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Title: War with Iran
Post by: jesmu84 on February 24, 2026, 06:47:22 PM
What a stupid idea.

Who supports this?

Why aren't we listening to the generals?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jables1604 on February 24, 2026, 08:04:03 PM
Quote from: jesmu84 on February 24, 2026, 06:47:22 PMWhat a stupid idea.

Who supports this?

Why aren't we listening to the generals?
Wagging the dog.

Need something to distract from the economy and the tremendous loss on tariffs.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on February 24, 2026, 08:14:12 PM
Quote from: Jables1604 on February 24, 2026, 08:04:03 PMWagging the dog.

Need something to distract from the economy and the tremendous loss on tariffs.

And the Epstein files.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on February 24, 2026, 09:24:11 PM
It is impossible for me to believe that the very much deserving winner of the renowned FIFA Peace Prize would start a war.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on February 24, 2026, 09:30:40 PM
Epstein.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: CreightonWarrior on February 25, 2026, 06:55:18 AM
Quote from: MU82 on February 24, 2026, 09:24:11 PMIt is impossible for me to believe that the very much deserving winner of the renowned FIFA Peace Prize would start a war.
gotta pad the "ended wars" count somehow
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Shaka Shart on February 25, 2026, 01:16:33 PM
For the love of god I hope someone has a five point plan
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: The Sultan on February 25, 2026, 01:50:25 PM
Obviously this sabre-rattling is about getting Iran to capitulate on a nuclear deal. But Iran really doesn't see the need to do so because all the United States is going to do is bomb them, which will break things undoubtedly, but isn't going to remove the mullahs from power. They also know full well that any sort of invasion of Iran isn't going to go well for the U.S. at all, and would be extremely unpopular.

Finally, the United States has shown that its not a reliable partner when it comes to its nuclear treaties anyway. So why bother?

I have said this before, but Trump's foreign policy is the exactly opposite of TR's "speak softly but carry a big stick." He talks brashly (for the lol's apparently) but then just weenies out. And in the long-run that just costs us legitimacy. Like it has in Europe.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on February 25, 2026, 02:33:03 PM
Can't be true. I have it on excellent authority that Iran's nuclear program was "obliterated" last year.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Hards Alumni on February 25, 2026, 02:45:52 PM
Quote from: The Sultan on February 25, 2026, 01:50:25 PMObviously this sabre-rattling is about getting Iran to capitulate on a nuclear deal. But Iran really doesn't see the need to do so because all the United States is going to do is bomb them, which will break things undoubtedly, but isn't going to remove the mullahs from power. They also know full well that any sort of invasion of Iran isn't going to go well for the U.S. at all, and would be extremely unpopular.

Finally, the United States has shown that its not a reliable partner when it comes to its nuclear treaties anyway. So why bother?

I have said this before, but Trump's foreign policy is the exactly opposite of TR's "speak softly but carry a big stick." He talks brashly (for the lol's apparently) but then just weenies out. And in the long-run that just costs us legitimacy. Like it has in Europe.

If they moved half of the US Naval and air assets to the middle east just to bluff I'd be shocked.

All of this makes much more sense when you consider that the US is doing all this at the behest of Israel.

If the US does go through with this boondoggle the Chinese would be wise to move up their Taiwan timeline, if possible.  Especially, with the new leadership in Tokyo.  If the US uses up a bunch of their ordinance and can't replace them quickly... just don't be shocked.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on February 25, 2026, 03:46:24 PM
Has Secretary Kegstand heard something that's special about Iranian women or Iranian booze?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on February 26, 2026, 09:06:32 AM
Get on board or get out, I guess.

https://x.com/Reuters/status/2026874894550540510?s=20
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: cheebs09 on February 26, 2026, 11:43:35 AM
Well, a distraction will be needed if a certain Bubba story is confirmed tomorrow.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: CreightonWarrior on February 26, 2026, 12:12:51 PM
Quote from: cheebs09 on February 26, 2026, 11:43:35 AMWell, a distraction will be needed if a certain Bubba story is confirmed tomorrow.
I think epstein's brother said it isn't Bill
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: jesmu84 on February 26, 2026, 06:32:13 PM
Quote from: cheebs09 on February 26, 2026, 11:43:35 AMWell, a distraction will be needed if a certain Bubba story is confirmed tomorrow.
?

Link?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Shaka Shart on February 26, 2026, 06:59:58 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on February 26, 2026, 09:06:32 AMGet on board or get out, I guess.

https://x.com/Reuters/status/2026874894550540510?s=20

DEI?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Scoop Snoop on February 26, 2026, 07:29:50 PM
Quote from: jesmu84 on February 26, 2026, 06:32:13 PM?

Link?

This is scoop. We don't need no stinkin' links. We just blurt sh!t out.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on February 26, 2026, 07:50:33 PM
Having a long time family friend who is Iranian and who spent years helping his brother and his family get out or Iran, I completely support ending the Iranian regime... But not like this.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TallTitan34 on February 27, 2026, 09:43:13 AM
Quote from: cheebs09 on February 26, 2026, 11:43:35 AMWell, a distraction will be needed if a certain Bubba story is confirmed tomorrow.

How about this?

https://x.com/gma/status/2027356571370393946?s=46
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on February 27, 2026, 10:38:51 AM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on February 27, 2026, 09:43:13 AMHow about this?

https://x.com/gma/status/2027356571370393946?s=46

You know who was also involved in the 2020 election? The Stonecutters. It isn't just every Oscar night they rig.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Shaka Shart on February 27, 2026, 01:15:48 PM
Was nice of china to leave the election alone in 2024 then
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on February 27, 2026, 05:41:52 PM
Quote from: Hards Alumni on February 25, 2026, 02:45:52 PMIf they moved half of the US Naval and air assets to the middle east just to bluff I'd be shocked.

All of this makes much more sense when you consider that the US is doing all this at the behest of Israel.

If the US does go through with this boondoggle the Chinese would be wise to move up their Taiwan timeline, if possible.  Especially, with the new leadership in Tokyo.  If the US uses up a bunch of their ordinance and can't replace them quickly... just don't be shocked.


Epstein.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Shaka Shart on February 27, 2026, 06:57:23 PM
At a certain point you can't blame all psychotic actions on being a distraction, because it detracts from the seriousness of human suffering the actions you propose are a distraction are causing.

In my eyes they run parallel, not overlapping
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on February 28, 2026, 01:03:33 AM
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Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: forgetful on February 28, 2026, 05:13:38 AM
All of this just (including Venezuela) just justifies any countries that disagree with the US to pursue any and all advanced weaponry they can, because the US has proven time and time again lately that we will unilaterally strike a nation we disagree with just because we can.

Most warring nation on the planet goes to war saying they are trying to ensure peace by striking a nation that doesn't attack anyone else.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: jesmu84 on February 28, 2026, 06:04:37 AM
Quote from: forgetful on February 28, 2026, 05:13:38 AMAll of this just (including Venezuela) just justifies any countries that disagree with the US to pursue any and all advanced weaponry they can, because the US has proven time and time again lately that we will unilaterally strike a nation we disagree with just because we can.

Most warring nation on the planet goes to war saying they are trying to ensure peace by striking a nation that doesn't attack anyone else.

North Korea has the right idea. Getting a nuke is the only way to protect your sovereignty
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: jesmu84 on February 28, 2026, 06:05:36 AM
The trump administration is illegally declaring war and attacking a nation who has not attacked or threatened the US.

Trump should be impeached today.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: jesmu84 on February 28, 2026, 06:25:00 AM
Strikes against us bases in bahrain, Kuwait and Anu Dhabi
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: jesmu84 on February 28, 2026, 06:26:52 AM
https://x.com/i/status/2027652088046796867
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: cheebs09 on February 28, 2026, 06:51:38 AM
This is really going to taint the legitimacy of the FIFA Peace Prize.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on February 28, 2026, 07:01:05 AM
Epstein.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: forgetful on February 28, 2026, 07:43:27 AM
Israel bombs a girls elementary school in Iran, killing dozens of children.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Tarragona on February 28, 2026, 08:02:42 AM
It's not even March of 2026 yet. It has been the longest 404 days of people's lives, and counting.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on February 28, 2026, 09:10:15 AM
There's always a tweet. In this case, a couple dozen.

https://x.com/StephenM/status/1848522697392738809?s=20
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Tarragona on February 28, 2026, 09:20:48 AM
This is the 7th country that has been bombed under Trump's orders:

Iran, Venezuela, Yemen, Syria, iraq, Somalia, Nigeria.

Additional 6 Threatened:

Cuba, Colombia, Mexico, Panama, Greenland, Canada.

If you had zero Epstein client arrests before the bombing of Iran, you were correct. It's also a gaslighting distraction from the affordability crisis, tariffs, bribes, healthcare, ICE, threatening to steal elections, tailspinning poll numbers.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: The Sultan on February 28, 2026, 09:48:37 AM
Of all the dumb things this idiot has done for the last year plus change, this may be the dumbest.

https://musgrave.substack.com/p/an-unpopular-doomed-bloody-war
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on February 28, 2026, 09:54:33 AM
Quote from: forgetful on February 28, 2026, 07:43:27 AMIsrael bombs a girls elementary school in Iran, killing dozens of children.

Obviously, they shouldn't have worn hijabs.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: #UnleashThePortal on February 28, 2026, 10:26:20 AM
Oh I love waking up and being at war with a country that the US military said DO NOT ATTACK.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: #UnleashThePortal on February 28, 2026, 10:28:07 AM
Quote from: jesmu84 on February 28, 2026, 06:26:52 AMhttps://x.com/i/status/2027652088046796867

(https://64.media.tumblr.com/89160c00e7d4f5dd7f9eefd6ee7e46fb/9f9c4cfa194b57ff-a2/s1280x1920/7d8f143abc2db65150fd85f9a5d342b42b5c3936.jpg)
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on February 28, 2026, 10:50:46 AM
The draft-dodging Capt. Bone Spur loves playing soldier ... from thousands and thousands of miles away.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: jesmu84 on February 28, 2026, 11:13:51 AM
Is the US still a democracy?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MUBurrow on February 28, 2026, 11:20:34 AM
IMO two things are true simultaneously here -

1. The US probably should have taken a more active hardline against the regime and its use of proxies across the region, openly, covertly, or both. This is just untrue:
Quote from: forgetful on February 28, 2026, 05:13:38 AMby striking a nation that doesn't attack anyone else.

2. The wishcasting on this conflict has been so similar to the Iraq War that it would be boring if it weren't so obviously tragic.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Tarragona on February 28, 2026, 11:25:50 AM
https://x.com/danpfeiffer/status/2027747893629931823?s=46
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: jesmu84 on February 28, 2026, 11:33:13 AM
Quote from: Tarragona on February 28, 2026, 11:25:50 AMhttps://x.com/danpfeiffer/status/2027747893629931823?s=46

AFTER this Trump admin stated they "obliterated" Iran's ability to enrich uranium last summer
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: jesmu84 on February 28, 2026, 11:33:23 AM
https://x.com/i/status/2027406282517266778
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: #UnleashThePortal on February 28, 2026, 11:47:42 AM
Quote from: jesmu84 on February 28, 2026, 11:33:23 AMhttps://x.com/i/status/2027406282517266778

But remember, college isn't a scam that makes you pay 200k in loans, and a robot will take your job. But it's not a scam.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Tarragona on February 28, 2026, 12:10:22 PM
https://x.com/marceelias/status/2027772523119550692?s=46
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on February 28, 2026, 12:17:03 PM
Quote from: forgetful on February 28, 2026, 07:43:27 AMIsrael bombs a girls elementary school in Iran, killing dozens of children.

Who cares?

It's not like they are white girls.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on February 28, 2026, 12:23:49 PM
Quote from: Tarragona on February 28, 2026, 11:25:50 AMhttps://x.com/danpfeiffer/status/2027747893629931823?s=46


This exactly.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: jesmu84 on February 28, 2026, 02:39:53 PM
Khameini allegedly dead
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: GB Warrior on February 28, 2026, 02:40:14 PM
Im sure there will be no retaliation from the Revolutionary Guard
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: forgetful on February 28, 2026, 02:42:38 PM
Quote from: jesmu84 on February 28, 2026, 02:39:53 PMKhameini allegedly dead

More War crimes. Deliberate assassination of leaders is a war crime.

Also, his death accomplishes nothing and risks that the next leader may be even more extreme.

Israel and the US once again, preemptively attached a sovereign nation currently actively involved in negotiations. And in this case, used the negotiations as a pretext to track and force their leadership to meet so they could carry out a targeted assassination. Can you imagine if other nations did this acted this way?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on February 28, 2026, 02:57:11 PM
Quote from: Tarragona on February 28, 2026, 12:10:22 PMhttps://x.com/marceelias/status/2027772523119550692?s=46

While everyone else was worried about 2028, I was telling everyone it was the 2026 elections we needed to be worried about.

Can't we just send a bus load of 14 year olds to the WH to distract him?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on February 28, 2026, 02:57:40 PM
https://x.com/StephenM/status/1848522697392738809
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Tarragona on February 28, 2026, 03:09:27 PM
This is the Editor-in-Chief of CBS News:

https://x.com/bariweiss/status/2027835224369811663?s=46
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on February 28, 2026, 03:12:14 PM
Quote from: jesmu84 on February 28, 2026, 11:13:51 AMIs the US still a democracy?

No, not for a year now.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on February 28, 2026, 03:22:57 PM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on February 28, 2026, 02:57:40 PMhttps://x.com/StephenM/
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on February 28, 2026, 02:57:40 PMhttps://x.com/StephenM/status/1848522697392738809

Murderous ghoul.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Shaka Shart on February 28, 2026, 03:53:12 PM
Quote from: Tarragona on February 28, 2026, 03:09:27 PMThis is the Editor-in-Chief of CBS News:

https://x.com/bariweiss/status/2027835224369811663?s=46

Truly one of the best examples of the meritocracy being a myth
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on February 28, 2026, 03:53:44 PM
Bald-faced lies.

(https://images2.imgbox.com/07/48/Tajb3Dqb_o.png) (https://imgbox.com/Tajb3Dqb)
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: mu_hilltopper on February 28, 2026, 04:04:28 PM
So .. now that airstrikes have likely killed Khamenei .. what's the over/under on how many days before a suicide bomber blows up pizzeria in NYC? 

Kalshi listing yet?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on February 28, 2026, 04:33:33 PM
Quote from: Jockey on February 28, 2026, 03:22:57 PMMurderous ghoul.


Dude, you should apologize to murderous ghouls for that comparison
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: jesmu84 on February 28, 2026, 04:39:08 PM
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on February 28, 2026, 04:04:28 PMSo .. now that airstrikes have likely killed Khamenei .. what's the over/under on how many days before a suicide bomber blows up pizzeria in NYC? 

Kalshi listing yet?

Funny you should say that...

https://x.com/i/status/2027827106391199808
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: jesmu84 on February 28, 2026, 04:55:07 PM
Quote from: forgetful on February 28, 2026, 02:42:38 PMMore War crimes. Deliberate assassination of leaders is a war crime.

Also, his death accomplishes nothing and risks that the next leader may be even more extreme.

Israel and the US once again, preemptively attached a sovereign nation currently actively involved in negotiations. And in this case, used the negotiations as a pretext to track and force their leadership to meet so they could carry out a targeted assassination. Can you imagine if other nations did this acted this way?

9 Saturdays in 2026.

2/9 the US has eliminated a sovereign country's leader for regime change.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on February 28, 2026, 05:43:32 PM
"Nation-building and regime change is a proven, absolute failure. I promise to stop racing to topple foreign regimes." - Candidate Trump, 2016
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on February 28, 2026, 06:06:53 PM
https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/2027741077646516550?s=20
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on February 28, 2026, 06:30:34 PM
jfc

https://x.com/Acyn/status/2027896926151315737?s=20
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Shaka Shart on February 28, 2026, 06:38:30 PM
I bet Muggsy is standing (metaphorically) tall today
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: rocky_warrior on February 28, 2026, 07:49:37 PM
Quote from: jesmu84 on February 28, 2026, 11:33:23 AMMillennials living through:

- 2 economic recessions
- 9/11
- Iraq & Afghanistan
- a global pandemic
- 8 stock market crashes
- jobs replaced by AI
- Host of The Apprentice possibly starting WW3

We're tired boss.

Hey now, Gen X would like to raise them a few.

Boomers even more.

And the silent generation, they potentially had the great depression and certainly WWII.  Millennials should talk to a few of these folks that are still alive.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jables1604 on February 28, 2026, 08:33:24 PM
Does this effect his "8 wars ended" numbers?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: rocky_warrior on February 28, 2026, 08:36:36 PM
Quote from: Jables1604 on February 28, 2026, 08:33:24 PMDoes this effect his "8 wars ended" numbers?

And that's only after 13 months!  Imagine how many will end in the next 7 years!

I just want to bump this (I know, I locked it).  But man, you'd think @MuggsyB  would be over the top now.  I lol'd at his approval of qatar.
https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=65076.0

Maybe it's paranoia, but also this (link down to the reference thread for more info)
Quote from: rocky_warrior on February 28, 2026, 09:02:44 PMThey're back at it, over 900 active connections on wiki images.  Wiki is still up, just removed the images. #someoneistargetingus
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: jesmu84 on February 28, 2026, 09:13:35 PM
Gonna be real sus if there's a terrorist attack on US soil in the coming days.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: rocky_warrior on February 28, 2026, 09:14:54 PM
Quote from: jesmu84 on February 28, 2026, 09:13:35 PMGonna be real sus if there's a terrorist attack on US soil in the coming days.

I don't expect terrorist.  I expect actual war attack.

Stay safe, my friends.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on February 28, 2026, 09:42:41 PM
Quote from: rocky_warrior on February 28, 2026, 09:14:54 PMI don't expect terrorist.  I expect actual war attack.

Stay safe, my friends.

How will Iranian warfighters attack on American soil? Are you thinking sleeper cells?
And yes, an Iranian attack on the U.S. at this point would be war, not terrorism.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: rocky_warrior on February 28, 2026, 09:45:10 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on February 28, 2026, 09:42:41 PMHow will Iranian warfighters attack on American soil? Are you thinking sleeper cells?
And yes, an Iranian attack on the U.S. at this point would be war, not terrorism.

I'm not thinking  :)   Just saying retaliation would be a continuation of war.

And JFC! The attack on muscoop continues..
https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?msg=1796561.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: jesmu84 on February 28, 2026, 09:51:08 PM
Quote from: rocky_warrior on February 28, 2026, 09:14:54 PMI don't expect terrorist.  I expect actual war attack.

Stay safe, my friends.

I'm thinking more of a false flag event
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: rocky_warrior on February 28, 2026, 09:52:58 PM
Quote from: jesmu84 on February 28, 2026, 09:51:08 PMI'm thinking more of a false flag event

Disagree.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: jesmu84 on February 28, 2026, 09:56:45 PM
Quote from: rocky_warrior on February 28, 2026, 09:52:58 PMDisagree.


Easy way to generate support for an unpopular war
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Shaka Shart on February 28, 2026, 11:15:36 PM
Quote from: jesmu84 on February 28, 2026, 09:56:45 PMEasy way to generate support for an unpopular war

I think they know they're cooked in the elections as it stands and are getting all their geopolitical aspirations out of the way.

Be careful about immediately getting conspiratorial, we already have a dental school.

Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on February 28, 2026, 11:15:59 PM
Quote from: jesmu84 on February 28, 2026, 09:56:45 PMEasy way to generate support for an unpopular war

What makes you think this administration cares whether it's popular? They don't even care if it's legal.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: The Sultan on March 01, 2026, 06:46:20 AM
Quote from: jesmu84 on February 28, 2026, 09:56:45 PMEasy way to generate support for an unpopular war


Except it wouldn't generate support. We started this thing.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: jesmu84 on March 01, 2026, 07:21:24 AM
World War E (Epstein) or War-a-lago?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on March 01, 2026, 08:17:20 AM
Quote from: jesmu84 on February 28, 2026, 09:56:45 PMEasy way to generate support for an unpopular war

This. Americans have zero interest in a war with Iran at this point; an actual attack on Americans, particularly on American soil, completely changes the equation and plays into our regime's hands. The administration would be thrilled if this happens.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on March 01, 2026, 08:18:42 AM
Quote from: The Sultan on March 01, 2026, 06:46:20 AMExcept it wouldn't generate support. We started this thing.

Disagree. A large swath of our dopey citizens won't care who started it...
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 01, 2026, 08:36:03 AM
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on March 01, 2026, 08:18:42 AMDisagree. A large swath of our dopey citizens won't care who started it...

It's not all a conspiracy!

QuoteAli Larijani, Iran's top national security official, vowed on Sunday morning to forcefully retaliate against the United States and Israel. "Today we will hit them with a force that they have never experienced before," he said in a post on X.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on March 01, 2026, 08:59:53 AM
Quote from: MU82 on February 28, 2026, 05:43:32 PM"Nation-building and regime change is a proven, absolute failure. I promise to stop racing to topple foreign regimes." - Candidate Trump, 2016

Further cemented by VP JD "no lube please, Mr. President" Vance

https://x.com/i/status/2007504484642238610
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on March 01, 2026, 09:02:51 AM
Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 01, 2026, 08:36:03 AMIt's not all a conspiracy!

I was only playing out the scenario. Sultan is of the opinion that if there was an attack on the U.S., it would not galvanize support for the war. I disagree, because the one thing you can count on is the public braying for blood the second an attack occurs here; broadly, the public won't care who "started it".
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Scoop Snoop on March 01, 2026, 09:20:02 AM
The Big Kahuna must be thrilled that he has upped his game. Why settle for capturing a country's leader like Maduro and taking him out of the country when you can take out a country's leader like a "made man" and Mafioso?

To be clear...I know that both guys are/were awful. It's the basic principal I am challenging. Muggsy advocated for Putin's assassination so he must be very happy about the acceptance of assassination as a legitimate tool.

And yes, I know the CIA has been involved in assassinations over the years. At least our government pretended to not know anything about it.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: GB Warrior on March 01, 2026, 09:30:44 AM
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on March 01, 2026, 08:17:20 AMThis. Americans have zero interest in a war with Iran at this point; an actual attack on Americans, particularly on American soil, completely changes the equation and plays into our regime's hands. The administration would be thrilled if this happens.

Especially if it's full of left wingers
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on March 01, 2026, 09:36:48 AM
https://x.com/CENTCOM/status/2028120499964805297?s=20
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Hards Alumni on March 01, 2026, 09:54:57 AM
Quote from: jesmu84 on February 28, 2026, 09:51:08 PMI'm thinking more of a false flag event

Don't need one.  If anything happens, it will because the US allowed something to get through on purpose. 
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: The Sultan on March 01, 2026, 10:41:56 AM
To be honest, if Trump just decides to stop American attacks right now, he could declare "victory" (Kahmaeni dead) and pull out.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on March 01, 2026, 10:52:23 AM
Quote from: Pakuni on March 01, 2026, 09:36:48 AMhttps://x.com/CENTCOM/status/2028120499964805297?s=20

Shoulda listened to Sen. Kelly. Would still be alive.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: jesmu84 on March 01, 2026, 10:59:17 AM
Quote from: Hards Alumni on March 01, 2026, 09:54:57 AMDon't need one.  If anything happens, it will because the US allowed something to get through on purpose. 

Same same.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: jesmu84 on March 01, 2026, 10:59:48 AM
Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 01, 2026, 08:36:03 AMIt's not all a conspiracy!


I was meaning an attack on the contiguous states. Not overseas bases
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on March 01, 2026, 11:01:14 AM
Quote from: Jockey on March 01, 2026, 10:52:23 AMShoulda listened to Sen. Kelly. Would still be alive.

There's no reason to believe this is true.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jay Bee on March 01, 2026, 11:04:04 AM
Battlefield has moved to Austin, TX.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on March 01, 2026, 11:04:47 AM
Quote from: The Sultan on March 01, 2026, 10:41:56 AMTo be honest, if Trump just decides to stop American attacks right now, he could declare "victory" (Kahmaeni dead) and pull out.

I'm sure he'll declare victory no matter what happens, but do people actually believe the Iranian regime is going to crumble because its 86-year-old leader was killed?
There's a scenario here where this is the first of many dominoes that, if they fall right, ends the regime. But there are so many plausible outcomes here, not the least of which is that the regime comes out of this more hardened and extreme.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on March 01, 2026, 11:12:47 AM
Quote from: Pakuni on March 01, 2026, 11:01:14 AMThere's no reason to believe this is true.

I disagree.

You believe trump's order to start a war of aggression is legal. I don't.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on March 01, 2026, 11:14:01 AM
Quote from: Pakuni on March 01, 2026, 09:36:48 AMhttps://x.com/CENTCOM/status/2028120499964805297?s=20

Blood on Capt. Bone Spur's tiny hands.

Think about all the time on the campaign he spent screaming that Harris was gonna "send your sons to die in foreign wars."
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on March 01, 2026, 11:19:17 AM
Quote from: Jockey on March 01, 2026, 11:12:47 AMI disagree.

You believe trump's order to start a war of aggression is legal. I don't.

Since you seem to know, what were these soldiers doing when they were killed?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: The Sultan on March 01, 2026, 11:30:00 AM
Quote from: Pakuni on March 01, 2026, 11:04:47 AMI'm sure he'll declare victory no matter what happens, but do people actually believe the Iranian regime is going to crumble because its 86-year-old leader was killed?
There's a scenario here where this is the first of many dominoes that, if they fall right, ends the regime. But there are so many plausible outcomes here, not the least of which is that the regime comes out of this more hardened and extreme.

No my point is that if he sees that it will go bad or popular opinion is massively against this, that he will just declare victory and depart regardless of the dominoes remaining.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on March 01, 2026, 12:08:35 PM
Quote from: The Sultan on March 01, 2026, 11:30:00 AMNo my point is that if he sees that it will go bad or popular opinion is massively against this, that he will just declare victory and depart regardless of the dominoes remaining.

I agree with your point. Just adding to it that killing Khamenei, who no one should mourn or miss, might not be a victory in and of itself.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: forgetful on March 01, 2026, 01:14:09 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on March 01, 2026, 11:04:47 AMI'm sure he'll declare victory no matter what happens, but do people actually believe the Iranian regime is going to crumble because its 86-year-old leader was killed?
There's a scenario here where this is the first of many dominoes that, if they fall right, ends the regime. But there are so many plausible outcomes here, not the least of which is that the regime comes out of this more hardened and extreme.

I'll take this a different way. Assassinating him was moronic. He was not an effective leader, or a threat. He was though a religious icon, for many Shia's similar to the Pope.

Killing him made him a martyr and will lead to someone younger, likely more radical, and a more effective leader in control.

And destroying all their military infrastructure will just lead them to tie themselves to China's military complex even tighter, wouldn't be surprised when the dust settles for China and Iran to make some military agreements that will give Iran more offensive fire power within the next 5 years.

This is all about a weak man pretending to be strong, to cover up bad press, and in so doing playing with the lives of young Americans.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on March 01, 2026, 01:31:00 PM
Preach, JD!

https://x.com/OfTheBraveUSA/status/2027851419223466241
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on March 01, 2026, 01:46:22 PM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 01, 2026, 01:31:00 PMPreach, JD!

https://x.com/OfTheBraveUSA/status/2027851419223466241

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQHOM2sAcNDw7zZpO5zJxgvEAd7qmiKVSUm9Q&s)
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on March 01, 2026, 02:17:41 PM
Quote from: forgetful on March 01, 2026, 01:14:09 PMI'll take this a different way. Assassinating him was moronic. He was not an effective leader, or a threat. He was though a religious icon, for many Shia's similar to the Pope.

Killing him made him a martyr and will lead to someone younger, likely more radical, and a more effective leader in control.

And destroying all their military infrastructure will just lead them to tie themselves to China's military complex even tighter, wouldn't be surprised when the dust settles for China and Iran to make some military agreements that will give Iran more offensive fire power within the next 5 years.

This is all about a weak man pretending to be strong, to cover up bad press, and in so doing playing with the lives of young Americans.

If the goal is to keep America strong, and it isn't with this prez because grifting is all that really matters, he would not have cut U.S. aid driving both African and South American countries to create deeper ties to China. And as you said, the same will happen here.

But distraction is everything when you having a misinformed populace. Epstein, Epstein, Epstein.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: The Sultan on March 01, 2026, 02:21:57 PM
Quote from: Jockey on March 01, 2026, 02:17:41 PMIf the goal is to keep America strong, and it isn't with this prez because grifting is all that really matters, he would not have cut U.S. driving both African and South American countries to create deeper ties to China. And as you said, the same will happen here.

But distraction is everything when you having a misinformed populace. Epstein, Epstein, Epstein.


That's a way too simplistic way to look at this.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: pbiflyer on March 01, 2026, 02:24:54 PM
Quote from: rocky_warrior on February 28, 2026, 08:36:36 PMMaybe it's paranoia, but also this (link down to the reference thread for more info)

Makes sense as a target. Scoop falls and the rest of the country follows in short order.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Shaka Shart on March 01, 2026, 03:04:44 PM
Quote from: pbiflyer on March 01, 2026, 02:24:54 PMMakes sense as a target. Scoop falls and the rest of the country follows in short order.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-yrwX9wdZdEQ/YFqnlLe1brI/AAAAAAAAc5A/Zizxmaq5rp8c6RaGOZKffQiJquRLq735wCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/president-bush-informed-9-11-attack-photo%2B%25281%2529.jpg)
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MUBurrow on March 01, 2026, 05:25:10 PM
Quote from: The Sultan on March 01, 2026, 02:21:57 PMThat's a way too simplistic way to look at this.

Normally I would agree with this, but are we sure that applies here? The US President also happens to be the dumbest bitch on the planet, and doesn't consistently price in any advice or intel. I'm not sure there is any reason to believe 4-D chess is being played.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on March 01, 2026, 05:57:02 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on March 01, 2026, 01:46:22 PM(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQHOM2sAcNDw7zZpO5zJxgvEAd7qmiKVSUm9Q&s)

I mean, just a few years earlier, JV referred to the guy as "America's Hitler," so he's one to let his views evolve as it serves him personally.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: GB Warrior on March 01, 2026, 06:12:10 PM
Quote from: MU82 on March 01, 2026, 05:57:02 PMI mean, just a few years earlier, JV referred to the guy as "America's Hitler," so he's one to let his views evolve as it serves him personally.

He isn't the first to do a U Turn in the face of fascism
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on March 01, 2026, 06:12:41 PM
Quote from: MUBurrow on March 01, 2026, 05:25:10 PMNormally I would agree with this, but are we sure that applies here? The US President also happens to be the dumbest bitch on the planet, and doesn't consistently price in any advice or intel. I'm not sure there is any reason to believe 4-D chess is being played.

Plus my comment was just in reply to another poster. I wasn't writing a treatise on the war.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on March 01, 2026, 06:13:24 PM
Why does Barron hate America? Or is he just a coward like his pedo-daddy?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: GB Warrior on March 01, 2026, 06:45:47 PM
Quote from: Jockey on March 01, 2026, 06:13:24 PMWhy does Barron hate America? Or is he just a coward like his pedo-daddy?

Are you slighting the very hereditary nature of bone spurs
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jay Bee on March 01, 2026, 07:10:17 PM
Quote from: MU82 on March 01, 2026, 11:14:01 AMBlood on Capt. Bone Spur's tiny hands.


Seems political.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 01, 2026, 07:14:44 PM
Quote from: Jay Bee on March 01, 2026, 07:10:17 PMSeems political.

War isn't political.  We must defend ourselves from the tyrants that attacked us!
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: WellsstreetWanderer on March 01, 2026, 07:16:55 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/DVUDDEPj1Et/?igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jay Bee on March 01, 2026, 07:18:23 PM
Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 01, 2026, 07:14:44 PMWar isn't political.  We must defend ourselves.

Huh? I'm referring to mu82's "Capt. Bone Spur's tiny hands" comment.

It's ridiculous.

But go cheer on the immigrant killer in Austin who hated America like so many of you do. Sickening.

The rhetoric of "people" like mu82 and so many others is why so much of this happens, and it's shameful.

Lenten prayers to you all.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on March 01, 2026, 07:19:21 PM
Is Dear Leader still bragging about non-existent under $2 gas prices?

https://x.com/i/status/2028264792226464169
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 01, 2026, 07:20:21 PM
Quote from: Jay Bee on March 01, 2026, 07:18:23 PMLenten prayers to you all.

I have been eating a lot of salmon lately.  Thanks.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: forgetful on March 01, 2026, 08:13:32 PM
Quote from: Jay Bee on March 01, 2026, 07:18:23 PMBut go cheer on the immigrant killer in Austin who hated America like so many of you do. Sickening.

Citizen, murderer with mental health issues. Experts in Austin say people need to not jump to conclusions about a man who has a lengthy history of mental health issues.

Apparently you didn't get that memo.

But one can be both upset about the murderer in the US, but also upset about what is going on in this country right now, and the world. They aren't mutually exclusive.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on March 01, 2026, 09:00:08 PM
So much for ridding the world of the Iranian regime.

In a brief telephone interview with The New York Times, Mr. Trump offered several seemingly contradictory visions of how power might be transferred to a new government — or even whether the existing Iranian power structure would run that government or be overthrown.

Among the options he suggested was an outcome similar to what he engineered in Venezuela, in which only the top leader was removed during an American military strike and much of the rest of the government remained in place, but newly willing to work pragmatically with the United States.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/01/us/politics/trump-iran-war-interview.html
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 01, 2026, 09:05:26 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on March 01, 2026, 09:00:08 PMhttps://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/01/us/politics/trump-iran-war-interview.html

I'll use a share for those that want to read:
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/01/us/politics/trump-iran-war-interview.html?unlocked_article_code=1.QFA.eRwS.PXp85mkvfF2J&smid=url-share
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Shaka Shart on March 01, 2026, 09:33:10 PM
Quote from: Jay Bee on March 01, 2026, 07:18:23 PMHuh? I'm referring to mu82's "Capt. Bone Spur's tiny hands" comment.

It's ridiculous.

But go cheer on the immigrant killer in Austin who hated America like so many of you do. Sickening.

The rhetoric of "people" like mu82 and so many others is why so much of this happens, and it's shameful.

Lenten prayers to you all.

Your assertion that a not clever low effort insult of the most powerful man in the country being why 3 are dead and 14 injured is insulting to the victims' memories and your prayers crocodile tears.

Try to hide better hide your glee every time another mass shooter seems to lean opposite of your ideological spectrum.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on March 01, 2026, 09:33:53 PM
Quote from: Jay Bee on March 01, 2026, 07:18:23 PMBut go cheer on the immigrant killer in Austin who hated America like so many of you do. Sickening.
Seems political.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 01, 2026, 09:35:37 PM
Quote from: Shaka Shart on March 01, 2026, 09:33:10 PM3 are dead

These numbers too will be revised.  :(
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Shaka Shart on March 01, 2026, 09:36:30 PM
Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 01, 2026, 09:05:26 PMI'll use a share for those that want to read:
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/01/us/politics/trump-iran-war-interview.html?unlocked_article_code=1.QFA.eRwS.PXp85mkvfF2J&smid=url-share

Honestly, might be in the top 5 funniest things he's said

https://x.com/jonkarl/status/2028299468223676673?s=46
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 01, 2026, 10:58:20 PM
The Saudis are literally caught in the middle here.

The like to play the "We're just good people trying to sell oil" part.  But we all know that's not true, right?

The like to profit off the US. But do they support their brethren more?  Should be fun!
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Shaka Shart on March 01, 2026, 11:51:45 PM
Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 01, 2026, 10:58:20 PMThe Saudis are literally caught in the middle here.

The like to play the "We're just good people trying to sell oil" part.  But we all know that's not true, right?

The like to profit off the US. But do they support their brethren more?  Should be fun!

To be fair it has been almost 25 years since they did 9/11
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 02, 2026, 03:23:56 AM
Quote from: Shaka Shart on March 01, 2026, 11:51:45 PMTo be fair

You're right.  A power vacuum in the region probably (currently) sounds great to them.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on March 02, 2026, 07:22:57 AM
Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 01, 2026, 10:58:20 PMThe Saudis are literally caught in the middle here.

The like to play the "We're just good people trying to sell oil" part.  But we all know that's not true, right?

The like to profit off the US. But do they support their brethren more?  Should be fun!

The Saudis and Iranians hate each other.  Nobody in the region outside Israel wants a defanged Iran more than the Saudis.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on March 02, 2026, 07:30:04 AM
Sounds like a well-coordinated operation.

Three American F-15 fighter jets were shot down over Kuwait in a "friendly fire incident," the U.S. military said Monday, but there were no casualties.

The Air Force fighter jets were "mistakenly shot down by Kuwaiti air defenses," CENTCOM said in a statement, adding that "all six aircrew ejected safely, have been safely recovered, and are in stable condition."


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-f-15-jets-mistakenly-shot-down-kuwait-riendly-fire-crew-safe/
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 02, 2026, 07:39:08 AM
Quote from: Pakuni on March 02, 2026, 07:22:57 AMThe Saudis and Iranians hate each other.  Nobody in the region outside Israel wants a defanged Iran more than the Saudis.

I'm certainly no expert on their relationship, but I understood them to be more frenemies the past few years.

Nonetheless, I generally agree (see my power vacuum comment).
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on March 02, 2026, 07:39:48 AM
Quote from: Pakuni on March 02, 2026, 07:30:04 AMSounds like a well-coordinated operation.



The Air Force fighter jets were "mistakenly shot down by Kuwaiti air defenses," CENTCOM said in a statement, adding that "all six aircrew ejected safely, have been safely recovered, and are in stable condition."




Winning! Give the man his Noble Peace Prize right now.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 02, 2026, 07:43:52 AM
This line in the official note was fun

"we are grateful for the efforts of the Kuwaiti defense forces and their support in this ongoing operation."
https://www.centcom.mil/MEDIA/PRESS-RELEASES/Press-Release-View/Article/4418568/three-us-f-15s-involved-in-friendly-fire-incident-in-kuwait-pilots-safe/
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on March 02, 2026, 09:18:53 AM
Quote from: Pakuni on March 02, 2026, 07:22:57 AMThe Saudis and Iranians hate each other.  Nobody in the region outside Israel wants a defanged Iran more than the Saudis.

Exactly. Saudis and UAE getting some ROI for the cash they heaped on the Trumps and Jarod.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on March 02, 2026, 09:20:39 AM
Quote from: Pakuni on March 02, 2026, 07:30:04 AMSounds like a well-coordinated operation.

Three American F-15 fighter jets were shot down over Kuwait in a "friendly fire incident," the U.S. military said Monday, but there were no casualties.

The Air Force fighter jets were "mistakenly shot down by Kuwaiti air defenses," CENTCOM said in a statement, adding that "all six aircrew ejected safely, have been safely recovered, and are in stable condition."


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-f-15-jets-mistakenly-shot-down-kuwait-riendly-fire-crew-safe/


Imagine the screeching on the right if this happened under Biden. But no worries, part-time weekend Fox host WARFIGHTER has it under control.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Galway Eagle on March 02, 2026, 09:32:09 AM
Quote from: Jay Bee on March 01, 2026, 07:18:23 PMBut go cheer on the immigrant killer in Austin

Guessing he is being recruited to be a member of ICE now?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on March 02, 2026, 09:49:21 AM
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on March 02, 2026, 09:20:39 AMImagine the screeching on the right if this happened under Biden. But no worries, part-time weekend Fox host WARFIGHTER has it under control.

I saw a meme floating around social media (with tens of thousands of likes) saying that we're letting the world know men in dresses aren't in change anymore. Nope, instead we have a guy who makes David Duke's views on race seem moderate, an alcoholic rapist megabro, and a rapist and diddler of underage teens making decisions. Yep, the adults are back in charge!
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on March 02, 2026, 10:53:32 AM
The Peace President

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Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: The Sultan on March 02, 2026, 11:00:41 AM
Quote from: Pakuni on March 02, 2026, 07:30:04 AMSounds like a well-coordinated operation.

Three American F-15 fighter jets were shot down over Kuwait in a "friendly fire incident," the U.S. military said Monday, but there were no casualties.

The Air Force fighter jets were "mistakenly shot down by Kuwaiti air defenses," CENTCOM said in a statement, adding that "all six aircrew ejected safely, have been safely recovered, and are in stable condition."


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-f-15-jets-mistakenly-shot-down-kuwait-riendly-fire-crew-safe/


https://bsky.app/profile/brandonfriedman.bsky.social/post/3mg3o2wu26k2z

This is pretty incredible.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on March 02, 2026, 11:13:54 AM
Quote from: The Sultan on March 02, 2026, 11:00:41 AMhttps://bsky.app/profile/brandonfriedman.bsky.social/post/3mg3o2wu26k2z

This is pretty incredible.

No one is accusing Hegseth of being competent. He was hired because of his history as a lapdog.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on March 02, 2026, 11:41:56 AM
Enormous wannabe warlord Erik Prince is against this??????

https://x.com/TheTNHoller/status/2028331413062160737
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: jficke13 on March 02, 2026, 12:17:21 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on March 02, 2026, 07:30:04 AMSounds like a well-coordinated operation.

Three American F-15 fighter jets were shot down over Kuwait in a "friendly fire incident," the U.S. military said Monday, but there were no casualties.

The Air Force fighter jets were "mistakenly shot down by Kuwaiti air defenses," CENTCOM said in a statement, adding that "all six aircrew ejected safely, have been safely recovered, and are in stable condition."


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-f-15-jets-mistakenly-shot-down-kuwait-riendly-fire-crew-safe/

A joking (kinda) response is that after a Patriot missile system downed 3 F-15s in a day, Lockheed is going to be able to sell it to NATO countries who are increasingly planning to have to fight Americans as "the only SAM system with a proven trackrecord against the USAF"
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on March 02, 2026, 12:46:32 PM
Quote from: The Sultan on March 02, 2026, 11:00:41 AMhttps://bsky.app/profile/brandonfriedman.bsky.social/post/3mg3o2wu26k2z

This is pretty incredible.

"Merit" hire.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MUeng on March 02, 2026, 12:59:38 PM
Quote from: jficke13 on March 02, 2026, 12:17:21 PMA joking (kinda) response is that after a Patriot missile system downed 3 F-15s in a day, Lockheed is going to be able to sell it to NATO countries who are increasingly planning to have to fight Americans as "the only SAM system with a proven trackrecord against the USAF"
I think technically Raytheon is the prime contractor (LM just builds the missile) but interesting point you make to ponder...
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Shaka Shart on March 02, 2026, 01:19:27 PM
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on March 02, 2026, 11:41:56 AMEnormous wannabe warlord Erik Prince is against this??????

https://x.com/TheTNHoller/status/2028331413062160737

Someone was left out of the contracting process
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on March 02, 2026, 01:59:08 PM
Quote from: Shaka Shart on March 02, 2026, 01:19:27 PMSomeone was left out of the contracting process

Someone didn't donate enough to the ballroom.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: jesmu84 on March 02, 2026, 02:36:39 PM
"we didn't start this war...but we're going to finish it"

 :o
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: jesmu84 on March 02, 2026, 02:37:35 PM
So did the US take down Maduro in effort to gain access to cheap Venezuela oil so Israel would have oil supply while attacking Iran?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: jesmu84 on March 02, 2026, 02:39:04 PM
Kuwait - using a US weapon system - shot down US fighters.

Our tax dollars are shooting down our tax dollars.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on March 02, 2026, 02:41:04 PM
Quote from: jesmu84 on March 02, 2026, 02:36:39 PM"we didn't start this war...but we're going to finish it"

 :o

The dude is more of an SNL version of himself than the actual SNL version.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: jesmu84 on March 02, 2026, 02:43:22 PM
Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 01, 2026, 10:58:20 PMThe Saudis are literally caught in the middle here.

The like to play the "We're just good people trying to sell oil" part.  But we all know that's not true, right?

The like to profit off the US. But do they support their brethren more?  Should be fun!

https://x.com/i/status/2028486317256945803
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on March 02, 2026, 03:37:23 PM
We attacked Iran because we knew if Iran was attacked then Iran would attack us, so we needed to attack Iran before they were attacked and attacked us.

https://x.com/Acyn/status/2028574121483993523?s=20
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on March 02, 2026, 03:43:55 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on March 02, 2026, 03:37:23 PMWe attacked Iran because we knew if Iran was attacked then Iran would attack us, so we needed to attack Iran before they were attacked and attacked us.

https://x.com/Acyn/status/2028574121483993523?s=20

It sounds like Little Marco was partaking with Secretary Kegstand before his press conference.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: jesmu84 on March 02, 2026, 04:44:40 PM
Lol

European countries that will be short of their needed energy supply due to impacts to Gulf state LNG and oil production will turn to Russia.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on March 02, 2026, 04:54:27 PM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 02, 2026, 03:43:55 PMIt sounds like Little Marco was partaking with Secretary Kegstand before his press conference.

During brunch at Kavanaugh's house?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: forgetful on March 02, 2026, 07:48:37 PM
If I'm China right now, and I have a goal of taking Taiwan, I start funneling missiles/drones/weapons to Iran to try to exhaust our interceptor ability. If they exhaust it enough, Iran might even be able to take out some of our fleet.

Then, surprise attack on Taiwan, when the US doesn't have the assets to cover/retaliate.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Badgerhater on March 02, 2026, 07:50:31 PM
X says that Jordan shot down two Iranian missiles.

LeBron never did that.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: forgetful on March 02, 2026, 08:05:23 PM
Are we supposed to believe that somehow Iran was able to get drones through to the US Embassy in Riyadh almost 700 miles from the coast. So Iran was able to get drones across the Red Sea, across 700 miles of Saudi air space, all the way to not only the capital, but the US Embassy without being intercepted?

Seems fishy, almost unbelievable.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: jesmu84 on March 02, 2026, 08:16:47 PM
Quote from: forgetful on March 02, 2026, 08:05:23 PMAre we supposed to believe that somehow Iran was able to get drones through to the US Embassy in Riyadh almost 700 miles from the coast. So Iran was able to get drones across the Red Sea, across 700 miles of Saudi air space, all the way to not only the capital, but the US Embassy without being intercepted?

Seems fishy, almost unbelievable.

The saudis want Iran gone as well
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on March 02, 2026, 08:29:44 PM
The definition of chutzpah? Netanyahu complaining today that the Iranians are hitting civilians.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Shaka Shart on March 02, 2026, 09:16:36 PM
Hmm

https://jonathanlarsen.substack.com/p/us-troops-were-told-iran-war-is-for
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Galway Eagle on March 02, 2026, 09:22:29 PM
Quote from: Shaka Shart on March 02, 2026, 09:16:36 PMHmm

https://jonathanlarsen.substack.com/p/us-troops-were-told-iran-war-is-for

Kash Patel already telling them he'll "see them in Valhalla!"
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on March 03, 2026, 08:07:49 AM
Is it bad that Ka$h fired the Iran experts at the FBI last week?

Gosh, it's almost like we are trying to make ourselves vulnerable, wonder why.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Shaka Shart on March 03, 2026, 09:29:56 AM
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on March 03, 2026, 08:07:49 AMIs it bad that Ka$h fired the Iran experts at the FBI last week?

Gosh, it's almost like we are trying to make ourselves vulnerable, wonder why.

Real men overcome adversity, loser
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on March 03, 2026, 09:30:24 AM
Some Milwaukee radio windbag named Dan O'Donnell said, "Now take out the Supreme Leader of Minnesota."

As someone on Reddit said, years ago that would have gotten him a visit from the FBI but now he'll probably get invited to the White House.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Shaka Shart on March 03, 2026, 09:31:52 AM
Quote from: MU82 on March 03, 2026, 09:30:24 AMSome Milwaukee radio windbag named Dan O'Donnell said, "Now take out the Supreme Leader of Minnesota."

As someone on Reddit said, years ago that would have gotten him a visit from the FBI but now he'll probably get invited to the White House.

I would have thought that was Homer saying that
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 03, 2026, 11:02:01 AM
It's good to know that the US forced Israel into this war.  Seems totally legit.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TallTitan34 on March 03, 2026, 12:12:35 PM
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on March 03, 2026, 08:07:49 AMIs it bad that Ka$h fired the Iran experts at the FBI last week?

Is it bad the reason he fired them was because they had been assigned to the Trump classified documents investigation?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on March 03, 2026, 12:30:42 PM
Quote from: Shaka Shart on March 02, 2026, 09:16:36 PMHmm

https://jonathanlarsen.substack.com/p/us-troops-were-told-iran-war-is-for

Let ye who hath not engaged in adultery with his multiple wives, been married thrice and divorced twice, settled a sexual assault accusation, and had an out-of-wedlock child with a mistress cast the first stone.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on March 03, 2026, 12:34:55 PM
Maybe Trump started the war to distract from Kristi Noem's testimony before the Senate today.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jay Bee on March 03, 2026, 01:34:35 PM
"War with Iran" or "Liberal Circle J3rk"?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: GB Warrior on March 03, 2026, 01:47:27 PM
https://x.com/mynamehear/status/2028858521211514946?s=46
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 03, 2026, 01:47:55 PM
Quote from: Jay Bee on March 03, 2026, 01:34:35 PM"War with Iran" or "Liberal Circle J3rk"?

I searched for both terms, and news only came up for the first one.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on March 03, 2026, 02:05:07 PM
Quote from: Jay Bee on March 03, 2026, 01:34:35 PM"War with Iran" or "Liberal Circle J3rk"?

A whole bunch of right-wingers are none too happy with this pointless war as well because--I know this will come as a great surprise--Trump lied about not starting any new wars. But give them time, I'm sure they'll all fall back in line like the little grifter army they are.

But hey, I for one am on pins and needles waiting to hear your take on it.

Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: #UnleashThePortal on March 03, 2026, 02:33:18 PM
The mental gymnastics
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on March 03, 2026, 02:38:46 PM
Rubio is changing his story yet again, now saying we attacked Iran because they were about to attack us.
Which is even less credible than yesterday's justification.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: jesmu84 on March 03, 2026, 03:25:41 PM
Allegedly, mossad agents captured in other Gulf countries while planning terrorist attacks.

Israel. Sheesh.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 03, 2026, 04:20:21 PM
Quote from: jesmu84 on March 03, 2026, 03:25:41 PMAllegedly

Is there a source other than Tucker?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: jesmu84 on March 03, 2026, 04:35:23 PM
Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 03, 2026, 04:20:21 PMIs there a source other than Tucker?

Tbh, didn't know it came from Tucker.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: jesmu84 on March 03, 2026, 04:35:47 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on March 03, 2026, 02:38:46 PMRubio is changing his story yet again, now saying we attacked Iran because they were about to attack us.
Which is even less credible than yesterday's justification.

Wait.

USA attacks Iran because they had intelligence that if Iran was attacked by Israel, then Iran would retaliatory attack US forces in the region.

Why did the USA not just tell Israel to not attack Iran? Problem solved

So, Israel is controlling the USA sovereignty?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 03, 2026, 04:45:21 PM
Quote from: jesmu84 on March 03, 2026, 04:35:23 PMTbh, didn't know it came from Tucker.

I just googled to see for myself, and he was the only source I found.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on March 03, 2026, 04:53:45 PM
Quote from: jesmu84 on March 03, 2026, 04:35:47 PMWait.

USA attacks Iran because they had intelligence that if Iran was attacked by Israel, then Iran would retaliatory attack US forces in the region.

Why did the USA not just tell Israel to not attack Iran? Problem solved

So, Israel is controlling the USA sovereignty?

No, no, no. That was yesterday's spin.
Once they realized what a bad look that was, they came up with today's spin - that Iran was about to launch a conventional war against the United States and we needed to act first. Very believable.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: #UnleashThePortal on March 03, 2026, 05:22:37 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on March 03, 2026, 02:38:46 PMRubio is changing his story yet again, now saying we attacked Iran because they were about to attack us.
Which is even less credible than yesterday's justification.

I'm imagining a 24 Jack Bauer type story to be coming out soon.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: GB Warrior on March 03, 2026, 05:49:54 PM
Quote from: jesmu84 on March 03, 2026, 04:35:47 PMWait.

USA attacks Iran because they had intelligence that if Iran was attacked by Israel, then Iran would retaliatory attack US forces in the region.

Why did the USA not just tell Israel to not attack Iran? Problem solved

So, Israel is controlling the USA sovereignty?

Yes. I yearn for simpler times when our leader was influenced by innocuous things like his pee tapes.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Shaka Shart on March 03, 2026, 06:33:48 PM
Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 03, 2026, 01:47:55 PMI searched for both terms, and news only came up for the first one.

The second one you can find in JB's Google search
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: GB Warrior on March 03, 2026, 06:42:30 PM
Quote from: Shaka Shart on March 03, 2026, 06:33:48 PMThe second one you can find in JB's Google search

Cum to my new Caribbean pizza joint
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on March 03, 2026, 08:31:13 PM
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on March 03, 2026, 02:05:07 PMA whole bunch of right-wingers are none too happy with this pointless war as well because--I know this will come as a great surprise--Trump lied about not starting any new wars.

Yup. 42% of Republicans surveyed by Reuters said they would be less likely �to support the Iran campaign if it leads to "U.S. troops in the Middle East being killed or injured."

Additionally, a large swath of MAGA influencers have condemned the war.

Apparently, a "MAGA Circle J3rk."
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: forgetful on March 03, 2026, 11:09:02 PM
Saudi Arabia is really winning right now.

China used to get oil from Venezuela and Iran. Both cutoff.

Saudi Arabia is their new supplier.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: CreightonWarrior on March 04, 2026, 07:00:03 AM
Quote from: MU82 on March 03, 2026, 08:31:13 PMYup. 42% of Republicans surveyed by Reuters said they would be less likely �to support the Iran campaign if it leads to "U.S. troops in the Middle East being killed or injured."

Additionally, a large swath of MAGA influencers have condemned the war.

Apparently, a "MAGA Circle J3rk."
our woke King Charlie Kirk was against it
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on March 04, 2026, 09:48:37 AM
Hegseth is mad because reporting on the deaths of American soldiers makes Trump look bad.
jfc with these people.

https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/2029192590491349260?s=20
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on March 04, 2026, 10:22:32 AM
One can keep going back and forth on which clown is the most incompetent Cabinet member of the Idiocracy. Hegseth is always solidly in contention, though.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Galway Eagle on March 04, 2026, 10:36:05 AM
Quote from: Pakuni on March 04, 2026, 09:48:37 AMHegseth is mad because reporting on the deaths of American soldiers makes Trump look bad.
jfc with these people.

https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/2029192590491349260?s=20

"Let's not complain about 'who killed who' this is supposed to be a happy occasion!"
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Hards Alumni on March 04, 2026, 01:10:09 PM
Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 01, 2026, 10:58:20 PMThe Saudis are literally caught in the middle here.

The like to play the "We're just good people trying to sell oil" part.  But we all know that's not true, right?

The like to profit off the US. But do they support their brethren more?  Should be fun!

KSA does not like Iran.  They're directly opposed to them in the region.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Hards Alumni on March 04, 2026, 01:21:41 PM
Quote from: Jay Bee on March 03, 2026, 01:34:35 PM"War with Iran" or "Liberal Circle J3rk"?

You're defending this?????????????????????????????
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Galway Eagle on March 04, 2026, 02:12:08 PM
Quote from: Hards Alumni on March 04, 2026, 01:21:41 PMYou're defending this?????????????????????????????

I think he said what he said so that he can fall back on "I'm not defending it I think you all have been chomping at the bit for this and are actual enemy because you're happy you were eventually right that Trump made such a ridiculous decision!"
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: #UnleashThePortal on March 05, 2026, 11:26:01 AM
The secretary of war being flabbergasted at a cheap technology that's been on display for 3 years in a certain war..... That's irony right?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Hards Alumni on March 05, 2026, 11:48:21 AM
Quote from: #UnleashJosh on March 05, 2026, 11:26:01 AMThe secretary of war being flabbergasted at a cheap technology that's been on display for 3 years in a certain war..... That's irony right?

He's an unqualified moron.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on March 05, 2026, 12:16:58 PM
I just hope JD is sending a hearty "thank you" to Ukraine this morning.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: The Sultan on March 05, 2026, 12:36:32 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on March 05, 2026, 12:16:58 PMI just hope JD is sending a hearty "thank you" to Ukraine this morning.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cr5llg0e9g9o

It really is incredibly embarrassing how unprepared we were for the consequences of our actions.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TallTitan34 on March 05, 2026, 12:40:50 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on March 05, 2026, 12:16:58 PMI just hope JD is sending a hearty "thank you" to Ukraine this morning.

Hope he wore a suit.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on March 05, 2026, 01:17:55 PM
So, what is the over/under  of the number of days days until Corey lewendowski tells the skank to hit the road?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Spaniel with a Short Tail on March 05, 2026, 04:07:51 PM
Some background on the torpedoing of the Iranian ship in the Indian Ocean.

"The Iranian ship will not be where it was if we had not invited it to take part in our Milan exercise. We were the hosts. I am told that as per protocol for this exercise ships cannot carry any ammunition. It was defenceless. The Iranian naval personnel had paraded before our president," wrote Kanwal Sibal, a former Indian Foreign Secretary on X . "The attack by the US submarine was premeditated as the US was aware of the Iranian ship's presence in the exercise to which the US navy was invited but withdrew from participation at the last minute, presumably with this operation in mind. The US has ignored India's sensitivities as the ship was in these waters because of India's invitation. We are far from politically or militarily responsible for the US attack. Our 'responsibility' is at a moral and human plane."
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: wadesworld on March 05, 2026, 04:52:02 PM
Are we actually bombing paintings of F14s or is that some social media fake news?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: jesmu84 on March 05, 2026, 05:45:20 PM
Quote from: Spaniel with a Short Tail on March 05, 2026, 04:07:51 PMSome background on the torpedoing of the Iranian ship in the Indian Ocean.

"The Iranian ship will not be where it was if we had not invited it to take part in our Milan exercise. We were the hosts. I am told that as per protocol for this exercise ships cannot carry any ammunition. It was defenceless. The Iranian naval personnel had paraded before our president," wrote Kanwal Sibal, a former Indian Foreign Secretary on X . "The attack by the US submarine was premeditated as the US was aware of the Iranian ship's presence in the exercise to which the US navy was invited but withdrew from participation at the last minute, presumably with this operation in mind. The US has ignored India's sensitivities as the ship was in these waters because of India's invitation. We are far from politically or militarily responsible for the US attack. Our 'responsibility' is at a moral and human plane."

https://x.com/i/status/2029571443663532534
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on March 05, 2026, 05:53:24 PM
Quote from: jesmu84 on March 05, 2026, 05:45:20 PMhttps://x.com/i/status/2029571443663532534

Any expectation of morality at this point is just an exercise in futility.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: cheebs09 on March 05, 2026, 06:43:47 PM
Ugh. So we are the bad guys and not even hiding it at this point.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MUeng on March 05, 2026, 07:31:39 PM
We're all witnesses to secretary kegstand living out some bizarre Call of Duty fantasy
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on March 05, 2026, 07:39:22 PM
Quote from: MUeng on March 05, 2026, 07:31:39 PMWe're all witnesses to secretary kegstand living out some bizarre Call of Duty fantasy

Like, literally.

The White House stunned social media users Wednesday when it posted a video mixing real footage of the missile strikes in Iran with footage from the video game Call of Duty, set to an instrumental version of Childish Gambino's song "Bonfire."

The roughly one-minute-long video, captioned "Courtesy of the Red, White & Blue," struck an energetic and playful tone as it began with a sequence featured in Call of Duty: Modern Warfare III in which a player can activate a "nuke."

Real footage of the missile strikes, which have left more than 1,000 dead in Iran, is then cut together as the fast-paced and dynamic beat plays. At certain points, a voiceover from the video game cuts in to say "We're winning this fight" and "We've taken control."


https://ca.news.yahoo.com/anger-over-white-house-iran-183955576.html
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on March 05, 2026, 08:29:24 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on March 05, 2026, 07:39:22 PMLike, literally.

The White House stunned social media users Wednesday when it posted a video mixing real footage of the missile strikes in Iran with footage from the video game Call of Duty, set to an instrumental version of Childish Gambino's song "Bonfire."

The roughly one-minute-long video, captioned "Courtesy of the Red, White & Blue," struck an energetic and playful tone as it began with a sequence featured in Call of Duty: Modern Warfare III in which a player can activate a "nuke."

Real footage of the missile strikes, which have left more than 1,000 dead in Iran, is then cut together as the fast-paced and dynamic beat plays. At certain points, a voiceover from the video game cuts in to say "We're winning this fight" and "We've taken control."


https://ca.news.yahoo.com/anger-over-white-house-iran-183955576.html

MAGA porn
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jay Bee on March 05, 2026, 09:55:55 PM
we r fuk'd after Noem's dismissal.

Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: forgetful on March 05, 2026, 10:23:25 PM
Quote from: Spaniel with a Short Tail on March 05, 2026, 04:07:51 PMSome background on the torpedoing of the Iranian ship in the Indian Ocean.

"The Iranian ship will not be where it was if we had not invited it to take part in our Milan exercise. We were the hosts. I am told that as per protocol for this exercise ships cannot carry any ammunition. It was defenceless. The Iranian naval personnel had paraded before our president," wrote Kanwal Sibal, a former Indian Foreign Secretary on X . "The attack by the US submarine was premeditated as the US was aware of the Iranian ship's presence in the exercise to which the US navy was invited but withdrew from participation at the last minute, presumably with this operation in mind. The US has ignored India's sensitivities as the ship was in these waters because of India's invitation. We are far from politically or militarily responsible for the US attack. Our 'responsibility' is at a moral and human plane."

Was about to post something on this too. Since we were supposed to be part of the excercise, we knew it was unarmed, and only knew where the vessel was because of it. We still sunk it.

Absolutely disgusting. We should all be ashamed.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Shaka Shart on March 05, 2026, 11:05:43 PM
Quote from: Hards Alumni on March 05, 2026, 11:48:21 AMHe's an unqualified moron.

Dental thread is a bit more down the superbar
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Hards Alumni on March 06, 2026, 06:08:20 AM
Quote from: Jay Bee on March 05, 2026, 09:55:55 PMwe r fuk'd after Noem's dismissal.



Did not realize you were part canine.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jay Bee on March 06, 2026, 08:28:46 AM
Quote from: Hards Alumni on March 06, 2026, 06:08:20 AMDid not realize you were part canine.

I got dat dawg in me (pawz)
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: CreightonWarrior on March 06, 2026, 08:29:17 AM
Quote from: wadesworld on March 05, 2026, 04:52:02 PMAre we actually bombing paintings of F14s or is that some social media fake news?
there's absolutely no way to know what's true or fake. It's just too easy on all sides to post propaganda.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on March 06, 2026, 08:38:47 AM


WASHINGTON, March 5 (Reuters) - President Donald Trump said on Thursday he was not concerned about rising U.S. gas prices driven by the widening Iran conflict, telling Reuters �in an exclusive interview that the U.S. military operation was his priority.

"I don't have any concern about it," he said, when asked about the higher prices at ‌the pump. "They'll drop very rapidly when this is over, and if they rise, they rise, but this is far more important than having gasoline prices go up a little bit."

(https://i.makeagif.com/media/5-08-2021/azrTPT.gif)
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on March 06, 2026, 08:59:55 AM
Quote from: Jay Bee on March 05, 2026, 09:55:55 PMwe r fuk'd after Noem's dismissal.

There will surely be a downturn in the private luxury jet/flying adultery palace market.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Hards Alumni on March 06, 2026, 09:28:57 AM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 06, 2026, 08:38:47 AMWASHINGTON, March 5 (Reuters) - President Donald Trump said on Thursday he was not concerned about rising U.S. gas prices driven by the widening Iran conflict, telling Reuters �in an exclusive interview that the U.S. military operation was his priority.

"I don't have any concern about it," he said, when asked about the higher prices at ‌the pump. "They'll drop very rapidly when this is over, and if they rise, they rise, but this is far more important than having gasoline prices go up a little bit."

(https://i.makeagif.com/media/5-08-2021/azrTPT.gif)

Ridiculous that there is no follow up question like, "How does this make America great again, President Trump.  Do you think it is right to ask the American public to financially shoulder more wasteful spending?  What will the average American gain from this campaign?"

They're so lazy.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on March 06, 2026, 09:33:02 AM
Quote from: Hards Alumni on March 06, 2026, 09:28:57 AMRidiculous that there is no follow up question like, "How does this make America great again, President Trump.  Do you think it is right to ask the American public to financially shoulder more wasteful spending?  What will the average American gain from this campaign?"

They're so lazy.

He would have just said gas prices are under $2/gallon at his imaginary gas stations like he did during the SOTU. Or maybe he's looking at pictures of gas stations prices in Canada.

(https://dht7q8fif4gks.cloudfront.net/2023-01/gas%20prices%20jan%2024%202023.jpg)
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on March 06, 2026, 11:18:07 AM
So, on the same day the Washington Post reports that Russia is giving Iran intelligence to target U.S. troops in the Gulf, the Trump administration announces it's easing oil sanctions on Russia.
Weird.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on March 06, 2026, 12:23:59 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on March 06, 2026, 11:18:07 AMSo, on the same day the Washington Post reports that Russia is giving Iran intelligence to target U.S. troops in the Gulf, the Trump administration announces it's easing oil sanctions on Russia.
Weird.

Putin's puppet just doing his thing.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on March 06, 2026, 03:36:44 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on March 06, 2026, 11:18:07 AMSo, on the same day the Washington Post reports that Russia is giving Iran intelligence to target U.S. troops in the Gulf, the Trump administration announces it's easing oil sanctions on Russia.
Weird.

More on this ...

WASHINGTON (AP) — Russia has provided Iran with information that could help Tehran strike American warships, aircraft and other assets in the region, according to two officials familiar with U.S. intelligence on the matter.

The officials, who were not authorized to comment publicly on the sensitive matter and spoke on the condition of anonymity, cautioned that the U.S. intelligence has not uncovered that Russia is directing Iran on what to do with the information as the U.S. and Israel continue their bombardment and Iran fires retaliatory salvos at American assets and allies in the Persian Gulf.

Still, it's the first indication that Moscow has sought to get involved in the war that the U.S. and Israel launched on Iran a week ago. Russia is in the rare club of countries that maintains friendly relations with Tehran, which has faced years of isolation over its nuclear program and its support of proxy groups that have wreaked havoc in the Middle East, including Hezbollah, Hamas and the Houthis.


All of Trump's butt-kissing, including giving Putin the red-carpet treatment on U.S. soil, and this is what he gets for it. Those pee-pee tapes must be a real barnburner.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: jesmu84 on March 07, 2026, 09:06:27 AM
3rd carrier strike group headed to Iran.

Trump admin talking more about boots on ground.

$1 billion/day increasing. Plus lives lost.

We aren't a serious country.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: #UnleashThePortal on March 07, 2026, 09:22:48 AM
Ahhhh.... The third Middle eastern war in my life. But who needs healthcare or social security?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: jesmu84 on March 07, 2026, 09:30:49 AM
Why isn't anyone asking how we're gonna pay for this?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on March 07, 2026, 10:36:38 AM
Quote from: MU82 on March 06, 2026, 03:36:44 PMAll of Trump's butt-kissing, including giving Putin the red-carpet treatment on U.S. soil, and this is what he gets for it. Those pee-pee tapes must be a real barnburner.

