This team is going to be exponentially better with Chase & Ben moving on. I think we have a decent foundation with Nigel, RP, Adrien, and DO & MP. Damarius is playing much better on the defensive end. You add our newcomers and 2 quality portal guys, including a badass big. This could bring dividends to MU and a quicker turnaround than most project.
Ben and Chase have limitations. I think they are trying to play past their limitations.
It is a little harsh, but we'd be even worse without both of them this year.
It's the reality we have.
Quote from: NCMUFan on January 31, 2026, 01:00:38 PMBen and Chase have limitations. I think they are trying to play past their limitations.
I think Ben has been pretty good, but Chase is definitely trying to do too much and it's hurting the team.
I don't agree about Ben. However, I would expect Chase to have some pride. I mean he wants to play in the league, right? For someone who I never questioned his effort prior to this year, it has fallen off a cliff. He is pressing, at first I got it as the senior leader, now, it's just selfishness.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on January 31, 2026, 01:02:19 PMIt is a little harsh, but we'd be even worse without both of them this year.
It's the reality we have.
Yes..but the truth is both guys have regressed.
Quote from: 21Jumpstreet on January 31, 2026, 01:05:04 PMI don't agree about Ben. However, I would expect Chase to have some pride. I mean he wants to play in the league, right? For someone who I never questioned his effort prior to this year, it has fallen off a cliff. He is pressing, at first I got it as the senior leader, now, it's just selfishness.
He totally goes through the motions for major stretches. And I simply do not understand why he's ever playing iso ball, especially down the stretch.
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 31, 2026, 01:05:37 PMYes..but the truth is both guys have regressed.
Parham seems to be finally playing to expectations, but everyone (frosh excluded) have regressed.
Nigel had a tough game today from a decision making standpoint. But he'll learn. What continues to boggle my mind is the extended high hedge by Ben, and our help when he's isolated up top. I don't get it. Even when the trap is for an eternity it's a weak ass trap. Makes zero sense, and that's on Shaka.
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 31, 2026, 01:05:37 PMYes..but the truth is both guys have regressed.
His 3 point shooting has regressed dramatically which has an oversized impact on his value as a basketball player but his defense and driving ability have improved. His ball handling and his hands have stayed the same, meaning not very good.
Ben Gold, that is.
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 31, 2026, 01:05:37 PMYes..but the truth is both guys have regressed.
Ross has. Ben is MU's best interior defender and it's not really close. Parham blocks shots but gets shoved around and loses track of people. Hamilton and Clark are pretty clueless.
Chase Ross is the most athletic bad player MU has ever had. Wally was better. Chase is now the worst player on the court except when Hamilton plays.
Gold in BE play: 8 for 54 from three, 15%. That really hurts. Waiting for injury excuse as usual.
Ross in BE play has regressed from pre conference play, where he was really good. Who knows why.
But not all Gold's fault, he has no backups and has been playing out of position for two years. That's on Shaka for choosing the development aspect on two unheralded recruits, who even redshirted to develop. Today, Hamilton and Clark played 15 minutes and had zero points, zero rebounds, zero blocks, zero assists. Think about that......, then again it has been discussed in nauseam and will be.
Go to boxscore and look at MU bench scoring, etc to Seton Hall bench.
I want to see Owens and Phillips more to see what they have. Good luck to Shaka and next years roster construction, should be interesting.
Believe that is 0 for 11 on the road?
They have both been disappointing...
And Ross has been terrible for the most part. Not only is he not an Alpha, he's not even a Beta.
On a top tier team he should be the 6th man.
But ... Muggs ... they will NOT be better next year w / out going to the portal.
Unless you think Sheek ( thin as a blade of grass ) is going to save them? He won't
Ross is a 5th or 6th guy on a good team. Just not much of a bag or bucket getting ability. Gold is also a 5th or 6th guy. They were just in the wrong roles due to RGV. Water is starting to reach its level and they are sliding back to where they belong.
At this point of the season, the crapty play of all big east first teamer Chase Ross has over taken the dumbness of Shaka playing Hamilton so much as the big disappointment of the season.
young team vs an experienced tough defense and took them to the wire in their arena
not a bad effort
Quote from: Mu8891 on January 31, 2026, 01:20:18 PMThey have both been disappointing...
And Ross has been terrible for the most part. Not only is he not an Alpha, he's not even a Beta.
On a top tier team he should be the 6th man.
But ... Muggs ... they will NOT be better next year w / out going to the portal.
Unless you think Sheek ( thin as a blade of grass ) is going to save them? He won't
They will definitely be better even with no portal additions (assuming no key exits). But they will not be good enough without portal additions.
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 31, 2026, 01:09:43 PMNigel had a tough game today from a decision making standpoint. But he'll learn. What continues to boggle my mind is the extended high hedge by Ben, and our help when he's isolated up top. I don't get it. Even when the trap is for an eternity it's a weak ass trap. Makes zero sense, and that's on Shaka.
Yup Ben is doing what he is told to do, and shot 42.9% from 3.
Quote from: Spaniel with a Short Tail on January 31, 2026, 01:11:47 PMHis 3 point shooting has regressed dramatically which has an oversized impact on his value as a basketball player but his defense and driving ability have improved. His ball handling and his hands have stayed the same, meaning not very good.
