Caedin and Tre's narrative and reputations with the fans....
The fans know they stink.....
Are they getting boo'ed?????
If he can't re-habilitate their reputations.....He will be forced to jettison them.....There really will not be an excuse....
You can't carry two worthless players on a top 20 revenue team and get away with it....
It is not fair to the fans, alumni, university, and especially the rest of the team.....James can't play 40 minutes every night....
Find the best one year portal center rental you can.....A Kur type.....You simply can't go into next year with these two on the team.....
Find a 40% guard three shooter....second....
Easy....peasy....
It may be mean.....But it is reality.....
Or the guys who play in front of him were in foul trouble and he needed to put 5 players on the court, and with Butler never really threatening to close the gap a ton he maybe saved Nigel and Royce a bit more than he would've had things tightened up for as long as he could.
But sure. Maybe he's trying to rehab their image so fans don't hate it when they're back.
Also, thank god we don't have a dozen other threads discussing the need to move on from those two and Sean.
People are are asking why they are playing.....
You are correct....Foul trouble and James can't play 40 minutes....
Stevens, Phillips, and Clark should be in for those minutes....
They have a chance....
There is no other reason.....Just like having Tre on the Shaka show the other night....
I am sure Tre is a great person....he just is not a great basketball player....
Fixing their "reputation" by benching them? They're benched cause they can't play. Simple as that
Quote from: wadesworld on February 07, 2026, 07:24:43 PMOr the guys who play in front of him were in foul trouble and he needed to put 5 players on the court, and with Butler never really threatening to close the gap a ton he maybe saved Nigel and Royce a bit more than he would've had things tightened up for as long as he could.
But sure. Maybe he's trying to rehab their image so fans don't hate it when they're back.
Also, thank god we don't have a dozen other threads discussing the need to move on from those two and Sean.
Sean's 100% gone!
Quote from: #UnleashJosh on February 07, 2026, 08:12:15 PMSean's 100% gone!
A guy I golf with told me that he's going to Ohio State.
Quote from: wadesworld on February 07, 2026, 07:24:43 PMthank god we don't have a dozen other threads discussing the need to move on from those two and Sean.
Yeah it doesn't need to be discussed. move on from whoever you want.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on February 07, 2026, 08:13:52 PMA guy I golf with told me that he's going to Ohio State.
My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Sean pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious".
But lowkey, Sean's 100% gone and going to claim a 2nd medical redshirt.
Quote from: #UnleashJosh on February 07, 2026, 10:40:13 PMBut lowkey, Sean's 100% gone and going to claim a 2nd medical redshirt.
Yeah, I certainly don't know anything, but it seems pretty obvious that he is retaining eligibility that he will likely use elsewhere.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on February 07, 2026, 08:13:52 PMA guy I golf with told me that he's going to Ohio State.
I'm more and more vindicated every game Nigel goes for 16 5 and 5 while Sean sits on the bench in street clothes waiting to leave....
Quote from: The Sultan on February 08, 2026, 07:26:10 AMYeah, I certainly don't know anything, but it seems pretty obvious that he is retaining eligibility that he will likely use elsewhere.
Financially, it couldn't work out any better for both sides if he walks. MU cuts its losses, opens a roster spot and saves some money. For SJ, he has no chance of playing basketball for money beyond college. 2 full seasons at a big school can be life-changing money.
Quote from: Warrior of Law on February 08, 2026, 07:48:50 AMFinancially, it couldn't work out any better for both sides if he walks. MU cuts its losses, opens a roster spot and saves some money. For SJ, he has no chance of playing basketball for money beyond college. 2 full seasons at a big school can be life-changing money.
I don't see how Jones will be able to land big money at a big school. I would guess that he would step down in competition somewhere where he can play a lot, and see how it goes before figuring out his last year.
Quote from: panda on February 08, 2026, 07:27:48 AMI'm more and more vindicated every game Nigel goes for 16 5 and 5 while Sean sits on the bench in street clothes waiting to leave....
He's been in the portal since last year!
Quote from: wadesworld on February 08, 2026, 08:14:14 AMHe's been in the portal since last year!
This isn't the burn you think it is
Quote from: Warrior of Law on February 08, 2026, 07:48:50 AMFinancially, it couldn't work out any better for both sides if he walks. MU cuts its losses, opens a roster spot and saves some money. For SJ, he has no chance of playing basketball for money beyond college. 2 full seasons at a big school can be life-changing money.
[/b]
Life changing? Please describe a monetary number. Jones is a 5ft 9 point guard who has played sparingly due to injuries and has averaged like 4 points a game. What "big" school would actually want him at this point and pay him "life changing" NIL money.
Yes, it is co tradictory to both want him gone and think he will get big money elsewhere. If you think he is good enough to get big money elsewhere, you should want him at MU.
When Hamilton first checked in yesterday, Im not sure what he did in his first minute or so but when the next tv timeout hit Shaka didnt acknowledge anyone else, went right to Hamilton and chewed him out all the way back to the huddle. Dont remember Shaka doing that to anyone for a while now.
If it wasnt for Royce being in foul trouble and Gold still hobbling I dont think he'd play much at all anymore.
Clark getting a run late in the 2nd half, over Hamilton, for the first time this year was very interesting too.
Quote from: The Sultan on February 08, 2026, 07:58:47 AMI don't see how Jones will be able to land big money at a big school. I would guess that he would step down in competition somewhere where he can play a lot, and see how it goes before figuring out his last year.
Marquette should have an easy out in this one. Sean has been here for 4 years already collecting checks. He can go collect less money elsewhere to play for a year or 2 more. I'm also not sure he will want to stay for that reason combined with the fact that he won't play much if he stays.
He's already collected this P5 checks for 4 years. Onto his next stop.
Quote from: JTJ3 on February 08, 2026, 08:56:52 AMClark getting a run late in the 2nd half, over Hamilton, for the first time this year was very interesting too.
Eye test and all, but I don't understand why Josh isn't getting virtually all of Caedin's minutes already.
I'm not saying Josh should be getting serious run, but he at least seems to have a concept of plan out there. I don't think I've ever seen a DI player with less of a feel for the game than Hamilton. He never appears to know where he should be or what he should be doing.
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on February 08, 2026, 12:26:30 PMEye test and all, but I don't understand why Josh isn't getting virtually all of Caedin's minutes already.