I am fairly convinced that "P tapes" refer to Pedophile Tapes and that Putin has all of them. And why wouldn't he, with Epstein having close ties with the Kremlin. I don't see any other explanation for how Trump has sold out the U.S. to Moscow.

The real tragedy is the complete failure of the media to call out his treasonous behavior.


Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: forgetful on March 07, 2026, 11:06:38 AM
The best case scenario end goal of this was something that was already on the table.

The Venezuela solution. The best case is a religious leader, essentially the same as was already there, but agrees to work with/invest in the US.

The stupid thing. Iran already offered to work with and invest in the US. It could have been accomplished by simply taking their offer to invest in the US, increase oil trade with the US, dilute their Uranium stocks.

But we wanted to look tough. So billions will be wasted, tons of innocent civilians will die, the average US citizen will see costs rise, and troops will die.

And new leaders will still clandestinely work on weapons.

Even the best case scenario is not worth it.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: #UnleashThePortal on March 07, 2026, 11:48:12 AM
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on March 07, 2026, 10:36:38 AMI am fairly convinced that "P tapes" refer to Pedophile Tapes and that Putin has all of them. And why wouldn't he, with Epstein having close ties with the Kremlin. I don't see any other explanation for how Trump has sold out the U.S. to Moscow.

The real tragedy is the complete failure of the media to call out his treasonous behavior.




Meh, this war with iran hurts Russia more in the war with Ukraine than it hurts Ukraine.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: jesmu84 on March 07, 2026, 04:03:47 PM
https://x.com/i/status/2030113653215686878
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: jesmu84 on March 07, 2026, 04:04:41 PM
Quote from: forgetful on March 07, 2026, 11:06:38 AMThe best case scenario end goal of this was something that was already on the table.

The Venezuela solution. The best case is a religious leader, essentially the same as was already there, but agrees to work with/invest in the US.

The stupid thing. Iran already offered to work with and invest in the US. It could have been accomplished by simply taking their offer to invest in the US, increase oil trade with the US, dilute their Uranium stocks.

But we wanted to look tough. So billions will be wasted, tons of innocent civilians will die, the average US citizen will see costs rise, and troops will die.

And new leaders will still clandestinely work on weapons.

Even the best case scenario is not worth it.

Plus it will confirm any negative US sentiment within the country, leading to further radicalization where there might not have been before.

9/11 didn't happen for no reason.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: forgetful on March 07, 2026, 04:54:07 PM
Quote from: #UnleashJosh on March 07, 2026, 09:22:48 AMAhhhh.... The third Middle eastern war in my life. But who needs healthcare or social security?

There would be a lot more peace in the Middle East if it wasn't for the US.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Scoop Snoop on March 07, 2026, 05:27:22 PM
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on March 07, 2026, 10:36:38 AMI am fairly convinced that "P tapes" refer to Pedophile Tapes and that Putin has all of them. And why wouldn't he, with Epstein having close ties with the Kremlin. I don't see any other explanation for how Trump has sold out the U.S. to Moscow.

The real tragedy is the complete failure of the media to call out his treasonous behavior.

I believe there is something that Putin has over Trump, but it is only a suspicion. "Fairly convinced...pedophile tapes" and "I don't see any other explanation"?

I absolutely hate what Orange Jesus has done and is continuing to do, but I think a rewording of this post would be a good idea. It makes you sound like Laura Loomer.   

Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on March 07, 2026, 06:07:00 PM
My in-laws in Poland say Polish media has been reporting forever that he's compromised by the Russians.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Scoop Snoop on March 07, 2026, 06:26:38 PM
Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on March 07, 2026, 06:07:00 PMMy in-laws in Poland say Polish media has been reporting forever that he's compromised by the Russians.

Oh, I do not doubt it, but I have seen no solid evidence. But why mimic the MO of people like Leavitt and Loomer? That was my point.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on March 07, 2026, 08:50:42 PM
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on March 07, 2026, 06:26:38 PMOh, I do not doubt it, but I have seen no solid evidence. But why mimic the MO of people like Leavitt and Loomer? That was my point.

Those people are so stone cold crazy that anyone making a rational argument against them will sound almost as crazy.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on March 08, 2026, 08:00:45 AM
I'm loving the Colin Jost imitation of Secretary Kegstand.  They even threw one in last night to kick off the cold open.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on March 08, 2026, 09:51:44 AM
Quote from: #UnleashJosh on March 07, 2026, 11:48:12 AMMeh, this war with iran hurts Russia more in the war with Ukraine than it hurts Ukraine.

I am not talking about the war, I am talking about all the actions and policies that Trump undertakes that help Russia and Putin...specifically in this case the juxtaposition of Russia helping Iran target our soldiers while simultaneously we ease sanctions on Russia.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on March 08, 2026, 10:05:31 AM
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on March 07, 2026, 05:27:22 PMI believe there is something that Putin has over Trump, but it is only a suspicion. "Fairly convinced...pedophile tapes" and "I don't see any other explanation"?

I absolutely hate what Orange Jesus has done and is continuing to do, but I think a rewording of this post would be a good idea. It makes you sound like Laura Loomer.   

You can call it a crazy conspiracy theory if you would like. Trump's actions make it abundantly clear he is under Putin's thumb. So what then is this "something" Putin has over Trump that would make him act the way that he does towards Putin?

Money laundering? Almost 100% certainty. Is that enough to explain his actions, however? Not IMHO.

Video of Trump when he was in Moscow trying to pitch real estate? Again, almost 100% certainty. Pee tape? I'm not sure that would really slow Trump down since he is incapable of shame.

So what then, is this "something" Putin has over Trump? I'm placing a very large bet on proof of pedophilia.


Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: The Sultan on March 08, 2026, 10:07:25 AM
I actually just think he likes Putin. Like every authoritarian who flatters him.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Scoop Snoop on March 08, 2026, 10:28:31 AM
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on March 08, 2026, 10:05:31 AMYou can call it a crazy conspiracy theory if you would like. Trump's actions make it abundantly clear he is under Putin's thumb. So what then is this "something" Putin has over Trump that would make him act the way that he does towards Putin?

Money laundering? Almost 100% certainty. Is that enough to explain his actions, however? Not IMHO.

Video of Trump when he was in Moscow trying to pitch real estate? Again, almost 100% certainty. Pee tape? I'm not sure that would really slow Trump down since he is incapable of shame.

So what then, is this "something" Putin has over Trump? I'm placing a very large bet on proof of pedophilia.


To repeat-I have no doubt that in addition to what is known about him, there is a mountain of evidence of a huge array of other abuses. Floating theories/stories/explanations/conspiracies is what he and his army of bootlickers do. I think that responding in kind unintentionally legitimizes their tactics. Can we agree that is NOT your intent? 
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on March 08, 2026, 10:48:14 AM
Quote from: The Sultan on March 08, 2026, 10:07:25 AMI actually just think he likes Putin. Like every authoritarian who flatters him.

Yep.
Trump admires Putin because Putin is the kind of leader Trump wishes he could be. Same with MBS, Orban, Xi and, probably to a lesser extent, Kim Jong Un.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on March 08, 2026, 11:04:35 AM
Quote from: The Sultan on March 08, 2026, 10:07:25 AMI actually just think he likes Putin. Like every authoritarian who flatters him.

There is no question he loves Putin. He envies Putin's dictatorial control, his ability to steal billions of dollars, and most of all his ability to murder his enemies without repercussion.

IMO, that's not enough to explain his actions.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on March 08, 2026, 11:09:57 AM
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on March 08, 2026, 10:28:31 AMTo repeat-I have no doubt that in addition to what is known about him, there is a mountain of evidence of a huge array of other abuses. Floating theories/stories/explanations/conspiracies is what he and his army of bootlickers do. I think that responding in kind unintentionally legitimizes their tactics. Can we agree that is NOT your intent? 

Really? We can't try to explain what the motivations behind his actions are because if we do that makes us Laura Loomer?

You say that you have "no doubt...there is a mountain of evidence of a huge array of other abuses", but if I say it's hard proof of the Epstein Files that's a bridge too far?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Scoop Snoop on March 08, 2026, 11:34:32 AM
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on March 08, 2026, 11:09:57 AMReally? We can't try to explain what the motivations behind his actions are because if we do that makes us Laura Loomer?

You say that you have "no doubt...there is a mountain of evidence of a huge array of other abuses", but if I say it's hard proof of the Epstein Files that's a bridge too far?

I really hope you are not a defense attorney. Or a prosecutor .
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on March 08, 2026, 12:04:34 PM
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on March 08, 2026, 11:34:32 AMI really hope you are not a defense attorney. Or a prosecutor .

Non-answer.

If you have "no doubt...there is a mountain of evidence of a huge array of other abuses" what exactly are they, in your opinion?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on March 08, 2026, 03:15:51 PM
Netanyahu Finally Got What He Wanted on Iran by Appealing to an Audience of One

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/netanyahu-finally-got-what-he-wanted-on-iran-by-appealing-to-an-audience-of-one-a0d39c7b?

JERUSALEM—The Oct. 7, 2023, attack on Israel was the greatest security failure of Benjamin Netanyahu's career. Less than three years later, the Israeli prime minister is pursuing what may become his defining strategic achievement: toppling the Islamic Republic of Iran.

The campaign, undertaken side by side with the Americans, would transform the region's strategic landscape with Israel as an unrivaled military power. And it would mark a stunning success for Netanyahu, who has long argued that the threat from Tehran isn't only Israel's problem but America's as well.

Central to that success was Netanyahu's belief that the most important audience for Israel's case against Iran was the American president.

"He poured his efforts into an audience of one—President Trump," said Aviv Bushinsky, a former adviser to Netanyahu.

The strategy helped bring the U.S. directly into Israel's confrontation with Iran. But it also leaves both leaders exposed if the campaign falters.

The risks remain high. The American public largely opposes the campaign, and parts of Trump's MAGA base accuse Netanyahu of dragging the U.S. into Israel's war. Iran's regime could survive and draw the U.S. into a prolonged conflict blamed on Israel. If it collapses, Iran could fracture and destabilize the region.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: The Sultan on March 08, 2026, 03:50:03 PM
If?

This isn't going to work. No regime change happens due to just lobbing a bunch of bombs. Instead you have just given a chaos agent country the excuse to unleash more chaos. Why would they negotiate now? And "boots on the ground" would just be a disaster.

This was never in our strategic interests. And now there is no clear way to get out of this mess.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on March 08, 2026, 06:58:51 PM
Quote from: The Sultan on March 08, 2026, 03:50:03 PMIf?

This isn't going to work. No regime change happens due to just lobbing a bunch of bombs. Instead you have just given a chaos agent country the excuse to unleash more chaos. Why would they negotiate now? And "boots on the ground" would just be a disaster.

This was never in our strategic interests. And now there is no clear way to get out of this mess.

You're just playing checkers - trump is playing chess.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on March 08, 2026, 07:30:11 PM
Quote from: Jockey on March 08, 2026, 06:58:51 PMYou're just playing checkers - trump is playing with a 14-year-old's chess chest.

FIFY
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Spaniel with a Short Tail on March 08, 2026, 08:33:50 PM
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Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on March 08, 2026, 10:20:13 PM
Sure makes you wonder whether anyone was buying up oil futures a few weeks ago.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 08, 2026, 10:45:45 PM
Seems like "we've" shot down lots of $30,000 drones with $1,000,000 missiles.  #yourefired
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: forgetful on March 08, 2026, 10:52:03 PM
Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 08, 2026, 10:45:45 PMSeems like "we've" shot down lots of $30,000 drones with $1,000,000 missiles.  #yourefired

We also lost a couple ~$500M-$1B radar units.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 08, 2026, 10:55:07 PM
Quote from: forgetful on March 08, 2026, 10:52:03 PMWe also lost a couple ~$500M-$1B radar units.

The slow roll is because Iran effectively took out US communication equipment  :(
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: #UnleashThePortal on March 08, 2026, 11:05:18 PM
Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 08, 2026, 10:45:45 PMSeems like "we've" shot down lots of $30,000 drones with $1,000,000 missiles.  #yourefired

Absolutely a win for the the military defense contracts to make more.

I wonder who gets the kickback.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 08, 2026, 11:14:14 PM
Quote from: #UnleashJosh on March 08, 2026, 11:05:18 PMAbsolutely a win for the the military defense contracts to make more.

I wonder who gets the kickback.

It's not quite that simple.  Sure, some defense contractors will get some more $, but they're already raking in billions from the government.

The real failure is not understanding that such valuable assets would be shooting down Tonka toys when this whole plan was hatched.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on March 08, 2026, 11:20:33 PM
Turns out that Capt. Bone Spur and War Chief Kegstand lied when they said Iranian missiles hit that school, killing a bunch of children.

From the NYT:

A newly released video adds to the evidence that an American missile likely hit an Iranian elementary school where 175 people, many of them children, were reported killed.

The video, uploaded on Sunday by Iran's semiofficial Mehr News Agency and verified by The New York Times, shows a Tomahawk cruise missile striking a naval base beside the school in the town of Minab on Feb. 28. The U.S. military is the only force involved in the conflict that uses Tomahawk missiles.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on March 09, 2026, 07:27:52 AM
Quote from: MU82 on March 08, 2026, 07:30:11 PMFIFY

13.

Get it right!!!
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jay Bee on March 09, 2026, 08:16:43 AM
So many breaking the written rules in this thread. Disgraceful.

Fortunately for them, the actual rules only apply to some.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on March 09, 2026, 09:38:05 AM
Quote from: Jay Bee on March 01, 2026, 07:18:23 PMBut go cheer on the immigrant killer in Austin who hated America like so many of you do. Sickening.

Quote from: Jay Bee on March 03, 2026, 01:34:35 PM"War with Iran" or "Liberal Circle J3rk"?

Quote from: Jay Bee on March 05, 2026, 09:55:55 PMwe r fuk'd after Noem's dismissal.

Rule-breaker. Disgraceful.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Scoop Snoop on March 09, 2026, 09:48:56 AM
Quote from: Jay Bee on March 09, 2026, 08:16:43 AMSo many breaking the written rules in this thread. Disgraceful.

Fortunately for them, the actual rules only apply to some.

I've had enough of this crap too Jay Bee! It's time the mods step aside and let you run the site.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on March 09, 2026, 10:38:49 AM
Capt. Bone Spur must have had a bad hair day Saturday, when he wore a baseball cap during the solemn ceremony honoring the first six soldiers who died in his unconstitutional war.

Fox News showed footage of him not wearing a cap. When called out on it, spokespeople there said they "inadvertently" used footage from some previous event.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jay Bee on March 09, 2026, 10:42:53 AM
Quote from: MU82 on March 09, 2026, 10:38:49 AMCapt. Bone Spur must have had a bad hair day Saturday, when he wore a baseball cap during the solemn ceremony honoring the first six soldiers who died in his unconstitutional war.

Fox News showed footage of him not wearing a cap. When called out on it, spokespeople there said they "inadvertently" used footage from some previous event.

Good update.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on March 09, 2026, 01:29:53 PM
Quote from: MU82 on March 09, 2026, 10:38:49 AMCapt. Bone Spur must have had a bad hair day Saturday, when he wore a baseball cap during the solemn ceremony honoring the first six soldiers who died in his unconstitutional war.

Fox News showed footage of him not wearing a cap. When called out on it, spokespeople there said they "inadvertently" used footage from some previous event.

Obama wore a tan suit in the Oval Office.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: jesmu84 on March 09, 2026, 03:17:38 PM
US bombed the girl's school in Iran and then double tapped aid workers 20 min later.

AreWeTheBaddies.gif
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: #UnleashThePortal on March 09, 2026, 03:25:22 PM
Quote from: Jay Bee on March 09, 2026, 08:16:43 AMSo many breaking the written rules in this thread. Disgraceful.

Fortunately for them, the actual rules only apply to some.

Mate, if the rules were so lenient to only one side, you'd have been banned months ago.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: The Sultan on March 09, 2026, 03:27:52 PM
Quote from: The Sultan on March 01, 2026, 11:30:00 AMNo my point is that if he sees that it will go bad or popular opinion is massively against this, that he will just declare victory and depart regardless of the dominoes remaining.


As I said...

https://www.cnbc.com/2026/03/09/trump-iran-war-end.html
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: cheebs09 on March 09, 2026, 04:19:42 PM
Quote from: The Sultan on March 09, 2026, 03:27:52 PMAs I said...

https://www.cnbc.com/2026/03/09/trump-iran-war-end.html

Are we getting the Mission Accomplished presser in a few mins?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: jesmu84 on March 09, 2026, 04:36:45 PM
https://x.com/i/status/2031092886410866973

https://x.com/i/status/2031094645279674793

https://x.com/i/status/2030825072194097219
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on March 09, 2026, 04:51:50 PM
The price of oil freaked him out ... as it should have, because it was political suicide and his team is already in trouble for the midterms.

So, with seven American soldiers dead and 150-ish Iranian schoolkids killed, it's getting to be time for us take our bombs and go home.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: The Sultan on March 09, 2026, 05:16:20 PM
Quote from: MU82 on March 09, 2026, 04:51:50 PMThe price of oil freaked him out ... as it should have, because it was political suicide and his team is already in trouble for the midterms.

So, with seven American soldiers dead and 150-ish Iranian schoolkids killed, it's getting to be time for us take our bombs and go home to Cuba.

FIFY
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: #UnleashThePortal on March 09, 2026, 05:31:17 PM
Quote from: cheebs09 on March 09, 2026, 04:19:42 PMAre we getting the Mission Accomplished presser in a few mins?

I felt like I made this joke earlier in the week. But I can't find it. Maybe somewhere else =(
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: #UnleashThePortal on March 09, 2026, 05:32:43 PM
I can't wait for the new leader of Iran, who the US killed the father, mother, sister, and wife of to absolutely not hold any grudges at all.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: The Sultan on March 09, 2026, 05:54:45 PM
https://x.com/atrupar/status/2031132139274543287?s=46&t=ppua9BCUAa7dWM9-SthPmg
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on March 09, 2026, 06:17:37 PM
Perfect.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: cheebs09 on March 09, 2026, 06:56:14 PM
Quote from: The Sultan on March 09, 2026, 05:54:45 PMhttps://x.com/atrupar/status/2031132139274543287?s=46&t=ppua9BCUAa7dWM9-SthPmg

Complete crap shows.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 09, 2026, 07:05:19 PM
The beginning of the end.  So it has been told.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on March 09, 2026, 08:06:27 PM
Quote from: The Sultan on March 09, 2026, 05:54:45 PMhttps://x.com/atrupar/status/2031132139274543287?s=46&t=ppua9BCUAa7dWM9-SthPmg

Sec Kegstand just beginning the keg.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 09, 2026, 10:37:03 PM
Quoteif Iran were to attack ships under U.S. protection transiting the Strait of Hormuz — a potential choke point in the global energy trade — American forces would respond aggressively.

Lol, I though we were already "winning decisively, devastatingly, and without mercy".  Hard to believe there's more aggressive tactics.

Iran would love for the US to send warships through the strait!
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 09, 2026, 11:24:05 PM
Kudos to Israel for the detailed tracking, hah.  Subs are hard to track.

https://www.inss.org.il/publication/us-forces-middle-east/#map
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: #UnleashThePortal on March 10, 2026, 06:28:20 PM
https://www.nbcnews.com/world/iran/live-blog/live-updates-iran-war-oil-prices-trump-hormuz-israel-rcna262670

Even though they won 3 days ago?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: The Sultan on March 10, 2026, 08:31:20 PM
Imagine going into this thinking that you could do "regime change" only to be strategically outflanked like this. Really great job guys.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/10/iranian-regime-is-not-weakening-in-face-of-us-israel-onslaught-but-becoming-more-defiant

"Iran has spurned two messages from Donald Trump's special envoy, Steve Witkoff, seeking a ceasefire as its leaders sense it is not losing the war and the US president is at the minimum feeling the political pressure.

The foreign minister, Abbas Araghchi, has further said a unilateral declaration from Trump that the US had won the war would not bring an end to the conflict. The implication is that even if the US announced a willingness to end its attacks, Iran might be willing to continue the conflict in some form, or keep its chokehold on shipping seeking to navigate the strait of Hormuz.

Iran believes there can be no end to the conflict until it believes Trump has been shown the economic, political and military cost is so high that it is not worth repeating. It is instead insisting on a permanent deal that includes a US commitment not to attack Iran again."
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: forgetful on March 10, 2026, 09:23:39 PM
Quote from: The Sultan on March 10, 2026, 08:31:20 PMImagine going into this thinking that you could do "regime change" only to be strategically outflanked like this. Really great job guys.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/10/iranian-regime-is-not-weakening-in-face-of-us-israel-onslaught-but-becoming-more-defiant

"Iran has spurned two messages from Donald Trump's special envoy, Steve Witkoff, seeking a ceasefire as its leaders sense it is not losing the war and the US president is at the minimum feeling the political pressure.

The foreign minister, Abbas Araghchi, has further said a unilateral declaration from Trump that the US had won the war would not bring an end to the conflict. The implication is that even if the US announced a willingness to end its attacks, Iran might be willing to continue the conflict in some form, or keep its chokehold on shipping seeking to navigate the strait of Hormuz.

Iran believes there can be no end to the conflict until it believes Trump has been shown the economic, political and military cost is so high that it is not worth repeating. It is instead insisting on a permanent deal that includes a US commitment not to attack Iran again."

They accepted a cease fine in the 12-day war, just for the US and Israel to rearm, and once again conduct a surprise preemptive strike. Why would they ever agree to a ceasefire without massive international assurances.

They would have been better off continuing the previous war, and actually attacking US interests instead of warning them.

Also, Iran is still shipping oil to China.

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/irans-control-of-hormuz-means-its-exporting-more-oil-today-than-before-the-war-ede3cd91

Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: #UnleashThePortal on March 11, 2026, 01:47:49 AM
Quote from: forgetful on March 10, 2026, 09:23:39 PMThey accepted a cease fine in the 12-day war, just for the US and Israel to rearm, and once again conduct a surprise preemptive strike. Why would they ever agree to a ceasefire without massive international assurances.

They would have been better off continuing the previous war, and actually attacking US interests instead of warning them.

Also, Iran is still shipping oil to China.

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/irans-control-of-hormuz-means-its-exporting-more-oil-today-than-before-the-war-ede3cd91



The parallels to the Ukraine war are quite eye opening eh?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: jesmu84 on March 11, 2026, 05:43:48 AM
🧵

https://x.com/i/status/2031531835453309125
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 11, 2026, 07:14:43 AM
Are y'all tired of all the winning yet?

- Oligarchs have been given carte blanche over nearly all media

- Christian fundamentalist, woman beating, drunk is in charge of the military

- The economy is a mess (Hi, Goose!)

- The government is murdering American citizens who are protecting their neighbors and documenting the crimes

- The President is being played like a fiddle by a war criminal who should be in jail

- Congress has abdicated all responsibility to a buffoon who is weak in both spirit and mind

- America First has been exposed as a lie as Bone Spurs in Chief has decided to turn America into a pariah so his cronies can make a few extra nickels

- The federal government is punishing states who happen to support a different political party

- The DOJ is corrupt and attacking political opponents while being gutted of its top personnel

- The FBI is run by a manchild who is taking his idiot girlfriend around the world on your tax dollars.  And it's also losing its top people because you have to be loyal not to the constitution but the buffoon in the White House

- We've managed to bring measles back and gut medical and science research to the point of setting us back decades.  Pray it away, idiots.

- We have ambassadors and senators pushing the fiction of a returning Jesus to justify a war with no real goals or end game.  Christians love killing because of Jesus.

- We've purposely decided to destroy the environment so you can save a nickel at the pump.  Whoops, jokes on you, suckers.  Gas prices are still high.

- we want to strip away the right to vote by making it harder for everyone to vote.  Just because the Pedo in Chief can't accept losing.  Just wish we had cheated in 2016 and 2024, too, no?

- And the President is a child rapist but that's ok because mediocre, middle-aged white guys can be openly racist, homophobic, misogynistic and Islamophobic again without consequence.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on March 11, 2026, 08:19:48 AM
That's the Uncle Rico we missed.
Welcome back.

Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on March 11, 2026, 08:20:46 AM
Welcome back, Uncle Rico
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TallTitan34 on March 11, 2026, 08:37:24 AM
He's back!
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Skatastrophy on March 11, 2026, 09:41:24 AM
Quote from: jesmu84 on March 11, 2026, 05:43:48 AM🧵
https://x.com/i/status/203153183545330912
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Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: The Sultan on March 11, 2026, 09:58:36 AM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 11, 2026, 07:14:43 AMAre y'all tired of all the winning yet?

- Oligarchs have been given carte blanche over nearly all media

- Christian fundamentalist, woman beating, drunk is in charge of the military

- The economy is a mess (Hi, Goose!)

- The government is murdering American citizens who are protecting their neighbors and documenting the crimes

- The President is being played like a fiddle by a war criminal who should be in jail

- Congress has abdicated all responsibility to a buffoon who is weak in both spirit and mind

- America First has been exposed as a lie as Bone Spurs in Chief has decided to turn America into a pariah so his cronies can make a few extra nickels

- The federal government is punishing states who happen to support a different political party

- The DOJ is corrupt and attacking political opponents while being gutted of its top personnel

- The FBI is run by a manchild who is taking his idiot girlfriend around the world on your tax dollars.  And it's also losing its top people because you have to be loyal not to the constitution but the buffoon in the White House

- We've managed to bring measles back and gut medical and science research to the point of setting us back decades.  Pray it away, idiots.

- We have ambassadors and senators pushing the fiction of a returning Jesus to justify a war with no real goals or end game.  Christians love killing because of Jesus.

- We've purposely decided to destroy the environment so you can save a nickel at the pump.  Whoops, jokes on you, suckers.  Gas prices are still high.

- we want to strip away the right to vote by making it harder for everyone to vote.  Just because the Pedo in Chief can't accept losing.  Just wish we had cheated in 2016 and 2024, too, no?

- And the President is a child rapist but that's ok because mediocre, middle-aged white guys can be openly racist, homophobic, misogynistic and Islamophobic again without consequence.

It's gotten to the point where the only person who can save us is Brian Wardle.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on March 11, 2026, 10:45:43 AM
Mighty kind of Zelenskyy to provide the U.S. with anti-drone technology. I hope Vance and Drump remember to say thank you.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: onepost on March 11, 2026, 10:49:06 AM
Quote from: cheebs09 on March 09, 2026, 06:56:14 PMComplete crap shows.

Of all the dumb shiit he's ever said, this may truly take the cake.
But hey, at least we stopped talking about the DOJ hiding files related to him possibly raping a minor for a couple weeks. unnatural carnal knowledgeing idiocracy.

(I will say, the story of him making everyone wear matching black shoes he personally picked out and them having to wear ones that don't fit (shoutout Little Marco Rubio) is a nice side story)
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: The Sultan on March 11, 2026, 10:51:54 AM
Quote from: onepost on March 11, 2026, 10:49:06 AMOf all the dumb shiit he's ever said, this may truly take the cake.
But hey, at least we stopped talking about the DOJ hiding files related to him possibly raping a minor for a couple weeks. unnatural carnal knowledgeing idiocracy.

(I will say, the story of him making everyone wear matching black shoes he personally picked out and them having to wear ones that don't fit (shoutout Little Marco Rubio) is a nice side story)


Well, I finally found out something Trump and I have in common - I really do like Florsheims.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: wadesworld on March 11, 2026, 11:03:51 AM
Quote from: The Sultan on March 11, 2026, 10:51:54 AMWell, I finally found out something Trump and I have in common - I really do like Florsheims.

Keefer has contacted their HR department before!

I think 2 weeks ago a former coworker of mine that I'm still very good friends with texted me and said Donald Trump placed a huge order to be delivered directly to the White House.  Tom Florsheim called him to confirm the order was actually placed.  He genuinely did not know about it.  And I think you can read into why he left no other comment on it.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on March 11, 2026, 11:30:12 AM
The big winner in the war so far: Capt. Bone Spur's puppetmaster, Vlad.

(https://ecp.yusercontent.com/mail?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgraphics.axios.com%2Fhermesv2%2F2026-03-10-1802-prices-of-select%2Ffallbacks%2F2026-03-10-1802-prices-of-select-fallback.png&t=1773245914&ymreqid=3c8d0d78-3338-e941-1cfa-20079b01b300&sig=ZxV0mn4W7hiOz8FaQAG31g--~D)

Russia is emerging as the clearest economic winner from the war with Iran, Axios Markets' Emily Peck writes.

Higher oil prices are good for countries that export oil. You can see it in the data. The price of Russian crude oil has skyrocketed since the war began, surpassing the international oil benchmark this week (charted above) despite heavy Western sanctions.


Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on March 11, 2026, 11:47:26 AM
Grateful the Pentagon is focused on what's important in these challenging times.

https://x.com/kylegriffin1/status/2031758313235386807?s=20
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: cheebs09 on March 11, 2026, 11:51:31 AM
Quote from: Pakuni on March 11, 2026, 11:47:26 AMGrateful the Pentagon is focused on what's important in these challenging times.

https://x.com/kylegriffin1/status/2031758313235386807?s=20

Is there a flattering picture out there?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TallTitan34 on March 11, 2026, 12:03:43 PM
Same guy who put a makeup studio off the press room in the Pentagon? 
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 11, 2026, 12:10:48 PM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on March 11, 2026, 12:03:43 PMSame guy who put a makeup studio off the press room in the Pentagon? 

Did they show a photo of his Christian crusades tattoo?  You'd think an alpha male who prides himself in Christian fundamentalism and white nationalism would be less vain but then again, he's a woman beater and drunk.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on March 11, 2026, 02:03:23 PM
Imagine being the parent/spouse/child of one of the soldiers killed and hearing the president describe this as "a little excursion."

https://x.com/Acyn/status/2031806629390533008?s=20
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on March 11, 2026, 02:18:18 PM
Quote from: cheebs09 on March 11, 2026, 11:51:31 AMIs there a flattering picture out there?

(https://images2.imgbox.com/2b/01/br3dptD7_o.png) (https://imgbox.com/br3dptD7)
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 11, 2026, 09:13:14 PM
Quote from: Skatastrophy on March 11, 2026, 09:41:24 AMhttps://www.vyprvpn.com/resources/internet-privacy-guides/account-privacy/how-to-delete-your-twitter-account

Hint...just add "cancel" after the letter x...

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Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 12, 2026, 07:11:22 AM
$11.1 billion spent aimlessly bombing Iran on the orders of Israel.

Can't afford basic healthcare in this country.  But we can spend $11.1 billion bombing a country because some idiots think this will help accelerate the return of Jesus.

Looking for waste in government spending?  Start with the Department of War, lead by a serial adulterer, drunk and perpetrator of domestic violence.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on March 12, 2026, 07:26:54 AM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 12, 2026, 07:11:22 AM$11.1 billion spent aimlessly bombing Iran on the orders of Israel.

Can't afford basic healthcare in this country.  But we can spend $11.1 billion bombing a country because some idiots think this will help accelerate the return of Jesus.

Looking for waste in government spending?  Start with the Department of War, lead by a serial adulterer, drunk and perpetrator of domestic violence.

That's the Rico we missed!
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: The Sultan on March 12, 2026, 08:20:20 AM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 12, 2026, 07:11:22 AM$11.1 billion spent aimlessly bombing Iran on the orders of Israel.

Can't afford basic healthcare in this country.  But we can spend $11.1 billion bombing a country because some idiots think this will help accelerate the return of Jesus.

Looking for waste in government spending?  Start with the Department of War, lead by a serial adulterer, drunk and perpetrator of domestic violence.


I know I shouldn't be surprised, but what is completely damning about the entire escapade is the completely lack of strategy.

**Instead of "regime change," we likely cemented these guys into power for the next generation or two...at least.

**Anyone with any sense of foresight could have seen that Iran would use this opportunity to create chaos. They're chaos agents. They know that we have a lot more to lose than they do, so mining the straight, sending cheap drones to hit tankers, etc. comes with very little downside risk. What exactly are we going to do about it? Invade? Fire nuclear weapons?

**There is zero reason that Iran is going to negotiate anything related to their nuclear program now. Why would you negotiate with the United States at all? We tear up our agreements and pretend to negotiate new ones only to have us walk away.

**We spent decades hearing how we had to become "energy independent" and investing into our oil extraction industry so we didn't have to deal with this any longer. It was so successful, that we became the world's largest producer! Yet here we are, ass deep in another mideast conflict with an ally that gives us absolutely nothing.

It's just all run by dumb guys who think being a bully is how you run foreign policy. Soft power, like USAid, is "woke" even though it has saved hundred of thousands of lives. Yet China not only is now winning that battle, but is so far ahead of us now it will take generations to catch up.

And bullying only works until someone punches back. And that's what's happening now.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 12, 2026, 08:39:25 AM
Quote from: The Sultan on March 12, 2026, 08:20:20 AMI know I shouldn't be surprised, but what is completely damning about the entire escapade is the completely lack of strategy.

**Instead of "regime change," we likely cemented these guys into power for the next generation or two...at least.

**Anyone with any sense of foresight could have seen that Iran would use this opportunity to create chaos. They're chaos agents. They know that we have a lot more to lose than they do, so mining the straight, sending cheap drones to hit tankers, etc. comes with very little downside risk. What exactly are we going to do about it? Invade? Fire nuclear weapons?

**There is zero reason that Iran is going to negotiate anything related to their nuclear program now. Why would you negotiate with the United States at all? We tear up our agreements and pretend to negotiate new ones only to have us walk away.

**We spent decades hearing how we had to become "energy independent" and investing into our oil extraction industry so we didn't have to deal with this any longer. It was so successful, that we became the world's largest producer! Yet here we are, ass deep in another mideast conflict with an ally that gives us absolutely nothing.

It's just all run by dumb guys who think being a bully is how you run foreign policy. Soft power, like USAid, is "woke" even though it has saved hundred of thousands of lives. Yet China not only is now winning that battle, but is so far ahead of us now it will take generations to catch up.

And bullying only works until someone punches back. And that's what's happening now.

We're never catching up to China again.  The stink of this administration and the movement from which it sprang is far too woven into our fabric now.

Ignorance is a choice and America has chosen it. 
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on March 12, 2026, 10:22:59 AM
Yeah, but at least Capt. Bone Spur his increased his personal wealth by billions of dollars in the last year alone, so there.

Y'all are just jealous that you can't grift like he does. Hell, he even wore official merch during the solemn dignified transfer ceremony. Wonder how many butt-ugly baseball caps he sold off of that grift.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 12, 2026, 12:24:07 PM
3.2 million refugees created according to the UN since the start of the war. 

Probably won't put any stress on the region and its member states.

Probably won't engender any greater hatred for Israel or the United States.

Just the price you pay for oil
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: jesmu84 on March 12, 2026, 04:22:13 PM
https://x.com/i/status/2031359154351116643
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on March 12, 2026, 04:34:40 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 12, 2026, 12:24:07 PM3.2 million refugees created according to the UN since the start of the war. 

Probably won't put any stress on the region and its member states.

Probably won't engender any greater hatred for Israel or the United States.

Just the price you pay for oil

They should just identify as white Afrikaners; then they can come to the US and be given money to start their lives here.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: #UnleashThePortal on March 12, 2026, 04:55:13 PM
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on March 11, 2026, 02:18:18 PM(https://images2.imgbox.com/2b/01/br3dptD7_o.png) (https://imgbox.com/br3dptD7)

Vinegar strokes?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on March 12, 2026, 05:06:30 PM
Ugh.

https://x.com/CENTCOM/status/2032211125882745265?s=20
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on March 12, 2026, 05:10:47 PM
Quote from: cheebs09 on March 11, 2026, 11:51:31 AMIs there a flattering picture out there?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G2RLF-RXUAAFZhZ.jpg)
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: The Sultan on March 12, 2026, 05:32:07 PM
Nm
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on March 12, 2026, 05:46:14 PM
Quote from: jesmu84 on March 12, 2026, 04:22:13 PMhttps://x.com/i/status/2031359154351116643

Bibi's ready to use nukes? Musta read Muggsy's 5-point plan.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on March 12, 2026, 08:04:20 PM
The upside here is that with oil prices high, "we'll" make a lot of money.

Under Biden they gas was $6/gal (it wasn't) and that was terrible, and it was great when Trump brought them down to $1.99/gal (he didn't), and now it's great that they are going up.

Win win win.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: #UnleashThePortal on March 12, 2026, 08:04:50 PM
Quote from: MU82 on March 12, 2026, 05:46:14 PMBibi's ready to use nukes? Musta read Muggsy's 5-point plan.

Ha, Trump lose? He'll sacrifice 50k troops to take over Iran so he can "win"
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: #UnleashThePortal on March 12, 2026, 08:05:38 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on March 12, 2026, 05:06:30 PMUgh.

https://x.com/CENTCOM/status/2032211125882745265?s=20

Not due to enemy OR friendly fire? Midair collision while refueling then eh?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: #UnleashThePortal on March 12, 2026, 08:06:08 PM
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on March 12, 2026, 08:04:20 PMThe upside here is that with oil prices high, "we'll" make a lot of money.

Under Biden they were $6/gal (they weren't) and that was terrible, and it was great when Trump brought them down to $1.99/gal (he didn't), and now it's great that they are going up.

Win win win.

Why doesn't he simply have Iran pay for the oil?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: forgetful on March 12, 2026, 08:12:11 PM
With oil prices skyrocketing, and costs for fertilizer going through the roof, not to mention disruptions to supply chains. I'm sure it will have no effect on inflation.

https://www.wsj.com/finance/commodities-futures/fertilizer-stocks-jump-with-shipments-stuck-at-the-strait-of-hormuz-89cdd8ce
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Shaka Shart on March 12, 2026, 08:41:46 PM
Quote from: #UnleashThePortal on March 12, 2026, 08:05:38 PMNot due to enemy OR friendly fire? Midair collision while refueling then eh?

Vaxxed
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: forgetful on March 12, 2026, 09:33:46 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on March 12, 2026, 05:06:30 PMUgh.

https://x.com/CENTCOM/status/2032211125882745265?s=20

This is quite weird. I've heard reports of either 5 or 6 individuals being on board. The reason that is strange is the standard crew for in-flight refueling missions is 3.

The only times you see 5 on board is usually for medical flight evacuations.

The 5 or 6 makes it even more unusual, was there a 6th on board for medical flight evacuations, and if so, why were 2 KC-135's flying in formation?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Skatastrophy on March 12, 2026, 10:10:31 PM
Quote from: forgetful on March 12, 2026, 09:33:46 PMThis is quite weird. I've heard reports of either 5 or 6 individuals being on board. The reason that is strange is the standard crew for in-flight refueling missions is 3.

The only times you see 5 on board is usually for medical flight evacuations.

The 5 or 6 makes it even more unusual, was there a 6th on board for medical flight evacuations, and if so, why were 2 KC-135's flying in formation?
Based on what these dopes are doing in my city with ICE my guess is it was a film crew for their crapty propaganda/recruiting vids. They fly around in circles over my neighborhood doing nothing, bunch of losers
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 12, 2026, 11:27:12 PM
Truth is, epic fury has no bounds.  But also, a failed energy drink.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on March 13, 2026, 05:11:06 AM
Quote from: Pakuni on March 12, 2026, 05:06:30 PMUgh.

https://x.com/CENTCOM/status/2032211125882745265?s=20

The best people made the plans for this.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 13, 2026, 07:08:49 AM
Tough break for Catholics in the service:

https://www.thelettersfromleo.com/p/pete-hegseths-pastor-wants-to-ban

But that's the price we must pay for mediocre, middle-aged white men to feel comfortable being racist, homophobic, misogynistic and Islamophobic openly
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 13, 2026, 07:31:19 AM
This is a war partially fueled by Christian nationalism and religious fundamentalism. 

American soldiers will die not to protect America or the flag, but oil companies and religious nutjobs who believe in crackpot theories.  Religion continues to be one of the world's deadliest plagues.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/03/13/politics/hegseth-iran-israel-war-american-crusade-analysis
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jay Bee on March 13, 2026, 08:41:52 AM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 12, 2026, 08:39:25 AMWe're never catching up to China again.  The stink of this administration and the movement from which it sprang is far too woven into our fabric now.

Ignorance is a choice and America has chosen it.

^^^ ban dis gf individual
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Hards Alumni on March 13, 2026, 08:57:58 AM
Quote from: Jay Bee on March 13, 2026, 08:41:52 AM^^^ ban dis gf individual


It's not really political, its just facts.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 13, 2026, 09:11:58 AM
Quote from: Hards Alumni on March 13, 2026, 08:57:58 AMIt's not really political, its just facts.

Facts don't care about your feelings.  Unless you're a beta cuck afraid of cities
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on March 13, 2026, 11:11:17 AM
Quote from: Pakuni on March 12, 2026, 05:06:30 PMUgh.

https://x.com/CENTCOM/status/2032211125882745265?s=20

At least four dead, and two still missing.

Which means that at least 11 U.S. soldiers are now dead thanks to Capt. Bone Spur's unnecessary, unpopular, poorly planned and costly war. American blood on his hands ... in addition to all those schoolkids he killed (and then lied about killing).
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on March 13, 2026, 11:33:15 AM
Epstein.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: The Sultan on March 13, 2026, 11:47:06 AM
Quote from: Jockey on March 13, 2026, 11:33:15 AMEpstein.


Nah. This is just organizational incompetence bolstered by how easy Venezuela was mixed with encouragement from Israel.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 13, 2026, 11:50:49 AM
Quote from: The Sultan on March 13, 2026, 11:47:06 AMNah. This is just organizational incompetence bolstered by how easy Venezuela was mixed with encouragement from Israel.

Correct.  These guys are too stupid to run a distraction.  They do stupid stuff everyday across all departments.  It's a historically stupid administration.  The constant stupidity and incompetence accidentally help distract from the fact its leader sexually abused children.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: #UnleashThePortal on March 13, 2026, 12:32:53 PM
Just a reminder that the US killed 175 Iranian children and then sent a 2nd missile to bomb the first responders.

Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 13, 2026, 12:53:05 PM
Quote from: #UnleashThePortal on March 13, 2026, 12:32:53 PMJust a reminder that the US killed 175 Iranian children and then sent a 2nd missile to bomb the first responders.



Jesus will hug Gin Diesel when he returns
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on March 13, 2026, 01:27:46 PM
Quote from: #UnleashThePortal on March 13, 2026, 12:32:53 PMJust a reminder that the US killed 175 Iranian children and then sent a 2nd missile to bomb the first responders.

Yes, because either we were using outdated maps due to the Department of Defense being led by a drunk war criminal Fox news weekend host, or because we no longer care if we kill civilians ("changed targeting rules") because of the Department of Defense being led by a drunk war criminal Fox news weekend host.

https://abc7news.com/post/outdated-intel-led-us-carry-deadly-strike-iranian-elementary-school-ap-sources-say/18705763/

P.S. unnatural carnal knowledge the Senators, particularly veterans like Joni Ernst, who voted to confirm the preening pretty boy
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on March 13, 2026, 01:30:01 PM
There's a word for this, I think it starts with a "t"...

Trump acknowledges Putin might be helping Iran 'a little bit'

"I think he might be helping them a little bit, yeah, I guess," Trump said. "And he probably thinks we're helping Ukraine, right?"

The comments come just as Washington moved to ease sanctions on Russian oil, amid a surge in fuel prices driven by the conflict in the Middle East.

The Trump administration has previously downplayed reports that Russia has been providing intelligence to Iran used to target American forces, drawing scrutiny from U.S. lawmakers.

U.S. Special Envoy Steve Witkoff said on March 10 that Moscow had denied the accusations, suggesting that "we can take them at their word."

https://kyivindependent.com/trump-acknowledges-putin-might-be-helping-iran-a-little-bit/
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: The Sultan on March 13, 2026, 01:34:09 PM
Well, at least it's a good thing that we are held in such regard by our NATO allies right?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: #UnleashThePortal on March 13, 2026, 01:41:29 PM
If the dems were to ever do one thing correctly, it would be to dismantle the 2 party system and pass ranked voting.

To bad their just the 2nd worst party.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on March 13, 2026, 01:49:27 PM
Quote from: #UnleashThePortal on March 13, 2026, 01:41:29 PMIf the dems were to ever do one thing correctly, it would be to dismantle the 2 party system and pass ranked voting.

To bad their just the 2nd worst party.

Or, you know, actually fight for what people want, rather than running out milquetoast dinosaurs like Schumer and going along with the status quo favored by their corporate donors.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on March 13, 2026, 02:27:35 PM
"When are you going to know when it's over?" Kilmeade asked about the ongoing war.

"When I feel it," Trump said. "When I feel it in my bones."

I could snark for paragraphs, but what's the use. This is the man the uneducated, racist, pedo-supporting idiots in this country gave us. And let me give a special shoutout to the bros led by a comparable idiot - Joe Rogan.

As I posted earlier - Epstein. Venezuela was about Epstein. Iran is about Epstein. Cuba will be about Epstein. It is all that matters.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: The Sultan on March 13, 2026, 02:30:19 PM
Quote from: Jockey on March 13, 2026, 02:27:35 PMAs I posted earlier - Epstein. Venezuela was about Epstein. Iran is about Epstein. Cuba will be about Epstein. It is all that matters.


And as I posted earlier, I think you are wrong. This is just about dumb people making dumb decisions.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: WellsstreetWanderer on March 13, 2026, 02:38:22 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 13, 2026, 07:08:49 AMTough break for Catholics in the service:

https://www.thelettersfromleo.com/p/pete-hegseths-pastor-wants-to-ban

But that's the price we must pay for mediocre, middle-aged white men to feel comfortable being racist, homophobic, misogynistic and Islamophobic openly

Translation: people who disagree with me
You do realize that these time worn labels are yawn inducing material
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Shaka Shart on March 13, 2026, 02:51:51 PM
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on March 13, 2026, 02:38:22 PMTranslation: people who disagree with me
You do realize that these time worn labels are yawn inducing material

I'm looking forward to how hard the coming rapture is gonna make me
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on March 13, 2026, 02:59:53 PM
Quote from: The Sultan on March 13, 2026, 02:30:19 PMAnd as I posted earlier, I think you are wrong. This is just about dumb people making dumb decisions.

Or, the decisions are motivated by a greater accumulation of money and power. Just think of how luxurious and profitable Trump Tower and Casino Tehran, and El Presidente Trumpo Golf Resort in Cuba are going to be. There's only one golf course in Cuba; it's going to be a cryptomine for Trump, Inc. Kai can run it after she is done liverstreaming her excursions to the most expensive grocery store in the US (which I've visited. They sell Camel Milk).
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Hards Alumni on March 13, 2026, 03:02:16 PM
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on March 13, 2026, 01:49:27 PMOr, you know, actually fight for what people want, rather than running out milquetoast dinosaurs like Schumer and going along with the status quo favored by their corporate donors.

Janet Mills (78!) as the preferred DNC candidate in Maine tells you everything you need to know about these losers.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on March 13, 2026, 03:11:51 PM
Hegseth this morning: Saying the war is expanding is fake news!

Pentagon this afternoon: We're sending 5,000 Marines to the Middle East.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-reportedly-orders-5-000-194112064.html
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on March 13, 2026, 03:22:32 PM
Quote from: Hards Alumni on March 13, 2026, 03:02:16 PMJanet Mills (78!) as the preferred DNC candidate in Maine tells you everything you need to know about these losers.

her opponent, Graham "I didn't realize that tattoo I had on my chest for 18 years was a Nazi symbol" Platner, the preferred choice of the Progressives, isn't any better.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Shaka Shart on March 13, 2026, 03:26:23 PM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 13, 2026, 03:22:32 PMher opponent, Graham "I didn't realize that tattoo I had on my chest for 18 years was a Nazi symbol" Platner, the preferred choice of the Progressives, isn't any better.

It's f'd up how many people are backing their way into "the alternative is worse". Not only did he get that tattoo but he then kept it and left the service instead of getting rid of it, and then continues to platform raging antisemites.

Really lays clean how one can back into voting for kiddie diddlers so easily I guess
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: #UnleashThePortal on March 13, 2026, 03:36:28 PM
Everything yall are complaining about is fixed by demolishing the monopoly two party system and introducing ranked voting.


When there's only 2 options, it quickly erodes to "well at least he's better then that guy"
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 13, 2026, 04:20:32 PM
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on March 13, 2026, 02:38:22 PMTranslation: people who disagree with me
You do realize that these time worn labels are yawn inducing material

Proof is in the pudding.

Tommy Tuberville speaks for the Republican Party
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on March 13, 2026, 05:32:45 PM
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on March 13, 2026, 01:30:01 PMThere's a word for this, I think it starts with a "t"...

Trump acknowledges Putin might be helping Iran 'a little bit'

"I think he might be helping them a little bit, yeah, I guess," Trump said. "And he probably thinks we're helping Ukraine, right?"

The comments come just as Washington moved to ease sanctions on Russian oil, amid a surge in fuel prices driven by the conflict in the Middle East.

The Trump administration has previously downplayed reports that Russia has been providing intelligence to Iran used to target American forces, drawing scrutiny from U.S. lawmakers.

U.S. Special Envoy Steve Witkoff said on March 10 that Moscow had denied the accusations, suggesting that "we can take them at their word."

https://kyivindependent.com/trump-acknowledges-putin-might-be-helping-iran-a-little-bit/

Putin absolutely owns the American president. It's like the plot of a bad movie.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on March 13, 2026, 07:00:52 PM
Quote from: The Sultan on March 13, 2026, 02:30:19 PMAnd as I posted earlier, I think you are wrong. This is just about dumb people making dumb decisions.

And I think you just made my point. He is too dumb to to make a geopolitical decision. It is way simpler. Epstein.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: #UnleashThePortal on March 13, 2026, 07:02:52 PM
2500 more marines are going to the middle east. For a war that was "over" days ago.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on March 13, 2026, 08:02:58 PM
Quote from: #UnleashThePortal on March 13, 2026, 07:02:52 PM2500 more marines are going to the middle east. For a war that was "over" days ago.

It was only "pretty much" over.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 14, 2026, 07:25:04 AM
Quote from: #UnleashThePortal on March 13, 2026, 07:02:52 PM2500 more marines are going to the middle east. For a war that was "over" days ago.

The administration is run by idiots which represents beautifully.  The administration was elected by the American people because the American people are a very stupid people now.

The damage we've done to ourselves since 2016 is historically incredible.  Just self-destruction and just because we elected a black man president twice.  Those results have lead to the disaster unfolding in Washington today.  Anyone that tells you we're "winning" is an idiot.  Anyone defending our choices, is an idiot and cult member with little to no understanding of history, geopolitics and reality.  They're grievance merchants wrapped in a cocoon of purposeful ignorance.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: The Sultan on March 14, 2026, 07:36:27 AM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 14, 2026, 07:25:04 AMThe administration is run by idiots which represents beautifully.  The administration was elected by the American people because the American people are a very stupid people now.

The damage we've done to ourselves since 2016 is historically incredible.  Just self-destruction and just because we elected a black man president twice.  Those results have lead to the disaster unfolding in Washington today.  Anyone that tells you we're "winning" is an idiot.  Anyone defending our choices, is an idiot and cult member with little to no understanding of history, geopolitics and reality.  They're grievance merchants wrapped in a cocoon of purposeful ignorance.


And self-interest. Their first priority will always been to themselves over country. The only reason they love the United States is because it enriches them and doesn't punish them for misdeeds.

We literally had a president who caused a riot because he lost an election. They stormed the capitol, committed violence against a law enforcement agency, and we elected him again. And he pardoned the rioters. And collectively we shrug our shoulders.

We deserve everything we are getting. We likely deserve even more than that. My grandchildren will look back and wonder how we allowed this to happen to the wealthiest and strongest country in human history.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: The Sultan on March 14, 2026, 07:47:56 AM
"It took U.S. years to lose a war in Vietnam. Trump lost one in days."

https://www.inquirer.com/opinion/iran-war-us-losing-trump-20260312.html
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on March 14, 2026, 08:31:13 AM
Can't wait for JD to "Well, actually" the Pope on this one.


VATICAN CITY, March 13 (Reuters) - Pope Leo suggested on Friday that Christian political leaders who start wars should go to confession and assess whether they are following the teachings ‌of Jesus, without naming any specific leaders or conflicts.

"Do those Christians who bear grave responsibility in armed conflicts have the humility and courage to make a serious examination of conscience and to go to confession?" the pope asked in a speech ⁠to priests.


https://www.reuters.com/world/pope-leo-says-christians-who-start-wars-should-go-confession-2026-03-13/
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 14, 2026, 08:32:24 AM
Quote from: Pakuni on March 14, 2026, 08:31:13 AMCan't wait for JD to "Well, actually" the Pope on this one.


VATICAN CITY, March 13 (Reuters) - Pope Leo suggested on Friday that Christian political leaders who start wars should go to confession and assess whether they are following the teachings ‌of Jesus, without naming any specific leaders or conflicts.

"Do those Christians who bear grave responsibility in armed conflicts have the humility and courage to make a serious examination of conscience and to go to confession?" the pope asked in a speech ⁠to priests.


https://www.reuters.com/world/pope-leo-says-christians-who-start-wars-should-go-confession-2026-03-13/

The joke is on the pope.  Jesus 2 is coming soon
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: jesmu84 on March 14, 2026, 09:05:46 AM
Quote from: The Sultan on March 14, 2026, 07:36:27 AMAnd self-interest. Their first priority will always been to themselves over country. The only reason they love the United States is because it enriches them and doesn't punish them for misdeeds.

We literally had a president who caused a riot because he lost an election. They stormed the capitol, committed violence against a law enforcement agency, and we elected him again. And he pardoned the rioters. And collectively we shrug our shoulders.

We deserve everything we are getting. We likely deserve even more than that. My grandchildren will look back and wonder how we allowed this to happen to the wealthiest and strongest country in human history.

Well, when was the last time we had accountability for the wealthy/powerful?

Bush torture. Iraq. Afghanistan. Trump 1/Jan 6. 2008 financial fraud.

Shoot. Go back to the civil war.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: jesmu84 on March 14, 2026, 09:16:28 AM
Huckabee and Graham should be charged with treason
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 14, 2026, 09:52:51 AM
Woof guys, while I understand we can't completely discuss an illegal war without some political talk, I didn't intend this an open thread on politics. 

Please tone it down.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jay Bee on March 14, 2026, 10:14:27 AM
Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 14, 2026, 09:52:51 AMWoof guys, while I understand we can't completely discuss an illegal war without some political talk, I didn't intend this an open thread on politics. 

Please tone it down.

Way to drop the hammer, smh

I often think it's weird when people cry about 'oh, it cost more at the pump!'.. and they are literally just talking about filling up their own car. Nickel and dime sh1t. So odd; if someone DOGE'd their a$$, they could save a ton of money all over the place.

ppl r dum.

PS - stay safe this weekend, lots of snowflakes coming!! I've got pickleball noon-3pm then maybe will hit the bar for a guiness before hunkering down -- snow in the Twin Cities likely starting around 6pm tonight.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 14, 2026, 10:42:53 AM
Quote from: Jay Bee on March 14, 2026, 10:14:27 AMWay to drop the hammer, smh

I often think it's weird when people cry about 'oh, it cost more at the pump!'.. and they are literally just talking about filling up their own car. Nickel and dime sh1t. So odd; if someone DOGE'd their a$$, they could save a ton of money all over the place.

ppl r dum.

PS - stay safe this weekend, lots of snowflakes coming!! I've got pickleball noon-3pm then maybe will hit the bar for a guiness before hunkering down -- snow in the Twin Cities likely starting around 6pm tonight.

Well, akshully, higher prices don't matter was a natural endpoint.  Of course, that ignores higher fuel costs for transportation which causes higher prices on everyday goods.  Causes higher aviation costs which makes travel more expensive.  Less travel hurts local economies but it's just a few pennies at the pump.  Who cares?

Wouldn't want anyone to doge my finances.  Mostly because I wouldn't want my personal information stolen or have unqualified buffoons giving me advice.

Anyway, Houthi's are joining Iran's side.  Could disrupt traffic through the Suez which will hurt international trade and cause shortages and price increases but who cares?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on March 14, 2026, 11:01:27 AM
Quote from: Jay Bee on March 14, 2026, 10:14:27 AMSo odd; if someone DOGE'd their a$$, they could save a ton of money all over the place.

You mean cost them twice as much as they saved while having their data stolen?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on March 14, 2026, 11:05:54 AM
Quote from: The Sultan on March 14, 2026, 07:36:27 AMWe literally had a president who caused a riot because he lost an election. They stormed the capitol, committed violence against a law enforcement agency, and we elected him again. And he pardoned the rioters. And collectively we shrug our shoulders.

They were tourists and curious citizens
               --roqqet and wellsstreet
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on March 14, 2026, 11:32:24 AM
Quote from: Jay Bee on March 14, 2026, 10:14:27 AMWay to drop the hammer, smh

I often think it's weird when people cry about 'oh, it cost more at the pump!'.. and they are literally just talking about filling up their own car. Nickel and dime sh1t. So odd; if someone DOGE'd their a$$, they could save a ton of money all over the place.

ppl r dum.

PS - stay safe this weekend, lots of snowflakes coming!! I've got pickleball noon-3pm then maybe will hit the bar for a guiness before hunkering down -- snow in the Twin Cities likely starting around 6pm tonight.

Hey now, seeing gas prices increased by 10 cents yesterday from where they were on Thursday during my drives to the gym makes me feel patriotic. I even sing "God Bless America" while filling up. As Dear Leader said, "if they go up, they go up." Obviously, this is something Dear Leader, with his extensive military (school) background and Secretary of War Kegstand knew was going to happen.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/trump-s-humiliating-war-miscalculation-exposed/ar-AA1YCQCi

Trump, 79, told his administration that he thought Iran would capitulate to the U.S. before it closed the Strait, adding that even if the Strait was threatened, the U.S. military could handle it.

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSAtUetlZQBqWBkNATRwSWzoONqr19wP-ODeQ&s)
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: jesmu84 on March 14, 2026, 11:45:33 AM
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cq8gj9n12g8o
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on March 14, 2026, 11:50:15 AM
But I thought we didn't need European allies?

https://x.com/BBCBreaking/status/2032832319552127171?s=20
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: jesmu84 on March 14, 2026, 12:08:18 PM
Being reported that India, France and Italy are negotiating directly with Iran to allow passage of their vessels through the Strait.

Interesting that those countries chose not to go through the US
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: #UnleashThePortal on March 14, 2026, 01:30:33 PM
Quote from: jesmu84 on March 14, 2026, 12:08:18 PMBeing reported that India, France and Italy are negotiating directly with Iran to allow passage of their vessels through the Strait.

Interesting that those countries chose not to go through the US

Why could I see trump attempting to block these ships since they went to talk to Iran lol?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: forgetful on March 14, 2026, 02:20:59 PM
Quote from: jesmu84 on March 14, 2026, 12:08:18 PMBeing reported that India, France and Italy are negotiating directly with Iran to allow passage of their vessels through the Strait.

Interesting that those countries chose not to go through the US

This war so far has made the US look like the bad guy, has strengthened China and Russia, contributed to the rapid and massive decline of support for Israel in the US and world-wide, and in some ways actually made Iran stronger, while making the entire rest of the Middle East suffer for having allowed US bases on their soil.

And now we are all but begging other countries to come help out, while repeatedly asking Iran for a ceasefire through back-channels and them saying no. Also, many anti-regime Iranians now think that the US and Israel are worse than the current Iranian regime.

Not so much winning going on right now.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 14, 2026, 02:34:13 PM
Quote from: jesmu84 on March 14, 2026, 12:08:18 PMBeing reported that India, France and Italy are negotiating directly with Iran to allow passage of their vessels through the Strait.

Interesting that those countries chose not to go through the US

Legitimizing the new Iranian leadership?  Time for tariffs.  Another price increase for the American citizen?  Big deal, who cares?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on March 14, 2026, 04:09:25 PM
Oh, just the chair of the FCC threatening broadcasters who don't turn into propagandists for the administration.
I imagine this will go about as well for him as the Kimmel thing.

https://x.com/BrendanCarrFCC/status/2032855414233047172?s=20
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on March 14, 2026, 04:34:01 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on March 14, 2026, 04:09:25 PMOh, just the chair of the FCC threatening broadcasters who don't turn into propagandists for the administration.
I imagine this will go about as well for him as the Kimmel thing.

https://x.com/BrendanCarrFCC/status/2032855414233047172?s=20

And there are still some people that haven't realized, or won't acknowledge, that we have a fascist government
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on March 14, 2026, 06:30:08 PM
Quote from: forgetful on March 14, 2026, 02:20:59 PMThis war so far has made the US look like the bad guy, has strengthened China and Russia, contributed to the rapid and massive decline of support for Israel in the US and world-wide, and in some ways actually made Iran stronger, while making the entire rest of the Middle East suffer for having allowed US bases on their soil.

And now we are all but begging other countries to come help out, while repeatedly asking Iran for a ceasefire through back-channels and them saying no. Also, many anti-regime Iranians now think that the US and Israel are worse than the current Iranian regime.

Not so much winning going on right now.

Epic Epstein Distraction also has whipped up violence and hate-filled rhetoric linked to antisemitism, Islamophobia and terrorism here in America.

America's "leaders" are not the best at realizing what the consequences of their actions might be.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: forgetful on March 14, 2026, 09:40:25 PM
Quote from: Jay Bee on March 14, 2026, 10:14:27 AMWay to drop the hammer, smh

I often think it's weird when people cry about 'oh, it cost more at the pump!'.. and they are literally just talking about filling up their own car. Nickel and dime sh1t. So odd; if someone DOGE'd their a$$, they could save a ton of money all over the place.

ppl r dum.

I may be misunderstanding this post, but it seems to completely miss the point. Energy prices going up substantially has an immense impact on the cost of everything, not just filling up their car. Most people understand this, with gas prices being a sign of larger energy related crises.

But on top of that though, this is impacting supply chains, which the last time that we had a simultaneous supply chain and energy crisis, inflation hit 9%.

This is why people are concerned.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: mu_hilltopper on March 14, 2026, 10:10:36 PM
This is worth a listen. 

Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jay Bee on March 14, 2026, 11:16:39 PM
Quote from: forgetful on March 14, 2026, 09:40:25 PMI may be misunderstanding this post, but it seems to completely miss the point. Energy prices going up substantially has an immense impact on the cost of everything, not just filling up their car. Most people understand this, with gas prices being a sign of larger energy related crises.

But on top of that though, this is impacting supply chains, which the last time that we had a simultaneous supply chain and energy crisis, inflation hit 9%.

This is why people are concerned.

yes, you misunderstood the post
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: NCMUFan on March 15, 2026, 07:50:02 AM
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on March 14, 2026, 10:10:36 PMThis is worth a listen. 

TY for posting.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 15, 2026, 08:41:43 AM
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on March 14, 2026, 10:10:36 PMThis is worth a listen. 


The comment section on this is a great encapsulation of the cult and the stupidity of the average American
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: forgetful on March 15, 2026, 11:50:05 AM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 15, 2026, 08:41:43 AMThe comment section on this is a great encapsulation of the cult and the stupidity of the average American

The fact that so many of them thought he was a war hawk suggests either they weren't smart enough to understand the video, or didn't even try to.

The focus on the decline in American power at the end was so important, and I don't think a lot of people understand the cumulative effects of everything being done right now, and it is not good for us.

At what point does a China go to the gulf nations (sans Israel) and say that they don't care about wars or want wars. They want peace and prosperity and that if they kick the US out of the bases, China will provide regional security guarantees with the only goal towards mutual development and peace.

I think there are multiple reasons China is largely staying out of this and a big one is they think they can have enhanced political control over the entire Middle East by the end of this.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 15, 2026, 12:17:51 PM
Quote from: forgetful on March 15, 2026, 11:50:05 AMThe fact that so many of them thought he was a war hawk suggests either they weren't smart enough to understand the video, or didn't even try to.

The focus on the decline in American power at the end was so important, and I don't think a lot of people understand the cumulative effects of everything being done right now, and it is not good for us.

At what point does a China go to the gulf nations (sans Israel) and say that they don't care about wars or want wars. They want peace and prosperity and that if they kick the US out of the bases, China will provide regional security guarantees with the only goal towards mutual development and peace.

I think there are multiple reasons China is largely staying out of this and a big one is they think they can have enhanced political control over the entire Middle East by the end of this.

I personally liked the comments suggesting this war was part of the administration's attack on the global elite.  We could literally cut a check for a billions of dollars to the world's richest people and we'd have redneck mouth breathers believing it's part of a plan to take down the cabal that keeps them poor.

In 14 months, we've done as much as possible to strengthen China's place in the world.  China doesn't have to rattle any sabers.  They just have to let our country continue to sabotage itself.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on March 15, 2026, 12:18:30 PM
They Were Promised Regime Change. Now Many Iranians Feel Betrayed.

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/they-were-promised-regime-change-now-many-iranians-feel-betrayed-96302a4d?

At the start of the war on Iran, Israel and the U.S. said they were paving the way for Iranians to rise up and topple their government. Many Iranians cheered on the offensive as a last resort to overthrow rulers who killed thousands of protesters in January.

Now, they are grappling with the possibility that the war will end with them living under the same authoritarian rule and crushing international sanctions, but in devastated cities with an aggrieved government that has vowed to take an even harder line against dissent.

One Tehran-based civil-society activist and former political prisoner said Iranians were truly hopeful two weeks ago as the war began. Now, the person said, they feel betrayed. An English-language teacher living in Tehran who is opposed to the government but also the war was more blunt. "We were f—ed over," the teacher said, saying they were turned into an excuse to launch a devastating war. "It's like we have gone back a hundred years in time."

The disappointment was triggered by a U-turn by Israeli and U.S. officials, who now are suggesting the time isn't ripe for regime change.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Shaka Shart on March 15, 2026, 01:15:14 PM
Quote from: MU82 on March 15, 2026, 12:18:30 PMThey Were Promised Regime Change. Now Many Iranians Feel Betrayed.

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/they-were-promised-regime-change-now-many-iranians-feel-betrayed-96302a4d?

At the start of the war on Iran, Israel and the U.S. said they were paving the way for Iranians to rise up and topple their government. Many Iranians cheered on the offensive as a last resort to overthrow rulers who killed thousands of protesters in January.

Now, they are grappling with the possibility that the war will end with them living under the same authoritarian rule and crushing international sanctions, but in devastated cities with an aggrieved government that has vowed to take an even harder line against dissent.

One Tehran-based civil-society activist and former political prisoner said Iranians were truly hopeful two weeks ago as the war began. Now, the person said, they feel betrayed. An English-language teacher living in Tehran who is opposed to the government but also the war was more blunt. "We were f—ed over," the teacher said, saying they were turned into an excuse to launch a devastating war. "It's like we have gone back a hundred years in time."

The disappointment was triggered by a U-turn by Israeli and U.S. officials, who now are suggesting the time isn't ripe for regime change.


They should wait until all 5 points of the 5 point plan are complete before making assumptions (because they'll likely be dead and can't pass judgement on our idiocy anymore)
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MUBurrow on March 15, 2026, 02:15:22 PM
Quote from: MU82 on March 15, 2026, 12:18:30 PM
Now, they are grappling with the possibility that the war will end with them living under the same authoritarian rule and crushing international sanctions, but in devastated cities with an aggrieved government that has vowed to take an even harder line against dissent.


I feel like this is another "two things can be true" moment -

One is that the US-Israel alliance was incredibly dumb to think they would achieve regime change with bombing alone.