Ben Gold, that is.
I think he is still leading the Big East in 2 pt shooting percentage. I know he was a couple of games ago.
Excuse my ignorance Scoopers, but what exactly is the explanation for the feeble/hard hedge 35 feet from the rim? It's literally as effective as trying to trap an octopus. I don't get it at all.
As for RP's defense? I think it was rough down the stretch and he's struggled a lot. That said he's improved imo. He seemed a bit gassed to me. As a side note, I'd like to see MP get a few more mins.
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 31, 2026, 01:35:42 PMExcuse my ignorance Scoopers, but what exactly is the explanation for the feeble/hard hedge 35 feet from the rim? And it's literally as effective as trying to trap an octopus. I don't get it at all.
As for RP's defense? I think was tough down the stretch and has struggled a lot, but he's improved imo. He seemed a bit gassed to me. As a side note, I'd like to see MP get a few more mins.
That hedge is to disrupt ball handler, it has been done on basketball for o while now, just have to have proper big, OSO like, plus need to have guys who know how to rotate in case big is late. The rotation on D for this team in general is absolutely horrendous.
This year bug...next year and with some portal shopping, windshield.
Quote from: Newsdreams on January 31, 2026, 01:39:59 PMThat hedge is to disrupt ball handler, it has been done on basketball for o while now, just have to have proper big, OSO like, plus need to have guys who know how to rotate in case big is late. The rotation on D for this team in general is absolutely horrendous.
So, if you don't have the personnel, shouldn't you abandon it? Correct, our help D is historically putrid. And btw the high hedge isn't disrupting the ball handler at all. I think the whole thing is a complete disaster.
Quote from: Mu8891 on January 31, 2026, 01:20:18 PMThey have both been disappointing...
And Ross has been terrible for the most part. Not only is he not an Alpha, he's not even a Beta.
On a top tier team he should be the 6th man.
But ... Muggs ... they will NOT be better next year w / out going to the portal.
Unless you think Sheek ( thin as a blade of grass ) is going to save them? He won't
I don't really disagree with you.
The rotation on D has been better in spurts and was not bad in the first half. It needs to be better and more consistent.
Less subbing in second half might have led to being more tired. I don't know.
A little harsh on Ross here. I agree he has been a huge disappointment this year especially when the opponents got tougher. He is a good 3rd or 4th option which is what he has become. For RGV to have worked he needed to be an alpha. He never had the belief in himself that he was. Shaka expected that growth in him and got burned.
Gold needed to step up as well and didn't. Plays out of position and Shaka needed to use him more down low offensively throughout his 4 years here.
All of this is on Shaka. He knew what he had. Mismanaged the roster and coaching and expectations of some of his players.
Let's hope he gets that fixed for next year.
I suppose I'm biased but I truly feel we threw this game away.
Feel Marquette played very well under Shaka his first four years. But this year Shaka has not just been bad he has been very bad.
Quote from: WarriorFan on January 31, 2026, 01:16:28 PMChase Ross is the most athletic bad player MU has ever had. Wally was better. Chase is now the worst player on the court except when Hamilton plays.
So often he plays out of control. I would not expect that from a senior.
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 31, 2026, 01:58:49 PMI suppose I'm biased but I truly feel we threw this game away.
If you would have told me MU would be 11-19 from 3, I would have asked how much did we win by.
Quote from: 79Warrior on January 31, 2026, 02:22:49 PMSo often he plays out of control. I would not expect that from a senior.
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He's extremely ineffective as an iso player. I'm not sure why he's trying to make plays off the dribble to close games.
Quote from: tower912 on January 31, 2026, 01:34:22 PMI think he is still leading the Big East in 2 pt shooting percentage. I know he was a couple of games ago.
Yeah, great, well he's 19% (9/47) from three in Big East play and that was actually improved after today. He was sitting at 15% entering today.
It's Shaka's fault for being so loyal, but what is he supposed to do in-game?
This team sucks. We don't have a post presence and our Seniors have no idea how to impact a game. After the Seniors we have 1 Junior that quit, 1 that hasn't played in a month, and another that gets 0 minutes when healthy.
A roster construction malpractice, but what is he honestly supposed to do about it now? It is what it is until he has a chance to fix it in April. If he chooses again not to fix it, it'll be see ya later.
Normally I'm sad to see the seniors leave but this year will be an exception. Appreciate their efforts and I'll put more blame on the coach for the malpractice assembling this roster.
Quote from: tower912 on January 31, 2026, 01:34:22 PMI think he is still leading the Big East in 2 pt shooting percentage. I know he was a couple of games ago.
He was, but in last two games, he has taken 13 shots, 11 three attempts. He is around 70% on year for taken threes on field goal attempts. If MU had recruited a big to play the middle, then Gold could have played outside more and maybe that would have helped him.
Quote from: nyg on January 31, 2026, 02:43:29 PMHe was, but in last two games, he has taken 13 shots, 11 three attempts. He is around 70% on year for taken threes on field goal attempts. If MU had recruited a big to play the middle, then Gold could have played outside more and maybe that would have helped him.
