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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: The Lens on March 05, 2026, 08:23:13 AM

Title: Tie breaks
Post by: The Lens on March 05, 2026, 08:23:13 AM
To the naked eye it appears we could finish anywhere from 7th-11th.  In my head we need a loss on Saturday bc we want to save that UConn win for NYC.

So let's assume we finish 6-14...

Georgetown is 5-14 but they host PC so they could win and end up 6-14

X plays Nova, they should lose and end up at 6-14

Anyone know what a 3 way tie looks like?
Title: Re: Tie brealks
Post by: The Sultan on March 05, 2026, 08:27:18 AM
Quote from: The Lens on March 05, 2026, 08:23:13 AMTo the naked eye it appears we could finish anywhere from 7th-11th.  In my head we need a loss on Saturday bc we want to save that UConn win for NYC.

So let's assume we finish 6-14...

Georgetown is 5-14 but they host PC so they could win and end up 6-14

X plays Nova, they should lose and end up at 6-14

Anyone know what a 3 way tie looks like?



https://www.bigeast.com/documents/2025/2/18//tiebreakers.pdf
Title: Re: Tie brealks
Post by: 18thandWells on March 05, 2026, 08:31:42 AM
Quote from: The Lens on March 05, 2026, 08:23:13 AMAnyone know what a 3 way tie looks like?
Sad. A 6-14 three-way tie looks sad.
Title: Re: Tie brealks
Post by: The Lens on March 05, 2026, 08:50:18 AM
Quote from: 18thandWells on March 05, 2026, 08:31:42 AMSad. A 6-14 three-way tie looks sad.

Quote from: The Sultan on March 05, 2026, 08:27:18 AMhttps://www.bigeast.com/documents/2025/2/18//tiebreakers.pdf

Thanks dad. Got a 404 message.

Title: Re: Tie brealks
Post by: GoldenWarrior11 on March 05, 2026, 08:55:47 AM
Over half the league will have a losing record this year.  Worst season for BE since realignment.

The coaching staffs and athletic departments need to have some serious and tough conversations about spending, especially since BE programs can spend more of their NIL allotment than some of their P4 peers who have to spend on football.

It's not about spending more.  It's about spending better.
Title: Re: Tie brealks
Post by: The Equalizer on March 05, 2026, 09:04:03 AM
Quote from: The Lens on March 05, 2026, 08:50:18 AMThanks dad. Got a 404 message.

There was an extra slash before "tiebreakers". 

https://www.bigeast.com/documents/2025/2/18/tiebreakers.pdf (https://www.bigeast.com/documents/2025/2/18/tiebreakers.pdf)

In the specific example (3 way tie between X, MU, and Georgetown), I believe seedings for the BET would fall out this way:

9th seed: X has a 3-1 record (Beat GU twice, split with MU)
10th seed: MU has a 2-2 record (split both GU and X)
11th seed: GU has a 1-3 record (Lost to X twice, split with MU)

In terms of conference standings, all three teams would simply tie for 9th place.  The tiebreaker is only used for seeding.
Title: Re: Tie brealks
Post by: SchnitzelBoy on March 05, 2026, 09:20:50 AM
Spending didn't save PC this season... Not that Marquette shouldn't spend some $$$ this spring. The Providence HC position is reportedly already open. Georgetown, and Butler will have coaching changes in the next 12 months.

If Seton Hall and Villanova (big if) can maintain their momentum into next season and Creighton + Marquette return to form (not a stretch) then the conference will be in a much better place.

Hot take: Big East gets 6 teams into the field next season.
Title: Re: Tie brealks
Post by: Warriors4ever on March 05, 2026, 09:23:32 AM
It's possible that Butler could also be 6-14, correct? They play DePaul on Saturday. Which could mean a very sad four-way tie.
Title: Re: Tie brealks
Post by: 1SE on March 05, 2026, 09:27:59 AM
I mean certainly much worse to be the 9 than 10 or 11 right?
Title: Re: Tie brealks
Post by: willie warrior on March 05, 2026, 09:34:08 AM
Quote from: The Lens on March 05, 2026, 08:23:13 AMTo the naked eye it appears we could finish anywhere from 7th-11th.  In my head we need a loss on Saturday bc we want to save that UConn win for NYC.

So let's assume we finish 6-14...

Georgetown is 5-14 but they host PC so they could win and end up 6-14

X plays Nova, they should lose and end up at 6-14

Anyone know what a 3 way tie looks like?

Rejoice. We might end up in a 3 way tie for last in conference. hang a banner.
Title: Re: Tie brealks
Post by: wadesworld on March 05, 2026, 10:46:23 AM
Quote from: 1SE on March 05, 2026, 09:27:59 AMI mean certainly much worse to be the 9 than 10 or 11 right?

Shaka's loser tax should go down if we're 9 instead of 10 or 11.
Title: Re: Tie brealks
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on March 05, 2026, 11:11:44 AM
Quote from: The Lens on March 05, 2026, 08:23:13 AMTo the naked eye it appears we could finish anywhere from 7th-11th.  In my head we need a loss on Saturday bc we want to save that UConn win for NYC.

So let's assume we finish 6-14...

Georgetown is 5-14 but they host PC so they could win and end up 6-14

X plays Nova, they should lose and end up at 6-14

Anyone know what a 3 way tie looks like?