I'm not saying Josh should be getting serious run, but he at least seems to have a concept of plan out there. I don't think I've ever seen a DI player with less of a feel for the game than Hamilton. He never appears to know where he should be or what he should be doing.
Josh can barely get up and down the floor two possessions in a row.
Quote from: panda on February 08, 2026, 12:28:11 PMJosh can barely get up and down the floor two possessions in a row.
If after 2 years in the program he can't give 8-10 minutes a game, I'd have him checked for a serious underlying condition.
Quote from: panda on February 08, 2026, 12:28:11 PMJosh can barely get up and down the floor two possessions in a row.
True. I responded with a like to TSmith's comment about Hamilton having no feel for the game and not knowing where to be or what to do.
Quote from: Warrior of Law on February 08, 2026, 07:48:50 AMFinancially, it couldn't work out any better for both sides if he walks. MU cuts its losses, opens a roster spot and saves some money. For SJ, he has no chance of playing basketball for money beyond college. 2 full seasons at a big school can be life-changing money.
Did this whole situation really work out all that well for Marquette? Sean's been collecting checks for the past two years despite playing less than 10 games total, even though he was healthy for about half of last season. I get that the money was already spent this year, but it seems like MU got the short end of the stick, especially considering Sean is not a Big East-level player. He definitely rode the RGV gravy train for as long as he could, and right now there's no guarantee that he'll actually leave.
Quote from: burger on February 07, 2026, 07:16:45 PMCaedin and Tre's narrative and reputations with the fans....
The fans know they stink.....
Are they getting boo'ed?????
If he can't re-habilitate their reputations.....He will be forced to jettison them.....There really will not be an excuse....
You can't carry two worthless players on a top 20 revenue team and get away with it....
It is not fair to the fans, alumni, university, and especially the rest of the team.....James can't play 40 minutes every night....
Find the best one year portal center rental you can.....A Kur type.....You simply can't go into next year with these two on the team.....
Find a 40% guard three shooter....second....
Easy....peasy....
It may be mean.....But it is reality.....
You have a link to that? If Marquette is top 20 in revenue for basketball then why is our coach #44 in salary?
Men's Basketball Head Coach Salaries - USA TODAY (https://sportsdata.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/mens-basketball/coach)
Would benefit MU for all of Hamilton, Jones, Norman and Clark to be elsewhere next year
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on February 08, 2026, 12:31:25 PMIf after 2 years in the program he can't give 8-10 minutes a game, I'd have him checked for a serious underlying condition.
Is it a conditioning issue? I guess that would explain the lack of #FREEINGJOSH - but I find it hard to.believe a 20 year old can't run at full speed for 5 minutes.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on February 08, 2026, 01:00:44 PMYou have a link to that? If Marquette is top 20 in revenue for basketball then why is our coach #44 in salary?
Men's Basketball Head Coach Salaries - USA TODAY (https://sportsdata.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/mens-basketball/coach)
Shaka made 3.9 million in FY 2024 according to documents that paint touches wrote about. That puts shaka right around top 25 in country.
https://painttouches.com/2025/07/17/analyzing-big-east-coach-salaries-in-2024-dan-hurley-shaka-smart/
What was the biggest fleece is wojo nearly got 4.6 million in FY 2023.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on February 07, 2026, 08:13:52 PMA guy I golf with told me that he's going to Ohio State.
Lol. You friend is FOS.
I think scoop snoop is being sarcastic, throwing back to last offseason when it was asserted that Sean would be leaving then.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on February 08, 2026, 01:00:44 PMYou have a link to that? If Marquette is top 20 in revenue for basketball then why is our coach #44 in salary?
Men's Basketball Head Coach Salaries - USA TODAY (https://sportsdata.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/mens-basketball/coach)
Bad data.
Quote from: Biggie Clausen on February 08, 2026, 12:55:37 PMDid this whole situation really work out all that well for Marquette? Sean's been collecting checks for the past two years despite playing less than 10 games total, even though he was healthy for about half of last season. I get that the money was already spent this year, but it seems like MU got the short end of the stick, especially considering Sean is not a Big East-level player. He definitely rode the RGV gravy train for as long as he could, and right now there's no guarantee that he'll actually leave.
I'd be absolutely shocked if Sean is back next season.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on February 08, 2026, 08:19:47 PMI'd be absolutely shocked if Sean is back next season.
MU's position is that they gave him 4 years. The parties know he's not getting paid by MU next year, so it looks like an amicable agreement. If SJ can get two years of pay from someone else, that would be great for him.
Quote from: Warrior of Law on February 08, 2026, 08:31:28 PMMU's position is that they gave him 4 years. The parties know he's not getting paid by MU next year, so it looks like an amicable agreement. If SJ can get two years of pay from someone else, that would be great for him.
I think Sean would want to leave anyway - I have to imagine he'd like to find a starting role at a lower level than play 10 MPG here.
Quote from: Markusquette on February 08, 2026, 01:39:21 PMWould benefit MU for all of Hamilton, Jones, Norman and Clark to be elsewhere next year
I'd still like to keep Clark. There's something there. I think he's two years away, but no harm in keeping him as a 3rd center and letting him develop. They just need to upgrade the spots in front of him.
I don't mind if they keep Clark as the
14th / 15th man as he's a legit 7' 1" ...
But, really there's nothing there. Wait till year 5 to have him - maybe- play 12 minutes a game ?!
Considering the effort that has been put into Hamilton and Clark, I don't see any reason why MU wouldn't keep them on the roster for defense/rebounding. Clark may learn to block shots, too. Definitely need a post presence offensively, but they can fill a niche off the bench. The Lowery and Sean Jones spots can get filled with improvements. Norman seems to have settled into his limited role, too.
People probably need to stop thinking there are going to be mass departures. I would guess one additional...maybe two. But the bulk of next year's team is already here or committed.
Yes.
Quote from: The Sultan on February 09, 2026, 07:46:56 AMPeople probably need to stop thinking there are going to be mass departures. I would guess one additional...maybe two. But the bulk of next year's team is already here or committed.
Unfortunately I agree with you. And it will put a hard cap on our ceiling next year.
I believe that Katz accurately reported what Shaka told him. That Shaka really wants to keep all of the freshmen and sophomores.
