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Never a doubt
Welcome, Sananda. Good to see Shaka reap the Fru-its of his labor.
Can't believe that Shaka had to settle for his first choice
Terrible news for Willie. Just hope Marquette understands the new NIL rules.
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Minutes dried up for our most experienced center. May want to explore other opportunities, aina
Big time get. Thought other schools who missed on their top targets would start sniffing around soon.
Finally. Good news. Would have been really deflating had he gone elsewhere given all the smoke.
Does this mean somebody is going into the portal?
Quote from: BCHoopster on April 15, 2026, 04:31:41 PMDoes this mean somebody is going into the portal?
Doesn't have to, but it could.
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Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 15, 2026, 04:08:01 PMTerrible news for Willie. Just hope Marquette understands the new NIL rules.
I just hope Fru understands taxes.
Oh by the way, pretty good for a "poverty program." 🙄🙄🙄
Quote from: BCHoopster on April 15, 2026, 04:31:41 PMDoes this mean somebody is going into the portal?
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No
Wish we would get someone whose player comp is somebody other than Matt Heldt, but I guess I can live with it, being a poverty program and all.
This is great news on a number of fronts!
This explains our buy game in Ann Arbor. Have to be able to pay for top talent.
Big time
Can't wait for the first time a TV announcer says:
That's not "booo" you're hearing, it's "FRUUUUUUUUU!"
Nice get. Now please reimplement the pick and roll that was utilized with Kur and Oso.
Great pick up. Glad Shaka was able to land Fru.
KAFRUCKINGBOOM!!!!!!!!! 🔨 🔨
LFG!!!!
I believe this is just the beginning Scoopers!!!
Mammoth pick-up for MU!!!!
Quote from: Johnny B on April 15, 2026, 04:31:20 PMFinally. Good news. Would have been really deflating had he gone elsewhere given all the smoke.
Yes. I would have been seeing in-fru-red. :)
Quote from: wadesworld on April 15, 2026, 04:47:09 PMWish we would get someone whose player comp is somebody other than Matt Heldt, but I guess I can live with it, being a poverty program and all.
No no. He's just Heldt's "archetype." 🤪🤪🤪
Quote from: The Sultan on April 15, 2026, 04:39:53 PMI just hope Fru understands taxes.
Okay, that one made me laugh
Quote from: The Sultan on April 15, 2026, 04:40:32 PMOh by the way, pretty good for a "poverty program." 🙄🙄🙄
Ohhhhh, we're going to need another get or two to get out of poverty franchise.
Great to see Shaka and staff land a high priority target at a premium position - and one we needed to upgrade. And thanks to all donors/alums who have contributed to our portal recruiting funds!
Quote from: #UnleashThePortal on April 15, 2026, 05:40:29 PMOhhhhh, we're going to need another get or two to get out of poverty franchise.
Attaboy.
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https://painttouches.com/2026/04/13/how-does-transfer-sananda-fru-fit-into-marquette/
Quote from: #UnleashThePortal on April 15, 2026, 05:40:29 PMOhhhhh, we're going to need another get or two to get out of poverty franchise.
Ahhh...the goalposts, they are a-shiftin'!!!
Quote from: Small Orange Soda on April 15, 2026, 05:03:00 PMNice get. Now please reimplement the pick and roll that was utilized with Kur and Oso.
That's why Fru was the top target
Quote from: #UnleashThePortal on April 15, 2026, 05:40:29 PMOhhhhh, we're going to need another get or two to get out of poverty franchise.
LOL
Take it with a grain of salt along with a lot more movement in the portal, but the T Rank rostercast feature puts MU at #20 after this move.
https://barttorvik.com/rostercast.php
Quote from: The Sultan on April 15, 2026, 05:46:00 PMAhhh...the goalposts, they are a-shiftin'!!!
If you think we're going somewhere with 1 signing....
Quote from: #UnleashThePortal on April 15, 2026, 06:53:56 PMIf you think we're going somewhere with 1 signing....
This is what you said...
Quote from: #UnleashThePortal on April 08, 2026, 01:44:12 PMEverything done so far in the face of the transfer portal seems to suggest Marquette is a poverty program.
And even though MANY people were saying they would be competitive in the transfer market, you kept insisting otherwise.
And now that Marquette has landed a guy who they apparently targetted early and paid a great deal for, do you admit you were wrong?
Nope. You dishonestly shift the goalposts.
Poverty poster.
If only there was an island of misfit toys for some of our most annoying postets to go to..........sigh......
Quote from: MuMark on April 15, 2026, 07:08:52 PMIf only there was an island of misfit toys for some of our most annoying postets to go to..........sigh......
I thought we were already on that island
Quote from: MuMark on April 15, 2026, 07:08:52 PMIf only there was an island of misfit toys for some of our most annoying postets to go to..........sigh......
https://247sports.com/college/marquette/board/mens-hoops-104085/
Quote from: #UnleashThePortal on April 15, 2026, 06:53:56 PMIf you think we're going somewhere with 1 signing....
I think it's quite possible this acquisition raises Marquette's bar considerably. The ability to play with James could be quite dynamic and open things for the rest of the offense they haven't had since Oso graduated.
I'm with Tower. If they add guard depth, they should turn things around quickly. Parham was quite good in Big East play.
I love NJ and AS. I am not so naive as to think they can play 40 minutes every game. Nor do I think that Nash, EJ, or Egbuono are the answer at back up PG. (Admittedly, awesome if they were)
Ergo, next up has to be guards.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 15, 2026, 07:17:58 PMI think it's quite possible this acquisition raises Marquette's bar considerably. The ability to play with James could be quite dynamic and open things for the rest of the offense they haven't had since Oso graduated.
I'm with Tower. If they add guard depth, they should turn things around quickly. Parham was quite good in Big East play.
Fru changes everything. And I mean everything. Plus MU will add at least one of the aforementioned perimeter players.
MU is back.
The BEast is also back. Massive gets for the entire conference.
Quote from: tower912 on April 15, 2026, 07:21:49 PMI love NJ and AS. I am not so naive as to think they can play 40 minutes every game. Nor do I think that Nash, EJ, or Egbuono are the answer at back up PG. (Admittedly, awesome if they were)
Ergo, next up has to be guards.
I don't think they get both, but Riley and Minessale are ideal additions. Riley seems like a long shot based on I'd think he'd want to be the primary ball handler and that isn't Marquette.
Quote from: The Sultan on April 15, 2026, 07:05:43 PMThis is what you said...
And even though MANY people were saying they would be competitive in the transfer market, you kept insisting otherwise.
And now that Marquette has landed a guy who they apparently targetted early and paid a great deal for, do you admit you were wrong?
Nope. You dishonestly shift the goalposts.
Poverty poster.
If you actually take a look at EXACTLY what I said....
I very clearly stated it has yet to be seen if marquette had any money to spend or not. Every action they had taken to that point showed they did not.
Today is a STEP in the correct direction. Let's see how much Marquette has in the bank.
But it's totally like you to provide false information on what people actually say.
Quote from: #UnleashThePortal on April 15, 2026, 07:31:32 PMBut it's totally like you to provide false information on what people actually say.
I quoted you.
Is it possible for him to play two years for us or do we just have him for one?
Nice get for Shaka and the team! I admit I was skeptical that it would get done but elated we finally have someone respectable in the 5 spot.
Quote from: The Sultan on April 15, 2026, 07:14:11 PMhttps://247sports.com/college/marquette/board/mens-hoops-104085/
Actually I was thinking more like a place with no internet access..........
https://share.google/RsqEEP9xdEDsJNqvE
Fruck yes. Awesome pull Shaka!
Quote from: Superfan on April 15, 2026, 07:46:46 PMIs it possible for him to play two years for us or do we just have him for one?
Only if Shaka adopts him.
Quote from: MuMark on April 15, 2026, 07:08:52 PMIf only there was an island of misfit toys for some of our most annoying postets to go to..........sigh......
This place would be way better if everyone had the same opinion.
Quote from: Pakuni on April 15, 2026, 08:03:26 PMThis place would be way better if everyone had the same opinion.
yeah....thats what bothers me......that everyone doesn't agree with me......lol
You figured it out!
Quote from: Pakuni on April 15, 2026, 08:03:26 PMThis place would be way better if everyone had the same opinion.
This place would be way better if everyone held himself or herself accountable.
For example, if Shaka didn't land a highly regarded big in the portal, I'd have admitted I was wrong for having thought he would do so.
Thankfully, at least a few Scoop-tics are admitting they were wrong for believing Shaka couldn't or wouldn't do so.
Quote from: The Sultan on April 15, 2026, 07:32:46 PMI quoted you.
"Everything done so far in the face of the transfer portal seems to suggest Marquette is a poverty program."
Which is completely true. Until STEP 1 was done today. They have a ways to go still.
But you'll ignore actual words and meanings for your stories as you always do =)
Quote from: MU82 on April 15, 2026, 08:12:33 PMThis place would be way better if everyone held himself or herself accountable.
For example, if Shaka didn't land a highly regarded big in the portal, I'd have admitted I was wrong for having thought he would do so.
Thankfully, at least a few Scoop-tics are admitting they were wrong for believing Shaka couldn't or wouldn't do so.
Nobody should expect everyone to be perfect (obviously, Sultan is excluded), but just own it and move on. This guy still owns the fact that I fully supported the Wojo extension. Not my best take.
Quote from: MuMark on April 15, 2026, 08:06:26 PMyeah....thats what bothers me......that everyone doesn't agree with me......lol
You figured it out!
Just because you think some posters are misfits who should go away doesn't mean you're bothered by what they have to say.
Got it.
I also find some posters/opinions annoying. And I think it's great they they're here exchanging their thoughts and ideas about the program that (I think) we all love and support.
Quote from: #UnleashThePortal on April 15, 2026, 08:16:42 PM"Everything done so far in the face of the transfer portal seems to suggest Marquette is a poverty program."
Which is completely true. Until STEP 1 was done today.
It absolutely was not true. Marquette was never acting like a "poverty program." First, Marquette resigned their top three returnees. Second, you have no idea what they were doing behind the scenes. Just because you don't know what is going on, doesn't mean nothing is going on.
Seriously, try being less of a clown.
This is great news. It once again proves that Marquette has some very rich, very passionate donors who are willing to step up when the program needs it most. They're the ones who set millions of dollars on fire to get rid of Wojo, I'm assuming they strong-armed Broeker and Shaka into making that portal announcement before the Xavier game back in February, and I think their dollars will help us land some big fish going forward. You love to see it.
Quote from: #UnleashThePortal on April 15, 2026, 08:16:42 PM"Everything done so far in the face of the transfer portal seems to suggest Marquette is a poverty program."
Which is completely true. Until STEP 1 was done today. They have a ways to go still.
But you'll ignore actual words and meanings for your stories as you always do =)
Are you and Farley the same person?
Quote from: #UnleashThePortal on April 15, 2026, 07:31:32 PMIf you actually take a look at EXACTLY what I said....
I very clearly stated it has yet to be seen if marquette had any money to spend or not. Every action they had taken to that point showed they did not.
Today is a STEP in the correct direction. Let's see how much Marquette has in the bank.
But it's totally like you to provide false information on what people actually say.
Quote from: The Sultan on April 15, 2026, 08:24:18 PMIt absolutely was not true. Marquette was never acting like a "poverty program." First, Marquette resigned their top three returnees. Second, you have no idea what they were doing behind the scenes. Just because you don't know what is going on, doesn't mean nothing is going on.
Seriously, try being less of a clown.
Lol,
A) come off it, you were thinking it too. I bet you were in agony over if Fru would sign or not.
B) There's a single player on the roster that would have received national attention if they went to the portal, lets calm down with the whole signing Nigel back was a massive win. Who knows, he may very well already be on a 3 year contract.
C) a single solitary great signing does not make a 12-20 team close to national contenders. Stop pretending it does.
