Holy hell.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Minneapolis/comments/1qlpzu8/another_ice_murder_in_front_of_glam_doll_donuts/
Border Patrol guarding the borders outside Minneapolis donut shops.
To be fair the victim had the 7 of them outnumbered
Making a dreadful storm the least harmful ICE story of the weekend.
Huh, now why would the feds do that?
https://x.com/atrupar/status/2015102465075560595?s=20
Another one a mile from where I grew up. Oofta
Dovetails precisely with the now shut down dystopia thread.
Quote from: tower912 on January 24, 2026, 10:54:33 AMMaking a dreadful storm the least harmful ICE story of the weekend.
Shhh, you can't use "ice" when talkinga about the weather:
https://x.com/Acyn/status/2014852240734027848
https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgressiveHQ/comments/1qlqu86/124_mn_ice_shooting_another_angle_from_farther/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=1
Second angle. 10-12 shots? And an agent clapping?
Quote from: jesmu84 on January 24, 2026, 11:13:53 AMhttps://www.reddit.com/r/ProgressiveHQ/comments/1qlqu86/124_mn_ice_shooting_another_angle_from_farther/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=1
Second angle. 10-12 shots? And an agent clapping?
Makes sense, a lot of people had the audacity to march in protest yesterday
https://x.com/i/status/2015105704013574488
Allegedly, witnesses taken into custody by ice
https://x.com/i/status/2015109122136363174
IF victim has a gun, it appears he was disarmed BEFORE being murdered
Horrifying.
Quote from: Pakuni on January 24, 2026, 10:56:59 AMHuh, now why would the feds do that?
https://x.com/atrupar/status/2015102465075560595?s=20
(https://i.imgur.com/sUpua6W.gif)
Quote from: jesmu84 on January 24, 2026, 11:13:53 AMhttps://www.reddit.com/r/ProgressiveHQ/comments/1qlqu86/124_mn_ice_shooting_another_angle_from_farther/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=1
Second angle. 10-12 shots? And an agent clapping?
A round of applause is common etiquette after a murder.
https://x.com/i/status/2015118735191724365
This is beyond appalling.
Our country is now infested with lawless gestapo agents whose only goal is to kill and incite unrest so the demented one can crack down even more.
Mmmkay. This is bad.
Ban a moderator.
Quote from: Jockey on January 24, 2026, 12:07:34 PMThis is beyond appalling.
Our country is now infested with lawless gestapo agents whose only goal is to kill and incite unrest so the demented one can crack down even more.
#FakeNews #Lies
https://x.com/i/status/2015119412634808544
https://x.com/i/status/2015124778592436369
It is beyond appalling ICE would deprive someone of their 2nd amendment rights.
Quote from: GB Warrior on January 24, 2026, 12:19:19 PMIt is beyond appalling ICE would deprive someone of their 2nd all amendment rights.
FIFY
Quote from: GB Warrior on January 24, 2026, 12:19:19 PMIt is beyond appalling ICE would deprive someone of their 2nd amendment rights.
I don't know a lot, but I thought this kind of thing was allegedly the reason that we're unable to pass legislation to help prevent our kids from getting slaughtered at school.
QuoteA well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Quote from: MUBurrow on January 24, 2026, 12:24:30 PMI don't know a lot, but I thought this kind of thing was allegedly the reason that we're unable to pass legislation to help prevent our kids from getting slaughtered at school.
This administration doesn't want lone wolf school shooters. That's why ICE is here
ICE is responsible for 2/3 of homicides in Minneapolis this year.
https://x.com/i/status/2015119412634808544
https://x.com/i/status/2015131503622021472
Quote from: jesmu84 on January 24, 2026, 12:39:07 PMhttps://x.com/i/status/2015131503622021472
Yeah that's an execution
Quote from: jesmu84 on January 24, 2026, 12:39:07 PMhttps://x.com/i/status/2015131503622021472
Waiting for Noem to tell us this didn't happen.
Quote from: jesmu84 on January 24, 2026, 12:39:07 PMhttps://x.com/i/status/2015131503622021472
Holy crap.
Looked like he was helping the woman shoved down and they sprayed him and executed him.