Quote from: BM1090 on February 09, 2026, 12:32:12 AMI'd still like to keep Clark. There's something there. I think he's two years away, but no harm in keeping him as a 3rd center and letting him develop. They just need to upgrade the spots in front of him.
I mean, there's some harm. The money you spend to keep him around 4-5 years is money you can't invest elsewhere.
It's not the end of the world, but going forward, it makes no sense in the NIL era to recruit (and pay) players who need four years of runway. You're investing four or five years of resources into a kid in hopes of getting 1-2 years of quality production from him. Not ideal asset management.
Quote from: Pakuni on February 09, 2026, 08:51:47 AMI mean, there's some harm. The money you spend to keep him around 4-5 years is money you can't invest elsewhere.
It's not the end of the world, but going forward, it makes no sense in the NIL era to recruit (and pay) players who need four years of runway. You're investing four or five years of resources into a kid in hopes of getting 1-2 years of quality production from him. Not ideal asset management.
Glad you posted this. "What's the harm in letting a few guys hang around, even if they do not show promise?" College bball is a business, and money that could be used on good prospects should not be spent on those without promise. Business 101.
Quote from: Warrior of Law on February 09, 2026, 07:36:22 AMConsidering the effort that has been put into Hamilton and Clark, I don't see any reason why MU wouldn't keep them on the roster for defense/rebounding.
Well, then they better start defending and rebounding.
And it would be nice if they could shoot over 50% at the rim, too.
Quote from: Pakuni on February 09, 2026, 08:51:47 AMit makes no sense in the NIL era to recruit (and pay) players who need four years of runway.
Exactly, this is what low and mid majors were created for. To sort out the marginal players.
Quote from: JTJ3 on February 08, 2026, 08:56:52 AMWhen Hamilton first checked in yesterday, Im not sure what he did in his first minute or so but when the next tv timeout hit Shaka didnt acknowledge anyone else, went right to Hamilton and chewed him out all the way back to the huddle. Dont remember Shaka doing that to anyone for a while now.
If it wasnt for Royce being in foul trouble and Gold still hobbling I dont think he'd play much at all anymore.
Clark getting a run late in the 2nd half, over Hamilton, for the first time this year was very interesting too.
I was watching Hamilton closely to see how he'd do. If it's the time I'm thinking of, he completely botched his coverage of his guy and then committed an unnecessary foul.
I mean, there's some harm. The money you spend to keep him around 4-5 years is money you can't invest elsewhere.
It's not the end of the world, but going forward, it makes no sense in the NIL era to recruit (and pay) players who need four years of runway. You're investing four or five years of resources into a kid in hopes of getting 1-2 years of quality production from him. Not ideal asset management.
Pakuni, point taken, but with 15 Scholarships that 14th or 15th guy just might be a diamond in the rough. By year 3 (1 RS year) you should know if he is contributing. If he could not go elsewhere and is cut, but smart, he would take his NIL/Revenue share and pay for his last year of tuition and graduate.
I agree that mass departures are unlikely after this year. I can certainly see Sean Jones transferring just to get playing time somewhere. And perhaps Hamilton. That's it I think unless another school offers James, Stevens, or Parham money they cannot resist. Norman isn't going anywhere. Why would he? Same for Clark. And I can't see Shaka running either one of them off. I just don't think that is his style. So, at most I can see Shaka bringing in one transfer, if any, and that is not going to make next year dramatically different.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on February 09, 2026, 09:43:08 AMI mean, there's some harm. The money you spend to keep him around 4-5 years is money you can't invest elsewhere.
It's not the end of the world, but going forward, it makes no sense in the NIL era to recruit (and pay) players who need four years of runway. You're investing four or five years of resources into a kid in hopes of getting 1-2 years of quality production from him. Not ideal asset management.
Pakuni, point taken, but with 15 Scholarships that 14th or 15th guy just might be a diamond in the rough. By year 3 (1 RS year) you should know if he is contributing. If he could not go elsewhere and is cut, but smart, he would take his NIL/Revenue share and pay for his last year of tuition and graduate.
Shaka stinks at finding diamonds in the rough
Quote from: muwarrior69 on February 09, 2026, 09:43:08 AMIf he could not go elsewhere and is cut, but smart, he would take his NIL/Revenue share and pay for his last year of tuition and graduate.
Not sure you needed to use teal. ;D
In some cases, Marquette may be get played by the players.
The use of the term "running off" in reference to what some here think Shaka would not do? Nothing beats using a loaded expression to make your point, huh? He can make the final decision quietly, inform the player, and make it look like it was the player's decision. I am sure he would help the player find a good landing spot, and the departure would not need to be referred to as being "run off".
Man... now you guys are turning on Clark?? The redshirt freshman getting his first game minutes in D1 college basketball this season?? No chance for him to get minutes to get comfortable?
What the hell kind of expectations do you guys have?
And seriously, the talk regarding Sean Jones... dude has been riddled with injuries which sucks for him, the team, and the fans. But to say he's not a BE player? I mean, the kid had some serious upside potential and his injuries prevented us from seeing that potential fulfill. BOO FRIGGEN HOO to you "fans"
The way some of you talk around here and on social media make you look like morons and a-holes who don't appreciate the nuances of the game, the strategy and advantages of Shaka's system (only focusing on the cons), and the reality of the NIL era.
You all need to be mindful of what you wish for and take care that you're not part of the cadre of entitled fans who are going to actually help drive away our highest potential players that we all want to stick around. You think Nigel enjoys seeing social media "fans" who talk absolute garbage about teammates he cares about? Reality check, players and teams READ social media and message board posts.
If you can't help but to be a jackass, then go back to your parents basements and stay off the internet until you learn how to cope with one singular blown up year.
Quote from: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on February 09, 2026, 09:13:10 AMWell, then they better start defending and rebounding.
And it would be nice if they could shoot over 50% at the rim, too.
Sample size way too small, but Josh's rebounding numbers are ELITE. that's why it would be great to see how they hold up in some extended run - certainly the rest of game isn't any WORSE than Caedins - why he doesn't get all those minutes I can't understand...
Quote from: muwarrior69 on February 09, 2026, 09:43:08 AMPakuni, point taken, but with 15 Scholarships that 14th or 15th guy just might be a diamond in the rough. By year 3 (1 RS year) you should know if he is contributing. If he could not go elsewhere and is cut, but smart, he would take his NIL/Revenue share and pay for his last year of tuition and graduate.