The other is that if dissident Iranians couldn't supplant the regime after a decapitation operation, it suggests that internal support is not sufficient to do so even with greater international involvement.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: #UnleashThePortal on March 15, 2026, 02:28:05 PM
https://united24media.com/latest-news/iran-officially-confirms-military-support-from-russia-and-china-in-war-against-the-us-16882

So Trump lifts sanctions on Russian oil, Russia uses the money to fuel the war in Ukraine and Iran.

Is this winning?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 15, 2026, 02:51:21 PM
Quote from: #UnleashThePortal on March 15, 2026, 02:28:05 PMhttps://united24media.com/latest-news/iran-officially-confirms-military-support-from-russia-and-china-in-war-against-the-us-16882

So Trump lifts sanctions on Russian oil, Russia uses the money to fuel the war in Ukraine and Iran.

Is this winning?

Russia was our ally in WWII.  People forget that.  Ukraine wasn't
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on March 15, 2026, 02:53:37 PM
Quote from: MUBurrow on March 15, 2026, 02:15:22 PMI feel like this is another "two things can be true" moment -

One is that the US-Israel alliance was incredibly dumb to think they would achieve regime change with bombing alone.

The other is that if dissident Iranians couldn't supplant the regime after a decapitation operation, it suggests that internal support is not sufficient to do so even with greater international involvement.

Another thought here, and it's something that's plagued Israel for decades. They think they're fighting organizations - whether it be Hezbollah, Hamas or the IRGC - and believe that by "decapitating them," i.e. wiping out the leadership, the whole organization will collapse.
But they're really fighting ideologies and movements, and you don't kill an ideology or movement by killing some of its adherents. This is just as true of the ayatollahs and the Taliban as it is the Civil Rights Movement in the United States (obviously these two are on the opposite ends of the good-evil spectrum, lest someone accuse me of likening the two).

The Iranian regime will fall internally - hopefully more like the Soviet Union than the Assad regime - not because a foreign power drops a bunch of bombs on them or some of its leaders got unalived.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: #UnleashThePortal on March 15, 2026, 03:06:49 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 15, 2026, 02:51:21 PMRussia was our ally in WWII.  People forget that.  Ukraine wasn't
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 15, 2026, 02:51:21 PMRussia was our ally in WWII.  People forget that.  Ukraine wasn't

Russia was fighting with the solviets to much to fight off the attacking Ukrainians. Poor Russia!
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: #UnleashThePortal on March 15, 2026, 03:08:03 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on March 15, 2026, 02:53:37 PMAnother thought here, and it's something that's plagued Israel for decades. They think they're fighting organizations - whether it be Hezbollah, Hamas or the IRGC - and believe that by "decapitating them," i.e. wiping out the leadership, the whole organization will collapse.
But they're really fighting ideologies and movements, and you don't kill an ideology or movement by killing some of its adherents. This is just as true of the ayatollahs and the Taliban as it is the Civil Rights Movement in the United States (obviously these two are on the opposite ends of the good-evil spectrum, lest someone accuse me of likening the two).

The Iranian regime will fall internally - hopefully more like the Soviet Union than the Assad regime - not because a foreign power drops a bunch of bombs on them or some of its leaders got unalived.

Maga actually thought killing the leader of Iran worked like it does in chess.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: forgetful on March 15, 2026, 03:17:11 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on March 15, 2026, 02:53:37 PMAnother thought here, and it's something that's plagued Israel for decades. They think they're fighting organizations - whether it be Hezbollah, Hamas or the IRGC - and believe that by "decapitating them," i.e. wiping out the leadership, the whole organization will collapse.
But they're really fighting ideologies and movements, and you don't kill an ideology or movement by killing some of its adherents. This is just as true of the ayatollahs and the Taliban as it is the Civil Rights Movement in the United States (obviously these two are on the opposite ends of the good-evil spectrum, lest someone accuse me of likening the two).

The Iranian regime will fall internally - hopefully more like the Soviet Union than the Assad regime - not because a foreign power drops a bunch of bombs on them or some of its leaders got unalived.

Israel knows they are not fighting organizations and always has known, they admitted to following the Dahiya doctrine, which is essentially collective punishment of entire peoples through large scale destruction of civilian infrastructure until the people essentially just give up.

You are right though, in that historically they seem to have not understood that it is also an ideology, and the collective punishment has made them the opposition to that ideology. I think that has led the hard-liners, which Netanyahu is increasingly aligned with move on from collective punishment to annihilation and forced removal.

The result is that most of the world views Israel negatively.

This was my fear from the beginning of the response to the October terrorist attacks, that they would take it so far, that it would inspire more hatred of the Israeli people due to the disproportionate response of their government. It is sad, because they are such a great people. They deserve better than their government is giving them.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 15, 2026, 03:24:25 PM
Quote from: #UnleashThePortal on March 15, 2026, 03:08:03 PMMaga actually thought killing the leader of Iran worked like it does in chess.

Brother, they don't know how to play chess
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: #UnleashThePortal on March 15, 2026, 03:25:03 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 15, 2026, 03:24:25 PMBrother, they don't know how to play chess

Ive been told Trump is playing 6D chess.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 15, 2026, 03:40:19 PM
Quote from: #UnleashThePortal on March 15, 2026, 03:25:03 PMIve been told Trump is playing 6D chess.

He'd eat the chess pieces
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on March 15, 2026, 03:46:17 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 15, 2026, 02:51:21 PMRussia was our ally in WWII.  People forget that.  Ukraine wasn't

Russia stands for traditional Christian values.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 15, 2026, 04:08:07 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on March 15, 2026, 03:46:17 PMRussia stands for traditional Christian values.

It's hard to argue with how Russia is run.  Dynamic leadership who takes care of his oligarch friends, runs the media, crushes dissent with an iron fist, doesn't tolerate ethnic minorities and has successfully managed military excursions.

We could learn a lot from them.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jay Bee on March 15, 2026, 06:00:56 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 15, 2026, 03:40:19 PMHe'd eat the chess pieces

You'd eat the 6D, hey?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 15, 2026, 06:19:46 PM
Quote from: Jay Bee on March 15, 2026, 06:00:56 PMYou'd eat the 6D, hey?

I'm still flattered but not interested.  Have you considered a pickle partner?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TallTitan34 on March 15, 2026, 09:03:51 PM
https://x.com/acyn/status/2033350867739463848?s=46
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 16, 2026, 06:34:36 AM
European Union and NATO tell America no to helping open the Strait of Hormuz.

Surprised they would take that tact considering the respect we've shown them the last 14 months.  Anyone have any ideas why they'd decide not to help? 

Between that and Russia help Iran, I'm beginning to think our place in the world is in a bad place.  Eh, who cares?  It's just a few pennies here or there.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on March 16, 2026, 08:26:07 AM
Quote from: #UnleashThePortal on March 15, 2026, 02:28:05 PMhttps://united24media.com/latest-news/iran-officially-confirms-military-support-from-russia-and-china-in-war-against-the-us-16882

So Trump lifts sanctions on Russian oil, Russia uses the money to fuel the war in Ukraine and Iran.

Is this winning?

Stolen from Bluesky:

"It's amazingly hard to tell the difference between deliberate sabotage and utter stupidity, isn't it?"
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: The Sultan on March 16, 2026, 08:32:02 AM
This thread:

https://bsky.app/profile/newseye.bsky.social/post/3mh4zn2c4ns2h

An abolute disasterclass by the administration on every level.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: #UnleashThePortal on March 16, 2026, 08:41:20 AM
Where are we at on the timeliness? I thought the war was over, why is trump requesting assistance from other countries now?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on March 16, 2026, 08:45:03 AM
This could be a parody page (you never can tell on Twitter these days) but this is 100% believable:

https://x.com/bourscheid/status/2033501078222680524
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on March 16, 2026, 09:30:34 AM
it sounds about right.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 16, 2026, 09:34:44 AM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 16, 2026, 08:45:03 AMThis could be a parody page (you never can tell on Twitter these days) but this is 100% believable:

https://x.com/bourscheid/status/2033501078222680524

I will say parody but the fact it is possible says a lot.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on March 16, 2026, 09:51:25 AM
Quote from: The Sultan on March 16, 2026, 08:32:02 AMThis thread:

https://bsky.app/profile/newseye.bsky.social/post/3mh4zn2c4ns2h

An abolute disasterclass by the administration on every level.

I don't get it...why isn't he asking his besties, Russia, North Korea, and Hungary for help?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 16, 2026, 09:55:26 AM
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on March 16, 2026, 09:51:25 AMI don't get it...why isn't he asking his besties, Russia, North Korea, and Hungary for help?

Where's the Board of Peace when you need it?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on March 16, 2026, 11:00:40 AM
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on March 16, 2026, 09:51:25 AMI don't get it...why isn't he asking his besties, Russia, North Korea, and Hungary for help?


I was reading over the weekend that Orban may finally be gone in April.  The country hates him so much that even his system rigging doesn't look it will be able to save him.  Everybody from Centrists, Socialists/Communists, etc plan to back only one candidate to oust him in parliamentary elections.  We'll see.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 16, 2026, 11:14:50 AM
Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on March 16, 2026, 11:00:40 AMI was reading over the weekend that Orban may finally be gone in April.  The country hates him so much that even his system rigging doesn't look it will be able to save him.  Everybody from Centrists, Socialists/Communists, etc plan to back only one candidate to oust him in parliamentary elections.  We'll see.

He's an original Board of Peace member!  Very disappointed at this news.  Next thing you know, all Board of Peace members can be voted out of office.  What has this world come to?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on March 16, 2026, 11:16:59 AM
Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on March 16, 2026, 11:00:40 AMI was reading over the weekend that Orban may finally be gone in April.  The country hates him so much that even his system rigging doesn't look it will be able to save him.  Everybody from Centrists, Socialists/Communists, etc plan to back only one candidate to oust him in parliamentary elections.  We'll see.

He may be voted out but I'd put money down that he's already planning his version of January 6.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on March 16, 2026, 12:49:23 PM
Quote from: The Sultan on March 16, 2026, 08:32:02 AMThis thread:

https://bsky.app/profile/newseye.bsky.social/post/3mh4zn2c4ns2h

An abolute disasterclass by the administration on every level.

What good would it do for other countries to help if the greatest, and most expensive military ever, by far, is incapable of doing it?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 16, 2026, 01:05:04 PM
Quote from: Jockey on March 16, 2026, 12:49:23 PMWhat good would it do for other countries to help if the greatest, and most expensive military ever, by far, is incapable of doing it?

I'm surprised he's asking.  He's personally ended so many wars, I'd figure that experience would end this one quickly.

Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 16, 2026, 01:38:42 PM
https://bsky.app/profile/thebulwark.com/post/3mh73gpyfno2z

No notes.  Incredible. 
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TallTitan34 on March 16, 2026, 01:46:23 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 16, 2026, 01:38:42 PMhttps://bsky.app/profile/thebulwark.com/post/3mh73gpyfno2z

No notes.  Incredible. 

(https://media0.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTZjMDliOTUyaHdodGRjaHg2cHBuaGFrMW5tOGxtc2NreWh3eHF3MDhmcjl5cWhuMiZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/7Eipor01ypMm3LeG4v/giphy-downsized.gif)
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on March 16, 2026, 02:16:18 PM
Pope Leo is 🔥🔥🔥

Pope Leo XIV called out depictions of war that transform it "into a video game," days after a series of White House social media posts spliced footage of real bomb strikes with clips from popular gaming titles.
Speaking March 16 to the staff of the Italian state television program, TG2, the pope said it is up to journalists "to show the sufferings that war always brings to the people; to show the face of war and to relate it through the eyes of the victims, so as not to transform it into a video game."
"Always, but especially in the dramatic circumstances of war, such as those we are currently experiencing, the media must guard against the risk of becoming propaganda," Leo said. "And the task of journalists, in verifying the news so as not to become a mouthpiece for those in power, becomes even more urgent and delicate — I would say essential."


https://www.ncronline.org/vatican/pope-leo-condemns-depicting-war-video-game
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 16, 2026, 02:22:58 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on March 16, 2026, 02:16:18 PMPope Leo is 🔥🔥🔥

Pope Leo XIV called out depictions of war that transform it "into a video game," days after a series of White House social media posts spliced footage of real bomb strikes with clips from popular gaming titles.
Speaking March 16 to the staff of the Italian state television program, TG2, the pope said it is up to journalists "to show the sufferings that war always brings to the people; to show the face of war and to relate it through the eyes of the victims, so as not to transform it into a video game."
"Always, but especially in the dramatic circumstances of war, such as those we are currently experiencing, the media must guard against the risk of becoming propaganda," Leo said. "And the task of journalists, in verifying the news so as not to become a mouthpiece for those in power, becomes even more urgent and delicate — I would say essential."


https://www.ncronline.org/vatican/pope-leo-condemns-depicting-war-video-game

This pope probably doesn't have an autographed Bible
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 16, 2026, 03:16:52 PM
Ah, ha!  Checkmate, Iran

https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3mh6uuijene2y
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 16, 2026, 03:31:04 PM
Even better plans being put in place:

https://bsky.app/profile/stefanstern.bsky.social/post/3mh7bnrjcks2u

Finally ending the war Obama started 47 years ago and creating a Hormuz Peace Board. 

Never been more proud to be American than I am today.

🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on March 16, 2026, 03:35:56 PM
The fuzzed up text...I'm going to say that one isn't real
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: The Sultan on March 16, 2026, 03:40:23 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 16, 2026, 03:31:04 PMEven better plans being put in place:

https://bsky.app/profile/stefanstern.bsky.social/post/3mh7bnrjcks2u

Finally ending the war Obama started 47 years ago and creating a Hormuz Peace Board. 

Never been more proud to be American than I am today.

🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷


Hey, the creation of the Hormuz Peace Board was one of Muggsy's five points!
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TallTitan34 on March 16, 2026, 03:42:51 PM
https://x.com/atrupar/status/2033636307692322976?s=46
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 16, 2026, 03:48:17 PM
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on March 16, 2026, 03:35:56 PMThe fuzzed up text...I'm going to say that one isn't real

You are correct.  Have to be more vigilant because anything is possible with such strong minds
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on March 16, 2026, 10:03:22 PM
I watched a few episodes of Rise of the Nazis on PBS. Amazing how many similarities there were between Adolph Hitler and the man that Vance once called "America's Hitler."

For one thing, Adolph surrounded himself with people who constantly told him how brilliant and perfect he was.

Also, no matter what Adolph said or did, and no matter how many lies Adolph told, his propagandists and sycophants made sure the public knew their leader was all-knowing and moral and truthful.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on March 17, 2026, 08:19:13 AM
Pelosi was right, all roads lead to Russia

Trump's DOJ Is Helping a Convicted FBI Informant Tied to Russian Intelligence
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2026/03/donald-trump-doj-justice-alexander-smirnov-russia-ukraine-burisma-fbi/

Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 17, 2026, 09:09:40 AM
https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3mhavx3jnlg2s

It's just a few pennies to the American citizen but think how much richer the oil companies will be.

They.  Don't.  Care.  About.  You.

But you get to use slurs again
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: jesmu84 on March 17, 2026, 09:54:57 AM
https://x.com/i/status/2033897242986209689
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on March 17, 2026, 09:58:23 AM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 17, 2026, 09:09:40 AMhttps://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3mhavx3jnlg2s

It's just a few pennies to the American citizen but think how much richer the oil companies will be.


Between my drives to my studio on Friday and Monday, a gallon of gas went up 40 cents. God Bless America!
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: The Sultan on March 17, 2026, 10:09:20 AM
Quote from: jesmu84 on March 17, 2026, 09:54:57 AMhttps://x.com/i/status/2033897242986209689


Yeah let's not turn this doofus into some sort of sympathetic figure. He's a white nationalist nutso.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on March 17, 2026, 10:20:22 AM
Admiral's Comments Undercut Pentagon's Cluster Munition Policy

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/17/us/politics/cluster-munitions-iran.html?

In a video posted on social media on Monday, Adm. Brad Cooper, the leader of U.S. Central Command, condemned a recent Iranian cluster munition attack on Israel.

Calling them "an inherently indiscriminate type of munition," Admiral Cooper said the "Iranian regime" had launched "a reckless attack against civilian neighborhoods in Tel Aviv." A video showed dots of light streaking through the night sky from an incoming missile.

"We join countries across the region in condemning this aggression," he added.

The first Trump administration, however, defended the use of cluster munitions in a policy that remains in effect today.

Cluster munitions are a class of military ordnance that breaks apart in midair and scatters smaller explosive or incendiary weapons, often called bomblets, over a large area. About 20 percent of those bomblets fail to explode on impact but can still explode if discovered even decades later.

In November 2017, Patrick M. Shanahan, who was serving as the deputy secretary of defense at the time, signed a memo calling cluster munitions "legitimate weapons with clear military utility."

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His memo reversed an earlier Pentagon decision to ban the use of its existing arsenal of cluster weapons by 2019 because of the harm they pose to civilians.


I'll let others make jokes about the entire operation being a cluster ...
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Scoop Snoop on March 17, 2026, 10:36:30 AM
Quote from: The Sultan on March 17, 2026, 10:09:20 AMYeah let's not turn this doofus into some sort of sympathetic figure. He's a white nationalist nutso.

Yeah, but.... he's a conscientious one.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on March 17, 2026, 10:38:02 AM
Quote from: jesmu84 on March 17, 2026, 09:54:57 AMhttps://x.com/i/status/2033897242986209689

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQpfm6myIWXjPFo07pXd9yMCu6iD7-THeVbZ5tLgzvZHQ&s=10)
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on March 17, 2026, 11:09:33 AM
Quote from: The Sultan on March 17, 2026, 10:09:20 AMYeah let's not turn this doofus into some sort of sympathetic figure. He's a white nationalist nutso.

Yup yup. He falls into the same (White) America First group as Greene and Tucker.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on March 17, 2026, 11:19:59 AM
https://x.com/i/status/2033907980085674129

How soon before people start saying "That was no meteor!"
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 17, 2026, 12:00:23 PM
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on March 17, 2026, 11:09:33 AMYup yup. He falls into the same (White) America First group as Greene and Tucker.

Turns out, he was weak on security, so bullet dodged

https://bsky.app/profile/thebulwark.com/post/3mhbgtggyrb2q
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on March 17, 2026, 12:00:46 PM
at least we were well prepared for this war:

https://x.com/Timodc/status/2033951266217279902
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TallTitan34 on March 17, 2026, 12:15:08 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 17, 2026, 12:00:23 PMTurns out, he was weak on security, so bullet dodged

https://bsky.app/profile/thebulwark.com/post/3mhbgtggyrb2q

Oh man, the guy who appointed him must feel like a complete idiot!
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 17, 2026, 12:21:01 PM
https://bsky.app/profile/thebulwark.com/post/3mhbhx7qfpn2l

More good news
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on March 17, 2026, 12:30:33 PM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 17, 2026, 12:00:46 PMat least we were well prepared for this war:

https://x.com/Timodc/status/2033951266217279902

Perfect. Here's the start of a WSJ article on this wonderful move ...

Last week as Iran laid mines in the Persian Gulf, four of the U.S. Navy's few specialist minesweepers were on the move—to Philadelphia and their eventual decommissioning.

The Navy hasn't had a significant mine clearing capability in decades, former naval officers and analysts said. Now it faces having to deal with the risk of mines in one of the world's most important waterways while the West's thinking on how to deal with the seaborne threat is in flux.

Defense companies and navies, including in the U.S., are experimenting with unmanned technology and artificial intelligence that they believe will provide safer and more effective ways of clearing mines before they can do any damage. But while promising, limited amounts of that technology have been produced and it is largely untested in conflict.

"The U.S. Navy has neglected minesweeping, and our limited number of hulls will make it difficult to credibly escort oil tankers in a contested environment," said Eliot Cohen, a scholar at the Center for Strategic and International Studies think tank.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Spaniel with a Short Tail on March 17, 2026, 02:45:55 PM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on March 17, 2026, 12:15:08 PMOh man, the guy who appointed him must feel like a complete idiot iDJiT!

FIFY (I'm done.)


(https://prgumbo.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/no-politics.jpg?w=320)
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on March 17, 2026, 02:51:41 PM
Pretty sure Israel would call this a win-win.

https://x.com/fpleitgenCNN/status/2033938346666266762?s=20
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on March 17, 2026, 05:21:37 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on March 17, 2026, 02:51:41 PMPretty sure Israel would call this a win-win.

https://x.com/fpleitgenCNN/status/2033938346666266762?s=20

Apparently, Jews have the same high moral values as christians.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on March 17, 2026, 05:36:53 PM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on March 17, 2026, 12:15:08 PMOh man, the guy who appointed him must feel like a complete idiot!

he's not the only one:

https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/2034034303613509891
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Shaka Shart on March 17, 2026, 07:27:49 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 17, 2026, 12:00:23 PMTurns out, he was weak on security, so bullet dodged

https://bsky.app/profile/thebulwark.com/post/3mhbgtggyrb2q

That's more than Charlie can say
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on March 18, 2026, 08:36:27 AM
Everyone but Trump Understands What He's Done
Allied leaders know that any positive gesture they make will count for nothing.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/2026/03/trump-iran-war-allies/686423/?gift=hVZeG3M9DnxL4CekrWGK31dWsRj9tVhI4YolO-4zzIE&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share

"Specifically, they remember that for 14 months, the American president has tariffed them, mocked their security concerns, and repeatedly insulted them. As long ago as January 2020, Trump told several European officials that "if Europe is under attack, we will never come to help you and to support you." In February 2025, he told Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky that he had no right to expect support either, because "you don't have any cards." Trump ridiculed Canada as the "51st state" and referred to both the present and previous Canadian prime ministers as "governor." He claimed, incorrectly,that allied troops in Afghanistan "stayed a little back, a little off the front lines," causing huge offense to the families of soldiers who died fighting after NATO invoked Article 5 of the organization's treaty, on behalf of the United States, the only time it has done so. He called the British "our once-great ally," after they refused to participate in the initial assault on Iran; when they discussed sending some aircraft carriers to the Persian Gulf conflict earlier this month, he ridiculed the idea on social media: "We don't need people that join Wars after �we've already won!"

At times, the ugly talk changed into something worse. Before his second inauguration, Trump began hinting that he wouldn't rule out using force to annex Greenland, a territory of Denmark, a close NATO ally. At first this seemed like a troll or a joke; by January 2026, his public and private comments persuaded the Danes to prepare for an American invasion. Danish leaders had to think about whether their military would shoot down American planes, kill American soldiers, and be killed by them, an exercise so wrenching that some still haven't recovered. In Copenhagen a few weeks ago, I was shown a Danish app that tells users which products are American, so that they know not to buy them. At the time it was the most popular app in the country.

He raised tariffs on Switzerland because he didn't like the Swiss president, then lowered them after a Swiss business delegation brought him presents, including a gold bar and a Rolex watch. He threatened to place 100 percent tariffs on Canada should Canada dare to make a trading agreement with China. Unbothered by possible conflicts of interest, he conducted trade negotiations with Vietnam, even as his son Eric Trump was breaking ground on a $1.5 billion golf-course deal in that country."
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on March 18, 2026, 10:25:27 AM
Quote from: Shaka Shart on March 17, 2026, 07:27:49 PMThat's more than Charlie can say

Too soo.... Nah, I'll allow it.  :D
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 18, 2026, 12:11:54 PM
Catholic leaders seem universal in their disagreement with the Christian fundamentalist, Gin Diesel. 


https://bsky.app/profile/christopherjhale.bsky.social/post/3mhdxmuuowc2f

Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Hards Alumni on March 18, 2026, 02:08:37 PM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 17, 2026, 12:00:46 PMat least we were well prepared for this war:

https://x.com/Timodc/status/2033951266217279902

Well, at the very least we refilled the Strategic Oil Reserve while prices were low before Israel yanked our collar and said, "sit"!

Ope, nevermind.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on March 19, 2026, 08:53:54 AM
I don't understand why our European allies won't help us in Iran? What did the US ever do to them?

https://x.com/OJoelsen/status/2034588496199823735

https://x.com/ChrisO_wiki/status/2034577290701492468
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 19, 2026, 08:55:43 AM
Gin Diesel has some thoughts

https://bsky.app/profile/thebulwark.com/post/3mhg5hepv6x2m
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on March 19, 2026, 09:09:07 AM
https://x.com/EWCiolko/status/2034460148773654589
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Scoop Snoop on March 19, 2026, 09:26:00 AM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 19, 2026, 09:09:07 AMhttps://x.com/EWCiolko/status/2034460148773654589

SO glad I already finished drinking my coffee before reading this. I would have spilled it all over myself!  ;D

 Absolutely hilarious and spot on of our oh-so-brave and tough Commander-in-Chief.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on March 19, 2026, 09:37:42 AM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 19, 2026, 08:55:43 AMGin Diesel has some thoughts

https://bsky.app/profile/thebulwark.com/post/3mhg5hepv6x2m

I don't know that I've ever seen someone that is more of a parody of himself that Whisky Pete. Truly. Colin Jost isn't half as over the top playing Pete as Pete is himself in real life.

Again, OF COURSE, Trump nominated an incompetent based on his 100% loyalty, but the Senators that voted to confirm this fool...
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on March 19, 2026, 09:49:38 AM
I'm feeling extra patriotic since next week I'll be driving over 500 miles round trip. So much winning!

https://x.com/GasBuddyGuy/status/2034312339692859421
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on March 19, 2026, 09:54:05 AM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 19, 2026, 09:49:38 AMI'm feeling extra patriotic since next week I'll be driving over 500 miles round trip. So much winning!

https://x.com/GasBuddyGuy/status/2034312339692859421

Chump change compared to the $200B EXTRA they want for the Peace President's latest war of choice.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 19, 2026, 10:28:06 AM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 19, 2026, 09:49:38 AMI'm feeling extra patriotic since next week I'll be driving over 500 miles round trip. So much winning!

https://x.com/GasBuddyGuy/status/2034312339692859421

It's just a few pennies.  What's the big deal?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on March 19, 2026, 11:31:48 AM
Hopefully, when the Idiot sends more troops, they will be led by Barron. Unless of course, he is too busy, as his father was during Vietnam, fighting the brave battle against STDs.

In a 1997 Howard Stern Show interview, Donald Trump described his dating life during the 1980s AIDS epidemic as his "personal Vietnam," specifically citing the risk of contracting sexually transmitted diseases (STDs). Trump, who cowardly received five draft deferments during the actual Vietnam War, called himself a "brave soldier" for navigating the dating scene at that time.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 19, 2026, 11:34:23 AM
https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3mhgfj7joct2p

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Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on March 19, 2026, 01:46:57 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 19, 2026, 11:34:23 AMhttps://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3mhgfj7joct2p

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Racist be racisting.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: NCMUFan on March 19, 2026, 03:32:48 PM
You got to thank Trump for one thing.
Keeping Scoop posters busy with new material.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Shaka Shart on March 19, 2026, 03:38:42 PM
I thought it was impossible for an F35 to be detected to be hit
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 19, 2026, 04:29:13 PM
Quote from: NCMUFan on March 19, 2026, 03:32:48 PMYou got to thank Trump for one thing.
Keeping Scoop posters busy with new material.

And exposing raging hypocrisy.  He's done that in spades. 

Fiscal conservatism?  Fraudulent

Religious morality?  Fraudulent

Executive overreach?  Fraudulent

Constitutional absolution?  Fraudulent

Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on March 19, 2026, 04:54:44 PM
Quote from: NCMUFan on March 19, 2026, 03:32:48 PMYou got to thank Trump for one thing.
Keeping Scoop posters busy with new material.

The Worst President Ever does have an amazing knack for hitting a new low every day or two.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on March 19, 2026, 05:56:49 PM
Quote from: NCMUFan on March 19, 2026, 03:32:48 PMYou got to thank Trump for one thing.
Keeping Scoop posters busy with new material.

Do you think we should just stick to the fact that he raped children instead?

(https://images2.imgbox.com/20/c7/HyFxotfD_o.png) (https://imgbox.com/HyFxotfD)
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Shaka Shart on March 19, 2026, 09:23:11 PM
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on March 19, 2026, 05:56:49 PMDo you think we should just stick to the fact that he raped children instead?

(https://images2.imgbox.com/20/c7/HyFxotfD_o.png) (https://imgbox.com/HyFxotfD)

Why are you so hostile towards people with a different political opinion as you???
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on March 20, 2026, 08:31:58 AM
Quote from: Shaka Shart on March 19, 2026, 09:23:11 PMWhy are you so hostile towards people with a different political opinion as you???

I'm just following the lead of Pope Bob from Chicago
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on March 20, 2026, 10:27:39 AM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 19, 2026, 10:28:06 AMIt's just a few pennies.  What's the big deal?


A few pennies, $1.10/gallon more from one month ago. Tomato/Tomato. Thank you for my sacrifice, Dear Leader.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on March 20, 2026, 10:38:32 AM
From the people who brought you "Mexico will pay for the wall," comes the long-awaited sequel, "Iran will pay for the war."

Rep. Scott Perry (R-PA) concocted a novel funding mechanism for the $200 billion the White House says it is seeking to continue the war on Iran: having the Iranians pay for it.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/republican-congressman-says-iranians-pay-023227588.html
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 20, 2026, 11:12:04 AM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 20, 2026, 10:27:39 AMA few pennies, $1.10/gallon more from one month ago. Tomato/Tomato. Thank you for my sacrifice, Dear Leader.

Maybe we need to Doge your finances, Billy
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TallTitan34 on March 20, 2026, 01:28:36 PM
2,200 more Marines and 3 navy ships headed to Middle East.

Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: SoCalEagle on March 20, 2026, 01:42:13 PM
(Higgins) "It's simple economics. Today it's oil, right? In ten or fifteen years, food. Plutonium. Maybe even sooner. Now, what do you think the people are gonna want us to do then?"
(Joe Turner) "Ask them?"
(Higgins) "Not now; then. Ask 'em when they're running out. Ask 'em when there's no heat in their homes and they're cold. Ask 'em when their engines stop. Ask 'em when people who have never known hunger start going hungry. You wanna know something? They won't want us to ask 'em. They'll just want us to get it for 'em."
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on March 20, 2026, 07:13:21 PM
So what dimension of chess is Dear Leader and Whiskey Pete playing here?

https://x.com/i/status/2035142385210958088
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TallTitan34 on March 20, 2026, 07:23:20 PM
https://x.com/hqnewsnow/status/2035088575608303690?s=46
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: wadesworld on March 20, 2026, 07:32:57 PM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on March 20, 2026, 07:23:20 PMhttps://x.com/hqnewsnow/status/2035088575608303690?s=46

He does not.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TallTitan34 on March 20, 2026, 07:50:35 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on March 20, 2026, 07:32:57 PMHe does not.

Concepts of a plan.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on March 20, 2026, 08:52:05 PM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on March 20, 2026, 07:23:20 PMhttps://x.com/hqnewsnow/status/2035088575608303690?s=46


Sometimes you feel like a nut.  Sometimes you don't.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on March 20, 2026, 09:24:19 PM
Step 1: Start war with Iran purportedly to weaken the ruling regime and its military capabilities.

Step 2: Be unprepared for regime's obvious response to close the Strait of Hormuz, and unable to prevent them from doing it.

Step 3. Watch energy prices surge, harming your domestic economy.

Step 4: Lift oil sanctions on Iran, giving the ruling regime funding needed to strengthen its position and rebuild its military.

Quite a plan.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 20, 2026, 09:47:06 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on March 20, 2026, 09:24:19 PMStep 1: Start war with Iran purportedly to weaken the ruling regime and its military capabilities.

Step 2: Be unprepared for regime's obvious response to close the Strait of Hormuz, and unable to prevent them from doing it.

Step 3. Watch energy prices surge, harming your domestic economy.

Step 4: Lift oil sanctions on Iran, giving the ruling regime funding needed to strengthen its position and rebuild its military.

Quite a plan.

Millions of Americans think the administration is doing a great job.  A nation of idiots.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on March 20, 2026, 10:04:43 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on March 20, 2026, 09:24:19 PMStep 1: Start war with Iran purportedly to weaken the ruling regime and its military capabilities.

Step 2: Be unprepared for regime's obvious response to close the Strait of Hormuz, and unable to prevent them from doing it.

Step 3. Watch energy prices surge, harming your domestic economy.

Step 4: Lift oil sanctions on Iran, giving the ruling regime funding needed to strengthen its position and rebuild its military.

Quite a plan.

"I'm, like, really smart."
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 21, 2026, 08:28:45 AM
Quote from: MU82 on March 20, 2026, 10:04:43 PM"I'm, like, really smart."

"The Art of the Deal"

https://bsky.app/profile/esghound.com/post/3mhjqpsnfwk2n
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on March 21, 2026, 08:31:36 AM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 21, 2026, 08:28:45 AM"The Art of the Deal"

https://bsky.app/profile/esghound.com/post/3mhjqpsnfwk2n

The comments to the Bluesky post are hilarious.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 21, 2026, 08:48:36 AM
Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on March 21, 2026, 08:31:36 AMThe comments to the Bluesky post are hilarious.

Iran, of course, is saying there isn't excess oil to deliver.  Brilliant gambit once again from the dumbest and most corrupt administration in the history of the United States.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TallTitan34 on March 21, 2026, 10:28:14 AM
Going to need more troops for this.

https://x.com/mollyploofkins/status/2034797813633065139?s=46
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 21, 2026, 10:33:58 AM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on March 21, 2026, 10:28:14 AMGoing to need more troops for this.

https://x.com/mollyploofkins/status/2034797813633065139?s=46

What's sad is, there isn't a reason to actually deflect from this story.  It's not like anyone domestically will be held accountable, regardless of affiliations.

There could be indisputable video evidence of people mentioned committing these horrific crimes and they'd get a pass from their side of the aisle.  You think MAGA walks away from dear leader if he's proven to be what these files say he is?  Fat chance.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on March 21, 2026, 12:40:09 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 21, 2026, 08:28:45 AM"The Art of the Deal"

https://bsky.app/profile/esghound.com/post/3mhjqpsnfwk2n

And none of the cult, including those here, will be one iota bothered by this, just like they aren't bothered about lifting sanctions on Russia as they provide Iran with targeting information against our troops and assets.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on March 21, 2026, 03:37:48 PM
Robert Mueller just died," Trump posted on Truth Social. "Good, I'm glad he's dead.


Once trailer trash, always trailer trash.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 21, 2026, 03:44:58 PM
Quote from: Jockey on March 21, 2026, 03:37:48 PMRobert Mueller just died," Trump posted on Truth Social. "Good, I'm glad he's dead.


Once trailer trash, always trailer trash.

I'm sure the crybabies when Charlie Kirk died are equally outraged at the President celebrating someone's death.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on March 21, 2026, 05:40:43 PM
He was just following Jesus' teachings.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 21, 2026, 08:20:18 PM
Announcing war crimes on social media is a bold move. 

https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3mhm7ogccpc2k

Of course, that's an hour after he announced "we've obliterated Iran"

https://bsky.app/profile/groguspeak.bsky.social/post/3mhmbgpsoqs2j

Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on March 21, 2026, 11:09:38 PM
Just about the entire world will be glad when he's ... you know ...
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 22, 2026, 07:20:12 AM
Quote from: MU82 on March 21, 2026, 11:09:38 PMJust about the entire world will be glad when he's ... you know ...

Dead?  Yes, it'll be a great day.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: The Sultan on March 22, 2026, 08:08:32 AM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 21, 2026, 08:20:18 PMAnnouncing war crimes on social media is a bold move. 

https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3mhm7ogccpc2k


And Iran says that they will go after desalination plants in the area if that happens.

I don't know if Trump realizes this, or if he does and is simply lashing out, but the leaders of Iran have very little to lose. Escalation won't end this. They know they have Trump by the short-hairs. The United States is fighting a deeply unpopular war, isolated, running out of weapons, and facing looming economic hardship.

Iran has little incentive to negotiate. They know that the United States cannot permanently open the straight via force. It's very likely going to have to be a negotiated ending where the U.S. can claim a tactical victory, even though everyone would know we essentially lost strategically.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 22, 2026, 08:14:09 AM
Quote from: The Sultan on March 22, 2026, 08:08:32 AMAnd Iran says that they will go after desalination plants in the area if that happens.

I don't know if Trump realizes this, or if he does and is simply lashing out, but the leaders of Iran have very little to lose. Escalation won't end this. They know they have Trump by the short-hairs. The United States is fighting a deeply unpopular war, isolated, running out of weapons, and facing looming economic hardship.

Iran has little incentive to negotiate. They know that the United States cannot permanently open the straight via force. It's very likely going to have to be a negotiated ending where the U.S. can claim a tactical victory, even though everyone would know we essentially lost strategically.

Yet, his mouth breathing supporters still think he's a tactical genius, just proving how stupid people are.

But, it'll just cost the average American a few pennies.  No big deal as we end up spending billions on a war Netanyahu fooled the morons governing America into fighting.

How many Americans have to die at the hands of this administration before Congress does their jobs?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: forgetful on March 22, 2026, 09:13:30 AM
Quote from: The Sultan on March 22, 2026, 08:08:32 AMAnd Iran says that they will go after desalination plants in the area if that happens.

I don't know if Trump realizes this, or if he does and is simply lashing out, but the leaders of Iran have very little to lose. Escalation won't end this. They know they have Trump by the short-hairs. The United States is fighting a deeply unpopular war, isolated, running out of weapons, and facing looming economic hardship.

Iran has little incentive to negotiate. They know that the United States cannot permanently open the straight via force. It's very likely going to have to be a negotiated ending where the U.S. can claim a tactical victory, even though everyone would know we essentially lost strategically.

This was always a war where we could tactically win, but strategically lose, because we had the most to lose from a protracted, unproductive (read just bombing, no regime change, no change in nuclear material) conflict.

Once the tactical victory was obtained, Iran had nothing to lose, but an immense opportunity to cause global economic pain. The US had everything to lose, and a poor ability to inflict lasting change/impact.

Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on March 22, 2026, 09:43:57 AM
What's the worst that could happen?

https://x.com/i/status/2035711636523143547
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on March 22, 2026, 11:32:46 AM
Quote from: The Sultan on March 22, 2026, 08:08:32 AMAnd Iran says that they will go after desalination plants in the area if that happens.

I don't know if Trump realizes this, or if he does and is simply lashing out, but the leaders of Iran have very little to lose. Escalation won't end this. They know they have Trump by the short-hairs. The United States is fighting a deeply unpopular war, isolated, running out of weapons, and facing looming economic hardship.

Iran has little incentive to negotiate. They know that the United States cannot permanently open the straight via force. It's very likely going to have to be a negotiated ending where the U.S. can claim a tactical victory, even though everyone would know we essentially lost strategically.

Yup to all of that.

And remember the very first excuse for the war: to make life better for everyday Iranians? Well, if Capt. Bone Spur goes through with his threat, life certainly will be better for them without access to electricity, natural gas and drinkable water! But hey, when he bombed a school, killed 150+ kids, and then lied and lied and lied about doing so, it was a solid sign that he didn't really give two sh!ts about everyday Iranians.

As for the deadline itself ... whatever happened to the "severe consequences" Putin was gonna face last August if he didn't agree to a ceasefire with Ukraine in two weeks?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on March 22, 2026, 11:45:18 AM
Quote from: The Sultan on March 22, 2026, 08:08:32 AMAnd Iran says that they will go after desalination plants in the area if that happens.

I don't know if Trump realizes this, or if he does and is simply lashing out, but the leaders of Iran have very little to lose. Escalation won't end this. They know they have Trump by the short-hairs. The United States is fighting a deeply unpopular war, isolated, running out of weapons, and facing looming economic hardship.

Iran has little incentive to negotiate. They know that the United States cannot permanently open the straight via force. It's very likely going to have to be a negotiated ending where the U.S. can claim a tactical victory, even though everyone would know we essentially lost strategically.

To add to this, the Iranian regime does not care about and faces no consequences for the hardships endured by its populace. It may in fact work to their benefit, confirming their claims that the Great Satan and Israel wish to do the people harm.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: CreightonWarrior on March 22, 2026, 02:08:21 PM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 22, 2026, 09:43:57 AMWhat's the worst that could happen?

https://x.com/i/status/2035711636523143547
too bad Kristi Noem's no longer in charge. That would've solved the growing "ESA" dog crisis at airports.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 22, 2026, 03:05:26 PM
https://theonion.com/tips-for-saving-on-gas/
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: The Sultan on March 22, 2026, 04:55:36 PM
https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3mhnwu6dcn22c

We have really over-romanticized parts of WWII in a way that people who actually fought in it would never find appropriate.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 22, 2026, 05:26:11 PM
Quote from: The Sultan on March 22, 2026, 04:55:36 PMhttps://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3mhnwu6dcn22c

We have really over-romanticized parts of WWII in a way that people who actually fought in it would never find appropriate.

Lindsay was in the Air Force for years and knows the horrors of war like defending a pilot who smoked weed.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 22, 2026, 05:33:31 PM
https://bsky.app/profile/warrenjwells.bsky.social/post/3mhocpr3jwk22

lol

Entire article:

https://no01.substack.com/p/march-19-21-god-is-a-comedian
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on March 22, 2026, 05:50:42 PM
More on the drunk-ass Fox News weekend host's obsession with this being a Jesus-sanctioned war:

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/20/us/politics/hegseth-christianity-military.html?

He spoke of "overwhelming force" and the U.S. military's unmatched ability to rain "death and destruction from above" on its "apocalyptic" Iranian foes.

Then, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, standing in the Pentagon, issued a call to the American people for a specific kind of wartime prayer. He asked them to pray for victory in battle and the safety of their troops.

"Every day, on bended knee, with your family, in your schools, in your churches," he said, "in the name of Jesus Christ."

At a time when the U.S. and Israeli militaries are dropping thousands of bombs on a majority-Shiite Muslim nation, the explicitly Christian nature of Mr. Hegseth's call stood out.

More than any top American military leader in recent history, Mr. Hegseth has framed U.S. military operations in the Middle East, Africa and Latin America as bigger than politics or foreign policy. Often he has imbued these actions with a Christian moral underpinning that suggests they are divinely sanctioned.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Hards Alumni on March 23, 2026, 06:34:11 AM
Yeah, well he has a Deus Vult tattoo, what did you expect.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TallTitan34 on March 23, 2026, 08:08:31 AM
TACO Monday
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 23, 2026, 08:26:37 AM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on March 23, 2026, 08:08:31 AMTACO Monday

"Sir, your incredible leadership is admirable for how you navigated us through this war and crisis."

Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on March 23, 2026, 08:58:16 AM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 22, 2026, 05:33:31 PMhttps://bsky.app/profile/warrenjwells.bsky.social/post/3mhocpr3jwk22

lol

Entire article:

https://no01.substack.com/p/march-19-21-god-is-a-comedian

The last bit of this could be cross-posted to the Investing thread. I sure hope someone is taking notes for future prosecutions.

"Friday's press gaggle. Barely exaggerated: at 12:03 PM, President Trump told reporters he wanted a ceasefire with Iran. At 12:05 he declared victory. At 12:07 he announced he was sending Marines. At 12:08 he said no boots on the ground. At 12:11 he said he did not want a ceasefire. At 12:16 he declared victory again. At 12:17 he asked for a ceasefire. At 12:23 he told NATO they were cowards. At 12:29 he said Iran was begging for a ceasefire. At 12:31 he said everything was perfect. At 12:36 he said $500 oil was a good thing. At 12:37 he demanded Iran open Hormuz. At 12:39 he said Hormuz was never closed. At 12:41 he said the US was not at war with Iran. At 12:42 he declared victory in Iran.

By 3:43 PM he told CBS he doesn't want a ceasefire. By 5:13 PM - 13 minutes after futures markets closed for the weekend, in a coincidence that should be studied in every securities fraud textbook - he posted on Truth Social that the US is "getting very close to meeting our objectives as we consider winding down our great Military efforts". The S&P reversed more than 1% in seconds. QQQ had already surged 1.1% in the 80 minutes before the announcement, with call options flowing in at a pace that suggests someone, somewhere, had an itinerary."
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 23, 2026, 09:13:58 AM
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on March 23, 2026, 08:58:16 AMThe last bit of this could be cross-posted to the Investing thread. I sure hope someone is taking notes for future prosecutions.

"Friday's press gaggle. Barely exaggerated: at 12:03 PM, President Trump told reporters he wanted a ceasefire with Iran. At 12:05 he declared victory. At 12:07 he announced he was sending Marines. At 12:08 he said no boots on the ground. At 12:11 he said he did not want a ceasefire. At 12:16 he declared victory again. At 12:17 he asked for a ceasefire. At 12:23 he told NATO they were cowards. At 12:29 he said Iran was begging for a ceasefire. At 12:31 he said everything was perfect. At 12:36 he said $500 oil was a good thing. At 12:37 he demanded Iran open Hormuz. At 12:39 he said Hormuz was never closed. At 12:41 he said the US was not at war with Iran. At 12:42 he declared victory in Iran.

By 3:43 PM he told CBS he doesn't want a ceasefire. By 5:13 PM - 13 minutes after futures markets closed for the weekend, in a coincidence that should be studied in every securities fraud textbook - he posted on Truth Social that the US is "getting very close to meeting our objectives as we consider winding down our great Military efforts". The S&P reversed more than 1% in seconds. QQQ had already surged 1.1% in the 80 minutes before the announcement, with call options flowing in at a pace that suggests someone, somewhere, had an itinerary."

"Greatest economy the world has ever seen"
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 23, 2026, 09:33:34 AM
https://bsky.app/profile/mattgertz.bsky.social/post/3mhq3lll2ac2x

Incredible
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on March 23, 2026, 10:22:42 AM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 23, 2026, 09:33:34 AMIncredible

Not really. More like "expected."
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 23, 2026, 10:25:52 AM
Quote from: MU82 on March 23, 2026, 10:22:42 AMNot really. More like "expected."

I just want someone to try and convince him the troops could win the Super Bowl and let him cook
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on March 23, 2026, 10:26:45 AM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 23, 2026, 10:25:52 AMI just want someone to try and convince him the troops could win the Super Bowl and let him cook

This was also expected:

Republican Chad Bianco, the Riverside County sheriff running for California governor, seized over 500,000 ballots from last year's special election, saying he's investigating alleged discrepancies. Officials disputed his claim. (From the L.A. Times)
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on March 23, 2026, 11:32:43 AM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 23, 2026, 09:33:34 AMhttps://bsky.app/profile/mattgertz.bsky.social/post/3mhq3lll2ac2x

Incredible

I'm at LaGuardia now.  My 9:00am flight was obviously cancelled.  I somehow found an alternate flight just after the 2:00 reopening to get me to Michigan for Tuesday business meetings.

ICE is all over although it seems like they are just wandering around outside the security line.  At least their faces are not covered.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on March 23, 2026, 11:38:36 AM
When you've lost even Gerard Baker ...

https://x.com/gerardtbaker/status/2036050876389863708?s=20
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 23, 2026, 11:55:16 AM
Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on March 23, 2026, 11:32:43 AMI'm at LaGuardia now.  My 9:00am flight was obviously cancelled.  I somehow found an alternate flight just after the 2:00 reopening to get me to Michigan for Tuesday business meetings.

ICE is all over although it seems like they are just wandering around outside the security line.  At least their faces are not covered.

It's called a "freedoms delay"
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 23, 2026, 12:04:38 PM
https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/state-department-worldwide-caution-22090968.php

Luckily, we have top people working in positions to keep Americans safe and identify potential threats. 
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on March 23, 2026, 12:20:49 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 23, 2026, 12:04:38 PMhttps://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/state-department-worldwide-caution-22090968.php

Luckily, we have top people working in positions to keep Americans safe and identify potential threats. 

(https://images2.imgbox.com/fe/be/Aqem6T5w_o.png) (https://imgbox.com/Aqem6T5w)
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 23, 2026, 01:06:21 PM
Sleepy time

https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3mhqllqpmns2c
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 23, 2026, 01:59:36 PM
This Freedom Delay video is nice

https://bsky.app/profile/marisakabas.bsky.social/post/3mhqjyarz322q
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: cheebs09 on March 23, 2026, 02:23:16 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 23, 2026, 01:59:36 PMThis Freedom Delay video is nice

https://bsky.app/profile/marisakabas.bsky.social/post/3mhqjyarz322q

Looks like a long line of people overcome with joy due to all the winning.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on March 23, 2026, 02:38:11 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 23, 2026, 01:06:21 PMSleepy time

https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3mhqllqpmns2c

Low-Energy, Low-Ratings Donnie.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Shaka Shart on March 23, 2026, 04:28:25 PM
I am flying internationally in two weeks. Officially feeling nervous about my domestic to Intl connection
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: ATL MU Warrior on March 23, 2026, 04:32:08 PM
Quote from: Shaka Shart on March 23, 2026, 04:28:25 PMI am flying internationally in two weeks. Officially feeling nervous about my domestic to Intl connection
Thoughts and prayers
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Hards Alumni on March 23, 2026, 04:58:19 PM
Quote from: Shaka Shart on March 23, 2026, 04:28:25 PMI am flying internationally in two weeks. Officially feeling nervous about my domestic to Intl connection

I leave Saturday, I'll let you know.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: wadesworld on March 23, 2026, 05:11:05 PM
My wife and I went in to enroll in TSA precheck (we only fly once or twice a year, so have never really had the need).  The guy who was doing our appointment said something like, "This is nice to have" and we said, "Especially now."  He was like, "Is something going on?  I've had a bunch of people say something like that this week."  We said yeah, TSA jobs are being cut and they're telling people to show up 4 hours early for domestic flights."  He was like "Oh, no wonder we have record numbers this week."
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 23, 2026, 05:24:34 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on March 23, 2026, 05:11:05 PMMy wife and I went in to enroll in TSA precheck (we only fly once or twice a year, so have never really had the need).  The guy who was doing our appointment said something like, "This is nice to have" and we said, "Especially now."  He was like, "Is something going on?  I've had a bunch of people say something like that this week."  We said yeah, TSA jobs are being cut and they're telling people to show up 4 hours early for domestic flights."  He was like "Oh, no wonder we have record numbers this week."

Maybe we need to Doge how you spend your time if you don't have 4 hours to spare at the airport.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 23, 2026, 07:30:54 PM
Side effect of the war, part 743,779:

https://bsky.app/profile/joncooper-us.bsky.social/post/3mhr3lq4nzs27

No big deal, I'm sure
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MUBurrow on March 23, 2026, 07:35:15 PM
Honest question - with regime change all but off the table, what are the current objectives of this war? Like, from a "light most favorable to the administration" standpoint.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 23, 2026, 07:42:48 PM
Quote from: MUBurrow on March 23, 2026, 07:35:15 PMHonest question - with regime change all but off the table, what are the current objectives of this war? Like, from a "light most favorable to the administration" standpoint.

There are none.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: The Sultan on March 23, 2026, 07:46:52 PM
Quote from: MUBurrow on March 23, 2026, 07:35:15 PMHonest question - with regime change all but off the table, what are the current objectives of this war? Like, from a "light most favorable to the administration" standpoint.

Status quo ante and declare victory.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Shaka Shart on March 23, 2026, 08:18:55 PM
Quote from: MUBurrow on March 23, 2026, 07:35:15 PMHonest question - with regime change all but off the table, what are the current objectives of this war? Like, from a "light most favorable to the administration" standpoint.

The rapture
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: forgetful on March 24, 2026, 01:16:54 AM
Quote from: MUBurrow on March 23, 2026, 07:35:15 PMHonest question - with regime change all but off the table, what are the current objectives of this war? Like, from a "light most favorable to the administration" standpoint.

I'm still hopeful we get regime change in the US.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on March 24, 2026, 07:32:11 AM
Quote from: Shaka Shart on March 23, 2026, 04:28:25 PMI am flying internationally in two weeks. Officially feeling nervous about my domestic to Intl connection

I'm flying international in 3 weeks. 
For anyone flying to Europe, April 10 the EU finally starts with the digital fingerprints recording and facial scan.  It will be faster on your second trip as you only have to do once.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on March 24, 2026, 09:14:41 AM
I saw gasoline up to $4.19 a gallon for regular on my drive to my studio last night. It makes me feel so patriotic we've moved past the crisis of last October:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/10/gas-prices-hit-four-year-low-under-trump/
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 24, 2026, 09:25:15 AM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 24, 2026, 09:14:41 AMI saw gasoline up to $4.19 a gallon for regular on my drive to my studio last night. It makes me feel so patriotic we've moved past the crisis of last October:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/10/gas-prices-hit-four-year-low-under-trump/

It's a Freedom Tax great patriots are willing to pay to help Make Iran Great Again
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Scoop Snoop on March 24, 2026, 10:06:31 AM
Let's cut the guy some slack scoopers! So he lost one. No big deal. It happens. No one will care after he takes Cuba.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on March 24, 2026, 10:10:52 AM
Quote from: Hards Alumni on March 23, 2026, 04:58:19 PMI leave Saturday, I'll let you know.

I have 6 (domestic) trips in the next 7 weeks. I am unnatural carnal knowledgeed.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on March 24, 2026, 10:13:08 AM
Quote from: MUBurrow on March 23, 2026, 07:35:15 PMHonest question - with regime change all but off the table, what are the current objectives of this war? Like, from a "light most favorable to the administration" standpoint.

Make money for your family and friends. If more soldiers have to die, it is a small price to pay.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on March 24, 2026, 10:16:47 AM
Quote from: forgetful on March 24, 2026, 01:16:54 AMI'm still hopeful we get regime change in the US.

We've decided war crimes don't matter and that kidnapping and imprisoning, or outright assassinating, foreign leaders is perfectly fine. So there's hope.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: forgetful on March 24, 2026, 10:16:59 AM
Note: Complete and total conspiracy theory here.

Saudi Arabia has been pushing for Israel and the US to continue their war, saying it provides and opportunity to reshape the Middle East.

What if their goal is not to take out Iran, but to have Iran exhaust Israel's, and maybe the US's defense missiles. Then to take over the attack with the regions largest and most capable missile systems.

Targting Israel and possibly the US to reshape the Middle East pack into an Arab dominated region with them in control and the US having to vacate the region or engage in a broad Middle Eastern war we can't win.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Hards Alumni on March 24, 2026, 10:19:23 AM
No.  The US even when out of defense missles can destroy all of KSAs oil infrastructure in about an hour.  They do not do anything else.  There is an incredible amount of codependency between KSA and the US. 
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on March 24, 2026, 10:28:15 AM
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on March 24, 2026, 10:10:52 AMI have 6 (domestic) trips in the next 7 weeks. I am unnatural carnal knowledgeed.

It depends what airports you're flying out of. Midsize airports aren't reporting the massive lines. My SIL flew internationally out of IND last week (spring break for her kid) and said her family got through security in less than 10 minutes. This was from a Reddit post yesterday:

https://www.reddit.com/r/indianapolis/comments/1s1ldyp/airport_security_wait_times_at_1215_on_monday/
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: ATL MU Warrior on March 24, 2026, 10:28:29 AM
is it wrong that I am immensely enjoying Iran starting to turn the Trump dis-information playbook back on Trump?  Calling reporting on supposedly ongoing negotiations "fake news" etc.?

It's startling that I think I believe them more than I believe our own government now.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on March 24, 2026, 10:32:17 AM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 24, 2026, 10:28:15 AMIt depends what airports you're flying out of. Midsize airports aren't reporting the massive lines. My SIL flew internationally out of IND last week (spring break for her kid) and said her family got through security in less than 10 minutes. This was from a Reddit post yesterday:

https://www.reddit.com/r/indianapolis/comments/1s1ldyp/airport_security_wait_times_at_1215_on_monday/

The ones I am concerned about are Houston Hobby and New Orleans. 2-4 hour waits reported at both.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on March 24, 2026, 10:42:07 AM
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on March 24, 2026, 10:32:17 AMThe ones I am concerned about are Houston Hobby and New Orleans. 2-4 hour waits reported at both.


it will depend on the time of day. You're screwed if you have a morning flight but good if your flight is mid afternoon (see the CNN report from Atlanta yesterday).
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on March 24, 2026, 11:48:35 AM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 24, 2026, 10:28:15 AMIt depends what airports you're flying out of. Midsize airports aren't reporting the massive lines. My SIL flew internationally out of IND last week (spring break for her kid) and said her family got through security in less than 10 minutes. This was from a Reddit post yesterday:

https://www.reddit.com/r/indianapolis/comments/1s1ldyp/airport_security_wait_times_at_1215_on_monday/

I was through LaGuardia yesterday in 1 minute.
I'll tell you about Detroit Wayne tomorrow afternoon.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 24, 2026, 12:01:36 PM
Art of the Deal at work

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/iran-toughens-negotiating-stance-amid-mediation-efforts-sources-say-2026-03-24/
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Scoop Snoop on March 24, 2026, 12:35:50 PM
Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on March 24, 2026, 11:48:35 AMI was through LaGuardia yesterday in 1 minute.
I'll tell you about Detroit Wayne tomorrow afternoon.

Not that's a New York minute!
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on March 24, 2026, 01:42:54 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 24, 2026, 12:01:36 PMArt of the Deal at work

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/iran-toughens-negotiating-stance-amid-mediation-efforts-sources-say-2026-03-24/

Do I believe a terrorist regime or a demented pathological liar? Tough call.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 24, 2026, 02:17:33 PM
Thank you, sir.  Sounds like strong talks

https://bsky.app/profile/thebulwark.com/post/3mhtbonbl6s2k
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on March 24, 2026, 03:06:51 PM
Capt. Bone Spur says Iran wants a deal "so badly" and they have offered "a very significant prize."

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cn8dldl0jx9t?post=asset%3A544242e0-7c24-4c1e-9208-9fa74ed89eb7#post
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Hards Alumni on March 24, 2026, 03:36:29 PM
Quote from: MU82 on March 24, 2026, 03:06:51 PMCapt. Bone Spur says Iran wants a deal "so badly" and they have offered "a very significant prize."

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cn8dldl0jx9t?post=asset%3A544242e0-7c24-4c1e-9208-9fa74ed89eb7#post

Is it the Iranian Peace Prize presented by Exxon?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: wadesworld on March 24, 2026, 03:44:36 PM
Quote from: Hards Alumni on March 24, 2026, 03:36:29 PMIs it the Iranian Peace Prize presented by Exxon?

Maybe Shirin Ebadi's or Narges Mohammadi's Nobel Peace Prize?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 24, 2026, 03:47:13 PM
Going to go ahead and bookmark this beaut from Gin Diesel

https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3mhtbmdqt4l26
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on March 24, 2026, 04:03:58 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 24, 2026, 03:47:13 PMGoing to go ahead and bookmark this beaut from Gin Diesel

https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3mhtbmdqt4l26


Tough talk from a guy with a 5-figure makeup studio.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 24, 2026, 04:05:23 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on March 24, 2026, 04:03:58 PMTough talk from a guy with a 5-figure makeup studio.

To his credit, he hasn't hit any women lately.  Well, as far as we know.  #alpha
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TallTitan34 on March 24, 2026, 04:54:37 PM
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on March 24, 2026, 10:28:29 AMis it wrong that I am immensely enjoying Iran starting to turn the Trump dis-information playbook back on Trump?  Calling reporting on supposedly ongoing negotiations "fake news" etc.?

It's startling that I think I believe them more than I believe our own government now.


Jon Stewart had a segment on this last night.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: forgetful on March 24, 2026, 05:44:27 PM
Why do I feel like the prize is going to be Iran gets to sell more oil, and they promise to invest in the US. In exchange, they will promise to not pursue the nuclear weapon that they already promised not to pursue. Oh, and they will place nice with their Arab neighbors, that they were already playing nice with prior to the 2nd unilateral strike on them by the US/Israel.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 24, 2026, 05:55:23 PM
Quote from: forgetful on March 24, 2026, 05:44:27 PMWhy do I feel like the prize is going to be Iran gets to sell more oil, and they promise to invest in the US. In exchange, they will promise to not pursue the nuclear weapon that they already promised not to pursue. Oh, and they will place nice with their Arab neighbors, that they were already playing nice with prior to the 2nd unilateral strike on them by the US/Israel.

The Art of the Deal
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: jesmu84 on March 24, 2026, 06:42:29 PM
Lifting oil sanctions on Iran gave them significantly more money than Obama ever did
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 24, 2026, 07:51:10 PM
Quote from: jesmu84 on March 24, 2026, 06:42:29 PMLifting oil sanctions on Iran gave them significantly more money than Obama ever did

The Art of the Deal
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Skatastrophy on March 24, 2026, 08:00:50 PM
Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on March 24, 2026, 11:48:35 AMI was through LaGuardia yesterday in 1 minute.
I'll tell you about Detroit Wayne tomorrow afternoon.
Man it took me 1h15 to get through Terminal B at LGA on Sunday morning.

No passengers were at the gate when boarding started. It was wild seeing people spring through the airport all morning. Buncha people doing it to themselves. All of the airport employees were super stressed out because of pissed off passengers. 

I'm sure it's better now with ICE helping lol
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on March 25, 2026, 05:12:50 AM
Quote from: Skatastrophy on March 24, 2026, 08:00:50 PMMan it took me 1h15 to get through Terminal B at LGA on Sunday morning.

No passengers were at the gate when boarding started. It was wild seeing people spring through the airport all morning. Buncha people doing it to themselves. All of the airport employees were super stressed out because of pissed off passengers.

I'm sure it's better now with ICE helping lol

I was in Terminal C and I have digital Pre-check.
But the regular line was short.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 25, 2026, 07:28:34 AM
Lolololololololololol

https://bsky.app/profile/dmsilverman.bsky.social/post/3mhv2wkyris2g
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on March 25, 2026, 08:50:11 AM
Quote from: forgetful on March 24, 2026, 05:44:27 PMWhy do I feel like the prize is going to be Iran gets to sell more oil, and they promise to invest in the US. In exchange, they will promise to not pursue the nuclear weapon that they already promised not to pursue. Oh, and they will place nice with their Arab neighbors, that they were already playing nice with prior to the 2nd unilateral strike on them by the US/Israel.

It would certainly fit Trump's pattern of stupidly breaking things, fixing it but not as good as it was before, claim the most brilliant victory in the history of history.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on March 25, 2026, 09:00:26 AM
Quote from: MU82 on March 24, 2026, 01:42:54 PMDo I believe a terrorist regime or a demented pathological liar? Tough call.

https://x.com/TVietor08/status/2036785967315706169
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Hards Alumni on March 25, 2026, 09:35:15 AM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 25, 2026, 09:00:26 AMhttps://x.com/TVietor08/status/2036785967315706169

Amazing that the staff responsible is creating their own tailored algo personally for the President so his feelings don't get hurt.  Safe space and a TikTok attention span.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on March 25, 2026, 09:37:18 AM
Quote from: Hards Alumni on March 25, 2026, 09:35:15 AMAmazing that the staff responsible is creating their own tailored algo personally for the President so his feelings don't get hurt.  Safe space and a TikTok attention span.

Did you see the press conference in Memphis yesterday? Kim Jong Un thought that was overkill.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Spotcheck Billy on March 25, 2026, 12:48:27 PM
Quote from: MUBurrow on March 23, 2026, 07:35:15 PMHonest question - with regime change all but off the table, what are the current objectives of this war? Like, from a "light most favorable to the administration" standpoint.
To make obscene $$$$
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: The Sultan on March 25, 2026, 03:53:02 PM
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/trump-hit-iran-harder-if-tehran-does-not-accept-defeat-white-house-says-2026-03-25

"Citing unnamed sources, media outlets on Tuesday reported that Washington sent Tehran a 15-point plan on ending the war. Leavitt said on Wednesday that elements of the reports were not fully accurate, but ⁠she did not provide specifics."


See this is the problem. We have ten points too many!
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on March 25, 2026, 04:58:54 PM
3x as good as Muggsy's best plan!
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Scoop Snoop on March 25, 2026, 05:48:52 PM
Quote from: MU82 on March 25, 2026, 04:58:54 PM3x as good as Muggsy's best plan!

But the 15 points have been revealed, right? Muggsy keeps us in suspense by not telling us what his 5 points are. On a few occasions, he has gifted us with a hint about them followed by "that's all you need to know".
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 25, 2026, 06:51:51 PM
https://bsky.app/profile/acyn.bsky.social/post/3mhwbfv3xqq2w

In case you thought Congress wasn't hard at work
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: jesmu84 on March 25, 2026, 07:37:16 PM
Why haven't the Dems put forward a war powers resolution?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 25, 2026, 07:38:58 PM
Quote from: jesmu84 on March 25, 2026, 07:37:16 PMWhy haven't the Dems put forward a war powers resolution?

Because they're useless and terrible at politics
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Spaniel with a Short Tail on March 25, 2026, 08:23:42 PM
https://www.politico.com/newsletters/forecast/2026/03/25/is-this-americas-suez-moment-00845036


(https://media.tenor.com/IGjDL2QUgIkAAAAM/that-is-history-lance-geiger.gif)
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: forgetful on March 25, 2026, 10:11:49 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 25, 2026, 06:51:51 PMhttps://bsky.app/profile/acyn.bsky.social/post/3mhwbfv3xqq2w

In case you thought Congress wasn't hard at work

I really thought that was AI, then I googled it...sad.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: forgetful on March 25, 2026, 10:12:53 PM
Quote from: jesmu84 on March 25, 2026, 07:37:16 PMWhy haven't the Dems put forward a war powers resolution?

They did. Voted down 47-53 along party lines.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Hards Alumni on March 26, 2026, 06:18:58 AM
Quote from: forgetful on March 25, 2026, 10:12:53 PMThey did. Voted down 47-53 along party lines.

Paul and Fetterman went against party.  And that was the Senate.

Also, there is this.

https://www.commondreams.org/news/meeks-jeffries-back-off-war-powers
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 26, 2026, 06:25:16 AM
https://bsky.app/profile/mangaalerts.com/post/3mhw45pdbvs27

Just a few more pennies
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on March 26, 2026, 07:06:01 AM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 25, 2026, 06:51:51 PMhttps://bsky.app/profile/acyn.bsky.social/post/3mhwbfv3xqq2w

In case you thought Congress wasn't hard at work

America is at the point where people need to create pretend golden awards to placate its increasingly childish and insane ruler.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on March 26, 2026, 07:07:53 AM
Quote from: Hards Alumni on March 26, 2026, 06:18:58 AMPaul and Fetterman went against party.  And that was the Senate.

Also, there is this.

https://www.commondreams.org/news/meeks-jeffries-back-off-war-powers

Jeffries and Schumer are just the sort of fighters America needs at this juncture.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: jesmu84 on March 26, 2026, 07:22:54 AM
https://x.com/i/status/2036898069388611641
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: cheebs09 on March 26, 2026, 08:05:37 AM
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on March 26, 2026, 07:06:01 AMAmerica is at the point where people need to create pretend golden awards to placate its increasingly childish and insane ruler.

