MU may in fact shock the world and punk UCONN tomorrow. I get the chances are slim, but they're not none. UCONN has been very inconsistent. Again, it's very unlikely. But it's probably in the 18-20% chance range as opposed to 0.0. They're not worldbeaters. My personal opinion is they're closer to a 25-30 team than top 5. Fk' em. It's doable.
It will be impossible. MU hasnt come close to beating a ranked team , even a just out of the top 25 team, this season.
Quote from: MU24 on Today at 07:26:13 PMIt will be impossible. MU hasnt come close to beating a ranked team , even a just out of the top 25 team, this season.
That doesn't concern me. We also were up 30 on Creighton at the half. :)
We also could have beaten St.J.
Quote from: MU24 on Today at 07:26:13 PMIt will be impossible. MU hasnt come close to beating a ranked team , even a just out of the top 25 team, this season.
Literally played St. John's very tough recently.
Quote from: MuggsyB on Today at 07:35:04 PMWe also could have beaten St.J.
Coulda shoulda woulda
if.... But DIDN'T.
Providence coulda shoulda woulda won in Milwaukee
if.... But DIDN'T.
And your favorite-Valpo, which, if I recall, you repeatedly said Valpo should have won.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on Today at 08:13:50 PMCoulda shoulda woulda if.... But DIDN'T.
Providence coulda shoulda woulda won in Milwaukee if.... But DIDN'T.
And your favorite-Valpo, which, if I recall, you repeatedly said Valpo should have won.
Did you miss the comment he was responding to?
Quote from: MuggsyB on Today at 07:07:37 PMMU may in fact shock the world and punk UCONN tomorrow. I get the chances are slim, but they're not none. UCONN has been very inconsistent. Again, it's very unlikely. But it's probably in the 18-20% chance range as opposed to 0.0. They're not worldbeaters. My personal opinion is they're closer to a 25-30 team than top 5. Fk' em. It's doable.
They are much closer to a top 5 team than a 25-30 team. They're not as good as their title teams, but they're no doubt a top 10 team. They almost beat Arizona without Reed, won at Kansas, and beat Illinois and Florida on neutral courts.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on Today at 08:13:50 PMCoulda shoulda woulda if.... But DIDN'T.
Providence coulda shoulda woulda won in Milwaukee if.... But DIDN'T.
And your favorite-Valpo, which, if I recall, you repeatedly said Valpo should have won.
Valpo should have won. My point is UCONN is not a juggernaut. Creighton beat them soundly at UCONN. Again, it will be difficult, but not impossible. I would also consider playing all of our guys and implementing the Hack-a-Reed strategy if necessary. I think everyone needs to calm down. We won't be facing SGA, Curry, Jokic, Wemby, and Cade Cunningham.
Quote from: wadesworld on Today at 08:23:10 PMThey are much closer to a top 5 team than a 25-30 team. They're not as good as their title teams, but they're no doubt a top 10 team. They almost beat Arizona without Reed, won at Kansas, and beat Illinois and Florida on neutral courts.
Arizona had key players out if memory serves and they were at home. They also absolutely should have lost to Providence at home. This is a smoke and mirrors team. They won't advance past the S16 IMHO.
Quote from: MuggsyB on Today at 08:27:26 PMArizona had key players out if memory serves and they were at home.
It was UConn that was down two starters in that game. Tarris Reed & Braylon Mullins were out. Every rotation player for Arizona played.
Quote from: brewcity77 on Today at 08:34:51 PMIt was UConn that was down two starters in that game. Tarris Reed & Braylon Mullins were out. Every rotation player for Arizona played.
Okay. I was wrong. But have they beaten anyone great since Dec? I watched the Hall and Prov play them to the wire. All I'm saying Brew is that they can be taken out.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on Today at 08:19:57 PMDid you miss the comment he was responding to?
Nope. I know it is more fun to fantasize about games we coulda shoulda woulda won if if if. Or that PC shoulda beat UCONN.
Now is it possible that we upset UCONN? Sure. But saying that you think UCONN is a top 25-30 "smoke and mirrors" team? Wow!
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on Today at 08:41:55 PMNope. I know it is more fun to fantasize about games we coulda shoulda woulda won if if if. Or that PC shoulda beat UCONN.
Now is it possible that we upset UCONN? Sure. But saying that you think UCONN is a top 25-30 "smoke and mirrors" team? Wow!
They've looked very beatable to me but I will acknowledge that I'm biased.