My point is, as rocky alludes to, let the diamonds in the rough go play a couple years in the Big West or the MAC, and if they develop into high-major talents there, go snag one from the portal. Let someone else bear the risk of the player not panning out and spend your resources on players capable of contributing from the minute they arrive campus. (Note: Contribute doesn't mean star or even start, but be a part of a regular rotation).
I don't see much benefit in paying multiple players not to play, in hopes they might be help in 3-4 years.
Quote from: Pakuni on February 09, 2026, 10:33:33 AMMy point is, as rocky alludes to, let the diamonds in the rough go play a couple years in the Big West or the MAC, and if they develop into high-major talents there, go snag one from the portal. Let someone else bear the risk of the player not panning out and spend your resources on players capable of contributing from the minute they arrive campus. (Note: Contribute doesn't mean star or even start, but be a part of a regular rotation).
I don't see much benefit in paying multiple players not to play, in hopes they might be help in 3-4 years.
...but what the players are being paid is not known and how many 14 and 15 guys sitting on the bench are part of the regular rotation?
Quote from: muwarrior69 on February 09, 2026, 11:00:55 AM...but what the players are being paid is not known and how many 14 and 15 guys sitting on the bench are part of the regular rotation?
There's no rule that says you have to have 14 or 15 scholarship players. I think it's a waste in this environment. MU has a finite pool of resources. Rather than spending some of them on 13th, 14th and 15th players who don't leave the bench and
might contribute three years down the line, invest more in the players who have a role now or are expected to in the very near future.
Using Josh as an example ... if he becomes an Ousmane Barro-type his last two years, is that production worth five years of investment? I'd argue it isn't because you can go find an Ousmane Barro-type every couple years in the portal.
Quote from: BM1090 on February 09, 2026, 12:32:12 AMI'd still like to keep Clark. There's something there. I think he's two years away, but no harm in keeping him as a 3rd center and letting him develop. They just need to upgrade the spots in front of him.
I'd be OK with that assuming they can bring in some skill and experience ahead of him as you said. Clark is what, 7'2"? I don't see it amounting to much but will happily eat crow later on.
Quote from: Markusquette on February 09, 2026, 12:06:08 PMI'd be OK with that assuming they can bring in some skill and experience ahead of him as you said. Clark is what, 7'2"? I don't see it amounting to much but will happily eat crow later on.
Yeah, it could go either way. But he plays 5 MPG when he plays and he typically makes an impact blocking and altering shots. He also had 6 rebounds and and 2 steals against UConn in 13 minutes.
And he clearly doesn't have much of an idea what he's doing out there. Once he actually learns, I could see him being a good center.
Whereas with Hamilton, I just don't see any world he turns into a serviceable player.
Quote from: UWW2MU on February 09, 2026, 10:02:11 AMMan... now you guys are turning on Clark?? The redshirt freshman getting his first game minutes in D1 college basketball this season?? No chance for him to get minutes to get comfortable?
What the hell kind of expectations do you guys have?
And seriously, the talk regarding Sean Jones... dude has been riddled with injuries which sucks for him, the team, and the fans. But to say he's not a BE player? I mean, the kid had some serious upside potential and his injuries prevented us from seeing that potential fulfill. BOO FRIGGEN HOO to you "fans"
The way some of you talk around here and on social media make you look like morons and a-holes who don't appreciate the nuances of the game, the strategy and advantages of Shaka's system (only focusing on the cons), and the reality of the NIL era.
You all need to be mindful of what you wish for and take care that you're not part of the cadre of entitled fans who are going to actually help drive away our highest potential players that we all want to stick around. You think Nigel enjoys seeing social media "fans" who talk absolute garbage about teammates he cares about? Reality check, players and teams READ social media and message board posts.
If you can't help but to be a jackass, then go back to your parents basements and stay off the internet until you learn how to cope with one singular blown up year.
I want MU to embrace the bulls approach
Quote from: Newsdreams on February 09, 2026, 01:12:03 PMI want MU to embrace the bulls approach
I was surprised that I didn't figure it out sooner, but the poster's style of ranting with a sh!tload of insults gives her away. None other than Karoline herself. ;D
Quote from: BM1090 on February 09, 2026, 12:37:28 PMYeah, it could go either way. But he plays 5 MPG when he plays and he typically makes an impact blocking and altering shots. He also had 6 rebounds and and 2 steals against UConn in 13 minutes.
And he clearly doesn't have much of an idea what he's doing out there. Once he actually learns, I could see him being a good center.
Whereas with Hamilton, I just don't see any world he turns into a serviceable player.
His length alone makes it worth cutting into Hamilton's minutes. Granted, Hamilton's minutes are few and far between for good reason now. I wish we got to see a little more of Josh early on. If he can be Kur Kuath type that would be serviceable.
Quote from: Markusquette on February 09, 2026, 01:58:46 PMI wish we got to see a little more of Josh early on. If he can be Kur Kuath type that would be serviceable.
Cannot. Could hope one day he can convert 2FGAs at a similar rate, and can block shots, but so different.
Kur was not a guy who could excel when it comes to defensive rebounds. Josh can put up monster numbers. It's just the... other stuff... that is a concern.
Quote from: UWW2MU on February 09, 2026, 10:02:11 AMMan... now you guys are turning on Clark?? The redshirt freshman getting his first game minutes in D1 college basketball this season?? No chance for him to get minutes to get comfortable?
What the hell kind of expectations do you guys have?
And seriously, the talk regarding Sean Jones... dude has been riddled with injuries which sucks for him, the team, and the fans. But to say he's not a BE player? I mean, the kid had some serious upside potential and his injuries prevented us from seeing that potential fulfill. BOO FRIGGEN HOO to you "fans"
The way some of you talk around here and on social media make you look like morons and a-holes who don't appreciate the nuances of the game, the strategy and advantages of Shaka's system (only focusing on the cons), and the reality of the NIL era.
You all need to be mindful of what you wish for and take care that you're not part of the cadre of entitled fans who are going to actually help drive away our highest potential players that we all want to stick around. You think Nigel enjoys seeing social media "fans" who talk absolute garbage about teammates he cares about? Reality check, players and teams READ social media and message board posts.