Doubtful. He's had PLENTY of good looks all season. It's not like defenses have to or are giving any special attention to him from anywhere on the court, especially beyond the arc. It's totally on Ben his horrendous shooting performance.
Agree Muggsy and also agree we would be worse without them this year since they are all we have. They have regressed although Ben made 3 triples this game but Ben had just 2 rebounds. Chase had 1 REBOUND in 36 minutes which is not sticking his nose in there and not fighting.
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 31, 2026, 01:09:43 PMNigel had a tough game today from a decision making standpoint. But he'll learn. What continues to boggle my mind is the extended high hedge by Ben, and our help when he's isolated up top. I don't get it. Even when the trap is for an eternity it's a weak ass trap. Makes zero sense, and that's on Shaka.
There is a ton of stuff on Shaka. This team has been coached piss poorly.
This may be harsh but speaking of harsh feel Marquette's NET Kenpom and Record would be better without although not their fault and love them Sean and Caedin playing, no offense and no pun intended. And Marquette would be better of course it has been said many times by many with the addition of Transfers.
Quote from: Markusquette on January 31, 2026, 02:41:53 PMNormally I'm sad to see the seniors leave but this year will be an exception. Appreciate their efforts and I'll put more blame on the coach for the malpractice assembling this roster.
Wait until next year!
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 31, 2026, 01:45:54 PMSo, if you don't have the personnel, shouldn't you abandon it? Correct, our help D is historically putrid. And btw the high hedge isn't disrupting the ball handler at all. I think the whole thing is a complete disaster.
Correct, I don't understand why it keeps on being done, gets Ben in a really bad position. He has to also spend a lot of energy.
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 31, 2026, 01:45:54 PMSo, if you don't have the personnel, shouldn't you abandon it? Correct, our help D is historically putrid. And btw the high hedge isn't disrupting the ball handler at all. I think the whole thing is a complete disaster.
Sorry had game on delay and didn't see this discussion or.wouldnt haven't started other topic. But I also.just cannot understand this - those two.posessions lost.us the game. Does Shaka actually think.Ben can be effective there or are they just not listening to Shaka? Neither answer is great.
Ben's tries.hard and seems like a nice kid, but he brings very limited thing to the team 2 rebounds in, what, 35 minutes from a 5 isn't great...
Quote from: rocky_warrior on January 31, 2026, 01:02:19 PMIt is a little harsh, but we'd be even worse without both of them this year.
It's the reality we have.
This is definitely true this year. But next year they should be easily replaced through the portal. Easily two of the biggest reasons for our poor record. But need them for functional depth at this point. They are better than Tre and Caedin.
Referring to our 2 seniors as "functional depth" does explain what we are dealing with this year.
On this team, taking out Ben and Chase and you end up giving max minutes to Tre, Caedin, and Josh.
Genius.
As far as having a big switch and end up on the perimeter, it happened under Buzz. It happened under Wojo. It happened the first 4 years under Shaka. It is frequently the goal of the offense to force switches and create mismatches.
When does the federal investigation start on Ross? That's the only plausible explanation for his fall off after an incredible start this season.
While I'm happy about the progress the underclassmen have show these last few weeks, it does make me wonder where we'd be right now if the upperclassmen had just been able to weather the storm the first half of the season. Going 3-3 in the non buy games in the non conference was certainly not a tall task, instead 0-6. Could've gone into today's game at 4-4, instead 2-8.
Ross was a first team preseason Big East player, he won't even be third team. Ben has tossed up bricks at a rate even he hasn't shown before, and the third year guys have...well they lived down to expectations (putting faith in them was a foreseeable mistake). If only there had been some improvement from the upperclassmen we could've entered today in the same bubble position that Seton Hall did.
Simple:
First half we run our stuff, in other words, in rhythm.
Second half S.H. brings chaos, mayhem as All-State says. Marquette is not experienced playing city ball. It can't be duplicated in practice. X's and O's don't count end game.
At end game James plays a different game, his teammates haven't a clue.
In time it may work out.
Today at the end everyone on S,H, was moving while we were trying to control the outcome.
Instinct will win most times.
St. John's is another team that brings it.
When I was active on Scoop I would say the administration wanted a prep school team. Well here it is, enjoy.
Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on January 31, 2026, 02:52:06 PMAgree Muggsy and also agree we would be worse without them this year since they are all we have. They have regressed although Ben made 3 triples this game but Ben had just 2 rebounds. Chase had 1 REBOUND in 36 minutes which is not sticking his nose in there and not fighting.
Absolutely unbelievable. Ty MM. 3 combined rebs for those guys???? This is indefensible imo.
Quote from: 1SE on January 31, 2026, 03:50:27 PMSorry had game on delay and didn't see this discussion or.wouldnt haven't started other topic. But I also.just cannot understand this - those two.posessions lost.us the game. Does Shaka actually think.Ben can be effective there or are they just not listening to Shaka? Neither answer is great.
Ben's tries.hard and seems like a nice kid, but he brings very limited thing to the team 2 rebounds in, what, 35 minutes from a 5 isn't great...