Participation trophies are no longer woke.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: CreightonWarrior on March 26, 2026, 09:03:38 AM
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on March 25, 2026, 05:48:52 PMBut the 15 points have been revealed, right? Muggsy keeps us in suspense by not telling us what his 5 points are. On a few occasions, he has gifted us with a hint about them followed by "that's all you need to know".
The manatee are still being trained for their kamikaze runs. He's not quite ready to unveil that though.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 26, 2026, 10:58:54 AM
Wow, sounds real

https://bsky.app/profile/thebulwark.com/post/3mhxwtychqh2k
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: wadesworld on March 26, 2026, 11:03:13 AM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 26, 2026, 10:58:54 AMWow, sounds real

https://bsky.app/profile/thebulwark.com/post/3mhxwtychqh2k

https://www.whitehouse.gov/releases/2025/06/irans-nuclear-facilities-have-been-obliterated-and-suggestions-otherwise-are-fake-news/
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 26, 2026, 11:04:41 AM
Quote from: wadesworld on March 26, 2026, 11:03:13 AMhttps://www.whitehouse.gov/releases/2025/06/irans-nuclear-facilities-have-been-obliterated-and-suggestions-otherwise-are-fake-news/

🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: cheebs09 on March 26, 2026, 11:17:59 AM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 26, 2026, 10:58:54 AMWow, sounds real

https://bsky.app/profile/thebulwark.com/post/3mhxwtychqh2k

Coming to a department store near you.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on March 26, 2026, 11:55:54 AM
Quote from: jesmu84 on March 25, 2026, 07:37:16 PMWhy haven't the Dems put forward a war powers resolution?

Edit: Beaten repeatedly to the punch.

They have.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5799286-iran-war-powers-resolution-defeated/
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on March 26, 2026, 12:00:54 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 26, 2026, 10:58:54 AMWow, sounds real

https://bsky.app/profile/thebulwark.com/post/3mhxwtychqh2k

"If I have to create stories ... that's what I'm going to do."
- JD Vance, September 2024
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 26, 2026, 12:08:02 PM
The Art of the Deal at work

https://bsky.app/profile/thebulwark.com/post/3mhy3leykwn2b
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Hards Alumni on March 26, 2026, 12:12:18 PM
and another thing: im not mad. please dont put in the newspaper that i got mad.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on March 26, 2026, 12:24:06 PM
Sigh.

He blabbered out loud at the end of first mis-administration that he wanted to get the US out of NATO. Now he is working non-stop towards that end, to please Putin.

What happens when he attacks a NATO ally (Denmark) or some other completely asinine thing?

I cannot believe where this country is thanks to NAZI MAGA.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TallTitan34 on March 26, 2026, 10:07:29 PM
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on March 26, 2026, 12:24:06 PMI cannot believe where this country is thanks to NAZI MAGA.

But hey the other lady laughed too much.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Hards Alumni on March 27, 2026, 06:07:22 AM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on March 26, 2026, 10:07:29 PMBut hey the other lady laughed too much.

Eh, she was a bad candidate.  Needed someone inspiring and instead got whatever the DNC felt like doing at the last minute.  Objective failure.

But yeah, what we got was far far worse.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 27, 2026, 06:37:03 AM
Quote from: Hards Alumni on March 27, 2026, 06:07:22 AMEh, she was a bad candidate.  Needed someone inspiring and instead got whatever the DNC felt like doing at the last minute.  Objective failure.

But yeah, what we got was far far worse.

I dunno.  The economy is the greatest the world has ever seen.  Our position in the world has never been stronger.  We're allowed to be openly racist, sexist, homophobic and attack the Muslim faith without consequence.  Our government is murdering citizens without consequence.  We're finally making voting harder than ever.  We have the highest qualified cabinet since Lincoln.  We're getting the presidents signature on money, long one of the most pressing issues in the country.  Healthcare has never been less expensive.  We're punishing states that didn't vote the "right way".  We've never been more energy independent.  Science has finally been crushed, along with education.

So, what we got is great, imo.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Hards Alumni on March 27, 2026, 07:17:16 AM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 27, 2026, 06:37:03 AMI dunno.  The economy is the greatest the world has ever seen.  Our position in the world has never been stronger.  We're allowed to be openly racist, sexist, homophobic and attack the Muslim faith without consequence.  Our government is murdering citizens without consequence.  We're finally making voting harder than ever.  We have the highest qualified cabinet since Lincoln.  We're getting the presidents signature on money, long one of the most pressing issues in the country.  Healthcare has never been less expensive.  We're punishing states that didn't vote the "right way".  We've never been more energy independent.  Science has finally been crushed, along with education.

So, what we got is great, imo.

Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 27, 2026, 07:51:52 AM
Quote from: Hards Alumni on March 27, 2026, 07:17:16 AMOther than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?

Listen, the ideas of fiscal conservatism, family values, religious morality, constitutional law, small government and weak executive have been exposed as laughable, so at least we have that.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Skatastrophy on March 27, 2026, 08:53:57 AM
Oil shortages predicted in April in the US. I'm preparing by reducing travel plans in the coming months to focus on Chicago summer. I'm not sure I've lived through oil shortages before? Market impacts across the board are getting priced in now, I assume. 
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 27, 2026, 09:21:10 AM
Quote from: Hards Alumni on March 27, 2026, 07:17:16 AMOther than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?

When they tell you to be quiet about the "tired tropes" of racism and sexism defining the party they support, just remember this:

https://bsky.app/profile/kevinmkruse.bsky.social/post/3mi2ajxvgg224

We're neutering ourselves because of how photo-ops would look.  Our capacity to wage war and provide the best support to our troops is hampered because of insecure masculinity.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on March 27, 2026, 04:49:07 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 27, 2026, 06:37:03 AMI dunno.  The economy is the greatest the world has ever seen.  Our position in the world has never been stronger.  We're allowed to be openly racist, sexist, homophobic and attack the Muslim faith without consequence.  Our government is murdering citizens without consequence.  We're finally making voting harder than ever.  We have the highest qualified cabinet since Lincoln.  We're getting the presidents signature on money, long one of the most pressing issues in the country.  Healthcare has never been less expensive.  We're punishing states that didn't vote the "right way".  We've never been more energy independent.  Science has finally been crushed, along with education.

So, what we got is great, imo.

You forgot to mention all the valuable information Americans have received about Sharpies, paper clips, "windmills," drapes, etc.

Oh, and as a bonus, U.S. soldiers and Iranian schoolkids are getting killed. There were too many of both anyway.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on March 27, 2026, 07:43:41 PM
Quote from: MU82 on March 27, 2026, 04:49:07 PMYou forgot to mention all the valuable information Americans have received about Sharpies, paper clips, "windmills," drapes, etc.

Oh, and as a bonus, U.S. soldiers and Iranian schoolkids are getting killed. There were too many of both anyway.

And Barron, like the rest of the heroic clan, will never fight in the war. As a country we cannot afford to risk the lives of these heroic patriots.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on March 27, 2026, 11:27:18 PM
Can't help it. He has flat feet.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: forgetful on March 28, 2026, 12:31:06 AM
Apparently we are using cluster bombs in Iran.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/27/us/antitank-mines-iran.html

Israel and us criticize Iran for doing the same thing we are doing. Not surprising.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 28, 2026, 01:12:49 AM
Lest we think "just get control of Hormuz and all is good"

There are many things in life we can't control...

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/iran-strait-of-hormuz-bab-el-mandeb-yemen-houthis/

(https://media1.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTZjMDliOTUycW91Z296Y2VrMnN4dmh3ZGdpZTF0Nm1pY2Jrc3ppcmcwbzJ2ZHlidiZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9cw/ShG7pR9wK5GjthG46x/giphy.gif)

QuoteAn Iranian strike injured 12 U.S. troops in Saudi Arabia, two of them seriously, on the Prince Sultan Air Base, two U.S. officials, who were not authorized to speak publicly, said on Friday.

The combined missile and drone attack amounted to one of the most serious breaches of American air defenses in the course of the monthlong war with Iran. At least two KC-135 aerial refueling planes also suffered significant damage in the attack.

... But I've heard we already won?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 28, 2026, 01:52:32 AM
Yemen... And it's off like donkey Kong

QuoteThe Israeli military said it had detected the launch of a missile from Yemen toward Israel on Saturday. The military did not say who it suspected of launching the missile. The Iran-allied Houthi militia, which controls much of Yemen and has fired missiles at Israel in the past, had raised the possibility on Friday that it might enter the conflict.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on March 28, 2026, 08:31:52 AM
Clown show.

U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio hasurged G7 allies to prepare for a possible Iranian plan to impose permanent tolls on ships transiting the Strait of Hormuz, calling it illegal and dangerous.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/insight/rubio-warns-of-hormuz-toll-crisis/gm-GMAFA41150?gemSnapshotKey=GMAFA41150-snapshot-10
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 28, 2026, 09:05:38 AM
Quote from: Pakuni on March 28, 2026, 08:31:52 AMClown show.

U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio hasurged G7 allies to prepare for a possible Iranian plan to impose permanent tolls on ships transiting the Strait of Hormuz, calling it illegal and dangerous.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/insight/rubio-warns-of-hormuz-toll-crisis/gm-GMAFA41150?gemSnapshotKey=GMAFA41150-snapshot-10

The rest of the world needs to pay the Patriot Toll.  It's only probably a few pennies.  Tell those countries to Doge their finances.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 28, 2026, 02:08:57 PM
Onion hasn't been missing much lately

https://bsky.app/profile/theonion.com/post/3mi5cx4swzq2l
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: The Sultan on March 29, 2026, 08:18:36 AM
Pope Woke I at it again...

https://bsky.app/profile/richraho.bsky.social/post/3mi6wckqtts2h
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on March 29, 2026, 09:59:58 AM
it's a good thing the Iranian military has been "completely obliterated," something bad could happen:

https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/2038264969087570160
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: #UnleashThePortal on March 29, 2026, 11:26:39 AM
Iran is putting up a hell of a fight for a country who lost the war 3 weeks ago.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TallTitan34 on March 29, 2026, 12:30:59 PM
Quote from: #UnleashThePortal on March 29, 2026, 11:26:39 AMIran is putting up a hell of a fight for a country who lost the war 3 weeks ago.

And then again lost it last week.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on March 29, 2026, 12:57:18 PM
Quote from: #UnleashThePortal on March 29, 2026, 11:26:39 AMIran is putting up a hell of a fight for a country who lost the war 3 weeks ago.

From the Economist:

Although Donald Trump says he has "destroyed 100% of Iran's Military Capability", the 0% that apparently remains is playing havoc with the global economy by choking off 10-15% of its oil supply.

Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: forgetful on March 29, 2026, 01:32:15 PM
Legitimate fear. Israel targeted Russian/Iranian assets in the Caspian see a little while back. That impacted Russias key ability to trade with Iran.

The currently have a Russian owned tanker heading to Cuba to break the embargo.

If Trump/US seizes that tanker, further challenging Russias sphere of influence, I wouldn't be shocked to see Russia at least threaten an attack on Israel, especially if they continue actions in the Caspian Sea.

That would open a whole new can of worms.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Shaka Shart on March 29, 2026, 02:35:03 PM
Forget 42 with a weed conviction, can we open up military service to all dentists?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on March 29, 2026, 03:03:00 PM
Quote from: forgetful on March 29, 2026, 01:32:15 PMIf Trump/US seizes that tanker, further challenging Russias sphere of influence, I wouldn't be shocked to see Israel at least threaten an attack on Israel, especially if they continue actions in the Caspian Sea.


netanyahu is just a stone cold killer. He will even assassinate Netanyahu to satisfy his bloodlust.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on March 29, 2026, 03:04:50 PM
Quote from: #UnleashThePortal on March 29, 2026, 11:26:39 AMIran is putting up a hell of a fight for a country who lost the war 3 weeks ago.

One country has already lost this war.

Hint: its leader is a genius.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: cheebs09 on March 29, 2026, 03:26:38 PM
Quote from: Shaka Shart on March 29, 2026, 02:35:03 PMForget 42 with a weed conviction, can we open up military service to all dentists?

It would also reduce ICE numbers.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: forgetful on March 29, 2026, 03:53:44 PM
Quote from: Jockey on March 29, 2026, 03:03:00 PMnetanyahu is just a stone cold killer. He will even assassinate Netanyahu to satisfy his bloodlust.

lol, my bad on the typo. But that would open a whole new can of worms.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: forgetful on March 29, 2026, 03:55:52 PM
On a separate front, Saudi Arabia has still not acknowledge the attack on the US base on their territory...why?

The idea of US troops/bases on Saudi soil is extremely unpopular, and the official state media of Saudi Arabia denies the fact that the US has a presence in Saudi Arabia, because of the risk of popular unrest, like occurred during the first Iraq war.

The US war has put Middle Eastern nations in a bind.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on March 29, 2026, 04:01:58 PM
Quote from: forgetful on March 29, 2026, 03:55:52 PMOn a separate front, Saudi Arabia has still not acknowledge the attack on the US base on their territory...why?

The idea of US troops/bases on Saudi soil is extremely unpopular, and the official state media of Saudi Arabia denies the fact that the US has a presence in Saudi Arabia, because of the risk of popular unrest, like occurred during the first Iraq war.

The US war has put Middle Eastern nations in a bind.

Shouldn't be a surprise, what with their crown prince and our clown jester all but publicly fornicating last year.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: jesmu84 on March 29, 2026, 04:29:13 PM
Why the US doesn't walk away from Israel is a mystery
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: The Sultan on March 29, 2026, 04:35:44 PM
Quote from: jesmu84 on March 29, 2026, 04:29:13 PMWhy the US doesn't walk away from Israel is a mystery


It's because of AIPAC. But I truly believe that the last couple of years have destroyed Israel's reputation to the point where $$ isn't going to matter and that relationship is going to increasingly become less important.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: The Sultan on March 29, 2026, 04:36:57 PM
Quote from: forgetful on March 29, 2026, 01:32:15 PMLegitimate fear. Israel targeted Russian/Iranian assets in the Caspian see a little while back. That impacted Russias key ability to trade with Iran.

The currently have a Russian owned tanker heading to Cuba to break the embargo.

If Trump/US seizes that tanker, further challenging Russias sphere of influence, I wouldn't be shocked to see Russia at least threaten an attack on Israel, especially if they continue actions in the Caspian Sea.

That would open a whole new can of worms.

They are letting this tanker get to Cuba. TACO gonna TACO.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on March 29, 2026, 04:59:14 PM
When you've lost Ann Coulter...

https://x.com/i/status/2038353158699667813
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on March 30, 2026, 10:49:37 AM
"The United States has spent EIGHT TRILLION DOLLARS fighting and policing in the Middle East. Thousands of our Great Soldiers have died or been badly wounded. Millions of people have died on the other side. GOING INTO THE MIDDLE EAST IS THE WORST DECISION EVER MADE..... "

- America's 45th president, Oct. 9, 2019

https://x.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1181905659568283648
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 30, 2026, 10:51:16 AM
Quote from: MU82 on March 30, 2026, 10:49:37 AM"The United States has spent EIGHT TRILLION DOLLARS fighting and policing in the Middle East. Thousands of our Great Soldiers have died or been badly wounded. Millions of people have died on the other side. GOING INTO THE MIDDLE EAST IS THE WORST DECISION EVER MADE..... "

- America's 45th president, Oct. 9, 2019

https://x.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1181905659568283648

Art of the Deal
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 30, 2026, 01:04:36 PM
https://theonion.com/trumps-war-on-iran-myth-vs-fact/
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on March 30, 2026, 01:20:00 PM
Quote from: jesmu84 on March 29, 2026, 04:29:13 PMWhy the US doesn't walk away from Israel is a mystery

Because they're still an important and strategically located friend to have in the Middle East.
The Netanyahu reign will end eventually - just like our national nightmare, knock on wood - and hopefully someone more moderate and less corrupt will replace him.


Quote from: Jockey on March 29, 2026, 03:04:50 PMOne country has already lost this war.

Hint: its leader is a genius.

Everyone is going to lose this stupid war.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on March 30, 2026, 03:45:03 PM
In a sane world, Congress would step in and remove a President that frequently hallucinates/makes up/lies about fictitious conversations, or at the very least take his war powers away. But here we are.

"Presented with a transcript of Trump's account, a spokesperson for Sharpie maker Newell Brands said it did not occur."

<snip>

He recently shared the details of a conversation with Maryland Gov. Wes Moore, for example, that did not occur in reality. That followed an incident in which he shared the details of a conversation with his late uncle, John Trump, about Ted Kaczynski, which also did not occur.

Trump once described a chat with "Tonight Show" host Jimmy Fallon that the president made up. He described a phone conversation with then-Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto that, in reality, never occurred. Around the same time, Trump went into great detail about a phone call he'd received from the head of Scouting America, which also hadn't happened.

Two weeks ago, the incumbent president said he'd spoken this month to one of his Democratic predecessors who lamented the fact that he hadn't launched a war against Iran during his term. Spokespeople for every living former president confirmed: There was no such chat."

Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on March 30, 2026, 04:11:28 PM
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on March 30, 2026, 03:45:03 PMIn a sane world, Congress would step in and remove a President that frequently hallucinates/makes up/lies about fictitious conversations, or at the very least take his war powers away. But here we are.

Honest question, because I'm really not sure ... is a President JD Vance any better? Especially when a 25th Amendment scenario gives him a potential advantage in 2028?
IMO, while Trump is dangerous in a crazy and incompetent kind of way, Vance is dangerous in an anti-democratic psychopath kind of way.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Scoop Snoop on March 30, 2026, 04:17:56 PM
Quote from: Jockey on March 29, 2026, 03:04:50 PMOne country has already lost this war.

Hint: its leader is a a very stable genius.

FIFY. You left out important words.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on March 30, 2026, 04:29:20 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on March 30, 2026, 04:11:28 PMHonest question, because I'm really not sure ... is a President JD Vance any better? Especially when a 25th Amendment scenario gives him a potential advantage in 2028?
IMO, while Trump is dangerous in a crazy and incompetent kind of way, Vance is dangerous in an anti-democratic psychopath kind of way.

Well, nobody can be "sure" about anything in the future until the future becomes the present.

I'd side with cutting out the cancer that is threatening to kill our constitutional republic today and dealing with the next cancer when we have to.

Also, there's the distinct possibility that having to carry out the role of president would expose JV as the dangerous douchenozzle he is.

As for taking over giving him an advantage in 2028 ... getting to finish out the corrupt Nixon's term didn't help Ford win either the electoral or popular vote in 1976.

This is a fun exercise and all, but successfully invoking the 25th Amendment simply isn't going to happen. The only way Capt. Bone Spur leaves before 1/20/29 is ... well ... you know.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 30, 2026, 05:30:26 PM
https://bsky.app/profile/carlquintanilla.bsky.social/post/3micndkiqlc2e

Chaser

https://bsky.app/profile/amanbatheja.bsky.social/post/3micj57nqxc2h

Shot

Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 30, 2026, 06:05:58 PM
Hegseth belongs in jail

https://bsky.app/profile/carlquintanilla.bsky.social/post/3micq3qfhms23
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on March 30, 2026, 06:47:27 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on March 30, 2026, 04:11:28 PMHonest question, because I'm really not sure ... is a President JD Vance any better? Especially when a 25th Amendment scenario gives him a potential advantage in 2028?
IMO, while Trump is dangerous in a crazy and incompetent kind of way, Vance is dangerous in an anti-democratic psychopath kind of way.

IMO, the criteria for removing a sitting President isn't whether his successor is better in a macro way. I fully agree with your characterization of the type of danger each presents; however, Trump is clearly and obviously mentally deranged. Allowing him to continue in power--virtually unchecked power thanks to a balls-less Republican Congress--is wildly dangerous.

There is the 25th Amendment way, which obviously never happen since Trump selected all talentless crotch sniffers for his 2nd term Cabinet, and then there is the impeachment and conviction way, which ol' turtle Mitch had in the palm of his hand and decided against, much to the detriment of the world. While not absolutely impossible, it is only slightly more likely than the 25th amendment route, which is to say not at all.

Which is why I prefaced my post "In a sane world"...
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on March 30, 2026, 07:07:43 PM
McConnell's farewell FU to American exceptionalism (if there ever has been such a thing).
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 31, 2026, 07:14:24 AM
https://bsky.app/profile/nycsouthpaw.bsky.social/post/3mie4hkttm22l
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 31, 2026, 07:19:22 AM
Good thread here about Gin Diesel killing more Iranian girls

https://bsky.app/profile/billmckibben.bsky.social/post/3mibunzkexk2a
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: The Sultan on March 31, 2026, 08:06:53 AM
I knew this would happen eventually. Declare victory and gaslight.

https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3mie5pwzvzj26
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 31, 2026, 08:16:13 AM
Quote from: The Sultan on March 31, 2026, 08:06:53 AMI knew this would happen eventually. Declare victory and gaslight.

https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3mie5pwzvzj26

When your base is mouth breathing idiots who believe Dear Leader can't do no wrong and is playing 4-D chess taking on the deep state and the illuminati, you can say anything.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Scoop Snoop on March 31, 2026, 08:22:43 AM
Quote from: The Sultan on March 31, 2026, 08:06:53 AMI knew this would happen eventually. Declare victory and gaslight.

https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3mie5pwzvzj26

"Trump Derangement Syndrome" is another example of gaslighting. Classic example of projection. I honesty never thought I would see enough Americans to not only buy into this enormous crock of sh!t of an administration but fail to see it for what it is and bail out.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 31, 2026, 08:27:47 AM
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on March 31, 2026, 08:22:43 AM"Trump Derangement Syndrome" is another example of gaslighting. Classic example of projection. I honesty never thought I would see enough Americans to not only buy into this enormous crock of sh!t of an administration but fail to see it for what it is and bail out.

A Cult of Personality can happen anywhere, don't let anyone tell you differently.

We like to think we're a smart society but we aren't.  We have access to all the information and education in the world but fight tooth and nail to remain purposefully ignorant because we know a smart society would never allow this to happen.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: tower912 on March 31, 2026, 08:45:03 AM
Trump derangement syndrome is manifest in the 33% who still support the convicted felon, accused pedophile, fascist war criminal. 
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on March 31, 2026, 09:44:00 AM
Quote from: tower912 on March 31, 2026, 08:45:03 AMTrump derangement syndrome is manifest in the 33% who still support the convicted felon, accused pedophile, fascist war criminal. 

Trump Derangement Syndrome is an affliction of the left, much like the right had Obama Derangement Syndrome - no matter what he did, they'd oppose it, even if it was something they agreed with (e.g., rescheduling of Marijuana by Trump). Trump Devotion Syndrome is more appropriate for the MAGA wing.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: The Sultan on March 31, 2026, 10:11:30 AM
https://x.com/phildstewart/status/2038993092020199697?s=20
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TallTitan34 on March 31, 2026, 12:49:43 PM
Quote from: The Sultan on March 31, 2026, 10:11:30 AMhttps://x.com/phildstewart/status/2038993092020199697?s=20

How many of those companies had their CEOs front and center at the inauguration?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TallTitan34 on March 31, 2026, 12:55:09 PM
https://x.com/nbcnews/status/2038954493597958618?s=46
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 31, 2026, 01:54:29 PM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on March 31, 2026, 12:55:09 PMhttps://x.com/nbcnews/status/2038954493597958618?s=46

Troop lovers, this administration
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on March 31, 2026, 02:00:03 PM
Stock market going way up on this "news" ...

https://seekingalpha.com/news/4570817-iran-ready-to-end-war-but-needs-guarantees--reports?

Iran's president, Masoud Pezeshkian, reportedly reiterated that the Middle Eastern country is ready to end the war but would need guarantees.

The country expects certain requirements to be met, "especially the essential guarantees to prevent the recurrence of aggression," Pezeshkian told the President of the EU Council, António Costa, in a call Monday, Bloomberg reported.

The statement comes after President Donald Trump said he was prepared to wind down the military campaign against the country within weeks.

The Wall Street Journal reported that Trump told aides he is willing to end hostilities on a four-to-six-week timeline, prioritizing the degradation of Iran's navy and missile stocks over the more complex mission of reopening the Strait of Hormuz.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: #UnleashThePortal on March 31, 2026, 02:03:37 PM
Quote from: MU82 on March 31, 2026, 02:00:03 PMStock market going way up on this "news" ...

https://seekingalpha.com/news/4570817-iran-ready-to-end-war-but-needs-guarantees--reports?

Iran's president, Masoud Pezeshkian, reportedly reiterated that the Middle Eastern country is ready to end the war but would need guarantees.

The country expects certain requirements to be met, "especially the essential guarantees to prevent the recurrence of aggression," Pezeshkian told the President of the EU Council, António Costa, in a call Monday, Bloomberg reported.

The statement comes after President Donald Trump said he was prepared to wind down the military campaign against the country within weeks.

The Wall Street Journal reported that Trump told aides he is willing to end hostilities on a four-to-six-week timeline, prioritizing the degradation of Iran's navy and missile stocks over the more complex mission of reopening the Strait of Hormuz.


Invasion easter weekend is the big rumor now.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: jesmu84 on March 31, 2026, 04:31:50 PM
Quote from: #UnleashThePortal on March 31, 2026, 02:03:37 PMInvasion easter weekend is the big rumor now.

Jfc.

Just leave.

Who or what is the benefit of this conflict?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: #UnleashThePortal on March 31, 2026, 05:50:39 PM
Quote from: jesmu84 on March 31, 2026, 04:31:50 PMJfc.

Just leave.

Who or what is the benefit of this conflict?

Not Americans! More specifically no americans who aren't insanely rich.

But those rich people? Their making bank in this war. Insider trading going huge.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 31, 2026, 05:52:31 PM
Quote from: jesmu84 on March 31, 2026, 04:31:50 PMJfc.

Just leave.

Who or what is the benefit of this conflict?

You and I benefit from it.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 31, 2026, 06:07:07 PM
The US:  Starts unnecessary war with Iran raising oil prices

EU/UK:  These oil prices suck!

The US:  Come secure your own damn oil!  We've done everything we can, no thanks to you!

Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 31, 2026, 06:11:30 PM
Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 31, 2026, 06:07:07 PMThe US:  Starts unnecessary war with Iran raising oil prices

EU/UK:  These oil prices suck!

The US:  Come secure your own damn oil!  We've done everything we can, no thanks to you!



It's just a few pennies. 

Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 31, 2026, 06:12:37 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 31, 2026, 06:11:30 PMIt's just a few pennies. 

They don't exist anymore.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 31, 2026, 06:13:25 PM
Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 31, 2026, 06:12:37 PMThey don't exist anymore.

It's just a few nickels.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: jesmu84 on March 31, 2026, 09:38:39 PM
https://apnews.com/article/kid-rock-nashville-helicopter-army-suspended-4c836ebc661bce8aa4e4d5ae5b98a246

unnatural carnal knowledgeing 🤡
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: tower912 on April 01, 2026, 06:20:19 AM
Like an old man with a smart TV, I broke it, you fix it, and if you don't, you are out of the will. 
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 01, 2026, 01:50:53 PM
Gangsterism

https://bsky.app/profile/katie0martin.ft.com/post/3mihcygw6pk24
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: cheebs09 on April 01, 2026, 01:58:09 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 01, 2026, 01:50:53 PMGangsterism

https://bsky.app/profile/katie0martin.ft.com/post/3mihcygw6pk24


Hmm, it's not like him to use aid to Ukraine as a bargaining chip.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Shaka Shart on April 01, 2026, 02:05:08 PM
Why does anyone have any reason to believe the word of the US anyway
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on April 01, 2026, 03:12:45 PM
this checks out for Philandering Pete Kegstand's DOW:

https://www.the-sun.com/news/16158981/stripper-trump-iran-invasion-plan-us-troops/

"Something I've noticed lately is all the military guys are coming in and they're spending all of their money," Daze says in the TikTok clip.

"It's sad. They're kind of depressed ... They're like, 'Oh yeah, we're gonna have fun, we're getting deployed next week'."
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TallTitan34 on April 01, 2026, 04:20:14 PM
https://x.com/unusual_whales/status/2039406688541851988?s=46
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: tower912 on April 01, 2026, 04:33:59 PM
No corruption at all.   I wonder if there were bets placed on Trump crashing the supreme court hearing.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on April 01, 2026, 04:36:46 PM
Quote from: tower912 on April 01, 2026, 04:33:59 PMNo corruption at all.   I wonder if there were bets placed on Trump crashing the supreme court hearing.

If I did this crap I'd bet even more on the owner of that "wallet" having the last name "Trump."
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 01, 2026, 05:22:14 PM
https://x.com/i/status/2039457766130192739

How is this guy a leader of a country? Lol.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 01, 2026, 06:01:12 PM
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on April 01, 2026, 05:22:14 PMhttps://x.com/i/status/2039457766130192739

How is this guy a leader of a country? Lol.

Everyone that voted for him and continues to support him should be mocked, vilified and ostracized.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on April 01, 2026, 06:56:50 PM
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on April 01, 2026, 05:22:14 PMhttps://x.com/i/status/2039457766130192739

How is this guy a leader of a country? Lol.

Sk he'll tell us thanks to him we have $4 gasoline, airfares have skyrocketed, beef prices are at an all time high, layoffs are increasing at a phenomenal rate, inflation is up, unemployment is up. All of that right?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on April 01, 2026, 07:22:01 PM
Just glad I'm not playing a drinking game in which I have to take a shot every time he tells a lie.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on April 01, 2026, 08:57:37 PM
Anyone know what happened around 8 pm?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HE3WAfcWEAAlo2K?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on April 01, 2026, 09:40:27 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on April 01, 2026, 08:57:37 PMAnyone know what happened around 8 pm?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HE3WAfcWEAAlo2K?format=jpg&name=large)

Cocaine Donnie and Dumbass Eric made a lot of money
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on April 01, 2026, 09:42:03 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 01, 2026, 06:01:12 PMEveryone that voted for him and continues to support him should be mocked, vilified and ostracized.

I've been doing that for a while.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: #UnleashThePortal on April 02, 2026, 10:55:29 AM
The orange ground hog has awoken from his twitter ramblings. Saw his shadow, therefore a few more weeks of war is upon us!

Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: The Sultan on April 02, 2026, 11:43:04 AM
This war keeps looking dumber and dumber.

https://bsky.app/profile/ryanlcooper.com/post/3mijf32f3bl2n
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TallTitan34 on April 02, 2026, 12:40:00 PM
Quote from: The Sultan on April 02, 2026, 11:43:04 AMThis war keeps looking dumber and dumber.

https://bsky.app/profile/ryanlcooper.com/post/3mijf32f3bl2n

Art of the deal.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 02, 2026, 12:48:27 PM
https://bsky.app/profile/nycsouthpaw.bsky.social/post/3mijqpf5fwk2t
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on April 02, 2026, 01:59:46 PM
but the Biden Crime Family and Hunter's painting!

https://x.com/Scaramucci/status/2039734807597572139
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: tower912 on April 02, 2026, 02:35:45 PM
Pam Bondi in the portal.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on April 02, 2026, 02:42:15 PM
Quote from: tower912 on April 02, 2026, 02:35:45 PMPam Bondi in the portal.

Bari is looking for a new legal correspondent.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on April 02, 2026, 02:48:05 PM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on April 02, 2026, 01:59:46 PMbut the Biden Crime Family and Hunter's painting!

https://x.com/Scaramucci/status/2039734807597572139

Nothing to see here.

Says every republican.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on April 02, 2026, 02:50:28 PM
Quote from: tower912 on April 02, 2026, 02:35:45 PMPam Bondi in the portal.

She better start ironing all of her orange jumpsuits.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: tower912 on April 02, 2026, 02:59:19 PM
Quote from: Jockey on April 02, 2026, 02:50:28 PMShe better start ironing all of her orange jumpsuits.
So, Syracuse?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TallTitan34 on April 02, 2026, 03:36:16 PM
Quote from: tower912 on April 02, 2026, 02:35:45 PMPam Bondi in the portal.

I'm sure Trump's personal lawyer will be fair and unbiased in his role as acting AG.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: tower912 on April 02, 2026, 03:42:38 PM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on April 02, 2026, 03:36:16 PMI'm sure Trump's personal lawyer will be fair and unbiased in his role as acting AG.

I am sure he won't do anything Cohn-troversial.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on April 02, 2026, 04:04:46 PM
Quote from: The Sultan on April 02, 2026, 11:43:04 AMThis war keeps looking dumber and dumber.

https://bsky.app/profile/ryanlcooper.com/post/3mijf32f3bl2n


All this winning has worn me out.  I need a nap.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: jesmu84 on April 02, 2026, 04:09:52 PM
Quote from: Jockey on April 02, 2026, 02:50:28 PMShe better start ironing all of her orange jumpsuits.

I'll bet any amount of money that not a single high ranking Trump admin official gets punished in any significant way at any point in the future.

The US has a long history of lack of accountability.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on April 02, 2026, 04:25:57 PM
Quote from: Jockey on April 02, 2026, 02:50:28 PMShe better start ironing all of her orange jumpsuits.

She's clearly incompetent and ethically vacuous, but I'm not sure what criminal charge they're going to get her on. Lying to Congress? Good luck.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on April 02, 2026, 04:35:19 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on April 02, 2026, 04:25:57 PMShe's clearly incompetent and ethically vacuous, but I'm not sure what criminal charge they're going to get her on. Lying to Congress? Good luck.

She clearly and openly violated the law - so can someone be criminally charged for that.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on April 02, 2026, 04:49:01 PM
Quote from: Jockey on April 02, 2026, 04:35:19 PMShe clearly and openly violated the law - so can someone be criminally charged for that.

Which law?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on April 02, 2026, 04:52:13 PM
Quote from: tower912 on April 02, 2026, 02:35:45 PMPam Bondi in the portal.

In less than a month, that's two inept dopes from the Worst Cabinet Ever Assembled to get the heave-ho. And if this war doesn't end the way Capt. Bone Spur wants, the Fox News weekend host pretending to be a tough guy probably will be next.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MUeng on April 02, 2026, 04:55:27 PM
Quote from: MU82 on April 02, 2026, 04:52:13 PMIn less than a month, that's two inept dopes from the Worst Cabinet Ever Assembled to get the heave-ho. And if this war doesn't end the way Capt. Bone Spur wants, the Fox News weekend host pretending to be a tough guy probably will be next.
as long as my steady stream of Colin Jost SNL sketches continue...
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: jesmu84 on April 02, 2026, 05:12:06 PM
Quote from: MU82 on April 02, 2026, 04:52:13 PMIn less than a month, that's two inept dopes from the Worst Cabinet Ever Assembled to get the heave-ho. And if this war doesn't end the way Capt. Bone Spur wants, the Fox News weekend host pretending to be a tough guy probably will be next.

Twitter rumors surround Kash and Tulsi
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: tower912 on April 02, 2026, 05:27:19 PM
Quote from: jesmu84 on April 02, 2026, 05:12:06 PMTwitter rumors surround Kash and Tulsi
Like Noem and Lewandoski (ewww) or like Bondi?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on April 02, 2026, 05:30:18 PM
https://x.com/BTnewsroom/status/2039738442368549294?s=20
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: tower912 on April 02, 2026, 05:31:45 PM
Sadly, you cannot make this stuff up.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: jesmu84 on April 02, 2026, 05:37:25 PM
Quote from: tower912 on April 02, 2026, 05:27:19 PMLike Noem and Lewandoski (ewww) or like Bondi?

Like Bondi
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 02, 2026, 06:20:17 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on April 02, 2026, 05:30:18 PMhttps://x.com/BTnewsroom/status/2039738442368549294?s=20

As always, best to remember these people were elected to punish people of color, the LBGQT community, science, education and cities in blue states.

As long as those things continue unabated, a few nickels out of your pocket book are tolerable.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on April 02, 2026, 07:08:29 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on April 02, 2026, 04:49:01 PMWhich law?

Obstruction of justice (for not releasing the Epstein files as required by law)?

I am not a lawyer, so shooting in the dark here.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: tower912 on April 02, 2026, 07:18:12 PM
Dow stopped being over 50,000

Stormy Daniels got a better severance package.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Scoop Snoop on April 02, 2026, 07:26:11 PM
Quote from: jesmu84 on April 02, 2026, 05:12:06 PMTwitter rumors surround Kash and Tulsi


Quote from: tower912 on April 02, 2026, 05:27:19 PMLike Noem and Lewandoski (ewww) or like Bondi?

I'm fine with them screwing each other. It briefly distracts them from screwing the entire country.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on April 02, 2026, 07:49:10 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on April 02, 2026, 04:49:01 PMWhich law?

Epstein Files Transparency Act.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on April 02, 2026, 08:47:29 PM
Remember, Pam Bondi was the backup choice to MATT GAETZ.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TallTitan34 on April 02, 2026, 08:49:42 PM
https://x.com/abc/status/2039817504390787240?s=46
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Shaka Shart on April 02, 2026, 08:56:16 PM
They will welcome us as liberators

https://bsky.app/profile/falrising.bsky.social/post/3mikcwsdd2c2i
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on April 02, 2026, 09:16:39 PM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on April 02, 2026, 08:47:29 PMRemember, Pam Bondi was the backup choice to MATT GAETZ.

One of the biggest upsets of this presidential term is that Gaetz didn't even get to the point where he'd be considered by the GOP-controlled Senate. Because those folks usually don't care how sexually depraved their candidates are.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: rocky_warrior on April 03, 2026, 12:06:07 AM
Quote from: MU82 on April 02, 2026, 04:52:13 PMthe Fox News weekend host pretending to be a tough guy probably will be next.

I'm gonna credit the Bondi auto-tune.  So here's one for Kegsbreath


Speaking of videos, have y'all seen the Iran Lego propaganda videos?  Not gonna post them, because, well, it's Iran regime propaganda.  But Lego Trump even has a bruised hand.  Lol.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 03, 2026, 05:56:23 AM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on April 02, 2026, 08:49:42 PMhttps://x.com/abc/status/2039817504390787240?s=46

He also fired the Army chaplain
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 03, 2026, 10:22:00 AM
Why is it the troop respecters always work against the troops?

https://bsky.app/profile/headquartersnews.bsky.social/post/3miji3ripqj2j
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TallTitan34 on April 03, 2026, 10:46:20 AM
F15 downed over Iran.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on April 03, 2026, 10:51:03 AM
Finally, the ACTUAL reason for attacking Iran is blabbed. He thought it would be a repeat of Venezuela--steal their oil, set up offshore account to sell it, and grift billions with no accountability.

(https://images2.imgbox.com/39/f3/v6ny2pZs_o.png) (https://imgbox.com/v6ny2pZs)

The world looks on in horror, while MAGA picks their noses.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Scoop Snoop on April 03, 2026, 11:25:09 AM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on April 03, 2026, 10:46:20 AMF15 downed over Iran.

This justifies nuking them.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on April 03, 2026, 11:59:44 AM
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on April 03, 2026, 10:51:03 AMFinally, the ACTUAL reason for attacking Iran is blabbed. He thought it would be a repeat of Venezuela--steal their oil, set up offshore account to sell it, and grift billions with no accountability.

(https://images2.imgbox.com/39/f3/v6ny2pZs_o.png) (http://"https://imgbox.com/v6ny2pZs")

The world looks on in horror, while MAGA picks their noses.

Grifting is ALWAYS the 1st option for any trump policy.

ALWAYS.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Scoop Snoop on April 03, 2026, 12:02:49 PM
Quote from: Jockey on April 03, 2026, 11:59:44 AMGrifting is ALWAYS the 1st option for any trump policy.

ALWAYS.

True. But let's not forget Scoop's very own Muggsy repeatedly posted that we should seize the oil fields. He was ahead of the Big Kahuna on this.

Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: jesmu84 on April 03, 2026, 12:05:54 PM
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on April 03, 2026, 11:25:09 AMThis justifies nuking them.

Doubtful

But this will 100% justify ground invasion.

I also love that Israel has said they will commit no troops to a ground force.

Israel is committed to fighting this war to the last US soldier and/or last US taxpayer dollar
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: jesmu84 on April 03, 2026, 12:06:57 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 03, 2026, 05:56:23 AMHe also fired the Army chaplain

https://x.com/i/status/2039950018526753097
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on April 03, 2026, 12:40:46 PM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on April 03, 2026, 10:46:20 AMF15 downed over Iran.

A wise man once said that pilots who get shot down are losers.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 03, 2026, 01:05:59 PM
Tough break for Catholics

https://bsky.app/profile/jbendery.bsky.social/post/3mim7btui422c
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on April 03, 2026, 01:33:25 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 03, 2026, 01:05:59 PMTough break for Catholics

https://bsky.app/profile/jbendery.bsky.social/post/3mim7btui422c

Probably not related.

Archbishop Timothy Broglio, the head of the Archdiocese for the Military Services, rebuked Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth for invoking Jesus Christ's name while discussing the war in Iran.

Broglio joined CBS News' Ed O'Keefe for a Face the Nation interview that is set to air in full on Easter Sunday, and he got candid about his feelings on the war. He also offered counsel to soldiers currently serving, advising them to "do as little harm as you can."

Asked if the war is "justified," Broglio argued it is not.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/military-archbishop-condemns-iran-war-164807147.html
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on April 03, 2026, 01:34:25 PM
Quote from: jesmu84 on April 03, 2026, 12:06:57 PMhttps://x.com/i/status/2039950018526753097

Firing them until he gets down to the ones that will execute illegal orders/war crimes. More war crimes, I should say.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on April 03, 2026, 01:48:55 PM
Quote from: jesmu84 on April 03, 2026, 12:05:54 PMDoubtful

But this will 100% justify ground invasion.

I also love that Israel has said they will commit no troops to a ground force.

Israel is committed to fighting this war to the last US soldier and/or last US taxpayer dollar

Relating back to the golfing thread, Israel is in the same boat as Tiger, as far as I am concerned. Used to be a big fan - now I don't care what happens to either of them.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MUBurrow on April 03, 2026, 01:50:45 PM
Not sure how we on the left came out after Romney's presidential candidacy re whether its kosher to bring up politicians' religious affiliations - but Hegseth believes some real kooky crap.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on April 03, 2026, 02:04:27 PM
Quote from: MUBurrow on April 03, 2026, 01:50:45 PMNot sure how we on the left came out after Romney's presidential candidacy re whether its kosher to bring up politicians' religious affiliations - but Hegseth believes some real kooky crap.

You would think he'd be a fan of catholics, what with the whole rapey thing.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: tower912 on April 03, 2026, 02:14:35 PM
There will be some fascinating discussions with St. Peter at the pearly gates.

And, claiming the Pope doesn't understand the doctrine of a just war.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Scoop Snoop on April 03, 2026, 02:33:58 PM
Quote from: jesmu84 on April 03, 2026, 12:05:54 PMDoubtful

But this will 100% justify ground invasion.

I also love that Israel has said they will commit no troops to a ground force.

Israel is committed to fighting this war to the last US soldier and/or last US taxpayer dollar

Teal on the nuking comment of course.

After that-- THIS from the author of The Art of the Deal. ::)
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: forgetful on April 03, 2026, 03:18:11 PM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on April 03, 2026, 10:46:20 AMF15 downed over Iran.

And an A10-warthog over the strait of Hormuz.

Except Foxnews is reporting that a source says that Iran did not shoot it down, rather it "took enemy fire" and then crashed.

Not sure how that amounts to not shot down.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 03, 2026, 03:50:58 PM
https://bsky.app/profile/theonion.com/post/3mimfqzjmzg2z
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: forgetful on April 03, 2026, 03:55:41 PM
A potential problem for the US. Apparently, our own intelligence says that Iran is rapidly repairing their missile silos, returning them to action within a day.

Why this is a problem? We are running out of interceptors (timeline likely aligns with the 2-3 weeks Trump mentioned for "being done"). The idea was we could destroy their missile capability before we ran out of interceptors. That may very likely be incredibly wrong given that they are apparently able to rebuild faster than we thought.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on April 03, 2026, 04:15:27 PM
Quote from: MUBurrow on April 03, 2026, 01:50:45 PMNot sure how we on the left came out after Romney's presidential candidacy re whether its kosher to bring up politicians' religious affiliations - but Hegseth believes some real kooky crap.

Douchenozzle, incompetent and religious wack-job.

He's the Holy Trinity.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 03, 2026, 04:18:07 PM
Quote from: forgetful on April 03, 2026, 03:55:41 PMA potential problem for the US. Apparently, our own intelligence says that Iran is rapidly repairing their missile silos, returning them to action within a day.

Why this is a problem? We are running out of interceptors (timeline likely aligns with the 2-3 weeks Trump mentioned for "being done"). The idea was we could destroy their missile capability before we ran out of interceptors. That may very likely be incredibly wrong given that they are apparently able to rebuild faster than we thought.

Weird.  We weeded out the deep state and DEI hires to fortify our intelligence. 
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on April 03, 2026, 04:47:29 PM
I just hope any captured pilots can take comfort in knowing their secretary of war believes in no quarter for the enemy.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: tower912 on April 03, 2026, 04:51:54 PM
And that the president is only interested in pilots that weren't shot down.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: #UnleashThePortal on April 03, 2026, 04:52:07 PM
Quote from: jesmu84 on April 03, 2026, 12:06:57 PMhttps://x.com/i/status/2039950018526753097

They are absolutely planning a ground invasion, these 12 generals told them it was an idiotic plan so they fired them.


My money is on this weekend.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: pbiflyer on April 03, 2026, 05:32:51 PM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on April 03, 2026, 10:46:20 AMF15 downed over Iran.
And an A-10. Wonder if it's anyone we know?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: rocky_warrior on April 03, 2026, 07:24:49 PM
Quote from: pbiflyer on April 03, 2026, 05:32:51 PMAnd an A-10. Wonder if it's anyone we know?

He's been too old to fly for a few decades.  But might be eligible for new admission!

Never before in the history of this country have so many *actual* patriots been dismissed.  Sad times.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: rocky_warrior on April 03, 2026, 07:44:03 PM
Quote from: forgetful on April 03, 2026, 03:55:41 PMA potential problem for the US. Apparently, our own intelligence says that Iran is rapidly repairing their missile silos, returning them to action within a day.

Why this is a problem? We are running out of interceptors (timeline likely aligns with the 2-3 weeks Trump mentioned for "being done"). The idea was we could destroy their missile capability before we ran out of interceptors. That may very likely be incredibly wrong given that they are apparently able to rebuild faster than we thought.

Gift link
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/03/us/politics/iran-missiles-launchers.html?unlocked_article_code=1.YVA.x07e.etjs_2rXqpV_&smid=url-share
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: rocky_warrior on April 03, 2026, 08:21:46 PM
Quote from: forgetful on April 03, 2026, 03:18:11 PMAnd an A10-warthog over the strait of Hormuz.

"TOTAL AIR SUPREMACY"

(in my best old man typeface)
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on April 03, 2026, 08:53:52 PM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on April 02, 2026, 08:49:42 PMhttps://x.com/abc/status/2039817504390787240?s=46

The supposed reason is because the general refused to pull 2 women and 2 African Americans from the promotions list.  Kegstand didn't like that.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: rocky_warrior on April 03, 2026, 10:36:13 PM
QuoteThe officials said the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps had closed off an area in southwestern Kohgiluyeh and Boyer-Ahmad Province, where they believed the F-15E Strike Eagle went down.

During American rescue efforts, a U.S. UH-60 Black Hawk helicopter was hit by ground fire but managed to escaped safely, U.S. and Israeli officials said.

!!!!

Just an excursion.  Definitely not an impeachable war!
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Mutaman on April 03, 2026, 10:50:24 PM

Quote from: forgetful on April 03, 2026, 03:18:11 PMAnd an A10-warthog

You have just triggered a lot of bad memories of that psychopath who used to post here.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: rocky_warrior on April 03, 2026, 10:57:03 PM
Quote from: Mutaman on April 03, 2026, 10:50:24 PMYou have just triggered a lot of bad memories of that psychopath who used to post here.

Frankly, that guy was like milk toast compared to...oh nevermind.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Mutaman on April 03, 2026, 11:04:52 PM
Quote from: rocky_warrior on April 03, 2026, 10:57:03 PMFrankly, that guy was like milk toast compared to...oh nevermind.

" Death from Above"
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: rocky_warrior on April 03, 2026, 11:15:11 PM
Quote from: Mutaman on April 03, 2026, 11:04:52 PM"Death from Above"

Many wish they were that tough.  Few accomplish.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on April 04, 2026, 11:25:27 AM
Quote from: rocky_warrior on April 03, 2026, 11:15:11 PMMany wish they were that tough.  Few accomplish.

Disagree. There were at least 7-10 login IDs that were identically tough, maybe more.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on April 04, 2026, 12:32:51 PM
https://snyder.substack.com/p/the-next-coup-attempt

Scenario 5 is the one that I think would be most difficult to stop. Synder says it should be fairly easy, but I think he overlooks the fact that our media, still, for some reason, takes Trump's statements as fact by default. If Trump says foreign or domestic enemies are to blame, the media will run with that.

Also, Synder overlooks the fact that Trump has spent the last 14 months intentionally dismantling our counter-terrorism operations, making it all that much easier for an event to occur-- or a false flag operation to be detected.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: WellsstreetWanderer on April 04, 2026, 08:17:45 PM
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on April 04, 2026, 12:32:51 PMhttps://snyder.substack.com/p/the-next-coup-attempt

Scenario 5 is the one that I think would be most difficult to stop. Synder says it should be fairly easy, but I think he overlooks the fact that our media, still, for some reason, takes Trump's statements as fact by default. If Trump says foreign or domestic enemies are to blame, the media will run with
Watch  CBS,ABC and rethink that
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on April 05, 2026, 11:22:59 AM
Happy Easter, everyone. Christians are back in charge of America:

https://metro.co.uk/2026/04/05/trump-drops-f-bomb-says-praise-allah-wildest-social-media-post-yet-27862527/

Donald Trump has warned the 'crazy b******s' in Iran to open up the Strait of Hormuz in a foul-mouthed social media post on Easter Sunday.

The US President posted on Truth Social: 'Tuesday will be Power Plant Day, and Bridge Day, all wrapped up in one, in Iran.

'There will be nothing like it!!! Open the F*****' Strait, you crazy b******s, or you'll be living in Hell – JUST WATCH! Praise be to Allah. President DONALD J. TRUMP'.


Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Shaka Shart on April 05, 2026, 11:33:53 AM
That sounds like someone else got his phone
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on April 05, 2026, 11:35:10 AM
So it's not opening naturally?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Shaka Shart on April 05, 2026, 11:37:05 AM
Quote from: Pakuni on April 05, 2026, 11:35:10 AMSo it's not opening naturally?

No, this isn't a Pickleball tournament after party
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Scoop Snoop on April 05, 2026, 11:43:50 AM
He's just a little upset that things have not gone his way. I was going to say, "as planned", but there wasn't any planning. Very stable geniuses do not need to plan. They just "know things" that the rest of us do not know.


Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: forgetful on April 05, 2026, 12:35:25 PM
Quote from: Shaka Shart on April 05, 2026, 11:33:53 AMThat sounds like someone else got his phone

That one actually sounds like him. He's nuts...and that is a kind way of saying it.

He's pissed because Bibi told him they could drop a few bombs on Iran over a weekend, and the people would overthrow the government and celebrate them as heroes.

And now he's scrambling, and delusional. Irrational outbursts of anger are one of the strongest signs of cognitive decline and dementia.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: forgetful on April 05, 2026, 02:47:12 PM
Glad we were able to rescue the other downed airman, but what happened to lead to at least two additional destroyed aircraft that will cost over $250m to replace?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on April 05, 2026, 03:14:15 PM
Quote from: forgetful on April 05, 2026, 02:47:12 PMGlad we were able to rescue the other downed airman, but what happened to lead to at least two additional destroyed aircraft that will cost over $250m to replace?

The day before Iran shot down that plane, Kegger said Iran had zero ability to counter American bombing efforts.

And yes, thank goodness more U.S. soldiers didn't die in Capt. Bone Spur's ill-conceived and unnecessary Middle East sh!t-show.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Scoop Snoop on April 05, 2026, 04:17:27 PM
Quote from: MU82 on April 05, 2026, 03:14:15 PMThe day before Iran shot down that plane, Kegger said Iran had zero ability to counter American bombing efforts. No big deal. We got lots more.

And yes, thank goodness more U.S. soldiers didn't die in Capt. Bone Spur's ill-conceived and unnecessary Middle East sh!t-show. Not so far, but there will be more opportunities. And if some are captured? He doesn't like guys who get captured. They're not war heroes.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 05, 2026, 04:35:20 PM
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on April 04, 2026, 08:17:45 PMWatch  CBS,ABC and rethink that

Anyone that continues to defend this administration, media or not, is in a cult
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: rocky_warrior on April 05, 2026, 05:13:27 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 05, 2026, 04:35:20 PMAnyone that continues to defend this administration, media or not, is in a cult

Mental declined.  Yes, past tense.

Cease fire is the easiest ever.  We (and Israel) stop firing missiles, and they will too!
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Shaka Shart on April 05, 2026, 07:22:46 PM
Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on April 03, 2026, 08:53:52 PMThe supposed reason is because the general refused to pull 2 women and 2 African Americans from the promotions list.  Kegstand didn't like that.

Like Marquette, the armed forces are in need of traditionals
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Shaka Shart on April 05, 2026, 07:24:07 PM
Quote from: rocky_warrior on April 05, 2026, 05:13:27 PMMental declined.  Yes, past tense.

Cease fire is the easiest ever.  We (and Israel) stop firing missiles, and they will too!

That would be admitting defeat. And stop hastening the rapture
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: #UnleashThePortal on April 05, 2026, 09:47:05 PM
Quote from: Shaka Shart on April 05, 2026, 11:33:53 AMThat sounds like someone else got his phone

Nah, this is very much trump without any of the filters they normally have on his speech and text.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: rocky_warrior on April 05, 2026, 10:59:22 PM
Quote from: #UnleashThePortal on April 05, 2026, 09:47:05 PMNah, this is very much trump without any of the filters they normally have on his speech and text.

But it's possible he's dead...
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Shaka Shart on April 05, 2026, 11:19:25 PM
Quote from: rocky_warrior on April 05, 2026, 10:59:22 PMBut it's possible he's dead...

It is going to be the single biggest and most consequential shi* posting and virtue signaling day ever online and there's not anything else that will come remotely close
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on April 06, 2026, 07:32:28 AM
Quote from: rocky_warrior on April 05, 2026, 10:59:22 PMBut it's possible he's dead...

That sort of optimism on a Monday is very welcome
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on April 06, 2026, 07:56:26 AM
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on April 04, 2026, 12:32:51 PMhttps://snyder.substack.com/p/the-next-coup-attempt

Scenario 5 is the one that I think would be most difficult to stop. Synder says it should be fairly easy, but I think he overlooks the fact that our media, still, for some reason, takes Trump's statements as fact by default. If Trump says foreign or domestic enemies are to blame, the media will run with that.

Also, Synder overlooks the fact that Trump has spent the last 14 months intentionally dismantling our counter-terrorism operations, making it all that much easier for an event to occur-- or a false flag operation to be detected.

The Republicans love Orban and see him as a template...

(https://images2.imgbox.com/2d/4d/rVPm63ZC_o.png) (https://imgbox.com/rVPm63ZC)
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 06, 2026, 08:15:16 AM
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on April 06, 2026, 07:56:26 AMThe Republicans love Orban and see him as a template...

(https://images2.imgbox.com/2d/4d/rVPm63ZC_o.png) (https://imgbox.com/rVPm63ZC)

Bingo
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on April 06, 2026, 10:18:10 AM
Quote from: rocky_warrior on April 05, 2026, 10:59:22 PMBut it's possible he's dead...

You had me at 'dead'.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on April 06, 2026, 10:56:25 AM
Clown show.

https://x.com/Acyn/status/2041174948274942068?s=20
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on April 06, 2026, 11:36:49 AM
Quote from: Pakuni on April 06, 2026, 10:56:25 AMClown show.

https://x.com/Acyn/status/2041174948274942068?s=20

A 2nd grader's understanding of geopolitics and the emotional depth as well.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 06, 2026, 11:54:08 AM
https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3mitlsgmd2c2z

Man, ain't that the truth
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on April 06, 2026, 12:11:29 PM
Asked if Melania Trump had anything to say about the children in Iran, the camera awkwardly panned to the left where she claimed we're at war for the kids themselves.

"All of this is happening for their future," Melania said, standing next to an expressionless Easter bunny. "They will be safe in the years to come."


You have to murder kids to save them.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 06, 2026, 02:30:55 PM
Imagine thinking this is the guy you back to handle international relations and Iran.

You're just not a very smart person if you believe that.

https://bsky.app/profile/thebulwark.com/post/3mitxyqaxdt2n
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on April 06, 2026, 03:27:56 PM
As Bugs used to say: What a maroon.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: forgetful on April 06, 2026, 11:05:53 PM
Saw this today and it made me laugh.

The difference between the Iran War and the Vietnam War, Trump had a plan to get out of the Vietnam War.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 07, 2026, 07:44:57 AM
This is your President.

https://bsky.app/profile/marisakabas.bsky.social/post/3mivqwquejk2j

We are about to commit war crimes and atrocities.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: tower912 on April 07, 2026, 07:50:35 AM
He already has.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TallTitan34 on April 07, 2026, 09:38:02 AM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 07, 2026, 07:44:57 AMThis is your President.

https://bsky.app/profile/marisakabas.bsky.social/post/3mivqwquejk2j

We are about to commit war crimes and atrocities.

I'll guess 75% chance he TACOs and announces some deal Iran will say never happened.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on April 07, 2026, 09:47:30 AM
Capt. Bone Spur sounds like a cartoon madman.

This was quite a paragraph from the NYT:

Some Iranians were bracing for the possibility of more strikes, while others were responding to the American threats with a mix of indifference, defiance, and bewilderment. "I think Trump is under a lot of pressure and that he has lost his mind," said Lili, a Tehran resident who asked not to use her full name out of concern for repercussions for speaking to foreign media. She and her family were not planning to flee the city, she added, because there was nowhere to go.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MUBurrow on April 07, 2026, 09:54:55 AM
"A whole civilization will die tonight" is a great natural end point for the Wint "I'm not owned" tweet. 
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on April 07, 2026, 10:07:15 AM
M-A-D-M-A-N !!!

Needs to be stopped now.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on April 07, 2026, 10:32:08 AM
Quote from: Jockey on April 07, 2026, 10:07:15 AMM-A-D-M-A-N !!!

Needs to be stopped now.

don't worry, our Secretary of War is on it

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTLmK8JL41CnmP3aDHeCHf35WZcoriKNa6ZlQ&s)
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: tower912 on April 07, 2026, 10:48:08 AM
James Bond villain.  Actually, more Austin Powers, but same carpool.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on April 07, 2026, 11:15:15 AM
Quote from: tower912 on April 07, 2026, 10:48:08 AMJames Bond villain.  Actually, more Austin Powers, but same carpool.

Actually, more like Bugs Bunny villain.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: tower912 on April 07, 2026, 11:20:23 AM
Stephen Miller is Mr. Bigglesworth.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on April 07, 2026, 11:40:14 AM
It's just another reality TV show to Capt. Bone Spur.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jay Bee on April 07, 2026, 12:00:51 PM
7pm CT, baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 07, 2026, 12:04:46 PM
https://x.com/i/status/2041534819037753468

Somehow a second time leader of what is supposed to be the greatest country in the World.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on April 07, 2026, 12:05:02 PM
Quote from: Jay Bee on April 07, 2026, 12:00:51 PM7pm CT, baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(https://i.giphy.com/11VBHqO3QI7qQU.webp)
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on April 07, 2026, 12:19:08 PM
JB's hero, Capt. Bone Spur, isn't the only lunatic who should be in a rubber room instead of the White House.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/06/us/politics/hegseth-religious-tone.html?

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth on Monday likened the rescue on Easter Sunday of a missing American airman shot down over Iran to the Resurrection of Jesus Christ.

Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on April 07, 2026, 12:21:04 PM
Quote from: Jay Bee on April 07, 2026, 12:00:51 PM7pm CT, baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JB cheering for genocide. I'm shocked.

In reality, it'll hopefully be just one more TACO moment.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: jficke13 on April 07, 2026, 12:33:28 PM
Quote from: Jockey on April 07, 2026, 12:21:04 PMJB cheering for genocide. I'm shocked.

In reality, it'll hopefully be just one more TACO moment.

Stancil has it pegged:

Will Stancil‬
 ‪@whstancil.bsky.social‬
· 6m
also what will most likely happen is that trump, who is not capable carrying out his threats, will change the deadline he made up, citing diplomatic progress he also made up, and then it will be breathlessly reported as high-stakes diplomacy rather than the moron president thrashing around
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 07, 2026, 12:40:26 PM
Quote from: jficke13 on April 07, 2026, 12:33:28 PMStancil has it pegged:

Will Stancil‬
 ‪@whstancil.bsky.social‬
· 6m
also what will most likely happen is that trump, who is not capable carrying out his threats, will change the deadline he made up, citing diplomatic progress he also made up, and then it will be breathlessly reported as high-stakes diplomacy rather than the moron president thrashing around

Maybe.  He also likes the idea of killing brown people.  That's why a lot of Americans support him.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TallTitan34 on April 07, 2026, 12:51:34 PM
But I thought we already won the war and obliterated their military?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on April 07, 2026, 01:02:12 PM
Epstein.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Scoop Snoop on April 07, 2026, 01:22:43 PM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on April 07, 2026, 12:51:34 PMBut I thought we already won the war and obliterated their military?

We did. But now we need to obliterate their entire civilization. The job is not finished yet.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: tower912 on April 07, 2026, 01:53:02 PM
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on April 07, 2026, 01:22:43 PM[/i]. But now we need to obliterate their entire civilization.


I think he confused civilization with constitution.  A common mistake.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on April 07, 2026, 02:36:36 PM
Looks like JD's been leaking.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: The Sultan on April 07, 2026, 02:40:58 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on April 07, 2026, 02:36:36 PMLooks like JD's been leaking.

Yep. First thing I thought too.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on April 07, 2026, 03:21:05 PM
Voice of reason:

"Trump, with this Iran war and the energy crisis and the PR disaster, I mean, the North Korean dictator doesn't talk like this. He talks like a super-villain from a Marvel comic. I've backed Trump ... but it's too dangerous, it's too existential."

- Alex Jones
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on April 07, 2026, 03:26:20 PM
Pope Woke I at it again

https://x.com/ChristopherHale/status/2041586928055681531?s=20
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 07, 2026, 03:28:23 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on April 07, 2026, 03:26:20 PMPope Woke I at it again

https://x.com/ChristopherHale/status/2041586928055681531?s=20

Matter of time before we name our own pope
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: tower912 on April 07, 2026, 03:39:39 PM
Pope says 'war bad'.  Sub humans crap themselves.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: jesmu84 on April 07, 2026, 03:46:10 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on April 07, 2026, 02:36:36 PMLooks like JD's been leaking.

?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 07, 2026, 03:46:56 PM
Quote from: tower912 on April 07, 2026, 03:39:39 PMPope says 'war bad'.  Sub humans crap themselves.

In their defense, Catholics haven't covered themselves in glory the last 2000 years
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: rocky_warrior on April 07, 2026, 03:53:05 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on April 07, 2026, 02:36:36 PMLooks like JD's been leaking.

Depends.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on April 07, 2026, 03:57:16 PM
Quote from: jesmu84 on April 07, 2026, 03:46:10 PM?

Vice President Vance opposed President Trump authorizing full-scale strikes against Iran, according to a Tuesday report in The New York Times.
New reporting by Jonathan Swan and Maggie Haberman for their forthcoming book "Regime Change: Inside the Imperial Presidency of Donald Trump" details how Vance expressed skepticism about the U.S. joining Israel in launching a regime-change war against Iran.



https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5820244-vance-warns-iran-war-chaos/
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 07, 2026, 04:03:20 PM
https://bsky.app/profile/acyn.bsky.social/post/3miwaxr4u7c26
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TallTitan34 on April 07, 2026, 04:05:43 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on April 07, 2026, 03:57:16 PMVice President Vance opposed President Trump authorizing full-scale strikes against Iran, according to a Tuesday report in The New York Times.
New reporting by Jonathan Swan and Maggie Haberman for their forthcoming book "Regime Change: Inside the Imperial Presidency of Donald Trump" details how Vance expressed skepticism about the U.S. joining Israel in launching a regime-change war against Iran.



https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5820244-vance-warns-iran-war-chaos/

https://x.com/americafirstcon/status/2041578062073217394?s=46
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: tower912 on April 07, 2026, 04:12:14 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on April 07, 2026, 02:36:36 PMLooks like JD's been leaking.
I think they have shots for that.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on April 07, 2026, 04:32:06 PM
Meh. They're all complicit. They've been supporting their dictator throughout, lying for him, putting America in harm's way for him.

Vance knew 10 years ago that this lunatic was "America's Hitler." Knew it. Said it out loud. But he sold his soul for power, and now he's every bit as dangerous, maybe even moreso.

And Rubio ... what a disappointment. He actually stood up to the Mad King ... for a while. Until he, too, went for the easy road to power. What a kitten.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on April 07, 2026, 04:48:45 PM
Quote from: tower912 on April 07, 2026, 04:12:14 PMI think they have shots for that.

My question would be "why is netanyahu in the Situation Room at all".
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on April 07, 2026, 04:53:04 PM
Quote from: Jockey on April 07, 2026, 04:48:45 PMMy question would be "why is netanyahu in the Situation Room at all".

he is the governor of our 51st state
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: tower912 on April 07, 2026, 04:57:45 PM
Puppetmaster.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on April 07, 2026, 05:00:49 PM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on April 07, 2026, 04:53:04 PMhe is the governor of our 51st state

Canada?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 07, 2026, 05:44:04 PM
It's Taco Tuesday
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: tower912 on April 07, 2026, 05:52:02 PM
Thankfully.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on April 07, 2026, 05:58:37 PM
Capt. Bone Spur claims the Strait will be open as a condition of the ceasefire negotiated by Pakistan.

We don't know yet if it's true.

We also don't know if Israel will comply; even after its ceasefire with Gaza, they were still bombing there.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on April 07, 2026, 06:05:17 PM
TACO Tuesday

Edit: D'oh. Unk beat me to it.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: #UnleashThePortal on April 07, 2026, 06:26:18 PM
Taco Tuesday? It's not even 8pm.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: #UnleashThePortal on April 07, 2026, 06:28:52 PM
So trumps absolutely going to brag about this as a win right? Just going back to the status quo?

Dude had a temper tantrum and his parents let him continue till he tuckered himself out.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 07, 2026, 06:45:12 PM
Has anyone seen this verified anywhere?  Because, if so, LMAO

https://bsky.app/profile/fintwitter.bsky.social/post/3miwwt4rtuf2y

This, too

https://bsky.app/profile/fintwitter.bsky.social/post/3miwvthtq6327

WSJ published the list and these were included.  Art of the Deal on display!
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 07, 2026, 07:12:51 PM
Whoo, boy!  Art of the Deal

https://bsky.app/profile/carlquintanilla.bsky.social/post/3miwx7phdvk23
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on April 07, 2026, 07:39:48 PM
Six weeks ago, the Strait of Hormuz was open. Then came Capt. Bone Spur's unnecessary war.

Six weeks later, 13 U.S. soldiers are dead, hundreds more are wounded, tens of billions of dollars have been added to the ginormous deficit, hundreds of Iranian schoolkids are dead at the hands of U.S. missiles, thousands of innocent Iranians are dead, hundreds of Israelis are dead, the price of gas has spiked, mortgage rates are up, Iran still has its uranium safely tucked away. And Bone Spur's approval rating is at an all-time low because the vast majority of Americans hate his war.

But the Strait might or might not get opened again.