Quote from: MU82 on April 15, 2026, 08:12:33 PMThis place would be way better if everyone held himself or herself accountable.
For example, if Shaka didn't land a highly regarded big in the portal, I'd have admitted I was wrong for having thought he would do so.
Thankfully, at least a few Scoop-tics are admitting they were wrong for believing Shaka couldn't or wouldn't do so.
Accountable for/to what? It's just a message board where we idiots anonymously share information and various hot takes about a college basketball team. Some of which will be spectacularly wrong.
Why do some people get giddy satisfaction over calling out fellow MU fans' mistaken opinions? We all have bad takes.
Maybe we should form a truth commission where posters will be called upon to account for their grave mistakes. We'll start with those who thought RGV was a good idea.
Quote from: Biggie Clausen on April 15, 2026, 08:26:06 PMThis is great news. It once again proves that Marquette has some very rich, very passionate donors who are willing to step up when the program needs it most. They're the ones who set millions of dollars on fire to get rid of Wojo, I'm assuming they strong-armed Broeker and Shaka into making that portal announcement before the Xavier game back in February, and I think their dollars will help us land some big fish going forward. You love to see it.
We get 1 absolutely stud, or 2 decent players.. I'll agree with ya.
Quote from: Pakuni on April 15, 2026, 08:30:16 PMAccountable for/to what? It's just a message board where we idiots anonymously share information and various hot takes about a college basketball team. Some of which will be spectacularly wrong.
Why do some people get giddy satisfaction over calling out fellow MU fans' mistaken opinions? We all have bad takes.
Maybe we should form a truth commission where posters will be called upon to account for their grave mistakes. We'll start with those who thought RGV was a good idea.
Literally 1/2 of non scoop conformist posts are done by troll accounts. Scoop is just easy rage bait.
Quote from: #UnleashThePortal on April 15, 2026, 08:16:42 PM"Everything done so far in the face of the transfer portal seems to suggest Marquette is a poverty program."
Which is completely true. Until STEP 1 was done today. They have a ways to go still.
But you'll ignore actual words and meanings for your stories as you always do =)
::)
Quote from: #UnleashThePortal on April 15, 2026, 08:29:57 PMLol,
A) come off it, you were thinking it too. I bet you were in agony over if Fru would sign or not.
B) There's a single player on the roster that would have received national attention if they went to the portal, lets calm down with the whole signing Nigel back was a massive win. Who knows, he may very well already be on a 3 year contract.
C) a single solitary great signing does not make a 12-20 team close to national contenders. Stop pretending it does.
::)
Quote from: #UnleashThePortal on April 15, 2026, 08:29:57 PMLol,
A) come off it, you were thinking it too. I bet you were in agony over if Fru would sign or not.
B) There's a single player on the roster that would have received national attention if they went to the portal, lets calm down with the whole signing Nigel back was a massive win. Who knows, he may very well already be on a 3 year contract.
C) a single solitary great signing does not make a 12-20 team close to national contenders. Stop pretending it does.
A. Nope. Regardless, if he went elsewhere, it wouldn't be an indication of being a "poverty program."
B. Yes retaining the BE freshman of the year is a big deal.
C. Shifting goalposts continues...
Quote from: Pakuni on April 15, 2026, 08:22:25 PMJust because you think some posters are misfits who should go away doesn't mean you're bothered by what they have to say.
Got it.
I also find some posters/opinions annoying. And I think it's great they they're here exchanging their thoughts and ideas about the program that (I think) we all love and support.
Just to be clear......
1 it was a joke.......
2 yes I believe the board would be better off without the trolls.......
3 the vast majority of posters add something to the discourse......I do not believe everyone does.
4 You and I have sparred on occasion and I think you are an excellent poster.
What impact do you think Fru will have on Royce on both ends of the floor? I know I'm biased, but I really think RP is primed to have a huge Jr. season.
More importantly, the pick and roll will be back in the offense, which should open up the wings so Adrian and Ross should get more open shots. Plus if Sheek can hit an outside shot, they will have something, called the biggest front line in years, lots of possibilities
Adrian and Royce, bad eyes
Watching some Fru highlights, he moves similar to Oso without the ball. But better hands than Oso. Brown at Louisville played well with Fru on the pick n roll and lobs. Nigel, your running mate is here! Could be a big year
Quote from: MUeng on April 15, 2026, 09:44:22 PMWatching some Fru highlights, he moves similar to Oso without the ball. But better hands than Oso. Brown at Louisville played well with Fru on the pick n roll and lobs. Nigel, your running mate is here! Could be a big year
I love the lob threat and Fru's ability to O-Reb. Look out if MU gets another perimeter scorer.
Quote from: The Sultan on April 15, 2026, 08:56:30 PMA. Nope. Regardless, if he went elsewhere, it wouldn't be an indication of being a "poverty program."
B. Yes retaining the BE freshman of the year is a big deal.
C. Shifting goalposts continues...
Oh I'm glad to see were in the same direction here.
Hopefully Marquette will follow up with another big signing so they'll compete. I'm sure youre hoping for the same.
Weird immature take from ya though.
Quote from: Biggie Clausen on April 15, 2026, 08:26:06 PMI'm assuming they strong-armed Broeker and Shaka into making that portal announcement before the Xavier game back in February,
No lol.
Quote from: Pakuni on April 15, 2026, 08:30:16 PMAccountable for/to what? It's just a message board where we idiots anonymously share information and various hot takes about a college basketball team. Some of which will be spectacularly wrong.
Why do some people get giddy satisfaction over calling out fellow MU fans' mistaken opinions? We all have bad takes.
Maybe we should form a truth commission where posters will be called upon to account for their grave mistakes. We'll start with those who thought RGV was a good idea.
This seems reasonable.
But if turns out not to have been reasonable, I'll admit I was wrong about it. 8-)
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 15, 2026, 07:17:58 PMI think it's quite possible this acquisition raises Marquette's bar considerably. The ability to play with James could be quite dynamic and open things for the rest of the offense they haven't had since Oso graduated.
I'm with Tower. If they add guard depth, they should turn things around quickly. Parham was quite good in Big East play.
This. I'm also in agreement with Tower regarding guard depth but getting a center who can play pick and roll is huge. The ceiling for this team has gotten instantly higher. Still need a one or two guards. I trust Shaka will get it done.
A huge get by any standard. Well done to Shaka.
Isn't our priority now a 3 (is that Minnesale - is that an upgrade over DO there?) and then a backup PG? I'd expect Nigel to be near max minutes next year, so backup PG seems less important except as foul insurance. A rotation of Nigel, AS, Minnesale, RP, Fru with DO backing 3/4, Sheek/Josh/Cadin? backing 4/5, MP backing 2/3, Frosh/transfer backing 1/2 seems like it should be in the tournament.
Quote from: 1SE on April 16, 2026, 12:42:51 AMA huge get by any standard. Well done to Shaka.
Isn't our priority now a 3 (is that Minnesale - is that an upgrade over DO there?) and then a backup PG? I'd expect Nigel to be near max minutes next year, so backup PG seems less important except as foul insurance. A rotation of Nigel, AS, Minnesale, RP, Fru with DO backing 3/4, Sheek/Josh/Cadin? backing 4/5, MP backing 2/3, Frosh/transfer backing 1/2 seems like it should be in the tournament.
You don't really need a 3. You can play three guard lineups to great success. I don't think a backup PG makes much sense. What does make sense is a combo guard who could play next to James or slide over to the 1 when James needs a breather. Riley or Minessale could fill that role.
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 16, 2026, 01:01:02 AMYou don't really need a 3. You can play three guard lineups to great success. I don't think a backup PG makes much sense. What does make sense is a combo guard who could play next to James or slide over to the 1 when James needs a breather. Riley or Minessale could fill that role.
Sorry - who is Riley? Must have missed that chatter.
But basically something like the above? We're still looking for one more starter and then a gaurd backup?
Quote from: 1SE on April 16, 2026, 01:24:05 AMSorry - who is Riley? Must have missed that chatter.
Tylen Riley from Tulsa is scheduled to visit on Saturday.
Quote from: 1SE on April 16, 2026, 01:24:05 AMBut basically something like the above? We're still looking for one more starter and then a gaurd backup?
I think that's what most scoopers are hoping for. I'm not sure if we take more than 2 transfers
Quote from: 1SE on April 16, 2026, 12:42:51 AMA huge get by any standard. Well done to Shaka.
Isn't our priority now a 3 (is that Minnesale - is that an upgrade over DO there?) and then a backup PG? I'd expect Nigel to be near max minutes next year, so backup PG seems less important except as foul insurance. A rotation of Nigel, AS, Minnesale, RP, Fru with DO backing 3/4, Sheek/Josh/Cadin? backing 4/5, MP backing 2/3, Frosh/transfer backing 1/2 seems like it should be in the tournament.
DO, MP, Nash, Ian, EJ, Egbuono. That is six potential 3s already. AS, NJ. That is the guard room. Math.
Quote from: Pakuni on April 15, 2026, 08:30:16 PMAccountable for/to what? It's just a message board where we idiots anonymously share information and various hot takes about a college basketball team. Some of which will be spectacularly wrong.
Why do some people get giddy satisfaction over calling out fellow MU fans' mistaken opinions? We all have bad takes.
Maybe we should form a truth commission where posters will be called upon to account for their grave mistakes. We'll start with those who thought RGV was a good idea.
We are idiots. And it is a message board. And all opinions get challenged, just as you are challenging other opinions in your post. Because it is mostly anonymous and we have little else to go on, we judge each other every day by every post. We recognize patterns from each other and can frequently guess the poster by content, without checking the name.
It is my personal expectation that if I am willing to post it, I am willing to have it disagreed with. It is supposed to spark and further conversations.
And therefore, I think it is important to challenge takes I view as wrong. Just as mine are challenged.
Quote from: Pakuni on April 15, 2026, 08:22:25 PMJust because you think some posters are misfits who should go away doesn't mean you're bothered by what they have to say.
Got it.
I also find some posters/opinions annoying. And I think it's great they they're here exchanging their thoughts and ideas about the program that (I think) we all love and support.
Not sure who likes to argue over nothing more, you or Sultan. ;D
Quote from: Hards Alumni on April 16, 2026, 06:40:16 AMNot sure who likes to argue over nothing more, you or Sultan. ;D
I will point out that I'm sitting this one out...
Quote from: The Sultan on April 16, 2026, 06:42:32 AMI will point out that I'm sitting this one out...
Ah, so you DO want to argue about this though. :P
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 16, 2026, 01:01:02 AMYou don't really need a 3. You can play three guard lineups to great success. I don't think a backup PG makes much sense. What does make sense is a combo guard who could play next to James or slide over to the 1 when James needs a breather. Riley or Minessale could fill that role.
Either/Both would be very solid additions. What is your anticipated impact of our Frosh class?
I think I would prefer Riley. Shot about 39 percent from 3 and a prominent scorer. I wouldn't mind starting NJ, AS, and Riley along with Royce amd Fru. The Riley could slide in as needed for NJ. Also gives more guard depth than Minnesale would. Riley would be a huge pickup.
Nice pickup in Fru.
Wish he had 2 years eligibility but it is what it is.
The best thing about that pickup is that, besides making the team immediately much better this upcoming season, it'll help a guy like Sheek (or even Josh if he develops) see what that role should look like going forward.
Shaka shouldn't have to go out and get another like Sananda the following year, he should be able to have someone step into the role internally.
As for Riley or Minessale either would be another good get, and both would be great.
If I had my choice on either/or I would pick whoever the better scorer and higher usage guy would be, and I would assume that would be Riley but the data guys can chime in here.
That would give Marquette a lineup of
N James
A Stevens
T Riley
R Parham
S Fru
That's a pretty good lineup that would compete for a top 3 spot in the BE and a roster bid given health.
