Attack, score, rinse, repeat.
LFG!!
Value the rock, rebound the rock, and play some freaking defense. It's time for a road win!
This PC St. John's game is going way long. On TNT hopefully they have another channel.
Just a little in game brawl to slow things down
I see it will be starting in 5 mins on Tru TV. The fact that there has been no update on TNT is inexcusable and a complete disgrace.
I think one of TruTv or TNT will switch to the MU game.
MU twitter says TruTV is suppose to have it to start then move to TNT after this game.
What's the point of two channels if you show the same game on both?
Maybe our last realistic chance at a road win this year.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on Today at 02:09:26 PMWhat's the point of two channels if you show the same game on both?
They're incompetent.
TruTV right now.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on Today at 02:08:00 PMMU twitter says TruTV is suppose to have it to start then move to TNT after this game.
It'll never really move, you can watch the whole thing on Tru
Should have their license revoked
Quote from: MuggsyB on Today at 02:06:34 PMI see it will be starting in 5 mins on Tru TV. The fact that there has been no update on TNT is inexcusable and a complete disgrace.
Is anyone else having issues with Tru feed?
Quote from: TallTitan34 on Today at 02:08:00 PMMU twitter says TruTV is suppose to have it to start then move to TNT after this game.
It's been both all year. Turner Sports does it for MLB & NHL as well.
TNT games are always on TruTV. TNT will join after PC/St.John's is over. MU/Xavier start will be TruTV
Ben hurt.
Do we not have anyone besides Cardin
Quote from: TallTitan34 on Today at 02:09:26 PMWhat's the point of two channels if you show the same game on both?
Better exposure
Get Cardin out please!
Did he just say "Chance" Ross?
Ok yes on Tru now. Just started. Ty
Teams are fresher in the beginning and shoot 3s better. Get up on them. It happened against Villanova Indiana and others ugh
A 3 in Carson's face again
3 Marquette players and we do not grab the rebound
Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on Today at 02:18:26 PMTeams are fresher in the beginning and shoot 3s better. Get up on them. It happened against Villanova Indiana and others ugh
That what X does. Crappy start.
Wide open triples. WTF are we doing???
Again! Teams are fresher in the beginning and shoot 3s better. Get up on them. It happened against Villanova Indiana and others ugh!!
Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on Today at 02:19:58 PM3 Marquette players and we do not grab the rebound
Terrible.
Lot of basketball left. Not to worry
Quote from: MuggsyB on Today at 02:20:39 PMWide open triples. WTF are we doing???
Exactly Marquette's mental play is mind bobbling. And their hustle and.........
Appears we might want to consider guarding the three point line
Clueless start
No joke we may be 100 spots worse in Kenpom/NET when Caedin is on the floor.
Oh no, Shaka is going into the transfer portal. ;D ;D ;D
How many 3s in our face are we going to take geez
Has anyone ever seen Broeker whe he wasn't chewing gum? It doesn't make him look like the brightest bulb on the tree.
Quote from: WhiteTrash on Today at 02:24:48 PMOh no, Shaka is going into the transfer portal. ;D ;D ;D
I mean if he didn't everyone would be fired.
Chase hit a shot.
Nothing like a crap team lighting it up from 3 against Marquette.
Quote from: CountryRoads on Today at 02:23:44 PMNo joke we may be 100 spots worse in Kenpom/NET when Caedin is on the floor.
Caedin was ranked the 98 out of 99 players statistically in the Big East.
Horrible turn by DO? Why? Move the fking ball.
Dribbling among four defenders often leads to a suboptimal result.
WTF?? 3 secs?
More than clueless
3 seconds? Gmab.
Quote from: jfp61 on Today at 02:25:44 PMI mean if he didn't everyone would be fired.
I get it. I'm not surprised at all. Shaka is a winner and will exhaust all resources.
Just was poking at some of the people who doubted him.
Our defense is phucking pathetic
Omg
Embarrassing 7+ mins.
Doing zilch on both ends of the floor.
Extremely upsetting against a shiiitte team.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on Today at 02:29:46 PMOur defense is phucking pathetic
And can't hit a shot. Kinda a bad combo. Wow.