So ... um ... success?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: jesmu84 on April 07, 2026, 08:27:00 PM
https://x.com/i/status/2041677357866783161
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: jesmu84 on April 07, 2026, 08:29:24 PM
https://x.com/i/status/2041663100978655708
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on April 07, 2026, 08:32:33 PM
Quote from: #UnleashThePortal on April 07, 2026, 06:28:52 PMSo trumps absolutely going to brag about this as a win right? Just going back to the status quo?

It's his SOP. Break something out of stupidity and ignorance, partially repair it, and claim total and absolute success like no one has ever seen.

And the media will more or less report it without any critical thought.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: WellsstreetWanderer on April 07, 2026, 11:13:03 PM
Chuckles from the armchair generals and diplomats here. I absolutely want to see this regime destroyed. I have a very good friend who twice served as Chief of Trauma Services in Afghanistan and he would come back after deployment and describe the horrifying injuries to our troops caused by Iranian ieds. Plus I have an image I cannot shake ever of a young Marine leaving the airport here wearing his dress blues and being wheeled by his father into a van. To me he looked no more than 20 years old and he missing both his arms and legs. I'm sorry if I put a damper on your amusement of this ongoing altercation but these religious zealots must be dealt with
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: forgetful on April 07, 2026, 11:29:25 PM
The 10-point plan that apparently we now agree with as a reasonable plan sounds more like an unconditional surrender by the US.

Another question. In the 2-week cease-fire. Over under odds of China shipping in the supersonic anti-ship missiles to Iran during the ceasefire?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on April 08, 2026, 12:47:55 AM
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on April 07, 2026, 11:13:03 PMthese religious zealots must be dealt with

Agree. But what are we to do about dangerous religious right-wingnuts like Pete Hegseth and Mike Johnson to keep them from destroying America?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: The Sultan on April 08, 2026, 04:21:19 AM
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on April 07, 2026, 11:13:03 PMChuckles from the armchair generals and diplomats here. I absolutely want to see this regime destroyed. I have a very good friend who twice served as Chief of Trauma Services in Afghanistan and he would come back after deployment and describe the horrifying injuries to our troops caused by Iranian ieds. Plus I have an image I cannot shake ever of a young Marine leaving the airport here wearing his dress blues and being wheeled by his father into a van. To me he looked no more than 20 years old and he missing both his arms and legs. I'm sorry if I put a damper on your amusement of this ongoing altercation but these religious zealots must be dealt with

So we gave them what they asked for after not accomplishing any of our objectives?

We lost. Plain and simple. We are in a worse position than we were before this started.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on April 08, 2026, 07:35:32 AM
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on April 07, 2026, 11:13:03 PMChuckles from the armchair generals and diplomats here. I absolutely want to see this regime destroyed. I have a very good friend who twice served as Chief of Trauma Services in Afghanistan and he would come back after deployment and describe the horrifying injuries to our troops caused by Iranian ieds. Plus I have an image I cannot shake ever of a young Marine leaving the airport here wearing his dress blues and being wheeled by his father into a van. To me he looked no more than 20 years old and he missing both his arms and legs. I'm sorry if I put a damper on your amusement of this ongoing altercation but these religious zealots must be dealt with

Horrible things happened when we sent American soldiers to fight religious zealots on the other side of the world.
To correct this, we must send American soldiers to fight religious zealots on the other side of the world.
#MAGAlogic
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: tower912 on April 08, 2026, 07:51:06 AM
I'm hearing that crazy old men sending heroic young men to be killed or maimed is tragic and your heart goes out to those suffering for this evil insanity.   

I agree with that.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: The Sultan on April 08, 2026, 08:15:37 AM
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on April 07, 2026, 11:13:03 PMChuckles from the armchair generals and diplomats here. I absolutely want to see this regime destroyed. I have a very good friend who twice served as Chief of Trauma Services in Afghanistan and he would come back after deployment and describe the horrifying injuries to our troops caused by Iranian ieds. Plus I have an image I cannot shake ever of a young Marine leaving the airport here wearing his dress blues and being wheeled by his father into a van. To me he looked no more than 20 years old and he missing both his arms and legs. I'm sorry if I put a damper on your amusement of this ongoing altercation but these religious zealots must be dealt with


https://x.com/brhodes/status/2041680999537381857?s=20
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on April 08, 2026, 08:28:48 AM
Quote from: The Sultan on April 08, 2026, 08:15:37 AMhttps://x.com/brhodes/status/2041680999537381857?s=20

As I said...
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on April 07, 2026, 08:32:33 PMIt's his SOP. Break something out of stupidity and ignorance, partially repair it, and claim total and absolute success like no one has ever seen.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 08, 2026, 08:32:17 AM
Quote from: The Sultan on April 08, 2026, 08:15:37 AMhttps://x.com/brhodes/status/2041680999537381857?s=20

You can't discuss this with cult members.  Iran could take over half of America and these buffoons would call it brilliant.

America got completely embarrassed on the world stage, Gin Diesel is purging the military to be sycophants and white males, and Iran has control of the Straits and are openly mocking Dear Leader.

Idiots abound in MAGA land.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: WellsstreetWanderer on April 08, 2026, 08:52:58 AM
Idiots abound on both sides. I don't care about who is in power I want them to be successful so that we all prosper. I will wait to see how this plays out. Im sure there is much we don't know going on in the background.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: jficke13 on April 08, 2026, 08:56:51 AM
Well credit where credit is due I guess. The war did end with an unconditional surrender.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: jesmu84 on April 08, 2026, 09:00:04 AM
Oil prices down. Share prices up.

No identifiable ceasefire actually in place.

Feels like another market manipulation attempt
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 08, 2026, 09:01:51 AM
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on April 08, 2026, 08:52:58 AMIdiots abound on both sides. I don't care about who is in power I want them to be successful so that we all prosper. I will wait to see how this plays out. Im sure there is much we don't know going on in the background.

Yeah. Lots going on the background being run by incompetent buffoons.  You want to prosper?  Get in good with the administration because that's the only group of people prospering.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on April 08, 2026, 09:06:52 AM
good news everyone, Iran's military has been completely obliterated and we won.  USA! USA!

https://x.com/Angry_Staffer/status/2041880169808318878
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 08, 2026, 09:09:52 AM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on April 08, 2026, 09:06:52 AMgood news everyone, Iran's military has been completely obliterated and we won.  USA! USA!

https://x.com/Angry_Staffer/status/2041880169808318878

Lots going on behind the scenes by the author of The Art of the Deal.  His success on the world stage has been nonpareil
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Scoop Snoop on April 08, 2026, 09:10:14 AM
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on April 08, 2026, 08:52:58 AMIdiots abound on both sides. I don't care about who is in power I want them to be successful so that we all prosper. I will wait to see how this plays out. Im sure there is much we don't know going on in the background.

Who is in power IS the problem.

In business, politics, and international conflicts-like this asinine war-wise leaders know their opponents thoroughly, know their strengths and weaknesses because experts have informed them of them, have a good idea of how their opponents will respond. Then, and only then, they make their move.

Thank you for your "wait and see" and "much we don't know" comments. They illustrate my points beautifully.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: WellsstreetWanderer on April 08, 2026, 09:23:03 AM
At least this term we know Who is making the decisions. We may not agree with them but there is someone who can be challenged and dissenting opinions can be heard.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: jficke13 on April 08, 2026, 09:23:54 AM
I'm not sure anyone has ever slammed their dick in a car door quite as comprehensively as we did in Iran before (non-invading Russia in winter division).


‪Maia‬
‪@maiamindel.bsky.social‬
· 19m
"the united states blows up every pillar of its hegemony to appease a senile pedophile" timeline is so cool and fun

‪B. A. Friedman‬
‪@bafriedman.bsky.social‬
· 1h
Ok on a serious note, it cannot be exaggerated how bad formalized Iranian control of the Strait is for the world. The entire global economy rests on an American guarantee of free commercial shipping. That guarantee is gone. We don't know exactly what will happen but none of it will be good.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: The Sultan on April 08, 2026, 09:37:26 AM
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on April 08, 2026, 08:52:58 AMIdiots abound on both sides. I don't care about who is in power I want them to be successful so that we all prosper. I will wait to see how this plays out. Im sure there is much we don't know going on in the background.

What exactly do you have to see? We haven't changed the regime, and instead have actually tacitly given them control over a waterway that was free to traverse just a few weeks ago. Furthermore Iran is still launching attacks today, and has made no pledge to stop its nuclear program.

Yeah we bombed their infrastructure, and that will take them time to rebuild no doubt, but have not fundamentally changed anything for the better.

The "religous zealots" that you ranted about above are still in charge. And their position has been legitimized by this administration.

This absolutely failed. The United States' standing in the world has decreased. A framework of well-crafted diplomacy, that took place over the course of decades by both Democrats and Republicans, has been ripped apart by people who thought they knew better - and it's obvious that they absolutely did not.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: The Sultan on April 08, 2026, 09:38:26 AM
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on April 08, 2026, 09:23:03 AMAt least this term we know Who is making the decisions. We may not agree with them but there is someone who can be challenged and dissenting opinions can be heard.

WTF are you talking about? When exactly has this not been the case?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: jficke13 on April 08, 2026, 09:39:52 AM
Quote from: The Sultan on April 08, 2026, 09:38:26 AMWTF are you talking about? When exactly has this not been the case?

Pretty sure this is just "Biden is senile and being puppetted by (((shadowy viziers)))" talk.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Scoop Snoop on April 08, 2026, 09:41:30 AM
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on April 08, 2026, 09:23:03 AMAt least this term we know Who is making the decisions. We may not agree with them but there is someone who can be challenged and dissenting opinions can be heard.

He's doing his very best to make sure that dissenters are silenced via the FCC and defacto censoring of media as the newly dubbed War Department has done. .
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TallTitan34 on April 08, 2026, 09:46:34 AM
In fairness Trump said a vote for Kamala is a vote for war, inflation, high gas prices, taking away Christmas, job losses, etc.

I voted for Kamala and did get all of those things.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on April 08, 2026, 09:47:15 AM
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on April 07, 2026, 11:13:03 PMI'm sorry if I put a damper on your amusement of this ongoing altercation but these religious zealots must be dealt with

Religious zealots must be dealt with. Yes, indeed.

(https://images2.imgbox.com/ba/16/bjhTL9JP_o.png) (https://imgbox.com/bjhTL9JP)
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TallTitan34 on April 08, 2026, 09:48:51 AM
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on April 07, 2026, 11:13:03 PMthese religious zealots must be dealt with

(https://images.euronews.com/articles/stories/09/67/57/92/1536x864_cmsv2_fd9fa157-aa63-5a3b-8214-c295edcd7c7d-9675792.jpg)
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on April 08, 2026, 09:54:01 AM
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on April 08, 2026, 08:52:58 AMIdiots abound on both sides. I don't care about who is in power I want them to be successful so that we all prosper. I will wait to see how this plays out. Im sure there is much we don't know going on in the background.

Yeah, no. There is absolutely no "both sides" here. One side, filled with incompetent ignorant buffoons, took the advice of a war criminal and started a war with no discernable goal, wasted billions of dollars, killed a bunch of school kids, decimated the U.S.'s standing in the world even further, then fled the scene after surrendering, leaving the situation FAR, FAR worse than when it started.

Both sides my ass.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 08, 2026, 10:01:10 AM
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on April 08, 2026, 09:23:03 AMAt least this term we know Who is making the decisions. We may not agree with them but there is someone who can be challenged and dissenting opinions can be heard.

This is the dumbest thing ever written on scoop
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on April 08, 2026, 10:01:42 AM
Is this the 9th war he has ended? Or was Venezuela the 9th and this is the 10th?

The Nobel Committee wants to know.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on April 08, 2026, 10:03:13 AM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 08, 2026, 10:01:10 AMThis is the dumbest thing ever written on scoop

You don't think Daltrey and Townshend were making the decisions?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 08, 2026, 10:06:05 AM
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on April 08, 2026, 10:03:13 AMYou don't think Daltrey and Townshend were making the decisions?

uh...ice cream breath but the view never talks about Hunter Biden 🥴...dont fourghet benghazi
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: wadesworld on April 08, 2026, 10:06:43 AM
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on April 08, 2026, 09:23:03 AMAt least this term we know Who is making the decisions. We may not agree with them but there is someone who can be challenged and dissenting opinions can be heard.

Boy do I wish Trump wasn't making the decisions.  America would be so much better off.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: jesmu84 on April 08, 2026, 10:32:06 AM
https://x.com/i/status/2041849888191701292
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: #UnleashThePortal on April 08, 2026, 10:34:33 AM
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on April 07, 2026, 11:13:03 PMChuckles from the armchair generals and diplomats here. I absolutely want to see this regime destroyed. I have a very good friend who twice served as Chief of Trauma Services in Afghanistan and he would come back after deployment and describe the horrifying injuries to our troops caused by Iranian ieds. Plus I have an image I cannot shake ever of a young Marine leaving the airport here wearing his dress blues and being wheeled by his father into a van. To me he looked no more than 20 years old and he missing both his arms and legs. I'm sorry if I put a damper on your amusement of this ongoing altercation but these religious zealots must be dealt with

So you want the US to go back and fight in the middle east again so another generation of fathers can take care of their limbless sons?

Thats some Maga logic right there boss.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: #UnleashThePortal on April 08, 2026, 10:36:41 AM
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on April 08, 2026, 09:23:03 AMAt least this term we know Who is making the decisions. We may not agree with them but there is someone who can be challenged and dissenting opinions can be heard.

What a weird thing to say. Trump is falling asleep in meetings, or playing golf. What?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on April 08, 2026, 10:39:57 AM
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on April 08, 2026, 09:23:03 AMAt least this term we know Who is making the decisions. We may not agree with them but there is someone who can be challenged and dissenting opinions can be heard.

And the name of that Who is Stephen Miller.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on April 08, 2026, 10:42:55 AM
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on April 08, 2026, 09:23:03 AMAt least this term we know Who is making the decisions. We may not agree with them but there is someone who can be challenged and dissenting opinions can be heard.

yes we do:

https://x.com/MattZeitlin/status/2041570532961783819

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/07/us/politics/trump-iran-war.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on April 08, 2026, 10:49:25 AM
the art of the deal:

https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/2041904747548983470
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on April 08, 2026, 10:49:46 AM
Quote from: jesmu84 on April 08, 2026, 10:32:06 AMhttps://x.com/i/status/2041849888191701292

And to be clear, the $1.7B was Iran's own payment to the U.S. for assets never delivered, plus interest, sent to them after they signed the deal.

Or, about the cost of 1 day of this war.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 08, 2026, 10:50:57 AM
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on April 08, 2026, 10:49:46 AMAnd to be clear, the $1.7B was Iran's own payment to the U.S. for assets never delivered, plus interest, sent to them after they signed the deal.

Or, about the cost of 1 day of this war.

I think that deal was made by a president in a tan suit.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on April 08, 2026, 10:56:42 AM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 08, 2026, 10:50:57 AMI think that deal was made by a president in a tan suit.

It might not have been the color of the suit as much as the color of the skin that had them upset.

(https://images2.imgbox.com/de/b1/zvriRb0o_o.png) (https://imgbox.com/zvriRb0o)
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 08, 2026, 10:57:59 AM
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on April 08, 2026, 10:56:42 AMIt might not have been the color of the suit as much as the color of the skin that had them upset.

(https://images2.imgbox.com/de/b1/zvriRb0o_o.png) (https://imgbox.com/zvriRb0o)

Reagan was a RINO
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: tower912 on April 08, 2026, 11:05:33 AM
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on April 08, 2026, 09:23:03 AMAt least this term we know Who is making the decisions. We may not agree with them but there is someone who can be challenged and dissenting opinions can be heard.
Netanyahu.  Putin.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: WellsstreetWanderer on April 08, 2026, 11:19:23 AM
Quote from: The Sultan on April 08, 2026, 09:38:26 AMWTF are you talking about? When exactly has this not been the case?
Try the last administration for one. Illegal attempts at opponents cell phone data, government agencies acting against political opponents, numerous phony indictments. Catholics being investigated by the FBI   In other words weaponized  government by whoever was acting for Biden
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on April 08, 2026, 11:21:08 AM
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on April 08, 2026, 11:19:23 AMTry the last administration for one. Illegal attempts at opponents cell phone data, government agencies acting against political opponents, numerous phony indictments. Catholics being investigated by the FBI   In other words weaponized  government by whoever was acting for Biden

The universe that you inhabit must be interesting
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on April 08, 2026, 11:22:38 AM
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on April 07, 2026, 08:32:33 PMIt's his SOP. Break something out of stupidity and ignorance, partially repair it, and claim total and absolute success like no one has ever seen.

And the media will more or less report it without any critical thought.

On cue.

Trump Says US Won 'Total and Complete Victory' After Ceasefire Deal With Iran, AFP Reports
https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2026-04-07/trump-says-us-won-total-and-complete-victory-after-ceasefire-deal-with-iran-afp-reports
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: tower912 on April 08, 2026, 11:23:17 AM
This was an inappropriate post.   I apologize to the board.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on April 08, 2026, 11:35:35 AM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on April 08, 2026, 09:46:34 AMIn fairness Trump said a vote for Kamala is a vote for war, inflation, high gas prices, taking away Christmas, job losses, etc.

I voted for Kamala and did get all of those things.

Nicely done. I might have to steal this one.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 08, 2026, 11:37:32 AM
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on April 08, 2026, 11:21:08 AMThe universe that you inhabit must be interesting

Interestingly and purposefully ignorant
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: The Sultan on April 08, 2026, 11:43:45 AM
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on April 08, 2026, 11:19:23 AMTry the last administration for one. Illegal attempts at opponents cell phone data, government agencies acting against political opponents, numerous phony indictments. Catholics being investigated by the FBI   In other words weaponized  government by whoever was acting for Biden

You think that's bad, you should see what the current administration is doing!

Seriously, I can't believe people like you are so comfortable being hypocrites.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on April 08, 2026, 11:44:46 AM
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on April 08, 2026, 11:19:23 AMTry the last administration for one. Illegal attempts at opponents cell phone data, government agencies acting against political opponents, numerous phony indictments. Catholics being investigated by the FBI  In other words weaponized  government by whoever was acting for Biden

I totally get the whataboutism. If I worshiped a demented narcissist who is a convicted felon, adjudicated sexual assaulter, pedophile's pal, war criminal and pathological liar, I also would try to justify my support for that dangerous and deranged individual by claiming (falsely) that others were even worse.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: #UnleashThePortal on April 08, 2026, 11:53:31 AM
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on April 08, 2026, 11:19:23 AMTry the last administration for one. Illegal attempts at opponents cell phone data, government agencies acting against political opponents, numerous phony indictments. Catholics being investigated by the FBI   In other words weaponized  government by whoever was acting for Biden

Hey bossman....

A) Why did you ignore my comments?
B) You really don't want to look into whats happening to Catholics in our government right now hahahahahaahahahahahaha.


Also the entire Catholic church should have been investigated by the FBI YEAAAAAAAAAARS AGO. You know... When it was discovered that a bunch of priests were RAPING little boys, and the church covered it all up? Yaaaaaa, probably FBI level investigation warranted.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on April 08, 2026, 11:55:30 AM
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on April 07, 2026, 11:13:03 PMChuckles from the armchair generals and diplomats here. I absolutely want to see this regime destroyed. I have a very good friend who twice served as Chief of Trauma Services in Afghanistan and he would come back after deployment and describe the horrifying injuries to our troops caused by Iranian ieds. Plus I have an image I cannot shake ever of a young Marine leaving the airport here wearing his dress blues and being wheeled by his father into a van. To me he looked no more than 20 years old and he missing both his arms and legs. I'm sorry if I put a damper on your amusement of this ongoing altercation but these religious zealots must be dealt with

You're correct. This is why murdering children is so essential. Can't let them grow up to be religious zealots.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on April 08, 2026, 12:05:22 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 08, 2026, 10:01:10 AMThis is the dumbest thing ever written on scoop


uhh..., I don't know about that. Read some of his other posts.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on April 08, 2026, 12:10:42 PM
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on April 08, 2026, 11:19:23 AMTry the last administration for one. Illegal attempts at opponents cell phone data, government agencies acting against political opponents, numerous phony indictments. Catholics being investigated by the FBI   In other words weaponized  government by whoever was acting for Biden

So you support ALL rapists - not just the one in the WH.

Cool.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: WellsstreetWanderer on April 08, 2026, 12:18:03 PM
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on April 08, 2026, 11:21:08 AMThe universe that you inhabit must be interesting
Evidently you can't handle the truth. TDS and ideology don't allow you to accept contrary facts. Take a deep breath and relax. Things will work out
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: #UnleashThePortal on April 08, 2026, 12:20:16 PM
Complete and TOTAL victory over Iran was announced by Hegseth. Iran has closed the strait once again.

Hell of a fight for a nation that has been defeated like 8 times in the past month.

(https://i.imgflip.com/aoos72.jpg)


Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on April 08, 2026, 12:34:08 PM
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on April 08, 2026, 11:19:23 AMTry the last administration for one. Illegal attempts at opponents cell phone data, government agencies acting against political opponents, numerous phony indictments. Catholics being investigated by the FBI   In other words weaponized  government by whoever was acting for Biden

I do not disagree that what the previous administration did to their political opponents was wrong. Can you agree that what the current administration is doing is wrong as well, especially when they brag about doing it?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on April 08, 2026, 12:35:40 PM
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on April 08, 2026, 12:18:03 PMEvidently you can't handle the truth. TDS and ideology don't allow you to accept contrary facts. Take a deep breath and relax. Things will work out

LOL. "Facts" from the guy that said the J6'ers that brought bear spray, tactical combat gear, zip ties, and hockey sticks the capital, beat police with flag poles and fire extinguishers, and erected a gallows on which they hoped to hang the sitting Vice President were just "curious citizens".

Beliefs that are contradicted by observable and provable information aren't "facts", my dude.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 08, 2026, 12:40:36 PM
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on April 08, 2026, 12:35:40 PMLOL. "Facts" from the guy that said the J6'ers that brought bear spray, tactical combat gear, zip ties, and hockey sticks the capital, beat police with flag poles and fire extinguishers, and erected a gallows on which they hoped to hang the sitting Vice President were just "curious citizens".

Beliefs that are contradicted by observable and provable information aren't "facts", my dude.

Here's a fact, the Strait was open before we attacked Iran and Iran didn't control it.

Now, it's closed again and Iran is controlling it.

Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on April 08, 2026, 12:51:03 PM
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on April 08, 2026, 12:18:03 PMEvidently you can't handle the truth. TDS and ideology don't allow you to accept contrary facts. Take a deep breath and relax. Things will work out

As soon as a cultist afflicted with Trump Deification Syndrome brings up "TDS" in a debate, he or she has admitted defeat.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Scoop Snoop on April 08, 2026, 12:55:18 PM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on April 08, 2026, 12:34:08 PMI do not disagree that what the previous administration did to their political opponents was wrong. Can you agree that what the current administration is doing is wrong as well, especially when they brag about doing it?

I'm waiting for him to say that is a trick question.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: #UnleashThePortal on April 08, 2026, 01:12:21 PM
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on April 08, 2026, 12:18:03 PMEvidently you can't handle the truth. TDS and ideology don't allow you to accept contrary facts. Take a deep breath and relax. Things will work out

I'd prefer actual FACTS instead of alternative facts.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: The Sultan on April 08, 2026, 01:43:20 PM
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on April 08, 2026, 11:19:23 AMTry the last administration for one. Illegal attempts at opponents cell phone data, government agencies acting against political opponents, numerous phony indictments. Catholics being investigated by the FBI  In other words weaponized  government by whoever was acting for Biden


You think *that* administration was anti-Catholic, this one is threatening to elect an antipope!

https://www.thefp.com/p/why-the-vatican-and-the-white-house
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on April 08, 2026, 02:33:57 PM
Delta, United and other airlines have announced increases in checked-baggage fees ... some airlines have initiated fuel surcharges ... and they all are hiking airfares.

More unforeseen consequences of an unnecessary war started by the guy who promised 53,996 times that he alone could make America more affordable.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on April 08, 2026, 02:34:22 PM
man, some people have all of the luck.

https://x.com/JamesTate121/status/2041908860576002256
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on April 08, 2026, 02:45:41 PM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on April 08, 2026, 02:34:22 PMman, some people have all of the luck.

https://x.com/JamesTate121/status/2041908860576002256

Just because I "liked" this doesn't mean I like that our country has more corrupt leadership than most banana republics.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Shaka Shart on April 08, 2026, 03:20:46 PM
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on April 08, 2026, 12:18:03 PMEvidently you can't handle the truth. TDS and ideology don't allow you to accept contrary facts. Take a deep breath and relax. Things will work out

Saying things like this must hit so hard if you're a moron. Jealous, really (I'm a different type of moron, to be clear)
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: wadesworld on April 08, 2026, 03:26:55 PM
Quote from: Shaka Shart on April 08, 2026, 03:20:46 PMSaying things like this must hit so hard if you're a moron. Jealous, really (I'm a different type of moron, to be clear)

You're a Chicago sports fan, you didn't need to tell people.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: jesmu84 on April 08, 2026, 03:53:03 PM
The strait is shut again after Israel launched another attack in Lebanon.

The ceasefire is over.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 08, 2026, 04:08:02 PM
Quote from: jesmu84 on April 08, 2026, 03:53:03 PMThe strait is shut again after Israel launched another attack in Lebanon.

The ceasefire is over.

This is a part of the Art of the Deal you armchair generals don't understand.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: jesmu84 on April 08, 2026, 04:11:59 PM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on April 08, 2026, 02:34:22 PMman, some people have all of the luck.

https://x.com/JamesTate121/status/2041908860576002256

https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=67698.msg1806270#msg1806270
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on April 08, 2026, 04:35:39 PM
The name on the account is probably John Barron.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on April 08, 2026, 04:50:18 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 08, 2026, 04:08:02 PMThis is a part of the Art of the Deal you armchair generals don't understand.

52D chess
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Shaka Shart on April 08, 2026, 05:07:32 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on April 08, 2026, 03:26:55 PMYou're a Chicago sports fan, you didn't need to tell people.

Mods?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: pbiflyer on April 08, 2026, 05:22:09 PM
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on April 08, 2026, 11:19:23 AMTry the last administration for one. Illegal attempts at opponents cell phone data, government agencies acting against political opponents, numerous phony indictments. Catholics being investigated by the FBI   In other words weaponized  government by whoever was acting for Biden

The Trump administration gave a Vatican envoy "a bitter lecture warning that the United States has the military power to do whatever it wants—and that the Church had better take its side"



https://x.com/anneapplebaum/status/2041967392994038245?s=46&t=wj-kQtLCLPNb9xDTKbHRvQ
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: forgetful on April 08, 2026, 09:09:51 PM
Quote from: jesmu84 on April 08, 2026, 03:53:03 PMThe strait is shut again after Israel launched another attack in Lebanon.

The ceasefire is over.

But Foxnews is outraged that Iran is violating the ceasefire, because Hezbollah launched some rockets in retaliation for being bombed.

You can't make this stuff up.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: cheebs09 on April 08, 2026, 09:19:04 PM
Quote from: pbiflyer on April 08, 2026, 05:22:09 PMThe Trump administration gave a Vatican envoy "a bitter lecture warning that the United States has the military power to do whatever it wants—and that the Church had better take its side"



https://x.com/anneapplebaum/status/2041967392994038245?s=46&t=wj-kQtLCLPNb9xDTKbHRvQ

Are they going to send Vance to the Vatican again?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on April 09, 2026, 08:54:42 AM
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on April 08, 2026, 09:23:03 AMAt least this term we know Who is making the decisions. We may not agree with them but there is someone who can be challenged and dissenting opinions can be heard.

(https://images2.imgbox.com/7d/ca/sTV4JGy9_o.png) (https://imgbox.com/sTV4JGy9)
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 09, 2026, 09:12:55 AM
Our glorious victory in Iran has been a massive victory for Russia, too

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/iran-war-doubles-russias-main-oil-revenue-9-bln-april-reuters-calculations-show-2026-04-09/
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on April 09, 2026, 10:11:26 AM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 09, 2026, 09:12:55 AMOur glorious victory in Iran has been a massive victory for Russia, too

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/iran-war-doubles-russias-main-oil-revenue-9-bln-april-reuters-calculations-show-2026-04-09/

As usual with America's current "leadership," Putin is the big winner.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: tower912 on April 09, 2026, 01:53:14 PM
Leo's exhortation to avoid harsh words, rash judgements, and doomsayers hits a little different now.   More than just a reason to avoid scoop.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on April 09, 2026, 04:29:22 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 09, 2026, 09:12:55 AMOur glorious victory in Iran has been a massive victory for Russia, too

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/iran-war-doubles-russias-main-oil-revenue-9-bln-april-reuters-calculations-show-2026-04-09/

And China.

The tolls that t-rump negotiated for Iran to start charging will not accept dollars as payment - just crypto and the Chinese Yuan.

And Wellstreetwanderer still can't can't figure out why t-rump declared bankruptcy 6 times. Had to be Hunter's fault, I guess.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 09, 2026, 06:29:38 PM
Quote from: Jockey on April 09, 2026, 04:29:22 PMAnd China.

The tolls that t-rump negotiated for Iran to start charging will not accept dollars as payment - just crypto and the Chinese Yuan.

And Wellstreetwanderer still can't can't figure out why t-rump declared bankruptcy 6 times. Had to be Hunter's fault, I guess.


Guess we know why we're at war with Iran.  According to Alex Jones, Trump is possessed by demonic spirits.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on April 09, 2026, 08:46:32 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 09, 2026, 06:29:38 PMGuess we know why we're at war with Iran.  According to Alex Jones, Trump is possessed by demonic spirits.

I feel bad for the spirits
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: #UnleashThePortal on April 09, 2026, 09:43:38 PM
Quote from: Shaka Shart on April 08, 2026, 05:07:32 PMMods?
should be banned for such an offense.


Just dont ask him his opinion on Jake Arrieta!
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: wadesworld on April 09, 2026, 09:45:27 PM
Quote from: #UnleashThePortal on April 09, 2026, 09:43:38 PMshould be banned for such an offense.


Just dont ask him his opinion on Jake Arrieta!

An all time roider.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Mutaman on April 10, 2026, 12:19:09 AM
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on April 08, 2026, 11:19:23 AMTry the last administration for one. Illegal attempts at opponents cell phone data, government agencies acting against political opponents, numerous phony indictments. Catholics being investigated by the FBI   In other words weaponized  government by whoever was acting for Biden

Free advice: Don't waste your time attempting to research the veracity of any of this bs.
The guy who attends mass all the time calling Wray: "I want you to investigate those damned Catholics".
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 10, 2026, 08:57:22 AM
Tough news for wellsstreet

https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-tells-knesset-panel-new-iranian-regime-even-more-extreme/
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on April 10, 2026, 09:07:02 AM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 10, 2026, 08:57:22 AMTough news for wellsstreet

https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-tells-knesset-panel-new-iranian-regime-even-more-extreme/

Yup. Could see that coming from half a world away.

And the Strait is still closed ... and Iran still has its uranium ... and the rate of inflation is now higher than it was on Jan. 20, 2025. But 13 U.S. soldiers are still dead, hundreds more are still wounded, and those evil Iranian schoolkids are still gone, so at least Capt. Bone Spur has accomplished that much with his war of vanity.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TallTitan34 on April 10, 2026, 09:17:14 AM
Quote from: MU82 on April 10, 2026, 09:07:02 AMAnd the Strait is still closed ... and Iran still has its uranium ... and the rate of inflation is now higher than it was on Jan. 20, 2025. But 13 U.S. soldiers are still dead, hundreds more are still wounded, and those evil Iranian schoolkids are still gone, so at least Capt. Bone Spur has accomplished that much with his war of vanity.

Don't worry, we've already won the war.  Twice.  Maybe three times now.  I can't keep track of all the winning.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on April 10, 2026, 10:09:49 AM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on April 10, 2026, 09:17:14 AMDon't worry, we've already won the war.  Twice.  Maybe three times now.  I can't keep track of all the winning.

our new Press Secretary:

(https://hypotheticalsyllogisms.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/winning.jpg)
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: wadesworld on April 10, 2026, 10:20:39 AM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on April 10, 2026, 09:17:14 AMDon't worry, we've already won the war.  Twice.  Maybe three times now.  I can't keep track of all the winning.

Trump's "wars ended" tally continues to rise.  Insane that the only Nobel Peace Prize he has won is a hand me down.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on April 10, 2026, 10:30:28 AM
Meanwhile, Melania told the world that Epstein's victims should be heard. Just when hubby thought Operation Epstein Distraction was working so well.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Scoop Snoop on April 10, 2026, 10:53:49 AM
Quote from: wadesworld on April 10, 2026, 10:20:39 AMTrump's "wars ended" tally continues to rise.  Insane that the only Nobel Peace Prize he has won is a hand me down.

Although it was not a hand-me-down Nobel, you neglected to mention the award given him by FIFA.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on April 10, 2026, 11:13:34 AM
Pope Woke I is at it again

https://x.com/Pontifex/status/2042588417578668338?s=20
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: #UnleashThePortal on April 10, 2026, 12:40:10 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on April 10, 2026, 10:20:39 AMTrump's "wars ended" tally continues to rise.  Insane that the only Nobel Peace Prize he has won is a hand me down.

Trump is just smarter then all the other peace prize winners.

Easiest path to peace? Start a war, declare victory, ignore the aftermath.

Do that 6 or 7 times, and suddenly you're the best at bringing peace!
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 10, 2026, 12:55:20 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on April 10, 2026, 11:13:34 AMPope Woke I is at it again

https://x.com/Pontifex/status/2042588417578668338?s=20

Why would Biden do this?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: cheebs09 on April 10, 2026, 01:03:37 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on April 10, 2026, 11:13:34 AMPope Woke I is at it again

https://x.com/Pontifex/status/2042588417578668338?s=20

We are going to bomb the Vatican aren't we.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 10, 2026, 01:12:44 PM
Quote from: cheebs09 on April 10, 2026, 01:03:37 PMWe are going to bomb the Vatican aren't we.

Nah, these idiots will actually try and pull an Avignon.  No one knows more about Catholicism than the President.  Many people say he's the smartest about Catholicism ever
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on April 10, 2026, 01:55:48 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 10, 2026, 01:12:44 PMNah, these idiots will actually try and pull an Avignon.  No one knows more about Catholicism than the President.  Many people say he's the smartest about Catholicism ever

https://www.facebook.com/nowthisimpact/videos/nobody-knows-more-than-trump-about-anything-a-supercut/3186474844750556/
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on April 10, 2026, 02:58:17 PM
Quote from: MU82 on April 10, 2026, 10:30:28 AMMeanwhile, Melania told the world that Epstein's victims should be heard. Just when hubby thought Operation Epstein Distraction was working so well.

Isn't there a long history in this country of First Ladies calling a press conferences to say they are not associated with a pedophile?

Really, who's worse? A golddigging "escort" or a lying rapist?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 10, 2026, 03:00:01 PM
Quote from: Jockey on April 10, 2026, 02:58:17 PMIsn't there a long history in this country of First Ladies calling a press conferences to say they are not associated with a pedophile?

Really, who's worse? A golddigging "escort" or a lying rapist?

At least she's not trying to get kids to eat healthy
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: tower912 on April 10, 2026, 03:06:47 PM
She terrified me with the terrorist fist bump with her husband.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on April 10, 2026, 03:19:46 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 10, 2026, 01:12:44 PMNah, these idiots will actually try and pull an Avignon.  No one knows more about Catholicism than the President.  Many people say he's the smartest about Catholicism ever

That time when the vice president wrote a book about Catholicism and put a Methodist church on the cover.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2026/04/02/jd-vance-book-cover-communion-church-photo/89436552007/
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on April 10, 2026, 03:22:12 PM
Quote from: MU82 on April 10, 2026, 10:30:28 AMMeanwhile, Melania told the world that Epstein's victims should be heard. Just when hubby thought Operation Epstein Distraction was working so well.

which of the alleged five languages she speaks (none of them English) did she give the speech in?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 10, 2026, 03:25:22 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on April 10, 2026, 03:19:46 PMThat time when the vice president wrote a book about Catholicism and put a Methodist church on the cover.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2026/04/02/jd-vance-book-cover-communion-church-photo/89436552007/

Part of Biden's war on Catholics in conjunction with the Vatican
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Scoop Snoop on April 10, 2026, 03:54:58 PM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on April 10, 2026, 03:22:12 PMwhich of the alleged five languages she speaks (none of them English) did she give the speech in?

I was fine with her speaking. Reminded me of a trip my wife and I took to Prague. We really enjoyed it, and by blocking out who the speaker was, the accent brought back pleasant memories.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 10, 2026, 04:12:48 PM
At least insiders are getting rich off the war.  Average Americans?  Costing us a few pennies.

https://www.nbcnews.com/business/economy/march-inflation-report-iran-war-gas-prices-rcna267535
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on April 10, 2026, 05:51:20 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on April 10, 2026, 03:19:46 PMThat time when the vice president wrote a book about Catholicism and put a Methodist church on the cover.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2026/04/02/jd-vance-book-cover-communion-church-photo/89436552007/

This kind of attention to detail will come in handy when JV negotiates with the Iranians.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on April 10, 2026, 06:41:09 PM
Most homes in the Northeast are heated with home heating oil.  I want thank Trump for a $931 bill for this week's delivery, easily 25% higher than any delivery ever in the 28 years in my home.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 10, 2026, 08:01:00 PM
Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on April 10, 2026, 06:41:09 PMMost homes in the Northeast are heated with home heating oil.  I want thank Trump for a $931 bill for this week's delivery, easily 25% higher than any delivery ever in the 28 years in my home.

Just a few pennies
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on April 10, 2026, 08:06:20 PM
Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on April 10, 2026, 06:41:09 PMMost homes in the Northeast are heated with home heating oil.  I want thank Trump for a $931 bill for this week's delivery, easily 25% higher than any delivery ever in the 28 years in my home.

You'll just have to buy fewer pencils for your kids next Christmas.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: forgetful on April 10, 2026, 08:09:56 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 10, 2026, 01:12:44 PMNah, these idiots will actually try and pull an Avignon.  No one knows more about Catholicism than the President.  Many people say he's the smartest about Catholicism ever

None of this would have happened if the Pope was an American.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on April 11, 2026, 09:31:55 AM
Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on April 10, 2026, 06:41:09 PMMost homes in the Northeast are heated with home heating oil.  I want thank Trump for a $931 bill for this week's delivery, easily 25% higher than any delivery ever in the 28 years in my home.

Luckily, you are happy to pay it to keep our country safe.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: forgetful on April 11, 2026, 04:33:47 PM
What do scoopers think the odds are that if a deal isn't reached, that the US and Israel re-initiate attacks before the end of the 2-week ceasefire?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 11, 2026, 04:52:50 PM
Quote from: forgetful on April 11, 2026, 04:33:47 PMWhat do scoopers think the odds are that if a deal isn't reached, that the US and Israel re-initiate attacks before the end of the 2-week ceasefire?

Israel will bomb them regardless
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on April 11, 2026, 04:59:38 PM
Quote from: forgetful on April 11, 2026, 04:33:47 PMWhat do scoopers think the odds are that if a deal isn't reached, that the US and Israel re-initiate attacks before the end of the 2-week ceasefire?

Israel hasn't stopped attacking yet, no need to re-initiate.

Bibi is a war criminal
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: jesmu84 on April 11, 2026, 05:41:10 PM
Quote from: forgetful on April 11, 2026, 04:33:47 PMWhat do scoopers think the odds are that if a deal isn't reached, that the US and Israel re-initiate attacks before the end of the 2-week ceasefire?

I see you're unfamiliar with how Israel defines "ceasefire"
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: rocky_warrior on April 11, 2026, 06:05:51 PM
Quote from: jesmu84 on April 11, 2026, 05:41:10 PMI see you're unfamiliar with how Israel defines "ceasefire"

Simple language problem.  In Hebrew, the "cease" is silent.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on April 11, 2026, 06:38:15 PM
Quote from: rocky_warrior on April 11, 2026, 06:05:51 PMSimple language problem.  In Hebrew, the "cease" is silent.

You got a lotta chutzpah, pal!
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: pbiflyer on April 11, 2026, 08:21:40 PM
Quote from: forgetful on April 10, 2026, 08:09:56 PMNone of this would have happened if the Pope was an American.
You mean if the Pope was a brewers fan.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: The Sultan on April 11, 2026, 08:33:32 PM
Quote from: pbiflyer on April 11, 2026, 08:21:40 PMYou mean if the Pope was a brewers fan.

Yeah, this Pope seems way too south-sidey....
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on April 11, 2026, 10:08:33 PM
Unfortunately, the peace talks failed to deliver peace, with each side blaming the other for rejecting suggested terms.

Capt. Bone Spur said earlier in the day that he didn't care if a deal was reached or not because he "already won." Perfect.

Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Scoop Snoop on April 11, 2026, 10:41:09 PM
Quote from: MU82 on April 11, 2026, 10:08:33 PMUnfortunately, the peace talks failed to deliver peace, with each side blaming the other for rejecting suggested terms.

Capt. Bone Spur said earlier in the day that he didn't care if a deal was reached or not because he "already won." Perfect.

Thank you for your attention to this matter.



Allegedly the Iranians want to deal only with Vance, not Witkoff or Kushner. Trump can and will blame Vance for the failures, the Iranians have an opportunity to establish some sort of working relationship with Vance in case he becomes president via Trumps death or possibly in 2028. Everybody gets something out of this-Trump, the Iranians, and Vance. I think Vance is the biggest winner-he can claim to have tried to settle a mess he did not create and look like a reasonable leader. It will sell with many Americans.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 12, 2026, 06:30:32 AM
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on April 11, 2026, 10:41:09 PMAllegedly the Iranians want to deal only with Vance, not Witkoff or Kushner. Trump can and will blame Vance for the failures, the Iranians have an opportunity to establish some sort of working relationship with Vance in case he becomes president via Trumps death or possibly in 2028. Everybody gets something out of this-Trump, the Iranians, and Vance. I think Vance is the biggest winner-he can claim to have tried to settle a mess he did not create and look like a reasonable leader. It will sell with many Americans.

Rubio couldn't bother with it because he was at a UFC fight.

If history has taught us anything, if you can't put together a peace plan in 6 hours, you give up because it isn't possible.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on April 12, 2026, 07:09:26 AM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 12, 2026, 06:30:32 AMRubio couldn't bother with it because he was at a UFC fight.

If history has taught us anything, if you can't put together a peace plan in 6 hours, you give up because it isn't possible.

The master negotiator, in a desperate attempt to find an off ramp for his colossal failure, initially agreed to Iran's 10-point proposal...which included Iran continuing to enrich uranium and controlling the Strait while collecting tolls. Couch unnatural carnal knowledgeer Vance can claim all he wants that Iran didn't understand their own proposal (LOL), but Trump put the U.S. in a no-win situation because he is unnatural carnal knowledgeing moron.

Trump brought the same level of expertise to this as he brought to bankrupting casinos, and airlines, and mail order steak companies, and...
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 12, 2026, 07:25:47 AM
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on April 12, 2026, 07:09:26 AMThe master negotiator, in a desperate attempt to find an off ramp for his colossal failure, initially agreed to Iran's 10-point proposal...which included Iran continuing to enrich uranium and controlling the Strait while collecting tolls. Couch unnatural carnal knowledgeer Vance can claim all he wants that Iran didn't understand their own proposal (LOL), but Trump put the U.S. in a no-win situation because he is unnatural carnal knowledgeing moron.

Trump brought the same level of expertise to this as he brought to bankrupting casinos, and airlines, and mail order steak companies, and...

At least we have the greatest economy ever
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: tower912 on April 12, 2026, 07:27:41 AM
Tariff-ic economy.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: The Sultan on April 12, 2026, 08:52:39 AM
So apparently we are going to blockade the strait so no ships can pass through...even those who have paid the "toll" to Iran.

Which is strange since Trump declared we "won" already.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on April 12, 2026, 08:53:03 AM
Concepts of the plan, y'all:

https://x.com/i/status/2043321551735406760
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: The Sultan on April 12, 2026, 09:07:15 AM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on April 12, 2026, 08:53:03 AMConcepts of the plan, y'all:

https://x.com/i/status/2043321551735406760


I mean, he doesn't want Iran profiting from this, but I'm not sure what the end game is here. Are they really going to threaten to sink a Chinese or Indian tanker?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 12, 2026, 09:20:10 AM
Quote from: The Sultan on April 12, 2026, 09:07:15 AMI mean, he doesn't want Iran profiting from this, but I'm not sure what the end game is here. Are they really going to threaten to sink a Chinese or Indian tanker?

You armchair generals don't understand what's going on.  It's the art of the deal in action
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: #UnleashThePortal on April 12, 2026, 10:06:42 AM
Trump is now blockading the strait of Hormuz.... which is effectively what Iran was already doing?

Winning
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 12, 2026, 10:55:13 AM
Quote from: #UnleashThePortal on April 12, 2026, 10:06:42 AMTrump is now blockading the strait of Hormuz.... which is effectively what Iran was already doing?

Winning

Just laughing at scoopers thinking they understand foreign diplomacy as well as the president does.  Many people say he's the greatest diplomat ever.  He's ended a dozen wars at least and his trade deals are the envy of past presidents.  Many people are saying this.  Many strong, men are actually crying as they say this.  It's never been seen before
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: forgetful on April 12, 2026, 10:56:07 AM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on April 12, 2026, 08:53:03 AMConcepts of the plan, y'all:

https://x.com/i/status/2043321551735406760

This doesn't make sense on so many levels. It now also nullifies any actions the UN has taken or can take on the matter.

Because if you want to make a resolution against Iran for blocking the strait, then you also have to make a resolution against the US for blocking the strait. Which we either veto, since it is also against us, or allow a resolution by the UN indicating we are violating international law.

Brilliant!
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: #UnleashThePortal on April 12, 2026, 10:56:18 AM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 12, 2026, 10:55:13 AMJust laughing at scoopers thinking they understand foreign diplomacy as well as the president does.  Many people say he's the greatest diplomat ever.  He's ended a dozen wars at least and his trade deals are the envy of past presidents.  Many people are saying this.  Many strong, men are actually crying as they say this.  It's never been seen before

He's just speed running my latest civ 5 global domination game.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on April 12, 2026, 11:05:42 AM
This makes sense. However it ends up he'll definitely have nailed it.

https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/2043355677192544753
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: forgetful on April 12, 2026, 12:13:58 PM
We're going to either start a World War, or another forever Middle East war, that both bankrupts the country and to actually win would require reinitiating the draft...aren't we?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on April 12, 2026, 12:15:55 PM
Quote from: The Sultan on April 12, 2026, 09:07:15 AMI mean, he doesn't want Iran profiting from this, but I'm not sure what the end game is here. Are they really going to threaten to sink a Chinese or Indian tanker?

End game?

That's hilarious.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on April 12, 2026, 12:19:42 PM
Quote from: forgetful on April 12, 2026, 12:13:58 PMWe're going to either start a World War, or another forever Middle East war, that both bankrupts the country and to actually win would require reinitiating the draft...aren't we?

The Vietnam war protests would look tiny compared to what would happen if the draft is re-instituted.

And no, tall $$y-grabber Jr. wouldn't be drafted. Bone spurs are highly hereditary.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on April 12, 2026, 01:19:28 PM
Quote from: forgetful on April 12, 2026, 12:13:58 PMWe're going to either start a World War, or another forever Middle East war, that both bankrupts the country and to actually win would require reinitiating the draft...aren't we?

The Russians are getting a hell of an ROI on their investmet
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: pbiflyer on April 12, 2026, 01:26:11 PM
Quote from: #UnleashThePortal on April 12, 2026, 10:06:42 AMTrump is now blockading the strait of Hormuz.... which is effectively what Iran was already doing?

Winning

I am also blockading all super models from dating me. Winning!

Trump orders naval blockade to unblock the blockade that only needs unblocking because Trump started the war that caused the blockade.

5D Chess, people.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: The Sultan on April 12, 2026, 01:34:12 PM
Quote from: pbiflyer on April 12, 2026, 01:26:11 PMI am also blockading all super models from dating me. Winning!

Trump orders naval blockade to unblock the blockade that only needs unblocking because Trump started the war that caused the blockade.

5D Chess, people.


This entire episode has been a disaster, but if the goal is to stop Iran from monetizing the strait, this is probably  what needs to be done. But it is obviously risky.

Of course, there was no chance Iran was going to give up this leverage via negotiation.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on April 12, 2026, 02:08:32 PM
Between Hungary and Islamabad, it's been a rough weekend for JD.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 12, 2026, 02:12:13 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on April 12, 2026, 02:08:32 PMBetween Hungary and Islamabad, it's been a rough weekend for JD.

Hopefully, Mike Pence has the courage to do the right this time
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Scoop Snoop on April 12, 2026, 02:52:57 PM
Quote from: pbiflyer on April 12, 2026, 01:26:11 PMI am also blockading all super models from dating me. Winning! They weren't good enough for you anyway.

Trump orders naval blockade to unblock the blockade that only needs unblocking because Trump started the war that caused the blockade.

5D Chess, people. He's a very stable genius. There simply is no way we simple folk could possibly understand.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on April 12, 2026, 05:29:01 PM
Just as I won Minnesota 3 times, I have won this war.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 13, 2026, 06:20:53 AM
Tough to see the news this morning as Biden unloads on the Pope.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: tower912 on April 13, 2026, 06:27:31 AM
Inevitable.  One with a message of peace and morality.  One disregarding the first commandment, having disregarded so many others, with a graven image of himself as a god-like figure.

A philosophical difference of opinion was only a matter of time.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 13, 2026, 06:54:05 AM
Quote from: tower912 on April 13, 2026, 06:27:31 AMInevitable.  One with a message of peace and morality.  One disregarding the first commandment, having disregarded so many others, with a graven image of himself as a god-like figure.

A philosophical difference of opinion was only a matter of time.

"One day, you will be called upon to show your true faith in God"
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: cheebs09 on April 13, 2026, 07:04:54 AM
Quite the post from our president this morning depicting himself as Jesus.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 13, 2026, 07:26:50 AM
Quote from: cheebs09 on April 13, 2026, 07:04:54 AMQuite the post from our president this morning depicting himself as Jesus.

I'm pretty sure that's in the Bible.  At least he wasn't in a tan suit in that image.  That would have been offensive
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 13, 2026, 07:30:07 AM
The war will cost you a few more pennies buying toys as well as at the pump.  Little Susie will be stuck only getting one doll again this Xmas it looks like.

https://bsky.app/profile/fintwitter.bsky.social/post/3mjefggst7l2w
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: The Sultan on April 13, 2026, 07:45:24 AM
Quote from: cheebs09 on April 13, 2026, 07:04:54 AMQuite the post from our president this morning depicting himself as Jesus.

Raising Jeffrey Epstein from the dead I guess.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: The Sultan on April 13, 2026, 07:59:41 AM
https://bsky.app/profile/vickyacab.bsky.social/post/3mjeuqkhybc2v

Vicky ACAB‬
 ‪@vickyacab.bsky.social‬
Fighting with the pope, thinking of himself as god, humiliated in a naval war of choice he assumed he would win easily over an "inferior" people, surrounded by kook healers and medical advisors, obsessed with familial legacy in the shadow of an actually successful father, this man is Nicholas II
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on April 13, 2026, 10:22:22 AM
Quote from: tower912 on April 13, 2026, 06:27:31 AMInevitable.  One with a message of peace and morality.  One disregarding the first commandment, having disregarded so many others, with a graven image of himself as a god-like figure.

He literally has broken nine Commandments. Could be 10, though I'm admittedly not sure about #5. His racist, antisemitic old man probably would be proud of him, though.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Scoop Snoop on April 13, 2026, 11:10:31 AM
Quote from: cheebs09 on April 13, 2026, 07:04:54 AMQuite the post from our president this morning depicting himself as Jesus.

Great news! Orange Jesus has deleted the post. So... nothing to see here. Let's move along.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: cheebs09 on April 13, 2026, 11:16:29 AM
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on April 13, 2026, 11:10:31 AMGreat news! Orange Jesus has deleted the post. So... nothing to see here. Let's move along.

Let's see what happens in 3 days.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: jesmu84 on April 13, 2026, 11:38:28 AM
Quote from: cheebs09 on April 13, 2026, 11:16:29 AMLet's see what happens in 3 days.

Gold, Jerry, gold.gif
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on April 13, 2026, 11:46:10 AM
Evangelicals are ecstatic. They finally have their new Messiah.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: wadesworld on April 13, 2026, 11:48:00 AM
His ear already rose from the dead, so why not?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on April 13, 2026, 11:48:42 AM
Quote from: cheebs09 on April 13, 2026, 11:16:29 AMLet's see what happens in 3 days.

Let's test the theory.

Let the creep die and we can all wait to see what happens.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on April 13, 2026, 12:02:27 PM
Quote from: Jockey on April 13, 2026, 11:46:10 AMEvangelicals are ecstatic. They finally have their new Messiah.

honestly, even they are pissed off. When you've lost people like Riley Gaines...

https://archive.ph/oZbCY

Isabel Brown, a Catholic podcaster with the Daily Wire outlet and a conservative influencer allied with the Trump White House, spoke out against it.
"This post is, frankly, disgusting and unacceptable, but also a profound misreading of the American people experiencing a true and beautiful revival of faith in Christ in the midst of our broken culture," Brown wrote.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TallTitan34 on April 13, 2026, 12:07:38 PM
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on April 13, 2026, 11:10:31 AMGreat news! Orange Jesus has deleted the post. So... nothing to see here. Let's move along.

Why did he delete the post? He was clearly a doctor.

https://x.com/acyn/status/2043731872757493835?s=46
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 13, 2026, 12:10:25 PM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on April 13, 2026, 12:02:27 PMhonestly, even they are pissed off. When you've lost people like Riley Gaines...

https://archive.ph/oZbCY

Isabel Brown, a Catholic podcaster with the Daily Wire outlet and a conservative influencer allied with the Trump White House, spoke out against it.
"This post is, frankly, disgusting and unacceptable, but also a profound misreading of the American people experiencing a true and beautiful revival of faith in Christ in the midst of our broken culture," Brown wrote.


I wonder if it lasts, but the right wing grifter sect has begun moving away from the president since the start of the war.  Add the evangelical/religious grifters to the mix and things get interesting.

My hunch is, those grifters are damaging their base more than the president's base, even if they're the same.

Either way, insert the let them fight gif.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 13, 2026, 12:11:09 PM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on April 13, 2026, 12:07:38 PMWhy did he delete the post? He was clearly a doctor.

https://x.com/acyn/status/2043731872757493835?s=46

9 out of 10 dentists believe this.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: wadesworld on April 13, 2026, 12:11:16 PM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on April 13, 2026, 12:07:38 PMWhy did he delete the post? He was clearly a doctor.

https://x.com/acyn/status/2043731872757493835?s=46

Checks out to me.  Not sure what you're mad about...
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 13, 2026, 12:15:04 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on April 13, 2026, 12:11:16 PMChecks out to me.  Not sure what you're mad about...

Like blasphemy, lying isn't a sin.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Scoop Snoop on April 13, 2026, 12:18:38 PM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on April 13, 2026, 12:07:38 PMWhy did he delete the post? He was clearly a doctor.


Honestly, I never thought that anyone, even Trump, could make this worse. I told my wife years ago that Trump had no bottom-don't put anything past him. And yet I still underestimated him!
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on April 13, 2026, 12:21:12 PM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on April 13, 2026, 12:07:38 PMWhy did he delete the post? He was clearly a doctor.

https://x.com/acyn/status/2043731872757493835?s=46

Ok, that makes sense. My dad was a doctor for over 40 years and did numerous medical missions, and he always wore flowing robes to work. In fact, every doctor I've ever gone to wears them; they get them at graduation from med school. It's like a law school hooding ceremony. It's how I can tell I have a real doctor and not a resident or PA. Thanks for clearning that up, Dr. Trump, M.D.

EDIT: it's also why my dad had a beard...
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on April 13, 2026, 12:25:07 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on April 13, 2026, 12:11:16 PMChecks out to me.  Not sure what you're mad about...

Should we be surprised Dear Leader doesn't know what Jesus Christ wore in depictions of him?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on April 13, 2026, 01:21:46 PM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on April 13, 2026, 12:21:12 PMOk, that makes sense. My dad was a doctor for over 40 years and did numerous medical missions, and he always wore flowing robes to work. In fact, every doctor I've ever gone to wears them; they get them at graduation from med school. It's like a law school hooding ceremony. It's how I can tell I have a real doctor and not a resident or PA. Thanks for clearning that up, Dr. Trump, M.D.

EDIT: it's also why my dad had a beard...

On my last visit, my doctor cured my messed up rotator cuff by touching my forehead with one hand while a ball of light emitted from the other.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 13, 2026, 02:32:11 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on April 13, 2026, 01:21:46 PMOn my last visit, my doctor cured my messed up rotator cuff by touching my forehead with one hand while a ball of light emitted from the other.

That's basically American healthcare anyway
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on April 13, 2026, 02:44:20 PM
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on April 13, 2026, 12:18:38 PMHonestly, I never thought that anyone, even Trump, could make this worse. I told my wife years ago that Trump had no bottom-don't put anything past him. And yet I still underestimated him!

Yup. There's ALWAYS a new low. These days, it's pretty much every time he either opens his mouth or uses Lies Social.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TallTitan34 on April 13, 2026, 04:06:32 PM
Quote from: MU82 on April 13, 2026, 02:44:20 PMYup. There's ALWAYS a new low.

https://x.com/wutangkids/status/2043735423214661988?s=46
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on April 13, 2026, 04:58:40 PM
How is this war still going on? We sent the cream of the crop to negotiate an end. A guy with  no diplomatic or foreign policy experience and 2 guys that build buildings. What else can it take?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: rocky_warrior on April 13, 2026, 05:01:41 PM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on April 13, 2026, 04:06:32 PMWe are living in the dumbest timeline and it keeps getting dumber every day

Why wasn't he wearing his doctor's robe???
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on April 13, 2026, 05:07:30 PM
In an interview on CNN, Scaramucci said that his former boss going after the Pope and depicting himself as Jesus was at least partially a direct shot at JV.

"His whole thing is you kowtow to me, the decision-making is a body of one. ... I see something more strategic there, knowing him, and knowing what he likes to do to his staff."

Scaramucci also allowed that part of it was that his former boss "has lost his mind."
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on April 13, 2026, 05:08:13 PM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on April 13, 2026, 12:25:07 PMShould we be surprised Dear Leader doesn't know what Jesus Christ wore in depictions of him?

I...I...I can't even begin to explain this one. WTAF?:

(https://images2.imgbox.com/57/d6/tGfFOH9u_o.png) (https://imgbox.com/tGfFOH9u)

"The AI-generated image Trump shared, portraying him as the son of God, was not the original. The picture first appeared in early February, posted to X by Nick Adams, a conservative commentator with a history of sharing AI-generated, biblically themed Trump content. In Adams's version, a silhouette of a US soldier stands in the background. In Trump's version, that soldier has been Photoshopped into a demonic figure with horns looming behind the president as he performs his miracle."

https://www.irishtimes.com/world/us/2026/04/13/trump-deletes-post-with-ai-image-depicting-him-as-jesus-i-thought-it-was-me-as-a-doctor/
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: tower912 on April 13, 2026, 05:12:13 PM
Yes, Trump is depicted as having a demon behind him.  Finally some truth?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on April 13, 2026, 05:20:10 PM
Quote from: tower912 on April 13, 2026, 05:12:13 PMYes, Trump is depicted as having a demon behind him.  Finally some truth?

So who photoshopped it to include a demon? And why? WTAF?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on April 13, 2026, 06:07:57 PM
Poll after poll shows that Americans hate this war.

As it turns out, Israelis aren't too keen on it, either.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/13/world/middleeast/israeli-iran-war-polls.html

Barely a third of Israelis now believe that when Israel and the United States disagree, Israel can act on its own judgment, according to an opinion poll released on Sunday by the Institute for National Security Studies in Tel Aviv.

A separate poll by Agam Labs and the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, also released on Sunday, found that three times as many Israelis saw the war as a failure than as a victory. Some 70 percent said that the two-week cease-fire reflected an American concession to Iran more than vice versa, and two-thirds said they opposed the truce.

Four out of five Israelis believe a U.S.-Iran agreement is unlikely or impossible and that if one were reached, it would be bad for Israel's security, that survey found. And three out of four believe that neither Iran nor Hezbollah has been severely weakened.

Most Israelis have become pessimistic, fatigued, disillusioned and distrustful of the information that they are receiving, the Agam-Hebrew University survey found.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on April 14, 2026, 01:53:01 AM
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on April 13, 2026, 05:08:13 PMI...I...I can't even begin to explain this one. WTAF?:

(https://images2.imgbox.com/57/d6/tGfFOH9u_o.png) (https://imgbox.com/tGfFOH9u)

"The AI-generated image Trump shared, portraying him as the son of God, was not the original. The picture first appeared in early February, posted to X by Nick Adams, a conservative commentator with a history of sharing AI-generated, biblically themed Trump content. In Adams's version, a silhouette of a US soldier stands in the background. In Trump's version, that soldier has been Photoshopped into a demonic figure with horns looming behind the president as he performs his miracle."

https://www.irishtimes.com/world/us/2026/04/13/trump-deletes-post-with-ai-image-depicting-him-as-jesus-i-thought-it-was-me-as-a-doctor/

Trump adding in his pal Jeff Epstein.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Mutaman on April 14, 2026, 02:31:32 AM
Quote from: Jockey on April 13, 2026, 04:58:40 PMHow is this war still going on? We sent the cream of the crop to negotiate an end. A guy with  no diplomatic or foreign policy experience and 2 guys that build buildings. What else can it take?

Kushner and Whitkoff never built a Building in their Lives. They bought and sold buildings.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on April 14, 2026, 12:43:36 PM
Ohio man who flew to Budapest to insert himself into Hungarian politics says Chicago man who lives in Rome should stay out of American politics.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on April 14, 2026, 01:15:03 PM
But at least he's winning the war on high taxes and wasteful spending. Oh wait ...

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-record-number-say-taxes-too-high-government-spending-seen-wasteful

With the deadline to file taxes a week away, a record number of voters say their taxes are too high, according to the latest Fox News Poll. They are also bothered by the rich not paying their fair share and how the government uses their money. In addition, three-quarters feel government spending is wasteful — up almost 20 points since last year.

Last year, 57% said a great deal (44%) or almost all (13%) of government spending was inefficient; now that's up 18 points, with 75% feeling that way (53% a great deal, 22% almost all).

Voters are also down on how the Trump administration has handled identifying and cutting wasteful government spending, with nearly two-thirds, 64%, calling their efforts only fair (20%) or poor (44%), up from 56% last March (13% only fair, 43% poor).

A record 70% of voters think the taxes they pay are too high — up 11 points from last March and surpassing the previous high of 64% in March 2024. It also marks the largest year-over-year increase since the question was first asked in 2004, when 51% felt taxes were too high. A majority of voters have consistently said their tax burden is too much.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 14, 2026, 01:48:03 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on April 14, 2026, 12:43:36 PMOhio man who flew to Budapest to insert himself into Hungarian politics says Chicago man who lives in Rome should stay out of American politics.

I mean, Popes have never been political in the history of the Catholic Church.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on April 14, 2026, 02:20:47 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 14, 2026, 01:48:03 PMI mean, Popes have never been political in the history of the Catholic Church.

"John Paul II should stay out of Polish politics."
 - Leonid Brezhnev
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 14, 2026, 02:45:52 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on April 14, 2026, 02:20:47 PM"John Paul II should stay out of Polish politics."
 - Leonid Brezhnev

That was different!
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 14, 2026, 05:39:22 PM
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DXFqxabDhV_/?igsh=M2R6aXg0dnFqeXJ6
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Shaka Shart on April 14, 2026, 08:43:44 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 14, 2026, 05:39:22 PMhttps://www.instagram.com/reel/DXFqxabDhV_/?igsh=M2R6aXg0dnFqeXJ6

I mean, maybe that's true. Because the opposite, a dentist, is likely to be the antichrist
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: pbiflyer on April 14, 2026, 09:42:46 PM
Looks like we can close this thread. War's over (evidently Wormer dropped the big one)

The war against Iran is over, Trump said, quoted by Fox News journalist Maria Bartiromo, who interviewed him.

https://x.com/vegasyx/status/2044181138617323832
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on April 14, 2026, 09:52:33 PM
That only makes the 47th time the war has been over. Lots more to go.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TallTitan34 on April 15, 2026, 05:49:04 AM
Did we win this time?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 15, 2026, 07:07:15 AM
Tough morning for MAGA Catholics as they'll have no choice but to side with Catholicism expert, JD Vance over the weak on crime and weak on nuclear Pope.

Pointless wars make stupid people choose stupid sides and people.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: pbiflyer on April 15, 2026, 07:19:09 AM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 15, 2026, 07:07:15 AMTough morning for MAGA Catholics as they'll have no choice but to side with Catholicism expert, JD Vance over the weak on crime and weak on nuclear Pope.

Pointless wars make stupid people choose stupid sides and people.
Don't even get me started on the pope ridiculous stance on open borders at Vatican City. Millions just streaming in there all the time.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 15, 2026, 07:20:32 AM
Quote from: pbiflyer on April 15, 2026, 07:19:09 AMDon't even get me started on the pope ridiculous stance on open borders at Vatican City. Millions just streaming in there all the time.

Yeah, this pope is pretty weak on maintaining pure, ethnic whiteness
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: #UnleashThePortal on April 15, 2026, 07:48:20 AM
Trump has graciously fully opened the strait!

The blockade was totally working, and was absolutely not being ignored.



In reality, how bad does the fallout go for trump?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on April 15, 2026, 07:56:22 AM
Quote from: pbiflyer on April 14, 2026, 09:42:46 PMLooks like we can close this thread. War's over (evidently Wormer dropped the big one)

The war against Iran is over, Trump said, quoted by Fox News journalist Maria Bartiromo, who interviewed him.

https://x.com/vegasyx/status/2044181138617323832

I guess his buddies and spawn had to make some money in the market this morning. Back to "total obliteration" after they cash out.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: jesmu84 on April 15, 2026, 08:01:17 AM
Is this another taco? Or just standard market manipulation?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: jesmu84 on April 15, 2026, 08:18:45 AM
Wait.

How exactly is the US going to "permanently open" the strait?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 15, 2026, 08:33:38 AM
Quote from: #UnleashThePortal on April 15, 2026, 07:48:20 AMTrump has graciously fully opened the strait!

The blockade was totally working, and was absolutely not being ignored.



In reality, how bad does the fallout go for trump?

Hahahahahaha.  His moron supporters will support him regardless.  It's just a few pennies
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on April 15, 2026, 08:51:09 AM
Quote from: jesmu84 on April 15, 2026, 08:18:45 AMWait.

How exactly is the US going to "permanently open" the strait?

"Doctor Jesus" has a plan.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on April 15, 2026, 09:19:50 AM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 15, 2026, 08:33:38 AMHahahahahaha.  His moron supporters will support him regardless.  It's just a few pennies

More bizarrely, the financial markets seem to believe his every blurt as if they are true.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 15, 2026, 09:54:38 AM
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on April 15, 2026, 09:19:50 AMMore bizarrely, the financial markets seem to believe his every blurt as if they are true.