Bench would be solid with potential guys and you just play whoever pops an grows the most
Damarius, Phillips, Clark/Caedin/Sheek, Ian, Nash, Egbuonu, Ethan Johnston gives Shaka a lot of options to red shirt and grow, find then next man up star, figure out who can shoot and defend well enough to play etc etc.
A lot of athleticism and length there too, and hopefully some good shooting and additional basketball skills.
As an aside to the Riley v Minessale talk, Nolan has an extra year of eligibility so you could argue that bringing him on could be more impactful for the program overall, if he hits.
My last point is that although I would take one of those two over another big, because they should be able to score and play heavy minutes at a 1-3 spot, if it was up to me I would bring in another high caliber big given the ability/funds and move on from one of our other two in house bigs.
The above team is good, but becomes that much better with yet one more starting caliber big.
Don't worry about how you'd play them, Shaka can figure it out
Quote from: Hards Alumni on April 16, 2026, 06:40:16 AMNot sure who likes to argue over nothing more, you or Sultan. ;D
It's just an honor to be nominated.
I am leaning toward tower's point of view. Two guards, or maybe a guard and a 2/3, because we just don't have the backcourt depth. If it's Riley and Minessale that's fine, but if we decide to go elsewhere, I will trust Shaka to find the right guys. Do we kick the tires again on Odih?
The concern I have with another big is cost. And if Sheek doesn't progress like the staff wants, they can go out and find one next year.
Quote from: Pakuni on April 16, 2026, 07:46:40 AMIt's just an honor to be nominated.
Well yeah. Because I am the obvious winner of the Arguing about Nothing Award.
Quote from: DoctorV on April 16, 2026, 07:35:47 AMNice pickup in Fru.
Wish he had 2 years eligibility but it is what it is.
tbh, I'd put the percentage chance he'll be able to play 2 more years if he wants at something quite high. 5 years is coming soon, it's just a ? of implementation plans, especially for a somewhat unique situation that Fru is in. But, my mindset right now is that seniors of today may be back again after the 2026-27 season in men's cbb.
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 15, 2026, 05:52:41 PMThat's why Fru was the top target
He absolutely was the #1 target for MU. Not done yet.
Quote from: The Sultan on April 16, 2026, 07:47:09 AMI am leaning toward tower's point of view. Two guards, or maybe a guard and a 2/3, because we just don't have the backcourt depth. If it's Riley and Minessale that's fine, but if we decide to go elsewhere, I will trust Shaka to find the right guys. Do we kick the tires again on Odih?
The concern I have with another big is cost. And if Sheek doesn't progress like the staff wants, they can go out and find one next year.
I'm all in on Riley. As far as a 2/3 or another big? I think versatility is more valuable but maybe you just go with the most talented option? I mean if we can get a legitimate sniper 2/3? That would pay huge dividends.
Quote from: tower912 on April 16, 2026, 05:49:36 AMDO, MP, Nash, Ian, EJ, Egbuono. That is six potential 3s already. AS, NJ. That is the guard room. Math.
Yeah. MU has a ton of 3's. Cant figure the emphasis by some for a 3. I have seen some posters slot Militec as a PF. He isnt. He is a 3. And he will likely have a good career. BTW, Egbuono likely projects as a PF.
Quote from: willie warrior on April 16, 2026, 08:13:10 AMYeah. MU has a ton of 3's. Cant figure the emphasis by some for a 3. I have seen some posters slot Militec as a PF. He isnt. He is a 3. And he will likely have a good career. BTW, Egbuono likely projects as a PF.
A *proven* 3 who can be a high usage guy. Not sure we have that on the roster currently, bub.
Willie, this is a good point. Egbuono reportedly brings an uncommon (for MU) combination of size and skill set. In HS, a broad bodied bruiser with guard skills.
Now, I have to sit down and breathe into a bag.
Quote from: Jay Bee on April 16, 2026, 08:16:19 AMA *proven* 3 who can be a high usage guy. Not sure we have that on the roster currently, bub.
This is one of your mantras that I tend to disagree with. I don't expect young guys to be as high usage early as they are by the time they leave. While you are correct that there are no proven high usage 3s in that group, I worry about that like you worry about team ft %. Most of the time (not every time) it works itself out.
And, with NJ, AS, and Royce projected to dominate the ball. 3, D, facilitator, glue is fine.
My understanding is Riley primarily played the 1 last year but previously played the 2. So he'd be able to start next to NJ and AS and slide over to the 1 to give NJ a break or in case of injury.
That would make much more sense than wasting a roster spot on someone that is strictly a backup 1.
Sounds like a great fit to me. If we add him and Minessale I'd be thrilled.
Quote from: tower912 on April 16, 2026, 08:23:06 AMThis is one of your mantras that I tend to disagree with. I don't expect young guys to be as high usage early as they are by the time they leave. While you are correct that there are no proven high usage 3s in that group, I worry about that like you worry about team ft %. Most of the time (not every time) it works itself out.
And, with NJ, AS, and Royce projected to dominate the ball. 3, D, facilitator, glue is fine.
Completely disagree. It was a projected issue last season, and eff'd us.
Looking toward next year, I do not see Adrien that way.
Nigel down slightly I think would be ideal.. Royce up modestly ideal.. and both of those are doable. Could we see a jump from Adrien and his 14.4% usage? He's a 3-point guy who doesn't get to the line a lot.. I think this is where we just see it differently, and I'm not even 100% on board that he's a lock for starter next year. Great player, but seeing him well into the 20's for usage next year isn't something I can project at this time.
#NeedUsage
Quote from: Jay Bee on April 16, 2026, 08:16:19 AMA *proven* 3 who can be a high usage guy. Not sure we have that on the roster currently, bub.
Two things Bub. Can we get a "proven" 3? You by your own statement do not have assurance that we dont have some guys on the roster that can handle the 3, bub. Likely we do.
If Riley can start in a 3 guard line-up and assuming Owens keeps progressing, is there room / need for Riley and Minessale?
Quote from: The Lens on April 16, 2026, 08:52:52 AMIf Riley can start in a 3 guard line-up and assuming Owens keeps progressing, is there room / need for Riley and Minessale?
Guards off the bench. To challenge. To allow others to rest. As an injury hedge.
Quote from: Pakuni on April 15, 2026, 08:22:25 PMJust because you think some posters are misfits who should go away doesn't mean you're bothered by what they have to say.
Got it.
I also find some posters/opinions annoying. And I think it's great they they're here exchanging their thoughts and ideas about the program that (I think) we all love and support.
Leave your sense of humor at home today?
Quote from: MuggsyB on April 16, 2026, 06:50:42 AMEither/Both would be very solid additions. What is your anticipated impact of our Frosh class?
I'm pretty optimistic. Sheek was a top 50 recruit in the incoming class. Now he's a top 50 recruit with a year in a college strength program and hundreds of practice hours to get used to the speed of the college game. I don't think it's unreasonable to think he will be a big contributor.
Egbuono has the offensive talent to play already and is in a big east ready body. Defense is the concern with him. My comp for him is Justin Lewis. Pair him with quality defenders and I could see (not guarentee) him being an effective 6th man.
I was sorry to hear that Nash got hurt, it tempers my expectations a bit. Supposedly he's our best shooter and there are rumors of elite passing skills. We'll see.
Ian i see having future but my guess is that if he redshirted last season, it's because he was behind Philips. Im not expecting more than a back of rotation spot for him.
Johnston is likely a redshirt candidate.
Don't know very much about Fru other than he was playing at Louisville. But, if he can effectively rebound, defend the rim, and score a little bit, he can certainly help.
Quote from: amgine_MU on April 16, 2026, 07:02:31 AMI think I would prefer Riley. Shot about 39 percent from 3 and a prominent scorer. I wouldn't mind starting NJ, AS, and Riley along with Royce amd Fru. The Riley could slide in as needed for NJ. Also gives more guard depth than Minnesale would. Riley would be a huge pickup.
Riley's trajectory of improvement has been one of the most stark I recall ever seeing.
Freshman Season Cal Baptist: 78 O-Rating, 19.9% Possessions, 16.7 3pt shooting
Sophomore Seas Cal Baptist: 98 O-Rating, 24% Possessions, 28% 3pt shooting
Junior Season Tulsa: 113 O-Rating, 29% Possessions, 38% 3pt shooting
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 16, 2026, 01:01:02 AMYou don't really need a 3. You can play three guard lineups to great success. I don't think a backup PG makes much sense. What does make sense is a combo guard who could play next to James or slide over to the 1 when James needs a breather. Riley or Minessale could fill that role.
I'd take both of them. Then you have James, Stevens, Owens, Minessale, and Riley. Five guards for a lot of three guard lineups next to Royce, Fru, and Sheek.
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 16, 2026, 09:04:51 AMEgbuono has the offensive talent to play already and is in a big east ready body. Defense is the concern with him. My comp for him is Justin Lewis. Pair him with quality defenders and I could see (not guarentee) him being an effective 6th man.
Not the first time I've seen the Egbuonu-Lewis comparison. Here's hoping, because a freshman-level Lewis would make an outstanding contribution to the team.
Just curious why ESPN has no mention of Fru going to Marquette. Even wikipedia has been updated noting the transfer to Marquette
Quote from: muwarrior69 on April 16, 2026, 11:05:41 AMJust curious why ESPN has no mention of Fru going to Marquette. Even wikipedia has been updated noting the transfer to Marquette
I'd assume because they are poor at covering college basketball.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on April 16, 2026, 11:05:41 AMJust curious why ESPN has no mention of Fru going to Marquette. Even wikipedia has been updated noting the transfer to Marquette
their strategy involves shunning anything Big East due to media rights is my understanding
Quote from: MUeng on April 16, 2026, 11:12:25 AMtheir strategy involves shunning anything Big East due to media rights is my understanding
Yep.. They only really cover UConn from the big east. And thats because their employees care about it
Quote from: MUpugnacity on April 16, 2026, 11:09:13 AMI'd assume because they are poor at covering college basketball.
They actually have a portal update at the top of their page for NCAAM. Big East teams have numerous updates and with a big transfer like Fru surprised at the omission.
Did the Post report it? Wondering if it really happened.
Quote from: tower912 on April 16, 2026, 11:19:08 AMDid the Post report it? Wondering if it really happened.
I wouldn't know. Men's basketball is behind a paywall and they cover mostly St John's and since ESPN did not report it most people did not know it happened either if they were following ESPN's portal updates.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on April 16, 2026, 11:31:17 AMI wouldn't know. Men's basketball is behind a paywall and they cover mostly St John's and since ESPN did not report it most people did not know it happened either if they were following ESPN's portal updates.
Most people don't know it happened because they don't care one bit about Marquette basketball.
With that being the case, who cares if ESPN didn't report it?
Quote from: The Sultan on April 16, 2026, 11:34:19 AMMost people don't know it happened because they don't care one bit about Marquette basketball.
With that being the case, who cares if ESPN didn't report it?
It's always raining
Quote from: muwarrior69 on April 16, 2026, 11:05:41 AMJust curious why ESPN has no mention of Fru going to Marquette.
Maybe because of our "one bad year"?
ESPN focuses on teams that have come off a good year and are restocking. The news of Marquette's landing Fru
may show up eventually.
Quote from: Elonsmusk on April 16, 2026, 09:59:48 AMRiley's trajectory of improvement has been one of the most stark I recall ever seeing.
Freshman Season Cal Baptist: 78 O-Rating, 19.9% Possessions, 16.7 3pt shooting
Sophomore Seas Cal Baptist: 98 O-Rating, 24% Possessions, 28% 3pt shooting
Junior Season Tulsa: 113 O-Rating, 29% Possessions, 38% 3pt shooting
It's absolutely wild. He barely played as a freshman, then it looks like he battled injuries through much of his sophomore year but had a strong finish, then transfered UP and became a 2nd team All-AAC.
Then things I like most about Riley are his PG experience for when Nigel goes to the bench, he has enough size to play SG next Nigel, and he gets to the FT line a lot (over 200 attempts last season, 85%+ at the FT line!).
