This team misses Mitchell. A lot. Who are your 5 best perimeter defenders in the history of MU hoops? Ty. It drives me crazy we cant stop the ball.
Wade was DPOY in CUSA so he has to be 1.
Put Mandy Johnson in there.
Quote from: MuggsyB on February 04, 2026, 06:51:22 PMBut that was CUSA.
I meant 1 of the 5, not necessarily 1 overall just to be clear.
He's gotta be on there.
Dominic James and Michael Wilson
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 04, 2026, 07:01:46 PMI meant 1 of the 5, not necessarily 1 overall just to be clear.
He's gotta be on there.
I graduated in "04 and saw every Wade game. He may be top 5, but it took him some time. He also had to conserve some energy as our #1 weapon on the offensive end.
Quote from: Zog from Margo on February 04, 2026, 07:12:47 PMDominic James and Michael Wilson
Dominic certainly has to be considered.
I would think Jae has to be there.
Defense is what got Jimmy to the NBA, his offense is what kept him around this long, but I'd say he's gotta be up there.
So versatile.
Yup JFB
Jimmy
Stevie
Rel
Jae
Wade
Wes Matthews and Tony Miller.
Dean Meminger and Earl Tatum.
Rivers, McNeal, Wade, Stevie, Wes
In no particular order
Quote from: MuggsyB on February 04, 2026, 06:51:22 PMBut that was CUSA.
Four top 36 Kenpom teams and three more in the top 80. The bottom of the conference was always bad but the top was good. Lots of quality.
And Wade would have translated to any conference.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 04, 2026, 07:33:55 PMDefense is what got Jimmy to the NBA, his offense is what kept him around this long, but I'd say he's gotta be up there.
So versatile.
Quote from: Newsdreams on February 04, 2026, 07:34:33 PMYup JFB
Never forget why, his crappy 1:1 D let Quincy pondexter hit the go ahead iso in the 2010 tournament completing the most WTF collapse I've seen us have in a tournament.
He gave an interview in 2010 saying he felt he let Acker, Cubi, and Zar down by that and worked on his D all summer
Quote from: Galway Eagle on February 05, 2026, 10:33:54 AMNever forget why, his crappy 1:1 D let Quincy pondexter hit the go ahead iso in the 2010 tournament completing the most WTF collapse I've seen us have in a tournament.
He gave an interview in 2010 saying he felt he let Acker, Cubi, and Zar down by that and worked on his D all summer
More than made up for it the next year by containing Tu Holloway.
Quote from: The Sultan on February 05, 2026, 10:47:03 AMMore than made up for it the next year by containing Tu Holloway.
Zipped him up.
Butch Lee was an outstanding defender. Quickest hands on the planet.
Marcus Washington, when his knee wasn't flaring up, was an excellent defender.
Mandy Johnson, Dominic James, West Matthews, Jerel McNeal, Michael Wilson, Dean Meminger.
Mandy was great unless he was guarding David Rivers. I thought Michael Wilson was a better defender. I actually thought Wes and Dominic were better defenders than McNeal. I have not seen many players as effective as James at staying in front of someone full court. Wes could cover a lot of positions—almost like OMax. McNeal was great in the passing lanes. Tony Miller was a very good defender even though not nearly as athletic as some mentioned. Mitchell was awfully good too. Too hard for me to choose. MU has been blessed with lots of great players.
Derrick Wilson
*ducks*
Can't believe nobody's mentioned Andrew Rowsey
Quote from: Galway Eagle on February 05, 2026, 11:30:37 AMCan't believe nobody's mentioned Andrew Rowsey
Nice. Very nice.
I remember one time in particular (Rowsey was so famous for his defensive efforts, it's hard to pick just one) that Rowsey screwed up and a scooper asked something along the lines of "OK. which scooper forgot to get a check to Rowsey?". Chick piped in and said it was her, adding something like "I put it in his defensive notebook".
Quote from: Galway Eagle on February 05, 2026, 11:30:37 AMCan't believe nobody's mentioned Andrew Rowsey
Or Reinhardt
Or Joey
Or Wardle
Or Davante
Or Deonte
Quote from: tower912 on February 05, 2026, 11:47:07 AMOr Reinhardt
Or Joey
Or Wardle
Or Davante
Or Deonte
Or Anglavar—-KO putting a chair on the floor and asking Anglavar to defend it.
Vander Blue belongs in the conversation imo.
Loved watching him play defense and win the team extra possessions.
Insane hustle/motor and passion
Jimmy, Jerel, Stevie, D James, O Max
Hon Mentions: D Wilson, Jamil
Dominic James was by far the best perimeter defender of the Amigos. Not remotely close, IMO.
Yes, Jerel got the Big East DPOY award, but that's because he was good at gambling on steals. It's a reason why DPOY awards often don't go to the best defenders but the guys with the best defensive counting stats. For instance, Oso was a better defender than Kalkbrenner, but didn't post the numbers Kalk did so didn't get the same credit.
McNeal was a fine defender, but not nearly as good compared to the lockdown ability of James.
Dominic James, Jimmy Butler, Stevie Mitchell, Oso Ighodaro, and Vander Blue would be my list of the last 20 years. Honorable Mention to Sacar Anim, who was a very good defender but didn't get the recognition due to Wojo's overall weak defense and a lack of defensive counting stats (largely system based).
Michael Wilson, Tony Miller, DJ are the first 3 that come to mind.
Stevie certainly in the conversation
I cannot believe that no one mentioned Ramsey.