Happy birthday ch18
https://x.com/marquettembb/status/2056389461735260431?s=46
Why are you such a douchephuck?
Happy birthday, Caedin! All of the best birthday wishes.
Quote from: withoutbias on May 18, 2026, 01:51:48 PMWhy are you such a douchephuck?
Just to annoy dorks like you and alarmingly stupid etc.
Happy birthday, Caedin
Word is he had to leave practice early today after getting winded blowing out the candles.
Quote from: panda on May 18, 2026, 02:25:09 PMJust to annoy dorks like you and alarmingly stupid etc.
Hilarious that you try to insult somebody else's intelligence with a sentence of "Just to annoy dorks like you and alarmingly stupid etc." You are what you think you're insulting, a$$clown.
Happy Birthday, Caedin!
Quote from: withoutbias on May 18, 2026, 03:09:07 PMHilarious that you try to insult somebody else's intelligence
So informal. Gross. Let's use
someone else instead.
Quote from: Jay Bee on May 18, 2026, 03:16:25 PMSo informal. Gross. Let's use someone else instead.
The two biggest dweebs on the internet thinking they're tough. Both have been stuffed in lockers their entire life, but at least one plays pickleball and orders meals they just need to heat up because they're in their 50s and single, and the other tells everyone he golfs with MU's biggest donor, but then cries when MU can't afford better basketball players.
The constant need to attack this young man has seriously jumped the shark. It was very easy to criticize Caedin's play last season. I did as much as anyone and he was infuriating to watch in countless situations. I probably yelled "get him off the floor" (emphatically) over 200 times at my TV. He may never be a D-1 player folks, I get it.
If we see the same garbage next year, and Shaka is playing him extended mins? Going full throttle is totally justified. However in the off season, to constantly villify him, is beyond ridiculous and inexcusable. As long as he's a member of the MU hoops team I'm going to support him and hope beyond hope he improves/can contribute in '26-27. Pummeling him day after day after day is an idiotic exercise. We have a 5, maybe he surprises us all as a serviceable back-up. If he can't, as most assume, fine. Next man up and move on. In the meantime, Happy Birthday Caedin.
Quote from: withoutbias on May 18, 2026, 03:33:57 PMThe two biggest dweebs on the internet thinking they're tough. Both have been stuffed in lockers their entire life, but at least one plays pickleball and orders meals they just need to heat up because they're in their 50s and single, and the other tells everyone he golfs with MU's biggest donor, but then cries when MU can't afford better basketball players.
To clarify - MU can afford the players. Coach doesn't want to disrupt his current roster.
also happy bday CH18
Quote from: panda on May 18, 2026, 03:44:40 PMTo clarify - MU can afford the players. Coach doesn't want to disrupt his current roster.
also happy bday CH18
Coach just added to the roster *checks date* two whole days ago.
STFU and get a new golf partner who actually knows something.
Quote from: withoutbias on May 18, 2026, 03:50:36 PMCoach just added to the roster *checks date* two whole days ago.
STFU and get a new golf partner who actually knows something.
A flier prep school kid hardly upsets the roster. CH18 firmly in the plans for next year and that was a driver for losing Sheek. #facts
happy bday ch18
Quote from: panda on May 18, 2026, 03:53:26 PMA flier prep school kid hardly upsets the roster. CH18 firmly in the plans for next year and that was a driver for losing Sheek. #facts
happy bday ch18
LOLOLOLOL if that's the news your golf partner is feeding you you are getting PLAYED. To nobody's (other than JB's) surprise.
Quote from: withoutbias on May 18, 2026, 03:57:09 PMLOLOLOLOL if that's the news your golf partner is feeding you you are getting PLAYED. To nobody's (other than JB's) surprise.
There is nothing but the obvious with that situation. Shaka gushing about CH18 all the way through the season despite obvious flaws, followed up by some bogus awards during the banquet and the "ode to Caedin" during the evening. Parham was frustrated at the beginning of the year and Sheek received no strong confirmation he would be in line for the playing time he expected. Between CH18, Fru and SLU coming out with a big offer, it was a quick and easy decision for him.
#happybdayCH18
Quote from: panda on May 18, 2026, 04:02:40 PMThere is nothing but the obvious with that situation. Shaka gushing about CH18 all the way through the season despite obvious flaws, followed up by some bogus awards during the banquet and the "ode to Caedin" during the evening. Parham was frustrated at the beginning of the year and Sheek received no strong confirmation he would be in line for the playing time he expected. Between CH18, Fru and SLU coming out with a big offer, it was a quick and easy decision for him.
#happybdayCH18
Not that anybody (besides JB) had any doubts, thank you for confirming you have zero inside knowledge.
Quote from: withoutbias on May 18, 2026, 04:04:13 PMNot that anybody (besides JB) had any doubts, thank you for confirming you have zero inside knowledge.
You don't need inside info to see the obvious with the CH18/Sheek/potential actual transfer incoming replacement big issue. Shaka all in on CH18 as a rotation piece next season #hookshots #happybday18
Quote from: panda on May 18, 2026, 04:36:59 PMYou don't need inside info to see the obvious with the CH18/Sheek/potential actual transfer incoming replacement big issue. Shaka all in on CH18 as a rotation piece next season #hookshots #happybday18
Agreed, we didn't land one of the top 5-30 (depending on where you look) overall players in the transfer portal this season, who happens to be a 5.
I hope none of my doctors are as dumb as you.
Quote from: withoutbias on May 18, 2026, 04:42:12 PMAgreed, we didn't land one of the top 5-30 (depending on where you look) overall players in the transfer portal this season, who happens to be a 5.
I hope none of my DENTISTS are as dumb as you.
Had to be done.