Not the greatest defender, but a +0.85 DBPR is ok. For comparison, Royce was +0.75 DBPR last year.
I'd gladly take Riley, if Shaka can land him.
Quote from: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on April 16, 2026, 02:39:19 PMIt's absolutely wild. He barely played as a freshman, then it looks like he battled injuries through much of his sophomore year but had a strong finish, then transfered UP and became a 2nd team All-AAC.
Then things I like most about Riley are his PG experience for when Nigel goes to the bench, he has enough size to play SG next Nigel, and he gets to the FT line a lot (over 200 attempts last season, 85%+ at the FT line!).
Not the greatest defender, but a +0.85 DBPR is ok. For comparison, Royce was +0.75 DBPR last year.
I'd gladly take Riley, if Shaka can land him.
I agree...the trajectory is headed the right direction, and another guard able to create his shot would be helpful. 85% FT shooter indicative of him being a good shooter in general, strong Freethrow Rate as you point out - lots to like.
If we get him, we'll be living the life of Riley.
And I do like bringing in upperclassmen with offensive skills, I trust Shaka to teach defense more than offense.
Not saying he'll be a great defender, but I'd bet Shaka can get him up to average. He has the quickness.
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 16, 2026, 09:04:51 AMI'm pretty optimistic. Sheek was a top 50 recruit in the incoming class. Now he's a top 50 recruit with a year in a college strength program and hundreds of practice hours to get used to the speed of the college game. I don't think it's unreasonable to think he will be a big contributor.
Egbuono has the offensive talent to play already and is in a big east ready body. Defense is the concern with him. My comp for him is Justin Lewis. Pair him with quality defenders and I could see (not guarentee) him being an effective 6th man.
I was sorry to hear that Nash got hurt, it tempers my expectations a bit. Supposedly he's our best shooter and there are rumors of elite passing skills. We'll see.
Ian i see having future but my guess is that if he redshirted last season, it's because he was behind Philips. Im not expecting more than a back of rotation spot for him.
Johnston is likely a redshirt candidate.
Ty, TAMU. I think we very easily could have pulled off a coup with Fru, and we may only be one more piece away from a tremendous resurgence in Milwaukee.
Clark and Hamilton will benefit going up against Fru in practice. They will improve significantly.
Quote from: Badgerhater on April 16, 2026, 04:02:10 PMClark and Hamilton will benefit going up against Fru in practice. They will improve significantly.
Eh. I'm not sure about that...
Quote from: The Sultan on April 16, 2026, 04:07:12 PMEh. I'm not sure about that...
One wasn't going to learn much guarding Ben Gold.
Quote from: Badgerhater on April 16, 2026, 04:02:10 PMClark and Hamilton will benefit going up against Fru in practice. They will improve significantly.
Replace Clark & Hamilton with Sheek and I'll agree with you.
Quote from: DoctorV on April 16, 2026, 07:35:47 AMNice pickup in Fru.
Wish he had 2 years eligibility but it is what it is.
The best thing about that pickup is that, besides making the team immediately much better this upcoming season, it'll help a guy like Sheek (or even Josh if he develops) see what that role should look like going forward.
Shaka shouldn't have to go out and get another like Sananda the following year, he should be able to have someone step into the role internally.
As for Riley or Minessale either would be another good get, and both would be great.
If I had my choice on either/or I would pick whoever the better scorer and higher usage guy would be, and I would assume that would be Riley but the data guys can chime in here.
That would give Marquette a lineup of
N James
A Stevens
T Riley
R Parham
S Fru
That's a pretty good lineup that would compete for a top 3 spot in the BE and a roster bid given health.
Bench would be solid with potential guys and you just play whoever pops an grows the most
Damarius, Phillips, Clark/Caedin/Sheek, Ian, Nash, Egbuonu, Ethan Johnston gives Shaka a lot of options to red shirt and grow, find then next man up star, figure out who can shoot and defend well enough to play etc etc.
A lot of athleticism and length there too, and hopefully some good shooting and additional basketball skills.
As an aside to the Riley v Minessale talk, Nolan has an extra year of eligibility so you could argue that bringing him on could be more impactful for the program overall, if he hits.
My last point is that although I would take one of those two over another big, because they should be able to score and play heavy minutes at a 1-3 spot, if it was up to me I would bring in another high caliber big given the ability/funds and move on from one of our other two in house bigs.
The above team is good, but becomes that much better with yet one more starting caliber big.
Don't worry about how you'd play them, Shaka can figure it out
Riley's like 6"2 not sure u want him starting at the 3?
Quote from: Badgerhater on April 16, 2026, 04:36:47 PMOne wasn't going to learn much guarding Ben Gold.
I'm questioning "significantly."
Quote from: The Lens on April 16, 2026, 08:52:52 AMIf Riley can start in a 3 guard line-up and assuming Owens keeps progressing, is there room / need for Riley and Minessale?
My thoughts as well. And then there are Phillips, Ian and Egbuonu who looks physically ready to contribute in year 1. Good depth at the 2&3.
I'm no scout but do you bring in a mid-major top player and play them over a Phillips and Egbuonu? And saying St Thomas MN is a mid-major is a stretch.
Riley clearly makes sense as he is proven against good talent and he fits a need with Sean Jones leaving.
Quote from: The Lens on April 16, 2026, 08:52:52 AMIf Riley can start in a 3 guard line-up and assuming Owens keeps progressing, is there room / need for Riley and Minessale?
Yes, the rest of our team was not good last year
No other way to put it. With Fru in the fold, guard depth is the paramount concern.
We did a lot of winning with a lineup that included 6-2 Kolek, 6-2 Mitchell and 6-4 Jones ... so I guess it's possible we'd hang in there OK on defense with 6-0 James, 6-1 Riley and 6-4 Stevens.
But Stevie was an extremely tough kid who played taller than his height, willingly mixed it up with much bigger players, and loved playing defense. And Kolek was both sturdy and good at anticipating plays.
A James-Riley-Stevens backcourt could run into trouble defensively similar to the Markus-Rowsey-Sacar backcourt.
I echo others who have said they doubt Riley would come here to play 15-20 mpg off the bench. Obviously, Stevens isn't guaranteed a starting spot, but unless we also add Minessale or another wing, who on the roster would be better than Adrien at the wing? A freshman? A redshirt? D.O. or Phillips? Not seeing it.
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 16, 2026, 09:04:51 AMI'm pretty optimistic. Sheek was a top 50 recruit in the incoming class. Now he's a top 50 recruit with a year in a college strength program and hundreds of practice hours to get used to the speed of the college game. I don't think it's unreasonable to think he will be a big contributor.
Egbuono has the offensive talent to play already and is in a big east ready body. Defense is the concern with him. My comp for him is Justin Lewis. Pair him with quality defenders and I could see (not guarentee) him being an effective 6th man.
I was sorry to hear that Nash got hurt, it tempers my expectations a bit. Supposedly he's our best shooter and there are rumors of elite passing skills. We'll see.
Ian i see having future but my guess is that if he redshirted last season, it's because he was behind Philips. Im not expecting more than a back of rotation spot for him.
Johnston is likely a redshirt candidate.
I agree with this analysis*
*everything except the Ian part.
Going to surprise people!
Quote from: MU82 on April 16, 2026, 06:33:41 PMA James-Riley-Stevens backcourt could run into trouble defensively similar to the Markus-Rowsey-Sacar backcourt.
James and Stevens are better defenders than Rowsey while at MU or Howard, particularly as a frosh. Huge difference as shooters. Sacar was a pretty good defender but I think Stevens can be as good. No idea about Riley.
I think Sheek will improve over the course of the season, especially his awareness and feel for the game. Playing against Fru at practice will be beneficial, and he's already gone through the rigors of a college weight room, so I think he'll come in more physically prepared than most freshmen. I also love that Sheek will be able to slot in at PF for a pair of 6'11" forwards.
It's not out of the realm of possibility that either Josh or Caedin might surprise us next season in spot minutes. Fru is a 1-year rental, so Sheek projects as the starter and having a developed/older big man as back-up C in 27-28 is key. Who knows what they'll need to add in the portal next offseason, but it'd be awesome to not have to drop a bag on a center every spring.
Quote from: Zog from Margo on April 16, 2026, 08:15:30 PMJames and Stevens are better defenders than Rowsey while at MU or Howard, particularly as a frosh. Huge difference as shooters. Sacar was a pretty good defender but I think Stevens can be as good. No idea about Riley.
I think the woeful outcome makes people forget how exciting the freshman seasons for Nigel and Adrien were. We haven't seen frosh campaigns like this in quite a while. Even Kam and Howard had nowhere near the outings these 2 have had. If they make a sophomore leap and have a lot more help....
That said, 2026 Royce (tough November/December) has been as good as Kam, Stevie, Markus, and Sam Hauser were. Possibly even better. He definitely could be an all-conference player next season.
Quote from: SchnitzelBoy on April 16, 2026, 08:19:15 PMI think the woeful outcome makes people forget how exciting the freshman seasons for Nigel and Adrien were. We haven't seen frosh campaigns like this in quite a while. Even Kam and Howard had nowhere near the outings these 2 have had. If they make a sophomore leap and have a lot more help....
Nigel was great last year, but Markus had nine 20+ point games his freshman year, including a 34-point game in which he shot 9-for-12 from three. He led the nation in three-point shooting as a freshman. Suggesting he had "nowhere near the outings" of James and Stevens is way off.
QuoteThat said, 2026 Royce (tough November/December) has been as good as Kam, Stevie, Markus, and Sam Hauser were. Possibly even better. He definitely could be an all-conference player next season.
Royce better than Kam, Markus and Sam? Huh???
Quote from: Pakuni on April 16, 2026, 08:43:49 PMNigel was great last year, but Markus had nine 20+ point games his freshman year, including a 34-point game in which he shot 9-for-12 from three. He led the nation in three-point shooting as a freshman. Suggesting he had "nowhere near the outings" of James and Stevens is way off.
Royce better than Kam, Markus and Sam? Huh???
There have been a lot of hot takes on here over the years, but Schnitzel is really making up for lost time with some of these.
Marquette will have the entire Big East first team next year.
Here's why I think adding an additional perimeter shooter/scorer will pay major dividends for MU:
Nigel can't really be guarded. Yes, he was erratic at times, could go cold from the perimeter, and sometimes forced bad shots. But remember, he generally had 3 guys paying attention to him. You add a lob and flush threat inside and uh-oh, the defense has a problem. You add another perimeter threat who can stick an open three and score in open space? Massive problem and a spaced floor. You give Nigel more open space to create and attack? Good luck. You might as well try to eat Lobster Bisque with a fork.
Quote from: MuggsyB on April 16, 2026, 09:00:42 PMHere's why I think adding an additional perimeter shooter/scorer will pay major dividends for MU:
Nigel can't really be guarded. Yes, he was erratic at times, could go cold from the perimeter, and sometimes forced bad shots. But remember, he generally had 3 guys paying attention to him. You add a lob and flush threat inside and uh-oh, the defense has a problem. You add another perimeter threat who can stick an open three and score in open space? Massive problem and a spaced floor. You give Nigel more open space to create and attack? Good luck. You might as well try to eat Lobster Bisque with a fork.
The new "bbq chicken" will be "lobster bisque." Fits the Big East better.
Quote from: GoFastAndWin on April 16, 2026, 07:56:02 PMI agree with this analysis*
*everything except the Ian part.
Going to surprise people!
You've been all in on Miletic. I like the optimism and really hope you are right.
Quote from: The_Blaze on April 16, 2026, 05:14:52 PMMy thoughts as well. And then there are Phillips, Ian and Egbuonu who looks physically ready to contribute in year 1. Good depth at the 2&3.
I'm no scout but do you bring in a mid-major top player and play them over a Phillips and Egbuonu? And saying St Thomas MN is a mid-major is a stretch.
