We can attack the paint vs these guys. Take care of the ball, lace some triples, and play with poise, confidence, and precision. It's a tough task, yes. But it's certainly doable. LFG!
Thatta boy Adrien.
Chase just standing there! Box out!!
What you traditionally think of as boxing out is now a foul. Holding position is the best you can do.
Just way too loose with the rock.
Parham doesn't seem to realize that the game has started.
Why is it that Ben never comes to a jump stop 3 feet from the rim?
Quote from: tower912 on Today at 06:36:55 PMWhat you traditionally think of as boxing out is now a foul. Holding position is the best you can do.
He doesn't do that either
Quote from: Zog from Margo on Today at 06:38:46 PMParham doesn't seem to realize that the game has started.
I don't like our lack of poise and intensity early.
Good help there from Nigel. Let's go now.
WTF Ben!!!
VALUE THE BALL.
And pass the ball.
DO!!
We have to box out and rebound. Killing us.
Parham is playing like he's extremely hung over
A rebound wouldn't hurt.
Scrappiness and physicality really getting to Parham
Quote from: MuggsyB on Today at 06:43:47 PMVALUE THE BALL.
And pass the ball.
Ben did pass it. :P
Parham a TO machine tonight.
MU needs to recruit to get stronger. Stevens, Gold and James do pretty well. Hamilton is not very good but he is physical. The rest of the team is pretty soft.
Quote from: Spaniel with a Short Tail on Today at 06:48:36 PMBen did pass it. :P
To a freaking ghost! That simply cannot happen.
Chase has given us BUPKIS btw. Wake up dude!
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on Today at 06:48:24 PMA rebound wouldn't hurt.
Time to bring Hamilton and Clark in to give us a spark, eh?
Great a Jay Wright interview right in the middle of the game.
Get Hamilton out
Unreal turn by Caedin. Get him off the floor.
Wow my hbo max feed is horrible. Stuttering Avery 5 seconds.
I've counted 7 turns.
Too much dribbling :(
MU really getting outworked.
Someone needs to see one go down
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Tonight...
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Finally. We needed a trifecta.
Just tuned in...Shaka can't resist going to Caeden. What's up with that?
Terrible luck there.
Turns, turns, turns, turns,
If you don't value the ball, you have no chance.
Ross got into the stat line.
Finally Ben with a man's rebound!
Quote from: Daniel on Today at 06:52:56 PMWow my hbo max feed is horrible. Stuttering Avery 5 seconds.
My is fine, but I'm stuttering under my breath.
Chase has played all 13 mins I think.
TNT working well
Quote from: Zog from Margo on Today at 06:56:45 PMRoss got into the stat line.
Zog,
1 reb
1 dime
1 turn
0 pts
1 freaking shot.
Uhhh.....WTF????? In 13 mins.
Chase is just awful to watch at this point
Royce can get that shot at will.
Why are we trapping them?
Bam. Stevens.
Our Seniors are no shows.
Tremendous dime from AS!
Stevens is becoming more impressive each week
Why is Caedin back in tbe game?
Right now, Shaka is channeling Mike Deane.
Young guys look good.
Please give anyone else hamiltons minutes.
MU puts Stevens on Lewis. Having a frosh be your top perimeter defender says something.
Also, why are we smothering them 40 feet from the rim? What's the issue with taking a step back and thwarting the vertical drive?
Not a bad response after starting the game at the 12 minute mark. Turns and terrible defensive rebounding are killing us. It's one of those slow down while also up the intensity situations. Let's see how we finish the half.
Quote from: DrJay24 on Today at 07:09:38 PMPlease give anyone else hamiltons minutes.
I would 100% rather see Jonah Lucas in the game
Love how we try to block every three
The young players are good. That's the good news. Would be nice to get a road win here. Just because
F2???
Oh unnatural carnal knowledge Brennan. That's a F2.
Chase with a bit of an extended seat, interesting
Nigel needs to settle down a bit.
Nigel missing a lot of lay ups tonight.
The overdribbling is killing us.