Quote from: withoutbias on May 18, 2026, 04:42:12 PMI hope none of my doctors are as dumb as you.
Not saying your psychiatrist is dumb, but clearly the meds aren't quite right for you.
Quote from: Jay Bee on May 18, 2026, 04:52:54 PMNot saying your psychiatrist is dumb, but clearly the meds aren't quite right for you.
Stick to making sexist or homophobic jokes, or correcting people's spelling or grammar. Or posting porn links.
Easy now guys, I hear he's working on his hook shot.
Quote from: withoutbias on May 18, 2026, 04:42:12 PMAgreed, we didn't land one of the top 5-30 (depending on where you look) overall players in the transfer portal this season, who happens to be a 5.
I hope none of my doctors are as dumb as you.
I'll simplify this for you. There is a pie. With that pie, you can slice it up a couple different ways.
The first pie is a pecan pie. It's complicated. Lots of ingredients. Not ideal for everyone at the party. One guy at the party has an odd, unexplainable obsession with pecan pie. Let's call the first piece fru, the second piece sheek, the third piece ch18 (happy birthday)and the fourth piece Royce.
The second pie is apple. It's beloved. Its straightforward. Some may say it's the perfect dessert. Universally loved and appreciated. The first piece is called fru. The second piece is called sheek. The third piece is called Royce.
Which pie do you think a player competing for time would select? You don't need any inside information for select this pie either. Just basic common sense.
#happybdaycaedin
Quote from: withoutbias on May 18, 2026, 03:33:57 PMThe two biggest dweebs on the internet thinking they're tough. Both have been stuffed in lockers their entire life, but at least one plays pickleball and orders meals they just need to heat up because they're in their 50s and single, and the other tells everyone he golfs with MU's biggest donor, but then cries when MU can't afford better basketball players.
On the other hand, you dont understand timezones.
Quote from: panda on May 18, 2026, 03:53:26 PMA flier prep school kid hardly upsets the roster. CH18 firmly in the plans for next year and that was a driver for losing Sheek. #facts
happy bday ch18
No, the driver for losing Sheek was a last-second over-the-top monetary offer.
If Sheek was worried about beating out Hamilton for minutes, perhaps we shouldn't be upset about losing him. Except common sense tells us that's not the case.
Quote from: panda on May 18, 2026, 05:25:38 PMI'll simplify this for you. There is a pie. With that pie, you can slice it up a couple different ways.
The first pie is a pecan pie. It's complicated. Lots of ingredients. Not ideal for everyone at the party. One guy at the party has an odd, unexplainable obsession with pecan pie. Let's call the first piece fru, the second piece sheek, the third piece ch18 (happy birthday)and the fourth piece Royce.
The second pie is apple. It's beloved. Its straightforward. Some may say it's the perfect dessert. Universally loved and appreciated. The first piece is called fru. The second piece is called sheek. The third piece is called Royce.
Which pie do you think a player competing for time would select? You don't need any inside information for select this pie either. Just basic common sense.
#happybdaycaedin
If someone had such an unexplainable obsession, why did Hamilton's minutes drop drastically as the season went on, as Wade's has explained in detail to you multiple times.
The one thing missing from your posts on this topic is common sense.
Quote from: panda on May 18, 2026, 03:44:40 PMTo clarify - MU can afford the players. Coach doesn't want to disrupt his current roster.
also happy bday CH18
To clarify, you are full of sh##.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on May 18, 2026, 05:41:32 PMIf someone had such an unexplainable obsession, why did Hamilton's minutes drop drastically as the season went on, as Wade's has explained in detail to you multiple times.
The one thing missing from your posts on this topic is common sense.
Why did he remain in the regular planned rotation in the first half all season?
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on May 18, 2026, 05:39:19 PMNo, the driver for losing Sheek was a last-second over-the-top monetary offer.
If Sheek was worried about beating out Hamilton for minutes, perhaps we shouldn't be upset about losing him. Except common sense tells us that's not the case.
So gullible. That wasn't the driver. Sheek was worried because he saw what we all saw last year and the odd obsession from the staff continued into the offseason.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on May 18, 2026, 05:39:19 PMNo, the driver for losing Sheek was a last-second over-the-top monetary offer.
If Sheek was worried about beating out Hamilton for minutes, perhaps we shouldn't be upset about losing him. Except common sense tells us that's not the case.
Putting it very plainly, unhappy people don't leave.
I agree he shouldn't be worried about ch18, but ask Royce how the first half of last season went. Completely unexplainable and only changed after the team hit rock bottom. Shaka continues to rave about ch18. No matter how talented sheek is, he has every right to be concerned with the depth chart regardless of his talent level.
Quote from: panda on May 18, 2026, 04:02:40 PMThere is nothing but the obvious with that situation. Shaka gushing about CH18 all the way through the season despite obvious flaws, followed up by some bogus awards during the banquet and the "ode to Caedin" during the evening. Parham was frustrated at the beginning of the year and Sheek received no strong confirmation he would be in line for the playing time he expected. Between CH18, Fru and SLU coming out with a big offer, it was a quick and easy decision for him.
#happybdayCH18
Panda, why the F are you dying on this hill? Even if what you're writing is correct as far as Sheek, I don't understand your obsession with this whole thing. And I'm saying this as someone that can belabor on things, holds grudges, and excels at gnawing and eviscerating those that bother me. What possible benefit is there to the MU program, Caedin, and Shaka for driveling over this for months and months and months and months? You have clearly lost focus, kindly move on. It would help yourself as well.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on May 18, 2026, 05:41:32 PMIf someone had such an unexplainable obsession, why did Hamilton's minutes drop drastically as the season went on, as Wade's has explained in detail to you multiple times.
The one thing missing from your posts on this topic is common sense.
If someone didn't have an unexplainable obsession, why is he coming back at all?