The thing is, it's not what I would call a trap at all. Ben didn't even have his hands up on that one 35 feet from the rim late in the game. It was almost impossible not to score on that garbage. I've asked very politely to 🪓 this strategy since Oso left. It appears I have been ignored. :(
Shaka stopped taking your calls?
You know, he invites fans to come to practice all of the time. Opportunities abound for you.
Quote from: connie on January 31, 2026, 03:20:11 PMWait until next year!
I hope I have at least a few brand new upperclassmen to start watching film on before I lower my overall expectations
Lost a bit this morning was that Stevens was terrific in the first half. He stuck some spot threes and had I think 5 assists. He's generally not a ball stopper, but at times can be gunshy. I think he's going to a be a really good 2-way player for us.
Again, priorities 1-5 should be to add a bona fide baller at the 5. I'm talking about a dude who can patrol the paint defensively, rebound, play with force and score at the rim, run the floor, lay-out perimeter guys on screens, and stick the 3 ball as well. I'm not saying these guys are easy to find, but they're around. Get a dude who can take care of business and elevate this team where they should be moving forward.
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 31, 2026, 06:47:59 PMLost a bit this morning was that Stevens was terrific in the first half. He stuck some spot threes and had I think 5 assists. He's generally not a ball stopper, but at times can be gunshy. I think he's going to a be a really good 2-way player for us.
Again, priorities 1-5 should be to add a bona fide baller at the 5. I'm talking about a dude who can patrol the paint defensively, rebound, play with force and score at the rim, run the floor, lay-out perimeter guys on screens, and stick the 3 ball as well. I'm not saying these guys are easy to find, but they're around. Get a dude who can take care of business and elevate this team where they should be moving forward.
What 5's that checked all of those boxes transferred last off-season and how are they doing this season?
Marquette definitely needs a starting 5 from the portal but you might want to adjust your expectations.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on January 31, 2026, 07:03:23 PMWhat 5's that checked all of those boxes transferred last off-season and how are they doing this season?
Marquette definitely needs a starting 5 from the portal but you might want to adjust your expectations.
I'm not asking for an Olajuwon but will admit I don't really know the potential options.
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 31, 2026, 12:59:41 PMThis team is going to be exponentially better with Chase & Ben moving on. I think we have a decent foundation with Nigel, RP, Adrien, and DO & MP. Damarius is playing much better on the defensive end. You add our newcomers and 2 quality portal guys, including a badass big. This could bring dividends to MU and a quicker turnaround than most project.
It depends on what we replace them with. If it's a RS freshman reason playing Ben's minutes and a true freshman taking Chase's, we'll probably be worse. If it's experienced players that fit the system, we'll probably be better.
For next year I'd like to roll with only the current underclassmen minus Hamilton
James | Transfer
Stevens | Phillips / Walker | Johnston
Transfer | EGBuonu / Miletic
Parham | Owens | Recruit/Transfer
Transfer | Sheek | Clark
Quote from: Markusquette on January 31, 2026, 09:32:19 PMFor next year I'd like to roll with only the current underclassmen minus Hamilton
James | Transfer
Stevens | Phillips / Walker | Johnston
Transfer | EGBuonu / Miletic
Parham | Owens | Recruit/Transfer
Transfer | Sheek | Clark
Interesting. Not to be harsh but it looks like we're adding Tre & Sean to the ash heap of history.
I think its pretty obvious at this point both will be leaving.
We'll have plenty of room to add the transfer wing and big we need.
Quote from: JTJ3 on January 31, 2026, 09:56:15 PMI think its pretty obvious at this point both will be leaving.
We'll have plenty of room to add the transfer wing and big we need.
But they must be immediate major impact guys. Back up the Brinks for Nigel and find the two pieces that will bring us beck to national prominence. Don't tell me that can't be done.
We have a full week off and many winnable games coming up, beginning with Butler. I wouldn't have thought that two weeks ago. UCONN and Nova are obviously highly doubtful. The other 6 can be seized and taken imo. And then who knows in the BE tournament.
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 31, 2026, 10:14:25 PMWe have a full week off and many winnable games coming up, beginning with Butler. I wouldn't have thought that two weeks ago. UCONN and Nova are obviously highly doubtful. The other 6 can be seized and taken imo. And then who knows in the BE tournament.
We're beating St John's, we already lost to Georgetown at home, and we barely beat X and PC at home.
Butler and DePaul are the only games I wouls currently put money on us to win.
When NJ hits the Sophomore wall, people here will ask for him to transfer.
Quote from: Newsdreams on January 31, 2026, 10:29:29 PMWhen NJ hits the Sophomore wall, people here will ask for him to transfer.
I don't believe in this wall, but if that happens, I agree.
Parham should be hitting this wall right now, no?
Quote from: Newsdreams on January 31, 2026, 10:29:29 PMWhen NJ hits the Sophomore wall, people here will ask for him to transfer.
Different situation compared to guys like Parham and Owens. James got the keys to the team a month into his freshman season and he's not letting up
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on January 31, 2026, 10:26:46 PMWe're beating St John's, we already lost to Georgetown at home, and we barely beat X and PC at home.