If you can't help but to be a jackass, then go back to your parents basements and stay off the internet until you learn how to cope with one singular blown up year.
Amen
Quote from: UWW2MU on February 09, 2026, 10:02:11 AMMan... now you guys are turning on Clark?? The redshirt freshman getting his first game minutes in D1 college basketball this season?? No chance for him to get minutes to get comfortable?
What the hell kind of expectations do you guys have?
And seriously, the talk regarding Sean Jones... dude has been riddled with injuries which sucks for him, the team, and the fans. But to say he's not a BE player? I mean, the kid had some serious upside potential and his injuries prevented us from seeing that potential fulfill. BOO FRIGGEN HOO to you "fans"
The way some of you talk around here and on social media make you look like morons and a-holes who don't appreciate the nuances of the game, the strategy and advantages of Shaka's system (only focusing on the cons), and the reality of the NIL era.
You all need to be mindful of what you wish for and take care that you're not part of the cadre of entitled fans who are going to actually help drive away our highest potential players that we all want to stick around. You think Nigel enjoys seeing social media "fans" who talk absolute garbage about teammates he cares about? Reality check, players and teams READ social media and message board posts.
The fan police have weighed in to let us know how we should think.
Though Nigel James leaving Marquette because people on Scoop aren't nice enough to bad players is a new wrinkle I hadn't thought of. Hopefully he's happier where fans are effusive in their praise for subpar performance. Maybe Kentucky or Kansas will suit him batter.
Quote from: UWW2MU on February 09, 2026, 10:02:11 AMMan... now you guys are turning on Clark?? The redshirt freshman getting his first game minutes in D1 college basketball this season?? No chance for him to get minutes to get comfortable?
What the hell kind of expectations do you guys have?
And seriously, the talk regarding Sean Jones... dude has been riddled with injuries which sucks for him, the team, and the fans. But to say he's not a BE player? I mean, the kid had some serious upside potential and his injuries prevented us from seeing that potential fulfill. BOO FRIGGEN HOO to you "fans"
The way some of you talk around here and on social media make you look like morons and a-holes who don't appreciate the nuances of the game, the strategy and advantages of Shaka's system (only focusing on the cons), and the reality of the NIL era.
You all need to be mindful of what you wish for and take care that you're not part of the cadre of entitled fans who are going to actually help drive away our highest potential players that we all want to stick around. You think Nigel enjoys seeing social media "fans" who talk absolute garbage about teammates he cares about? Reality check, players and teams READ social media and message board posts.
If you can't help but to be a jackass, then go back to your parents basements and stay off the internet until you learn how to cope with one singular blown up year.
Sir this is one of the worst Marquette teams of the last 30 years with probably one of, if not the worst scholarship player to ever put the uniform on. That player is ahead of Josh Clark on the depth chart and Clark can barely put together more than 5 consecutive minutes on the floor. In this day and age, there is no reason to carry a player like that on a high major roster. It's not mean its reality.
As for Sean Jones, he may have had BE potential, but following his injuries, that is long gone. Again not mean, but real.
Quote from: Pakuni on February 09, 2026, 02:09:32 PMThe fan police have weighed in to let us know how we should think.
Though Nigel James leaving Marquette because people on Scoop aren't nice enough to bad players is a new wrinkle I hadn't thought of. Hopefully he's happier where fans are effusive in their praise for subpar performance. Maybe Kentucky or Kansas will suit him batter.
Shaka, players, and others associated with the program have literally stated that the toxicity, trolling, and general a-holeness (my term) on social media has absolutely had a negative affect on the players. Is that hard to believe?
Pakuni, you ARE the fan police.
Quote from: panda on February 09, 2026, 02:11:14 PMSir this is one of the worst Marquette teams of the last 30 years with probably one of, if not the worst scholarship player to ever put the uniform on. That player is ahead of Josh Clark on the depth chart and Clark can barely put together more than 5 consecutive minutes on the floor. In this day and age, there is no reason to carry a player like that on a high major roster. It's not mean its reality.
As for Sean Jones, he may have had BE potential, but following his injuries, that is long gone. Again not mean, but real.
Absolutely, I think this is reasonable. I was referring to people calling for Clark to be cut or "pushed out" without giving him a chance.
Quote from: panda on February 09, 2026, 02:11:14 PMSir this is one of the worst Marquette teams of the last 30 years with probably one of, if not the worst scholarship player to ever put the uniform on. That player is ahead of Josh Clark on the depth chart and Clark can barely put together more than 5 consecutive minutes on the floor. In this day and age, there is no reason to carry a player like that on a high major roster. It's not mean its reality.
As for Sean Jones, he may have had BE potential, but following his injuries, that is long gone. Again not mean, but real.
With 15 spots you can carry a Josh Clark. You can't, however, have two solid role players as your seniors and a complete zero from your junior class.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on February 09, 2026, 02:23:15 PMWith 15 spots you can carry a Josh Clark. You can't, however, have two solid role players as your seniors and a complete zero from your junior class.
Difference of opinion, but I don't see the need to fill every single roster spot every single year.
Conversely, I can see why Shaka likes to do it from a relationship and program building perspective.
Quote from: UWW2MU on February 09, 2026, 02:18:15 PMAbsolutely, I think this is reasonable. I was referring to people calling for Clark to be cut or "pushed out" without giving him a chance.
So which is reasonable? The part about Jones' injury history, Clark not being able to get minutes over Hamilton, or both?
Given Shaka's poor track record with project bigs at MU thus far, and no interest from other programs, I find it reasonable to wonder about Clark. Would love to see him show some flashes well before year 3 or 4 in the program.
Quote from: UWW2MU on February 09, 2026, 02:13:43 PMShaka, players, and others associated with the program have literally stated that the toxicity, trolling, and general a-holeness (my term) on social media has absolutely had a negative affect on the players. Is that hard to believe?
No, but that's not what you said.
You suggested that what fans say here might "drive away" high-potential players we want to stay, and specifically cited Nigel as an example.
I agree that players should stay away from social media, both the criticism and (as Saban would say) the rat poison. But fans shouldn't avoid legitimate criticism of players or the program out of fear that feelings might get hurt.
Also, if you think Marquette fans are unusually or uniquely toxic, troll-ish a--holes, you should spend time on some other team's message boards. We're kittens compared to many.