Riley clearly makes sense as he is proven against good talent and he fits a need with Sean Jones leaving.
This scout sounds extremely young
Quote from: The_Blaze on April 16, 2026, 05:14:52 PMI'm no scout but do you bring in a mid-major top player and play them over a Phillips and Egbuonu? And saying St Thomas MN is a mid-major is a stretch.
I can think of a few mid-major players who did OK when they transferred up.
Re: Egbuono, people talk about big-bodied guards...is he similar to Deonte Burton?
Quote from: Badgerhater on April 16, 2026, 04:02:10 PMClark and Hamilton will benefit going up against Fru in practice. They will improve significantly.
Funny way to spell Sheek Pearson but okay.
Quote from: Badgerhater on April 16, 2026, 04:02:10 PMClark and Hamilton will benefit going up against Fru in practice. They will improve significantly.
At least Shaka will be able to determine if "twinkle toes" has the intestinal fortitude to compete at the BEAST level.....I am of the opinion that he can't.....But either way....By the end of next year....We have a viable option or it frees up another scholarship....Shaka has been more than patient....Similar to Tre....
Quote from: Pakuni on April 16, 2026, 10:16:51 PMI can think of a few mid-major players who did OK when they transferred up.
I do think that's a legit concern with Minessale. Not saying he can't do it, but coming from the A-10 or AAC is far different than the Summit.
As a St. Thomas expert myself (ever since they beat Marquette), the league they're in stunk last year outside them and North Dakota. That's not his fault but he didn't really get tested against elite talent. The defenses were downright bad in the Summit. It's too bad he didn't get to show himself in the big dance, even for one game.
Saying all that, he won't be the lead dog at Marquette and just needs to find his role should he join but I'd expect a statistical regression.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 17, 2026, 06:09:07 AMI do think that's a legit concern with Minessale. Not saying he can't do it, but coming from the A-10 or AAC is far different than the Summit.
As a St. Thomas expert myself (ever since they beat Marquette), the league they're in stunk last year outside them and North Dakota. That's not his fault but he didn't really get tested against elite talent. The defenses were downright bad in the Summit. It's too bad he didn't get to show himself in the big dance, even for one game.
Saying all that, he won't be the lead dog at Marquette and just needs to find his role should he join but I'd expect a statistical regression.
Don't disagree that it would be a big leap and how he would navigate it is anyone's guess.
That said, the Summit has produced some very good P5 players in recent years: Baylor Scheierman, Grant Nelson, Max Abrams, Zeke Mayo, Marquel Sutton, Oscar Cluff, etc.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 17, 2026, 06:09:07 AMI do think that's a legit concern with Minessale. Not saying he can't do it, but coming from the A-10 or AAC is far different than the Summit.
As a St. Thomas expert myself (ever since they beat Marquette), the league they're in stunk last year outside them and North Dakota. That's not his fault but he didn't really get tested against elite talent. The defenses were downright bad in the Summit. It's too bad he didn't get to show himself in the big dance, even for one game.
Saying all that, he won't be the lead dog at Marquette and just needs to find his role should he join but I'd expect a statistical regression.
better than just-a-guy but not quite an 'exciting white', hey?
Quote from: Viper on April 17, 2026, 07:34:43 AMbetter than just-a-guy but not quite an 'exciting white', hey?
If he comes to Marquette, I fully expect scoop to only comp him to white guys and to be a fan favorite "scrappy, gym rat who just gets it"
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 17, 2026, 07:38:52 AMIf he comes to Marquette, I fully expect scoop to only comp him to white guys and to be a fan favorite "scrappy, gym rat who just gets it"
Many have already said he is Tyler Kolek, despite the fact that they do not play remotely the same way. :o
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 17, 2026, 07:38:52 AMIf he comes to Marquette, I fully expect scoop to only comp him to white guys and to be a fan favorite "scrappy, gym rat who just gets it"
Coach's kid. First in the gym, last to leave. Sneaky athletic.
Quote from: Hards Alumni on April 17, 2026, 07:40:22 AMMany have already said he is Tyler Kolek, despite the fact that they do not play remotely the same way. :o
They very much play the same way, in that they play for the name on the front of the jersey instead of the one on the back.
St. Thomas did finish 115th in kenpom. That sounds like a mid major.
Quote from: Hards Alumni on April 17, 2026, 07:40:22 AMMany have already said he is Tyler Kolek, despite the fact that they do not play remotely the same way. :o
Basically a better Matt heldt
The discourse around Minessale is shaped by him being local (and white) but he had a great season up at St. Thomas so the hype is not unfounded. That said, I think it's wrong to assume a Summit League player starts for Marquette on day 1. He's athletic, sure. But is he more athletic than Damarius Owens who jumps out of the goddam gym? His finishing is excellent but would he have been even remotely as effective going against Zuby Ejiofor, Dillon Mitchell, Oswin, or Tarris Reed?
If I had to pick between Minessale and Riley, I'd go with the latter because of the need for PG depth. Not saying no to adding him, but I think there's a logjam at the 3 right now and like the long-term potential of our current guys enough.
Quote from: SchnitzelBoy on April 17, 2026, 09:20:32 AMBut is he more athletic than Damarius Owens who jumps out of the goddam gym? His finishing is excellent but would he have been even remotely as effective going against Zuby Ejiofor, Dillon Mitchell, Oswin, or Tarris Reed?
Well, with all of Owens' athleticism, has he been effectiving going against those guys? Sure he is athletic, but he is the perfect example of how being athletic doesn't necessarily make you a good basketball player.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 17, 2026, 07:38:52 AMIf he comes to Marquette, I fully expect scoop to only comp him to white guys and to be a fan favorite "scrappy, gym rat who just gets it"
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 17, 2026, 06:09:07 AMI do think that's a legit concern with Minessale. Not saying he can't do it, but coming from the A-10 or AAC is far different than the Summit.
As a St. Thomas expert myself (ever since they beat Marquette), the league they're in stunk last year outside them and North Dakota. That's not his fault but he didn't really get tested against elite talent. The defenses were downright bad in the Summit. It's too bad he didn't get to show himself in the big dance, even for one game.
Saying all that, he won't be the lead dog at Marquette and just needs to find his role should he join but I'd expect a statistical regression.
Small sample size but he put up good stats against Saint Mary's and Washington St
Quote from: lawdog77 on April 17, 2026, 10:07:12 AMSmall sample size but he put up good stats against Saint Mary's and Washington St
He did. I think he'll be fine in lower usage role.
Quote from: Hards Alumni on April 17, 2026, 07:40:22 AMMany have already said he is Tyler Kolek, despite the fact that they do not play remotely the same way. :o
Some of the advanced stats people can probably prove me wrong, but prior to their time at Marquette they actually had pretty similar roles. Both were off ball guards who could play on the ball when needed. Kolek was the better perimeter shooter, but Minessale actually had a higher eFG% both years at St. Thomas than Kolek had at George Mason. Minessale actually averaged almost double the assists that Kolek did in his year at George Mason (not sure on assist rate). Minessale turned it over more (again, unsure on turnover rate). Both get into passing lanes defensively. Minessale gets to the line A TON more than Kolek ever did (which we could use).
Kolek did it at a much higher level than what Minessale has been at, but Minessale's numbers were better than Kolek's and their roles at George Mason and St. Thomas were actually pretty similar.
Quote from: SchnitzelBoy on April 17, 2026, 09:20:32 AMThe discourse around Minessale is shaped by him being local (and white) but he had a great season up at St. Thomas so the hype is not unfounded. That said, I think it's wrong to assume a Summit League player starts for Marquette on day 1. He's athletic, sure. But is he more athletic than Damarius Owens who jumps out of the goddam gym? His finishing is excellent but would he have been even remotely as effective going against Zuby Ejiofor, Dillon Mitchell, Oswin, or Tarris Reed?
If I had to pick between Minessale and Riley, I'd go with the latter because of the need for PG depth. Not saying no to adding him, but I think there's a logjam at the 3 right now and like the long-term potential of our current guys enough.
I've seen something along these lines posted here multiple times. Minessale can and has played PG. He can also play the 2. I dont think he's a 3 at the big east level.
Nolan over performed in AAU with Chapman (put CBA on the map)
Nolan over performed in HS with MUHS (state champs)
Nolan over performed Year 1 at UST (starter)
Nolan over performed Year 2 at UST (high major attention)
Every level was supposed to finally put this kid in his place and it hasn't. He may just be special. His athleticism takes a back seat to nobody. I've seen him win game by deferring and do all the "little things". I've seen him completely take over. DO has been in the program for 2 years and has a lot of talent but Nolan starting at the 3 come November would not surprise me. And will be a sign that we're deep and ready to contend.
Quote from: The Lens on April 17, 2026, 11:12:19 AMNolan over performed in AAU with Chapman (put CBA on the map)
Nolan over performed in HS with MUHS (state champs)
Nolan over performed Year 1 at UST (starter)
Nolan over performed Year 2 at UST (high major attention)
Every level was supposed to finally put this kid in his place and it hasn't. He may just be special. His athleticism takes a back seat to nobody. I've seen him win game by deferring and do all the "little things". I've seen him completely take over. DO has been in the program for 2 years and has a lot of talent but Nolan starting at the 3 come November would not surprise me. And will be a sign that we're deep and ready to contend.
With the caveat that I've only watched him in highlights, I'm not that impressed with his athleticism. It's perfectly fine for BE level. I don't think he'll be overmatched. But outside of his vertical I didn't see a ton of qualities I'd call athletic, especially laterally.
I do really like his game.
Analytics are just analytics but Minessale projects to be our 3rd best player behind Nigel and our other portal pickup. I'm pretty sure he's coming here to start and play a ton of minutes.
I prefer Minessale to Riley because of his height and defense, and I think he'll be a good addition to the team. I do wish he shot the 3 better, but looking at his game logs he had some stretches during which he shot it OK - for instance, a 14-game stretch near the end of the season where he hit 35%.
Minessale has a good neck.
Quote from: MU82 on April 17, 2026, 11:23:41 AMI prefer Minessale to Riley because of his height and defense, and I think he'll be a good addition to the team. I do wish he shot the 3 better, but looking at his game logs he had some stretches during which he shot it OK - for instance, a 14-game stretch near the end of the season where he hit 35%.
Somebody posted on one of these sites that Nolan shot much better on catch and shoots and that his misses were more off the dribble.
Quote from: Hards Alumni on April 17, 2026, 07:40:22 AMMany have already said he is Tyler Kolek, despite the fact that they do not play remotely the same way. :o
Maybe more of a Brian Wardle. Hell, Minnsale, too, may end up as MU head coach someday.
I like that Minessale is 6'5" and can play in the backcourt. I keep seeing conflicting reports about him as a backup PG candidate. If he could play 1-3, he'd be a huge get and we might not need Riley. Now if MU splashes $$$ and we get both? We're cooking.
Quote from: Nukem2 on April 17, 2026, 12:09:40 PMSomebody posted on one of these sites that Nolan shot much better on catch and shoots and that his misses were more off the dribble.
If true, that would be good, because he figures to get plenty of catch-and-shoot opportunities on kick-outs from Nigel's lane touches and Fru's offensive boards.
Quote from: Galway Eagle on April 17, 2026, 08:20:36 AMBasically a better Matt heldt
the milkman is without comparison
Quote from: Tha Hound on April 17, 2026, 11:20:44 AMAnalytics are just analytics but Minessale projects to be our 3rd best player behind Nigel and our other portal pickup. I'm pretty sure he's coming here to start and play a ton of minutes.
Where would Riley fit in?
How does somebody who has seen both, Militec vs Minessale?
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 17, 2026, 06:09:07 AMAs a St. Thomas expert myself (ever since they beat Marquette), the league they're in stunk last year outside them and North Dakota.