Wow, I rarely question the effort first, but this is not acceptable. X is unconscious, but not challenging a layup should get someone glued to the bench. Lot of game left, cmon boys!
Again Again Teams are fresher in the beginning and shoot 3s better. Get up on them. It happened against Villanova Indiana and others ugh
Feeble Embarrassing Disgrace
Absolutely stone cold defense. Piss poor coaching and preparation. And of course we also have Goooollllldbrick.
Quote from: MuggsyB on Today at 02:30:44 PMEmbarrassing 7+ mins.
Doing zilch on both ends of the floor.
Extremely upsetting against a shiiitte team.
Umm, look at the standings, we're kind of a "shiiitte team"
I hate to say it but this MU team looks like they don't give a damn.
Quote from: 21Jumpstreet on Today at 02:31:49 PMWow, I rarely question the effort first, but this is not acceptable. X is unconscious, but not challenging a layup should get someone glued to the bench. Lot of game left, cmon boys!
Correct. Where's the resistance????
Thank God we have Scoop to vent!
Ugly three from Chase, hands of glass from Caedin.
I was told our team no longer sucks.
I was lied to.
MP for 3. Let it rain young man.
Quote from: MuggsyB on Today at 02:34:41 PMMP for 3. Let it rain young man.
give him all of the owens minutes please
Nice block and 3 by Phillips.
Why is Caedin in Why is Tre In
But we are a top 50 team the last 5 games :)
Quote from: MuggsyB on Today at 02:30:44 PMEmbarrassing 7+ mins.
Doing zilch on both ends of the floor.
Extremely upsetting against a shiiitte team.
No idea what Tre was thinking there. Move the ball.
The NORMILTON!
Quote from: WhiteTrash on Today at 02:29:34 PMI get it. I'm not surprised at all. Shaka is a winner and will exhaust all resources.
Just was poking at some of the people who doubted him.
Pretty easy for Shaka to figure this out after getting hit repeatedly on the side of the head with a 2 by 4. I'll believe he uses the portal when some studs come in.
Sit Ross after that possession.
Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on Today at 02:36:27 PMWhy is Caedin in Why is Tre In
mystery of all mysteries
Weak foul call on Nigel.
Was Shocked they said early in the game something like Shaka admits mistakes of focusing on relationships over building the best roster.
Hey it should of not happened in the 1st place but it is a start
Phantom foul
Excellent move from RP there.
Parham has gotten really good.
Thank God again for Scoop to vent
Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on Today at 02:39:30 PMWas Shocked they said early in the game something like Shaka admits mistakes of focusing on relationships over building the best roster. Hey it should of not happened in the 1st place but it is a start
Not what was said
We are pathetic
Quote from: willie warrior on Today at 02:37:41 PMPretty easy for Shaka to figure this out after getting hit repeatedly on the side of the head with a 2 by 4. I'll believe he uses the portal when some studs come in.
Honestly, I don't follow. You don't think he'll get transfers?
Crap! Too early for me to start drinking
Oh wait. It's not
Quote from: WhiteTrash on Today at 02:40:36 PMHonestly, I don't follow. You don't think he'll get transfers?
Shaka will get transfers in the future. Shaka will do what it takes to build a better roster
Wright just torched Gooollllddbrick. Let's hear about his stellar defense from all the Benny slurpers. He will make it to the NBA?
OLE...OLE...OLE...OLE..OLE...OLE...OLE...OLE...OLE...OLE...OLE...OLE..OLE...OLE...OLE...OLE..OLE...OLE...OLE...OLE..OLE...OLE...OLE...OLE...
DEFENSE.....
Quote from: willie warrior on Today at 02:42:20 PMWright just torched Gooollllddbrick. Let's hear about his stellar defense from all the Benny slurpers. He will make it to the NBA?
You're really good at creating things to get mad about
at least howard and rowsey was explainable defesne.
this team is atheltic enough they just don't
Shoot the ball! 1st a 3sec violation then another turnover shoot the ball
Wright just torched Gooollllddbrick. Let's hear about his stellar defense from all the Benny slurpers. He will make it to the NBA?
The overdribblng continues to plague us.
Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on Today at 02:42:10 PMShaka will get transfers in the future. Shaka will do what it takes to build a better roster
That seems to be the public announcement. Willie Warrior doesn't agree?
Yeah.....When is the last time you have seen a guard get a three second violation.....
Why are we doubling on a mid post?
Losing badly in every single facet of the game.
WTF????
Stevens passes up a 8 foot shot.
Bit of a clunker, this one
At some point, MU, get mad!!! Don't take it anymore!!! Hey Shaka, you've got nothing to lose...get a T!...anything!!! Good grief!
We look like the last place team in the BE. Oh wait. Never mind.
OMG - they gotta be seeing ghosts - that's who they're passing to.
Quote from: WhiteTrash on Today at 02:40:36 PMHonestly, I don't follow. You don't think he'll get transfers?
Transfers with skill like Hamilton. Surely. Studs? Jury is out on that.
Unbelievably bad defense
Honestly just bench Ross. It's unfortunate but he's awful.
Gold has one of the flattest shots I've seen in ages
No sugar coating this one.
Quote from: rccola42 on Today at 02:49:20 PMHonestly just bench Ross. It's unfortunate but he's awful.
He's been absolutely brutal. Are you suggesting he should be shown the door?
This game proves they need a roster correction
The "bench ross" crowd... don't realize that everyone else on this team is somehow worse than him
No no guys, we're a top 50 team now. It's just a fact.
We are a low major. The gap between most of MU conference opponents is indeed widening. Thank you Shaka Kahn.
Trying to make it to half but unnatural carnal knowledge this crap effort, unnatural carnal knowledge hot shooting from a crapty Xavier team, unnatural carnal knowledge the "top 50 team in the last month posters".
Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on Today at 02:49:05 PMUnbelievably bad defense
0.0 tenacity or resistance. We look like we're on skates or trying to catch a cheetah.
This is exactly the kind of game we could use Chase as a sort of consistent bucket-getter to stem Xavier runs, and generally weather the out-of-control storm our young guys are creating on offense as a veteran guard. Instead he is not capable of doing either. It really is astonishing how little he has developed, and the #1 most glaring problem with Shaka's approach coming into the year was thinking HE could be the best player on a serious team. He's barely even starter caliber at this point.
Quote from: PointWarrior on Today at 02:26:18 PMNothing like a crap team lighting it up from 3 against Marquette.
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It happens frequently enough to make one wonder if it has anything to do with our D.
Quote from: BCHoopster on Today at 02:51:02 PMThis game proves they need a roster correction
They need a crap ton more than that
Quote from: jfp61 on Today at 02:51:08 PMThe "bench ross" crowd... don't realize that everyone else on this team is somehow worse than him
Yes, but more playing experience could help them in the future?
Get this to -10 or better.
Have Coached 80 teams and 1000 games mostly at the grade school or junior high level. Mostly private school. if an awesome player from the public schools wanted to transfer and play with us. Maybe it was wrong but always said yes at the expense of our current players playing time. That was grade school not even college lol
No explanation for Hamilton being on the floor. None.
Quote from: jfp61 on Today at 02:51:08 PMThe "bench ross" crowd... don't realize that everyone else on this team is somehow worse than him
Yeah but the other guys aren't seniors who are supposed to have developed use of a 2nd hand.
Chase way late for the help defense contest at the rim for no reason
Quote from: basedcringeMU on Today at 02:52:17 PMHe's barely even starter caliber at this point.
this team doesn't have starter caliber players.
Quote from: MuggsyB on Today at 02:50:51 PMHe's been absolutely brutal. Are you suggesting he should be shown the door?
Showing him the door would obviously be a bad culture move. I'm more suggesting that he goes down to around 20 min/night to give Phillips and others more time on the court.
Quote from: willie warrior on Today at 02:49:01 PMTransfers with skill like Hamilton. Surely. Studs? Jury is out on that.
Ok. I get it. That would be the end of Shaka. He'd better off sticking to RGV, but anything is possible.
Quote from: rccola42 on Today at 02:55:59 PMShowing him the door would obviously be a bad culture move. I'm more suggesting that he goes down to around 20 min/night to give Phillips and others more time on the court.