Butler and DePaul are the only games I wouls currently put money on us to win.
Fk St.John's and Gtown. We can take them both out even with our issues.
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 31, 2026, 10:47:31 PMFk St.John's and Gtown. We can take them both out even with our issues.
It would be foolish to bet against MU to make the S16.
Quote from: WhiteTrash on January 31, 2026, 11:01:13 PMIt would be foolish to bet against MU to make the S16.
I'm not being hyperbolic. Keep in mind how weak our conf is. I believe we are more than capable of beating them.
Quote from: WhiteTrash on January 31, 2026, 11:01:13 PMIt would be foolish to bet against MU to make the S16.
Is that the tournament in Vegas?
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 31, 2026, 11:04:46 PMI'm not being hyperbolic. Keep in mind how weak our conf is. I believe we are more than capable of beating them.
Thanks for pointing out we can't win in a bad conference. I think more salt in this wound is just what MU fans need. :(
Quote from: Markusquette on January 31, 2026, 09:32:19 PMFor next year I'd like to roll with only the current underclassmen minus Hamilton
James | Transfer
Stevens | Phillips / Walker | Johnston
Transfer | EGBuonu / Miletic
Parham | Owens | Recruit/Transfer
Transfer | Sheek | Clark
Seems like nothing but wishful thinking at this point.
Quote from: Markusquette on January 31, 2026, 09:32:19 PMFor next year I'd like to roll with only the current underclassmen minus Hamilton
James | Transfer
Stevens | Phillips / Walker | Johnston
Transfer | EGBuonu / Miletic
Parham | Owens | Recruit/Transfer
Transfer | Sheek | Clark
I don't necessarily disagree with this
I think it's interesting that in the above scenario Marquette would have 6 players with in game experience in a Marquette uniform- 2 of those with limited minutes- and 8 without.
I'm ok with that and I hope Shaka is too.
As for the actual transfer part- my take is that Shaka should bring in the two best players he can regardless of position, and move the remaining pieces as needed and as he sees fit. I'd like an impact scorer with 2 years remaining and a reliable defensively talented big, but my hope is that he brings in the 2-3 best players he can and let the rest work itself out.
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 31, 2026, 06:40:32 PMThe thing is, it's not what I would call a trap at all. Ben didn't even have his hands up on that one 35 feet from the rim late in the game. It was almost impossible not to score on that garbage. I've asked very politely to 🪓 this strategy since Oso left. It appears I have been ignored. :(
It should have been a switch but Chase got caught in no man's land and decided on a slow trap. Chase was out of position quite often today, IMO, but switching that far from the basket makes little sense. That's the design. In any event, cut back on the TOs, box out like BE players, and hit some damn FTs and it doesn't matter.
Quote from: WhiteTrash on January 31, 2026, 11:15:12 PMThanks for pointing out we can't win in a bad conference. I think more salt in this wound is just what MU fans need. :(
We can win!!! 100%
Quote from: rocky_warrior on January 31, 2026, 10:34:25 PMI don't believe in this wall, but if that happens, I agree.
Parham should be hitting this wall right now, no?
He did at the beginning of the year and people wanted him out, Scoop
Quote from: Newsdreams on February 01, 2026, 01:33:08 AMHe did at the beginning of the year and people wanted him out, Scoop
Wait... The wall timeline is fungible... By... You???
Hopefully James, Stevens and Phillips suck at the beginning of next season so that MU can be decent in Feb?
And Parham and Owens are barely performing to their preseason expectations now? That's the ceiling?
Quote from: Newsdreams on January 31, 2026, 10:29:29 PMWhen NJ hits the Sophomore wall, people here will ask for him to transfer.
Ha! Doubt it but that is funny. Spit out my coffee.
Quote from: Markusquette on January 31, 2026, 09:32:19 PMFor next year I'd like to roll with only the current underclassmen minus Hamilton
James | Transfer
Stevens | Phillips / Walker | Johnston
Transfer | EGBuonu / Miletic
Parham | Owens | Recruit/Transfer
Transfer | Sheek | Clark
This is pretty much what I expect next year.
Nigel
Stevens
Transfer
Royce
Transfer
Owens
Sheek
Phillips
Egbuonu/Miletic/Walker/Johnston/Clark
That would be a legit team. The holdover starters have talent that is obvious. The bench has talent that is obvious. Just those guys alone give optimism for next that was not there before this year.
Quote from: Shooter McGavin on February 01, 2026, 09:28:46 AMThat would be a legit team. The holdover starters have talent that is obvious. The bench has talent that is obvious. Just those guys alone give optimism for next that was not there before this year.
I think its absolutely a tourney team if the big guard and center transfers are Big East starting caliber dudes. Thats my expectation going into next year. Its not unrealistic, just 2 legit portal adds. Not a whole new roster.
Anything less and I think Shaka will earn the hot seat talk. Missing the tourney 2 years in a row, with all the talent available to add in the portal now days, should never happen here.
Quote from: JTJ3 on February 01, 2026, 09:52:13 AMI think its absolutely a tourney team if the big guard and center transfers are Big East starting caliber dudes. Thats my expectation going into next year. Its not unrealistic, just 2 legit portal adds. Not a whole new roster.