You insisted that this guy coming back for his fourth year, whose minutes dropped two years ago as well and then became a starter this past year, would be the 14-15th guy on the roster. That's not common sense either. Now it's very clear that won't be the case.
He's going to play, and that's a problem. Fru played 22 minutes a game last year. And playing guys out of position in his stead isn't going to help the team either, as we saw the past two years. Did you watch Royce try to defend the five this past year? Wasn't pretty.
Quote from: panda on May 18, 2026, 05:55:03 PMPutting it very plainly, unhappy people don't leave.
happy people who are offered 4x their current salary do.
Quote from: MuggsyB on May 18, 2026, 06:22:38 PMPanda, why the F are you dying on this hill? Even if what you're writing is correct as far as Sheek, I don't understand your obsession with this whole thing. And I'm saying this as someone that can belabor on things, holds grudges, and excels at gnawing and eviscerating those that bother me. What possible benefit is there to the MU program, Caedin, and Shaka for driveling over this for months and months and months and months? You have clearly lost focus, kindly move on. It would help yourself as well.
Die on the hill of our head coach making costly roster construction errors which puts a ceiling on rosters with talent?
If that's the case call me George Custer because I'm not leaving.
Quote from: Small Orange Soda on May 18, 2026, 06:29:25 PMIf someone didn't have an unexplainable obsession, why is he coming back at all?
You insisted that this guy coming back for his fourth year, whose minutes dropped two years ago as well and then became a starter this past year, would be the 14-15th guy on the roster. That's not common sense either. Now it's very clear that won't be the case.
He's going to play, and that's a problem. Fru played 22 minutes a game last year. And playing guys out of position in his stead isn't going to help the team either, as we saw the past two years. Did you watch Royce try to defend the five this past year? Wasn't pretty.
With the portal closed, this is more obvious than ever.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on May 18, 2026, 06:53:15 PMWith the portal closed, this is more obvious than ever.
Rumors on this board appear to be that they're looking for someone to reclassify.
Psychiatrists are going to refer to this as Hamilton Derangement Syndrome.
Anyway, Happy Birthday, Caedin.
Quote from: Small Orange Soda on May 18, 2026, 06:56:04 PMRumors on this board appear to be that they're looking for someone to reclassify.
That's another avenue, too.
Quote from: panda on May 18, 2026, 05:55:03 PMPutting it very plainly, unhappy people don't leave.
I agree he shouldn't be worried about ch18, but ask Royce how the first half of last season went. Completely unexplainable and only changed after the team hit rock bottom. Shaka continues to rave about ch18. No matter how talented sheek is, he has every right to be concerned with the depth chart regardless of his talent level.
Unhappy people don't leave? I'm going to assume you meant happy people. I'm also going to assume you're trolling, which is sad.
Happy people do leave when offered a significant increase in compensation, especially when it is potentially life changing money.
If Sheek was unhappy and/or afraid of competition and/or worried about favoritism from Shaka, why is it he didn't enter the portal until essentially the last second after receiving a big offer from a desperate SLU team?
Your entire premise falls apart from that simple question because it's nonsense.
Quote from: Small Orange Soda on May 18, 2026, 06:29:25 PMIf someone didn't have an unexplainable obsession, why is he coming back at all?
You insisted that this guy coming back for his fourth year, whose minutes dropped two years ago as well and then became a starter this past year, would be the 14-15th guy on the roster. That's not common sense either. Now it's very clear that won't be the case.
He's going to play, and that's a problem. Fru played 22 minutes a game last year. And playing guys out of position in his stead isn't going to help the team either, as we saw the past two years. Did you watch Royce try to defend the five this past year? Wasn't pretty.
He's back because he was expected to be the 3rd or 4th center in the roster. There's no way Shaka could have anticipated what happened with Sheek.
Shaka should add another big. If he doesn't, that's a mistake, IMO.
I'm trying to decide how good of a season Marquette would have to have to surpass the amount of entertainment I'd get from the clown show of Caedin haters continue to be mentally unstable because Caedin is playing regular minutes. Might need a Big East title and a Final Four run to make the entertainment from the basketball results be greater than the Scoop entertainment from the Caedin obsessed being put through that.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on May 18, 2026, 06:58:57 PMUnhappy people don't leave? I'm going to assume you meant happy people. I'm also going to assume you're trolling, which is sad.
Happy people do leave when offered a significant increase in compensation, especially when it is potentially life changing money.
If Sheek was unhappy and/or afraid of competition and/or worried about favoritism from Shaka, why is it he didn't enter the portal until essentially the last second after receiving a big offer from a desperate SLU team?
Your entire premise falls apart from that simple question because it's nonsense.
He's back because he was expected to be the 3rd or 4th center in the roster. There's no way Shaka could have anticipated what happened with Sheek.
Shaka should add another big. If he doesn't, that's a mistake, IMO.
He is trolling. It's all he has. He tried to pretend he was an insider. Nothing he's ever shared pans out, so now all he can do is troll.
Quote from: panda on May 18, 2026, 06:37:18 PMDie on the hill of our head coach making costly roster construction errors which puts a ceiling on rosters with talent?
If that's the case call me George Custer because I'm not leaving.
It's truly silly and of zero benefit to our team. Shaka is our head coach. If you want him to be axed after this year? Fine. Again, how does going on and on and on and on and on and on about this benefit our team? I'll even give you a multiple choice:
A) It doesn't
B) It doesn't
C) It doesn't
D) It doesn't
E) It doesn't
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on May 18, 2026, 06:58:57 PMUnhappy people don't leave? I'm going to assume you meant happy people. I'm also going to assume you're trolling, which is sad.
Happy people do leave when offered a significant increase in compensation, especially when it is potentially life changing money.
