Our long national nightmare is over. The winter of our discontent has ended.
May we never see its like again.
May the program overseers be blessed with the wisdom and fortitude to realize the shortcomings and undertake appropriate action to prevent a recurrence of this debacle.
Marquette is NOT a name that should be associated with basketball of poor quality!
We got the core, but we need more.
We'll likely get a good read on next year's prospects by June. Shaka let's see
whatcha got.
Thank goodness
Bury it and never speak of it again. Rid the roster of the BS and cook in the portal.
Do your job, staff.
Quote from: mileskishnish72 on Today at 07:50:02 PMOur long national nightmare is over. The winter of our discontent has ended.
May we never see its like again.
May the program overseers be blessed with the wisdom and fortitude to realize the shortcomings and undertake appropriate action to prevent a recurrence of this debacle.
Marquette is NOT a name that should be associated with basketball of poor quality!
We got the core, but we need more.
We'll likely get a good read on next year's prospects by June. Shaka let's see
whatcha got.
The season is on Shaka and his poor recruiting. Time to correct those mistakes by clearing space and bringing in some guys who can shoot and know how to play. Jones, Norman, Hamilton should all be gone. They aren't BE players. DO might fall in that group too. Give Clark one more season to prove he belongs.
Put out of our misery.
Yes a total disgrace. This team has no discipline and is very poorly coached.
Bring in 2-3 key players and we could be good
Shaka gets paid a LOT of $$&. Now he needs to do some things he's not comfortable with to prove to the fanbase he deserves to continue making large bank deposits. Go get it done!!!
Disappointed. I wanted another game tomorrow night.
Shaka is not bringing in any additional shooters.....
MP, Nash, and Ian will be given every chance to be the "shooter".
Rough season. Didn't feel apathetic at all and excited for the next game in November.
...and so the most consequential off season, moving forward, begins.
The portal opens April 7. I hope Shaka has gotten rid of the deadwood by then and can go to work finding basketball players.
Add a starting 5, a starting wing, and combo guard willing to come off the bench and this is a tourney team next season.
Quote from: We R Final Four on Today at 08:02:08 PMShaka is not bringing in any additional shooters.....
MP, Nash, and Ian will be given every chance to be the "shooter".
Need shooters from all five spots if you run an offense with no inside scorers. That's what MU plays. The roster make-up this year was a complete mismatch.
Quote from: Zog from Margo on Today at 07:54:44 PMThe season is on Shaka and his poor recruiting.
#FakeNews #Lies
Stop this. It's also on his stupid effin decisions with personnel deployment.
Quote from: mileskishnish72 on Today at 08:03:47 PMThe portal opens April 7. I hope Shaka has gotten rid of the deadwood by then and can go to work finding basketball players.
The portal is open now.
Quote from: We R Final Four on Today at 08:02:08 PMShaka is not bringing in any additional shooters.....
MP, Nash, and Ian will be given every chance to be the "shooter".
Any chance he changes his mind since the last time you sat down with him to discuss the roster?
Want to give Phillips a shout out. His best game of the year at MSG gives some nice momentum for the offseason.
Strange, unique feeling for this time of the year as MU fan. Usually getting ready, excited for multiple games in conference tournament. And hoping for deep run in ncaa. A lot of great discussions w fellow Marquette fans about our chances.
This year, glad this hell is over and looking forward to significant roster turnover. No discussions about the team or positivity heading into ncaa.
Praying shaka understands how important the next few weeks are regarding the university, team, fanbase, and his career.
This game shows why Caedin and tre need to leave. Totally out of their depth at this level. Josh gone too. Sean out.
5 spots to fill. Need to replace starters production from chase and Ben as well as adding bench depth. We saw it today there is absolutely nothing beyond this starting 5. If we want to be a competitive tournament next year, we need an overhaul.
Quote from: WhiteTrash on Today at 08:05:54 PMAny chance he changes his mind since the last time you sat down with him to discuss the roster?
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Quote from: WhiteTrash on Today at 08:05:54 PMAny chance he changes his mind since the last time you sat down with him to discuss the roster?