#FakeNews #Lies
North Dakota State went 14-2 in the conference and won the regular season and conf tourney, then headed to the NCAA tourney.
So does anyone want to examine how Minessale performed vs NDSU and against any p5 programs or mid major conference champions?
Quote from: Nukem2 on April 17, 2026, 12:09:40 PMSomebody posted on one of these sites that Nolan shot much better on catch and shoots and that his misses were more off the dribble.
That person was unfortunately mistaken.
His freshman year he shot 42.9% on unguarded catch and shoots. Other than that, any way you slice his outside shooting stats, they're not great.
Quote from: Galway Eagle on April 17, 2026, 02:19:29 PMSo does anyone want to examine how Minessale performed vs NDSU and against any p5 programs or mid major conference champions?
Blah against St. Mary's
Great against Washington State
Bad against Seattle
One good performance against ND State and one terrible one
Eh against Montana State
Very good against Portland and Northern Colorado
Decent against Cal State Fullerton
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 17, 2026, 02:25:12 PMBlah against St. Mary's
He went 24/5/2 against St. Mary's and that's considered blah?
Quote from: K1 Lover on April 17, 2026, 02:27:40 PMHe went 24/5/2 against St. Mary's and that's considered blah?
3 turnovers to 2 assists, 2-6 from 3, 2-4 from the line, 97 ORtg. Blah
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 17, 2026, 02:31:20 PM3 turnovers to 2 assists, 2-6 from 3, 2-4 from the line, 97 ORtg. Blah
In other words, he had 1 more turnover than assists against the #19 defense, shot above his average from deep, and missed two FTs. Gotcha.
Quote from: K1 Lover on April 17, 2026, 02:37:41 PMIn other words, he had 1 more turnover than assists against the #19 defense, shot above his average from deep, and missed two FTs. Gotcha.
If he's going to be a guy that handles the rock, then yes, more assists than turnovers against good teams is helpful.
Blah isn't an indictment on him as a player. It was his first game his sophomore year. And he won't be as high usage a guy at Marquette. Probably.
Baseline ORtg is 100. It was 97. It was blah.
Hope I'm wrong but minnesalle in the big east seems like katin reinhardt 2.0.
Kinda slow and doesn't shoot particularly well from 3.
Quote from: Johnny B on April 17, 2026, 02:51:49 PMHope I'm wrong but minnesalle in the big east seems like katin reinhardt 2.0.
Kinda slow and doesn't shoot particularly well from 3.
Reinhardt shot 37.5% from 3 for Marquette and 41% in Big East play
Have we compared him to every white guy yet? Frozena if he were good enough to earn a scholly.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 17, 2026, 02:46:25 PMIf he's going to be a guy that handles the rock, then yes, more assists than turnovers against good teams is helpful.
Let's hope Shaka improves his ball-handling this season. Looking at his stats more, I'm seeing that he can be rather turnover prone. Fortunately, however, he also appears to be a great defensive rebounder.
Quote from: Its DJOver on April 17, 2026, 02:55:01 PMHave we compared him to every white guy yet? Frozena if he were good enough to earn a scholly.
Smaller Dan Fitzgerald
Quote from: Its DJOver on April 17, 2026, 02:55:01 PMHave we compared him to every white guy yet? Frozena if he were good enough to earn a scholly.
I haven't seen Matt Heldt yet. Guess that's reserved for Fru.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 17, 2026, 02:54:43 PMReinhardt shot 37.5% from 3 for Marquette and 41% in Big East play
Scoop is such a special place.
Quote from: K1 Lover on April 17, 2026, 02:56:24 PMLet's hope Shaka improves his ball-handling this season. Looking at his stats more, I'm seeing that he can be rather turnover prone. Fortunately, however, he also appears to be a great defensive rebounder.
Part of that, one hopes is, he isn't the primary ball handler and lower usage leads to less turnovers. I'm just tempering expectations. I think his addition is a plus overall and will be a valuable contributor.
Quote from: The Sultan on April 17, 2026, 02:59:16 PMScoop is such a special place.
Maybe I'm remembering incorrectly, but I'm not sure slow is a good way to describe him either
Quote from: Its DJOver on April 17, 2026, 02:55:01 PMHave we compared him to every white guy yet? Frozena if he were good enough to earn a scholly.
Reminds me a lot of Mark Anglavar.
Quote from: wadesworld on April 17, 2026, 02:58:24 PMI haven't seen Matt Heldt yet. Guess that's reserved for Fru.
Surprised I haven't read Wally Ellenson yet.
2025:
ASU
2-8, 6pts
OK ST
5-13, 13pts
Omaha (Summit Champs)
2-4, 6pts
4-7, 15pts
6-10, 20pts
Wofford (SoCon tournament champs)
3-6, 7pts
Northern Colorado (Big Sky co champs)
8-12, 18pts
Montana (Big Sky co champs)
7-9, 22pts
2026:
NDSU (Summit champs)
6-10, 17pts
4-12, 16pts
WSU
6-10, 20pts
SMC
10-19, 24pts
Seattle (Q2)
5-13, 15pts
Montana St (Q2)
5-9, 13pts
So by my count these are the games we should really look at.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on April 17, 2026, 03:08:06 PMSurprised I haven't read Wally Ellenson yet.
Wished he could hop like the OG kangaroo kid Don Kojis
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 17, 2026, 03:00:15 PMI'm just tempering expectations. I think his addition is a plus overall and will be a valuable contributor.
This. Temper expectations. Then if he exceeds them, we're happy. Not that complicated of a concept. ::)
Quote from: Galway Eagle on April 17, 2026, 03:14:44 PM2025:
ASU
OK ST
Omaha
Wofford
Northern Colorado
Montana
2026:
NDSU
WSU
SMC
So by my count these are the games we should really look at.
Fru's thread is slowly becoming a Minessale thread.
Anyway, if the goal is to look at his performance in more difficult games, it'd be worth taking quadrants into account. St. Thomas had a lone Q1 matchup @Saint Mary's this season, with their three Q2s being @Montana St, @North Dakota St, and @Seattle.
I'm cautiously optimistic he'll be a contributor! And by the looks of it, we'd beat Wisconsin out for his signature... That's never a bad thing for MU.
Quote from: K1 Lover on April 17, 2026, 03:22:22 PMFru's thread is slowly becoming a Minessale thread.
Anyway, if the goal is to look at his performance in more difficult games, it'd be worth taking quadrants into account. St. Thomas had a lone Q1 matchup @Saint Mary's this season, with their three Q2s being @Montana St, @North Dakota St, and @Seattle.
Yeah but I wanted to include power conference teams as well due to physical differences in the players hence WSU. Agree quadrants is a good starting point as well.
Need a Joe Nethen on this team...
Quote from: StillAWarrior on April 17, 2026, 03:04:22 PMReminds me a lot of Mark Anglavar.
Quote from: Pakuni on April 17, 2026, 07:33:37 AMDon't disagree that it would be a big leap and how he would navigate it is anyone's guess.
That said, the Summit has produced some very good P5 players in recent years: Baylor Scheierman, Grant Nelson, Max Abrams, Zeke Mayo, Marquel Sutton, Oscar Cluff, etc.
Could Minessale have progressed into a high major rotational player after being recruited by Green Bay, South Dakota and St Thomas out of HS? It's possible as Andrew Rowsey came from the Big South and did well at MU.
But there is already plenty of talent at the 2/3 that he does not clearly look better than - Stevens, DO, Ian, Phillips and Egbuonu. If they are allowed to work him out then have him go against those guys and if he does well then possibly make an offer.
If Minessale was a 5, or a 1 as Riley will be a tough get, that would be a different story.
Quote from: The_Blaze on April 17, 2026, 04:00:23 PMBut there is already plenty of talent at the 2/3 that he does not clearly look better than - Stevens, DO, Ian, Phillips and Egbuonu.
Ian and Egbuonu are complete unknowns. No way anyone can say that.
But DO and MP are really not very complete players. We will see I guess.
Every year there are big time low major players that do very well making the jump to the high majors and Scoopers moan about why we can't go after a low major in the portal like that. Now that it appears we might be getting one we're deciding he might not be good enough?
Like all transfers, there are rarely guarantees. But he averaged 20/4/4 in a conference that has seen a number of players move up from and be very good high major players.
He's a decently sized wing who has been high usage offensively and gets to the free throw line a lot, and finishes at the rim well. These are all things that this year's team could've used a ton of. Will he be an All Big East player next year? Probably not. But I'd be surprised if he's not a solid rotational BE player.
Quote from: Johnny B on April 17, 2026, 02:51:49 PMHope I'm wrong but minnesalle in the big east seems like katin reinhardt 2.0.
Kinda slow and doesn't shoot particularly well from 3.
First ... no.
Second ... After struggling early, Katin went on to have a nice season for an entertaining Marquette team that went to the NCAA Tournament and also beat the #1 team in the nation. So there would be worse players for Minessale to be like than Reinhardt.
Potential starting 5
Nigel
Stevens
Riley/DO
Royce
Fru
Minessale 6th man spelling where we need to adjust at the 16 min. Kinda always thought wed go guard, big, 6th man. And I see Minnie as that, at least to start out.
I get the DO point will be criticized. I think he takes a leap and is defensive length for Shaka. Shaka likes his defensive guys. And tbh, I can see him as first sub out as well.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 17, 2026, 02:54:43 PMReinhardt shot 37.5% from 3 for Marquette and 41% in Big East play
So? Anyone here honestly say he was an "impact" player. He wasn't bad, just not a needle mover type guy
Quote from: Johnny B on April 17, 2026, 04:35:52 PMSo? Anyone here honestly say he was an "impact" player. He wasn't bad, just not a needle mover type guy
You said he was a bad 3-point shooter. No one is saying Minessale is an impact players but you said Reinhardt was a bad shooter.
Also, Reinhardt was 7th in the Big East in Ortg, 7th in Effective FG %, 8th in TS%, 19th in assist rate, and 4th in TO%. If Minessale is worst version of that, sign me up.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 17, 2026, 04:38:30 PMYou said he was a bad 3-point shooter. No one is saying Minessale is an impact players but you said Reinhardt was a bad shooter.
Nah I said Nolan wasn't a great shooter. I meant impact wise Nolan maybe close to katin. idk :/
Seen him enough in person, I said to myself. Last year watching him at AP working out, was why did MU not recruit him. Great body, jumps out of the gym for a white boy, can create, much better then Any forward they have at the wing. At St Thomas he was being guarded by the other teams best player, at MU the best player will be on James.
Quote from: Johnny B on April 17, 2026, 04:42:01 PMNah I said Nolan wasn't a great shooter. I meant impact wise Nolan maybe close to katin. idk :/
If Minnesale's impact is that of a solid rotational piece on an NCAA Tournament team, that would make him a good addition.
BC - you're right ...
Minessale can get to the rim , score, create and hit 3s ( his percentage will likely go up at MU as he will not be focus of other defenses)
He's strong and extremely athletic...
Not many white guys can dunk - in traffic - w/ two hands.
I say he starts. He's better than DO.
At worst he will be a great 6th man that can play 2 or 3 positions.
Traditional that can do some non-traditional thangz. lezzz gooo!!
Double-digit scoring threats off the bench are a good thing.
We haven't had one of those for awhile.
Quote from: Johnny B on April 17, 2026, 04:42:01 PMNah I said Nolan wasn't a great shooter. I meant impact wise Nolan maybe close to katin. idk :/
Keep digging. You've started your weekend 🍹 🍻 early, I see.
Quote from: K1 Lover on April 17, 2026, 02:56:24 PMLet's hope Shaka improves his ball-handling this season. Looking at his stats more, I'm seeing that he can be rather turnover prone. Fortunately, however, he also appears to be a great defensive rebounder.
His TO% was 13.7%. That would have been 2nd best on our team last season after Bem Gold.