NM Saw Butler was already mentioned
Title: Re: Tie brealks
Post by: Jay Bee on March 05, 2026, 11:47:20 AM
4 way tie looks reasonably likely. Changes errr'thang
Title: Re: Tie brealks
Post by: wisblue on March 05, 2026, 02:14:42 PM
https://bball.notnothing.net/bracket_cloud.php?conf=bigeastm

With 5 games on Saturday there are 32 possible results. This site would allow you to try any possible combination of results of the Saturday games to see how the seeding would come out.

If the goal is for MU to have the best chance to advance in the tournament, the 11 seed might be the best. The 4-11 seeds are pretty tightly bunched and MU's games against them have shown that they are capable of beating any of them.

A first round win over a 6 seed would produce a quarterfinal game against Villanova. A win as a 9 or 10 would produce a game against St. John's or UConn.   

I can't get too interested in considering all the possibilities because MU isn't winning the tournament and who they play in the first round doesn't matter much. They can obviously beat or lose to anyone there. A team without much depth turning around to play the next day against one of the league's top teams is probably headed for defeat.
Title: Re: Tie brealks
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on March 05, 2026, 02:43:06 PM
My Xavier grad daughter keeps asking "are we going to the Big East Tournament" this year?
I am hoping both teams fall in the 7 through 10 seeds, so we get back to back games and no late game that involves a very late train home back to Connecticut. 

I was playing around with this https://bball.notnothing.net/bracket_cloud.php?conf=bigeastm  and Georgetown seems to fall in 11th under most scenarios, even if they beat a deflated Providence.
Title: Re: Tie brealks
Post by: brewcity77 on March 05, 2026, 02:56:25 PM
Quote from: The Equalizer on March 05, 2026, 09:04:03 AM9th seed: X has a 3-1 record (Beat GU twice, split with MU)
10th seed: MU has a 2-2 record (split both GU and X)
11th seed: GU has a 1-3 record (Lost to X twice, split with MU)

In the event of a 4-way tie, Butler split with all three teams above. So the mini-conference is:

8-Xavier 4-2
Butler 3-3
Marquette 3/3
11-Georgetown 2-4

That means Butler vs Marquette for 9/10. The teams also split the season series, so the next tiebreaker is record vs team occupying the highest spot in league standings.


Both were swept by UConn, St John's, and Villanova. But the Bulldogs beat Seton Hall, who is locked into 4th, so they would be the 9-seed against Xavier, while Marquette would be the 10 against most likely Providence.
Title: Re: Tie brealks
Post by: Warriors4ever on March 05, 2026, 03:26:00 PM
Thank you. I have been hoping we could avoid the late game on Wednesday, mainly, and also curious whether there was any possibility of being the 8 seed, mainly because I like to sit on the same side as our bench. But I did not have the patience to figure out all these possibilities...
Title: Re: Tie breaks
Post by: Jay Bee on March 07, 2026, 02:13:27 PM
So... looks like GT over Prov = 7 seed for us (sounds crazy) .. Prov win and we're 8. Yes?

So.. 3pm or 5:30pm central time tips on Wednesday.

#pray
Title: Re: Tie breaks
Post by: MU82 on March 07, 2026, 02:32:19 PM
Quote from: 18thandWells on March 05, 2026, 08:31:42 AMSad. A 6-14 three-way tie looks sad.

Good thing we didn't finish 6-14.

Quote from: willie warrior on March 05, 2026, 09:34:08 AMRejoice. We might end up in a 3 way tie for last in conference. hang a banner.

Grow up, you effen loser.
Title: Re: Tie breaks
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 07, 2026, 02:39:54 PM
Can we get matchup scenarios please??
Title: Re: Tie breaks
Post by: The Sultan on March 07, 2026, 02:40:16 PM
Quote from: MU82 on March 07, 2026, 02:32:19 PMGood thing we didn't finish 6-14.

Grow up, you effen loser.


Of course he goes silent after a big win. willie gonna willie.
Title: Re: Tie breaks
Post by: BM1090 on March 07, 2026, 02:46:59 PM
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 07, 2026, 02:39:54 PMCan we get matchup scenarios please??

I believe...

7 seed vs. Xavier if Georgetown wins. Xavier gets the 10 because they beat Georgetown twice.

8 seed vs. Butler if Providence wins. We're the 8 and they're the 9 because of our win today.
Title: Re: Tie breaks
Post by: brewcity77 on March 07, 2026, 02:48:26 PM
Quote from: Jay Bee on March 07, 2026, 02:13:27 PMSo... looks like GT over Prov = 7 seed for us (sounds crazy) .. Prov win and we're 8. Yes?

So.. 3pm or 5:30pm central time tips on Wednesday.

#pray

That's what I've got. PC wins and we're in an 8/9 tie with Butler and our UConn win gives us the tiebreaker, with the winner playing St John's.

PC loses and we're in a 3-way tie with PC and Butler. We get the 7 by way of our 3-1 mini conference record and play 10-seed Xavier.
Title: Re: Tie breaks
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 07, 2026, 02:54:09 PM
Quote from: BM1090 on March 07, 2026, 02:46:59 PMI believe...

7 seed vs. Xavier if Georgetown wins. Xavier gets the 10 because they beat Georgetown twice.

8 seed vs. Butler if Providence wins. We're the 8 and they're the 9 because of our win today.

Thanks. So we're on UCONN or SJUs side no matter what right?
Title: Re: Tie breaks
Post by: Jay Bee on March 07, 2026, 02:55:36 PM
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 07, 2026, 02:54:09 PMThanks. So we're on UCONN or SJUs side no matter what

Yup. Needed 6 or 11 to have Nova on Thursday
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