If Sheek was unhappy and/or afraid of competition and/or worried about favoritism from Shaka, why is it he didn't enter the portal until essentially the last second after receiving a big offer from a desperate SLU team?
Your entire premise falls apart from that simple question because it's nonsense.
He's back because he was expected to be the 3rd or 4th center in the roster. There's no way Shaka could have anticipated what happened with Sheek.
Shaka should add another big. If he doesn't, that's a mistake, IMO.
Shaka let sheek walk for Caedin to fly and people here are justifying it.
Quote from: wadesworld on May 18, 2026, 07:01:09 PMHe is trolling. It's all he has. He tried to pretend he was an insider. Nothing he's ever shared pans out, so now all he can do is troll.
I'm not pretending to be anything.
I do find it funny that some of you blindly follow some of the "inside info" that "connected" people here are fed from people within the athletic department. That is like blindly trusting a beat reporter an organization knows they can pump info to feed the narrative they want to convey.
I'm not knocking those passing along the info, but it should be viewed through a critical lense.
Quote from: MuggsyB on May 18, 2026, 07:10:22 PMIt's truly silly and of zero benefit to our team. Shaka is our head coach. If you want him to be axed after this year? Fine. Again, how does going on and on and on and on and on and on about this benefit our team? I'll even give you a multiple choice:
A) It doesn't
B) It doesn't
C) It doesn't
D) It doesn't
E) It doesn't
I'm posting about Marquette basketball and the roster makeup. Is that a relevant discussion point on a Marquette message board?
Quote from: panda on May 18, 2026, 07:13:27 PMI'm posting about Marquette basketball and the roster makeup. Is that a relevant discussion point on a Marquette message board?
I asked you a question, and you refused to answer it. And roster construction, after our roster is set and the portal is basically closed, is a futile and idiotic endeavor.
The roster isn't finalized and the portal isn't closed. Other than that, keep up the good work.
Quote from: tower912 on May 18, 2026, 07:19:06 PMThe roster isn't finalized and the portal isn't closed. Other than that, keep up the good work.
Do we have a spot?
Yes.
Quote from: tower912 on May 18, 2026, 07:25:27 PMYes.
Okay. I stand corrected.
Hopefully we find another baller.
lol
Quote from: panda on May 18, 2026, 07:11:15 PMShaka let sheek walk for Caedin
That's just plain silly, even for you.
Now, if you had said "Shaka let Sheek walk because Shaka wasn't willing to pay him 7 figures, which is significantly more than Caedin will receive," maybe you'd actually have been on to something.
Nm
Quote from: panda on May 18, 2026, 07:11:33 PMI'm not pretending to be anything.
I do find it funny that some of you blindly follow some of the "inside info" that "connected" people here are fed from people within the athletic department. That is like blindly trusting a beat reporter an organization knows they can pump info to feed the narrative they want to convey.
I'm not knocking those passing along the info, but it should be viewed through a critical lense.
Is Royce's dad unconnected or is he also being fed bad info?
Quote from: MuggsyB on May 18, 2026, 07:16:53 PMI asked you a question, and you refused to answer it. And roster construction, after our roster is set and the portal is basically closed, is a futile and idiotic endeavor.
Muggsy, the issue is for the third year in a row, Shaka is making a mistake at the center position. He was wrong to count on Caedin two years ago, he was wildly wrong to count on him (which was a major contributor to the worst MU season in 35 years), and he's wrong to count on him as a backup this year. It's just very frustrating that Shaka won't acknowledge that he's bad and shouldn't be playing again and again.
Quote from: MUDPT on May 18, 2026, 09:01:12 PMIs Royce's dad unconnected or is he also being fed bad info?
Surely he was on the phone while the $$$ and starting job were promised to Sheek! lol
Quote from: Small Orange Soda on May 18, 2026, 09:07:17 PMMuggsy, the issue is for the third year in a row, Shaka is making a mistake at the center position. He was wrong to count on Caedin two years ago, he was wildly wrong to count on him (which was a major contributor to the worst MU season in 35 years), and he's wrong to count on him as a backup this year. It's just very frustrating that Shaka won't acknowledge that he's bad and shouldn't be playing again and again.
He had his backup. He's not going to pay millions for a 10-13 mpg backup, nor should he.
Quote from: wadesworld on May 18, 2026, 09:17:04 PMHe had his backup. He's not going to pay millions for a 10-13 mpg backup, nor should he.
And in this current landscape, those things happen. Best to not keep bad players for a fourth year. These are the consequences.
But more to the point, you, me, VBMG, MU82, all agree he's not good. Shaka disagrees though. He's fine with him getting minutes. And he will.
Edit:
I don't agree with Jay and panda that Sheek left because he was scared of PT. But I do think any potential 5 is going to look at the roster and think, 'well, you already have a starter and two guys in their third and fourth year. Where do I fit in?'
Quote from: Small Orange Soda on May 18, 2026, 09:07:17 PMMuggsy, the issue is for the third year in a row, Shaka is making a mistake at the center position. He was wrong to count on Caedin two years ago, he was wildly wrong to count on him (which was a major contributor to the worst MU season in 35 years), and he's wrong to count on him as a backup this year. It's just very frustrating that Shaka won't acknowledge that he's bad and shouldn't be playing again and again.
He was wrong about Caedin, but didn't anticipate Sheek bolting. Ergo, these are the cards we've been dealt. I agree that the sample size doesn't give me a lot of confidence with Caedin but destroying the kid and Shaka, 5 months before the season, doesn't serve a purpose. Unless there's an automatic option to find a back-up 5 and dismiss Hamilton.