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Quote from: rccola42 on Today at 02:55:59 PMShowing him the door would obviously be a bad culture move. I'm more suggesting that he goes down to around 20 min/night to give Phillips and others more time on the court.
Fair point. He's still driving me up the freaking wall.
Fk.
James shot with 41 Seconds left. Xavier inbounded with under 30 seconds left!!!!
How is that legal!!!!!
Start the walk-ons in the second half
I'm watching what looks like the Harlem Globetrotters vs the Washington Generals
It's hard to make an argument that this group is any better than what we saw in December.
Quote from: mileskishnish72 on Today at 03:01:50 PMIt's hard to make an argument that this group is any better than what we saw in December.
You are what your record says you are.
MU 4 for 14 from three. Ross/Gold 0 for 7.
X 11 for 22 from three.
X had 51, yes 51 points.
Maybe some MU history poster can answer. When was last year MU did not win an away game in a season?
We gave up 51 points in a half. When was the last MU team this bad at defense? Especially with all our athletic players this year.
Wow. I can see we are not good shooters. But defense.... Come on.
Quote from: mileskishnish72 on Today at 03:01:50 PMIt's hard to make an argument that this group is any better than what we saw in December.
No, theyre top 50 now!
Curious, does Hamilton know where the basket is? Can not keep playing 4 on 5!
Top 50!
Quote from: mileskishnish72 on Today at 03:01:50 PMIt's hard to make an argument that this group is any better than what we saw in December.
I don't think we are a top 50 team. I also don't think we are the same team as we were in December. I think the truth is somewhere in the mdidle.
Quote from: 1SE on Today at 02:51:26 PMNo no guys, we're a top 50 team now. It's just a fact.
Not what I said at all, but you know that.
And this game so far is definitely a step back.
Also, offense remains an absolute disaster. Stop all that dribbling. Pass the damn ball. Get better shots. Make their defense work. Basic, CYO stuff.
Quote from: BM1090 on Today at 03:07:02 PMNot what I said at all, but you know that.
And this game so far is definitely a step back.
"The metrics are the metrics and we're 43rd in the country for the last month. If you want to ignore that then fine, but it doesn't make it less factual"
Quote from: Daniel on Today at 03:03:48 PMWe gave up 51 points in a half. When was the last MU team this bad at defense? Especially with all our athletic players this year.
Wow. I can see we are not good shooters. But defense.... Come on.
Statistically, four of Wojo's teams were worse. If you want to ignore those years then it's back to 05
Quote from: 1SE on Today at 03:10:49 PM"The metrics are the metrics and we're 43rd in the country for the last month. If you want to ignore that then fine, but it doesn't make it less factual"
Yes. And today is a new data point and we won't be anymore, barring a massive comeback. Sometimes I swear y'all try really hard to be dumb.
Quote from: 1SE on Today at 03:10:49 PM"The metrics are the metrics and we're 43rd in the country for the last month. If you want to ignore that then fine, but it doesn't make it less factual"
;D ;D
Quote from: BM1090 on Today at 03:07:02 PMNot what I said at all, but you know that.
And this game so far is definitely a step back.
You seem quite confused
Zero reason we aren't contesting shots, well, except for that whole effort thing. Let's see if we can reverse the trend and go on a 10-0 run to start the half!
If teams don't turn it over vs us, we literally can't defend at all.
Feed Royce as much as possible.
Quote from: BM1090 on Today at 03:12:18 PMYes. And today is a new data point and we won't be anymore, barring a massive comeback. Sometimes I swear y'all try really hard to be dumb.
MU is the worst team in the BE and about 125 to 150 in the country. Sounds like Shaka and MU have accepted who we are, time for everyone else to also. Changes are coming.
Can't allow that offensive reb.
Carroll with two tough shots.
Quote from: BM1090 on Today at 03:12:18 PMYes. And today is a new data point and we won't be anymore, barring a massive comeback. Sometimes I swear y'all try really hard to be dumb.
At least we'll always have 1/13-2/13. 44th. Hang a banner!
That's a terrible soft double by Chase which allowed that reversal and wide open corner three? Why?