Damarius and Royce both seriously need to tighten up their dribbles
Shades of early season MU but hanging in there
Parham may have gotten nutted on that screen
Caedin goes in the Villanova lead doubles. I hope Shaka realizes we won in spite of Caedin last game. But I was trying to encourage Caedin after the game.
Quote from: tower912 on Today at 07:17:01 PMNigel missing a lot of lay ups tonight.
He really is.
Owens can not pass and can not catch
Defense locking in nicely. Nova missed FTs and bunnies not hurting lol
Nothin a bad spot non the road. Need a strong half two. Need our seniors.
Quote from: tower912 on Today at 07:17:01 PMNigel missing a lot of lay ups tonight.
Very uncharacteristic
Down 4, with a chance to go down 2/1 at halftime, on the road, with 11 freaking turnovers.
Wow, Ben.
Gold bricked it but that was a great set for a really good shot.
Quote from: tower912 on Today at 07:18:56 PMParham may have gotten nutted on that screen
Rewatched it. Brennan absolutely punched Parham in the abdomen
Major silver lining is that our seniors are looking as replaceable as ever, swap them out with a pair of transfers next year and we could take an enormous leap forward with everyone else (fingers crossed) coming back
Wow. Missed lay up. Rushed it. Take a look at the rim! Still not a bag position on the road
2 points out of ross/gold
Reverting to early season lay-up form.
I can't really point to anything MU did well that half, so down just 4 is pretty impressive.
Stevens is the one guy that rarely gets sped up. Plays with great poise.
Only down by four playing as sloppy as we had is an encouraging sign.
Another big half for our seniors.
Seniors combining for a 2-5-2 statline with 1 block, 2 turnovers, and 0-3 shooting. Wild that the rest of the team has found a way to make this a game
It's not going to be difficult for a newcomer next year to jump in front of Clark and Phillips on the depth chart
Im all seriousness does it look like Ross is trying? Or is interested in playing at all? I'm not seeing it.
Chase and Ben are both moving like they have the flu. Zero energy.
With the TO's we've had, with the offensive rebounds we've allowed, with their 3-point shooting, it's amazing it's this close.
Go, Warriors - get this one!
Quote from: tower912 on Today at 07:32:15 PMChase and Ben are both moving like they have the flu. Zero energy.
Does that mean they have the flu or are you just speculating?
MU with 5 assists and 11 TOs. Add that to giving up a load of ORBs and it is surprising it is this close. Definitely need some front court help.
Quote from: MuggsyB on Today at 07:33:39 PMDoes that mean they have the flu or are you just speculating?
Speculating. Just slow and lacking any energy at all.
My goodness
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We shot 40% to their 36%. Our turnovers and rebounding has given them the 4pt lead. Maybe will play a better 2nd half this time around. Now that would be progress.
And Chase finished with 19. Hopefully he repeats.
Kevin Willard bringing the Seton Hall thuggery to Nova.
Quote from: MuggsyB on Today at 07:33:39 PMDoes that mean they have the flu or are you just speculating?
Ross didn't seem like it when he was on TV interview pre game. He and Gold just terrible first half, no health issue or injury excuses. Last game Ross had 17 in second half, so maybe a repeat.
That last shot of the half makes me think Ben consulted Ham on how to shoot so close to the hoop.
Quote from: basedcringeMU on Today at 07:26:36 PMSeniors combining for a 2-5-2 statline with 1 block, 2 turnovers, and 0-3 shooting. Wild that the rest of the team has found a way to make this a game
...and our Junior getting only 1 minute of playing time, but he is good at making journal entries.
Last game MU was out rebounded on offensive glass 17-4.
Tonight, it is 10-3 already and Nova had two possessions with two offensive rebounds, leading t0 three possessions on really one play. Both ended up being kickouts for made three pointers.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on Today at 07:35:20 PMMy goodness
https://x.com/i/status/2021394744094621860
Yeah, the freshman and sophomores have taken over. The bonus or unexpected contributions you occasionally get from a freshman is now coming from the seniors.
What???
Stevens is gonna be a good one.