He is a good defensive rebounder for a guard
I'm seeing a lot of posts projecting Minessale as the 6th man. Maybe if they decide they want more shooting in the starting lineup. But I would put Riley and Stevens as the 6th man before Minnessale. Dude is good
Quote from: MU82 on April 17, 2026, 05:24:51 PMKeep digging. You've started your weekend 🍹 🍻 early, I see.
Shots fired
Quote from: Johnny B on April 17, 2026, 04:35:52 PMSo? Anyone here honestly say he was an "impact" player. He wasn't bad, just not a needle mover type guy
...as 82 stated...Reinhardt did hit that game winner vs #1 Villanova. Exciting White? Not at that level...but definitely had some nice games for Woj.
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 17, 2026, 05:33:43 PMHis TO% was 13.7%. That would have been 2nd best on our team last season after Bem Gold.
He is a good defensive rebounder for a guard
You spelled Bum wrong.
How does he compare to Max Strus?
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 17, 2026, 05:33:43 PMHis TO% was 13.7%. That would have been 2nd best on our team last season after Bem Gold.
He is a good defensive rebounder for a guard
Question:
What were Tyko's dime numbers on GMU before he donned Marquette gear? Ty.
Quote from: MuggsyB on April 17, 2026, 06:19:36 PMQuestion:
What were Tyko's dime numbers on GMU before he donned Marquette gear? Ty.
His assist rate was 14.0%. His first year at MU it jumped to 34.1%.
Quote from: MuggsyB on April 17, 2026, 06:19:36 PMQuestion:
What were Tyko's dime numbers on GMU before he donned Marquette gear? Ty.
6.9% overall, 4.20% in league play
Quote from: The_Blaze on April 17, 2026, 04:00:23 PMCould Minessale have progressed into a high major rotational player after being recruited by Green Bay, South Dakota and St Thomas out of HS? It's possible as Andrew Rowsey came from the Big South and did well at MU.
But there is already plenty of talent at the 2/3 that he does not clearly look better than - Stevens, DO, Ian, Phillips and Egbuonu. If they are allowed to work him out then have him go against those guys and if he does well then possibly make an offer.
If Minessale was a 5, or a 1 as Riley will be a tough get, that would be a different story.
Huh?
Very funny seeing people pencil in the likes of DO into the starting lineup. Until he shows another level he shouldn't be anywhere near our starting lineup. He just hasn't been good enough.
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 17, 2026, 06:31:46 PMHis assist rate was 14.0%. His first year at MU it jumped to 34.1%.
And what does this tell you?
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 17, 2026, 06:31:46 PMHis assist rate was 14.0%. His first year at MU it jumped to 34.1%.
What this tells me is stats at one Summit school won't tell us everything about NM if he decides to go to MU. All I know about the young man is he scored 19.8 ppg and has 0.0 interest in playing for the Weasel program.
Quote from: Tha Hound on April 17, 2026, 06:35:34 PMHuh?
.
Ty, Hound. I was quite lost on this "analysis".
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 17, 2026, 05:39:13 PMI'm seeing a lot of posts projecting Minessale as the 6th man. Maybe if they decide they want more shooting in the starting lineup. But I would put Riley and Stevens as the 6th man before Minnessale. Dude is good
If MU brings him in at a position (2/3) where there is already plenty of talent then the coaching staff likely does see him as at least a 6th man.
It will be interesting to see if Shaka does offer Minnessale as that will be a transitional move from Shaka's relationship & growth strategy. MU does have immediate needs in this portal (1&5) but a 2/3 is not a need. Exceptions can be made like if a D Wade is available in the portal but this scenario does not fit.
The Badgers have a greater need for Minnessale and likely more playing time available so unless they pick up one or two top 2/3's prior to him, Minnessale may pick the Badgers over MU if offered by both. Good luck to him regardless.
Quote from: The_Blaze on April 17, 2026, 06:52:22 PMIf MU brings him in at a position (2/3) where there is already plenty of talent then the coaching staff likely does see him as at least a 6th man.
It will be interesting to see if Shaka does offer Minnessale as that will be a transitional move from Shaka's relationship & growth strategy. MU does have immediate needs in this portal (1&5) but a 2/3 is not a need. Exceptions can be made like if a D Wade is available in the portal but this scenario does not fit.
The Badgers have a greater need for Minnessale and likely more playing time available so unless they pick up one or two top 2/3's prior to him, Minnessale may pick the Badgers over MU if offered by both. Good luck to him regardless.
Brother
Quote from: The_Blaze on April 17, 2026, 06:52:22 PMIf MU brings him in at a position (2/3) where there is already plenty of talent then the coaching staff likely does see him as at least a 6th man.
It will be interesting to see if Shaka does offer Minnessale as that will be a transitional move from Shaka's relationship & growth strategy. MU does have immediate needs in this portal (1&5) but a 2/3 is not a need. Exceptions can be made like if a D Wade is available in the portal but this scenario does not fit.
The Badgers have a greater need for Minnessale and likely more playing time available so unless they pick up one or two top 2/3's prior to him, Minnessale may pick the Badgers over MU if offered by both. Good luck to him regardless.
What talent do we have at the 2/3 that you think is better than Minessale?
Also it's been said before but worth saying again, Minessale addresses our need at the 1.
Quote from: The_Blaze on April 17, 2026, 06:52:22 PMIf MU brings him in at a position (2/3) where there is already plenty of talent then the coaching staff likely does see him as at least a 6th man.
It will be interesting to see if Shaka does offer Minnessale as that will be a transitional move from Shaka's relationship & growth strategy. MU does have immediate needs in this portal (1&5) but a 2/3 is not a need. Exceptions can be made like if a D Wade is available in the portal but this scenario does not fit.
The Badgers have a greater need for Minnessale and likely more playing time available so unless they pick up one or two top 2/3's prior to him, Minnessale may pick the Badgers over MU if offered by both. Good luck to him regardless.
You be The Blaze-ing up too much wacky tobaccy.
Quote from: mileskishnish72 on April 17, 2026, 11:24:06 AMMinessale has a good neck.
https://x.com/i/status/2045287593655607707
Quote from: The_Blaze on April 17, 2026, 06:52:22 PMIf MU brings him in at a position (2/3) where there is already plenty of talent then the coaching staff likely does see him as at least a 6th man.
It will be interesting to see if Shaka does offer Minnessale as that will be a transitional move from Shaka's relationship & growth strategy. MU does have immediate needs in this portal (1&5) but a 2/3 is not a need. Exceptions can be made like if a D Wade is available in the portal but this scenario does not fit.
The Badgers have a greater need for Minnessale and likely more playing time available so unless they pick up one or two top 2/3's prior to him, Minnessale may pick the Badgers over MU if offered by both. Good luck to him regardless.
You ok, man?
Mines is part of Minessale and that triggered a treasure story?
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 17, 2026, 05:33:43 PMHis TO% was 13.7%. That would have been 2nd best on our team last season after Bem Gold.
He is a good defensive rebounder for a guard
Perhaps I could've been more specific -- my comment was referring to turnover rate while playing against tougher competition, as that was the specific topic being discussed with Rico.
Here's Minessale's assist-to-turnover stats in each of St. Thomas' Q1/Q2 games this season:
@SMC - 2 assists, 4 turnovers
@MTST - 4 assists, 4 turnovers
@NDSU - 6 assists, 7 turnovers
@SEA - 1 assist, 4 turnovers
That said, none of that is meant to be a knock on Minessale. I'm extremely excited about the possibility of him playing for MU and I have no doubt the positives of his game would far outweigh any negatives.
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 17, 2026, 07:07:43 PMWhat talent do we have at the 2/3 that you think is better than Minessale?
Also it's been said before but worth saying again, Minessale addresses our need at the 1.
MU at the 2/3 has Adrien, DO, Phillips, Egbuonu, Ian. Do you think 2 of them (the starters) have less talent and potential?
If the coaching staff thinks so then they may offer.
If Minnessale can play the 1 then his need increases but realistically can he play the point or play it a bit like others?
Quote from: The_Blaze on April 19, 2026, 02:40:29 AMMU at the 2/3 has Adrien, DO, Phillips, Egbuonu, Ian. Do you think 2 of them (the starters) have less talent and potential?
If the coaching staff thinks so then they may offer.
If Minnessale can play the 1 then his need increases but realistically can he play the point or play it a bit like others?
The staff has offered Minessale. He's better than anyone we have at the 3, and he can play the 1 for the 8-10 minutes we'll need in place of Nigel.
Quote from: The_Blaze on April 19, 2026, 02:40:29 AMMU at the 2/3 has Adrien, DO, Phillips, Egbuonu, Ian. Do you think 2 of them (the starters) have less talent and potential?
If the coaching staff thinks so then they may offer.
If Minnessale can play the 1 then his need increases but realistically can he play the point or play it a bit like others?
Talent and potential? Maybe not. A better player right now? Undoubtedly.
And why do you keep posting like the staff isn't yet interested? They have offered. All indications are this is going to happen. If it falls apart now, that will be completely unexpected.
Quote from: K1 Lover on April 17, 2026, 08:13:35 PMPerhaps I could've been more specific -- my comment was referring to turnover rate while playing against tougher competition, as that was the specific topic being discussed with Rico.
Here's Minessale's assist-to-turnover stats in each of St. Thomas' Q1/Q2 games this season:
@SMC - 2 assists, 4 turnovers
@MTST - 4 assists, 4 turnovers
@NDSU - 6 assists, 7 turnovers
@SEA - 1 assist, 4 turnovers
That said, none of that is meant to be a knock on Minessale. I'm extremely excited about the possibility of him playing for MU and I have no doubt the positives of his game would far outweigh any negatives.
I get the concern, but I think it's pretty unfounded. I used to look at similar when it came to low/mid majors playing against kenpom Tier A+B competition. When I saw those guys who were great 90% of the time but seemed to really struggle against better teams, I questioned how they'd do moving up a level.
Then I watched guys like Tristen Newton, Baylor Scheierman, RJ Luis, even our own Andrew Rowsey & Tyler Kolek have poor Tier A+B splits elsewhere then come to the Big East and be awesome.
I think a lot of the time, the guys good enough to go up get most of the defensive focus in those games, which can raise the "are they really ready for this level" question, but when they get to this level and they're no longer the clear best player on the team, that defensive focus diminishes and they get more freedom to show why they were so highly regarded in the first place.
Totally understand where you're coming from, but I got a lot of evals wrong because I zeroed in on what guys did 10% of the time when they their team as a whole was overmatched and not the 90% of the time they were proving they belonged at a higher level.
Quote from: The_Blaze on April 19, 2026, 02:40:29 AMMU at the 2/3 has Adrien, DO, Phillips, Egbuonu, Ian. Do you think 2 of them (the starters) have less talent and potential?
If the coaching staff thinks so then they may offer.
If Minnessale can play the 1 then his need increases but realistically can he play the point or play it a bit like others?
Minessaleb would start over all those players except maybe Adrien.
They may offer?
Minessale led the Tommies is assists and had an assist rate of 25.9% which was 179th in the nation last season. He can run the point.
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 19, 2026, 07:46:17 AMMinessaleb would start over all those players except maybe Adrien.
They may offer?
Minessale led the Tommies is assists and had an assist rate of 25.9% which was 179th in the nation last season. He can run the point.
In one of his games that I watched, he ran the point. Completely ineffective. Moved him off the ball in the second half, let the other back up PG run the show, NM had a great half.
My concerns remain.
Quote from: tower912 on April 19, 2026, 07:56:15 AMIn one of his games that I watched, he ran the point. Completely ineffective. Moved him off the ball in the second half, let the other back up PG run the show, NM had a great half.
My concerns remain.
UGH!!!
Everyone knows that all players are defined by the one game tower watches...
Just like everyone knows they are defined by the pedantic stylings of Sultan and JB.
Eye roll, head shake, right hand pumping motion.
He had a bad half. He had a good half.
The other game I watched most of he was solid throughout.