Quote from: MuggsyB on May 18, 2026, 09:25:53 PMHe was wrong about Caedin, but didn't anticipate Sheek bolting. Ergo, these are the cards we've been dealt. I agree that the sample size doesn't give me a lot of confidence with Caedin but destroying the kid and Shaka, 5 months before the season, doesn't serve a purpose. Unless there's an automatic option to find a back-up 5 and dismiss Hamilton.
He's not going to dismiss Hamilton. He thinks he's good. That's the issue. It's not the kid's fault, it's Shaka's.
Quote from: Small Orange Soda on May 18, 2026, 09:20:41 PMI don't agree with Jay and panda that Sheek left because he was scared of PT. But I do think any potential 5 is going to look at the roster and think, 'well, you already have a starter and two guys in their third and fourth year. Where do I fit in?'
Sounds like you do agree.
Quote from: Small Orange Soda on May 18, 2026, 09:30:28 PMHe's not going to dismiss Hamilton. He thinks he's good. That's the issue. It's not the kid's fault, it's Shaka's.
Why did his minutes decrease considerably and why was Fru added if Shaka thinks he's so good?
Quote from: Small Orange Soda on May 18, 2026, 09:30:28 PMHe's not going to dismiss Hamilton. He thinks he's good. That's the issue. It's not the kid's fault, it's Shaka's.
So is your take for Shaka to get rid of him without a back-up as of now?
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on May 18, 2026, 09:41:18 PMWhy did his minutes decrease considerably and why was Fru added if Shaka thinks he's so good?
Why did he get normal appearances in the first half and why will he again this coming season?
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on May 18, 2026, 09:41:18 PMWhy did his minutes decrease considerably and why was Fru added if Shaka thinks he's so good?
Why is it all or none? 10 minutes isn't nothing. That's the point. 82 is a hyperbolic person, and just tosses out the nonsensical idea that he's gonna play 35. He's not. But he's gonna play. You've watched him play the last two years. Tell me that's a non issue. And when Shaka realizes he's not up to snuff, tell me that having to play guys out of position isn't an issue either. Three years in a row we're going to have to deal with this.
Quote from: MuggsyB on May 18, 2026, 09:42:12 PMSo is your take for Shaka to get rid of him without a back-up as of now?
No. We're stuck with him. My point is that Shaka does think he's good. And he's not.
Quote from: Small Orange Soda on May 18, 2026, 09:46:34 PMWhy is it all or none? 10 minutes isn't nothing. That's the point. 82 is a hyperbolic person, and just tosses out the nonsensical idea that he's gonna play 35. He's not. But he's gonna play. You've watched him play the last two years. Tell me that's a non issue. And when Shaka realizes he's not up to snuff, tell me that having to play guys out of position isn't an issue either. Three years in a row we're going to have to deal with this.
I think it's a mistake if Shaka doesn't add another big.
I also don't think Hamilton potentially playing 5-8 MPG is going to sink our season.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on May 18, 2026, 09:49:20 PMI think it's a mistake if Shaka doesn't add another big.
I also don't think Hamilton potentially playing 5-8 MPG is going to sink our season.
If Shaka convinces a kid to reclassify, he's probably not going to play much, if any. Sheek was top 50, if I recall.
Quote from: Small Orange Soda on May 18, 2026, 09:47:49 PMNo. We're stuck with him. My point is that Shaka does think he's good. And he's not.
I would say he thought he was good and pivoted too late last season. There's a reason he played way less in Feb/March.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on May 18, 2026, 09:49:20 PMI think it's a mistake if Shaka doesn't add another big.
I also don't think Hamilton potentially playing 5-8 MPG is going to sink our season.
Is 5-8 mpg a negative for the team? (Not to mention causing Sheek to leave)
Quote from: Jay Bee on May 18, 2026, 09:56:52 PMIs 5-8 mpg a negative for the team? (Not to mention causing Sheek to leave)
Your schtick jumped the shark quite a while ago.
Caedin scared Sheek off just like Sean scared Nigel off. Hate to see it.
Quote from: MuggsyB on May 18, 2026, 09:56:11 PMI would say he thought he was good and pivoted too late last season. There's a reason he played way less in Feb/March.
He thought he was good the year before too. I'm not saying that Shaka is going to play him a bunch. But it's been clear the past two years that he doesn't belong at this level at all. 'Okay, he's only a 10 minute player' is still very incorrect. And I harp on it because we're entering the third year of this debate and several people won't admit that this is a real problem. Shaka has blown it on the center position his entire time here. He inherited Oso, but everyone since then has been a massive whiff. And now Sheek, the guy who looked pretty good, is gone. It's a fair concern.
Quote from: Small Orange Soda on May 18, 2026, 10:04:17 PMHe thought he was good the year before too. I'm not saying that Shaka is going to play him a bunch. But it's been clear the past two years that he doesn't belong at this level at all. 'Okay, he's only a 10 minute player' is still very incorrect. And I harp on it because we're entering the third year of this debate and several people won't admit that this is a real problem. Shaka has blown it on the center position his entire time here. He inherited Oso, but everyone since then has been a massive whiff. And now Sheek, the guy who looked pretty good, is gone. It's a fair concern.
He thought he would progress his Frosh to Soph season. It didn't happen.
Quote from: MuggsyB on May 18, 2026, 10:07:05 PMHe thought he would progress his Frosh to Soph season. It didn't happen.
Why? He beat out prep schools for his services. No one else wanted him or Clark. Does that sound like a sound business plan?
I don't recall ever seeing Sheek cheering on the team or laughing or smiling on the sideline. He was a lonesome 17 yo kid from St Louis who missed his mom. I doubt he bonded with anyone on the team. He wanted to go home. Mom got Schertz to offer some money to come be a Bilikin. He was happy for the first time in a year. He gowne.
IMHO.