The rich get richer in America.  The poor get poorer.  Those in the middle are just dopes being roped along
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 15, 2026, 10:45:53 AM
Stunning news for McKinley, Wilson and Truman fans

https://bsky.app/profile/thebulwark.com/post/3mjk76zhdd72j
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on April 15, 2026, 10:51:08 AM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 15, 2026, 09:54:38 AMThe rich get richer in America.  The poor get poorer.  Those in the middle are just dopes being roped along

Hey now, our MAGA-adjacent governor suspended the 17-cent gas tax here. I'm going out for filet mignon tonight with the savings after I fill up my tank!

Hell, I might even put in 93 octane with those savings.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 15, 2026, 10:52:09 AM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on April 15, 2026, 10:51:08 AMHey now, our MAGA-adjacent governor suspended the 17-cent gas tax here. I'm going out for filet mignon tonight with the savings after I fill up my tank!

Hell, I might even put in 93 octane with those savings.

The world's greatest economy marches on!

🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on April 15, 2026, 11:02:11 AM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on April 15, 2026, 10:51:08 AMHey now, our MAGA-adjacent governor suspended the 17-cent gas tax here. I'm going out for filet mignon tonight with the savings after I fill up my tank!

Hell, I might even put in 93 octane with those savings.

You probably should save the money for repairs when your car hits a pothole that won't get fixed now.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: #UnleashThePortal on April 15, 2026, 11:05:08 AM
Quote from: Pakuni on April 15, 2026, 11:02:11 AMYou probably should save the money for repairs when your car hits a pothole that won't get fixed now.

Wait, they fix pot holes with gas tax money? News to me, I thought they just ignored them.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on April 15, 2026, 11:18:09 AM
Quote from: Pakuni on April 15, 2026, 11:02:11 AMYou probably should save the money for repairs when your car hits a pothole that won't get fixed now.

All of those years playing Mario Kart with my nephew have prepared me for driving in the winter with all of the potholes. I've "won" three winters in a row.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on April 15, 2026, 01:23:29 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 15, 2026, 10:45:53 AMStunning news for McKinley, Wilson and Truman fans

https://bsky.app/profile/thebulwark.com/post/3mjk76zhdd72j

"Nobody knows more about dementia than I do." --Donnie Two Dolls
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 15, 2026, 01:36:07 PM
The war on Catholicism remains.  Looks like the radical left woke mob has infiltrated the highest ranks of American Catholicism

https://bsky.app/profile/christopherjhale.bsky.social/post/3mjkezzu7dc2w
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: The Sultan on April 15, 2026, 01:42:26 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 15, 2026, 01:36:07 PMThe war on Catholicism remains.  Looks like the radical left woke mob has infiltrated the highest ranks of American Catholicism

https://bsky.app/profile/christopherjhale.bsky.social/post/3mjkezzu7dc2w


https://bsky.app/profile/arobertswrites.com/post/3mjkejire7s2u

‪Abby‬
 ‪@arobertswrites.com‬
Trying to explain St Augustine to the pope, the former head of the Augustinian order, who wrote his doctoral thesis on Augustine, on his way back from celebrating mass at the Basilica of St Augustine in Annaba, Algeria, overlooking the site where Augustine lived is peak Adult Catholic Convert.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: jficke13 on April 15, 2026, 01:50:07 PM
Quote from: The Sultan on April 15, 2026, 01:42:26 PMhttps://bsky.app/profile/arobertswrites.com/post/3mjkejire7s2u

‪Abby‬
 ‪@arobertswrites.com‬
Trying to explain St Augustine to the pope, the former head of the Augustinian order, who wrote his doctoral thesis on Augustine, on his way back from celebrating mass at the Basilica of St Augustine in Annaba, Algeria, overlooking the site where Augustine lived is peak Adult Catholic Convert.

Undefeated:


Everything Price Sufferer (but especially eggs)
@agraybee
Every lifelong Catholic I've ever met is like "I think we're supposed to give this food to poor people" and every adult convert is like "the Archon of Constantinople's epistle on the Pentacostine rites of the eucharist clearly states women shouldn't have driver's licenses."
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on April 15, 2026, 03:15:28 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 15, 2026, 09:54:38 AMThe rich get richer in America.  The poor get poorer.  Those in the middle are just dopes being roped along

How does she not burst into flames while speaking?

https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/2044508807171121516
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: tower912 on April 15, 2026, 03:20:49 PM
Merely alternative facts.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 15, 2026, 03:21:14 PM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on April 15, 2026, 03:15:28 PMHow does she not burst into flames while speaking?

https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/2044508807171121516

If there is a heaven or hell, she's going to be toasty for eternity.  Selling your faith and lying for a false prophet probably won't work well at the Pearly Gates.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on April 15, 2026, 05:21:21 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 15, 2026, 03:21:14 PMIf there is a heaven or hell, she's going to be toasty for eternity.  Selling your faith and lying for a false prophet probably won't work well at the Pearly Gates.

Dr. Jesus won't let that happen to her.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on April 15, 2026, 05:51:47 PM
Quote from: MU82 on April 15, 2026, 05:21:21 PMDr. Jesus won't let that happen to her.

What's amusing about your post is that most MAGA would lose their minds if they were scheduled to see a "Dr. Jesus."
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: tower912 on April 15, 2026, 05:59:19 PM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on April 15, 2026, 05:51:47 PMWhat's amusing about your post is that most MAGA would lose their minds if they were scheduled to see a "Dr. Jesus."
'Lose their minds'


Too late.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 15, 2026, 06:42:57 PM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on April 15, 2026, 05:51:47 PMWhat's amusing about your post is that most MAGA would lose their minds if they were scheduled to see a "Dr. Jesus."

I always do a background check on my dentists to make sure they aren't Marquette grads, so I get it
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on April 16, 2026, 08:02:13 AM
That time when the Christian nationalist quoted a fake Bible verse written by Quentin Tarantino.

Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth read a fake Bible quote from Quentin Tarantino's 1994 movie Pulp Fiction during a prayer service at the Pentagon on Wednesday.

Discussing the Sandy 1 rescue mission of a downed pilot in Iran this month, Hegseth (as first flagged by A Public Witness, a religion-themed Substack) urged his audience to join him in a prayer, which he claims was delivered at the beginning of the mission.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/pray-please-pete-hegseth-reads-114001144.html
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 16, 2026, 08:03:54 AM
Quote from: Pakuni on April 16, 2026, 08:02:13 AMThat time when the Christian nationalist quoted a fake Bible verse written by Quentin Tarantino.

Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth read a fake Bible quote from Quentin Tarantino's 1994 movie Pulp Fiction during a prayer service at the Pentagon on Wednesday.

Discussing the Sandy 1 rescue mission of a downed pilot in Iran this month, Hegseth (as first flagged by A Public Witness, a religion-themed Substack) urged his audience to join him in a prayer, which he claims was delivered at the beginning of the mission.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/pray-please-pete-hegseth-reads-114001144.html

Wow, a phony right wing Christian?  Shocking, I say.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on April 16, 2026, 08:37:06 AM
Quote from: Pakuni on April 16, 2026, 08:02:13 AMThat time when the Christian nationalist quoted a fake Bible verse written by Quentin Tarantino.

Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth read a fake Bible quote from Quentin Tarantino's 1994 movie Pulp Fiction during a prayer service at the Pentagon on Wednesday.

Discussing the Sandy 1 rescue mission of a downed pilot in Iran this month, Hegseth (as first flagged by A Public Witness, a religion-themed Substack) urged his audience to join him in a prayer, which he claims was delivered at the beginning of the mission.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/pray-please-pete-hegseth-reads-114001144.html

Meh. I'm not going to get on him too much for that. He obviously got into the Communion wine a bit early and was confused.

https://x.com/jonathanchait/status/2044751676414771345
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on April 16, 2026, 08:42:26 AM
Quote from: Pakuni on April 16, 2026, 08:02:13 AMThat time when the Christian nationalist quoted a fake Bible verse written by Quentin Tarantino.

Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth read a fake Bible quote from Quentin Tarantino's 1994 movie Pulp Fiction during a prayer service at the Pentagon on Wednesday.

Discussing the Sandy 1 rescue mission of a downed pilot in Iran this month, Hegseth (as first flagged by A Public Witness, a religion-themed Substack) urged his audience to join him in a prayer, which he claims was delivered at the beginning of the mission.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/pray-please-pete-hegseth-reads-114001144.html

It was the Doctor Jesus version of the Bible. Our great theologian
-in-chief does more than just eat McDonald's and assault little girls.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 16, 2026, 10:58:02 AM
Pope dropping bombs on hillbillies

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2026/04/16/pope-leo-new-remarks-feud-trump/89639405007/
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Spotcheck Billy on April 16, 2026, 11:00:26 AM
Quote from: Jockey on April 16, 2026, 08:42:26 AMIt was the Doctor Jesus version of the Bible. Our great theologian
-in-chief does more than just eat McDonald's and assault little girls.
https://x.com/franciswegner/status/2043890109997527334
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: The Sultan on April 16, 2026, 11:04:59 AM
Pope Woke I today:

"The world is being ravaged by a handful of tyrants. Blessed are the peacemakers, but woe to those who manipulate religion and the name of God for their own military, economic and political gain, dragging that which is sacred into darkness and filth."
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: tower912 on April 16, 2026, 11:13:01 AM
Blessed are the peacemakers is a gospel quote.

I have a personal mental wager how long it takes him to say some version of my philosophy. 

Anybody trying to make me despair, hate, or fear in God's name is wrong and has seriously missed the point of the gospels.

I usually add ...'and can go f themselves'.   I doubt he adds that part.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on April 16, 2026, 11:18:50 AM
Quote from: Spotcheck Billy on April 16, 2026, 11:00:26 AMhttps://x.com/franciswegner/status/2043890109997527334


Priceless!
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on April 16, 2026, 03:27:41 PM
In his "you all better pray or else" session today, Pete Kegger recited almost word for word a scene from Pulp Fiction.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 16, 2026, 05:15:33 PM
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2026/04/16/iran-war-mail-packages-middle-east/89609308007/

Respect the troops.  Those announcements at sporting events highlighting a troop make up for this at least.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 16, 2026, 05:43:46 PM
https://bsky.app/profile/fintwitter.bsky.social/post/3mjnccdbpow23

Well, duh.  Netanyahu is a war criminal
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 17, 2026, 07:31:51 AM
https://bsky.app/profile/weedle.bsky.social/post/3mjnm6aqy6c2c
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: cheebs09 on April 17, 2026, 08:36:57 AM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 17, 2026, 07:31:51 AMhttps://bsky.app/profile/weedle.bsky.social/post/3mjnm6aqy6c2c

That's fine. Isn't "Support the Troops" just clapping at a sporting event, standing for the National Anthem, and maybe a bumper sticker for your truck?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Hards Alumni on April 17, 2026, 08:37:46 AM
Quote from: cheebs09 on April 17, 2026, 08:36:57 AMThat's fine. Isn't "Support the Troops" just clapping at a sporting event, standing for the National Anthem, and maybe a bumper sticker for your truck?

Oh, you mean 'virtue signaling'?   ;D
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on April 17, 2026, 10:11:51 AM
The Strait is open* thanks to our Dear Leader. It only cost $20 billion of US taxpayer money, pennies compared the $400 million of Iranian money Tan Suit Hussein Obama gave Iran. Praise be to our Dear Leader (TRUMP 6:66)!

https://www.axios.com/2026/04/17/iran-us-deal-20-billion-frozen-funds-uranium

*"Open" being subjective:

https://x.com/yarotrof/status/2045134808066466302
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on April 17, 2026, 12:17:09 PM
Yeah, but at least 13 U.S. soldiers are dead and hundreds more are injured to re-open a Strait that was fully open 8 weeks ago. So Capt. Bone Spur has that going for him.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on April 17, 2026, 01:05:44 PM
Quote from: MU82 on April 17, 2026, 12:17:09 PMYeah, but at least 13 U.S. soldiers are dead and hundreds more are injured to re-open a Strait that was fully open 8 weeks ago. So Capt. Bone Spur has that going for him.

yet another war he's ended!
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 17, 2026, 04:30:05 PM
Checkmate, woke Pope

https://bsky.app/profile/matthew.flux.community/post/3mjpq52po222h
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on April 18, 2026, 07:46:18 AM
More winning

https://x.com/i/status/2045474864543215816
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on April 18, 2026, 07:58:21 AM
At least we're winning.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 18, 2026, 08:45:37 AM
Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on April 18, 2026, 07:58:21 AMAt least we're winning.

If you count how many times we've won this war, Cheeto Jesus has now ended 69 wars
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 18, 2026, 09:02:35 AM
Cheeto Jesus:

"When you see soldiers walking around with no legs, that was Iran that did that."

Reporter:

"You told me earlier that everything has been agreed to.  Iran was saying something different.  So what has been worked out?"

Cheeto Jesus:

"They have people they have to cater to, also.  I really don't" (take that, American citizens)
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on April 18, 2026, 09:10:47 AM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on April 18, 2026, 07:46:18 AMMore winning

https://x.com/i/status/2045474864543215816

Except it wasn't even open just cuz Dr. Jesus said it was.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: cheebs09 on April 18, 2026, 09:13:37 AM
Quote from: Jockey on April 18, 2026, 09:10:47 AMExcept it wasn't even open just cuz Dr. Jesus said it was.

Feels like this is just the Market Manipulation Presidency.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 18, 2026, 09:32:06 AM
Quote from: cheebs09 on April 18, 2026, 09:13:37 AMFeels like this is just the Market Manipulation Presidency.

Feels like it?!?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: tower912 on April 18, 2026, 09:37:44 AM
The grift that keeps on giving.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on April 18, 2026, 09:59:53 AM
Quote from: cheebs09 on April 18, 2026, 09:13:37 AMFeels like this is just the Market Manipulation Presidency.

you have no proof of that. It's just your TDS showing through

https://x.com/unusual_whales/status/2045234341685387321
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: pbiflyer on April 18, 2026, 10:06:09 AM
One commenter on the Strait of Hormuz being closed again:

"its like the mcdonalds icecream machine, sometimes there is a rumor that it works, you rush to the place, but by the time you get there it is broken again."
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on April 18, 2026, 10:14:52 AM
From 1987


(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS2_9kdPYwhuSzoQit-zgPhHCTg5CPfOR4hJg&s)
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: forgetful on April 18, 2026, 01:48:38 PM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on April 18, 2026, 07:46:18 AMMore winning

https://x.com/i/status/2045474864543215816

This was entirely predictable. Iran isn't going to open the strait to everyone in the world except for them.

And, a blockade is an act of war, which is weird for the US to initiate during a ceasefire, especially if the actual goal is to open the strait.

It's almost as if all the words, on a Friday were to manipulate the market.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Spaniel with a Short Tail on April 18, 2026, 04:10:56 PM
Quote from: pbiflyer on April 18, 2026, 10:06:09 AMOne commenter on the Strait of Hormuz being closed again:

"its like the mcdonalds icecream machine, sometimes there is a rumor that it works, you rush to the place, but by the time you get there it is broken again."

(https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2021-09/2/22/enhanced/2f1f372d1ed9/original-1063-1630623181-5.jpg)
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: #UnleashThePortal on April 19, 2026, 09:42:27 AM
(http://media2.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTZjMDliOTUyYWs3cjI2eDB3aGh6MTU0NHRnc3pjeDBnamltaHhvbG5sNjJqOG5zbyZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/BmKLItgwfoHbcvVf8n/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on April 19, 2026, 10:55:35 AM
From the Axios e-newsletter:

Chinese President Xi Jinping has spent the Iran war doing what he does best — patiently exploiting America's distraction and discord, Axios' Jim VandeHei writes in a "Behind the Curtain" column.

Why it matters: The conflict allowed China to bolster its diplomatic leverage, clean-energy muscle and intelligence on the U.S. military — all without firing a shot or spending a dollar.

The implications touch supply chains, energy procurement, geopolitical risk, and the race for superior AI and weaponry.

Even with progress toward a framework for peace between the U.S. and Iran, significant disruptions continue in the Strait of Hormuz. The strategic damage is done.

🪖 The military impact is the part that should scare the hell out of Pentagon planners:

The U.S. committed roughly 80% of its JASSM-ER stealth cruise missile inventory to the Iran fight, pulling stockpiles from the Pacific to feed it. The conflict significantly depleted U.S. supplies of Tomahawk and Patriot missiles, THAAD interceptors and drones.

Beijing got a free masterclass in modern American warfighting: how we use AI to target, how we rotate carrier groups, how cheap Iranian drones drain our most expensive interceptors. For Chinese war planners gaming out a Taiwan invasion, it's better than any simulation.

🛢� On energy, China emerges a huge winner of the ongoing Hormuz shockwaves:

When oil and gas supplies get weaponized, import-dependent countries accelerate renewables. China owns over 70% of global solar, wind, battery and electric vehicle supply chains. The longer Hormuz stays disrupted, the deeper the world's dependency gets.

The war was the stress test that Beijing's energy strategy was designed for.

💼 The diplomatic optics couldn't have been better for the Chinese:

While Trump was threatening to bomb Iran "back to the Stone Ages," Beijing was quietly helping Pakistan bring both sides to the table in Islamabad — while capitals from Riyadh to Jakarta are weighing which superpower to align with.

As Ian Bremmer points out, America's allies saw the U.S. pull missile defense assets from South Korea, leave allies in Asia without Patriot coverage, and shift naval power from the Pacific to the Gulf. The message received in Seoul, Tokyo, Canberra and Taipei: American security commitments have an asterisk.

🦾 China's AI push got a clear boost from the war's financial consequences:

The Gulf's massive AI buildout — billions from Microsoft, Oracle, Nvidia and others — faces indefinite geopolitical risk after Iranian strikes on AI-related targets across the region.

🧲 The rare earths piece, out of sight for most Americans, might be Beijing's biggest asset right now:

There's currently no heavy rare-earth separation capacity in the U.S. at meaningful scale. China controls roughly 70% of rare-earth mining and 90% of separation and magnet manufacturing. New Pentagon procurement rules banning Chinese-sourced rare earths take effect in 2027 — but domestic alternatives won't be ready for years.

The weapons the U.S. fired in Iran — Tomahawks, JDAMs, Predator drones — all require rare earths for their precision guidance systems.

The bottom line: The country that may have gained the most from the Iran war never fired a shot.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 19, 2026, 12:49:36 PM
Quote from: MU82 on April 19, 2026, 10:55:35 AMFrom the Axios e-newsletter:

Chinese President Xi Jinping has spent the Iran war doing what he does best — patiently exploiting America's distraction and discord, Axios' Jim VandeHei writes in a "Behind the Curtain" column.

Why it matters: The conflict allowed China to bolster its diplomatic leverage, clean-energy muscle and intelligence on the U.S. military — all without firing a shot or spending a dollar.

The implications touch supply chains, energy procurement, geopolitical risk, and the race for superior AI and weaponry.

Even with progress toward a framework for peace between the U.S. and Iran, significant disruptions continue in the Strait of Hormuz. The strategic damage is done.

🪖 The military impact is the part that should scare the hell out of Pentagon planners:

The U.S. committed roughly 80% of its JASSM-ER stealth cruise missile inventory to the Iran fight, pulling stockpiles from the Pacific to feed it. The conflict significantly depleted U.S. supplies of Tomahawk and Patriot missiles, THAAD interceptors and drones.

Beijing got a free masterclass in modern American warfighting: how we use AI to target, how we rotate carrier groups, how cheap Iranian drones drain our most expensive interceptors. For Chinese war planners gaming out a Taiwan invasion, it's better than any simulation.

🛢� On energy, China emerges a huge winner of the ongoing Hormuz shockwaves:

When oil and gas supplies get weaponized, import-dependent countries accelerate renewables. China owns over 70% of global solar, wind, battery and electric vehicle supply chains. The longer Hormuz stays disrupted, the deeper the world's dependency gets.

The war was the stress test that Beijing's energy strategy was designed for.

💼 The diplomatic optics couldn't have been better for the Chinese:

While Trump was threatening to bomb Iran "back to the Stone Ages," Beijing was quietly helping Pakistan bring both sides to the table in Islamabad — while capitals from Riyadh to Jakarta are weighing which superpower to align with.

As Ian Bremmer points out, America's allies saw the U.S. pull missile defense assets from South Korea, leave allies in Asia without Patriot coverage, and shift naval power from the Pacific to the Gulf. The message received in Seoul, Tokyo, Canberra and Taipei: American security commitments have an asterisk.

🦾 China's AI push got a clear boost from the war's financial consequences:

The Gulf's massive AI buildout — billions from Microsoft, Oracle, Nvidia and others — faces indefinite geopolitical risk after Iranian strikes on AI-related targets across the region.

🧲 The rare earths piece, out of sight for most Americans, might be Beijing's biggest asset right now:

There's currently no heavy rare-earth separation capacity in the U.S. at meaningful scale. China controls roughly 70% of rare-earth mining and 90% of separation and magnet manufacturing. New Pentagon procurement rules banning Chinese-sourced rare earths take effect in 2027 — but domestic alternatives won't be ready for years.

The weapons the U.S. fired in Iran — Tomahawks, JDAMs, Predator drones — all require rare earths for their precision guidance systems.

The bottom line: The country that may have gained the most from the Iran war never fired a shot.

At least I can drive my fully loaded, full size truck to the business park to own the libs. 

As for rare earths, ever hear about the Art of the Deal, pal?

We may destroy our nations reputation, alienate allies, destroy the environment and drive up costs to our fellow citizens, but that soy matcha latte drinking, bike riding libtard has tears in his eye.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on April 19, 2026, 02:40:49 PM
Quote from: MU82 on April 19, 2026, 10:55:35 AMFrom the Axios e-newsletter:

Chinese President Xi Jinping has spent the Iran war doing what he does best — patiently exploiting America's distraction and discord, Axios' Jim VandeHei writes in a "Behind the Curtain" column.

Why it matters: The conflict allowed China to bolster its diplomatic leverage, clean-energy muscle and intelligence on the U.S. military — all without firing a shot or spending a dollar.

The implications touch supply chains, energy procurement, geopolitical risk, and the race for superior AI and weaponry.

Even with progress toward a framework for peace between the U.S. and Iran, significant disruptions continue in the Strait of Hormuz. The strategic damage is done.

🪖 The military impact is the part that should scare the hell out of Pentagon planners:

The U.S. committed roughly 80% of its JASSM-ER stealth cruise missile inventory to the Iran fight, pulling stockpiles from the Pacific to feed it. The conflict significantly depleted U.S. supplies of Tomahawk and Patriot missiles, THAAD interceptors and drones.

Beijing got a free masterclass in modern American warfighting: how we use AI to target, how we rotate carrier groups, how cheap Iranian drones drain our most expensive interceptors. For Chinese war planners gaming out a Taiwan invasion, it's better than any simulation.

🛢� On energy, China emerges a huge winner of the ongoing Hormuz shockwaves:

When oil and gas supplies get weaponized, import-dependent countries accelerate renewables. China owns over 70% of global solar, wind, battery and electric vehicle supply chains. The longer Hormuz stays disrupted, the deeper the world's dependency gets.

The war was the stress test that Beijing's energy strategy was designed for.

💼 The diplomatic optics couldn't have been better for the Chinese:

While Trump was threatening to bomb Iran "back to the Stone Ages," Beijing was quietly helping Pakistan bring both sides to the table in Islamabad — while capitals from Riyadh to Jakarta are weighing which superpower to align with.

As Ian Bremmer points out, America's allies saw the U.S. pull missile defense assets from South Korea, leave allies in Asia without Patriot coverage, and shift naval power from the Pacific to the Gulf. The message received in Seoul, Tokyo, Canberra and Taipei: American security commitments have an asterisk.

🦾 China's AI push got a clear boost from the war's financial consequences:

The Gulf's massive AI buildout — billions from Microsoft, Oracle, Nvidia and others — faces indefinite geopolitical risk after Iranian strikes on AI-related targets across the region.

🧲 The rare earths piece, out of sight for most Americans, might be Beijing's biggest asset right now:

There's currently no heavy rare-earth separation capacity in the U.S. at meaningful scale. China controls roughly 70% of rare-earth mining and 90% of separation and magnet manufacturing. New Pentagon procurement rules banning Chinese-sourced rare earths take effect in 2027 — but domestic alternatives won't be ready for years.

The weapons the U.S. fired in Iran — Tomahawks, JDAMs, Predator drones — all require rare earths for their precision guidance systems.

The bottom line: The country that may have gained the most from the Iran war never fired a shot.

I love our winning streak.
This is so great.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on April 19, 2026, 02:49:16 PM
Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on April 19, 2026, 02:40:49 PMI love our winning streak.
This is so great.

Yup. This noble Iran war is making China and Russia great again.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 19, 2026, 03:40:38 PM
Good job, America

https://bsky.app/profile/meidastouch.com/post/3mjua7xopkc2b
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: pbiflyer on April 19, 2026, 04:28:14 PM
As a bugs bunny fan, This is awesome.

https://x.com/grrrgraphics/status/2045651395005849848?s=46&t=wj-kQtLCLPNb9xDTKbHRvQ
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 20, 2026, 07:13:43 AM
Tough break for evangelicals

https://bsky.app/profile/implausibleblog.bsky.social/post/3mjwekgvwys2l
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 20, 2026, 07:14:42 AM
I'm shocked

https://bsky.app/profile/fintwitter.bsky.social/post/3mjwe7lry532d
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: tower912 on April 20, 2026, 07:19:51 AM
I have to believe that is making way for the MAGA Jesus iconography.  Just being efficient.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: pbiflyer on April 20, 2026, 08:11:16 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HGS1j51WcAATSXm?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on April 20, 2026, 10:34:39 AM
Iran Says Hormuz Strait Will Close Two Years for Renovations

TEHRAN (The Borowitz Report)—In a major setback for Donald J. Trump, on Monday Iran announced that the Strait of Hormuz will be closed the next two years for renovations.

The Strait of Hormuz board, packed with cronies of Iran's Supreme Leader, Mojtaba Khamenei, also approved a plan to put Khamenei's name on the renovated waterway.

"The Khamenei Strait of Hormuz will be the biggest and most beautiful trade chokepoint EVER!" the ayatollah announced in a social media post.

In the same post, he indicated that the renovated strait would have a "world-class toll booth" fitted with marble armrests "unlike anything ever done or seen before!"

https://www.borowitzreport.com/p/iran-says-hormuz-strait-will-close?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email&triedRedirect=true
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 20, 2026, 10:46:44 AM
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on April 20, 2026, 10:34:39 AMIran Says Hormuz Strait Will Close Two Years for Renovations

TEHRAN (The Borowitz Report)—In a major setback for Donald J. Trump, on Monday Iran announced that the Strait of Hormuz will be closed the next two years for renovations.

The Strait of Hormuz board, packed with cronies of Iran's Supreme Leader, Mojtaba Khamenei, also approved a plan to put Khamenei's name on the renovated waterway.

"The Khamenei Strait of Hormuz will be the biggest and most beautiful trade chokepoint EVER!" the ayatollah announced in a social media post.

In the same post, he indicated that the renovated strait would have a "world-class toll booth" fitted with marble armrests "unlike anything ever done or seen before!"

https://www.borowitzreport.com/p/iran-says-hormuz-strait-will-close?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email&triedRedirect=true

Entirely possible those at 1600 will take this serious.  I put it at 50/50 it gets a response on Truth Socially Inept
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on April 21, 2026, 09:48:00 AM
USA, er, UAE first policy, amirite?

https://www.investing.com/news/economy-news/trump-says-mulling-currency-swap-with-uae-amid-iran-war-fallout-93CH-4626535

"I'm surprised, because they are really rich," Trump said, adding: "They're very good for this country, so yeah, if I could help them, I would."
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on April 21, 2026, 09:54:53 AM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on April 21, 2026, 09:48:00 AMUSA, er, UAE first policy, amirite?

https://www.investing.com/news/economy-news/trump-says-mulling-currency-swap-with-uae-amid-iran-war-fallout-93CH-4626535

"I'm surprised, because they are really rich," Trump said, adding: "They're very good for this country, so yeah, if I could help them, I would."


There are kickbacks to Dr. Jesus' crime family involved for sure.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 21, 2026, 12:33:12 PM
The Couch Humper will not be going to Islamabad to negotiate with Iran.  Peace talks are on hold.  Look for war crimes to resume shortly.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: cheebs09 on April 21, 2026, 12:35:40 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 21, 2026, 12:33:12 PMThe Couch Humper will not be going to Islamabad to negotiate with Iran.  Peace talks are on hold.  Look for war crimes to resume shortly.

I hope he doesn't detour to the Vatican to settle that feud.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 21, 2026, 12:44:09 PM
Quote from: cheebs09 on April 21, 2026, 12:35:40 PMI hope he doesn't detour to the Vatican to settle that feud.

Oh, I think the days of the Pope meeting with him are long over
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: rocky_warrior on April 21, 2026, 12:55:57 PM
This appears to be more art than deal.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on April 21, 2026, 01:01:03 PM
Quote from: rocky_warrior on April 21, 2026, 12:55:57 PMThis appears to be more art than deal.

In a Jackson Pollock kind of way. Just throwing it around and seeing where it sticks.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TallTitan34 on April 21, 2026, 04:30:29 PM
Happy Taco Tuesday!

Trump is extending the ceasefire.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 21, 2026, 04:53:39 PM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on April 21, 2026, 04:30:29 PMHappy Taco Tuesday!

Trump is extending the ceasefire.

Somebody is getting richer!
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on April 22, 2026, 10:03:59 AM
remember, we're no longer the laughingstock of the world now that Dear Leader is back in charge:

https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/2046960297622065283
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on April 22, 2026, 10:09:22 AM
This is what happens when a narcissist pedophile is your President.

A deal to end the Iran war seemed close. Then Trump started posting on social media
https://www.cnn.com/2026/04/20/politics/social-media-posts-trump-iran-deal

"As the weekend approached, the US and Iran appeared to be closing in on a deal to end the seven-week war.

Then President Donald Trump did exactly what his staffers have repeatedly said they wouldn't do: He seemed to try negotiating via the press, posting about ongoing talks on social media and speaking to several reporters by phone Friday morning as Pakistani intermediaries updated him on ongoing talks with Iranian officials in Tehran.

He claimed Iran had agreed to a host of provisions that sources familiar with the talks said have not yet been finalized. He also asserted that Tehran had agreed to many of the most contentious US demands — including handing over the enriched uranium — and declared an imminent end to the war."
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 22, 2026, 10:51:06 AM
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on April 22, 2026, 10:09:22 AMThis is what happens when a narcissist pedophile is your President.

A deal to end the Iran war seemed close. Then Trump started posting on social media
https://www.cnn.com/2026/04/20/politics/social-media-posts-trump-iran-deal

"As the weekend approached, the US and Iran appeared to be closing in on a deal to end the seven-week war.

Then President Donald Trump did exactly what his staffers have repeatedly said they wouldn't do: He seemed to try negotiating via the press, posting about ongoing talks on social media and speaking to several reporters by phone Friday morning as Pakistani intermediaries updated him on ongoing talks with Iranian officials in Tehran.

He claimed Iran had agreed to a host of provisions that sources familiar with the talks said have not yet been finalized. He also asserted that Tehran had agreed to many of the most contentious US demands — including handing over the enriched uranium — and declared an imminent end to the war."

Whenever you feel blue about Marquette basketball, it's good to remind of how bad real life is
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on April 22, 2026, 10:56:59 AM
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on April 22, 2026, 10:09:22 AMThis is what happens when a narcissist pedophile is your President.

A deal to end the Iran war seemed close. Then Trump started posting on social media
https://www.cnn.com/2026/04/20/politics/social-media-posts-trump-iran-deal

"As the weekend approached, the US and Iran appeared to be closing in on a deal to end the seven-week war.

Then President Donald Trump did exactly what his staffers have repeatedly said they wouldn't do: He seemed to try negotiating via the press, posting about ongoing talks on social media and speaking to several reporters by phone Friday morning as Pakistani intermediaries updated him on ongoing talks with Iranian officials in Tehran.

He claimed Iran had agreed to a host of provisions that sources familiar with the talks said have not yet been finalized. He also asserted that Tehran had agreed to many of the most contentious US demands — including handing over the enriched uranium — and declared an imminent end to the war."

I had a 5-year-old nephew who wouldn't shut up. Blah blah blah blah blah. He was always prattling on, never a moment of silence.

But he had an excuse: He was 5.

And he also grew up to become relatively normal.

What is Dr. Jesus' excuse? And why hasn't he ever grown up?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on April 22, 2026, 12:21:18 PM
Quote from: MU82 on April 22, 2026, 10:56:59 AMI had a 5-year-old nephew who wouldn't shut up. Blah blah blah blah blah. He was always prattling on, never a moment of silence.

But he had an excuse: He was 5.

And he also grew up to become relatively normal.

What is Dr. Jesus' excuse? And why hasn't he ever grown up?

when my mom had Frontotemporal Dementia, she didn't lose her memory, but it affected her behavior. There were times when she'd be rambling and angry, calling people about stuff, a burst of energy (the hospice nurse referred to it as a "terminal rally"). Seems like what we're seeing from Dear Leader. Time for a PAR test for him...for the good of the country, of course, so how could any real patriot refuse?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on April 22, 2026, 01:51:38 PM
give the man the Nobel. He just saved the lives of 8 AI generated female protesters

https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/2047008309165600887

BTW, the actual story about the real women is they reportedly (not confirmed though) had already been spared execution, some were released, and others are going to jail instead.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Pakuni on April 22, 2026, 04:49:35 PM
Clown show.

https://x.com/SeanParnellASW/status/2047064432564482188?s=20
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on April 22, 2026, 05:07:39 PM
Who needs people with actual knowledge of how the U.S. military functions when we have Capt. Bone Spur and Korporal Kegger?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 22, 2026, 06:01:03 PM
Quote from: MU82 on April 22, 2026, 05:07:39 PMWho needs people with actual knowledge of how the U.S. military functions when we have Capt. Bone Spur and Korporal Kegger?

Believe me, no one knows more about naval than President Trump.  Many strong seamen have come up and said,

"Sir you know so much about the Naval" and cried
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on April 22, 2026, 07:11:11 PM
Quote from: MU82 on April 22, 2026, 05:07:39 PMWho needs people with actual knowledge of how the U.S. military functions when we have Capt. Bone Spur and Korporal Kegger?

Don't forget that Barron will be appointed as a General any day now. And Melania will become an official Navy Escort.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: pbiflyer on April 23, 2026, 07:39:10 AM
Thank goodness Gaza is finally getting desperately needed aid from a Good Samaritan.

The Taliban: 530 Tons of Essential Aid Sent to Gaza
https://8am.media/eng/taliban-gaza-aid-530-tons/
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: jesmu84 on April 23, 2026, 08:31:13 AM
Quote from: pbiflyer on April 23, 2026, 07:39:10 AMThank goodness Gaza is finally getting desperately needed aid from a Good Samaritan.

The Taliban: 530 Tons of Essential Aid Sent to Gaza
https://8am.media/eng/taliban-gaza-aid-530-tons/

Don't worry, it will be blocked or stolen by Israelis
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on April 23, 2026, 09:35:09 AM
I'm just bummed that Caedin Hamilton keeps making this war worse.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on April 23, 2026, 10:40:44 AM
(https://ecp.yusercontent.com/mail?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgraphics.axios.com%2Fhermesv2%2F2026-04-22-1118-barrels-of-strategic%2Ffallbacks%2F2026-04-22-1118-barrels-of-strategic-fallback.png&t=1776952526&ymreqid=3c8d0d78-3338-e941-1c36-880981013800&sig=yjXhOKxlYKOv1rSnYquNsg--~D)

From Axios:

China has far more oil stashed away than any other country — giving it a strategic edge during the biggest oil shock in history, new U.S. government data shows.

Why it matters: China is a huge winner in the Iran war, due in large part to energy, including its oil stockpile. China also owns over 70% of the global solar, wind, battery and EV supply chains.

Those are all seeing a boost as import-dependent countries turn from oil and natural gas to renewables.


MCGA!
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on April 23, 2026, 11:01:07 AM
China, Russia (especially), war criminal Bibi, and the IRG big winners. Everyone else big losers.

Trump once again does exactly what his handler wants him to do.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: The Sultan on April 23, 2026, 11:05:01 AM
Quote from: MU82 on April 23, 2026, 10:40:44 AM(https://ecp.yusercontent.com/mail?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgraphics.axios.com%2Fhermesv2%2F2026-04-22-1118-barrels-of-strategic%2Ffallbacks%2F2026-04-22-1118-barrels-of-strategic-fallback.png&t=1776952526&ymreqid=3c8d0d78-3338-e941-1c36-880981013800&sig=yjXhOKxlYKOv1rSnYquNsg--~D)

From Axios:

China has far more oil stashed away than any other country — giving it a strategic edge during the biggest oil shock in history, new U.S. government data shows.

Why it matters: China is a huge winner in the Iran war, due in large part to energy, including its oil stockpile. China also owns over 70% of the global solar, wind, battery and EV supply chains.

Those are all seeing a boost as import-dependent countries turn from oil and natural gas to renewables.


MCGA!

This isn't that big of a deal since we have four times as many untapped oil reserves as China, and largely control the oil production of Venezuela on top of that.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on April 23, 2026, 11:09:48 AM
Quote from: The Sultan on April 23, 2026, 11:05:01 AMThis isn't that big of a deal since we have four times as many untapped oil reserves as China, and largely control the oil production of Venezuela on top of that.

If it were as easy as just turning the spigot on.

And the Venezuelan oil is going straight into Trump's offshore account.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: The Sultan on April 23, 2026, 11:18:40 AM
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on April 23, 2026, 11:09:48 AMIf it were as easy as just turning the spigot on.


China is much more reliant on a petroleum reserve than the United States is. China only produces a third of the oil they consume.

The United States produces pretty much exactly what it consumes - we import and export different types of crude because it is more economical to do so.

The fact that China has significantly more in reserves than the United States doesn't really mean anything more than they need it to meet demand.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 23, 2026, 11:50:58 AM
Quote from: The Sultan on April 23, 2026, 11:18:40 AMChina is much more reliant on a petroleum reserve than the United States is. China only produces a third of the oil they consume.

The United States produces pretty much exactly what it consumes - we import and export different types of crude because it is more economical to do so.

The fact that China has significantly more in reserves than the United States doesn't really mean anything more than they need it to meet demand.

Part of the reason China hasn't been afraid to pivot towards other forms of energy.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on April 23, 2026, 12:08:21 PM
Quote from: The Sultan on April 23, 2026, 11:18:40 AMChina is much more reliant on a petroleum reserve than the United States is. China only produces a third of the oil they consume.

The United States produces pretty much exactly what it consumes - we import and export different types of crude because it is more economical to do so.

The fact that China has significantly more in reserves than the United States doesn't really mean anything more than they need it to meet demand.

My point was, when you said the U.S. has 4x untapped reserves, is that production is relatively inelastic--it takes a long time to increase production meaningfully.

I agree the chart itself is meaningless without comparing the reserves to demand usage.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TallTitan34 on April 23, 2026, 12:37:51 PM
Quote from: MU82 on April 23, 2026, 10:40:44 AMChina also owns over 70% of the global solar, wind, battery and EV supply chains.

Those Chinese whales are f'd.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: The Sultan on April 23, 2026, 12:48:19 PM
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on April 23, 2026, 12:08:21 PMMy point was, when you said the U.S. has 4x untapped reserves, is that production is relatively inelastic--it takes a long time to increase production meaningfully.

I agree the chart itself is meaningless without comparing the reserves to demand usage.


We already produce more than we consume.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on April 23, 2026, 12:58:29 PM
Quote from: The Sultan on April 23, 2026, 12:48:19 PMWe already produce more than we consume.

Then having 4x untapped reserves is meaningless, right?

Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Hards Alumni on April 23, 2026, 01:51:03 PM
Quote from: MU82 on April 23, 2026, 10:40:44 AM(https://ecp.yusercontent.com/mail?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgraphics.axios.com%2Fhermesv2%2F2026-04-22-1118-barrels-of-strategic%2Ffallbacks%2F2026-04-22-1118-barrels-of-strategic-fallback.png&t=1776952526&ymreqid=3c8d0d78-3338-e941-1c36-880981013800&sig=yjXhOKxlYKOv1rSnYquNsg--~D)

From Axios:

China has far more oil stashed away than any other country — giving it a strategic edge during the biggest oil shock in history, new U.S. government data shows.

Why it matters: China is a huge winner in the Iran war, due in large part to energy, including its oil stockpile. China also owns over 70% of the global solar, wind, battery and EV supply chains.

Those are all seeing a boost as import-dependent countries turn from oil and natural gas to renewables.


MCGA!

Not sure I buy this.  China has little to no production of its own, and that reserve was from December.  They've certainly had to dip into it.  While the US doesn't have a large reserve that isn't a problem since we produce so much of our own.

One problem that China is sure to face is that with the draw down of their reserves, they may have to push back their invasion date of Taiwan... if they plan to even attempt it.

Good on China for recognizing their national weakness and swapping towards an economy based more on renewable energy, but their oil situation is definitely not enviable.  And the military runs on oil.

Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 23, 2026, 03:38:10 PM
https://bsky.app/profile/thebulwark.com/post/3mk6tfr2jgp2c

Don't write that I'm mad.  I'm not mad
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: The Sultan on April 23, 2026, 03:41:35 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 23, 2026, 03:38:10 PMhttps://bsky.app/profile/thebulwark.com/post/3mk6tfr2jgp2c

Don't write that I'm mad.  I'm not mad


Comparing this to Vietnam is a great polical strategy.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 23, 2026, 03:48:44 PM
Quote from: The Sultan on April 23, 2026, 03:41:35 PMComparing this to Vietnam is a great polical strategy.

Many strong army men have come up to him and said, "Sir, look how long Vietnam was thank you for ending that war" and then wept openly
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 23, 2026, 04:55:08 PM
How can Sleepy Donny lead us through a war?

https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3mk6r4rnofs2g
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on April 23, 2026, 05:02:24 PM
At least he had an exit strategy for Vietnam.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: tower912 on April 23, 2026, 05:03:47 PM
Yeah, now the spurs are spur of the moment.  Which is how a self-initiated war should be run.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: cheebs09 on April 23, 2026, 05:13:04 PM
Quote from: MU82 on April 23, 2026, 05:02:24 PMAt least he had an exit strategy for Vietnam.

How dare you overlook the personal Vietnam this Christian president battled on the front lines of in America. To put himself at risk for all those STD's and come out on the other side deserves our respect.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on April 23, 2026, 07:43:57 PM
Maybe it's just me, but I don't think alluding to Vietnam in comparison to your current war--essentially saying the current one isn't as long as Vietnam, yet--is a wise political strategy.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: rocky_warrior on April 23, 2026, 09:09:39 PM
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on April 23, 2026, 07:43:57 PMis a wise political strategy.

Lamest duck. DGAF
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 24, 2026, 05:55:57 AM
Quote from: rocky_warrior on April 23, 2026, 09:09:39 PMLamest duck. DGAF

Man, I hope so
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 24, 2026, 07:23:00 AM
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/iran-war-trump-uk-falklands-pentagon-email-b2964133.html

Going to take a lot of work to fix the mess this administration is making with our allies
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 24, 2026, 07:38:46 AM
Gin Diesel throwing allies under the bus.

https://bsky.app/profile/thebulwark.com/post/3mkajh5q73s2c

Why is he making these comments?

1. There was no coalition building outside of Israel leading up to this war.  Strategic blunder of epic proportions.  Instead of doing the diplomatic legwork, America acted alone expecting the world to applaud.  Indefensible strategy.  The type of thing historians will use as an example of poor planning centuries from now.  American hubris.

2. Concerns over arms shortages.  The deployment of missiles in this war have depleted our inventory.  We want other countries involved to preserve munitions.  We won't run out, we love bombs, but being able to take on China should they make a move in Taiwan?  Not feasible anymore.  Again, incompetent planning and strategy short term and long term. 

3. Any resolution as things stand now will be an embarrassing result for America throughout the world.  The only option to "save face" is to bomb more, depleting more inventory, or use ground troops as an invasion force resulting in nation building and more nightly news stories of dead soldiers.

Just a truly incompetent and embarrassing military strategy.  Will go down in history as one of the worst planned and executed military exercises.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 24, 2026, 08:10:34 AM
Lololololol

https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3mkallmf6lz2n
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Spaniel with a Short Tail on April 24, 2026, 08:33:50 AM
I have to believe there are people in the UK and France thinking, "We'll support the US in this conflict over the Strait of Hormuz in the same manner the US supported our countries in 1956 on the Suez Canal." I could sympathize with DJT's point about the lack of NATO support for this conflict if NATO had been in on this in the first place. But the US decided to do this on its own with Israel. If I was a UK citizen who's going to have to deal with all the negative economic fallout from the US actions, I doubt I would want my government to bail the US out. DJT got us into this mess on his own and now he needs to figure out how to get us out of it.

On another note, I knew next to nothing about Pete Hegseth before he joined the Cabinet but OMG what an embarrassment to our country. Do people really approve of all the posturing? Especially from the Secretary of Defense? It's mind boggling.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Hards Alumni on April 24, 2026, 09:18:50 AM
Quote from: Spaniel with a Short Tail on April 24, 2026, 08:33:50 AMI have to believe there are people in the UK and France thinking, "We'll support the US in this conflict over the Strait of Hormuz in the same manner the US supported our countries in 1956 on the Suez Canal." I could sympathize with DJT's point about the lack of NATO support for this conflict if NATO had been in on this in the first place. But the US decided to do this on its own with Israel. If I was a UK citizen who's going to have to deal with all the negative economic fallout from the US actions, I doubt I would want my government to bail the US out. DJT got us into this mess on his own and now he needs to figure out how to get us out of it.

On another note, I knew next to nothing about Pete Hegseth before he joined the Cabinet but OMG what an embarrassment to our country. Do people really approve of all the posturing? Especially from the Secretary of Defense? It's mind boggling.

NATO is a defensive alliance.  That is all that any of those countries should have said when Trump asked for help (that he didn't need, he says).  On the topic of getting us out of this mess.  He can't.  If he abandons the project (he should do this) he will have to answer what the point of the entire quagmire was.  There is no good answer to this question.  Israel forced him to do it, and enough people in the administration have wanted to go after Iran for decades, so they just YOLOed it.  There was/is no plan.  The only concept of a plan was to try to be a global bully, and that hasn't worked.  Iran punched back far harder than anyone in the Trump admin expected and now he's stuck.  Dropping more bombs or ruining Iran's infrastructure doesn't achieve any goals other than collective punishment of the civilian population.  Iran will still be able to launch drones, lay mines in the straight of Hormuz, and generally cause global financial chaos no matter how much ordinance the US military drops.  It was a fools errand from the start.  Trump likely thought he could get the same easy W in Iran that he got in Venezuela, and I absolutely believe that Bibi convinced him of this when they decided to start operation Epstein Fury.

Peter Hegseth and people like him should never be anywhere near serious government.  He was never ranked higher than a Major in the Army.  He had no previous Department of Defense experience either.  Meaning, he has no unnatural carnal knowledgeing clue what he is doing.  But he kissed ass, acted macho, and is a fool, so of course he should be The Secretary of Defense... I'm sorry, Secretary of War.  There has never been another person less qualified to hold this position, but that's nothing new to the Trump administration. 
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 24, 2026, 09:40:46 AM
Quote from: Hards Alumni on April 24, 2026, 09:18:50 AMNATO is a defensive alliance.  That is all that any of those countries should have said when Trump asked for help (that he didn't need, he says).  On the topic of getting us out of this mess.  He can't.  If he abandons the project (he should do this) he will have to answer what the point of the entire quagmire was.  There is no good answer to this question.  Israel forced him to do it, and enough people in the administration have wanted to go after Iran for decades, so they just YOLOed it.  There was/is no plan.  The only concept of a plan was to try to be a global bully, and that hasn't worked.  Iran punched back far harder than anyone in the Trump admin expected and now he's stuck.  Dropping more bombs or ruining Iran's infrastructure doesn't achieve any goals other than collective punishment of the civilian population.  Iran will still be able to launch drones, lay mines in the straight of Hormuz, and generally cause global financial chaos no matter how much ordinance the US military drops.  It was a fools errand from the start.  Trump likely thought he could get the same easy W in Iran that he got in Venezuela, and I absolutely believe that Bibi convinced him of this when they decided to start operation Epstein Fury.

Peter Hegseth and people like him should never be anywhere near serious government.  He was never ranked higher than a Major in the Army.  He had no previous Department of Defense experience either.  Meaning, he has no unnatural carnal knowledgeing clue what he is doing.  But he kissed ass, acted macho, and is a fool, so of course he should be The Secretary of Defense... I'm sorry, Secretary of War.  There has never been another person less qualified to hold this position, but that's nothing new to the Trump administration. 

Uhm, Administrative Assistant of War.  Don't call our very macho and tough Lead War guy a Secretary.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on April 24, 2026, 09:51:00 AM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 23, 2026, 03:48:44 PMMany strong army men have come up to him and said, "Sir, look how long Vietnam was thank you for ending that war" and then wept openly

Not only did he end the Vietnam war, he also ended the French war with Vietnam.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on April 24, 2026, 11:06:51 AM
Quote from: Hards Alumni on April 24, 2026, 09:18:50 AMNATO is a defensive alliance.  That is all that any of those countries should have said when Trump asked for help (that he didn't need, he says).  On the topic of getting us out of this mess.  He can't.  If he abandons the project (he should do this) he will have to answer what the point of the entire quagmire was.  There is no good answer to this question.  Israel forced him to do it, and enough people in the administration have wanted to go after Iran for decades, so they just YOLOed it.  There was/is no plan.  The only concept of a plan was to try to be a global bully, and that hasn't worked.  Iran punched back far harder than anyone in the Trump admin expected and now he's stuck.  Dropping more bombs or ruining Iran's infrastructure doesn't achieve any goals other than collective punishment of the civilian population.  Iran will still be able to launch drones, lay mines in the straight of Hormuz, and generally cause global financial chaos no matter how much ordinance the US military drops.  It was a fools errand from the start.  Trump likely thought he could get the same easy W in Iran that he got in Venezuela, and I absolutely believe that Bibi convinced him of this when they decided to start operation Epstein Fury.

Peter Hegseth and people like him should never be anywhere near serious government.  He was never ranked higher than a Major in the Army.  He had no previous Department of Defense experience either.  Meaning, he has no unnatural carnal knowledgeing clue what he is doing.  But he kissed ass, acted macho, and is a fool, so of course he should be The Secretary of Defense... I'm sorry, Secretary of War.  There has never been another person less qualified to hold this position, but that's nothing new to the Trump administration. 

Agree with everything here except "Israel forced him to do it."

As you said later, Bibi "convinced" him; that's more accurate IMHO. There was no gun at Capt. Bone Spur's head. He had a choice, it was his decision and his alone, and he made a terrible one. And now, as you said, there are no good solutions for him politically.

In the words of the great Bugs Bunny: What a maroon.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Hards Alumni on April 24, 2026, 11:16:00 AM
Quote from: MU82 on April 24, 2026, 11:06:51 AMAgree with everything here except "Israel forced him to do it."

As you said later, Bibi "convinced" him; that's more accurate IMHO. There was no gun at Capt. Bone Spur's head. He had a choice, it was his decision and his alone, and he made a terrible one. And now, as you said, there are no good solutions for him politically.

In the words of the great Bugs Bunny: What a maroon.

Oh, so you think that Israel doesn't have dirt on Trump?

You're crazy.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: The Sultan on April 24, 2026, 11:29:47 AM
Does "dirt on Trump" even matter to Trump anymore?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 24, 2026, 11:34:24 AM
Quote from: The Sultan on April 24, 2026, 11:29:47 AMDoes "dirt on Trump" even matter to Trump anymore?

Yes?  I think there are probably a few things he would prefer not out there.

Do I think his party would abandon him?  Absolutely not.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on April 24, 2026, 12:11:57 PM
Quote from: Hards Alumni on April 24, 2026, 11:16:00 AMOh, so you think that Israel doesn't have dirt on Trump?

You're crazy.

Until I am presented with evidence that he was "forced" (rather than "convinced") to go to war with Iran, I'm sticking with him simply having made yet another in an endless series of horrible decisions.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on April 24, 2026, 12:21:59 PM
Are you all tired of all of the winning yet?

https://www.cnn.com/2026/04/24/business/shortages-us-asia
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 24, 2026, 12:41:00 PM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on April 24, 2026, 12:21:59 PMAre you all tired of all of the winning yet?

https://www.cnn.com/2026/04/24/business/shortages-us-asia

If anyone thinks this administration is remotely prepared for this, please show me your math
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on April 24, 2026, 01:39:33 PM
Quote from: The Sultan on April 24, 2026, 11:29:47 AMDoes "dirt on Trump" even matter to Trump anymore?

Yeah. I was gonna say everybody has dirt on t-rump. He's a convicted sexual predator and a traitor. Why waste time digging?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 24, 2026, 01:40:36 PM
Quote from: Jockey on April 24, 2026, 01:39:33 PMYeah. I was gonna say everybody has dirt on t-rump. He's a convicted sexual predator and a traitor. Why waste time digging?

He reads the Bible, so he's fine
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 24, 2026, 06:22:06 PM
I guess that was mean
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on April 24, 2026, 06:37:49 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 24, 2026, 07:23:00 AMhttps://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/iran-war-trump-uk-falklands-pentagon-email-b2964133.html

Going to take a lot of work to fix the mess this administration is making with our allies

According to Kelly, Trump said he was going to leave NATO in his 2nd term--thus Rubio getting a bill passed that it would require Congressional approval. So it seems Trump is trying to get the US kicked out as a workaround, all to please his master Putin.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on April 24, 2026, 06:43:55 PM
Quote from: Hards Alumni on April 24, 2026, 09:18:50 AMNATO is a defensive alliance.  That is all that any of those countries should have said when Trump asked for help (that he didn't need, he says).  On the topic of getting us out of this mess.  He can't.  If he abandons the project (he should do this) he will have to answer what the point of the entire quagmire was.

I agree that is what he should do. Americans have the attention span of gnats and there will be 150 other scandals between now and the mid-terms that will make people forget about the conflict.

Quote from: Hards Alumni on April 24, 2026, 09:18:50 AMPeter Hegseth and people like him should never be anywhere near serious government.  He was never ranked higher than a Major in the Army.  He had no previous Department of Defense experience either.  Meaning, he has no unnatural carnal knowledgeing clue what he is doing. 

NO ONE in this administration was chosen for their competence. Like everyone else, Kegstand was chosen for his exquisite ability to kiss Trump's ass and because Trump thought he looked good on TV.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: pbiflyer on April 24, 2026, 11:22:53 PM
Quote from: jesmu84 on April 23, 2026, 08:31:13 AMDon't worry, it will be blocked or stolen by Israelis
Dude, that is a ridiculous position, nothing is going to happen to those...... never mind.

Israelis destroying supplies meant to help the starving people of Gaza.

https://x.com/YourAnonNews/status/2047713708701331869?s=20
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 25, 2026, 08:00:06 AM
Quote from: pbiflyer on April 24, 2026, 11:22:53 PMDude, that is a ridiculous position, nothing is going to happen to those...... never mind.

Israelis destroying supplies meant to help the starving people of Gaza.

https://x.com/YourAnonNews/status/2047713708701331869?s=20

Hopefully, cancer wins soon.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on April 25, 2026, 09:09:21 AM
Taking a well-earned rest after winning the Iran war 11 times already

(https://images2.imgbox.com/6d/0a/rbMpvHib_o.png) (https://imgbox.com/rbMpvHib)
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 25, 2026, 09:14:28 AM
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on April 25, 2026, 09:09:21 AMTaking a well-earned rest after winning the Iran war 11 times already

(https://images2.imgbox.com/6d/0a/rbMpvHib_o.png) (http://"https://imgbox.com/rbMpvHib")

Sleepy Joe at it again!
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: tower912 on April 25, 2026, 09:27:41 AM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 25, 2026, 09:14:28 AMSleepy Joe at it again!


Every accusation is a confession.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: forgetful on April 25, 2026, 11:55:58 AM
Quote from: pbiflyer on April 24, 2026, 11:22:53 PMDude, that is a ridiculous position, nothing is going to happen to those...... never mind.

Israelis destroying supplies meant to help the starving people of Gaza.

https://x.com/YourAnonNews/status/2047713708701331869?s=20

It's called genocide and the US and world are supporting it.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on April 25, 2026, 12:19:48 PM
Now, the incompetent U.S. negotiating team isn't going to Pakistan.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: forgetful on April 25, 2026, 12:27:30 PM
Quote from: MU82 on April 25, 2026, 12:19:48 PMNow, the incompetent U.S. negotiating team isn't going to Pakistan.

The fact that we keep trying to send incompetent businessmen to handle state business is a disgrace.

Scoop is as qualified to Witkoff and Kushner to lead such negotiations.

Both would likely be broke today if it wasn't for financing/investments secured to elicit political favors.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on April 25, 2026, 02:24:53 PM
American military bases and other equipment in the Persian Gulf region suffered extensive damage from Iranian strikes that is far worse than publicly acknowledged and is expected to cost billions of dollars to repair, according to three U.S. officials, two congressional aides and another person familiar with the damage.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on April 25, 2026, 05:27:55 PM
Wait ... I think we won the war again! 🎉
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 25, 2026, 06:18:19 PM
Quote from: Jockey on April 25, 2026, 02:24:53 PMAmerican military bases and other equipment in the Persian Gulf region suffered extensive damage from Iranian strikes that is far worse than publicly acknowledged and is expected to cost billions of dollars to repair, according to three U.S. officials, two congressional aides and another person familiar with the damage.

Ah, that why Gin Diesel attacked the press yesterday, knowing this story was coming and why Sleepy Joe is going to unload tonight. 

But this is what happens when incompetent buffoons are given positions of power. 
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 25, 2026, 06:20:35 PM
Quote from: forgetful on April 25, 2026, 11:55:58 AMIt's called genocide and the US and world are supporting it.

I'm trying to find one reason any so-called Christian would support this administration any further.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on April 26, 2026, 08:00:27 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 25, 2026, 06:20:35 PMI'm trying to find one reason any so-called Christian would support this administration any further.

You answered your own question. "So-called Christians".
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on April 28, 2026, 11:27:24 AM
Holy unnatural carnal knowledge.

"When you have lines of oil, through your system, if for any reason that line is closed because you can't continue to put it into containers or ships which has happened to them, what happens is that line explodes from within. Both mechanically and in the earth. Something happens where it just explodes, and they say they only have about three days left before that happens. And when it explodes, you can never rebuild it the way it was. In other words, it will always be — if you rebuild it, it's hard to rebuild it all, but it would only be about 50 percent of what it is right now. So it's a very powerful thing that takes place. sort of having to do with nature. When that gets clogged at the end, in other words, you have to turn it off because you have no place to store this oil, either put it on ships or storage plants which they are just about finished with, an already bad thing's going to happen."
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on April 28, 2026, 11:36:25 AM
The Idiocracy continues unabated.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TallTitan34 on April 28, 2026, 02:37:46 PM
https://x.com/spencerhakimian/status/2048953886078038466?s=46
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 28, 2026, 02:48:57 PM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on April 28, 2026, 02:37:46 PMhttps://x.com/spencerhakimian/status/2048953886078038466?s=46

Why hasn't he enlisted?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on April 28, 2026, 03:00:52 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 28, 2026, 02:48:57 PMWhy hasn't he enlisted?

Doesn't want to be fragged by his own men.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on April 28, 2026, 03:09:46 PM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on April 28, 2026, 02:37:46 PMhttps://x.com/spencerhakimian/status/2048953886078038466?s=46

Well, I hate to state the obvious, but Kid Rock is smarter than t-rump or the drunk. Not smart - just smarter than those 2.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 28, 2026, 03:32:12 PM
Quote from: Jockey on April 28, 2026, 03:09:46 PMWell, I hate to state the obvious, but Kid Rock is smarter than t-rump or the drunk. Not smart - just smarter than those 2.

I doubt he could be as good a General as the President.  Many strong army men have come up to the president and said, "Sir, you're so smart at war and strong in war stuff that we wish you were the general and we'd lick the enemy" and then openly wept and passed out in awe
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Shaka Shart on April 28, 2026, 07:01:37 PM
Make a wish for old drunk dudes
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: forgetful on April 28, 2026, 11:21:44 PM
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on April 28, 2026, 11:27:24 AMHoly unnatural carnal knowledge.

"When you have lines of oil, through your system, if for any reason that line is closed because you can't continue to put it into containers or ships which has happened to them, what happens is that line explodes from within. Both mechanically and in the earth. Something happens where it just explodes, and they say they only have about three days left before that happens. And when it explodes, you can never rebuild it the way it was. In other words, it will always be — if you rebuild it, it's hard to rebuild it all, but it would only be about 50 percent of what it is right now. So it's a very powerful thing that takes place. sort of having to do with nature. When that gets clogged at the end, in other words, you have to turn it off because you have no place to store this oil, either put it on ships or storage plants which they are just about finished with, an already bad thing's going to happen."

Sadly, I actually understand what he was trying to say. But the description would get a 0/10 on an essay.

What he also ignored is that right now, the disruptions are also risking all middle eastern countries shutting down wells, which would suffer possible long-term consequences.

A real dangerous game of chicken going on right now, with possible world-wide long term economic risk.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on April 29, 2026, 06:10:18 AM
Quote from: forgetful on April 28, 2026, 11:21:44 PMSadly, I actually understand what he was trying to say. But the description would get a 0/10 on an essay.

What he also ignored is that right now, the disruptions are also risking all middle eastern countries shutting down wells, which would suffer possible long-term consequences.

A real dangerous game of chicken going on right now, with possible world-wide long term economic risk.

As straightforward as your comment is, no one in the administration is capable of understanding it.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 29, 2026, 06:11:15 AM
Quote from: Jockey on April 29, 2026, 06:10:18 AMAs straightforward as your comment is, no one in the administration is capable of understanding it.

They don't care because it won't hurt their wallets.  As for us, it's just a few pennies
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: pbiflyer on April 29, 2026, 07:33:27 AM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 29, 2026, 06:11:15 AMThey don't care because it won't hurt their wallets.  As for us, it's just a few pennies
And since the administration got rid of pennies, it won't hurt our wallets either.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on April 29, 2026, 09:30:38 AM
Seems like Muggsy's "Introduce the Middle East to Darkness" is going swimmingly. Luckily we have an administration that has the same amount of geopolitical foresight as Muggsy has.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on April 29, 2026, 09:36:07 AM
Meanwhile, the war criminal Capt. Bone Spur keeps killing people without showing evidence in the Caribbean and eastern Pacific Ocean.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/04/us/politics/trump-boat-attacks-killings.html?

Bone Spur claims they are all drug traffickers. But, of course, he pardoned one of the biggest drug traffickers out there - a guy who bragged about killing millions of Americans with his product.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on April 29, 2026, 09:45:03 AM
don't worry, the war is over. We won. Now on to more important things like putting the President's face and signature on passports and indicting real war criminals:

https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/2049225899921318213
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 29, 2026, 10:35:44 AM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on April 29, 2026, 09:45:03 AMdon't worry, the war is over. We won. Now on to more important things like putting the President's face and signature on passports and indicting real war criminals:

https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/2049225899921318213

Certainly has nothing to do with Comey's daughter and her lawsuit against the DOJ, no sir.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on April 29, 2026, 10:55:29 AM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 29, 2026, 10:35:44 AMCertainly has nothing to do with Comey's daughter and her lawsuit against the DOJ, no sir.

How dare the administration use its power to go after its political enemies! That's un-American.

-MAGA, 2021-2024.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 29, 2026, 11:59:34 AM
Gin Diesel covering himself in glory on Capitol Hill today
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: tower912 on April 29, 2026, 04:11:29 PM
New nickname. 
Not
A
Chance
Hormuz
Opens
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 30, 2026, 06:01:44 AM
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss

https://bsky.app/profile/jongambrell.bsky.social/post/3mkpgiemlec2n
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jay Bee on April 30, 2026, 06:52:35 AM
Quote from: tower912 on April 29, 2026, 04:11:29 PMNew nickname. 
Not
A
Chance
Hormuz
Opens

New thread title:
Leftist Scooper Circle J3rk
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Hards Alumni on April 30, 2026, 06:57:49 AM
Quote from: Jay Bee on April 30, 2026, 06:52:35 AMNew thread title:
Leftist Scooper Circle J3rk


One day you're going to wake up, and realize that the majority of the country feels this way.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jay Bee on April 30, 2026, 06:59:45 AM
Quote from: Hards Alumni on April 30, 2026, 06:57:49 AMOne day you're going to wake up, and realize that the majority of the country feels this way.

Feels what way? All I see are stupid little jabs and nonsense whining. There's probably a lot we agree on, but you can't get your words out (basic, principled words). wah, wah wah is all I see.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: tower912 on April 30, 2026, 07:01:10 AM
Quote from: Jay Bee on April 30, 2026, 06:52:35 AMNew thread title:
Leftist Scooper Circle J3rk

OK.  When will the straits (pawz) of Hormuz open?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Hards Alumni on April 30, 2026, 07:02:25 AM
Quote from: Jay Bee on April 30, 2026, 06:59:45 AMFeels what way? All I see are stupid little jabs and nonsense whining. There's probably a lot we agree on, but you can't get your words out (basic, principled words). wah, wah wah is all I see.

That our president is a moron.  And yes, I agree with you about the jabs and whining, but there isn't much else that the average person can do.  If it's too much for you, just dip out on the thread.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jay Bee on April 30, 2026, 07:08:57 AM
Quote from: Hards Alumni on April 30, 2026, 07:02:25 AMThat our president is a moron.  And yes, I agree with you about the jabs and whining, but there isn't much else that the average person can do.  If it's too much for you, just dip out on the thread.

This site already has rules against such posting -- a better fix than me "dipping out" is for the well paid mods to silence these criminals.

PS - As I've said many times, I've never voted for the current President and never would.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Hards Alumni on April 30, 2026, 07:14:06 AM
Quote from: Jay Bee on April 30, 2026, 07:08:57 AMThis site already has rules against such posting -- a better fix than me "dipping out" is for the well paid mods to silence these criminals.

PS - As I've said many times, I've never voted for the current President and never would.

It's their site, and they're going to police it as they see fit.  Dunno what to tell you there.

Also, good.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 30, 2026, 07:18:29 AM
Mods, lock this thread.  The snowflakes mad about beer cans are sad again.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 30, 2026, 07:22:41 AM
Quote from: tower912 on April 30, 2026, 07:01:10 AMOK.  When will the straits (pawz) of Hormuz open?

It was wide open in February.  Then a rudderless, feckless nation with terrible and ill-prepared leadership started a war with no plan or exit strategy.

Then the Administrative Assistant of War went in front of Congress begging for money to continue this war while gas prices rise and the cost of living for Americans rise daily.  I know, it's just a few freedom NICKELS.

The rich are getting richer off this war through insider trading, however, and that's a plus.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 30, 2026, 09:19:44 AM
Gas prices at $4.24 in the Milwaukee area today. 
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jay Bee on April 30, 2026, 09:49:29 AM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 30, 2026, 09:19:44 AMGas prices at $4.24 in the Milwaukee area today. 