I want more guard depth.
nm
Quote from: tower912 on April 19, 2026, 08:04:30 AMHe had a bad half. He had a good half.
The other game I watched most of he was solid throughout.
Huh. Imagine that.
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 19, 2026, 07:46:17 AMMinessaleb would start over all those players except maybe Adrien.
They may offer?
Minessale led the Tommies is assists and had an assist rate of 25.9% which was 179th in the nation last season. He can run the point.
Maybe we could get a waiver and re-sign Vander Blue.
Quote from: wadesworld on April 19, 2026, 06:39:36 AMThe staff has offered Minessale. He's better than anyone we have at the 3, and he can play the 1 for the 8-10 minutes we'll need in place of Nigel.
This is where I'm at and I essentially agree with Brew's analysis.
Quote from: tower912 on April 19, 2026, 07:56:15 AMIn one of his games that I watched, he ran the point. Completely ineffective. Moved him off the ball in the second half, let the other back up PG run the show, NM had a great half.
My concerns remain.
Our best player is our point guard. He is going to play 30 minutes every game. We only need someone competent to handle the remaining minutes. NM should be more than capable to contribute there.
Maybe we should form our thoughts on two full seasons worth of stats rather than a single half of basketball, but that could be asking too much.
I think Fru and Minessale are very good additions. At this stage, however, I still see the roster as short on three point shooters and a physical rebounder /defender in the rotation at the 4/5.
Quote from: Zog from Margo on April 19, 2026, 09:38:26 AMI think Fru and Minessale are very good additions. At this stage, however, I still see the roster as short on three point shooters and a physical rebounder /defender in the rotation at the 4/5.
Well we only have 1 more spot open, and Fru is the physical rebounder and defender in rotation at 4/5.
Agreed that we could still use one more guard, and it would be nice if they could hit 3s at a decent clip.
Quote from: brewcity77 on April 19, 2026, 07:44:44 AMI get the concern, but I think it's pretty unfounded. I used to look at similar when it came to low/mid majors playing against kenpom Tier A+B competition. When I saw those guys who were great 90% of the time but seemed to really struggle against better teams, I questioned how they'd do moving up a level.
Then I watched guys like Tristen Newton, Baylor Scheierman, RJ Luis, even our own Andrew Rowsey & Tyler Kolek have poor Tier A+B splits elsewhere then come to the Big East and be awesome.
I think a lot of the time, the guys good enough to go up get most of the defensive focus in those games, which can raise the "are they really ready for this level" question, but when they get to this level and they're no longer the clear best player on the team, that defensive focus diminishes and they get more freedom to show why they were so highly regarded in the first place.
Totally understand where you're coming from, but I got a lot of evals wrong because I zeroed in on what guys did 10% of the time when they their team as a whole was overmatched and not the 90% of the time they were proving they belonged at a higher level.
Great points and I fully agree. While I didn't mention it, I did think of noting that those four game stats might not even be relevant anyway since it's a new team and Shaka will surely have him prepared to play in the Big East. Similar to how Fru will be a different player than he was at Louisville, I expect Minessale will be the same (if we ever get his commitment announcement).
Quote from: Tha Hound on April 19, 2026, 09:55:32 AMWell we only have 1 more spot open, and Fru is the physical rebounder and defender in rotation at 4/5.
Agreed that we could still use one more guard, and it would be nice if they could hit 3s at a decent clip.
Yeah I can't see us adding more size with Fru, Royce, Sheek...and dare I say Caedin and Josh on the roster.
I do think a guard/wing is what should be added. But do they want to add a player who will be around multiple years like Odih? Or would they prefer a senior who can give them a year. No idea who that player would be though.
We are in need of a 3pt shooter, period!
Great post, brew.
Also, now that we got our 5, I agree with tower about guards. Ideally, we'd land both Minessale and someone like Malachi Smith, who left a starting gig at Dayton to become a valuable 16 mpg backup PG for UConn.
UConn also had Ball, Mullins, Demary and Ross to play guard. Why in the world did they need Smith? Well, in addition to giving UConn good guard play when others (especially Demary) needed a rest, he was called on to start 2 NCAA Tournament games when Demary was injured. Pretty sure Hurley was damn glad to have brought him to UConn.
Even with Minessale, next season's Marquette team will have three guards on the roster - only one of whom has been a starting PG - and a bunch of wings. Fingers crossed, maybe Nash, if healthy, can play a little point?
Perhaps a Malachi Smith type doesn't exist in this year's portal. Or if he does, he's too expensive or doesn't want to be a backup for Marquette. But I know I'd feel a lot better with a player like that on the roster.
Quote from: Tha Hound on April 19, 2026, 09:27:13 AMOur best player is our point guard. He is going to play 30 minutes every game. We only need someone competent to handle the remaining minutes. NM should be more than capable to contribute there.
Maybe we should form our thoughts on two full seasons worth of stats rather than a single half of basketball, but that could be asking too much.
He is a well put together kid, scored at three levels and did it all for his team. I hope he comes to MU. I want more guard depth.
Quote from: tower912 on April 19, 2026, 12:17:27 PMHe is a well put together kid, scored at three levels and did it all for his team. I hope he comes to MU. I want more guard depth.
Agreed
#NoMoreGuards
but Tower is concerned... the concern level maybe as high as MU not serving hot dogs at their scrimmages...
Quote from: Jay Bee on April 19, 2026, 02:31:00 PM#NoMoreGuards
The Athletic's CJ Moore selected Fru as one of the five best transfer-portal "fits" into his new team's scheme, saying: "These are not necessarily the best prospects, but the players who fit a need and also went to programs where they're likely set up to excel. These five portal marriages should lead to happiness for both parties."
Of Fru to MU, he wrote:
Marquette's two best offensive years under Shaka Smart were when Smart unleashed center Oso Ighodaro as a playmaker.
Smart finally went portal shopping this year after a down year and found what could be his next Ighodaro in Fru, who shows the flashes on tape with similar athleticism and advanced numbers as Ighodaro before his junior year explosion.
Ighodaro had the freedom to bring the ball up because of his ballhandling. That's probably the biggest question mark with whether Fru can be used similarly, but there is proof of him looking capable of putting it on the floor.
Fru can make the type of passes that Ighodaro made for Marquette, whether it was feeding cutters or a quick-connecting dribble-handoff.
One of Smart's greatest strengths is empowering his players to grow their games. It's one reason he bet on development over hitting the portal every year. If he can pull off something similar with a portal player in Fru, then Marquette could find itself back in the NCAA Tournament.
The other four named were Ty'Reek Coleman (Iowa), David Punch (Texas), J.P. Estrella (Michigan) and Sam Orme (Nebraska).
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/7263088/2026/05/08/college-basketball-transfer-portal-fits-analysis/
Gonna be a beast here
Quote from: MU82 on May 11, 2026, 02:54:57 PMThe Athletic's CJ Moore selected Fru as one of the five best transfer-portal "fits" into his new team's scheme, saying: "These are not necessarily the best prospects, but the players who fit a need and also went to programs where they're likely set up to excel. These five portal marriages should lead to happiness for both parties."
Of Fru to MU, he wrote:
Marquette's two best offensive years under Shaka Smart were when Smart unleashed center Oso Ighodaro as a playmaker.
Smart finally went portal shopping this year after a down year and found what could be his next Ighodaro in Fru, who shows the flashes on tape with similar athleticism and advanced numbers as Ighodaro before his junior year explosion.
Ighodaro had the freedom to bring the ball up because of his ballhandling. That's probably the biggest question mark with whether Fru can be used similarly, but there is proof of him looking capable of putting it on the floor.
Fru can make the type of passes that Ighodaro made for Marquette, whether it was feeding cutters or a quick-connecting dribble-handoff.
One of Smart's greatest strengths is empowering his players to grow their games. It's one reason he bet on development over hitting the portal every year. If he can pull off something similar with a portal player in Fru, then Marquette could find itself back in the NCAA Tournament.
The other four named were Ty'Reek Coleman (Iowa), David Punch (Texas), J.P. Estrella (Michigan) and Sam Orme (Nebraska).
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/7263088/2026/05/08/college-basketball-transfer-portal-fits-analysis/
Nigel James being the Kolek in the comparison?
Quote from: NCMUFan on May 11, 2026, 06:45:45 PMNigel James being the Kolek in the comparison?
Not saying this will be the case, but Nigel is on track to being even better than Kolek with that freshman season. Nigel was a solid distributor last season and should improve on his 4.9 assists per game. With Fru's impressive efficiency and Nigel becoming an even better passer, this duo could be as effective as Kolek/Ighodaro if everything falls into place.
The rest of the rotation of Royce, Adrien, Minessale, Owens, MPIII, and Alex could be as productive as Kam/Jop/Stevie/Chase/Gold. I'm not sure where the offensive production of Kam Jones would come from in that group (maybe Minessale?) but they will be considerably more athletic.
James and Kolek play PG differently. Each is/was great for Marquette in his own way. The exciting part is that James is now only entering his sophomore season and figures to get even better. Kolek arrived at MU for his sophomore season and faced a serious learning curve; it took him an entire year at the major-college level to become a great PG.
Quote from: MU82 on May 12, 2026, 11:14:46 AMJames and Kolek play PG differently. Each is/was great for Marquette in his own way. The exciting part is that James is now only entering his sophomore season and figures to get even better. Kolek arrived at MU for his sophomore season and faced a serious learning curve; it took him an entire year at the major-college level to become a great PG.
Totally. We won't know how they'll stack up until Nigel's time at MU is over (hopefully not for a few years) but him and Adrien are starting their upward trend earlier than most of Shaka's best players
Quote from: MU82 on May 12, 2026, 11:14:46 AMJames and Kolek play PG differently. Each is/was great for Marquette in his own way. The exciting part is that James is now only entering his sophomore season and figures to get even better. Kolek arrived at MU for his sophomore season and faced a serious learning curve; it took him an entire year at the major-college level to become a great PG.
Nigel can now deploy the lethal lob that will lead to Fru hammer flushes. It changes everything. We had ZERO lob or interior threat. With Fru, the Geometry of the offense changes. We will get far better perimeter shots. Remember, Nigel can blow by his primary defender at will. The opportunities will be endless, we just need to drill all of these wide open looks. And, I fully expect Nigel to come back with a far more consistent J. That bodes extremely well for MU. We will be dangerous offensively.
Quote from: MuggsyB on May 12, 2026, 07:16:48 PMThe opportunities will be endless, we just need to drill all of these wide open looks.
While I'm excited to see what Fru will bring MU on both ends on the court, including the lob game with James, getting open looks was not a big problem last season. Drilling them was the problem, one not even our dentists could solve.
Here's hoping our team improves its shooting.
Quote from: MU82 on May 12, 2026, 08:13:47 PMWhile I'm excited to see what Fru will bring MU on both ends on the court, including the lob game with James, getting open looks was not a big problem last season. Drilling them was the problem, one not even our dentists could solve.
Here's hoping our team improves its shooting.
Oh...no doubt. But don't forget we had truly disastrous results from certain players that have moved on. I think we will be much more potent offensively, with multiple guys that can take full advantage of the spot triple.
I actually think RP is going to benefit the most with our new line-up. And he was really good to close last season.
Fru was the number one target for a reason. I think the chemisty between Nigel and Fru may determine our ceiling next season.
Nigel throwing lobs to Fru is a very enticing thought.
https://x.com/bensteelemjs/status/2054677539029660101?s=61
Love it! Will be fun to watch Fru and Nigel.
Hot Fru content:
https://x.com/marquettembb/status/2061598245722218873?s=46
Quote from: TallTitan34 on Today at 07:49:36 PMHot Fru content:
https://x.com/marquettembb/status/2061598245722218873?s=46
Ian with the double dribble.
And Nash playing.
Quote from: wadesworld on Today at 08:11:29 PMAnd Nash playing.
And Ethan Johnson looks like he's grown. A lot.