Quote from: Small Orange Soda on May 18, 2026, 10:09:38 PMWhy? He beat out prep schools for his services. No one else wanted him or Clark. Does that sound like a sound business plan?
Again, he made a mistake. And perhaps doubled down. No one is arguing otherwise. The only concern we should have is where we to go from here. Reliving that he fked up, for months on end, accomplishes what exactly?
Quote from: MuggsyB on May 18, 2026, 10:16:36 PMAgain, he made a mistake. And perhaps doubled down. No one is arguing otherwise. The only concern we should have is where we to go from here. Reliving that he fked up, for months on end, accomplishes what exactly?
Well, he could also acknowledge his mistake and fix it.
That's the point. He doesn't think it's a mistake.
Quote from: augoman on May 18, 2026, 10:11:19 PMI don't recall ever seeing Sheek cheering on the team or laughing or smiling on the sideline. He was a lonesome 17 yo kid from St Louis who missed his mom. I doubt he bonded with anyone on the team. He wanted to go home. Mom got Schertz to offer some money to come be a Bilikin. He was happy for the first time in a year. He gowne.
IMHO.
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Quote from: Small Orange Soda on May 18, 2026, 10:18:16 PMWell, he could also acknowledge his mistake and fix it.
That's the point. He doesn't think it's a mistake.
I'm lost as to what you want him to do at this point. Admit his mistake and throw himself and Caedin under the bus?
Quote from: Small Orange Soda on May 18, 2026, 10:18:16 PMWell, he could also acknowledge his mistake and fix it.
That's the point. He doesn't think it's a mistake.
He did.
People go crazy for Shaka not playing the portal game, and now the portal game goes the other way for the first time under Shaka and people go crazy because of it.
This is the game. We're going to lose guys that are expected to play a role.
Quote from: augoman on May 18, 2026, 10:11:19 PMI don't recall ever seeing Sheek cheering on the team or laughing or smiling on the sideline. He was a lonesome 17 yo kid from St Louis who missed his mom. I doubt he bonded with anyone on the team. He wanted to go home. Mom got Schertz to offer some money to come be a Bilikin. He was happy for the first time in a year. He gowne.
IMHO.
He probably didn't bond with anyone because 18 ostracized him and kept him out of the circle of trust because he was worried about losing his minutes to him the following year!
Just kidding... happy bday to Cea dawg
I will say that I was talking to my 5 year old about Marquette getting a new player named Crowdis because he's already excited about and pretending to dunk like Fru and Minne, and explaining that he just came in to help give Nigel a rest because everyone needs a rest, and not everyone need to or can be a star but they are still important to a team...
Kid is a brain, but the athletic ability has a hint of lag so it's a pertinent lesson to learn.
He responded with "oh so he's like number 18 to Fru"
I almost lost it, thought it was pretty funny that he didn't remember Caedins name and called him number 18.
I said "well yea, kind of."
Then unprovoked he says "well baba he can get much better you know. He had a very good game against UConn in the best game of the year."
We went to that game. I didn't remember 'a very good game' but I looked it up and he played 18 mins with 4pts and 2 boards and if I recall he was very solid defensively and a net positive.
So, kudos to the kid for remembering and giving credit where it's due, and kudos to Caedin for a very good game in the best game of the year
Happy (B-Day), happy!
Put it in your heart where tomorrow shines!
So many Ruffled Feathers ⛳️ here on Scoop. Played it for $29.99 today. Greens really rolling. Plenty of hills to Dye on.
Quote from: MuggsyB on May 18, 2026, 10:25:09 PMI'm lost as to what you want him to do at this point. Admit his mistake and throw himself and Caedin under the bus?
At this point? Nothing to do. But it's three years of mistakes, plus even recruiting him in general. If someone effs up for five years (he should've never even recruited him), then yeah, the frustration builds.
Quote from: wadesworld on May 18, 2026, 10:28:47 PMHe did.
People go crazy for Shaka not playing the portal game, and now the portal game goes the other way for the first time under Shaka and people go crazy because of it.
This is the game. We're going to lose guys that are expected to play a role.
Agreed. So let's get good players, not ones that no other high major program want. People want to act like the past year was a total surprise. It wasn't. You need good players. 'We won't take transfers, but we'll find diamonds in the rough' is how you you go 12-20.
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Quote from: DoctorV on May 18, 2026, 10:29:36 PMHe probably didn't bond with anyone because 18 ostracized him and kept him out of the circle of trust because he was worried about losing his minutes to him the following year!
Just kidding... happy bday to Cea dawg
I will say that I was talking to my 5 year old about Marquette getting a new player named Crowdis because he's already excited about and pretending to dunk like Fru and Minne, and explaining that he just came in to help give Nigel a rest because everyone needs a rest, and not everyone need to or can be a star but they are still important to a team...
Kid is a brain, but the athletic ability has a hint of lag so it's a pertinent lesson to learn.
He responded with "oh so he's like number 18 to Fru"
I almost lost it, thought it was pretty funny that he didn't remember Caedins name and called him number 18.
I said "well yea, kind of."
Then unprovoked he says "well baba he can get much better you know. He had a very good game against UConn in the best game of the year."
We went to that game. I didn't remember 'a very good game' but I looked it up and he played 18 mins with 4pts and 2 boards and if I recall he was very solid defensively and a net positive.
So, kudos to the kid for remembering and giving credit where it's due, and kudos to Caedin for a very good game in the best game of the year
"Pretending to dunk"? Does your kid have the right shoes? Get him in the gym and working on his elevation, handles, and zoomability. Pronto!
Moral of the story is using a kid's birthday as an excuse to start a thread to rip on him is lame as phuck and says a lot about what a low life people on here are.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on May 18, 2026, 09:59:32 PMYour schtick jumped the shark quite a while ago.