Where is Royce going there defensively on that pick and roll
Those two threes from Ben were beyond flat.
Let's go now!
Ben with the not easy assist.
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Another trash foul on Brennan there. Not even trying to do anything but hack the hell out of Parham.
We're basically playing 3 on 5 on offense.
Quote from: wadesworld on Today at 07:45:42 PMAnother trash foul on Brennan there. Not even trying to do anything but hack the hell out of Parham.
Agreed. Should have been tossed.
Grab the freaking ball Chase!
Fk.
We play such great D for 28 sec.
Royce has to get his feet in order defensively, but he was clearly inbounds there
Uh oh, please be on AS
Probably F1 on James. They are desperate to make that call up.
Nigel James picking up too many unnecessary fouls.
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That is unnatural carnal knowledgeing egregious
Terrible call, and we are making some poor decisions
Come on now. If the second one on Brennan wasn't even looked at, that's not even close to a F1. At least be consistent.
Life on the road.
Who the F is Boban,
The best part about your Seniors is that they become Freshman.
Another obscene call. Stevens' arms are straight up and Lewis initiates the contact! Wtf are we doing!
We can't win this game if we get nothing from Chase & Ben.
Chase a freshman?
Chase is genuinely a terrible offensive player, he should be playing 20 mins per game
Geez Ross.
Ref show.
Thanks for everything, Chase.
Quote from: basedcringeMU on Today at 07:59:07 PMChase is genuinely a terrible offensive player, he should be playing 20 mins per game
A horrible offensive player that's regressed defensively is just a bad player at the end of the day.
Ross should be on the bench!
Ross and Gold just awful
Amazing we are only down by 3.
If they played some quality ball, they would be up.
WTF.
why does shaka use owens?
Unreal whistle
Royce is so freaking good...aaaand now he's hurt.
This game is right there for us but again, we need something from our Seniors.
Tight whistle, shockingly we have taken advantage
That foul call against Owens was genuinely staggering
If Nova is going to shoot 8-17 from the FT line, maybe they should attempt to get rebounds.
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Ungodly amount of turnovers
Quote from: jfp61 on Today at 08:02:59 PMwhy does shaka use owens?
We don't have many options on the bench.
As are in the game.... Then we make a few mistakes . Need to clean it up to win. Just some crazy plays
@.
Norman!
Atta boy Tre, way to be ready
And then Tre!
Nice moves by Norman.
That should have been an and 1.
Ridiculous no call on Tre's second layup.
Of Tre, Sean, and Ham, if 2 have to go I hope it's the latter two.
Why foul there???
Royce
Fking
Parham!!
LFG!!
The pocket books will need to be opened for Royce.
So much better on three point close outs
Tre went straight up.
Yet another obscene call
Its going to be a free throw contest to the end.
Such a bad call on Tre. Changed the game.
Need a time-out.
Or not!
Got to take care of the ball and ride Royce and Adrian
They can't guard Royce inside. Once tbey double though Nigel needs to move the ball. He doesn't need to force or overdribble.
Can Ross find a way to contribute now?
Gold
Quote from: MuggsyB on Today at 08:21:49 PMCan Ross find a way to contribute now?
You would think.
Benny!!!
Attack, attack, attack!!!
Usurp the paint, take no prisoners!!
Rack up the points. We have them on their heels.
Quote from: 21Jumpstreet on Today at 08:24:13 PMGold
Silly me was screaming for him to take the three. But what do I know?
Do free throws matter?
Ben! Don't make me open another bottle.
Gold
Brennan traveled twice.
BEN!!!
Time-out.
Will we keep attacking or will we get passive? One wins, one doesn't. Finish this game strong
Punch back now
Does Shaka put Chase back in?
Might be better to foul them versus letting them shoot 3s
Don't ever underestimate this team's ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
Our opponents always seem to have the three and we don't.
Nigel is just standing around off-ball. Has given up multiple wide open 3s in this half alone.
Gold
All three of those triples were wide open
Time to d up.
Weak ass foul call there.