No....just need to pay attention to what he says. Those three will be here this summer....and shooting.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on Today at 08:04:46 PMAdd a starting 5, a starting wing, and combo guard willing to come off the bench and this is a tourney team next season.
This reminds me of my old softball teams, when the season would end.
"If we could find a good shortstop and 3rd baseman, we could be good next year. Ok, and a left fielder. We need a good 2nd baseman too. Throw in a good center fielder and yeah, we'd really be competitive."
Just like the Red Sox had the Curse of the Bambino, and the Cubs had the curse of the Billy Goat, Marquette had the curse of the Dentists. Banning the dentists caused this season to go tits up.
Bring back the dentists.
Quote from: MurphysTillClose on Today at 07:54:36 PMBury it and never speak of it again. Rid the roster of the BS and cook in the portal.
Do your job, staff.
It will be spoken of again and plenty. This season has been totally unacceptable, all in Shaka
His ass better be moving to get better talent because right now this team honks.
Quote from: panda on Today at 08:11:57 PMThis game shows why Caedin and tre need to leave. Totally out of their depth at this level. Josh gone too. Sean out.
5 spots to fill. Need to replace starters production from chase and Ben as well as adding bench depth. We saw it today there is absolutely nothing beyond this starting 5. If we want to be a competitive tournament next year, we need an overhaul.
Replacing Golds production should be a piece of cake
Quote from: willie warrior on Today at 08:27:09 PMReplacing Golds production should be a piece of cake
nooooooo. Everyone's telling me how good Ben Gold was. He'll never be matched.
So glad I don't have to watch Gold play anymore. I really hope I don't have to watch Hamilton, Norman or Jones play for my favorite team again.
James, Stevens, Parham seem like nice pieces. Remains to be seen if they can win games.
Worst year I've seen since I started following MUBB in the late Deane era. Good riddance .
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on Today at 08:22:25 PMThis reminds me of my old softball teams, when the season would end.
"If we could find a good shortstop and 3rd baseman, we could be good next year. Ok, and a left fielder. We need a good 2nd baseman too. Throw in a good center fielder and yeah, we'd really be competitive."
Now now, this is pretty much what's going to happen every off-season now. Teams that were great last year might be awful, and teams that were awful might be great.
It's the wild west, and Marquette sat out. Then we got Ben as our center.
The saving grace to a first round exit is it gives the staff extra time in advance of the portal opening in a few weeks.
I wouldn't be surprised if there was some assistant coach changes before that too.
Quote from: TFlegend on Today at 08:29:48 PMSo glad I don't have to watch Gold play anymore. I really hope I don't have to watch Hamilton, Norman or Jones play for my favorite team again.
James, Stevens, Parham seem like nice pieces. Remains to be seen if they can win games.
Worst year I've seen since I started following MUBB in the late Deane era. Good riddance .
Ya gotta give owens another year as well. Ended up being one of the better players.
Golden - don't hold your breath
He's won't make any staff changes, and at best he's going to add two guys from the
Portal.
He LUVS Caedin, he's not going to bounce
Tre. He won't.
Unfortunately, the UCONN game will bolster his hubris, and he will convince himself that if he yells RGV just a bit louder all will be fine.
Quote from: Mu8891 on Today at 08:37:23 PMGolden - don't hold your breath
He's won't make any staff changes, and at best he's going to add two guys from the
Portal.
He LUVS Caedin, he's not going to bounce
Tre. He won't.
Unfortunately, the UCONN game will bolster his hubris, and he will convince himself that if he yells RGV just a bit louder all will be fine.
Man this place gets WILD after losses.
Quote from: The Sultan on Today at 08:42:56 PMMan this place gets WILD after losses.
After 20 losses *
Quote from: #UnleashJosh on Today at 08:43:52 PMAfter 20 losses *
Which is why Shaka is changing his approach. Yet we have multiple posters claiming that beating UConn means he will just stick with what's he's been doing.
That's not happening. No one, especially those who write the checks, thinks a UConn win erases a 20 loss season.
Quote from: Mu8891 on Today at 08:37:23 PMGolden - don't hold your breath
He's won't make any staff changes, and at best he's going to add two guys from the
Portal.
