MU is playing like a bubble team. But we simply can't expect a bubble team to keep up with the offensive juggernaut that is DePaul!
Yeah, I've been watching Marquette hoops since November 1978 - literally seen hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of games since then - and that seriously was the worst half of MU basketball I've seen.
Our heroes teased us a couple times in the second half but stopped making shots.
I know FTs don't matter, so I won't even mention those.
Quote from: MU82 on Today at 05:24:43 PMYeah, I've been watching Marquette hoops since November 1978 - literally seen hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of games since then - and that seriously was the worst half of MU basketball I've seen.
Our heroes teased us a couple times in the second half but stopped making shots.
I know FTs don't matter, so I won't even mention those.
You know, I mock, and I've been kinda negative.
But I know everyone still paying attention now are fantastic fanatics. And that is legitimately a compliment.
We're on the bubble of playing like a bubble team.
Quote from: Pakuni on Today at 05:28:12 PMWe're on the bubble of playing like a bubble team.
We were ... before that abortion.
Quote from: MU82 on Today at 05:24:43 PMYeah, I've been watching Marquette hoops since November 1978 - literally seen hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of games since then - and that seriously was the worst half game of MU basketball I've seen.
FIFY
Only thing we can do at this point is laugh.
Quote from: Pakuni on Today at 05:28:12 PMWe're on the bubble of playing like a bubble team.
Add two more layers of bubbles, and I agree.
Quote from: WarriorFan on Today at 05:38:47 PMFIFY
It wasn't the worst full MU game I've seen, so save your words for yourself. Thanks.
Quote from: MU82 on Today at 05:42:18 PMIt wasn't the worst full MU game I've seen, so save your words for yourself. Thanks.
IMO, no game will ever be worse than the Western Michigan NIT game in 2005. The regular season finale against SLU that season was right behind it
And today was shades of DePaul 35 Wardle 17 at halftime in 2000.
There are absolutely zero excuses for this one. The first 20 mins was arguably the worst half of basketball in the history of this program.
Quote from: MU82 on Today at 05:24:43 PMthat seriously was the worst half of MU basketball
I'm not saying you are not correct, but for me I think it is being down 44-22 hosting Vanderbilt in '11.
Can leave out the word arguably
Quote from: MuggsyB on Today at 05:48:05 PMThere are absolutely zero excuses for this one. The first 20 mins was arguably the worst half of basketball in the history of this program.
Quote from: 18thandWells on Today at 05:51:35 PMI'm not saying you are not correct, but for me I think it is being down 44-22 hosting Vanderbilt in '11.
Sure, that sucked, but ...
14 points ... in 20 minutes ... at home ... vs DePaul.
I'll stick with that.
I was told in no uncertain terms that this team no longer sucked.
If memory serves, the score was 11-11 with like 13 mins to go in the 1H. To be outscored 21-3, in those minutes, on our home floor, vs DEPAUL, cannot be overstated. If there is a worse stretch of hooping in the history of our program, I'm all eyes or ears.
My forever worst MU game was way back in December 1982 at Minnesota. Minnesota won 100-66 while making Randy Breuer look like Shaq that night (I think he had over 40 points) and I almost broke my parent's TV.
Quote from: #UnleashJosh on Today at 06:01:48 PMI was told in no uncertain terms that this team no longer sucked.
I'm sticking to my Creighton and Butler outlier story.
But, our young guys do appear to have improved, even if they didn't have great days today. The problem is...next year they can't come out like Parham did to start this year.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on Today at 06:09:13 PMI'm sticking to my Creighton and Butler outlier story.
But, our young guys do appear to have improved, even if they didn't have great days today. The problem is...next year they can't come out like Parham did to start this year.
And we obviously need big-time additions.
Quote from: MuggsyB on Today at 06:11:11 PMAnd we obviously need big-time additions.
Well yeah. I'm still not convinced Shaka will run anybody off.
The juniors and seniors on this team should be ordered to leave now.
I believe we are now in last place in BEast. Thanks to Shaka for making us a low major/D3 team.
I'm too lazy to look it up but didn't we only score 38 points (or something close to that) total against Syracuse in the elite 8. Considering the stage, that was one of the worst games I can remember.