Ross did absolutely nothing on defense all he could do was guard the 3 and he messed that up!
Trash - Exactly. Worst team in BE ...
125 or lower in the Country. Have not won a road game !
You think change is coming? I hope you are right, but I don't believe it ...
SS won't shut up about " growth " and lots of people on this board want to hand out oranges and participation medals
Lot's of playing opportunity at multiple positions....
The positive side of sucking so bad....
Swap out Chase Ross and Ben Gold with legitimate stud transfers at their positions and we're cooking next year. Fail to do so and we will be mediocre-to-bad. The assignment is extremely simple for Shaka.
N. James is going to be all BE. Sure hope MU can keep him when SJU and others come to drop a ton of cash.
I hope that challenge is successful.
Looks like a terrible challenge from the replay. Ughhh.
Quote from: MuggsyB on Today at 03:31:54 PMI hope that challenge is successful.
Me too, to hurt Driscoll's stats.
Whew.
Let's go now! D up!
Keep flushing dunks and turning X over.
We have a pulse! Let's go!!
Very nice, keep up the effort, take it to the rack
Good fight
A comeback would be nice
There aren't many guys Nigel's size that throw it down that effortlessly.
Pretty amazing 2 minute swing
Oh....C'mon DO.
Owens has to land and lay it in
Take Owens out
Huge swing there when it should have been 5.
Aaaaand there it all goes. Owens has got to finish that on the fastbreak or at the very least not chuck it almost-clean over the rim
Our Zone isn't good.
Funny how passing the ball instead of constant dribbling creates more opportunities
Garbage call.
That is a big and bad call
Royce!
That's a 3.
I know we're coming back, I'll sub in tre...
4d chess
They can't look at that?? Fk.
It was a 3 by Parham review it!!!!!!
At the next time out review!!!!
They can, and will, fix that point for us
Untimely turn by Nigel there.
I know that with growth NJJ will cut down the TO's.
That was a clear offensive foul on X.
Adien needs to dunk that.
X has no time-outs.
James is kinda good.
Have to find #3,
Keep attacking, wear X down, defend the three
This team ain't bad
Big runs happening with Ross on the bench as well
Huge fight this half and even the ref calls are hurting us still
WTF!!!! Another garbage bull c call.
Quote from: 1SE on Today at 03:47:02 PMI know we're coming back, I'll sub in tre...
4d chess
I'd much rather watch Tre than Chase.
Refs starting to take over
Mannn that is 3 straight weak foul calls against us
Gotta fight through this garbage. 2 inexcusable calls.
Don't need that shot. Keep owning the rim.
Like that.
Low IQ shot, high IQ defense immediately to make it up
The dynamic duo of James and Royce is comforting despite the losses
Son of a B. Chase needs to get that reb.
Refs missed an insanely obvious travel on that Oreb right before the kickout, he literally jumped with both feet!! Lmfao what is this crap
Big shot by Adrien. Keep fighting.
Chase is useless
Good try but not going to get there
Why is Chase biting on that shot fake???
Chase biting on the pump fake. He's just not good. I'd take him out
Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on Today at 03:24:38 PMRoss did absolutely nothing on defense all he could do was guard the 3 and he messed that up!
Chase Ross has quit.....Going thru the motions....
X has a lot of dislikable players
And then a careless reach by Chase.
What an unintelligent play, by an unintelligent and disinterested player.
Low-IQ Chase defense for the 100 millionth time. What a horrible year he has had. He doesn't do any of the things he used to do well, except occasionally getting in the passing lanes. Just horrible.
Fighting back, might not quite make it, have to battle for two halves not one
Chance Ross hasn't quit. He is just not a very good player these days.
I hate all of these announcers.
Would.be nice to finish off a comeback. That would actually be Growth.
Omg. No foul??
Fk!!!
Unfathomable no-call
Complete disaster.
Quote from: Big Papi on Today at 04:04:05 PMChance Ross hasn't quit. He is just not a very good player these days.
I hate all of these announcers.
Certainly looks like he quit.
I've seen this movie before.
Nigel was pushed with 2 hands!!