He LUVS Caedin, he's not going to bounce
Tre. He won't.
Unfortunately, the UCONN game will bolster his hubris, and he will convince himself that if he yells RGV just a bit louder all will be fine.
If you can see the future why are you wasting your time on Scoop?
Quote from: lawdog77 on Today at 08:23:55 PMJust like the Red Sox had the Curse of the Bambino, and the Cubs had the curse of the Billy Goat, Marquette had the curse of the Dentists. Banning the dentists caused this season to go tits up.
Bring back the dentists.
No.
Quote from: The Sultan on Today at 08:46:11 PMWhich is why Shaka is changing his approach. Yet we have multiple posters claiming that beating UConn means he will just stick with what's he's been doing.
That's not happening. No one, especially those who write the checks, thinks a UConn win erases a 20 loss season.
What does my quote have to do with like 90% of your statement
Quote from: Mu8891 on Today at 08:37:23 PMGolden - don't hold your breath
He's won't make any staff changes, and at best he's going to add two guys from the
Portal.
He LUVS Caedin, he's not going to bounce
Tre. He won't.
Unfortunately, the UCONN game will bolster his hubris, and he will convince himself that if he yells RGV just a bit louder all will be fine.
Did Shaka piss on you cornflakes? Lotta anger for him.
What many are missing here is the poor performance is coupled with a horrible big east this season. We could barely keep the pace against other bad teams. If this was a season with typically competent providence, creighton etc. We would've looked much worse. Need a ton of help to get back to where we need to be.
Quote from: panda on Today at 08:53:46 PMWhat many are missing here is the poor performance is coupled with a horrible big east this season. We could barely keep the pace against other bad teams. If this was a season with typically competent providence, creighton etc. We would've looked much worse. Need a ton of help to get back to where we need to be.
Kick'n us when we are down? Keep your facts to yourself. :(
Quote from: mileskishnish72 on Today at 08:03:47 PMThe portal opens April 7. I hope Shaka has gotten rid of the deadwood by then and can go to work finding basketball players.
u think hes kicking 3 guys off the roster within the next month?
Quote from: Johnny B on Today at 09:01:10 PMu think hes kicking 3 guys off the roster within the next month?
The MU proxies have been working the pre-portal for weeks already. Now, they can watch their targets play in real-time. There's currently two spots that can be filled in the portal: Lowery and Sean Jones. If they're able to land a 3rd or 4th, then Norman/Hamilton/Owens/Clark get bumped. Life in the real world.
Quote from: Johnny B on Today at 09:01:10 PMu think hes kicking 3 guys off the roster within the next month?
I think it is possible, but he doesn't have to 'kick' them off the roster, he just has to be honest with them and they may see better opportunities elsewhere.
Quote from: Johnny B on Today at 09:01:10 PMu think hes kicking 3 guys off the roster within the next month?
I hope its more!
Quote from: panda on Today at 08:53:46 PMWhat many are missing here is the poor performance is coupled with a horrible big east this season. We could barely keep the pace against other bad teams. If this was a season with typically competent providence, creighton etc. We would've looked much worse. Need a ton of help to get back to where we need to be.
What do you mean.... Our team doesn't suck anymore, because - Checks notes - We lost to Villanova away, but it was close!
Quote from: #UnleashThePortal on Today at 09:20:46 PMWhat do you mean.... Our team doesn't suck anymore, because - Checks notes - We lost to Villanova away, but it was close!
Bubble team
Quote from: panda on Today at 08:11:57 PMThis game shows why Caedin and tre need to leave. Totally out of their depth at this level. Josh gone too. Sean out.
5 spots to fill. Need to replace starters production from chase and Ben as well as adding bench depth. We saw it today there is absolutely nothing beyond this starting 5. If we want to be a competitive tournament next year, we need an overhaul.
Pretty interesting ending to the press conference. Steele asked about the roster for next year. Shaka mentioned Phillips, Owens and the 3 redshirts... that was it. 2 newcomers and the big 3 are obvious. You might end up right here.