LMFAO. And check your inbox.
Quote from: UWW2MU on February 09, 2026, 02:13:43 PMShaka, players, and others associated with the program have literally stated that the toxicity, trolling, and general a-holeness (my term) on social media has absolutely had a negative affect on the players. Is that hard to believe?
NJ appears to be playing fine with no adverse affects from social media I would add even RP as of late. If social media had that affect Jackie Robinson would have never made it in baseball. In fact he had it worse. He had it in his face on and off the field.
Quote from: 1SE on February 09, 2026, 10:26:54 AMSample size way too small, but Josh's rebounding numbers are ELITE. that's why it would be great to see how they hold up in some extended run - certainly the rest of game isn't any WORSE than Caedins - why he doesn't get all those minutes I can't understand...
Fair. If Josh could maintain his OR%, DR%, and BLK% over a larger sample size, and improve to shooting 65% at the rim, he could be a good role player.
Look several posts back on this page.
Quote from: Pakuni on February 09, 2026, 02:38:08 PMNo, but that's not what you said.
You suggested that what fans say here might "drive away" high-potential players we want to stay, and specifically cited Nigel as an example.
I agree that players should stay away from social media, both the criticism and (as Saban would say) the rat poison. But fans shouldn't avoid legitimate criticism of players or the program out of fear that feelings might get hurt.
Also, if you think Marquette fans are unusually or uniquely toxic, troll-ish a--holes, you should spend time on some other team's message boards. We're kittens compared to many.
This is very true. I will not even try to prove it since the evidence is there in spades for anyone to see.
If any recruit finds the MU fan boards tough, they could never make it at a blue blood, or any top 40 program. You know who as nice fan boards; DePaul. When you suck the passionate, team supporting and ticket buying fans out of the equation, you get very nice people who give a ribbon to players who just play.
Quote from: Pakuni on February 09, 2026, 02:38:08 PMNo, but that's not what you said.
You suggested that what fans say here might "drive away" high-potential players we want to stay, and specifically cited Nigel as an example.
I agree that players should stay away from social media, both the criticism and (as Saban would say) the rat poison. But fans shouldn't avoid legitimate criticism of players or the program out of fear that feelings might get hurt.
Also, if you think Marquette fans are unusually or uniquely toxic, troll-ish a--holes, you should spend time on some other team's message boards. We're kittens compared to many.
Let's just put it this way... in sports, some fanbases think it's ok to boo their team and players, others do not. For example, Packers fans vs Eagles fans. Both have high standards for outcomes, but how those fan bases support their teams are vastly different. Maybe there's no right or wrong in that... but I know what my preference is.
Quote from: tower912 on February 09, 2026, 03:00:03 PMLook several posts back on this page.
Starting to think you don't know what fan police means.
Maybe this will help.
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/fanpol
Starting to think we see these things from completely different perspectives. Ah, well.
Quote from: UWW2MU on February 09, 2026, 03:06:19 PMLet's just put it this way... in sports, some fanbases think it's ok to boo their team and players, others do not. For example, Packers fans vs Eagles fans. Both have high standards for outcomes, but how those fan bases support their teams are vastly different. Maybe there's no right or wrong in that... but I know what my preference is.
I believe MU fans boards, like Scoop, are a net positive for recruits to read compared to other team boards. I think players like to see an engaged and passionate fan base. For example, Nova's board can get very ugly but they seem to be a well respected program. Just last season I read a heated post about recruits being crazy to want to play for Tommy Lloyd.
I don't agree with everything here, but on balance MU fans are pretty darn good.
Quote from: WhiteTrash on February 09, 2026, 03:29:17 PMI believe MU fans boards, like Scoop, are a net positive for recruits to read compared to other team boards. I think players like to see an engaged and passionate fan base. For example, Nova's board can get very ugly but they seem to be a well respected program. Just last season I read a heated post about recruits being crazy to want to play for Tommy Lloyd.
I don't agree with everything here, but on balance MU fans are pretty darn good.
Hmm.... maybe I could agree to that to some degree, but have you seen the crap on X and other social media?
*quick edit: I didn't say "crap"
Quote from: UWW2MU on February 09, 2026, 02:13:43 PMShaka, players, and others associated with the program have literally stated that the toxicity, trolling, and general a-holeness (my term) on social media has absolutely had a negative affect on the players. Is that hard to believe?
Unfortunately, that comes with the territory these days. If they want to go to a place where that stuff isn't going to occur, there are plenty of places that have 600 fans in the stands and no NIL money to support the program.
But hey, at least they won't get their feelings hurt.
Quote from: UWW2MU on February 09, 2026, 02:13:43 PMShaka, players, and others associated with the program have literally stated that the toxicity, trolling, and general a-holeness (my term) on social media has absolutely had a negative affect on the players. Is that hard to believe?
Hopefully the people who showed up for NMD and other home games and cheered them on will remind them that most fans are not A holes. The support this team has had at home has been incredible given the losing. Hopefully that is what they pay attention to more than social media posts.
Sultan, you beat me to it.
Quote from: UWW2MU on February 09, 2026, 03:06:19 PMLet's just put it this way... in sports, some fanbases think it's ok to boo their team and players, others do not. For example, Packers fans vs Eagles fans. Both have high standards for outcomes, but how those fan bases support their teams are vastly different. Maybe there's no right or wrong in that... but I know what my preference is.
LOL, you don't think Packer fans boo their team???
Quote from: panda on February 09, 2026, 02:27:13 PMDifference of opinion, but I don't see the need to fill every single roster spot every single year.
Conversely, I can see why Shaka likes to do it from a relationship and program building perspective.
I'm not saying you have to fill every spot. You can still carry a Clark, a redshirt or two, and leave one scholarship open to maintain flexibility.
That still gives you an active roster of 10-11 guys, which is more than enough.
Quote from: The Sultan on February 09, 2026, 03:49:45 PMLOL, you don't think Packer fans boo their team???
What, are you the Sultan of semantics or something??
Seriously though, you have to recognize there's a difference in those fanbases. Let's not get caught up in "gotcha!" details here, we both know it's not the same.
Quote from: UWW2MU on February 09, 2026, 04:10:30 PMWhat, are you the Sultan of semantics or something??
Seriously though, you have to recognize there's a difference in those fanbases. Let's not get caught up in "gotcha!" details here, we both know it's not the same.