Today is almost expected with this team
Only a week and a half left....
Quote from: rocky_warrior on Today at 06:12:36 PMWell yeah. I'm still not convinced Shaka will run anybody off.
Is it impossible to show people the door because of NIL? We all know a number of our guys have no business being on our roster moving forward. Can't we just write them a check?
Quote from: MuggsyB on Today at 06:05:20 PMIf memory serves, the score was 11-11 with like 13 mins to go in the 1H. To be outscored 21-3, in those minutes, on our home floor, vs DEPAUL, cannot be overstated. If there is a worse stretch of hooping in the history of our program, I'm all eyes or ears.
...next season they should televise our practice scrimmages so we can see what a really good team we actually have.
Quote from: Superfan on Today at 06:13:38 PMThe juniors and seniors on this team should be ordered to leave now.
I think that would actually break Shaka's heart.
https://vimeo.com/1131460360
Quote from: swoopem on Today at 06:15:18 PMI'm too lazy to look it up but didn't we only score 38 points (or something close to that) total against Syracuse in the elite 8. Considering the stage, that was one of the worst games I can remember.
Today is almost expected with this team
Only a week and a half left....
As far as our tournament disasters, and there's been many, I don't put them at this level of futility. Mainly because we faced good competition.
I believe we are now in last place in BEast. Thanks to Shaka for making us a low major/D3 team.
Quote from: willie warrior on Today at 06:21:08 PMI believe we are now in last place in BEast. Thanks to Shaka for making us a low major/D3 team.
...on the bright side Marquette has not decided to drop d1 basketball, yet.
This team goes as Nigel goes. If he plays well, we look halfway decent. If he's inconsistent, we look like we did today.
The idea this roster only needs two portal additions to be competitive next year is laughable. The only way we change course next year is to get rid of the players who put us in this mess.
Quote from: willie warrior on Today at 06:21:08 PMI believe we are now in last place in BEast. Thanks to Shaka for making us a low major/D3 team.
We read it 7 minutes ago willie.
The RGV patch is back, and he makes sure to display it!
Quote from: rocky_warrior on Today at 06:12:36 PMWell yeah. I'm still not convinced Shaka will run anybody off.
Well he won't be around for too long if he doesn't.
I guess I don't understand the mechanics behind the shared revenue/NIL world we live in today. These guys are no longer "innocent college kids" but professional athletes with some probably making more money than most fans in the stands paying to watch them. They can all become free agents at the end of the year as evidenced by the +/- 2,000 D1 players that have entered the transfer portal in each of the recent years. Given that, why is it so difficult to cut the non-contributors at the end of the year??? If it's a one-way street in favor of the players that's grossly unfair to the colleges that pay them.
Quote from: Superfan on Today at 06:50:17 PMI guess I don't understand the mechanics behind the shared revenue/NIL world we live in today. These guys are no longer "innocent college kids" but professional athletes with some probably making more money than most fans in the stands paying to watch them. They can all become free agents at the end of the year as evidenced by the +/- 2,000 D1 players that have entered the transfer portal in each of the recent years. Given that, why is it so difficult to cut the non-contributors at the end of the year??? If it's a one-way street in favor of the players that's grossly unfair to the colleges that pay them.
I know several will tell you Shaka has changed his tune, and maybe he has. But did you watch the 60 second vimeo video I linked?
Quote from: Tums Festival on Today at 06:07:08 PMMy forever worst MU game was way back in December 1982 at Minnesota. Minnesota won 100-66 while making Randy Breuer look like Shaq that night (I think he had over 40 points) and I almost broke my parent's TV.
This was partially responsible for me winding up at MU tbh
Quote from: rocky_warrior on Today at 06:53:30 PMI know several will tell you Shaka has changed his tune, and maybe he has. But did you watch the 60 second vimeo video I linked?
Yes I did but Shaka has no choice. If he doesn't cut some and add via the portal he won't survive at MU. I think we have a forgiving fan base but no one will tolerate a repeat of this year.
Guess I am not a fanatic of fanatics.