Quote from: MuggsyB on Today at 08:45:32 PMThey've looked very beatable to me but I will acknowledge that I'm biased.
That works.
Quote from: MuggsyB on Today at 08:39:53 PMOkay. I was wrong. But have they beaten anyone great since Dec? I watched the Hall and Prov play them to the wire. All I'm saying Brew is that they can be taken out.
They haven't played anyone great since December. They're still 14-2 in that time.
UConn isn't Duke, Michigan, or Arizona, but they could absolutely beat those teams on the right night. They are clearly a top-10 team and in the mix to win the national title.
Anyone can be taken out. But if we played them 10 times they'd probably win 9. We just have to hope 10 is tomorrow.
Quote from: brewcity77 on Today at 08:49:00 PMThey haven't played anyone great since December. They're still 14-2 in that time.
UConn isn't Duke, Michigan, or Arizona, but they could absolutely beat those teams on the right night. They are clearly a top-10 team and in the mix to win the national title.
Anyone can be taken out. But if we played them 10 times they'd probably win 9. We just have to hope 10 is tomorrow.
That's fair. Ty, Brew.
Vegas is currently giving MU roughly a 24% chance.
Quote from: Pakuni on Today at 08:54:09 PMVegas is currently giving MU roughly a 24% chance.
Nice!
Quote from: MuggsyB on Today at 08:45:32 PMThey've looked very beatable to me but I will acknowledge that I'm biased.
They are absolutely beatable at home. Don't let any clown on here say it can't happen. I'd say 10-15 percent chance.
Quote from: MuggsyB on Today at 08:27:26 PMArizona had key players out if memory serves and they were at home. They also absolutely should have lost to Providence at home. This is a smoke and mirrors team. They won't advance past the S16 IMHO.
Arizona is smoke and mirrors? What are you smoking?
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on Today at 07:49:08 PMLiterally played St. John's very tough recently.
And Nova twice if we're counting just out of top 25
Quote from: Johnny B on Today at 09:04:14 PMThey are absolutely beatable at home. Don't let any clown on here say it can't happen. I'd say 10-15 percent chance.
ESPN analytics has Marquette's chances at 17.1% Currently, UCONN is favored by 8.5 (opened at 9.5).
Of course it can happen. It's just that some of us-me being one-realize that it is unlikely. And I will add that I would absolutely
love to be proven wrong in my expectations that UCONN will win. If Marquette wins, it will be a
huge upset rather than being a case of UCONN being exposed as not as good as their ranking.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on Today at 10:01:07 PMESPN analytics has Marquette's chances at 17.1% Currently, UCONN is favored by 8.5.
Of course it can happen. It's just that some of us-me being one-realize that it is unlikely. And I will add that I would absolutely love to be proven wrong in my expectations that UCONN will win. If Marquette wins, it will be a huge upset rather than being a case of UCONN being exposed as not as good as their ranking.
Did I not say it is unlikely?? 17% is not impossible. The question is will we see our A game a la Creighton (up 30 at the half) or that debacle last Saturday?
Quote from: 79Warrior on Today at 09:21:28 PMArizona is smoke and mirrors? What are you smoking?
I was referring to UCONN, not Zona.
Quote from: MuggsyB on Today at 10:06:42 PMDid I not say it is unlikely?? 17% is not impossible. The question is will we see our A game a la Creighton (up 30 at the half) or that debacle last Saturday?
Muggsy, you have
GOT to lay off the caffeine so late in the day.
I said unlikely. Take a deep breath and try to carefully read and understand what other posters are saying.
Oh...
I understood that you were referring to UCONN, not Arizona, as "smoke and mirrors". And I disagree.
We are all hoping for an upset. It would even be more satisfying if Hurley gets ejected.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on Today at 10:14:37 PMMuggsy, you have GOT to lay off the caffeine so late in the day. I said unlikely. Take a deep breath and try to carefully read and understand what other posters are saying.
Oh...I understood that you were referring to UCONN, not Arizona, as "smoke and mirrors". And I disagree.
We are all hoping for an upset. It would even be more satisfying if Hurley gets ejected.
Caffeine isn't an issue for me at all.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on Today at 08:41:55 PMNope. I know it is more fun to fantasize about games we coulda shoulda woulda won if if if. Or that PC shoulda beat UCONN.
Now is it possible that we upset UCONN? Sure. But saying that you think UCONN is a top 25-30 "smoke and mirrors" team? Wow!
He was responding to someone that said Marquette has 0 chance to win tomorrow because they haven't played a top 25 team close all season.
Objectively false. That's the point.