There is an underlying point to it though (I'm not talking about the reason Sheek left). If he will be a net negative (we do not know for sure but past evidence points that way) why have him on the team at all? Cutting ties opens up a spot for another potential positive contributor.
He sees the negative impact with clarity.
The rest of us have polyanish magical thinking that he might be good next year. We are all hoping for the best, but know deep down that JayBee is right and that he is likely a failed experiment.
Ripping on the kid is bad. Calling it a loss is not. Hopefully Shaka and the polyanish here are correct.
Quote from: MuggsyB on May 18, 2026, 10:35:11 PMPre
"Pretending to dunk"? Does your kid have the right shoes? Get him in the gym and working on his elevation, handles, and zoomability. Pronto!
I think he's got the right shoes, but he's also got the wrong genes to dunk
Quote from: DoctorV on May 18, 2026, 11:12:29 PMI think he's got the right shoes, but he's also got the wrong genes to dunk
Well then have him pivot to the floater, finger roll, and dominant dimeing.
Beginning with the pocket pass before progressing to the no-look, zip cross-court rope, leading to the wide open corner trifecta.
Quote from: augoman on May 18, 2026, 10:11:19 PMI don't recall ever seeing Sheek cheering on the team or laughing or smiling on the sideline. He was a lonesome 17 yo kid from St Louis who missed his mom. I doubt he bonded with anyone on the team. He wanted to go home. Mom got Schertz to offer some money to come be a Bilikin. He was happy for the first time in a year. He gowne.
IMHO.
Quote from: Small Orange Soda on May 18, 2026, 10:34:56 PMAt this point? Nothing to do. But it's three years of mistakes, plus even recruiting him in general. If someone effs up for five years (he should've never even recruited him), then yeah, the frustration builds.
Agreed. So let's get good players, not ones that no other high major program want. People want to act like the past year was a total surprise. It wasn't. You need good players. 'We won't take transfers, but we'll find diamonds in the rough' is how you you go 12-20.
Right, and if you are fortunate, you find a diamond in the rough every 5 years or so.
Quote from: Small Orange Soda on May 18, 2026, 09:30:28 PMHe's not going to dismiss Hamilton. He thinks he's good. That's the issue. It's not the kid's fault, it's Shaka's.
Shaka doesn't think he's good, he actually said he improved dramatically over last summer and that did not happen. Maybe year 3 is the charm?
Quote from: Shooter McGavin on May 18, 2026, 11:04:15 PMThere is an underlying point to it though (I'm not talking about the reason Sheek left). If he will be a net negative (we do not know for sure but past evidence points that way) why have him on the team at all? Cutting ties opens up a spot for another potential positive contributor.
He sees the negative impact with clarity.
The rest of us have polyanish magical thinking that he might be good next year. We are all hoping for the best, but know deep down that JayBee is right and that he is likely a failed experiment.
Ripping on the kid is bad. Calling it a loss is not. Hopefully Shaka and the polyanish here are correct.
I disagree that there's an underlying point.
Do you think all 15 players on a roster need to contribute during games for a team to be successful?
Do you think some kids can contribute to the group in other ways?
Kam Jones, an NBA player, emphatically defended the kid on social media during last season. That says something about Kam and Hamilton.
The problem was not Hamilton on the roster as the #3/#4 center. Shaka landed a high-caliber big in the portal and had a top-75 redshirt big who got sniped at the last second. You can't blame Shaka for that.
Hamilton already saw his minutes drop significantly with no Fru or Sheek last season. What do you think was going to happen this season?
You can blame Shaka if he doesn't add another big before the season. That would be a mistake, IMO.
The collective HDS by a portion of this board should be studied.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on May 19, 2026, 07:31:21 AMDo you think all 15 players on a roster need to contribute during games for a team to be successful?
The problem was not Hamilton on the roster as the #3/#4 center. Shaka landed a high-caliber big in the portal and had a top-75 redshirt big who got sniped at the last second. You can't blame Shaka for that.
Hamilton already saw his minutes drop significantly with no Fru or Sheek last season. What do you think was going to happen this season?
Hey dude, crown him because Kam made a quick post on X about him if that's your thing, but you're off on everything above. We're not talking about 18 being a great practice player and just getting mop up minutes. We've seen SS's odd thinking with him and there are reasons to believe it will continue. Regular rotation, making appearances in the first half each game. You can join the club of, "well, 5 to 8 minutes per game isn't going to hurt us!", but I'm not.
Quote from: Jay Bee on May 19, 2026, 07:39:03 AMHey dude, crown him because Kam made a quick post on X about him if that's your thing, but you're off on everything above. We're not talking about 18 being a great practice player and just getting mop up minutes. We've seen SS's odd thinking with him and there are reasons to believe it will continue. Regular rotation, making appearances in the first half each game. You can join the club of, "well, 5 to 8 minutes per game isn't going to hurt us!", but I'm not.
I'm not. I expect him to play 18-20 minutes a game at the minimum. There's no reason to believe otherwise.
Caedin may have come to Marquette for the school and not the coach but the coach hasn't shown any inclination to change patterns. Pencil him in for 18-20 minutes.
Could be more if Fru leaves before the season. Don't think that can't happen once he sees Caedin will get a lot of the minutes he thought he'd get.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on May 19, 2026, 07:31:21 AMI disagree that there's an underlying point.
Do you think all 15 players on a roster need to contribute during games for a team to be successful?
Do you think some kids can contribute to the group in other ways?
Kam Jones, an NBA player, emphatically defended the kid on social media during last season. That says something about Kam and Hamilton.
The problem was not Hamilton on the roster as the #3/#4 center. Shaka landed a high-caliber big in the portal and had a top-75 redshirt big who got sniped at the last second. You can't blame Shaka for that.