Another mega, mega soft foul call. They just don't stop
Ben Gold made two 3 pointers in a row.
Quote from: rccola42 on Today at 08:29:45 PMNigel is just standing around off-ball. Has given up multiple wide open 3s in this half alone.
He's had a tough game.
Going to see zone so plan for it
Beautiful arc on Ben's corner three.
If Chase locks in on D and rebounds, we win. If he tries to take over on offense, we don't.
Quote from: 21Jumpstreet on Today at 08:31:38 PMIf Chase locks in on D and rebounds, we win. If he tries to take over on offense, we don't.
Chase being in the game right now makes me almost certain of a loss. He brings nothing in these situations. How many times have we seen it?
Ball don't lie.
Chase!!!
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on Today at 08:33:01 PMChase being in the game right now makes me almost certain of a loss. He brings nothing in these situations. How many times have we seen it?
Perkins is way too comfortable right now.
Find Perkins.
*Yet another* mega soft foul call
Jeez. Minor contact.
Just comically bad defense right now. Going to have to score on most possessions here on out.
Not the shot we want there.
How. Nigel.
Get Royce touches.
Nigel really had a rough one.
Nigel got grabbed very blatantly on that last one. Unreal ref job
Just a brutal stretch for Nigel. May have been fouled?
James did it at home against Seton Hall as well. Completely self destructed.
Tough game for James tonight. He'll learn from it
Royce injury absolutely kills us
Freshman on the road. Learning experience.
Very poor game for James. He plays even half normal and they win.
Quote from: tower912 on Today at 08:39:41 PMFreshman on the road. Learning experience.
Been that way entire season
B/S officiating this half.
If this last couple of minutes wasn't so predictable, it would have made me mad.
Any heroes on Marquette?
Quote from: MuggsyB on Today at 08:37:55 PMGet Royce touches.
I don't think he has enough legs left. It's gonna have to be Adrien or Nigel.
MU is much improved over where they were early in the year. Just don't have finishers yet.
Quote from: Zog from Margo on Today at 08:39:55 PMVery poor game for James. He plays even half normal and they win.
James is going to struggle against teams that have a rim protector.
Rewatching that Nigel turnover with 50 seconds to go and he very, very clearly is grabbed on his dribbling arm from behind
Nigel may have gotten fouled the possession before, but his overdribbling has been totally unnecessary today.
14-24 in our last 38... pathetic
Quote from: wisblue on Today at 08:41:43 PMJames is going to struggle against teams that have a rim protector.
Nova doesn't have a rim protector. And he dropped 31 against them at Fiserv on like 12 shots.
At least we're consistent
Lost because of guard play tonight
Kudos to Parham and Stevens
Our last plays of the game are problematic
Had we gotten a shot off, I'd be content with this effort. Since we didn't AGAIN, I just can't
Our inability to get a good look at the end of games is very frustrating. At least we aren't getting blown out anymore
Same old story.
Guess, if hadn't seen it so many times before, might be mad.
Omg
Wtf was that?
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on Today at 08:43:44 PMOur last plays of the game are problematic
Once we actually get a shot off, it's totally going to go in.
Quote from: basedcringeMU on Today at 08:42:04 PMRewatching that Nigel turnover with 50 seconds to go and he very, very clearly is grabbed on his dribbling arm from behind
Yeah, I think more than one of his TOs could have been a whistle. Tough finish.
Good fight. We played well enough to win.
Nice effort boys.
Yet another great end-of-game play. That is 100% on the coaches.
Would love for someone in the press to push Shaka during the post game presser on the consistent end of game "last shot" struggles. Draw up something my goodness dude.
Feel bad for the kids.
Invaluable experience for James, Stevens, and Parham.
Actually thought Shaka did a solid job with the exception of Hamilton, especially with TOs
Towel got stuck in the throat again. Played hard but poorly on both ends down th stretch.
Great game for Parham and Stevens until crunch time. Poor games for James and Ross. Going into next year, I'm still only seeing James, Parham and Stevens as legitimate starters. Rest of the team is fairly mediocre. Phillips has a chance.