Beautiful spring like day to not be outside to enjoy it.
Just remembered MU played today.
TY for the recap.
Quote from: Superfan on Today at 07:00:08 PMShaka has no choice
He has many choices. We don't yet know what those will be.
You think the key alumni givers are happy to dole out money to most of these below average players? Doubt it. Times will change drastically or say good bye to the Coach. By the way, Shaka's offensive strategy, watching NJ dribble around is pathetic, the other 3 olayers just stand around
Quote from: rocky_warrior on Today at 06:40:04 PMThe RGV patch is back, and he makes sure to display it!
Does the Spirit Shop sell anything that doesn't have the RGV patch or logo?
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on Today at 07:02:45 PMDoes the Spirit Shop sell anything that doesn't have the RGV patch or logo?
They did 10 days ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pq3kDQfuVA
Quote from: muwarrior69 on Today at 06:30:01 PM...on the bright side Marquette has not decided to drop d1 basketball, yet.
Could have fooled me
Quote from: rocky_warrior on Today at 06:53:30 PMI know several will tell you Shaka has changed his tune, and maybe he has. But did you watch the 60 second vimeo video I linked?
The video from 4 months ago, that was filmed before this disaster of a season and before Shaka committed publically to changing his roster-building approach?
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on Today at 07:17:50 PMThe video from 4 months ago, that was filmed before this disaster of a season and before Shaka committed publically to changing his roster-building approach?
Care to explain the extreme "RGV" showcase in his lates postgame. Dude loves his guys, won't tell anyone to leave. Is excited to fill Zaide's spot.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on Today at 06:53:30 PMI know several will tell you Shaka has changed his tune, and maybe he has. But did you watch the 60 second vimeo video I linked?
We have three guys to build around next year, and maybe DO. But if Shaka does not pivot at all, and we are completely irrelevant next year, there's a 0.0% chance he will be on the MU bench in '27-28. He deserves the chance to right the ship, but it's worth noting how bad our conference is this year. That means two things: 1) it's not just a bad season, it's a historically bad season × 10, and 2) Improving from the Depths of Hell doesn't mean diddly squat if that means an NIT or worse next year.
Quote from: MuggsyB on Today at 07:24:54 PMdiddly squat if that means an NIT or worse next year.
Any tournament next year would be a significant improvement. I also expect an improved BE next season.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on Today at 07:19:15 PMCare to explain the extreme "RGV" showcase in his lates postgame. Dude loves his guys, won't tell anyone to leave. Is excited to fill Zaide's spot.
You're seriously analyzing wardrobe choices now?
RGV and using the portal are not mutually exclusive, either.
Also, when did he say he won't tell anyone to leave? Has he said that since the news about the portal? If he has, I sure missed it.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on Today at 07:34:49 PMwhen did he say he won't tell anyone to leave
I'm saying he won't tell anyone to leave. The wardrobe choices are confirming what I'm saying. But, believe what you want.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on Today at 07:37:02 PMI'm saying he won't tell anyone to leave. The wardrobe choices are confirming what I'm saying. But, believe what you want.
Why did Itejere, Ellis and Amadou leave?
If you want to be skeptical, that's fine.
I just have a very hard time believing the program would make a very intentional decision to share the change in approach knowing it would be broadcast live during a game.
Also, at minimum, I can't imagine Sean coming back to ride the bench.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on Today at 07:37:02 PMI'm saying he won't tell anyone to leave. The wardrobe choices are confirming what I'm saying. But, believe what you want.
Be prepared to be pleasantly surprised. :)
Quote from: WhiteTrash on Today at 07:51:14 PMBe prepared to be pleasantly surprised. :)
That is a dream of mine in relation to this!
I'm w / Rocky. I don't believe he will tell anyone to leave. He won't ...
That will leave them w / two spots
( Zaide, and Sean graduating ).
And that's not enough
Quote from: Superfan on Today at 07:00:08 PMYes I did but Shaka has no choice. If he doesn't cut some and add via the portal he won't survive at MU. I think we have a forgiving fan base but no one will tolerate a repeat of this year.
What he needs to add is a Sports Therapist. Something is mentally affecting the whole team.