Quote from: CountryRoads on Today at 09:22:15 PMPretty interesting ending to the press conference. Steele asked about the roster for next year. Shaka mentioned Phillips, Owens and the 3 redshirts... that was it. 2 newcomers and the big 3 are obvious. You might end up right here.
Of the players who played minutes for Marquette and will HOPEFULLY be back next season are...
1. Nigel
2. Parham
3. Stevens
4. Phillips
5. Damarius
I'll give Clark another year, if people want Norman to stay to be a "glue" bench piece, than I want a 7'1 guy who has a chance at doing something.
Maybe we will finally strike gold (hehe) with a down under player in Nash. That part of the globe has not been kind for Marquette.
Quote from: The Sultan on Today at 08:42:56 PMMan this place gets WILD after losses.
...and we'll be a NCAA tournament team after we win a game if we keep 3 guys and go to the portal without even knowing who those players will be.
Quote from: panda on Today at 09:21:14 PMBubble team
I'll be watching and hoping next Sunday. The advanced stats are in our favor. I have a good feeling.
U guys can mock or dis my predictions all you want. Man up and make your own...
I don't think SS adds more than two guys.
Period.
U all want to believe he will boot Tre and Caedin and maybe Clark. He won't.
Just watch ...
Quote from: Mu8891 on Today at 09:37:55 PMU guys can mock or dis my predictions all you want. Man up and make your own...
I don't think SS adds more than two guys.
Period.
U all want to believe he will boot Tre and Caedin and maybe Clark. He won't.
Just watch ...
Bigger fear is he uses the wrong guys again like he did this year. Pure insanity
Quote from: Mu8891 on Today at 09:37:55 PMU guys can mock or dis my predictions all you want. Man up and make your own...
I don't think SS adds more than two guys.
Period.
U all want to believe he will boot Tre and Caedin and maybe Clark. He won't.
Just watch ...
It is a fact that you are the only one to make a prediction for MU's portal activity all season on Scoop. People need to 'man up'. ::) ::)
Quote from: Mu8891 on Today at 09:37:55 PMU guys can mock or dis my predictions all you want. Man up and make your own...
I don't think SS adds more than two guys.
Period.
U all want to believe he will boot Tre and Caedin and maybe Clark. He won't.
Just watch ...
I think you may be right but it depresses me.
Quote from: The Sultan on Today at 08:46:11 PMWhich is why Shaka is changing his approach. Yet we have multiple posters claiming that beating UConn means he will just stick with what's he's been doing.
That's not happening. No one, especially those who write the checks, thinks a UConn win erases a 20 loss season.
Who are these guys who write the checks anyway? They certainly are not getting the bang for the buck.
Quote from: Zog from Margo on Today at 07:54:44 PMThe season is on Shaka and his poor recruiting. Time to correct those mistakes by clearing space and bringing in some guys who can shoot and know how to play. Jones, Norman, Hamilton should all be gone. They aren't BE players. DO might fall in that group too. Give Clark one more season to prove he belongs.
DO might fall into the group that should be gone, but Clark deserves one more season? What team have you been watching?
Quote from: muwarrior69 on Today at 09:43:37 PMWho are these guys who write the checks anyway? They certainly are not getting the bang for the buck.
I know with 100% certainty Shaka has turned down a bag drop from a high rolling donor to go into the portal. Assuming it's happened on more than one occasion then it becomes more about the opportune cost of what those who write checks could be writing.
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on Today at 10:12:26 PMDO might fall into the group that should be gone, but Clark deserves one more season? What team have you been watching?
If I had to choose, I'd keep Clark over Hamilton because he has more runway, but the fact he basically hasn't seen the court for two months isn't terribly promising.
Quote from: Pakuni on Today at 10:59:19 PMIf I had to choose, I'd keep Clark over Hamilton because he has more runway, but the fact he basically hasn't seen the court for two months isn't terribly promising.
Agree. But yes, it boggles the mind that somehow Clark showed so little as to be nailed to the bench by Hamilton.
(Or, in one of the rare instances the I agree with Bee Jay, Shaka's choice of rotations was abysmal for too much of the year.)