Quote from: CountryRoads on Today at 08:45:16 PMGood fight. We played well enough to win.
Maybe makes this loss worse, should have won, such a frustrating season.
Quote from: MuggsyB on Today at 08:42:11 PMNigel may have gotten fouled the possession before, but his overdribbling has been totally unnecessary today.
Refs, refs, refs.....went both ways. If Nova made free throws, not even close.
Nigel on those three possessions under two minutes. Turnover, missed three, turnover. Ballgame. He dribbles way too much, no passing. 8 turnovers?
Other was MU up 9, MU does it usual double teams, player kicks it out for wide open threes by Perkins. Three possessions in a row. Ballgame.
Got screwed on Villanova's final inbound with 14.8 left. They definitely took >5 seconds to get the ball in. Should have been MU ball down by 1.
A.B.C.
No Cadillac for MU
No steak knives for MU
Yes, transfer portal for MU.
Quote from: 18thandWells on Today at 08:44:40 PMOnce we actually get a shot off, it's totally going to go in.
Don't blocked shots still count as a shot? Progress.
Quote from: IL Warrior on Today at 08:47:36 PMGot screwed on Villanova's final inbound with 14.8 left. They definitely took >5 seconds to get the ball in. Should have been MU ball down by 1.
Watching it live, I didn't think Askew had both feet down out of bounds when he caught the pass on the baseline. If he didn't, it should have been a line violation. Maybe I was mistaken.
Lost because of Nigel down game, Royce cramped late after dominating all game, Chase/Ben total nonfactors for the first 30 mins, and bad refereeing. Not the worst thing by any means. Nova are good.
I also know the end-of-game shots have been poor but this one was way different than the others, when you're down 3 and have to avoid the intentional foul. Of course it's gonna be hard to get a good 3 look, inherently much more challenging than just attempting a shot at all in a tie game
Nope, free throws no matta
Quote from: nyg on Today at 08:47:28 PMRefs, refs, refs.....went both ways. If Nova made free throws, not even close.
Nigel on those three possessions under two minutes. Turnover, missed three, turnover. Ballgame. He dribbles way too much, no passing. 8 turnovers?
Other was MU up 9, MU does it usual double teams, player kicks it out for wide open threes by Perkins. Three possessions in a row. Ballgame.
Poor coaching. Poor defense and as usual no shot to end the game. How do you give wide open corner 3's when you are up 9 ?
Another last-minute failure. Is this a lack of direction from inadequate coaching or is it a gag job by the guys on the floor?
Quote from: Zog from Margo on Today at 08:50:27 PMWatching it live, I didn't think Askew had both feet down out of bounds when he caught the pass on the baseline. If he didn't, it should have been a line violation. Maybe I was mistaken.
I also thought the pass to Askew looked odd. Refs definitely let Villanova get away with a lot down the stretch and they needed every bit of it.
It makes sense Shaka doesn't work on end of game situations since we have major issues just playing 39 minutes of high major basketball.
I believe next year will be better.
Quote from: mileskishnish72 on Today at 08:52:14 PMAnother last-minute failure. Is this a lack of direction from inadequate coaching or is it a gag job by the guys on the floor?
It's lack of Senior leadership. Neither Ben or Chase can create a shot for themselves and the young guys look to them for direction.
Chase has been a total zero in his Senior season. Ben isn't far off.
1) Give up on the defensive traps and double teams. We don't have the athletes to force turnovers and give up so many open looks.
2) will anyone be surprised when Chase is busted for throwing games?
3) parham is a taller, more physical, yet slightly slower version of Lazar
4) how many times do we slow down the ball with 4-5 minutes left and with a lead?
I thought Shaka did a good job overall, but picking up Lewis that high down the stretch was a big mistake. No one could stay in front of him over that distance.
Quote from: Zog from Margo on Today at 08:56:57 PMI thought Shaka did a good job overall, but picking up Lewis that high down the stretch was a big mistake. No one could stay in front of him over that distance.
Ya....I honestly didn't get that tbe entire game.