Anything less and I think Shaka will earn the hot seat talk. Missing the tourney 2 years in a row, with all the talent available to add in the portal now days, should never happen here.
He's on the hot seat going into next year. Absolutely unacceptable season this year and the program cannot afford him to play the same Mickey Mouse roster games he's done the last couple of years.
Quote from: panda on February 01, 2026, 10:03:22 AMHe's on the hot seat going into next year. Absolutely unacceptable season this year and the program cannot afford him to play the same Mickey Mouse roster games he's done the last couple of years.
Nominee for dumbest post of 2026.
That's not a bad idea - kind of like the Grammys or the Darwin's... I think Scoop could get behind that especially with years performance.
Quote from: Elonsmusk on February 01, 2026, 10:34:01 AMNo need to elaborate.
No need to nominate this one. Dumbest post of the year (so far)
*and cowardly
Quote from: JTJ3 on February 01, 2026, 08:34:03 AMThis is pretty much what I expect next year.
Nigel
Stevens
Transfer
Royce
Transfer
Owens
Sheek
Phillips
Egbuonu/Miletic/Walker/Johnston/Clark
I do not *expect* Shaka to do this, but this would be close to my preferred re-tooling. Done right, that could be a serious team.
I'd be surprised if Caedin isn't back. I do expect Tre and Sean to move on.
Quote from: BM1090 on February 01, 2026, 12:25:30 PMI'd be surprised if Caedin isn't back.
If it is solely up to him, I agree.
Where is he going to get a better deal?
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on February 01, 2026, 12:27:53 PMIf it is solely up to him, I agree. Where is he going to get a better deal?
That, and the staff clearly believed in him going into this year. It was misplaced, but I wouldn't be surprised if they gave him one more year. Even if it's as a backup/third string 5 MPG center.
I will hope the two transfers are seniors or grad transfers!
Quote from: BM1090 on February 01, 2026, 12:25:30 PMI'd be surprised if Caedin isn't back. I do expect Tre and Sean to move on.
2 out of 3 ain't bad. I keep telling myself when I see Ham "It's not his fault."
Quote from: BM1090 on February 01, 2026, 12:29:30 PMThat, and the staff clearly believed in him going into this year. It was misplaced, but I wouldn't be surprised if they gave him one more year. Even if it's as a backup/third string 5 MPG center.
Shaka and the staff have talked themselves into Caedin as an answer the past two seasons. If I had faith they'd use him only as a 5 MPG third stringer ALL season (after getting a starting center in the portal), then I'd be fine with it, but I'm highly skeptical. Just as likely the staff convinces themselves he just needed another year of development and then wow, what an improvement he's made in the offseason! Somebody get Rothstein on the horn!
I'd rather he just transfer, because I trust this staff to use Caedin responsibly at the start of next year as much as I trust a six year old with fireworks.
Quote from: Small Orange Soda on February 01, 2026, 02:38:55 PMShaka and the staff have talked themselves into Caedin as an answer the past two seasons. If I had faith they'd use him only as a 5 MPG third stringer ALL season (after getting a starting center in the portal), then I'd be fine with it, but I'm highly skeptical. Just as likely the staff convinces themselves he just needed another year of development and then wow, what an improvement he's made in the offseason! Somebody get Rothstein on the horn!
I'd rather he just transfer, because I trust this staff to use Caedin responsibly at the start of next year as much as I trust a six year old with fireworks.
His minutes have decreased significantly over the last month. I'm 50/50 on his return. Think he's sort of coach's pet, but they're a better team when he isn't playing. I think he has to be out the door too. If I had to choose any of the guys to remain it would probably be Sean just so they have another PG if necessary.
Quote from: Markusquette on February 01, 2026, 03:09:14 PMHis minutes have decreased significantly over the last month. I'm 50/50 on his return. Think he's sort of coach's pet, but they're a better team when he isn't playing. I think he has to be out the door too. If I had to choose any of the guys to remain it would probably be Sean just so they have another PG if necessary.
I'm afraid that if Caedin is back (likely, because at MU he has the best deal he can get) Shaka will insist on trying him
again.
I have difficulty seeing Sean returning. Imagine believing that once you healed, the starting PG slot was
yours. I think watching Nigel continue as the starter would be simply more than he could bear.
Quote from: Small Orange Soda on February 01, 2026, 02:38:55 PMShaka and the staff have talked themselves into Caedin as an answer the past two seasons. If I had faith they'd use him only as a 5 MPG third stringer ALL season (after getting a starting center in the portal), then I'd be fine with it, but I'm highly skeptical. Just as likely the staff convinces themselves he just needed another year of development and then wow, what an improvement he's made in the offseason! Somebody get Rothstein on the horn!
I'd rather he just transfer, because I trust this staff to use Caedin responsibly at the start of next year as much as I trust a six year old with fireworks.
I think Shaka clearly knows we need a badass big and Caedin isn't the answer. I would be beyond shocked if we run it back witb Caedin and Josh.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on February 01, 2026, 03:30:57 PMI'm afraid that if Caedin is back (likely, because at MU he has the best deal he can get) Shaka will insist on trying him again.