Good thing your types are into biking everywhere, aina
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 30, 2026, 10:19:09 AM
Quote from: Jay Bee on April 30, 2026, 09:49:29 AMGood thing your types are into biking everywhere, aina

What's my type?  Pickleball player?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Scoop Snoop on April 30, 2026, 10:30:26 AM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 30, 2026, 10:19:09 AMWhat's my type?  Pickleball player?

Stand up comedian.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: tower912 on April 30, 2026, 02:16:33 PM
$4.99


Patriot tax.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: forgetful on April 30, 2026, 08:36:45 PM
Even if Iran gave up all their nuclear material, none of this would be worth it.

They would still pursue a nuclear weapon, just do it more secretly next time.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: jesmu84 on April 30, 2026, 09:23:03 PM
Quote from: forgetful on April 30, 2026, 08:36:45 PMEven if Iran gave up all their nuclear material, none of this would be worth it.

They would still pursue a nuclear weapon, just do it more secretly next time.

Iran should absolutely be pursuing a nuclear weapon. Every country on earth should be pursuing one.

Look at North Korea vs Libya
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Shaka Shart on April 30, 2026, 09:49:32 PM
Shocking who the one to bring up circle jerks was.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: tower912 on May 02, 2026, 10:35:58 AM
May be better off not making a deal with Iran.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on May 02, 2026, 10:40:54 AM
Quote from: tower912 on May 02, 2026, 10:35:58 AMMay be better off not making a deal with Iran.

Why? And who would be better off?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: tower912 on May 02, 2026, 11:00:15 AM
Paraphrasing
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on May 02, 2026, 02:21:12 PM
The war is over.

We won! We won! 

Grown manly men everywhere stand to salute the flag and the pedo with tears in their eyes.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jay Bee on May 02, 2026, 02:28:31 PM
Quote from: Jockey on May 02, 2026, 02:21:12 PMGrown manly men everywhere stand to salute the flag and the pedo with tears in their eyes.

^^^ ban her
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: tower912 on May 02, 2026, 05:18:59 PM
I am paying $4.99 per gallon of gas around here.   Higher than 4 years ago.   It isn't going to go down any time soon.

NACHO.

The trickle down effect of this will be far more pervasive than the benefits of trickle down tax cuts.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 02, 2026, 05:36:54 PM
Quote from: Jay Bee on May 02, 2026, 02:28:31 PM^^^ ban her

^^^ ban him for a personal attack
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: tower912 on May 02, 2026, 05:51:06 PM
The 2022 gas price spike was due to the shock to the world markets of Russia invading Ukraine.   This gas spike is due to the US invading Iran.

Compare and contrast.   
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Shaka Shart on May 02, 2026, 05:52:55 PM
Christian on Christian violence isn't ok.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: mu_hilltopper on May 02, 2026, 06:00:51 PM
Tucker Carlson is an insufferable twat, but the first 10-15 minutes of this are interesting.

Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 02, 2026, 06:20:58 PM
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on May 02, 2026, 06:00:51 PMTucker Carlson is an insufferable twat, but the first 10-15 minutes of this are interesting.



A confederacy of dunces
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on May 02, 2026, 09:58:22 PM
Quote from: tower912 on May 02, 2026, 05:18:59 PMI am paying $4.99 per gallon of gas around here.   Higher than 4 years ago.   It isn't going to go down any time soon.

NACHO.

The trickle down effect of this will be far more pervasive than the benefits of trickle down tax cuts.

And it's obviously not only gas. Deisel, jet fuel, crops (because fertilizer prices have skyrocketed) ... to go with already major spikes in costs for health care, utilities, insurance of all kinds, beef, coffee, numerous other foods.

Remember when Capt. Bone Spur's  big campaign promise was lowering prices? Oh, and also keeping us out of wars?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Scoop Snoop on May 02, 2026, 10:11:48 PM
Quote from: MU82 on May 02, 2026, 09:58:22 PMAnd it's obviously not only gas. Deisel, jet fuel, crops (because fertilizer prices have skyrocketed) ... to go with already major spikes in costs for health care, utilities, insurance of all kinds, beef, coffee, numerous other foods

The other stuff is no big deal, but coffee? I'm so pissed!
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 03, 2026, 06:13:07 AM
Quote from: MU82 on May 02, 2026, 09:58:22 PMAnd it's obviously not only gas. Deisel, jet fuel, crops (because fertilizer prices have skyrocketed) ... to go with already major spikes in costs for health care, utilities, insurance of all kinds, beef, coffee, numerous other foods.

Remember when Capt. Bone Spur's  big campaign promise was lowering prices? Oh, and also keeping us out of wars?

It's Truman's fault
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: pbiflyer on May 03, 2026, 06:26:56 AM
Quote from: tower912 on April 30, 2026, 07:01:10 AMOK.  When will the straits (pawz) of Hormuz open?

It's a friendly blockade.

https://x.com/atrupar/status/2050706837452824624?s=46
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 04, 2026, 07:03:26 AM
Actions have consequences

https://www.ft.com/content/481022cf-83f6-4d55-8a76-08f6d22b20e6?syn-25a6b1a6=1
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: tower912 on May 04, 2026, 07:25:25 AM
Can cut costs by laying off TSA since there won't be as many flights.   4D chess.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: forgetful on May 04, 2026, 10:17:01 PM
The excursion has been upgraded to a mini-war.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 05, 2026, 07:31:50 AM
https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3ml46paxz3g2n

Boy, irony is on run lately
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on May 05, 2026, 07:47:49 AM
It's government run by Fox News hosts.

The voters are getting what they voted for, and unfortunately taking everyone down with them.

I've been saying since the 90s that we needed to get off oil so that we could tell the entire Middle East to unnatural carnal knowledge off when it came to energy. And here we are.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 05, 2026, 08:07:41 AM
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on May 05, 2026, 07:47:49 AMIt's government run by Fox News hosts.

The voters are getting what they voted for, and unfortunately taking everyone down with them.

I've been saying since the 90s that we needed to get off oil so that we could tell the entire Middle East to unnatural carnal knowledge off when it came to energy. And here we are.

And religious zealots pushing this war over some biblical fiction doesn't help.  A confederacy of dunces.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on May 05, 2026, 08:45:31 AM
Gas is $4.85 here (it was $3.67 at the same station 10 days ago), and that's with the suspension of the state's gas tax. This is what I voted for. USA! USA!
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on May 05, 2026, 08:59:21 AM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on May 05, 2026, 08:45:31 AMGas is $4.85 here (it was $3.67 at the same station 10 days ago), and that's with the suspension of the state's gas tax. This is what I voted for. USA! USA!

It's worth it because the Golden Ballroom that was going to cost $200 $300 $400 billion and be funded by private donations is now a $400M $1B taxpayer funded line item in the new Republican budget bill.

The dentists must be very proud.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 05, 2026, 09:47:14 AM
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on May 05, 2026, 08:59:21 AMIt's worth it because the Golden Ballroom that was going to cost $200 $300 $400 billion and be funded by private donations is now a $400M $1B taxpayer funded line item in the new Republican budget bill.

The dentists must be very proud.

Fiscal conservatism is as real as God
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on May 05, 2026, 10:39:53 AM
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on May 05, 2026, 08:59:21 AMIt's worth it because the Golden Ballroom that was going to cost $200 $300 $400 billion and be funded by private donations is now a $400M $1B taxpayer funded line item in the new Republican budget bill.

The dentists must be very proud.

Hey, we need a ballroom for events like the correspondents' dinner, even though such events are not government functions and won't be held there.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on May 05, 2026, 10:43:16 AM
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on May 05, 2026, 08:59:21 AMIt's worth it because the Golden Ballroom that was going to cost $200 $300 $400 billion and be funded by private donations is now a $400M $1B taxpayer funded line item in the new Republican budget bill.

The dentists must be very proud.

They like the winning.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: cheebs09 on May 05, 2026, 10:50:53 AM
Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on May 05, 2026, 10:43:16 AMThey like the winning.

Some people's wallets are certainly winning. Just not ours.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 05, 2026, 12:25:03 PM
Huh

https://www.thedailybeast.com/president-donald-trumps-own-military-intel-says-hes-failing-to-damage-iranian-nuclear-program/
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on May 05, 2026, 02:26:26 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on May 05, 2026, 12:25:03 PMHuh

https://www.thedailybeast.com/president-donald-trumps-own-military-intel-says-hes-failing-to-damage-iranian-nuclear-program/

The military definitely has TDS. It's all Biden's fault.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 05, 2026, 03:16:01 PM
Confederacy of Dunces

https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3ml4y6dv3rt2u
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: jesmu84 on May 05, 2026, 04:37:48 PM
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on May 05, 2026, 07:47:49 AMIt's government run by Fox News hosts.

The voters are getting what they voted for, and unfortunately taking everyone down with them.

I've been saying since the 90s that we needed to get off oil so that we could tell the entire Middle East to unnatural carnal knowledge off when it came to energy. And here we are.

I've seen/read/heard a lot about the US being oil/energy independent

If true, shouldn't we be insulated from global price fluctuations
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on May 05, 2026, 07:47:49 AMIt's government run by Fox News hosts.

The voters are getting what they voted for, and unfortunately taking everyone down with them.

I've been saying since the 90s that we needed to get off oil so that we could tell the entire Middle East to unnatural carnal knowledge off when it came to energy. And here we are.

If it's a goal to be energy independent, shouldn't we be nationalizing energy sectors ?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on May 05, 2026, 04:51:00 PM
good news, Dear Leader's war efforts did destroy an air force of one kind:

https://x.com/NBCNews/status/2051366259720179719
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 05, 2026, 05:13:36 PM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on May 05, 2026, 04:51:00 PMgood news, Dear Leader's war efforts did destroy an air force of one kind:

https://x.com/NBCNews/status/2051366259720179719

Fox News is blaming the Biden DOJ for not approving a merger with Jet Blue who is also about to go under, so make sure you get the "facts"

It is only a few NICKELS
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 05, 2026, 05:13:53 PM
Confederacy of Dunces

https://bsky.app/profile/thebulwark.com/post/3ml52lav3n52w
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on May 05, 2026, 05:37:24 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on May 05, 2026, 05:13:36 PMFox News is blaming the Biden DOJ for not approving a merger with Jet Blue who is also about to go under, so make sure you get the "facts"

It is only a few NICKELS

I don't think that decision is blameless in Spirit's ultimate demise.

Where are you reading that JB is about to go under? They seem to be expanding and taking some of Spirit's old routes.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 05, 2026, 05:41:56 PM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on May 05, 2026, 05:37:24 PMI don't think that decision is blameless in Spirit's ultimate demise.

Where are you reading that JB is about to go under? They seem to be expanding and taking some of Spirit's old routes.

They've been losing money since pre-COVID.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 05, 2026, 06:14:17 PM
Operation Freedom has ended
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: RJax55 on May 05, 2026, 06:40:01 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on May 05, 2026, 06:14:17 PMOperation Freedom has ended

Im just an arm chair general, but this operation seemed pretty short. So much for freedom.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 05, 2026, 06:45:42 PM
Quote from: RJax55 on May 05, 2026, 06:40:01 PMIm just an arm chair general, but this operation seemed pretty short. So much for freedom.

Tough break for Gin Diesel and Little Marco who praised and defended Operation Freedom throughout the day.

🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Shaka Shart on May 05, 2026, 08:39:55 PM
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on May 05, 2026, 08:59:21 AMIt's worth it because the Golden Ballroom that was going to cost $200 $300 $400 billion and be funded by private donations is now a $400M $1B taxpayer funded line item in the new Republican budget bill.

The dentists must be very proud.

The "D" word may be triggering for some. Let's try and use an alternative phrase to describe them like Mouth Chiropractors
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: pbiflyer on May 05, 2026, 10:40:04 PM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on May 05, 2026, 05:37:24 PMI don't think that decision is blameless in Spirit's ultimate demise.

Where are you reading that JB is about to go under? They seem to be expanding and taking some of Spirit's old routes.

You're right. I couldn't find anything on it on Fox News.

https://viewfromthewing.com/more-airline-bankruptcies-may-be-coming-jetblue-and-frontier-face-the-highest-risk/


https://simpleflying.com/jetblue-debt-9-billion-this-year-united-isnt-interested-founder/

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/jetblue-airways-jblu-down-7-051032859.html


https://jetsetterguide.com/news/airline/jetblue-founder-warns-bankruptcy-amid-debt-crisis


JetBlue Founder Warns of Bankruptcy Amid Debt Crisis
NEW YORK - JetBlue's founder publicly raises bankruptcy concerns as the carrier wrestles with crushing debt and a fuel crisis that could trigger $1.3 billion in losses this year.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on May 06, 2026, 05:32:52 AM
Isn't the JetBlue founder also the founder of Breeze?

Trying to help his new airline?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on May 06, 2026, 08:35:00 AM
Quote from: pbiflyer on May 05, 2026, 10:40:04 PMYou're right. I couldn't find anything on it on Fox News.

https://viewfromthewing.com/more-airline-bankruptcies-may-be-coming-jetblue-and-frontier-face-the-highest-risk/


https://simpleflying.com/jetblue-debt-9-billion-this-year-united-isnt-interested-founder/

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/jetblue-airways-jblu-down-7-051032859.html


https://jetsetterguide.com/news/airline/jetblue-founder-warns-bankruptcy-amid-debt-crisis


JetBlue Founder Warns of Bankruptcy Amid Debt Crisis
NEW YORK - JetBlue's founder publicly raises bankruptcy concerns as the carrier wrestles with crushing debt and a fuel crisis that could trigger $1.3 billion in losses this year.


I don't understand the FauxNews reference.

Bankruptcy does not equal going under like Spirit. In fact, JB's business strategy resulted in a revenue increase in Q1, and they have $2.5 billion of liquid assets, whereas Spirit had nothing of the sort. JB is in a far better position to be acquired (especially with T5 at JFK as an attractive asset) than Spirit ever was.  (note: my wife worked for JB a number of years ago, she did fuel hedging for them).
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on May 06, 2026, 09:34:20 AM
Quote from: Shaka Shart on May 05, 2026, 08:39:55 PMThe "D" word may be triggering for some. Let's try and use an alternative phrase to describe them like Mouth Chiropractors

I prefer Flossing Assistants
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on May 06, 2026, 10:28:15 AM
Did y'all happen to catch yesterday's hour-long, rambling diatribe to a bunch of 8-to-12 year old children?

Those poor kids squirmed uncomfortably as he ranted about transgender "mutilization," and as he told countless lies about the economy, Iran having nukes, the "rigged" 2020 election, all the wars he thinks he stopped, and a make-believe trans weightlifter. It was supposed to be a ceremony announcing the return of the presidential fitness test; of course, the morbidly obese Grifter In Chief couldn't do a sit-up if his life depended on it.

He sounded like a guy afflicted with middle-stage Alzheimers.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on May 06, 2026, 12:14:32 PM
Quote from: Shaka Shart on May 05, 2026, 08:39:55 PMThe "D" word may be triggering for some. Let's try and use an alternative phrase to describe them like Mouth Chiropractors

I have to hug my emotional support dog every time I hear that word.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: jesmu84 on May 06, 2026, 12:49:38 PM
https://x.com/i/status/2052016279746195616
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: tower912 on May 06, 2026, 12:53:18 PM
I am sure it is just a coincidence.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 06, 2026, 01:43:23 PM
Quote from: tower912 on May 06, 2026, 12:53:18 PMI am sure it is just a coincidence.

It's not like they're selling paintings
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 06, 2026, 02:20:11 PM
Farmers get what they vote for and they'll do it again and we'll give them a socialist bailout again

https://www.wpr.org/news/steep-fertilizer-fuel-prices-squeeze-us-farmers-months-come
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 06, 2026, 02:23:31 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on May 06, 2026, 02:20:11 PMFarmers get what they vote for and they'll do it again and we'll give them a socialist bailout again

https://www.wpr.org/news/steep-fertilizer-fuel-prices-squeeze-us-farmers-months-come

Farmers get what they vote for and they'll do it again and we'll give them a socialist bailout again, part 2

https://bsky.app/profile/jake.sooscreek.productions/post/3ml7a7jytys2a
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jay Bee on May 06, 2026, 04:33:54 PM
Quote from: MU82 on May 06, 2026, 10:28:15 AMDid y'all happen to catch yesterday's hour-long, rambling diatribe to a bunch of 8-to-12 year old children?

Those poor kids squirmed uncomfortably as he ranted about transgender "mutilization," and as he told countless lies about the economy, Iran having nukes, the "rigged" 2020 election, all the wars he thinks he stopped, and a make-believe trans weightlifter. It was supposed to be a ceremony announcing the return of the presidential fitness test; of course, the morbidly obese Grifter In Chief couldn't do a sit-up if his life depended on it.

He sounded like a guy afflicted with middle-stage Alzheimers.

^^^ needs a break
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Hards Alumni on May 06, 2026, 04:36:19 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on May 06, 2026, 02:23:31 PMFarmers get what they vote for and they'll do it again and we'll give them a socialist bailout again, part 2

https://bsky.app/profile/jake.sooscreek.productions/post/3ml7a7jytys2a

They're all afraid of people and situations they have no interactions with and vote accordingly.

I say let em fail so they can pick themselves up by their bootstraps.  It's what they expect of everyone else.  They'll never learn their lesson unless they face some adversity!
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 06, 2026, 04:48:45 PM
Quote from: Hards Alumni on May 06, 2026, 04:36:19 PMThey're all afraid of people and situations they have no interactions with and vote accordingly.

I say let em fail so they can pick themselves up by their bootstraps.  It's what they expect of everyone else.  They'll never learn their lesson unless they face some adversity!

I have sympathy for their plight but at some point, I'd like to see those that bemoan "welfare queens" bemoan these "welfare queens".  Rural welfare is as expensive as urban welfare and as prevalent
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on May 06, 2026, 06:32:51 PM
Quote from: Jay Bee on May 06, 2026, 04:33:54 PM^^^ needs a break

Yes he does. Preferably well before his term is mutilizated.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 06, 2026, 09:19:56 PM
The president is eating the chess pieces again

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trumps-abrupt-u-turn-plan-re-open-strait-hormuz-came-backlash-allies-rcna343845

Staggering details in this well-researched report.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on May 07, 2026, 12:47:49 AM
Somebody is lying. Wonder if it's the pathological liar. Nah!
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jay Bee on May 07, 2026, 07:06:20 AM
Quote from: MU82 on May 07, 2026, 12:47:49 AMSomebody is lying. Wonder if it's the pathological liar. Nah!

It's just constant. Really awful. You need a timeout.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 07, 2026, 07:07:16 AM
Quote from: Jay Bee on May 07, 2026, 07:06:20 AMIt's just constant. Really awful. You need a timeout.

Trans jokes and gender jokes deserve a timeout, too.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jay Bee on May 07, 2026, 07:21:33 AM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on May 07, 2026, 07:07:16 AMTrans jokes and gender jokes deserve a timeout, too.

#FakeNews #Lies

"The new rule:
If you mention a candidate, current president, or even joke about current political events, you'll be forced off the site for 3 weeks."

PS - What is gender and how long has it been around for?

Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 07, 2026, 07:29:44 AM
Quote from: Jay Bee on May 07, 2026, 07:21:33 AM#FakeNews #Lies

"The new rule:
If you mention a candidate, current president, or even joke about current political events, you'll be forced off the site for 3 weeks."

PS - What is gender and how long has it been around for?



• No pornography - you broke that rule
• Use of profanity, racist or sexist comments prohibited - you broke that rule

Here's a video of the SOS admitting this war has caused the death of innocent lives of our allies

https://youtu.be/m6Nul8I_pd0?si=u40qsim2D90MbWW3
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jay Bee on May 07, 2026, 07:35:04 AM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on May 07, 2026, 07:29:44 AM• No pornography - you broke that rule
• Use of profanity, racist or sexist comments prohibited - you broke that rule

Here's a video of the SOS admitting this war has caused the death of innocent lives of our allies

https://youtu.be/m6Nul8I_pd0?si=u40qsim2D90MbWW3


#FakeNews #Lies

Where are these rules you speak of?

There is a pinned post called 'Politics ban warning' on this site -- https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=66418.0

Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 07, 2026, 07:36:21 AM
Quote from: Jay Bee on May 07, 2026, 07:35:04 AM#FakeNews #Lies

Where are these rules you speak of?

There is a pinned post called 'Politics ban warning' on this site -- https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=66418.0



https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=3.0
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on May 07, 2026, 07:54:50 AM
we should all be thankful for Dear Leader. Oil didn't go up to $200/barrel. WINNING!

https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/2052105367681691824
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on May 07, 2026, 08:28:23 AM
I mean, of course Capt. Bone Spur is screwing over the Americans who can least afford it - including millions of red-state residents who continue to worship the false god that is actively and uncaringly hurting them.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/06/business/economy/gas-prices-inequality-lower-income-consumers.html?

Surging gas prices are inflaming a longstanding economic divide in America, as households with lower incomes struggle to pay more at the pump at a moment when prices are already elevated.

After more than two months of war in the Middle East, the national average gas price has surpassed $4.50 a gallon. And according to an analysis released by the Federal Reserve Bank of New York on Wednesday, the burden of the surge is falling hardest on those with the least room to absorb it.

Economists at the New York Fed found that higher-income people increased spending on gasoline the most in March, but the amount of gas they bought when adjusted for inflation was "essentially unchanged," a sign that their behavior has been largely unaffected by the fuel price surge.

Lower-income households, however, spent much more on gas than usual but cut back on the amount of gasoline they bought by driving less or "potentially by car-pooling or substituting to public transit where available," according to the report.

The report's title, "A K‑Shaped Pattern at the Pump," refers to what economists have broadly been calling the "K-shaped" state of economy, in which higher-income households thrive and drive economic growth while those at the bottom slide in comparison.


Meanwhile, in a new poll conducted by NPR, PBS and Marist, more than 8 in 10 Americans said struggles at the gas pump are putting a strain on their finances.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jay Bee on May 07, 2026, 08:37:31 AM
DOW hit 50,000+ again this morning!

#TrustTheProcess
#WeAreSaved
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TallTitan34 on May 07, 2026, 08:53:35 AM
Quote from: Jay Bee on May 07, 2026, 08:37:31 AMDOW hit 50,000+ again this morning!

#TrustTheProcess
#WeAreSaved

Bondi can exhale.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on May 07, 2026, 08:59:11 AM
Quote from: Jay Bee on May 07, 2026, 07:35:04 AM#FakeNews #Lies

Where are these rules you speak of?

There is a pinned post called 'Politics ban warning' on this site -- https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=66418.0



You whine just as much as the toddler you worship.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on May 07, 2026, 09:07:14 AM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on May 07, 2026, 07:36:21 AMhttps://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=3.0

Like his hero, JB decides which rules are worth following and ignores all others.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 07, 2026, 09:30:36 AM
https://bsky.app/profile/carlquintanilla.bsky.social/post/3mlbefmbxac2c

Tick tock, tick tock
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on May 07, 2026, 10:02:40 AM
Quote from: MU82 on May 07, 2026, 08:28:23 AMI mean, of course Capt. Bone Spur is screwing over the Americans who can least afford it - including millions of red-state residents who continue to worship the false god that is actively and uncaringly hurting them.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/06/business/economy/gas-prices-inequality-lower-income-consumers.html?

Surging gas prices are inflaming a longstanding economic divide in America, as households with lower incomes struggle to pay more at the pump at a moment when prices are already elevated.

After more than two months of war in the Middle East, the national average gas price has surpassed $4.50 a gallon. And according to an analysis released by the Federal Reserve Bank of New York on Wednesday, the burden of the surge is falling hardest on those with the least room to absorb it.

Economists at the New York Fed found that higher-income people increased spending on gasoline the most in March, but the amount of gas they bought when adjusted for inflation was "essentially unchanged," a sign that their behavior has been largely unaffected by the fuel price surge.

Lower-income households, however, spent much more on gas than usual but cut back on the amount of gasoline they bought by driving less or "potentially by car-pooling or substituting to public transit where available," according to the report.

The report's title, "A K‑Shaped Pattern at the Pump," refers to what economists have broadly been calling the "K-shaped" state of economy, in which higher-income households thrive and drive economic growth while those at the bottom slide in comparison.


Meanwhile, in a new poll conducted by NPR, PBS and Marist, more than 8 in 10 Americans said struggles at the gas pump are putting a strain on their finances.

Don't worry, our economy is booming. Credit card spending is booming! Who else is tired of all of this winning?

https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/2052083185421328873
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on May 07, 2026, 10:51:30 AM
"A confidential CIA analysis delivered to administration policymakers this week concludes that Iran can survive the U.S. naval blockade for at least three to four months before facing more severe economic hardship"
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 07, 2026, 10:54:01 AM
https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3mlbhkz7qsk2j

Real World star says it's just a few pennies
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: 21Jumpstreet on May 07, 2026, 11:15:29 AM
Quote from: Jay Bee on May 07, 2026, 07:21:33 AMPS - What is gender and how long has it been around for?


Awesome question. An ever evolving social construct, since the beginning of time.

Only relevant here because politicians like to weaponize it for their personal gain. Create a problem where there isn't one, denigrate people/countries/the group that is on the "other" side of the made up problem, attack, and we have war.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on May 07, 2026, 11:39:04 AM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on May 07, 2026, 10:54:01 AMhttps://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3mlbhkz7qsk2j

Real World star says it's just a few pennies

Pfffttt, I can top that:

"This is an administration all about lowering energy prices, and an incredibly successful record in doing that"

https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3mlbh3n2xxq23

Sean: The rise in prices are totally no big deal
Chris: Are you kidding? We've massively lowered prices
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on May 07, 2026, 11:43:27 AM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on May 07, 2026, 10:02:40 AMDon't worry, our economy is booming. Credit card spending is booming! Who else is tired of all of this winning?

Yup. And still more winning ...

U.S. job cuts jumped 38% in April, according to the Challenger job cuts report. The initial jobless claims for the week ended May 2 rose by 10K to 200K from 190K in the prior week. Furthermore, nonfarm productivity growth decelerated in Q1, and labor costs rose above estimates. (From Seeking Alpha)

And every day this unnecessary war goes on, things just get worse here back home. America Last!
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: jesmu84 on May 07, 2026, 01:56:34 PM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on May 07, 2026, 10:02:40 AMDon't worry, our economy is booming. Credit card spending is booming! Who else is tired of all of this winning?

https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/2052083185421328873

Economic advisor thinks it's great regular Americans are forced into credit card debt to survive their daily lives
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 07, 2026, 02:50:00 PM
Quote from: jesmu84 on May 07, 2026, 01:56:34 PMEconomic advisor thinks it's great regular Americans are forced into credit card debt to survive their daily lives

It's only a few pennies
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: pbiflyer on May 07, 2026, 06:41:56 PM
Quote from: Jay Bee on May 07, 2026, 08:37:31 AMDOW hit 50,000+ again this morning!

#TrustTheProcess
#WeAreSaved

That will be warm comfort to the 170 dead Iranian school children for the 38% of Americans that don't own any stock or the rest of the people that are struggling to get by but are paying more for groceries and gas.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 07, 2026, 06:52:07 PM
Quote from: pbiflyer on May 07, 2026, 06:41:56 PMThat will be warm comfort to the 170 dead Iranian school children for the 38% of Americans that don't own any stock or the rest of the people that are struggling to get by but are paying more for groceries and gas.

We were literally minutes from Iranians flooding America with nuclear vests.

Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on May 08, 2026, 07:30:45 AM
When both sides continue to fire at one another it's still a ceasefire, is it?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Hards Alumni on May 08, 2026, 07:32:24 AM
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on May 08, 2026, 07:30:45 AMWhen both sides continue to fire at one another it's still a ceasefire, is it?

Depends if the markets are open or not
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Skatastrophy on May 08, 2026, 07:53:24 AM
I have a friend that has told me things that are uncomfortable but true in the past. Gave me the heads up about ICE invading cities a few months in advance. Last month he suggested we would have boots on the ground by June. 

Things can change, but I am expecting this to escalate. 
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 08, 2026, 07:55:05 AM
Quote from: Skatastrophy on May 08, 2026, 07:53:24 AMI have a friend that has told me things that are uncomfortable but true in the past. Gave me the heads up about ICE invading cities a few months in advance. Last month he suggested we would have boots on the ground by June.

Things can change, but I am expecting this to escalate.

I find that hard to believe.  The war is over.  Well, it's not a war, it's an excursion.  And the Iranians want a deal. 
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: tower912 on May 08, 2026, 09:09:04 AM
Joe Kent on Fox news...
The intelligence community felt Iran was not developing a nuclear bomb and that Iran would attack bases in the region and shut down the straits of Hormuz if attacked.

Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on May 08, 2026, 09:11:00 AM
Quote from: tower912 on May 08, 2026, 09:09:04 AMJoe Kent on Fox news...
The intelligence community felt Iran was not developing a nuclear bomb and that Iran would attack bases in the region and shut down the straits of Hormuz if attacked.



Well, never accuse Capt. Bone Spur of listening to intelligence. Or having any.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 08, 2026, 09:25:28 AM
Quote from: tower912 on May 08, 2026, 09:09:04 AMJoe Kent on Fox news...
The intelligence community felt Iran was not developing a nuclear bomb and that Iran would attack bases in the region and shut down the straits of Hormuz if attacked.



I'm no military strategist, but the second half checks out.

We did this for Israel and the Christian fundamentalists in the administration and media that have Diaper Don's two good ears.  The Christian fundamentalists really believe we're close to the second coming of Jesus because they are also stupid fundamentalists.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on May 08, 2026, 10:57:01 AM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on May 08, 2026, 09:25:28 AMI'm no military strategist, but the second half checks out.

We did this for Israel and the Christian fundamentalists in the administration and media that have Diaper Don's two good ears.  The Christian fundamentalists really believe we're close to the second coming of Jesus because they are also stupid fundamentalists.

Bibi talked Trump into it--after Israel failed to convince previous, sane, Presidents--but I also think a big factor was the experience in Venezuela. It seems like Trump believed, like the moron that he is, that the same scenario would play out in Iran, i.e., get rid of the leader, install a friendly one, and steal the oil, placing a large amount of the proceeds in his offshore bank account.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 08, 2026, 10:57:40 AM
The main lesson of this war is, stop being poor

https://bsky.app/profile/thebulwark.com/post/3mle2zahvtf2i
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on May 08, 2026, 11:17:34 AM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on May 08, 2026, 10:57:40 AMThe main lesson of this war is, stop being poor

https://bsky.app/profile/thebulwark.com/post/3mle2zahvtf2i

Just follow the advice of Trump's economic adviser, Kevin Hassett, and use credit cards. That shows you're not struggling to afford anything, and we are truly in the American Gilded, er, Golden Age.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 08, 2026, 11:23:35 AM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on May 08, 2026, 11:17:34 AMJust follow the advice of Trump's economic adviser, Kevin Hassett, and use credit cards. That shows you're not struggling to afford anything, and we are truly in the American Gilded, er, Golden Age.

This is what the poor and uneducated voted for.  Can't wait to write them a bailout check in the next year or so as we use a socialist bailout
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TallTitan34 on May 08, 2026, 02:53:32 PM
Whew. I thought they were up.

https://x.com/acyn/status/2052550782965174401?s=46
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on May 08, 2026, 03:00:19 PM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on May 08, 2026, 02:53:32 PMWhew. I thought they were up.

https://x.com/acyn/status/2052550782965174401?s=46

That average is inflated because of California. Trump personally pumped gas in Iowa recently and it was $.80, or was it $1.80. He was just confused because while he was cleaning his windshield a man came up to him with tears in his eyes and said "sir, these gas prices are ridiculous, thank you for what you've done to Americans like me."
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 08, 2026, 03:59:20 PM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on May 08, 2026, 02:53:32 PMWhew. I thought they were up.

https://x.com/acyn/status/2052550782965174401?s=46

It's only a few pennies
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on May 08, 2026, 08:11:56 PM
Looks like American kids will just be getting 2 pencils for Christmas again.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on May 09, 2026, 10:57:45 AM
66% of Americans disapprove of the way the White House occupant is handling "the situation with Iran," and 65% disapprove of his handling of "relations with U.S. allies." In two areas directly affected by the Iran war - cost of living and inflation - he gets even worse scores.

(https://ecp.yusercontent.com/mail?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpalomaimages.washingtonpost.com%2Fpr2%2F28a9701268d0b1aeb516b17592d0f1d6-polltrumpdisapproval_tstmp_1778272512-1280-0.jpeg&t=1778338782&ymreqid=3c8d0d78-3338-e941-1c26-3d0d66017100&sig=1WV0lAziWpwE5LDOjx9txA--~D)
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 09, 2026, 11:18:41 AM
Quote from: MU82 on May 09, 2026, 10:57:45 AM66% of Americans disapprove of the way the White House occupant is handling "the situation with Iran," and 65% disapprove of his handling of "relations with U.S. allies." In two areas directly affected by the Iran war - cost of living and inflation - he gets even worse scores.

(https://ecp.yusercontent.com/mail?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpalomaimages.washingtonpost.com%2Fpr2%2F28a9701268d0b1aeb516b17592d0f1d6-polltrumpdisapproval_tstmp_1778272512-1280-0.jpeg&t=1778338782&ymreqid=3c8d0d78-3338-e941-1c26-3d0d66017100&sig=1WV0lAziWpwE5LDOjx9txA--~D)

35% of Americans are idiots
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on May 09, 2026, 12:40:47 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on May 09, 2026, 11:18:41 AM35% of Americans are idiots

Yeah they are...

https://x.com/i/status/2052227145921892710
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 09, 2026, 01:07:59 PM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on May 09, 2026, 12:40:47 PMYeah they are...

https://x.com/i/status/2052227145921892710

I'd pay top dollar to watch Fox News, dentists and Newsmax react to a statue like this of Obama
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: pbiflyer on May 09, 2026, 01:34:43 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on May 09, 2026, 11:18:41 AM35% of Americans are idiots

30 percent of Americans are against [squints at notes] the Pope urging peace.

https://x.com/atrupar/status/2052390460425928874?s=61&t=jsIZllSIAp6Fe-FmvZNVnw
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 09, 2026, 02:23:23 PM
Quote from: pbiflyer on May 09, 2026, 01:34:43 PM30 percent of Americans are against [squints at notes] the Pope urging peace.

https://x.com/atrupar/status/2052390460425928874?s=61&t=jsIZllSIAp6Fe-FmvZNVnw


Religion was a mistake
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on May 09, 2026, 03:10:23 PM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on May 09, 2026, 12:40:47 PMYeah they are...

https://x.com/i/status/2052227145921892710

In other words, it's a golden calf.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on May 09, 2026, 04:13:30 PM
Who lies more often? T-rump or Christian pastors?

Obviously the answer is t-rump - but it's a closer contest than most would think.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: cheebs09 on May 09, 2026, 04:39:27 PM
Quote from: MU82 on May 09, 2026, 03:10:23 PMIn other words, it's a golden calf.

I believe golden cankles would be more accurate.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: forgetful on May 09, 2026, 05:36:37 PM
Interesting report indicating that Iran was actually pretty effective at targeting US military installations.

https://www.nytimes.com/video/world/middleeast/100000010868609/iran-war-us-military-base-damage.html

Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on May 10, 2026, 12:39:14 AM
Quote from: forgetful on May 09, 2026, 05:36:37 PMInteresting report indicating that Iran was actually pretty effective at targeting US military installations.

https://www.nytimes.com/video/world/middleeast/100000010868609/iran-war-us-military-base-damage.html

False. People are saying the war was over after the first hour. Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 10, 2026, 12:13:14 PM
Looks like Netanyahu will be getting American soldiers killed in the very near future.

More regime change!  Another generation of terrorism!  More catastrophic nation building!

https://bsky.app/profile/thebulwark.com/post/3mlja3ps4sw25
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: forgetful on May 10, 2026, 12:17:49 PM
This said by Mike Waltz:

"It cannot start just throwing sea mines indiscriminately out into the ocean, attacking shipping. Heck, they've even now started talking about it on Iranian state TV of taking the undersea cables that move financial data, cloud information, and all kinds of important economic information in and out of the gulf, we cannot tolerate a world where two countries have a dispute and one country decides to just take over international waters and hold everyone else hostage"

Also the same country...checks notes. That has repeatedly bombed civilian boats in international waters, including double taps to make sure they all died, has chocked off shipping from/to multiple countries to push their political aims, and in the process repeatedly attacked defenseless civilian ships, and an unarmed military vessel on a diplomatic mission. Who, due to their own action, on a unilateral war they created, has disrupted the global economy, ... are the ones who are saying this.

This all screams the of the bully that repeatedly keeps punching someone then complaining that "he kicked me".
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 10, 2026, 12:38:41 PM
Quote from: forgetful on May 10, 2026, 12:17:49 PMThis said by Mike Waltz:

"It cannot start just throwing sea mines indiscriminately out into the ocean, attacking shipping. Heck, they've even now started talking about it on Iranian state TV of taking the undersea cables that move financial data, cloud information, and all kinds of important economic information in and out of the gulf, we cannot tolerate a world where two countries have a dispute and one country decides to just take over international waters and hold everyone else hostage"

Also the same country...checks notes. That has repeatedly bombed civilian boats in international waters, including double taps to make sure they all died, has chocked off shipping from/to multiple countries to push their political aims, and in the process repeatedly attacked defenseless civilian ships, and an unarmed military vessel on a diplomatic mission. Who, due to their own action, on a unilateral war they created, has disrupted the global economy, ... are the ones who are saying this.

This all screams the of the bully that repeatedly keeps punching someone then complaining that "he kicked me".

The blood of dead American soldiers will be on the hands of the people that voted for this administration.  You are culpable for their deaths.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on May 10, 2026, 05:09:28 PM
Yeah, but they can all wear Capt. Bone Spur-brand ballcaps (Only $55!) to the dignified-transfer services, so it's OK.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TallTitan34 on May 10, 2026, 08:06:37 PM
Quote from: MU82 on May 10, 2026, 05:09:28 PMYeah, but they can all wear Capt. Bone Spur-brand ballcaps (Only $55!) to the dignified-transfer services, so it's OK.

They can't talk on their Trump brand cell phones, however.

https://x.com/allenanalysis/status/2053321828722966699?s=46
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: wadesworld on May 10, 2026, 10:32:10 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on May 10, 2026, 12:38:41 PMThe blood of dead American soldiers will be on the hands of the people that voted for this administration.  You are culpable for their deaths.

Nah. It's Biden's fault.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on May 11, 2026, 12:28:31 AM
The Grifter In Chief is very good at conning his low-IQ cultists.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Shaka Shart on May 11, 2026, 12:55:01 AM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on May 10, 2026, 08:06:37 PMThey can't talk on their Trump brand cell phones, however.

https://x.com/allenanalysis/status/2053321828722966699?s=46

To think almost half that money could have gone to updating the waiting rooms of dental clinics
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on May 11, 2026, 08:32:02 AM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on May 10, 2026, 08:06:37 PMThey can't talk on their Trump brand cell phones, however.

https://x.com/allenanalysis/status/2053321828722966699?s=46

Add:

The bribes from foreign nations. The bribes from pardon seekers. $1B to refurbish his Qatari plane. $400M(?) in private donations to his ballroom. Government contracts to his sons Uday and Qusay. $10B pending for "damages" in leaking his some of his tax information. Hundreds of millions for people staying in his hotels.

And on and on and on and on and on and on....
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on May 11, 2026, 09:13:54 AM
Yeah, but he's not taking his presidential salary, so he's actually getting poorer.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on May 11, 2026, 09:15:30 AM
Quote from: MU82 on May 11, 2026, 09:13:54 AMYeah, but he's not taking his presidential salary, so he's actually getting poorer.

Come on, it's not like he sold a painting
Quote from: wadesworld on May 10, 2026, 10:32:10 PMNah. It's Biden's fault.

Obama
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jay Bee on May 11, 2026, 10:01:58 AM
Quote from: wadesworld on May 10, 2026, 10:32:10 PMNah. It's Biden's fault.

^^^ ban time
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 11, 2026, 10:06:33 AM
Quote from: Jay Bee on May 11, 2026, 10:01:58 AM^^^ ban time

The mods haven't banned you yet for brazenly breaking the rules.

Anyway, Israel has illegally used Iraqi land and airspace to carry out attacks in Iran without their approval. 

https://www.euronews.com/2026/05/10/report-shepherd-uncovers-alleged-secret-israeli-base-in-iraqi-desert?utm_source=yahoo&utm_campaign=feeds_all-themes_articles_2024&utm_medium=referral
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 11, 2026, 10:09:07 AM
Gas prices will not be coming down soon despite the lies from D.C.

https://bsky.app/profile/shipwreck75.bsky.social/post/3mllkexovr225
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TallTitan34 on May 11, 2026, 11:21:27 AM
https://x.com/meidastouch/status/2053853734283903415?s=46
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on May 11, 2026, 11:24:13 AM
Amin Nasser, CEO of Saudi Aramco, the oil giant, warned that disruption of shipping through the strait, a vital oil passage, stretching more than a few more weeks would result in high oil prices until 2027.

(https://ecp.yusercontent.com/mail?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic01.nyt.com%2Fimages%2F2026%2F05%2F11%2Fbusiness%2F11db-chart%2F11db-chart-jumbo.png&t=1778506317&ymreqid=3c8d0d78-3338-e941-1c26-3d0f9c017100&sig=MQQSCpbaYiY5Um1BUysKvQ--~D)
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 11, 2026, 11:56:29 AM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on May 11, 2026, 11:21:27 AMhttps://x.com/meidastouch/status/2053853734283903415?s=46

Fiscal conservatism.  World's greatest economy is making billionaires much richer while the average American pays the cost.

Fiscal conservatism might be one of the greatest lies in the history of mankind.

As they attack the social security net, note the cost of this war as they attack the average Americans pocket book and blame immigrants.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on May 11, 2026, 12:25:15 PM
The war doesn't really matter with other urgent (and urgently corrupt) needs like this one ...

President Trump said that his handpicked contractor would charge only $1.8 million to repair the Lincoln Memorial Reflecting Pool and paint it blue. The actual cost is now more than seven times that, after the Interior Department nearly doubled the size of the contract late last week, federal records show.

On Friday, the Interior Department added $6.2 million to the contract's previous cost, saying it now planned to pay $13.1 million to a Virginia firm called Atlantic Industrial Coatings. President Trump said he chose that company to repair the landmark because the firm had worked on the swimming pools at his golf club in Sterling, Va.

The government awarded that firm a no-bid contract last month, bypassing the requirement to seek competing offers by saying that the situation was so urgent that any delay would cause "serious injury" to the government. The government has not publicly said what that injury would have been.


https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/11/us/politics/reflecting-pool-paint-contract-trump.html?

Where the hell is DOGE?!?!
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on May 11, 2026, 01:29:46 PM
Quote from: MU82 on May 11, 2026, 12:25:15 PMThe war doesn't really matter with other urgent (and urgently corrupt) needs like this one ...

President Trump said that his handpicked contractor would charge only $1.8 million to repair the Lincoln Memorial Reflecting Pool and paint it blue. The actual cost is now more than seven times that, after the Interior Department nearly doubled the size of the contract late last week, federal records show.

On Friday, the Interior Department added $6.2 million to the contract's previous cost, saying it now planned to pay $13.1 million to a Virginia firm called Atlantic Industrial Coatings. President Trump said he chose that company to repair the landmark because the firm had worked on the swimming pools at his golf club in Sterling, Va.

The government awarded that firm a no-bid contract last month, bypassing the requirement to seek competing offers by saying that the situation was so urgent that any delay would cause "serious injury" to the government. The government has not publicly said what that injury would have been.


https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/11/us/politics/reflecting-pool-paint-contract-trump.html?

Where the hell is DOGE?!?!

who is the owner, John Barron?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 11, 2026, 07:38:09 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/may/09/tensions-emerge-bejamin-netanyahu-donald-trump-alliance

Reading this really clarifies a few things.

1.  It's incredibly easy to manipulate the POTUS.

2.  It's also dangerous how POTUS loses interest in a problem he created and waves it away without much concern of geopolitics or the home front.

3.  The best case scenario is Netanyahu is voted out of office in October.  He's a blight on humanity and the world.

4.  That said, I fear this will escalate over the next few months as he tries to strengthen his position at home to avoid being held responsible for his crimes.

5.  China continues to be the biggest benefactor of this war.  If they're playing uno, they don't hold any cards because they've already won.  Concessions coming from the US in this summit could truly endanger our allies in the Pacific who will have no choice but to turn to China.

6.  Europe is lost.  Our partnership with them is over.  They no longer see a partner but see an empty shell of a friend who has abandoned them.  Our grandfathers, great-grandfathers and fathers who perished on European soil have seen their graves urinated on by this administration who called them losers.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TallTitan34 on May 11, 2026, 09:35:49 PM
https://x.com/wsj/status/2053869395550572926?s=46
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on May 11, 2026, 09:37:14 PM
I've said it before. We already lost this war. China, Russia, and Iran are the big winners
 

Europe will never trust the backstabbing, treasonous liars (United States) again. At least in my lifetime.

Trump is a blight on all of humanity and everyone here needs to remember that when associating with MAGAT family members. They are just as evil as t-rump.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on May 11, 2026, 09:42:50 PM
Quote from: MU82 on May 11, 2026, 12:25:15 PMThe war doesn't really matter with other urgent (and urgently corrupt) needs like this one ...

President Trump said that his handpicked contractor would charge only $1.8 million to repair the Lincoln Memorial Reflecting Pool and paint it blue. The actual cost is now more than seven times that, after the Interior Department nearly doubled the size of the contract late last week, federal records show.

On Friday, the Interior Department added $6.2 million to the contract's previous cost, saying it now planned to pay $13.1 million to a Virginia firm called Atlantic Industrial Coatings. President Trump said he chose that company to repair the landmark because the firm had worked on the swimming pools at his golf club in Sterling, Va.

The government awarded that firm a no-bid contract last month, bypassing the requirement to seek competing offers by saying that the situation was so urgent that any delay would cause "serious injury" to the government. The government has not publicly said what that injury would have been.


https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/11/us/politics/reflecting-pool-paint-contract-trump.html?

Where the hell is DOGE?!?!

The company promotes itself as "woman owned." So no more DOGE and DEI is back Winning!
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on May 11, 2026, 10:41:59 PM
Quote from: Jockey on May 11, 2026, 09:37:14 PMI've said it before. We already lost this war. China, Russia, and Iran are the big winners
 

Europe will never trust the backstabbing, treasonous liars (United States) again. At least in my lifetime.

Trump is a blight on all of humanity and everyone here needs to remember that when associating with MAGAT family members. They are just as evil as t-rump.

If a decent person like Beshear or Shapiro or Gallego beats JV in 2028, the US-Europe relationship is reparable.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 12, 2026, 06:02:36 AM
Quote from: MU82 on May 11, 2026, 10:41:59 PMIf a decent person like Beshear or Shapiro or Gallego beats JV in 2028, the US-Europe relationship is reparable.

Why would Europe trust the American populace not to elect another reality TV star who bankrupts his businesses because we need a "businessman" to run this country (code for "we like his racist policies)?

It's not that easy in geopolitics.  The Middle East relationships are the next on the chopping block.  Our brazen attack on Iran has strained those and our lack of communication and respect of the positions we've put them in will haunt us for decades.

There is no reason for any nation in this world to trust America any longer.  Our populations arrogance and ignorance has been magnified to such a degree, that's who we are to them.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on May 12, 2026, 08:32:56 AM
war has consequences. Let's go Brandon!

https://www.cnbc.com/2026/05/12/cpi-inflation-april-2026-.html
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on May 12, 2026, 08:50:12 AM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on May 12, 2026, 08:32:56 AMwar has consequences. Let's go Brandon!

https://www.cnbc.com/2026/05/12/cpi-inflation-april-2026-.html

Some more of that winning.
Thanks Trump.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on May 12, 2026, 09:27:31 AM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on May 12, 2026, 08:32:56 AMwar has consequences. Let's go Brandon!

https://www.cnbc.com/2026/05/12/cpi-inflation-april-2026-.html

Real wages down for the month and for the year. That should play well for the mid-terms.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on May 12, 2026, 09:35:33 AM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on May 11, 2026, 07:38:09 PM2.  It's also dangerous how POTUS loses interest in a problem he created and waves it away without much concern of geopolitics or the home front.

Because there is nothing to personally grift for him. He thought he'd be stealing all the oil, a la Venezuela. He hoped he'd get to split the tolls charged for passage through the Strait.

He already successfully stole taxpayer money and gave it to Uday and Qusay for useless drones and robots, maybe he'll continue plundering that path.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on May 12, 2026, 09:44:52 AM
I'm sure the NY Times can both sides this into a question of Biden's mental acuity:

Harry Sisson
@harryjsisson
Trump had one of his worst mental health episodes yet last night, posting over 55 times in 3 hours. Here is the list:

10:15 PM - Accuses Obama of attempting a coup in 2016
10:15 PM - Says Obama worked with CIA to overthrow Trump
10:15 PM - Reposts tweet saying Obama is a "traitor" and that he should be arrested
10:22 PM - Attacks dominion voting systems for 2020 election saying they switched votes
10:22 PM - Says Fulton County, GA had their 2020 fraud exposed (there was none)
10:23 PM - Accuses Obama of personally making $120 million from Obamacare (wtf?)
10:23 PM - Cites quack lawyer Sidney Powell on the 2020 election
10:24 PM - Posts fake JFK Jr account that says Obama wiretapped Trump Tower
10:27 PM - Demands Senator Mark Kelly resign
10:29 PM - Claims neither Biden nor Harris were in charge of the Biden admin
10:29 PM - Attacks Fulton County, GA again
10:29 PM - Posts Fox News clip of Rep Ro Khanna
10:30 PM - Demands Jack Smith be arrested
10:30 PM - Accuses Obama, Clinton, and Comey of treason
10:39 PM - Reposts a tweet from a MAGA account saying they have secret intel proving Clinton and Obama committed crimes
10:39 PM - Reposts a MAGA tweet saying Hillary Clinton should be sent to Haiti
10:40 PM - Says the DOJ is "working hard" to arrest his enemies for treason
10:40 PM - Reposts a tweet attacking his own DOJ and Todd Blanche for no arrests of political enemies
10:40 PM - Posts a TikTok video of people stealing from a convenience store
10:41 PM - Posts a TikTok of someone taking a Door Dash order
10:41 PM - accuses Obama, John Brennan, and Clinton of sedition and treason again
10:42 PM - Posts a video of a man on CCTV footage knocking over food a waiter was carrying
10:47 PM - Calls Obama the "most DEMONIC FORCE" in American politics
10:47 PM - Posts a tweet from Mike Flynn saying 2020 election wasn't fair
10:49 PM - Attacks Dominion again claiming they stole the 2020 election (it wasn't)
10:51 PM - Reposts a fake Charlie Kirk account that claimed Obama blocked Hillary Clinton from being prosecuted
10:53 PM - Claims Obama was part of Hillary Clinton's emails in some way
11:28 PM - Claims a senior Democrat just testified under oath that Senator Adam Schiff leaked classified information
1:13 AM - Attacks the New York Times for reporting on the reflecting pool

This man is clearly not well.
5:21 AM · May 12, 2026

We have a psychotic paranoid running the country and our press treats it as just another day.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: tower912 on May 12, 2026, 09:56:27 AM
Sane-washing
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 12, 2026, 10:46:50 AM
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on May 12, 2026, 09:44:52 AMI'm sure the NY Times can both sides this into a question of Biden's mental acuity:

Harry Sisson
@harryjsisson
Trump had one of his worst mental health episodes yet last night, posting over 55 times in 3 hours. Here is the list:

10:15 PM - Accuses Obama of attempting a coup in 2016
10:15 PM - Says Obama worked with CIA to overthrow Trump
10:15 PM - Reposts tweet saying Obama is a "traitor" and that he should be arrested
10:22 PM - Attacks dominion voting systems for 2020 election saying they switched votes
10:22 PM - Says Fulton County, GA had their 2020 fraud exposed (there was none)
10:23 PM - Accuses Obama of personally making $120 million from Obamacare (wtf?)
10:23 PM - Cites quack lawyer Sidney Powell on the 2020 election
10:24 PM - Posts fake JFK Jr account that says Obama wiretapped Trump Tower
10:27 PM - Demands Senator Mark Kelly resign
10:29 PM - Claims neither Biden nor Harris were in charge of the Biden admin
10:29 PM - Attacks Fulton County, GA again
10:29 PM - Posts Fox News clip of Rep Ro Khanna
10:30 PM - Demands Jack Smith be arrested
10:30 PM - Accuses Obama, Clinton, and Comey of treason
10:39 PM - Reposts a tweet from a MAGA account saying they have secret intel proving Clinton and Obama committed crimes
10:39 PM - Reposts a MAGA tweet saying Hillary Clinton should be sent to Haiti
10:40 PM - Says the DOJ is "working hard" to arrest his enemies for treason
10:40 PM - Reposts a tweet attacking his own DOJ and Todd Blanche for no arrests of political enemies
10:40 PM - Posts a TikTok video of people stealing from a convenience store
10:41 PM - Posts a TikTok of someone taking a Door Dash order
10:41 PM - accuses Obama, John Brennan, and Clinton of sedition and treason again
10:42 PM - Posts a video of a man on CCTV footage knocking over food a waiter was carrying
10:47 PM - Calls Obama the "most DEMONIC FORCE" in American politics
10:47 PM - Posts a tweet from Mike Flynn saying 2020 election wasn't fair
10:49 PM - Attacks Dominion again claiming they stole the 2020 election (it wasn't)
10:51 PM - Reposts a fake Charlie Kirk account that claimed Obama blocked Hillary Clinton from being prosecuted
10:53 PM - Claims Obama was part of Hillary Clinton's emails in some way
11:28 PM - Claims a senior Democrat just testified under oath that Senator Adam Schiff leaked classified information
1:13 AM - Attacks the New York Times for reporting on the reflecting pool

This man is clearly not well.
5:21 AM · May 12, 2026

We have a psychotic paranoid running the country and our press treats it as just another day.

This is what America voted for.

Ignorance is a choice and we've been choosing it for a long time.  It will only get worse.

When they say it can't happen in America, they are wrong because we are a proudly and profoundly stupid people.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on May 12, 2026, 11:10:53 AM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on May 12, 2026, 06:02:36 AMWhy would Europe trust the American populace not to elect another reality TV star who bankrupts his businesses because we need a "businessman" to run this country (code for "we like his racist policies)?

It's not that easy in geopolitics.  The Middle East relationships are the next on the chopping block.  Our brazen attack on Iran has strained those and our lack of communication and respect of the positions we've put them in will haunt us for decades.

There is no reason for any nation in this world to trust America any longer.  Our populations arrogance and ignorance has been magnified to such a degree, that's who we are to them.


Because everything is short-term. From 2017-20, Europe couldn't trust The Worst President Ever. Then Biden earned back their trust. TWPE is tearing it down again. The next president could restore it ... or make it worse.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on May 12, 2026, 11:25:47 AM
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on May 12, 2026, 09:27:31 AMReal wages down for the month and for the year. That should play well for the mid-terms.

well, there's that redistricting thing.

In Indiana 5 Trump backed primary challengers won. The commercials were BRUTAL against those who dared not back Dear Leader's redistricting scheme.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 12, 2026, 11:33:12 AM
Quote from: MU82 on May 12, 2026, 11:10:53 AMBecause everything is short-term. From 2017-20, Europe couldn't trust The Worst President Ever. Then Biden earned back their trust. TWPE is tearing it down again. The next president could restore it ... or make it worse.

I'll believe it when I see it.  The ship has sailed (just not through the Strait of Hormuz)
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 12, 2026, 11:34:55 AM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on May 12, 2026, 11:25:47 AMwell, there's that redistricting thing.

In Indiana 5 Trump backed primary challengers won. The commercials were BRUTAL against those who dared not back Dear Leader's redistricting scheme.

War messaging isn't winning over voters, so we're back to creating boogeymen

https://bsky.app/profile/cfidd.bsky.social/post/3mlo6373g7s26

The amount of racism in the open in America at the moment is part of who we are and part of this war being an abject failure with Americans.  Play the hits to rally the base and ignore the colossal failure of their policies internationally.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on May 12, 2026, 11:36:45 AM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on May 12, 2026, 10:46:50 AMThis is what America voted for.

Ignorance is a choice and we've been choosing it for a long time.  It will only get worse.

When they say it can't happen in America, they are wrong because we are a proudly and profoundly stupid people.

I don't think it is stupidity per se, though you may be using that term to encompass a lot more than intelligence.

Starting with Ronnie Raygun and running through Michael Douglas' "Greed is Good" mantra in Wallstreet, to Gingrich's Contract on America, to Murdoch's gaslighting of the nation, all the way to present day fascist techbros, I think society as a whole decided being ethical, responsible citizens is for suckers.

Vast sums of money are the only thing that matters, and lying, cheating, and stealing is perfectly fine in pursuit of those piles of cash. Thus, we've ultimately ended up electing a leader that perfectly embodies those values or lack thereof.

Pretty much the opposite of what Marquette tried to teach us.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 12, 2026, 11:49:34 AM
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on May 12, 2026, 11:36:45 AMI don't think it is stupidity per se, though you may be using that term to encompass a lot more than intelligence.

Starting with Ronnie Raygun and running through Michael Douglas' "Greed is Good" mantra in Wallstreet, to Gingrich's Contract on America, to Murdoch's gaslighting of the nation, all the way to present day fascist techbros, I think society as a whole decided being ethical, responsible citizens is for suckers.

Vast sums of money are the only thing that matters, and lying, cheating, and stealing is perfectly fine in pursuit of those piles of cash. Thus, we've ultimately ended up electing a leader that perfectly embodies those values or lack thereof.

Pretty much the opposite of what Marquette tried to teach us.


I am using that term to describe the average voters values.

A social contract is an anathema to them.  The idea of lifting one another up is beneath them and only understand punishing those not like them.  It's part jealousy and fear.

You appeal to these people by preying on that fear and their ignorance.  We're attacking educational institutions and science because it exposes our ignorance.  Think of what we're doing nationally.  It's embarrassing how we attack education and science.

The wildest part are citizens in rural America supporting this.  They're the ones hurt most by what we are doing as a nation but just don't see it or refuse to.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on May 12, 2026, 12:00:07 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on May 12, 2026, 11:33:12 AMI'll believe it when I see it.  The ship has sailed (just not through the Strait of Hormuz)

Certainly. Like everything else in life, it's a "We'll see."
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on May 12, 2026, 12:35:51 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on May 12, 2026, 11:49:34 AMThe wildest part are citizens in rural America supporting this.  They're the ones hurt most by what we are doing as a nation but just don't see it or refuse to.

Rural America, and Fox denizens in general:

"If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on May 12, 2026, 01:42:53 PM
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on May 12, 2026, 09:44:52 AMI'm sure the NY Times can both sides this into a question of Biden's mental acuity:

Harry Sisson
@harryjsisson
Trump had one of his worst mental health episodes yet last night, posting over 55 times in 3 hours. Here is the list:

10:15 PM - Accuses Obama of attempting a coup in 2016
10:15 PM - Says Obama worked with CIA to overthrow Trump
10:15 PM - Reposts tweet saying Obama is a "traitor" and that he should be arrested
10:22 PM - Attacks dominion voting systems for 2020 election saying they switched votes
10:22 PM - Says Fulton County, GA had their 2020 fraud exposed (there was none)
10:23 PM - Accuses Obama of personally making $120 million from Obamacare (wtf?)
10:23 PM - Cites quack lawyer Sidney Powell on the 2020 election
10:24 PM - Posts fake JFK Jr account that says Obama wiretapped Trump Tower
10:27 PM - Demands Senator Mark Kelly resign
10:29 PM - Claims neither Biden nor Harris were in charge of the Biden admin
10:29 PM - Attacks Fulton County, GA again
10:29 PM - Posts Fox News clip of Rep Ro Khanna
10:30 PM - Demands Jack Smith be arrested
10:30 PM - Accuses Obama, Clinton, and Comey of treason
10:39 PM - Reposts a tweet from a MAGA account saying they have secret intel proving Clinton and Obama committed crimes
10:39 PM - Reposts a MAGA tweet saying Hillary Clinton should be sent to Haiti
10:40 PM - Says the DOJ is "working hard" to arrest his enemies for treason
10:40 PM - Reposts a tweet attacking his own DOJ and Todd Blanche for no arrests of political enemies
10:40 PM - Posts a TikTok video of people stealing from a convenience store
10:41 PM - Posts a TikTok of someone taking a Door Dash order
10:41 PM - accuses Obama, John Brennan, and Clinton of sedition and treason again
10:42 PM - Posts a video of a man on CCTV footage knocking over food a waiter was carrying
10:47 PM - Calls Obama the "most DEMONIC FORCE" in American politics
10:47 PM - Posts a tweet from Mike Flynn saying 2020 election wasn't fair
10:49 PM - Attacks Dominion again claiming they stole the 2020 election (it wasn't)
10:51 PM - Reposts a fake Charlie Kirk account that claimed Obama blocked Hillary Clinton from being prosecuted
10:53 PM - Claims Obama was part of Hillary Clinton's emails in some way
11:28 PM - Claims a senior Democrat just testified under oath that Senator Adam Schiff leaked classified information
1:13 AM - Attacks the New York Times for reporting on the reflecting pool

This man is clearly not well.
5:21 AM · May 12, 2026

We have a psychotic paranoid running the country and our press treats it as just another day.


Blame t-rump voters. Verbally. Out loud. To everyone.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 12, 2026, 02:15:24 PM
https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3mloewj4pcq26

They don't care about you.  But they will gaslight you
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jay Bee on May 12, 2026, 02:55:36 PM
LCJ central!

Good thing you guys are speaking up to each other on a bball message board. lol
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 12, 2026, 03:20:03 PM
Quote from: Jay Bee on May 12, 2026, 02:55:36 PMLCJ central!

Good thing you guys are speaking up to each other on a bball message board. lol

Do you attack trans people outside Scoop?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 12, 2026, 03:23:34 PM
The cost of this war continues to rise.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/watch-live-hegseth-questioned-amid-120243541.html

Proposed military budget would be a 42% increase, nearing $1.5 trillion.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on May 12, 2026, 04:29:18 PM
Mexico will pay for the war.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on May 12, 2026, 04:41:34 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on May 12, 2026, 03:23:34 PMThe cost of this war continues to rise.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/watch-live-hegseth-questioned-amid-120243541.html

Proposed military budget would be a 42% increase, nearing $1.5 trillion.

Not after ever-vigilant DOGE gets ahold of it!
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on May 12, 2026, 05:32:55 PM
Well, this sucks ...

The Trump administration's public portrayal of a shattered Iranian military is sharply at odds with what U.S. intelligence agencies are telling policymakers behind closed doors, according to classified assessments from early this month that show Iran has regained access to most of its missile sites, launchers and underground facilities.

Most alarming to some senior officials is evidence that Iran has restored operational access to 30 of the 33 missile sites it maintains along the Strait of Hormuz, which could threaten American warships and oil tankers transiting the narrow waterway.


https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/12/us/politics/iran-missiles-us-intelligence.html?

People with knowledge of the assessments said they show — to varying degrees, depending on the level of damage incurred at the different sites — that the Iranians can use mobile launchers that are inside the sites to move missiles to other locations. In some cases they can launch missiles directly from launchpads that are part of the facilities. Only three of the missile sites along the strait remain totally inaccessible, according to the assessments.

Iran still fields about 70 percent of its mobile launchers across the country and has retained roughly 70 percent of its prewar missile stockpile, according to the assessments. That stockpile encompasses both ballistic missiles, which can target other nations in the region, and a smaller supply of cruise missiles, which can be used against shorter-range targets on land or at sea.

Military intelligence agencies have also reported, based on information from multiple collection streams including satellite imagery and other surveillance technologies, that Iran has regained access to roughly 90 percent of its underground missile storage and launch facilities nationwide, which are now assessed to be "partially or fully operational," the people with knowledge of the assessments said.

The findings undercut months of public assurances from President Trump and Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, who have told Americans that the Iranian military was "decimated" and "no longer" a threat.


I really wish we were winning. But even at $1B a day, and even with the collective brainpower of Capt. Bone Spur and Weekend Host Kegger leading America's charge, we are not.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: forgetful on May 12, 2026, 05:38:12 PM
Quote from: MU82 on May 12, 2026, 05:32:55 PMWell, this sucks ...

The Trump administration's public portrayal of a shattered Iranian military is sharply at odds with what U.S. intelligence agencies are telling policymakers behind closed doors, according to classified assessments from early this month that show Iran has regained access to most of its missile sites, launchers and underground facilities.

Most alarming to some senior officials is evidence that Iran has restored operational access to 30 of the 33 missile sites it maintains along the Strait of Hormuz, which could threaten American warships and oil tankers transiting the narrow waterway.


https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/12/us/politics/iran-missiles-us-intelligence.html?

People with knowledge of the assessments said they show — to varying degrees, depending on the level of damage incurred at the different sites — that the Iranians can use mobile launchers that are inside the sites to move missiles to other locations. In some cases they can launch missiles directly from launchpads that are part of the facilities. Only three of the missile sites along the strait remain totally inaccessible, according to the assessments.

Iran still fields about 70 percent of its mobile launchers across the country and has retained roughly 70 percent of its prewar missile stockpile, according to the assessments. That stockpile encompasses both ballistic missiles, which can target other nations in the region, and a smaller supply of cruise missiles, which can be used against shorter-range targets on land or at sea.

Military intelligence agencies have also reported, based on information from multiple collection streams including satellite imagery and other surveillance technologies, that Iran has regained access to roughly 90 percent of its underground missile storage and launch facilities nationwide, which are now assessed to be "partially or fully operational," the people with knowledge of the assessments said.

The findings undercut months of public assurances from President Trump and Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, who have told Americans that the Iranian military was "decimated" and "no longer" a threat.


I really wish we were winning. But even at $1B a day, and even with the collective brainpower of Capt. Bone Spur and Weekend Host Kegger leading America's charge, we are not.

If I was the UAE, I'd be hoping for a US/Iran deal. Their last-minute secret attacks on Iran right before the ceasefire likely struck a nerve.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on May 13, 2026, 10:16:32 AM
As Dr. Jesus stated thousands of times during the campaign, he's laser-focused on keeping us out of wars and reducing the prices of everything ...

(https://ecp.yusercontent.com/mail?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic01.nyt.com%2Fimages%2F2026%2F05%2F12%2Fbriefing%2FoakImage-1778616677648%2FoakImage-1778616677648-jumbo.png&t=1778684586&ymreqid=3c8d0d78-3338-e941-1ca2-650032014c00&sig=bIYDuqCyKFTiJDtSqndSPg--~D)
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Hards Alumni on May 13, 2026, 01:58:18 PM
Quote from: MU82 on May 11, 2026, 10:41:59 PMIf a decent person like Beshear or Shapiro or Gallego beats JV in 2028, the US-Europe relationship is reparable.

None of them will be the candidates in 2028.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on May 13, 2026, 02:04:28 PM
Quote from: Hards Alumni on May 13, 2026, 01:58:18 PMNone of them will be the candidates in 2028.

We'll see! Who knows? ... There might not be an election in 2028.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: NCMUFan on May 13, 2026, 03:56:04 PM
Quote from: Jay Bee on May 12, 2026, 02:55:36 PMLCJ central!