Ah. You make an inaccurate statement and are now blaming it on "semantics." ::) ::) ::)
Anyway, Marquette's fanbase is fine. Way better than many of the other's around college basketball. As I said, if they want to play at a place that's completely free of online "toxicity," I'm sure a place like Eastern Illinois would take them in.
Otherwise this is life as a professional athlete at a high D1 school.
Quote from: The Sultan on February 09, 2026, 04:17:07 PMAh. You make an inaccurate statement and are now blaming it on "semantics." ::) ::) ::)
Anyway, Marquette's fanbase is fine. Way better than many of the other's around college basketball. As I said, if they want to play at a place that's completely free of online "toxicity," I'm sure a place like Eastern Illinois would take them in.
Otherwise this is life as a professional athlete at a high D1 school.
It's just as well that I was not good enough to be on a bball team. My feelings would have been very hurt hearing the same chant from the crowd over and over and over again-
Aiiirr ball,
aiiirr ball,
aiiirr ball.
You design a zone defense around Clark and don't let him leave the restricted area....
There are several zones that could be employed....
On offense he has one play....Pick and dunk roll if it is there....
Creighton when they have a big center run this play 30 times a game.....As a first option....
Quote from: burger on February 09, 2026, 07:00:26 PMYou design a zone defense around Clark and don't let him leave the restricted area....
There are several zones that could be employed....
On offense he has one play....Pick and dunk roll if it is there....
Creighton when they have a big center run this play 30 times a game.....As a first option....
Oy...
Quote from: The Sultan on February 09, 2026, 04:17:07 PMAh. You make an inaccurate statement and are now blaming it on "semantics." ::) ::) ::)
Anyway, Marquette's fanbase is fine. Way better than many of the other's around college basketball. As I said, if they want to play at a place that's completely free of online "toxicity," I'm sure a place like Eastern Illinois would take them in.
Otherwise this is life as a professional athlete at a high D1 school.
It wasn't inaccurate... if you are familiar with the fanbases you'd know what I meant. I didn't mean it in as absolute, but how fans treat the team and players is vastly different.
Same in college bball. Some fanbases are just different, and so are individual fans. Some may comment on a player saying "He's weak on the help coverage and lacks court vision to find the open man" while another may say "THIS GUY IS THE WORST PLAYER AND SHOULD NOT BE ON A BE TEAM!!! HE COULDN'T FIND HIS MAN IF THE GUY WAS STANDING IN FRONT OF HIM WASTE A SIGN!!!!!1111ONEONEONE"
But you know what, you do you. If you think players getting paid is some sort of excuse to trash them, then go for it I guess.
Quote from: UWW2MU on February 10, 2026, 09:29:35 AMIt wasn't inaccurate... if you are familiar with the fanbases you'd know what I meant. I didn't mean it in as absolute, but how fans treat the team and players is vastly different.
Same in college bball. Some fanbases are just different, and so are individual fans. Some may comment on a player saying "He's weak on the help coverage and lacks court vision to find the open man" while another may say "THIS GUY IS THE WORST PLAYER AND SHOULD NOT BE ON A BE TEAM!!! HE COULDN'T FIND HIS MAN IF THE GUY WAS STANDING IN FRONT OF HIM WASTE A SIGN!!!!!1111ONEONEONE"
But you know what, you do you. If you think players getting paid is some sort of excuse to trash them, then go for it I guess.
18-23yr olds are getting paid more per year than ill likely ever touch. They (plus Shaka) are the custodians of a proud tradition that's the main marketing tool for school spirit, fun, and recognition. If they can't take the heat for not performing then they should move on.
Quote from: UWW2MU on February 10, 2026, 09:29:35 AMIt wasn't inaccurate... if you are familiar with the fanbases you'd know what I meant. I didn't mean it in as absolute, but how fans treat the team and players is vastly different.
Same in college bball. Some fanbases are just different, and so are individual fans. Some may comment on a player saying "He's weak on the help coverage and lacks court vision to find the open man" while another may say "THIS GUY IS THE WORST PLAYER AND SHOULD NOT BE ON A BE TEAM!!! HE COULDN'T FIND HIS MAN IF THE GUY WAS STANDING IN FRONT OF HIM WASTE A SIGN!!!!!1111ONEONEONE"
But you know what, you do you. If you think players getting paid is some sort of excuse to trash them, then go for it I guess.
Again, it would do you a world of good to have the most basic of reading comprehension. I never once said, nor even implied, that getting paid is an excuse to trash them. What I am saying is that this is the world they are in right now. If they want to go to a place where no one is mean to them, those places exist as well.
Quote from: Galway Eagle on February 10, 2026, 09:36:32 AM18-23yr olds are getting paid more per year than ill likely ever touch. They (plus Shaka) are the custodians of a proud tradition that's the main marketing tool for school spirit, fun, and recognition. If they can't take the heat for not performing then they should move on.
Yep.
Quote from: UWW2MU on February 10, 2026, 09:29:35 AMIt wasn't inaccurate... if you are familiar with the fanbases you'd know what I meant. I didn't mean it in as absolute, but how fans treat the team and players is vastly different.
Same in college bball. Some fanbases are just different, and so are individual fans. Some may comment on a player saying "He's weak on the help coverage and lacks court vision to find the open man" while another may say "THIS GUY IS THE WORST PLAYER AND SHOULD NOT BE ON A BE TEAM!!! HE COULDN'T FIND HIS MAN IF THE GUY WAS STANDING IN FRONT OF HIM WASTE A SIGN!!!!!1111ONEONEONE"
But you know what, you do you. If you think players getting paid is some sort of excuse to trash them, then go for it I guess.
Most here are not trashing anybody, just pointing out the obvious that anyone can see. Also, it is not just the players.
When you are cashing 5,6 and 7 digit checks.....It comes with the territory....
Quote from: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on February 09, 2026, 02:59:35 PMFair. If Josh could maintain his OR%, DR%, and BLK% over a larger sample size, and improve to shooting 65% at the rim, he could be a good role player.
I mean let's see right? What do we possibly have to lose?
Quote from: 1SE on February 10, 2026, 11:19:50 AMI mean let's see right? What do we possibly have to lose?