Chase is significantly worse now than he was as a freshman. I fking despise watching him, and I cannot wait for him to be gone.
We played defense for about 10 possessions.
We deserve to lose to this bad Xavier team.
Just trap there, X has no time outs. Poor decision
Another soft foul call. The last ~5 foul calls against us have been very questionable, and if those were evened out + Nigel gets the benefit of that hammering down low, I bet we win this game
Extremely frustrating. You can go down 21 early.
Good 15 minutes of basketball
Whelp, chalk up another moral victory. How.many of.those can we cash in for a real victory?
Again Too little to late no shakes
Chase just rubbing it in. The absolute chasm of quality between him and Nigel on full display. God I am so sick of him
Nigel and Royce have to do basically everything for us. It's just a lot on their plates.
Last place is ours yet
Typical ending. Different game same story. At least we know we have 3 keepers. Hopefully true Shaka will hit the portal for next year !
Future is bright if Parhsm and James can help in portal recruits!
Lost to a crap team, we are a crap team.
Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on Today at 04:12:45 PMLast place is ours yet
Yes we self Sabotaged this year. Next year we will be back.
Another good game from Royce. Hopefully he beats out Caedin for a starting spot next year. He'll have to earn it.
Quote from: BCHoopster on Today at 04:13:15 PMFuture is bright if Parhsm and James can help in portal recruits!
We're going to have to really pony up to keep them, especially James. Darling atSt John's is getting $1 million, James could get at least $1.5 million.
Quote from: PointWarrior on Today at 04:13:58 PMLost to a crap team, we are a crap team.
We've known that for three plus months.
Quote from: CountryRoads on Today at 04:15:10 PMAnother good game from Royce. Hopefully he beats out Caedin for a starting spot next year. He'll have to earn it.
Only of he gets up 10,000 hook shots over the summer
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on Today at 04:15:15 PMWe're going to have to really pony up to keep them, especially James. Darling atSt John's is getting $1 million, James could get at least $1.5 million.
Shaka's relationship is worth $1M right?
Big bag for James and Parham next year
With Stevens it is a good core to build on
We need the aforementioned trio back of course, but also need 2 additional major pieces. It's imperative we find them. This cannot be reiterated enough.
Quote from: basedcringeMU on Today at 03:38:56 PMAaaaand there it all goes. Owens has got to finish that on the fastbreak or at the very least not chuck it almost-clean over the rim
I cannot recall a successful fast break this year with DO controlling the ball.
Quote from: basedcringeMU on Today at 03:28:58 PMSwap out Chase Ross and Ben Gold with legitimate stud transfers at their positions and we're cooking next year. Fail to do so and we will be mediocre-to-bad. The assignment is extremely simple for Shaka.
You think it will be "simple" for MU to land "studs". The top experienced players want to go to teams that have chance to go far in the postseason. I don't think that will be an easy sell when competing with teams that are in the top 20 this year and are looking to replace their 23 and 24 year old players with some new ones.
It seems just as likely that MU will lose some of its own better players as it is that they can bring in studs.
Quote from: MuggsyB on Today at 04:26:38 PMWe need the aforementioned trio back of course, but also need 2 additional major pieces. It's imperative we find them. This cannot be reiterated enough.
I disagree.
It has been reiterated several times more than enough.
Quote from: wisblue on Today at 04:28:59 PMIt seems just as likely that MU will lose some of its own better players as it is that they can bring in studs.
No, it really doesn't.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on Today at 04:32:49 PMNo, it really doesn't.
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Quote from: MuggsyB on Today at 04:26:38 PMWe need the aforementioned trio back of course, but also need 2 additional major pieces. It's imperative we find them. This cannot be reiterated enough.
Yeah right. ::)
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Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on Today at 04:32:49 PMNo, it really doesn't.
I guess it depends what is meant by "studs".
Quote from: wisblue on Today at 04:38:07 PMI guess it depends what is meant by "studs".
Fair. Personally, I don't think they need absolute studs - just some good players. We look like we might have 2 studs in-house already.
I was more referencing the likelihood of losing James, Parham, and/or Stevens. I think the chances of even one of those guys leaving are minimal and much less than the chances of us adding good players in the portal.