I have difficulty seeing Sean returning. Imagine believing that once you healed, the starting PG slot was yours. I think watching Nigel continue as the starter would be simply more than he could bear.
There is that possibility. But also possible/likely thathe could graduate this spring and move on to coaching. His future in basketball is far more likely to be in coaching?
Quote from: MuggsyB on February 01, 2026, 03:42:21 PMI think Shaka clearly knows we need a badass big and Caedin isn't the answer. I would be beyond shocked if we run it back witb Caedin and Josh.
What leads you to believe "Shaka clearly knows we need a badass big"?
Quote from: willie warrior on February 01, 2026, 04:06:49 PMWhat leads you to believe "Shaka clearly knows we need a badass big"?
He's not a moron Willie and can definitely coach with the right pieces. If he doesn't pivot it would essentially mean he's sabotaging his career and our program. It's not rational to think he doesn't get that we have severe issues on the interior.
I'm fine with Caedin coming back if he is buried on the bench. He sounds like a good locker-room guy and "amazing" in practice. I have to believe Shaka has been honest with him as his PT has evaporated so taking the money if you know you don't have a basketball future is smart. The ultra competitive players and guys who have confidence in their abilities will leave for more PT opportunities.
Quote from: MuggsyB on February 01, 2026, 04:16:28 PMHe's not a moron Willie and can definitely coach with the right pieces. If he doesn't pivot it would essentially mean he's sabotaging his career and our program. It's not rational to think he doesn't get that we have severe issues on the interior.
He is directly responsible for not having the right pieces now.
Quote from: JTJ3 on February 01, 2026, 08:34:03 AMThis is pretty much what I expect next year.
Nigel
Stevens
Transfer
Royce
Transfer
Owens
Sheek
Phillips
Egbuonu/Miletic/Walker/Johnston/Clark
That is only 13. So bank the two Schollies next season or who are the two that come after Clark?
Quote from: willie warrior on February 01, 2026, 06:28:48 PMHe is directly responsible for not having the right pieces now.
Yes, you are absolutely correct. I still believe he deserves the benefit of the doubt that he can turn this around.
Tre Norman will get his own segment on the Thursday radio show, available the next day on YouTube. Give it a listen or watch and see what the young man has to say.
Quote from: panda on January 31, 2026, 04:59:42 PMWhen does the federal investigation start on Ross? That's the only plausible explanation for his fall off after an incredible start this season.
Even as a "joke" I think comments like this are uncalled for.
The much more plausible explanation is that Ross is trying too hard to fill a role that is beyond his capability and has become frustrated.
Suggesting that he is trying to sabotage the team is ridiculous.
Quote from: wisblue on February 02, 2026, 07:00:52 AMEven as a "joke" I think comments like this are uncalled for.
The much more plausible explanation is that Ross is trying too hard to fill a role that is beyond his capability and has become frustrated.
Suggesting that he is trying to sabotage the team is ridiculous.
To be fair, at times it looks like he isn't trying at all.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on February 01, 2026, 06:46:41 PMThat is only 13. So bank the two Schollies next season or who are the two that come after Clark?
Hamilton will be back.
I could see 1 of Jones or Norman leaving, but I'd be shocked if all 3 leave.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 02, 2026, 07:31:24 AMTo be fair, at times it looks like he isn't trying at all.
I'm completely lost on Ross. Especially after watching some of his past games from his soph and junior seasons. I find it totally bizarre. There have been times he looks checked-out for lack of a better phrase.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 02, 2026, 07:31:24 AMTo be fair, at times it looks like he isn't trying at all.
To be fair, we must not be watching the same games.
Quote from: tower912 on February 02, 2026, 07:39:10 AMTo be fair, we must not be watching the same games.
Agreed
https://x.com/i/status/2017983955220238559
I disagree with that opinion, too.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 02, 2026, 07:33:07 AMHamilton will be back.
I could see 1 of Jones or Norman leaving, but I'd be shocked if all 3 leave.
...or all 3 could stay and we have only one opening which may or may not be filled?
Quote from: muwarrior69 on February 02, 2026, 08:56:21 AM...or all 3 could stay and we have only one opening which may or may not be filled?
Definitely. I think that is probably the most likely scenario.
That is far from the most likely scenario. There will be more departures, Im not worried about that.
I'm surprised no has made the Jujuan Johnson comparison with Ross. As a senior, Ross is 15 ppg, 4 rpg, 3 apg, while Johnson was 12, 4, 3. Excellent athleticism, not a great feel for the game. Questionable effort at times.
Similarly, I could see Chase exploding in in the Big East tournament for a 25 point game, or being an absolute ghost. Which is what you don't want from your marquee senior.
Chase hasn't been the same since barreling into Badger defenders drive after drive. After that, things really seemed to unravel. What could've been a meaningful season for the seniors turned into a total disappointment. The silver lining is the promising future of a few young guys.
Quote from: DienerTime34 on February 02, 2026, 10:51:13 AMI'm surprised no has made the Jujuan Johnson comparison with Ross. As a senior, Ross is 15 ppg, 4 rpg, 3 apg, while Johnson was 12, 4, 3. Excellent athleticism, not a great feel for the game. Questionable effort at times.