"Terrible idea. It might cause Caedin Hamilton to take his talents elsewhere." -- GoldenEagles03, probably
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on February 10, 2026, 12:30:14 PM"Terrible idea. It might cause Caedin Hamilton to take his talents elsewhere." -- GoldenEagles03, probably
It's really the only remaining roster question mark for me.
Keep: Nigel, AS, Rolls, MP, Sheek, Nash, DO, Militec
Thanks for everything and best of luck: Sean, Caedin, Tre
???: Josh
I guess the point is "there's no harm" in carrying Josh if the TFEABOLs leave, but if he's not going to contribute next year free up.his 50k? 100k? for the transfer pot.
But I'd really like to see more because what we have seen suggests to me he could soak up 10-15 minutes of positive contribution (in certain sets/matchups) (eat the glass, tip a few misses back in, be a lane presence on D) on a tourney bound team.
Quote from: 1SE on February 10, 2026, 12:44:51 PMBut I'd really like to see more because what we have seen suggests to me he could soak up 10-15 minutes of positive contribution (in certain sets/matchups) (eat the glass, tip a few misses back in, be a lane presence on D) on a tourney bound team.
This is where I am on Josh. I'm so ready to see poor performers leave, but like you, I think he just might work out. He hasn't been alone near the basket and air balled it over the hoop like someone did. ::)
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on February 10, 2026, 01:37:31 PMThis is where I am on Josh. I'm so ready to see poor performers leave, but like you, I think he just might work out. He hasn't been alone near the basket and air balled it over the hoop like someone did. ::)
He looked so gassed after about 2 minutes of up and down on Saturday. He very clearly disrupted Butler in the paint though. Shaka pulled him to the side and gave him a nice little pat on the chest for his efforts on his way off the court in the 2nd half.
Whether the roster is 13 like it was in the past or 15 like it is now, there's always room for a 7+ footer like Josh. As long as we can find a way to get rid of 2 of Sean, Tre, and Caedin we might be alright depending on who we bring in.
Having Josh, even if it's for like 2 or 3 minutes per half could really change the pace defensively if we need a momentum shifter.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on February 10, 2026, 01:37:31 PMThis is where I am on Josh. I'm so ready to see poor performers leave, but like you, I think he just might work out. He hasn't been alone near the basket and air balled it over the hoop like someone did. ::)
Josh may or may not turn out to be a decent player. But he is 60% for dunks on the year. Is that good?
Of the random 136 7'+ guys in the country that have attempted at least one dunk, 126 of them have made better than 60%.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on February 10, 2026, 02:03:34 PMJosh may or may not turn out to be a decent player. But he is 60% for dunks on the year. Is that good?
Works for me. For a backup.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on February 10, 2026, 02:03:34 PMJosh may or may not turn out to be a decent player. But he is 60% for dunks on the year. Is that good?
Of the random 136 7'+ guys in the country that have attempted at least one dunk, 126 of them have made better than 60%.
60% for dunks, that is nothing.
Michael Phillips is 14 for 45 on the year in field goal attempts. He is 14 for 35 from three. That means he has not made a layup, a mid size offensive rebound pick up or a dunk. Only a three point shot. Almost impossible.
Plus with having a decent three point percentage, he is 5 for 14 from the free throw line. Makes no sense.
Quote from: nyg on February 10, 2026, 02:36:25 PM60% for dunks, that is nothing.
Oh, I agree. Just refuting that it's possible his offense *is* worse than someone that "air balled it over the hoop". We don't really know yet.
I also agree on the craziness of MPII's stats.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on February 10, 2026, 02:41:38 PMOh, I agree. Just refuting that it's possible his offense *is* worse than someone that "air balled it over the hoop". We don't really know yet.
I also agree on the craziness of MPII's stats.
Meant nothing compared to Phillip's percentages.
Josh a project, keep him one more year and see if he develops anything besides being tall.
Quote from: nyg on February 10, 2026, 02:48:37 PMMeant nothing compared to Phillip's percentages.
40% on 3s is best on the team. 0% on 2s is worst on the team. And MPII is 0-2 on dunks. Just a very weird stat line.
A high schooler playing college ball. It is a journey.
If nothing else I like Josh on the scout team to help prep for opponents' looong size at center. If he sees just a bit more natural progression, he gives us another, unique look to throw out there in certain games/situations.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on February 10, 2026, 02:03:34 PMJosh may or may not turn out to be a decent player. But he is 60% for dunks on the year. Is that good?
Of the random 136 7'+ guys in the country that have attempted at least one dunk, 126 of them have made better than 60%.
I have to imagine that percentage is impacted by some of the really poor lob attempts he's had no chance to do anything with.
Josh has another offseason to work on strength and conditioning. Add a one-year starter at C from the portal plus Sheek and I'm more than fine with Josh as the #3 center.
Josh isn't going anywhere.
Quote from: We R Final Four on February 10, 2026, 04:12:12 PMJosh isn't going anywhere.
I don't think anyone (including myself)...at least in the past couple pages is saying he *should* go anywhere.
Though, his performances so far isn't making me anxious if he were to leave.
Quote from: The Sultan on February 09, 2026, 07:46:56 AMPeople probably need to stop thinking there are going to be mass departures. I would guess one additional...maybe two. But the bulk of next year's team is already here or committed.
I think it will be 2-3.
Quote from: brewcity77 on February 10, 2026, 04:44:00 PMI think it will be 2-3.
Yep. 2 more for sure, maybe a 3rd.
Come on now guys and Dolls, this, we are family team, culture club team trusting each other team, is going to win the Big East tournament and punch a ticket to the dance.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on February 10, 2026, 04:35:09 PMI don't think anyone (including myself)...at least in the past couple pages is saying he *should* go anywhere.
Though, his performances so far isn't making me anxious if he were to leave.
He is a work in progress. He is a very raw 7'1". Next year....hopefully a few more minutes......next year some more. Surprised you would expect much from him this year.
Quote from: We R Final Four on February 10, 2026, 06:30:42 PMHe is a work in progress. He is a very raw 7'1". Next year....hopefully a few more minutes......next year some more. Surprised you would expect much from him this year.
I didn't expect much. As a redshirt he's shown very little with only Caedin standing in his way.
Quote from: burger on February 10, 2026, 10:45:57 AMWhen you are cashing 5,6 and 7 digit checks.....It comes with the territory....
Wild assumptions