Hamilton already saw his minutes drop significantly with no Fru or Sheek last season. What do you think was going to happen this season?
You can blame Shaka if he doesn't add another big before the season. That would be a mistake, IMO.
The collective HDS by a portion of this board should be studied.
Games can be won and lost in the amount of minutes/possessions he will play in as the back up 5 next year. He's not a capable contributor at this level and never will be. That is a net negative for a team that will be fighting for a tournament spot.
Kam jones is a ride or die guy. Much respect to him but shouldn't be a feather in your cap as a discussion point.
https://x.com/csgkam/status/1364601574908178433?s=46
Quote from: panda on May 19, 2026, 07:55:59 AMGames can be won and lost in the amount of minutes/possessions he will play in as the back up 5 next year. He's not a capable contributor at this level and never will be. That is a net negative for a team that will be fighting for a tournament spot.
Kam jones is a ride or die guy. Much respect to him but shouldn't be a feather in your cap as a discussion point.
https://x.com/csgkam/status/1364601574908178433?s=46
This was posted before Wojo even left Marquette and while Kam was still in high school.
Quote from: The Sultan on May 19, 2026, 08:05:07 AMThis was posted before Wojo even left Marquette and while Kam was still in high school.
Exactly - that further reinforces the point, duuuuhhhhh.
Quote from: Jay Bee on May 19, 2026, 08:22:38 AMExactly - that further reinforces the point, duuuuhhhhh.
Doesn't mean much either if you know Kam chose Marquette the school and not the coach.
Quote from: Small Orange Soda on May 18, 2026, 10:09:38 PMWhy? He beat out prep schools for his services. No one else wanted him or Clark. Does that sound like a sound business plan?
Hamilton had offers from Drexel & Northeastern
Clark we genuinely were his only listed offer on 247
Quote from: Jay Bee on May 19, 2026, 07:39:03 AMHey dude, crown him because Kam made a quick post on X about him if that's your thing, but you're off on everything above. We're not talking about 18 being a great practice player and just getting mop up minutes. We've seen SS's odd thinking with him and there are reasons to believe it will continue. Regular rotation, making appearances in the first half each game. You can join the club of, "well, 5 to 8 minutes per game isn't going to hurt us!", but I'm not.
No one has crowned anyone. You're either off your meds or need to get on some.
Shaka thinks 18 is so "good" that he reduced 18's PT by 50% the second half of last season and then brought in a million-dollar big to start over 18.
But as others say, that's not even the point. Shaka played 18 18 mpg last November and December (vs. 9 mpg in January, February and March), which obviously means that Shaka will play 18 18 mpg this coming November and December. duuuuhhhhh! Because Shaka loves 18, loves symmetry, loves the idea of giving 18 18 mpg, and thinks 18 is "good."
Unless Shaka really doubles down and plays 18 36 mpg! I agree with Unk that folks shouldn't be surprised if Fru sees the writing on the wall and leaves.
After all, Sheek didn't leave because a desperate Schertz threw 7 figures at a backup big who hasn't played a second of D1 ball or because he wanted to go back to his hometown. No, he left because he knew 18 was about to get 36 mpg.
That's just science.
Quote from: The Sultan on May 19, 2026, 08:05:07 AMThis was posted before Wojo even left Marquette and while Kam was still in high school.
Don't use common sense with Panda - it has no impact.
Quote from: MU82 on May 19, 2026, 10:18:52 AMShaka thinks 18 is so "good" that he reduced 18's PT by 50% the second half of last season and then brought in a million-dollar big to start over 18.
But as others say, that's not even the point. Shaka played 18 18 mpg last November and December (vs. 9 mpg in January, February and March), which obviously means that Shaka will play 18 18 mpg this coming November and December. duuuuhhhhh! Because Shaka loves 18, loves symmetry, loves the idea of giving 18 18 mpg, and thinks 18 is "good."
Unless Shaka really doubles down and plays 18 36 mpg! I agree with Unk that folks shouldn't be surprised if Fru sees the writing on the wall and leaves.
After all, Sheek didn't leave because a desperate Schertz threw 7 figures at a backup big who hasn't played a second of D1 ball or because he wanted to go back to his hometown. No, he left because he knew 18 was about to get 36 mpg.
That's just science.
Nobody is saying any of that nonsense. Par for the course when you're wrong though, just toss out some hyperbole and call it a day.
Quote from: The Sultan on May 19, 2026, 08:05:07 AMThis was posted before Wojo even left Marquette and while Kam was still in high school.
And? It shows kam is loyal to his guys regardless of actual core competency.
The original post from alarmingly stupid is highly flawed (per usual).
Quote from: panda on May 19, 2026, 12:10:49 PMAnd? It shows kam is loyal to his guys regardless of actual core competency.
He was loyal via tweet to the guy who recruited him. When that guy he was "loyal" to was fired, he came here anyway.
It's a terrible example.
Quote from: The Sultan on May 19, 2026, 12:20:57 PMHe was loyal via tweet to the guy who recruited him. When that guy he was "loyal" to was fired, he came here anyway.
It's a terrible example.
C'mon, you're not that dense, bub.
Quote from: The Sultan on May 19, 2026, 12:20:57 PMHe was loyal via tweet to the guy who recruited him. When that guy he was "loyal" to was fired, he came here anyway.
It's a terrible example.
Loyal to his coach and loyal to his teammate. Open your mind sulty - don't fall into the same trap as one of the stupidest people who has ever graced this board already did.
You're far better than that.
Quote from: Small Orange Soda on May 19, 2026, 10:50:41 AMNobody is saying any of that nonsense. Par for the course when you're wrong though, just toss out some hyperbole and call it a day.
Sadly, some folks here are saying only slightly less hyperbolic versions of most of that.