Similarly, I could see Chase exploding in in the Big East tournament for a 25 point game, or being an absolute ghost. Which is what you don't want from your marquee senior.
A few major differences. JaJuan shot like 38% from 3 and was coming off the bench at the end of the year. Chase is starting and shooting 26% from 3 with defense that has regressed. The roster in 2017 slotted JaJuan as like our 6th best player and he was good in his role.
Chase was expected to be our best player and he's still probably like our 3rd or 4th just as he was last year.
Quote from: Markusquette on February 02, 2026, 11:03:35 AMChase hasn't been the same since barreling into Badger defenders drive after drive. After that, things really seemed to unravel. What could've been a meaningful season for the seniors turned into a total disappointment. The silver lining is the promising future of a few young guys.
It's been a rough year for the seniors, but in fairness to them, their supporting cast has been inadequate. The junior class provided nothing. Parham has played pretty well of late but was nonexistent early in the season. Owens couldn't get on the floor early in the year and has been up and down of late. James and Stevens have stepped up, but they're still freshmen. Who could blame Ross for pressing? His gambling on D has been more exposed this year because the help isn't there.
Quote from: Zog from Margo on February 02, 2026, 11:27:39 AMIt's been a rough year for the seniors, but in fairness to them, their supporting cast has been inadequate. The junior class provided nothing. Parham has played pretty well of late but was nonexistent early in the season. Owens couldn't get on the floor early in the year and has been up and down of late. James and Stevens have stepped up, but they're still freshmen. Who could blame Ross for pressing? His gambling on D has been more exposed this year because the help isn't there.
Not really blaming per se. I think he started the year very well and had solid games in tough losses to OU and MD which was deflating. The start to the year sucked as far as support and putting that largely on Shaka too for his head-scratching lineups. I think Shaka's infatuation with practice play was part of the reason for a poor start.
I feel bad for Chase and Ben. They've put in a lot of time and work. It's sad that their senior year turned out to be so disappointing.
Quote from: Elonsmusk on February 01, 2026, 10:20:18 AMNominee for dumbest post of 2026.
Oh I am pretty sure that if this talent isn't upgraded and results don't improve next year, he will very likely not have a job come Fall 2027. I think panda has a very good understanding that the people writing checks to support this program are beyond annoyed with this season and Shaka's approach.
And I think by definition that means he will be on the hot seat.
Quote from: The Sultan on February 04, 2026, 08:23:35 AMOh I am pretty sure that if this talent isn't upgraded and results don't improve next year, he will very likely not have a job come Fall 2027.
If that happens, the comments in another thread regarding CEOs receiving golden parachutes after being fired for poor performance are a
great analogy. Wojo got a really nice golden parachute, as would Shaka.
When you factor in the number of turnovers and awful shots taken by Chase Ross, one can make an argument that the offense will be better without him on the court. He does add a dimension of steals and creating fast-breaks that takes it from a total disaster to below average on the whole. Considering his steals, it's likely not an effort issue but that he's not skilled offensively. I do think he could play DB on a high-level football team.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on February 04, 2026, 08:50:13 AMIf that happens, the comments in another thread regarding CEOs receiving golden parachutes after being fired for poor performance are a great analogy. Wojo got a really nice golden parachute, as would Shaka.
At the end of the day, the compensations are what the market dictates. It is entirely possible to hire a head coach or CEO without a contract that requires a buy out or parachute, you simply pay more on a year to year basis.
Quote from: WhiteTrash on February 04, 2026, 12:06:22 PMAt the end of the day, the compensations are what the market dictates. It is entirely possible to hire a head coach or CEO without a contract that requires a buy out or parachute, you simply pay more on a year to year basis.
A CEO? Sure. But a coach in a major conference without a contract? Other than an interim coach, I do not see that happening anywhere.
My original point was that CEOs are not the only ones with golden parachutes. All Wojo has to do is invest and manage his money well, not blow it, and working is optional for the rest of his life.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on February 04, 2026, 12:28:37 PMA CEO? Sure. But a coach in a major conference without a contract? Other than an interim coach, I do not see that happening anywhere.
My original point was that CEOs are not the only ones with golden parachutes. All Wojo has to do is invest and manage his money well, not blow it, and working is optional for the rest of his life.
I'll assert that you could pay an amount that a HC would take on a year to year basis. I think it would be better financially and otherwise for a school to enter into a multi year agreement and that is why you never see it. That is the market at work to create the best efficiencies.
As the Pat McAfee show says This Show Sucks and we are grateful for the fact you watch. Well our team sucks but it was self inflicted. That said have been going to games for almost 60 years and plan on continuing. Am grateful you all are too. Marquette Basketball will be back and back soon. Win on Saturday.
Ross has pretty much taken his game out of first gear....He plays sometimes....Sometimes he goes thru the motions....
For example....
Did you notice the "OLE" defense when the Butler kid drove right thru him and he stepped to the side.....
Shaka called an immediate time out and got to Ross before he got to the bench....And Shaka looked to be yelling....
It was noticeable and would have loved to see the rest of the interaction.....But they went to commercial....