Good thing you guys are speaking up to each other on a bball message board. lol
What?? I thought this was SNN-Scoop New Network.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TallTitan34 on May 13, 2026, 07:18:04 PM
Quote from: MU82 on May 13, 2026, 10:16:32 AMAs Dr. Jesus stated thousands of times during the campaign, he's laser-focused on keeping us out of wars and reducing the prices of everything ...

(https://ecp.yusercontent.com/mail?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic01.nyt.com%2Fimages%2F2026%2F05%2F12%2Fbriefing%2FoakImage-1778616677648%2FoakImage-1778616677648-jumbo.png&t=1778684586&ymreqid=3c8d0d78-3338-e941-1ca2-650032014c00&sig=bIYDuqCyKFTiJDtSqndSPg--~D)

https://x.com/dailymail/status/2054590914618708096?s=46
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Shaka Shart on May 13, 2026, 07:37:07 PM
Quote from: NCMUFan on May 13, 2026, 03:56:04 PMWhat?? I thought this was SNN-Scoop New Network.

Are you rebutting anything or just sticking to complaining that it's brought up
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Mutaman on May 14, 2026, 01:53:10 AM
Quote from: MU82 on May 12, 2026, 04:41:34 PMNot after ever-vigilant DOGE gets ahold of it!

https://i.abcnewsfe.com/a/78a260f0-dce8-41c2-a00e-4003798433f3/doge-bro-2-ht-jt-260313_1773436115379_hpEmbed_16x9.jpg?w=1500
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on May 14, 2026, 10:30:01 AM
From the NYT DealBook e-newsletter:

Could bond traders force the White House to change tack on Iran? Turbulence in the sovereign debt market played a role last April when Trump temporarily paused many of his tariffs. The 10-Year Treasury's yield hit a high of 4.48 percent two days later and then eased.

(https://ecp.yusercontent.com/mail?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic01.nyt.com%2Fimages%2F2026%2F05%2F14%2Fbusiness%2F14db-chart%2F14db-chart-jumbo.png&t=1778771972&ymreqid=3c8d0d78-3338-e941-1ca2-6500c5014c00&sig=oJq1oNvV2kcMgdU4ktLsmQ--~D)

But reaching a peace deal with Iran — one that reopens the Strait of Hormuz — is a complicated diplomatic undertaking.

The prospects don't look great. Treasury yields lately have correlated with oil prices. Both have soared since the start of the war; analysts warn that bond yields could climb further if the war drags on.

That could put Kevin Warsh in a bind. The Senate yesterday confirmed his nomination as Fed chair. Trump has said he expects a Warsh-led Fed to lower interest rates soon.

But policymakers at the central bank, concerned about rising inflation, appear inclined to stand pat. That could revive Trump's irritation with the Fed.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: WellsstreetWanderer on May 14, 2026, 12:31:36 PM
Love all the pearl clutching here while ignoring completely the almost daily announcements of billions of dollars of fraud being uncovered. Just 1.3Billion alone held back from hospice care facilities in Los Angeles. 800 hospices denied funds and almost zero complaints.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: wadesworld on May 14, 2026, 12:37:42 PM
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on May 14, 2026, 12:31:36 PMLove all the pearl clutching here while ignoring completely the almost daily announcements of billions of dollars of fraud being uncovered. Just 1.3Billion alone held back from hospice care facilities in Los Angeles. 800 hospices denied funds and almost zero complaints.

Thanks for getting us discussing the important things going on in this country.  Not the pointless war driving up cost of living for everyone, but rather where our taxpayer money is ending up.  In the President's pocket, as it is meant to be, of course.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/12/business/trump-suit-irs.html
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Hards Alumni on May 14, 2026, 12:46:47 PM
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on May 14, 2026, 12:31:36 PMLove all the pearl clutching here while ignoring completely the almost daily announcements of billions of dollars of fraud being uncovered. Just 1.3Billion alone held back from hospice care facilities in Los Angeles. 800 hospices denied funds and almost zero complaints.

The idea that those people weren't being caught prior to 2024 is laughable.

Additionally, Trump has pardoned a bunch of people convicted of fraud.  Where is your outrage for that?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 14, 2026, 01:22:17 PM
Quote from: Hards Alumni on May 14, 2026, 12:46:47 PMThe idea that those people weren't being caught prior to 2024 is laughable.

Additionally, Trump has pardoned a bunch of people convicted of fraud.  Where is your outrage for that?

That's different.  Those are poor people
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 14, 2026, 01:22:51 PM
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on May 14, 2026, 12:31:36 PMLove all the pearl clutching here while ignoring completely the almost daily announcements of billions of dollars of fraud being uncovered. Just 1.3Billion alone held back from hospice care facilities in Los Angeles. 800 hospices denied funds and almost zero complaints.

Start a thread
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Hards Alumni on May 14, 2026, 01:27:50 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on May 14, 2026, 01:22:17 PMThat's different.  Those are poor people

It's not even that, you just have to kiss the ring, and you can commit fraud and be rich too!

Look no further than our reflecting pool painter. 
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 14, 2026, 01:39:11 PM
Quote from: Hards Alumni on May 14, 2026, 01:27:50 PMIt's not even that, you just have to kiss the ring, and you can commit fraud and be rich too!

Look no further than our reflecting pool painter. 

All the while, inflation is up, consumer goods are up, fertilizer is through the roof, and shipping costs haven't even caused real upward pressure yet.

Greatest economy the world has ever seen.

All because Israel tricked our president into a war with Iran.

At least China is winning.  Look at all the Chinese restaurants!  It's crazy!
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jay Bee on May 14, 2026, 02:25:35 PM
Dow well over 50,000!
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on May 14, 2026, 02:27:31 PM
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on May 14, 2026, 12:31:36 PMLove all the pearl clutching here while ignoring completely the almost daily announcements of billions of dollars of fraud being uncovered. Just 1.3Billion alone held back from hospice care facilities in Los Angeles. 800 hospices denied funds and almost zero complaints.

You worship the biggest fraudster in American history.

Throw in his corrupt sons, and the son-in-law who has been handed billions by Middle East kingdoms, and that should be enough fraud to keep any DOJ busy.

Except this DOJ, of course. They're only going after your lord and master's "enemies."
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on May 14, 2026, 02:28:28 PM
Quote from: Jay Bee on May 14, 2026, 02:25:35 PMDow well over 50,000!

Thanks Pam!
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 14, 2026, 02:53:30 PM
Quote from: Jay Bee on May 14, 2026, 02:25:35 PMDow well over 50,000!

Gas well over $4.50 in Milwaukee
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jay Bee on May 14, 2026, 03:08:18 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on May 14, 2026, 02:53:30 PMGas well over $4.50 in Milwaukee

Small change, jack.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: 21Jumpstreet on May 14, 2026, 03:35:54 PM
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on May 14, 2026, 12:31:36 PMLove all the pearl clutching here while ignoring completely the almost daily announcements of billions of dollars of fraud being uncovered. Just 1.3Billion alone held back from hospice care facilities in Los Angeles. 800 hospices denied funds and almost zero complaints.

Gotta fund the war
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 14, 2026, 05:16:04 PM
Quote from: Jay Bee on May 14, 2026, 03:08:18 PMSmall change, jack.

It's isn't for the average family.  Prices are skyrocketing on everything.

War in the Middle East that we were promised wouldn't happen, happened.

Promises made, promises kept.

Fiscal conservatism out the window and the average American suffers.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: jesmu84 on May 14, 2026, 07:55:25 PM
https://x.com/i/status/2055087328461291638
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: tower912 on May 14, 2026, 08:04:57 PM
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on May 14, 2026, 12:31:36 PMLove all the pearl clutching here while ignoring completely the almost daily announcements of billions of dollars of fraud being uncovered. Just 1.3Billion alone held back from hospice care facilities in Los Angeles. 800 hospices denied funds and almost zero complaints.
Pennies on the ground next to the gold statue homage to corruption.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: #UnleashThePortal on May 14, 2026, 08:21:07 PM
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on May 14, 2026, 12:31:36 PMLove all the pearl clutching here while ignoring completely the almost daily announcements of billions of dollars of fraud being uncovered. Just 1.3Billion alone held back from hospice care facilities in Los Angeles. 800 hospices denied funds and almost zero complaints.

What's the price of gas again?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 14, 2026, 09:22:46 PM
lol

https://bsky.app/profile/thebulwark.com/post/3mluavrta6k2t

"The strong Chinese leader had many men march and they wept"
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TallTitan34 on May 14, 2026, 09:48:17 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on May 14, 2026, 12:37:42 PMThanks for getting us discussing the important things going on in this country.  Not the pointless war driving up cost of living for everyone, but rather where our taxpayer money is ending up.  In the President's pocket, as it is meant to be, of course.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/12/business/trump-suit-irs.html

Congrats to the Jan 6th'ers on their $1.7B of tax payer money.

https://x.com/abc/status/2055051302317560290?s=46
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: forgetful on May 14, 2026, 10:05:11 PM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on May 14, 2026, 09:48:17 PMCongrats to the Jan 6th'ers on their $1.7B of tax payer money.

https://x.com/abc/status/2055051302317560290?s=46

Comey, Brennan, Letitia James, Mark Kelly, Jerome Powell, Lisa Cook, the Southern Poverty Law Center, and many others are going to be very wealthy.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: pbiflyer on May 15, 2026, 05:32:11 AM
Quote from: Jay Bee on May 14, 2026, 02:25:35 PMDow well over 50,000!

Safe to ignore the pedophiles again! Trump and company must be so relieved
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 15, 2026, 05:49:38 AM
The cost of the war in Iran to the citizens of Milwaukee:

https://www.wisn.com/article/milwaukee-gas-prices-surge-driving-up-grocery-costs/71312875

Gas prices now up to $4.66

Ground Beef up 3.1%

Whole Milk up 2.9%

Tomatoes up 12.8%

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DYCXucAqH5b/?igsh=MXFxNDZrdTBoNTl2aw==


Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: forgetful on May 15, 2026, 08:01:35 AM
I don't see how anyone can read the outcomes from the China meetings and not come to the conclusion that we have capitulated our power to the Chinese.

I'd put a Chinese blockade of Taiwan as very likely if we go through with arms sales to Taiwan. They might hold off on it, but the odds of a Chinese/Taiwan conflict have definitely risen.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 15, 2026, 08:04:36 AM
Quote from: forgetful on May 15, 2026, 08:01:35 AMI don't see how anyone can read the outcomes from the China meetings and not come to the conclusion that we have capitulated our power to the Chinese.

I'd put a Chinese blockade of Taiwan as very likely if we go through with arms sales to Taiwan. They might hold off on it, but the odds of a Chinese/Taiwan conflict have definitely risen.

Doesn't take much to outwit the vainglorious
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Hards Alumni on May 15, 2026, 08:11:39 AM
Quote from: forgetful on May 15, 2026, 08:01:35 AMI don't see how anyone can read the outcomes from the China meetings and not come to the conclusion that we have capitulated our power to the Chinese.

I'd put a Chinese blockade of Taiwan as very likely if we go through with arms sales to Taiwan. They might hold off on it, but the odds of a Chinese/Taiwan conflict have definitely risen.

I thought that was fairly obvious years ago.  China has been ascending for decades.  It has its own set of problems, but they pale in comparison to the United States.

IMO, Taiwan sees the writing on the wall in the near future and will work out a deal with the CCP to transition to reunification with the mainland.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on May 15, 2026, 09:04:17 AM
Quote from: Hards Alumni on May 15, 2026, 08:11:39 AMI thought that was fairly obvious years ago.  China has been ascending for decades.  It has its own set of problems, but they pale in comparison to the United States.

IMO, Taiwan sees the writing on the wall in the near future and will work out a deal with the CCP to transition to reunification with the mainland.

First paragraph is absolutely true.

Second paragraph couldn't be more wrong.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Hards Alumni on May 15, 2026, 09:05:04 AM
Quote from: Jockey on May 15, 2026, 09:04:17 AMFirst paragraph is absolutely true.

Second paragraph couldn't be more wrong.

Sounds like you're using outdated information.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on May 15, 2026, 09:28:21 AM
Even the blockade of the blockade was a failure ...

Iran said it had allowed some Chinese ships to pass through the Strait of Hormuz at Beijing's request.

And a New York Times analysis showed that some ships carrying Iranian oil to Asia sailed through the strait last month despite the U.S. blockade.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: JWags85 on May 15, 2026, 09:56:07 AM
Quote from: Hards Alumni on May 15, 2026, 09:05:04 AMSounds like you're using outdated information.

I can't speak to the current government/ruling party mentality on it, but such a decision would be WILDLY and overwhelming unpopular.  Last time I saw in Asian press, back in March when I was in HK, it was something like 72% of Taiwanese would flat out oppose reunification in the "1 country, 2 systems model" and actual support for it was like 10-12%. Speaking to older Taiwanese people (60-70 years old) and they will say their parents generation were the last to hold any sort of feeling of being Chinese, as opposed to fully feeling Taiwanese as a separation.

I wouldn't be surprised if seeing the last 10 years of development in HK exacerbated it as the idea of HK being separate from China, with its own rules and regulations, gets chipped away at year by year.

That's not to say it won't happen, but that would solely be a governmental action due to extreme pressure (whether militarily or economically) in the face of profound opposing public sentiment and not a decision reflecting a change in a prevailing national or cultural shift in mindset or perspective.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Hards Alumni on May 15, 2026, 10:03:39 AM
Quote from: JWags85 on May 15, 2026, 09:56:07 AMI can't speak to the current government/ruling party mentality on it, but such a decision would be WILDLY and overwhelming unpopular.  Last time I saw in Asian press, back in March when I was in HK, it was something like 72% of Taiwanese would flat out oppose reunification in the "1 country, 2 systems model" and actual support for it was like 10-12%. Speaking to older Taiwanese people (60-70 years old) and they will say their parents generation were the last to hold any sort of feeling of being Chinese, as opposed to fully feeling Taiwanese as a separation.

I wouldn't be surprised if seeing the last 10 years of development in HK exacerbated it as the idea of HK being separate from China, with its own rules and regulations, gets chipped away at year by year.

That's not to say it won't happen, but that would solely be a governmental action due to extreme pressure (whether militarily or economically) in the face of profound opposing public sentiment and not a decision reflecting a change in a prevailing national or cultural shift in mindset or perspective.

It doesn't matter how popular the idea is among the people, the only thing that matters is the leadership.  Additionally, I think they see what has happened with Iran, and the US being woefully unprepared to deal with a non-peer opponent.  What hope does Taiwan have with the US as its primary backer?  Sure, Taiwan could hold out for a while if the Chinese attempt an invasion, but they will eventually overwhelm and defeat the Taiwanese government.  And China doesn't care if it has to start over on the island, retaking it is a matter of pride.

Also, I just don't see Taiwan looking at the situation and saying, "Yes, we will fight even if it costs us everything".  Yes, the US and the national government has radicalized the populace, but when push comes to shove, I think an agreement happens... and yes, it will be similar to HK, and the transition will be similar.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on May 15, 2026, 10:21:07 AM
Quote from: Hards Alumni on May 15, 2026, 09:05:04 AMSounds like you're using outdated information.

No.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Hards Alumni on May 15, 2026, 10:32:17 AM
Quote from: Jockey on May 15, 2026, 10:21:07 AMNo.

Thanks for elaborating.  Nothing that has happened in the last 6 months has changed anything.

Great analysis.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on May 15, 2026, 11:38:21 AM
Quote from: Hards Alumni on May 15, 2026, 10:32:17 AMThanks for elaborating.  Nothing that has happened in the last 6 months has changed anything.

Great analysis.

You were wrong. Wags covered it well. Reunification means getting swallowed up by the dictatorial communist regime. It will not happen without war (which, sadly becomes more likely with the pedo—in-chief).

As a matter of fact, I have a $50 bet that the pedo will either cut troops in the far east OR cut weapons sales to Taiwan in the next 60 days after getting stomped on by Xi.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Hards Alumni on May 15, 2026, 11:45:55 AM
Quote from: Jockey on May 15, 2026, 11:38:21 AMYou were wrong. Wags covered it well. Reunification means getting swallowed up by the dictatorial communist regime. It will not happen without war (which, sadly becomes more likely with the pedo—in-chief).

As a matter of fact, I have a $50 bet that the pedo will either cut troops in the far east OR cut weapons sales to Taiwan in the next 60 days after getting stomped on by Xi.

I'm not sure how anyone can be 'wrong' about something that hasn't happened yet.  Wags generally agrees with my stance.  War is certainly possible, but Taiwan is recalculating its chances of actually repelling China, and as I mentioned, those chances are getting smaller each day.  Without the help of the US they're doomed, their population and economy is doomed.  Almost no one in the world recognizes them as a country, and if the US isn't defending them, no one will be.  They can be annoying for a while, but China has over 2 million in its army, and Taiwan has 1/10 of that.  Taiwan can be blockaded and bombed and missle striked into submission.  Only with the direct assistance of the US does Taiwan have a sliver of a chance of surviving.

You're living in the past.  As usual.

Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MUBurrow on May 15, 2026, 11:46:39 AM
Quote from: Jockey on May 15, 2026, 11:38:21 AMYou were wrong. Wags covered it well. Reunification means getting swallowed up by the dictatorial communist regime. It will not happen without war (which, sadly becomes more likely with the pedo—in-chief).

As a matter of fact, I have a $50 bet that the pedo will either cut troops in the far east OR cut weapons sales to Taiwan in the next 60 days after getting stomped on by Xi.

Your focus on Trump is preventing you from being realistic on this.  If you're right about the second paragraph, it makes reunification without war much more likely.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 15, 2026, 12:02:30 PM
Quote from: MUBurrow on May 15, 2026, 11:46:39 AMYour focus on Trump is preventing you from being realistic on this.  If you're right about the second paragraph, it makes reunification without war much more likely.

China's getting Taiwan.  Just a matter of when.  Xi schlonged Trump this week, this year, this term.  Just a masterclass in dealing with narcissists.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on May 15, 2026, 01:17:53 PM
Quote from: MUBurrow on May 15, 2026, 11:46:39 AMYour focus on Trump is preventing you from being realistic on this.  If you're right about the second paragraph, it makes reunification without war much more likely.

The leaders and the populace are adamantly against reunification. If you and Hards think that makes it more likely, so be it.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Hards Alumni on May 15, 2026, 01:18:57 PM
Quote from: Jockey on May 15, 2026, 01:17:53 PMThe leaders and the populace are adamantly against reunification. If you and Hards think that makes it more likely, so be it.

Hong Kong is on line 1 for you
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on May 15, 2026, 01:26:36 PM
Quote from: Hards Alumni on May 15, 2026, 01:18:57 PMHong Kong is on line 1 for you

What does HK have to do with Taiwan. Completely different circumstances.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Hards Alumni on May 15, 2026, 01:35:55 PM
Quote from: Jockey on May 15, 2026, 01:26:36 PMWhat does HK have to do with Taiwan. Completely different circumstances.

Yes, the circumstances are different, but the outcome will be the same.  The people in HK protested back in 2019, for all the good it did.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: The Sultan on May 15, 2026, 01:55:38 PM
But the people of HK had no say in the matter. HK was leased by the UK for 99 years and the least ran out and China said they weren't going to extend it. Even if the UK wanted to, they weren't going to be able to prevent the UK from taking over

Taiwan is a defacto sovereign territory. They aren't going to willingly give up that sovereignty. Taking over Taiwan would be through the result of a military invasion - and one that may not go their way.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Hards Alumni on May 15, 2026, 02:25:31 PM
Quote from: The Sultan on May 15, 2026, 01:55:38 PMBut the people of HK had no say in the matter. HK was leased by the UK for 99 years and the least ran out and China said they weren't going to extend it. Even if the UK wanted to, they weren't going to be able to prevent the UK from taking over

Taiwan is a defacto sovereign territory. They aren't going to willingly give up that sovereignty. Taking over Taiwan would be through the result of a military invasion - and one that may not go their way.

The people of Taiwan have a say because they have a military.  Again, its 1/10th of what China can field currently.  Without the US they'll lose.  They know this.  They're on a rock that imports everything including 70% of their food, and basically all of its oil (150 day supply on hand).  China can lob missles and blockade the island and simply wait it out.  This is my entire point.  Without US intervention they'd have to submit in less than six months.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on May 15, 2026, 04:51:17 PM
Quote from: Hards Alumni on May 15, 2026, 01:35:55 PMYes, the circumstances are different, but the outcome will be the same.  The people in HK protested back in 2019, for all the good it did.

Umm, Hong Kong was ALREADY under Chinese control in 2019 when they protested. They came under Chinese control through a negotiated settlement with the British.

There is NO similarity to the situation in Taiwan.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on May 15, 2026, 05:02:12 PM
Quote from: Hards Alumni on May 15, 2026, 02:25:31 PMThe people of Taiwan have a say because they have a military.  Again, its 1/10th of what China can field currently.  Without the US they'll lose.  They know this.  They're on a rock that imports everything including 70% of their food, and basically all of its oil (150 day supply on hand).  China can lob missles and blockade the island and simply wait it out.  This is my entire point.  Without US intervention they'd have to submit in less than six months.

It's your point now that you realize you were wrong. You earlier compared the situation to HK when there is no similarity.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Hards Alumni on May 15, 2026, 06:03:02 PM
Quote from: Jockey on May 15, 2026, 05:02:12 PMIt's your point now that you realize you were wrong. You earlier compared the situation to HK when there is no similarity.


Time for bed, grandpa.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on May 15, 2026, 06:28:57 PM
Quote from: Hards Alumni on May 15, 2026, 06:03:02 PMTime for bed, grandpa.

Yup. I figured you ran out of bogus arguments.

And since you always need the last word, have at it.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jay Bee on May 15, 2026, 08:33:29 PM
Hards vs. Jokey part ??

What a glorious Friday night!!
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: jesmu84 on May 15, 2026, 10:34:48 PM
Trump warns Taiwan against declaring independence

I think that's a pretty clear sign where this admin stands on China-Taiwan dynamic
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 16, 2026, 07:40:14 AM
Quote from: jesmu84 on May 15, 2026, 10:34:48 PMTrump warns Taiwan against declaring independence

I think that's a pretty clear sign where this admin stands on China-Taiwan dynamic

Xi played him like a fiddle.  I'll never understand why anyone negotiating with him just wouldn't flatter him publicly and privately.  Pump up his ego and watch the art of the deal breakdown faster the current economy
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 16, 2026, 07:42:03 AM
Prices on goods running through the Strait of Hormuz will not be dropping anytime soon.

https://bsky.app/profile/shipwreck75.bsky.social/post/3mlxsw6q2ik2r

Brilliant gambit, America! 
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 16, 2026, 07:43:53 AM
Expect more military action soon

https://bsky.app/profile/shipwreck75.bsky.social/post/3mlxsqfl6s22r
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on May 16, 2026, 10:14:10 AM
The latest installment of You Get What You Voted For ...

Farmers across the Midwest are entering planting season under mounting financial pressure, as the Iran conflict drives up diesel and fertilizer prices — deepening the worst agricultural downturn in decades, report Nathan Bomey and Axios Local reporters across the Farm Belt.

Why it matters: Rising fuel and fertilizer costs threaten to kill more family farms, drive up food prices and further strain rural economies already battered by trade disruptions, inflation and extreme weather.

🖼� The big picture: Mark Mueller — a northeast Iowa farmer and president of the Iowa Corn Growers Association — tells Axios that the current landscape is tougher than at any time since the 1980s farm crisis, when interest rates soared and exports plunged, triggering agricultural bank failures.

Bankruptcies are rising. Lenders are becoming more reluctant to loan to farmers.

"There's going to be fewer farmers next year than this year," Mueller says.

Farmers are grappling with a confluence of forces:

🔌 Skyrocketing energy prices triggered by the Iran war. Diesel is up 60% from last year.

🌾 Spiking fertilizer prices and shortages after Iran blocked shipments through the Strait of Hormuz. 70% of farmers say they can't afford the fertilizer they need.

🇨🇳 Disrupted export markets tied to President Trump's tariffs and Chinese import restrictions.

💧 Global drought and other weather pressures.

🌽 The crisis is hitting farmers hard across the country:

In Arkansas, energy and fertilizer costs are way up even as farmers are selling their crops for less.

In Ohio, first-generation farmer Michael Kilpatrick said his fuel bills are up from $400 to $700, and container costs have risen 30%.

In Iowa, farmers are dealing with a decline in soybean prices from $13-$15 to around $10 per bushel, as exports to China have fallen due to trade tensions.

In Minnesota, calls to the state's farm and rural issues mental health helpline are climbing.

For consumers, the crisis is especially noticeable with beef.

The U.S. cattle herd is at its lowest level in decades, largely due to global drought.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on May 16, 2026, 12:29:09 PM
Quote from: jesmu84 on May 15, 2026, 10:34:48 PMTrump warns Taiwan against declaring independence

I think that's a pretty clear sign where this admin stands on China-Taiwan dynamic

The reason we are no longer a world power (even if you ignore we are losing a war with a second rate country):


Asked if he would approve a $14 billion arms package to Taiwan that has been held up for months, Trump said that's up to China.
"I'm holding that in abeyance and it depends on China," he said. "It's a very good negotiating chip for us, frankly. It's a lot of weapons."
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on May 18, 2026, 08:22:29 AM
This informative article talks about how autocratic leaders depend on the "loyal losers" they hire to keep them in power. It mentions Putin, Orban and, eventually, America's autocratic leader.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/18/world/americas/actually-democracy-dies-in-hr.html?

Ms. Frantz sees parallels between Mr. Trump's presidency and some of the elected authoritarian leaders she has studied elsewhere. Although Mr. Trump did not create the Republican Party, he has reshaped it over the last decade into an institution centered around himself. And a number of his cabinet members and political appointees, particularly in his second term, appear to fit the paradigm of loyalists whose résumés would be unlikely to land them roles in any other administration.

Obviously, the booze-loving Fox News weekend host who now runs our military - and the current flailing Iran war - is at the top of that list.

It also talks about how ICE agents, who once had to pass more than two dozen tests to get hired, are now barely being vetted before being unleashed on U.S. cities.

Ryan Schwank, a former training academy instructor, testified to Congress in February that new cadets "are graduating from the academy despite widespread concerns among training staff that even in the final days of training, the cadets cannot demonstrate a solid grasp of the tactics or the law required to perform their jobs."
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on May 18, 2026, 09:33:26 AM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on May 16, 2026, 07:42:03 AMPrices on goods running through the Strait of Hormuz will not be dropping anytime soon.

https://bsky.app/profile/shipwreck75.bsky.social/post/3mlxsw6q2ik2r

Brilliant gambit, America!

$4.92/gallon in MI for 87 octane. My brother said "that was my first $80 fill up" on Saturday after filling his his XT4. God Bless the USA!
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on May 18, 2026, 10:01:44 AM
Sounding again like a demented cartoon supervillain, Capt. Bone Spur posted a Lies Social rant in which he said Iran had better agree to his terms soon "or there won't be anything left."

Of course, tomorrow is another TACO Tuesday.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TallTitan34 on May 18, 2026, 10:07:07 AM
Quote from: MU82 on May 18, 2026, 10:01:44 AMSounding again like a demented cartoon supervillain...

I think Roger Stone has to take the crown as the biggest cartoon supervillain in the Trump Cinematic Universe.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 18, 2026, 10:43:46 AM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on May 18, 2026, 09:33:26 AM$4.92/gallon in MI for 87 octane. My brother said "that was my first $80 fill up" on Saturday after filling his his XT4. God Bless the USA!

Couple that with consumer goods skyrocketing, and it's a recipe for disaster. 

When we do a farm relief bill in the near future, that'll be on the taxpayer, too.

Don't think it'll get bad enough we have to do a stimulus check but we're probably closer to having to do that than we think.  Socialism run amok.  We need real fiscal conservatism.  Wish there was a political party that practiced it for all Americans and not just when it comes to minorities.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: tower912 on May 18, 2026, 10:49:49 AM
A party that practices fiscal logic, avoids foreign entanglements, without hating women, LGBTQ, or people of color?

I am intrigued.

Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on May 18, 2026, 11:01:29 AM
Quote from: MU82 on May 18, 2026, 10:01:44 AMSounding again like a demented cartoon supervillain, Capt. Bone Spur posted a Lies Social rant in which he said Iran had better agree to his terms soon "or there won't be anything left."

Of course, tomorrow is another TACO Tuesday.

Is he referring to his approval numbers?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TallTitan34 on May 18, 2026, 11:13:00 AM
It's happening.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-settles-10-billion-lawsuit-against-irs/
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on May 18, 2026, 11:19:08 AM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on May 18, 2026, 11:13:00 AMIt's happening.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-settles-10-billion-lawsuit-against-irs/

Yup. The Grifter In Chief has circumvented America's legal system to build an enormous, taxpayer-funded slush fund so he can hand out bigly bucks to his cultists and cronies.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 18, 2026, 11:27:29 AM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on May 18, 2026, 11:13:00 AMIt's happening.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-settles-10-billion-lawsuit-against-irs/

More of that fiscal conservatism and war against corruption.  When will the grift end?  When will taxpayers be spared the naked money grab of the current administration?  Simply shameful.

The fiscal irresponsibility and corruption of this war are something to behold.  Corruption and zero concern for the American taxpayer.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on May 18, 2026, 12:21:21 PM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on May 18, 2026, 11:13:00 AMIt's happening.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-settles-10-billion-lawsuit-against-irs/

Is he paying off all cop killers? Or just cops killers who try to overthrow our democracy?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on May 18, 2026, 12:32:38 PM
Quote from: MU82 on May 18, 2026, 11:19:08 AMYup. The Grifter In Chief has circumvented America's legal system to build an enormous, taxpayer-funded slush fund so he can hand out bigly bucks to his cultists and cronies.

It's called "draining the swamp." Don't you know that?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on May 20, 2026, 09:22:50 AM
"Everyone tells me it's unpopular, but I think it's very popular." - Capt. Bone Spur, referring to his unnecessary and costly Iran war.

He made that comment while showing reporters something really important - the grotesque, golden ballroom for which he wants to fleece taxpayers.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jay Bee on May 20, 2026, 09:27:28 AM
Quote from: MU82 on May 20, 2026, 09:22:50 AM"Everyone tells me it's unpopular, but I think it's very popular." - Capt. Bone Spur, referring to his unnecessary and costly Iran war.

He made that comment while showing reporters something really important - the grotesque, golden ballroom for which he wants to fleece taxpayers.

Ooh, more truth to power political speak from a BC.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 20, 2026, 09:39:54 AM
Quote from: Jay Bee on May 20, 2026, 09:27:28 AMOoh, more truth to power political speak from a BC.

You can always tell who the alpha is when he has to tell you he's an alpha.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on May 20, 2026, 10:09:36 AM
Quote from: Jay Bee on May 20, 2026, 09:27:28 AMOoh, more truth to power political speak from a BC.

Thanks. You're right about me being a Bold Commenter.

Sorry your hero thinks that a war polling at a 65% disapproval rate is "very popular." That must be painful for you. I hope he invites you for a dance in the ballroom.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jay Bee on May 20, 2026, 10:42:28 AM
Quote from: MU82 on May 20, 2026, 10:09:36 AMThanks. You're right about me being a Bold Commenter.

Sorry your hero thinks that a war polling at a 65% disapproval rate is "very popular." That must be painful for you. I hope he invites you for a dance in the ballroom.

BC, as you know, your president is not my hero. Never have I voted for him.

Condolences re: Barney. I understand you're extra e-motional today.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 20, 2026, 11:04:42 AM
Quote from: MU82 on May 20, 2026, 10:09:36 AMThanks. You're right about me being a Bold Commenter.

Sorry your hero thinks that a war polling at a 65% disapproval rate is "very popular." That must be painful for you. I hope he invites you for a dance in the ballroom.

Very rarely do wars in the early stage like this have such poor polling numbers. 

It's unpopular at home and abroad.  The costs to the American taxpayer will continue to add up and make it less popular by the day.

We haven't seen it yet, but it's also likely we'll see an attack on a population base popular with Americans at some point, too.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on May 20, 2026, 11:52:15 AM
Quote from: Jay Bee on May 20, 2026, 10:42:28 AMBC, as you know, your president is not my hero. Never have I voted for him.

Condolences re: Barney. I understand you're extra e-motional today.

It's sad when people die. But I understand you cheer the deaths of people you don't like - just as your hero does.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on May 20, 2026, 11:53:57 AM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on May 20, 2026, 11:04:42 AMVery rarely do wars in the early stage like this have such poor polling numbers. 

It's unpopular at home and abroad.  The costs to the American taxpayer will continue to add up and make it less popular by the day.

We haven't seen it yet, but it's also likely we'll see an attack on a population base popular with Americans at some point, too.

From Axios:

Small business profits are sinking as owners get squeezed by rising labor costs and energy prices spiking from the Iran war, according to a new Bank of America Institute report.

Why it matters: Businesses with fewer than 250 workers created half of all new jobs over the past half-decade.

By the numbers: Small business profitability in April suffered its biggest decline in two years, falling 1.3% after gas prices spiked, according to the report.

Small businesses spent 31% more on gasoline in April than they did a year earlier.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 20, 2026, 12:01:28 PM
Quote from: MU82 on May 20, 2026, 11:53:57 AMFrom Axios:

Small business profits are sinking as owners get squeezed by rising labor costs and energy prices spiking from the Iran war, according to a new Bank of America Institute report.

Why it matters: Businesses with fewer than 250 workers created half of all new jobs over the past half-decade.

By the numbers: Small business profitability in April suffered its biggest decline in two years, falling 1.3% after gas prices spiked, according to the report.

Small businesses spent 31% more on gasoline in April than they did a year earlier.

Pennies add up fast
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on May 20, 2026, 08:26:15 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on May 20, 2026, 12:01:28 PMPennies add up fast

But they are glad to lose money to prevent nuclear bombs from raining down on our cities.

We should be thanking the pedo.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jay Bee on May 20, 2026, 08:39:45 PM
Quote from: Jockey on May 20, 2026, 08:26:15 PMWe should be thanking the pedo.

Yeah, u tell 'em buddy!  #LCJpower
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 21, 2026, 06:16:50 AM
Quote from: Jay Bee on May 20, 2026, 08:39:45 PMYeah, u tell 'em buddy!  #LCJpower

More people should tell 'em.  Pretty disgusting for the victims there are people out there like you that would rather protect a political party than hold those accountable that raped children.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 21, 2026, 06:22:28 AM
Saudi's asked Trump to delay another attack on Iran until after the Hajj.

Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on May 22, 2026, 07:48:58 AM
From the Daily Beast:

President Donald Trump's war with Iran has left dozens of U.S. airplanes damaged and destroyed, a new congressional report has revealed.

Casualties and equipment loss reports have been few and far between for a war that has cost the U.S. billions, with the Defense Department failing to publish its own comprehensive summary of the damage suffered during the fighting.

Several major incidents, such as the downing of two pilots over Iran, have garnered significant attention, while other incidents have flown more under the radar. Now the Congressional Research Service says the total number of lost or damaged vehicles could be as high as 42.

The group serves as a nonpartisan think tank that provides information to Congress. It used DoD and CENTCOM statements, as well as news reports, to build a picture of the actual losses of military fixed- and rotary-wing, manned and unmanned aircraft.

It covered key incidents such as the F-15E Strike Eagle, which led to a high-stakes search and rescue mission in early April, as well as three more F-15E Strike Eagles that were shot down in a friendly fire incident over Kuwait.

But the cost goes further, and includes a damaged F-35A Lightning II, a destroyed A-10 Thunderbolt II and the loss or damage of seven KC-135 Stratotankers and an E-3 Sentry AWACS, of which the U.S. has little more than a dozen.

There have also been 24 MQ-9 Reaper drones and one $240 million MQ-4C Triton drone lost.

The U.S. also destroyed a pair of its own MC-130J Commando II special operations aircraft while rescuing the pilots.

The search also saw an HH-60W Jolly Green II helicopter damaged by ground fire as it flew over Iran.

In April, Pentagon officials told Congress that $25 billion had already been spent on the fighting. ... On May 12, Acting Pentagon Comptroller Jules Hurst said that the number had now gone up to $29 billion, saying, "A lot of that increase comes from having a refined estimate on repair or replacement costs for equipment."

U.S. officials familiar with internal assessments told CBS News that the offensive's true price tag to date is closer to $50 billion.

As well as losses to aircraft, 13 service members have been killed in the fighting, six of whom were on board one of the Stratotankers which went down over friendly territory.

More than 350 Americans are also thought to have been injured, amid a furor about not enough being done to protect troops in combat zones.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on May 22, 2026, 03:18:05 PM
At least we're winning and oil is flowing again.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 22, 2026, 03:47:01 PM
Quote from: Jockey on May 22, 2026, 03:18:05 PMAt least we're winning and oil is flowing again.

Looks we're celebrating Memorial Day with war.  Happy Memorial Day Weekend, even to the losers and haters of which there are many!
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on May 22, 2026, 07:24:23 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on May 22, 2026, 03:47:01 PMLooks we're celebrating Memorial Day with war.  Happy Memorial Day Weekend, even to the losers and haters of which there are many!

That's just dum.

Sorry. I didn't realize dumb has a 'b' in it.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: forgetful on May 22, 2026, 11:33:14 PM
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/terrifying-fact-iran-war-america-longer-safe-new-threat

Foxnews doing its best to try to justify invading Cuba. Happy Memorial Day Weekend!
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 23, 2026, 07:29:16 AM
Quote from: forgetful on May 22, 2026, 11:33:14 PMhttps://www.foxnews.com/opinion/terrifying-fact-iran-war-america-longer-safe-new-threat

Foxnews doing its best to try to justify invading Cuba. Happy Memorial Day Weekend!

The propaganda arm of MAGA doing some heavy lifting.  Another foreign excursion.  More excessive spending.  More world policing.  More dead Americans.

Promises made, promises kept.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 23, 2026, 07:52:48 AM
Don't worry about fertilizer costs.

https://finance.yahoo.com/sectors/energy/articles/human-urine-becomes-option-farmers-000003524.html
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on May 23, 2026, 10:17:50 AM
Quote from: forgetful on May 22, 2026, 11:33:14 PMhttps://www.foxnews.com/opinion/terrifying-fact-iran-war-america-longer-safe-new-threat

Foxnews doing its best to try to justify invading Cuba. Happy Memorial Day Weekend!

Only the dumbest of dumbunnatural carnal knowledges--i.e., Fox viewers--would believe that Cuba is a threat.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: pbiflyer on May 23, 2026, 10:36:18 AM
Quote from: Jockey on May 22, 2026, 03:18:05 PMAt least we're winning and oil is flowing again.
Hey at least he had an excuse not to attend his son's wedding!
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on May 23, 2026, 02:43:37 PM
Quote from: pbiflyer on May 23, 2026, 10:36:18 AMHey at least he had an excuse not to attend his son's wedding!

To be fair, would you want to have to attend Don Jr's wedding?
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Shaka Shart on May 23, 2026, 03:53:00 PM
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on May 23, 2026, 02:43:37 PMTo be fair, would you want to have to attend Don Jr's wedding?

The blow is probably top quality
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 23, 2026, 05:32:53 PM
https://youtu.be/kCXTq-fWWio?si=_gC3YpB7URVWR4Tj
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 24, 2026, 06:54:28 AM
What a colossal failure by our leadership

https://apnews.com/article/iran-us-war-ceasefire-negotiations-hormuz-e603a7759d6cbd70ce5ed01f439a29dc

If you know a cultist defending this gambit as successful, know they're either an idiot or beyond hope of saving.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: The Sultan on May 24, 2026, 10:11:23 AM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on May 24, 2026, 06:54:28 AMWhat a colossal failure by our leadership

https://apnews.com/article/iran-us-war-ceasefire-negotiations-hormuz-e603a7759d6cbd70ce5ed01f439a29dc

If you know a cultist defending this gambit as successful, know they're either an idiot or beyond hope of saving.


At least he missed his son's wedding for this.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on May 24, 2026, 10:31:38 AM
13 U.S. soldiers dead and hundreds more wounded for nothing.

The global economy sent reeling for nothing.

Gas prices skyrocket and the rate of inflation surges for nothing.

No regime change. No nuclear-related assurances. Iran will get to make bigly oil $$$ again. And the Strait will open ... just as it was before the idiocy started.

Wow.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: tower912 on May 24, 2026, 11:17:02 AM
Quote from: The Sultan on May 24, 2026, 10:11:23 AMAt least he missed his son's wedding for this.

He'll make the next one.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 24, 2026, 11:20:29 AM
Quote from: tower912 on May 24, 2026, 11:17:02 AMHe'll make the next one.

Christians get married multiple times, god bless you very much!
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: forgetful on May 24, 2026, 12:54:41 PM
Quote from: MU82 on May 24, 2026, 10:31:38 AM13 U.S. soldiers dead and hundreds more wounded for nothing.

The global economy sent reeling for nothing.

Gas prices skyrocket and the rate of inflation surges for nothing.

No regime change. No nuclear-related assurances. Iran will get to make bigly oil $$$ again. And the Strait will open ... just as it was before the idiocy started.

Wow.

Yeah, we are worse off now than before. Iran may likely agree to dilute their uranium down (they offered that many times before), but will keep it. They also will likely work towards purifying plutonium from their spent nuclear fuel, or other heavy water reactors that can use the diluted fuel, providing them a new possibly more dangerous route to a weapon.

We lose.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Shaka Shart on May 24, 2026, 01:35:11 PM
Quote from: forgetful on May 24, 2026, 12:54:41 PMYeah, we are worse off now than before. Iran may likely agree to dilute their uranium down (they offered that many times before), but will keep it. They also will likely work towards purifying plutonium from their spent nuclear fuel, or other heavy water reactors that can use the diluted fuel, providing them a new possibly more dangerous route to a weapon.

We lose.

Wow TDS much???
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 24, 2026, 02:44:44 PM
You guys might not believe this, but the deal the president said was imminent yesterday now may not be imminent according to the president.

The art of the deal is remarkable to watch play out.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on May 24, 2026, 03:39:33 PM
It's like when an MLB team bids against itself to sign a mediocre free agent.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on May 25, 2026, 09:12:34 AM
Happy Memorial Day. Please take some time to think about then brave soldiers who died in this "skirmish"

https://x.com/i/status/2058873629148897378
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: The Sultan on May 25, 2026, 09:52:13 AM
https://bsky.app/profile/nothoodlum.bsky.social/post/3mmnb2b4noc2e

Hoodlum 🇺🇸
‪@nothoodlum.bsky.social‬

60 Minutes confirms Iran is bypassing the US blockade and exporting 100,000 more barrels of oil per day than before the war. Most of it is reportedly going to China.


Incredible strategic move....
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on May 25, 2026, 09:57:47 AM
Well, it's time to put up a new blockade that will stop 500%, 600%, 700%, 1200%, 1400%, even 1500% of the traffic.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: tower912 on May 25, 2026, 02:50:53 PM
Than you to all that served.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 25, 2026, 04:26:35 PM
Quote from: tower912 on May 25, 2026, 02:50:53 PMThan you to all that served.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DYw_B5EuBRO/?igsh=MTB0bzAwbGM3Z2p2bg==
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on May 25, 2026, 07:57:53 PM
Peace deal arriving bigly!

Hours after Iranian negotiators arrived in Qatar for talks on ending the war, U.S. forces struck missile launch sites in Iran and boats trying to emplace mines, American officials said Monday night.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2026/05/25/world/iran-war-trump?

U.S. Central Command characterized the strikes in southern Iran as defensive and said they had been intended "to protect our troops from threats posed by Iranian forces."

"Central Command continues to defend our forces while using restraint during the ongoing cease-fire," Capt. Tim Hawkins, a Central Command spokesman, said in a statement.

The strikes came on a day when Israel signaled that it planned to intensify its fight against the Iranian-backed militant group Hezbollah in Lebanon. With the two conflicts closely intertwined, escalation in the
fighting in Lebanon might make it still harder for negotiators to reach a peace deal.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: forgetful on May 26, 2026, 07:52:52 AM
Quote from: MU82 on May 25, 2026, 07:57:53 PMPeace deal arriving bigly!

Hours after Iranian negotiators arrived in Qatar for talks on ending the war, U.S. forces struck missile launch sites in Iran and boats trying to emplace mines, American officials said Monday night.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2026/05/25/world/iran-war-trump?

U.S. Central Command characterized the strikes in southern Iran as defensive and said they had been intended "to protect our troops from threats posed by Iranian forces."

"Central Command continues to defend our forces while using restraint during the ongoing cease-fire," Capt. Tim Hawkins, a Central Command spokesman, said in a statement.

The strikes came on a day when Israel signaled that it planned to intensify its fight against the Iranian-backed militant group Hezbollah in Lebanon. With the two conflicts closely intertwined, escalation in the
fighting in Lebanon might make it still harder for negotiators to reach a peace deal.

Nothing builds trust more than the aggressor, who unilaterally started the war, violating the cease fire, when again the other party was actively involved in negotiations.

And, to add to the trust-building exercise the ally who was the aggressor in starting the war, continuing to violate the cease fire in Lebanon while saying they are going to step on the pedal with their attacks.

But, they are the untrustworthy ones.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Billy Hoyle on May 26, 2026, 10:43:43 AM
I drove by a gas station this morning and gas was $3.99 per gallon. They haven't been below $4.00 since April. Obviously, these low prices are due to the great leadership of our Dear Leader (and our loyalist Governor suspending the over 50 cents gas excise taxes). Thank you Dear Leader Trump.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: pbiflyer on May 26, 2026, 01:03:50 PM
On a plane, so might be missing it. Deal get done? Seems like trump always gets stuff done on Tuesdays.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on May 26, 2026, 05:24:12 PM
Quote from: pbiflyer on May 26, 2026, 01:03:50 PMOn a plane, so might be missing it. Deal get done? Seems like trump always gets stuff done on Tuesdays.

No. Bombing instead.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on May 28, 2026, 09:00:34 AM
Insisting that no country will control the Strait of Hormuz, Capt. Bone Spur directly threatened ... Oman?

"It's international waters and Oman will behave just like everybody else or we'll have to blow them up."

Good ceasefire he's got going, though. Heavy on the "fire," light on the "cease."
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on May 28, 2026, 09:08:54 AM
Art of the Deal excellence

The Trump Who Cried Iran Deal
People have tuned out Trump's promises of a deal. That is starting a cascade of consequences.
https://prospect.org/2026/05/28/aftermath-trump-who-cried-iran-deal/

"At some point, everyone involved with the Iran war debacle, from political figures to Wall Street investors to the news media, will resolve to stop lunging at every Trumpian pronouncement of a "deal" to end the war. Even the best possible reading of the latest announcement cannot credibly be described as a deal at all, but rather, agreements to begin talks to reach a deal.

Iran has expanded control of the Strait of Hormuz during this extended cease-fire, instituting checkpoints and imposing fees. They have even increased the geography by moving the boundaries of the strait itself, extending their zone of control by hundreds of miles."

My favorite snide remark (from a different source):
"Trump said over the weekend that a deal is "largely negotiated," which was reported on as if it might have some correlation to reality for some reason."
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on May 28, 2026, 09:38:57 AM
Wall Street is by far the worst when it comes to believing every word out of t-rump's mouth. Nothing more than a herd of idiot savant traitors.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on May 28, 2026, 09:47:45 AM
China and Russia are loving this ...

The Iran war has exacerbated a shortage of missile-defense weaponry that is likely to plague the U.S. and its partners, from Ukraine to Taiwan, for years to come, Axios' Dave Lawler and Colin Demarest write.

Why it matters: The conflict is draining weapons stockpiles far faster than American factories can replace them, leaving the Pentagon and its allies scrambling to ramp up production and find cheaper alternatives.

The report from the Center for Strategic and International Studies finds the U.S. used so many interceptors from missile defense systems like Patriot and THAAD in the Middle East that stockpiles won't be replenished until 2029.

And that's if the war doesn't resume.

The math is stark: The U.S. took delivery of just 172 Patriot interceptors in fiscal year 2026 and has used more than 1,000 in the Iran war, according to CSIS.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on May 29, 2026, 05:51:46 AM
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on May 28, 2026, 09:08:54 AMArt of the Deal excellence

The Trump Who Cried Iran Deal
People have tuned out Trump's promises of a deal. That is starting a cascade of consequences.
https://prospect.org/2026/05/28/aftermath-trump-who-cried-iran-deal/

"At some point, everyone involved with the Iran war debacle, from political figures to Wall Street investors to the news media, will resolve to stop lunging at every Trumpian pronouncement of a "deal" to end the war. Even the best possible reading of the latest announcement cannot credibly be described as a deal at all, but rather, agreements to begin talks to reach a deal.

Iran has expanded control of the Strait of Hormuz during this extended cease-fire, instituting checkpoints and imposing fees. They have even increased the geography by moving the boundaries of the strait itself, extending their zone of control by hundreds of miles."

My favorite snide remark (from a different source):
"Trump said over the weekend that a deal is "largely negotiated," which was reported on as if it might have some correlation to reality for some reason."

The Atlantic has a new article about TACO economics and Wall Street reaction.  Specifically investors assume TACO will happen and are investing according.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on May 29, 2026, 05:54:04 AM
Quote from: MU82 on May 28, 2026, 09:47:45 AMChina and Russia are loving this ...

The Iran war has exacerbated a shortage of missile-defense weaponry that is likely to plague the U.S. and its partners, from Ukraine to Taiwan, for years to come, Axios' Dave Lawler and Colin Demarest write.

Why it matters: The conflict is draining weapons stockpiles far faster than American factories can replace them, leaving the Pentagon and its allies scrambling to ramp up production and find cheaper alternatives.

The report from the Center for Strategic and International Studies finds the U.S. used so many interceptors from missile defense systems like Patriot and THAAD in the Middle East that stockpiles won't be replenished until 2029.

And that's if the war doesn't resume.

The math is stark: The U.S. took delivery of just 172 Patriot interceptors in fiscal year 2026 and has used more than 1,000 in the Iran war, according to CSIS.


I was in a defense contractor plant in Canada last week and they have some massive contract from the US Government to make 155mm and 120mm artillery shells.  They are only at 75% capacity and will be making them for years.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 29, 2026, 05:58:30 AM
https://bsky.app/profile/shipwreck75.bsky.social/post/3mmxin7qykc2e

Those pennies will be turning into dollars which is why we need a $250 bill, to pay for a gallon of gas.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 29, 2026, 07:13:46 AM
Part of a possible deal includes a $300 billion investment fund for Iran.  Witkoff and Kushner pitching it as a "real estate investment deal" according to the New York Times.

Between the cost to the taxpayers and loss of international prestige, it's refreshing to see some Americans might make bank off this fiasco.

And the mullahs remain in power!
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on May 29, 2026, 09:47:33 AM
From The AP:

Prices for tomatoes are up 40%, more than any other food product over the past year. Experts say the spike is the result of crop yields, the Iran war and Trump's tariffs. :

The war spiked gas prices and increased shipping costs. Meanwhile, the U.S. withdrew from a deal allowing duty-free imports of tomatoes from Mexico, which grows most of America's supply. Tomatoes were slapped with a 17% tariff.

As the cost trickles down, outraged consumers are voicing their displeasure online, but the impact has been most pronounced for businesses that rely on tomatoes as a key ingredient in their kitchens.

Wayne Humphrey, chief operating officer of Snarf's Sandwiches, which operates dozens of stores in Colorado, Missouri and Texas, says tomatoes will cost him an additional $1.7 million annually.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 29, 2026, 04:09:37 PM
Hope these troops aren't needed in Iran

https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/pentagon-wants-troops-trump-ufc-185225981.html
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on May 29, 2026, 04:46:00 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on May 29, 2026, 07:13:46 AMPart of a possible deal includes a $300 billion investment fund for Iran.  Witkoff and Kushner pitching it as a "real estate investment deal" according to the New York Times.

Between the cost to the taxpayers and loss of international prestige, it's refreshing to see some Americans might make bank off this fiasco.

And the mullahs remain in power!

In other words, a standard trump grift.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: #UnleashThePortal on May 29, 2026, 08:17:10 PM
Quote from: MU82 on May 28, 2026, 09:47:45 AMChina and Russia are loving this ...

The Iran war has exacerbated a shortage of missile-defense weaponry that is likely to plague the U.S. and its partners, from Ukraine to Taiwan, for years to come, Axios' Dave Lawler and Colin Demarest write.

Why it matters: The conflict is draining weapons stockpiles far faster than American factories can replace them, leaving the Pentagon and its allies scrambling to ramp up production and find cheaper alternatives.

The report from the Center for Strategic and International Studies finds the U.S. used so many interceptors from missile defense systems like Patriot and THAAD in the Middle East that stockpiles won't be replenished until 2029.

And that's if the war doesn't resume.

The math is stark: The U.S. took delivery of just 172 Patriot interceptors in fiscal year 2026 and has used more than 1,000 in the Iran war, according to CSIS.


If a war truly as small as the Iran war is able to effectively majorly disrupt American defendes for YEARS to come, then the knowledge that their systems suck that much will be one of the very few good things to come out of this war.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TallTitan34 on May 31, 2026, 10:35:31 AM
Trump the past few months: We've completely destroyed Iran's military.

Trump today:

https://x.com/atrupar/status/2060893800633925690?s=46
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: tower912 on May 31, 2026, 11:23:06 AM
Admitting to yet another war crime.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: pbiflyer on May 31, 2026, 05:02:47 PM
This guy thinks we shouldn't have invaded Iran.

https://x.com/atrupar/status/2060893819151823150?s=46&t=wj-kQtLCLPNb9xDTKbHRvQ
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 31, 2026, 05:03:51 PM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on May 31, 2026, 10:35:31 AMTrump the past few months: We've completely destroyed Iran's military.

Trump today:

https://x.com/atrupar/status/2060893800633925690?s=46

The mouth breathers in his base will believe anything he says but Americans with common sense know the commander-in-chief lies to them on a daily basis but he's already broken all of his campaign promises, so not a surprise.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Skatastrophy on May 31, 2026, 05:16:02 PM
The President of Iran has offered his resignation and said the revolutionary guard has seized control. 

https://www.iranintl.com/en/202605312204

Boots on the ground tomorrow?

Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 31, 2026, 05:21:20 PM
Quote from: Skatastrophy on May 31, 2026, 05:16:02 PMThe President of Iran has offered his resignation and said the revolutionary guard has seized control.

https://www.iranintl.com/en/202605312204

Boots on the ground tomorrow?



Wow.  In America, you grovel to the leader and hope he supports you in a primary
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Skatastrophy on June 01, 2026, 09:13:53 AM
Talks suspended, strait is closed. Here we go
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on June 01, 2026, 10:02:40 AM
Quote from: Skatastrophy on June 01, 2026, 09:13:53 AMTalks suspended, strait is closed. Here we go

Promises made, promises kept!
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MUeng on June 01, 2026, 10:58:26 AM
Quote from: Skatastrophy on June 01, 2026, 09:13:53 AMTalks suspended, strait is closed. Here we go
setting up the next TACO trade. I'm sure we'll see "progress made" in the headlines real soon
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Jockey on June 01, 2026, 11:15:07 AM
No Epstein talk. Trump won.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on June 01, 2026, 01:52:25 PM
Is this bad?

Exxon sounds alarm on 'unheard of' oil problem
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/exxon-sounds-alarm-on-unheard-of-oil-problem/ar-AA24wcN4?

"Pump prices have climbed, but the futures market has acted as if the supply shock is mostly in the rearview mirror. For months, government stockpiles and emergency reserve releases have quietly papered over just how tight the physical market has become.

"We're approaching unheard of inventory levels," [Exxon CEO] Chapman said, according to CNBC. He argued that storage tanks have been hiding a hole in supply that cannot stay hidden much longer.

Roughly 11 million to 12 million barrels a day have been pulled out of a market that runs near 100 million barrels a day.

"Normally, you'd see prices go through the roof," Chapman said, according to the Houston Chronicle. Once stockpiles bottom out, he said, physical Brent crude could spike to between $150 and $160 a barrel before high prices choke off enough demand to pull the market back into balance, CNBC reported."
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on June 01, 2026, 02:57:54 PM
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on June 01, 2026, 01:52:25 PMIs this bad?

Exxon sounds alarm on 'unheard of' oil problem
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/exxon-sounds-alarm-on-unheard-of-oil-problem/ar-AA24wcN4?

"Pump prices have climbed, but the futures market has acted as if the supply shock is mostly in the rearview mirror. For months, government stockpiles and emergency reserve releases have quietly papered over just how tight the physical market has become.

"We're approaching unheard of inventory levels," [Exxon CEO] Chapman said, according to CNBC. He argued that storage tanks have been hiding a hole in supply that cannot stay hidden much longer.

Roughly 11 million to 12 million barrels a day have been pulled out of a market that runs near 100 million barrels a day.

"Normally, you'd see prices go through the roof," Chapman said, according to the Houston Chronicle. Once stockpiles bottom out, he said, physical Brent crude could spike to between $150 and $160 a barrel before high prices choke off enough demand to pull the market back into balance, CNBC reported."

It's just a few pennies!  Happy 250th!
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on June 01, 2026, 03:30:24 PM
https://www.yahoo.com/news/world/articles/iran-attacks-damage-20-us-053323843.html

Your government continues to lie about the cost of this excursion.  Promises made, promises kept!
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on June 01, 2026, 05:26:45 PM
Art O' the Deal!

"President Donald Trump on Monday shrugged off the possible collapse of peace negotiations with Iran, telling CNBC, "I don't care if they're over, honestly."

"I really don't care. I couldn't care less," Trump told CNBC's Eamon Javers in a phone interview midday Monday.

"If they're over, they're over. If they're not, you know, I think they took too much time. Frankly, I thought they started to get very boring," Trump told CNBC."

https://www.cnbc.com/2026/06/01/trump-iran-war-negotiations-oil-israel-interview.html
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on June 01, 2026, 05:40:49 PM
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on June 01, 2026, 05:26:45 PMArt O' the Deal!

"President Donald Trump on Monday shrugged off the possible collapse of peace negotiations with Iran, telling CNBC, "I don't care if they're over, honestly."

"I really don't care. I couldn't care less," Trump told CNBC's Eamon Javers in a phone interview midday Monday.

"If they're over, they're over. If they're not, you know, I think they took too much time. Frankly, I thought they started to get very boring," Trump told CNBC."

https://www.cnbc.com/2026/06/01/trump-iran-war-negotiations-oil-israel-interview.html

That should be reassuring to the friends and families of the dead soldiers.  At least they can count on standing ovations at stadiums.

Billions of dollars spent, billions of dollars being spent by American taxpayers because of costs associated with the war.

Frankly, I'm bored.  American leadership at its absolute peak.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on June 01, 2026, 07:54:42 PM
Looks like there might be fighting between the war criminals

https://bsky.app/profile/sahilkapur.bsky.social/post/3mnb6o334rk2a

Man, more promises made, promises kept!  Yelling at Netanyahu will make a lot of evangelicals worried about the second coming of Christ being delayed!
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Shaka Shart on June 01, 2026, 08:28:48 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on June 01, 2026, 07:54:42 PMLooks like there might be fighting between the war criminals

https://bsky.app/profile/sahilkapur.bsky.social/post/3mnb6o334rk2a

Man, more promises made, promises kept!  Yelling at Netanyahu will make a lot of evangelicals worried about the second coming of Christ being delayed!

Axios likes reporting a deal is near more than Mequon residents like reporting a minority taking a wrong turn.

Grain of salt
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on June 01, 2026, 08:29:45 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on June 01, 2026, 05:40:49 PMThat should be reassuring to the friends and families of the dead soldiers.  At least they can count on standing ovations at stadiums.

Billions of dollars spent, billions of dollars being spent by American taxpayers because of costs associated with the war.

Frankly, I'm bored.  American leadership at its absolute peak.

LOL

From the NY Times:
"Back in March, Mr. Trump confidently predicted the conflict would be over in a few weeks, saying it was not possible to suffer from boredom while facing off against a longtime American adversary: "Somebody said today, they said, 'oh, well, the president wants to do it really quickly. After that, he'll get bored.' "

"There's nothing boring about this," he added."
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on June 03, 2026, 10:03:09 AM
From the NYT:

Plenty of people in Washington suspected that Iran would assert control over the Strait of Hormuz should the United States attack. War games conducted in the Pentagon over the years came to that conclusion. "Every single time, the first thing we focused on was the strait — without exception," a national security official in the Obama White House told the Times. "We assumed that if you go to war with Iran, this was their counterpoint."

Trump did not make that assumption, it seems. The White House has not disclosed its initial plans for the war, but the Times discovered some possibilities:

++Trump may have thought that overwhelming American firepower would topple Iran's government so quickly that it wouldn't have the time nor the ability to take the strait.

++Some in the administration doubted that Iran would close a waterway on which its own oil exports depended. Others believed, incorrectly, that allies would help the United States regain control of the strait if Iran took it.

++And several former U.S. officials said Pentagon planners, long focused on the threat of Iranian sea mines, may have overlooked the implications of Tehran's relatively new arsenal of cheap attack drones, which have menaced shipping in the strait.

And so ... within days of the war's start, Iran's military took control of the strait. Energy prices soared, and Trump found himself in a jam. Three months later, Iran's control of the strait has become its most powerful weapon, a source of huge leverage in negotiations with Trump over the country's nuclear program.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: The Sultan on June 03, 2026, 10:17:07 AM
It is very obvious that he listened a great deal to Netenyahu and his own yes men and ignored the realities on the ground. There was not a chance that this was going to cause "regime change."

The last point has been an eternal problem of the American military. Yeah its very large, but it relies a lot of very expensive technology when oftentimes it's the cheap stuff that causes the most chaos. That's what we saw with IEDs back in Iraq and Afghanistan, and what we are seeing with the drones now.

Americans can't figure out that enemies don't need to overpower our military. They just need to do enough damage, and cause enough chaos to make us unwilling to fight any longer. We treat every conflict like it will have some sort of WWII like outcome, without learning from Vietnam, Iraq and now Iran.

And now we are stuck. Either we capitulate, ramp up the fighting, or continue with the status quo. The status quo certainly isn't harming Iran's leaders right now.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on June 03, 2026, 11:09:59 AM
And the dunce has painted himself into such a corner, because he is a dunce, that he can't even declare victory and go home.

Once his "plan" for Venezuela 2.0 crumbled in the first weekend, they tried to come up with a rationale for the war that the public would accept, and the only one that had a remote chance was "Nuclear" (despite both having caused "Nuclear" in the first place by tearing up Obama's agreement and having claimed "Nuclear" was obliterated previously). So now he can't get out of it without some progress on "Nuclear". If they had just made it about destroying Iran's military, he could have claimed Mission Accomplished, despite the bizarre statement he made to Lara that they "had left the military alone".

The best option, pathetically, is to give Iran a better deal than the previous agreement, then declare it the greatest ever while tucking tail. Fox viewers and his 25% base are dumb enough to buy it.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TallTitan34 on June 03, 2026, 11:15:14 AM
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on June 03, 2026, 11:09:59 AMAnd the dunce has painted himself into such a corner, because he is a dunce, that he can't even declare victory and go home.

Once his "plan" for Venezuela 2.0 crumbled in the first weekend, they tried to come up with a rationale for the war that the public would accept, and the only one that had a remote chance was "Nuclear" (despite both having caused "Nuclear" in the first place by tearing up Obama's agreement and having claimed "Nuclear" was obliterated previously). So now he can't get out of it without some progress on "Nuclear". If they had just made it about destroying Iran's military, he could have claimed Mission Accomplished, despite the bizarre statement he made to Lara that they "had left the military alone".

The best option, pathetically, is to give Iran a better deal than the previous agreement, then declare it the greatest ever while tucking tail. Fox viewers and his 25% base are dumb enough to buy it.

Art of the deal.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on June 03, 2026, 11:22:21 AM
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on June 03, 2026, 11:09:59 AMThe best option, pathetically, is to give Iran a better deal than the previous agreement, then declare it the greatest ever while tucking tail. Fox viewers and his 25% base are dumb enough to buy it.

BTW, "most people don't know that, you know, dumb ends with a "B."'
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Hards Alumni on June 03, 2026, 03:55:51 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on June 01, 2026, 07:54:42 PMLooks like there might be fighting between the war criminals

https://bsky.app/profile/sahilkapur.bsky.social/post/3mnb6o334rk2a

Man, more promises made, promises kept!  Yelling at Netanyahu will make a lot of evangelicals worried about the second coming of Christ being delayed!

Barak Ravid is not to be trusted when reporting about US/Israel.  He's a straight up propagandist.  Been that way since before Trump 2.0.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: MU82 on June 03, 2026, 07:32:01 PM
The House on Wednesday voted to direct President Trump to withdraw U.S. forces from the conflict with Iran or win approval from Congress to continue the war, after four Republicans sided with Democrats in a striking sign of growing opposition to a military campaign now in its fourth month.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2026/06/03/us/trump-administration-news#section-599172293

Adoption of the resolution was a remarkable rebuke to Mr. Trump and his handling of the conflict, after he has repeatedly dismissed any effort by Congress to curb his power and as the G.O.P. has largely ceded its prerogatives to do so, deferring to him time and again. Republicans had abruptly postponed the vote two weeks ago, recognizing that they did not have sufficient votes to defeat the measure and wanting to spare themselves and the president the affront.

But they made no headway over the ensuing days in winning converts, as the conflict has dragged on and Mr. Trump has made little progress toward ending it. G.O.P. leaders were unable to delay the vote any longer because Democrats had invoked the War Powers Resolution, which requires consideration of such measures within a limited period of time.

The move was also the latest reflection of divisions between Republicans in Congress and the president on a range of issues as their interests diverge in the run-up to the midterm congressional elections. It came after Senate Republicans have in recent days forced Mr. Trump to abandon his request for $1 billion in security funding for his ballroom project and a plan that the Justice Department announced to create a federal fund to pay claimants who accuse the government of having victimized them.

The vote was 215 to 208 to adopt the war powers resolution, sending it to the Senate. Even if it were to pass both chambers, the ability of lawmakers to force a president to withdraw troops remains a contested legal question, and Mr. Trump and his senior aides have dismissed any effort by Congress to limit his war powers as unconstitutional.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: forgetful on June 03, 2026, 08:43:14 PM
I wouldn't be shocked to see a false flag attack on US interests in the Middle East, which would then be used to get authorization to reinitiate a war, if need be.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: The Sultan on June 03, 2026, 08:55:16 PM
I don't think so. They want this to be over. They would roll back the clock and never go down this road if they could.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Skatastrophy on June 04, 2026, 07:54:44 AM
The USA's lack of stomach to finish something they started will embolden China in the far east.
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Uncle Rico on June 04, 2026, 04:49:54 PM
Quote from: The Sultan on June 03, 2026, 08:55:16 PMI don't think so. They want this to be over. They would roll back the clock and never go down this road if they could.

Plus, he's bored by it.  Time for more golden calfs
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on June 04, 2026, 08:08:13 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on June 04, 2026, 04:49:54 PMPlus, he's bored by it.  Time for more golden calfs

On cue

President announces plan to build 'Trump Promenade' at Lincoln Memorial
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2026/06/04/trump-promenade-lincoln-memorial/90409031007/
Title: Re: War with Iran
Post by: Shaka Shart on June 04, 2026, 08:11:22 PM
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on June 04, 2026, 08:08:13 PMOn cue

President announces plan to build 'Trump Promenade' at Lincoln Memorial
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2026/06/04/trump-promenade-lincoln-memorial/90409031007/

Slapping name on already planned projects. He's just like me
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