Here's the video of the moments leading up to the altercation.
https://x.com/meidastouch/status/2015117184377475103?s=46
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 24, 2026, 12:13:34 PM#FakeNews #Lies
Man unnatural carnal knowledge outta here with that. People are getting executed in your city. Multiple of them. By cops. And you're busy licking boots?
Quote from: TallTitan34 on January 24, 2026, 12:51:36 PMWaiting for Noem to tell us this didn't happen.
She sees nothing wrong with this; she did this with her dog just last week
If this is what's happening on the street what is happening in the prisons.
This is all so sick and wrong.
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 24, 2026, 12:13:34 PM#FakeNews #Lies
Unfortunately, it's not.
The Fuhrer has unleashed his masked Gestapo agents on the residents of your metro area, executing your fellow Twin Citians in cold blood without cause. You should be outraged.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on January 24, 2026, 12:32:38 PMICE is responsible for 2/3 of homicides in Minneapolis this year.
There's a good case for first degree murder there. The shooter was not under any threat and had to realize it.
Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on January 24, 2026, 01:05:14 PMIf this is what's happening on the street what is happening in the prisons.
This is all so sick and wrong.
Forget the prisons, how about the ICE concentration camps?
Cold-blooded murder.
Disgusting.
https://x.com/i/status/2015137756767219897
https://x.com/i/status/2015148205588009454
Quote from: Skatastrophy on January 24, 2026, 01:00:01 PMMan unnatural carnal knowledge outta here with that. People are getting executed in your city. Multiple of them. By cops. And you're busy licking boots?
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 11, 2026, 09:22:22 PMYou're super weird, no cap. Malik the male nurse. lol
Guy was a male nurse. He's fine with it
The gun the guy had legally holstered had trans rights written on the bullets in it I bet
Quote from: GB Warrior on January 24, 2026, 01:01:16 PMShe sees nothing wrong with this; she did this with her dog just last week
In her defense maybe all the stuff she's put into her face finally made it up to her brain.
These f**king people just pretend like video doesn't exist.
https://x.com/bulwarkonline/status/2015141884679557592?s=46
Hiding evidence, stealing phones, intimidating witnesses. Just another day for ice.
Can't wait to see how our resident nazi defends this one.
Quote from: Skatastrophy on January 24, 2026, 01:00:01 PMMan unnatural carnal knowledge outta here with that. People are getting executed in your city. Multiple of them. By cops. And you're busy licking boots?
JB supports this.
https://www.reddit.com/r/LateStageCapitalism/s/FAhol5kzM4
As I said earlier, murder is the plan.
Quote from: jesmu84 on January 24, 2026, 02:32:28 PMhttps://www.reddit.com/r/LateStageCapitalism/s/FAhol5kzM4
This is angle that shows most clearly that this was an execution and nothing else. You see an agent instigate it, you see an agent escalate it, an agent clear the weapon, yoj see he was vastly out numbered, you see he had his hands pinned in front of him and was immobilized, you see the shots.
Execution and no amount of complaining and false narratives from a pickleball player pretending to be a boxer is going to change that.
https://x.com/sentdefender/status/2015152938931356090?s=20
I honestly don't know how anything can be fixed when basic facts can't even be acknowledged.
https://x.com/i/status/2015144593067585905
Quote from: jesmu84 on January 24, 2026, 03:27:36 PMhttps://x.com/i/status/2015144593067585905
I didn't mean you should have guns, I meant I should have one and you should be scared of it
2 good videos:
https://www.reddit.com/r/LateStageCapitalism/s/U9DsTtzu1d
https://www.reddit.com/r/Minneapolis/s/V2WHPSuuu4
No law background for me but what's the chances MPD can take the agent into custody? Why can't they and bring state charges for murder agasint him? Isn't this still MPD jurisdiction?
Quote from: MUeng on January 24, 2026, 04:45:02 PMNo law background for me but what's the chances MPD can take the agent into custody? Why can't they and bring state charges for murder agasint him? Isn't this still MPD jurisdiction?
Escalation (it's already completely escalated)
Just back here to say that a few hours later, this one really has me unnatural carnal knowledgeed up.
It may feel good to lob shots at JB, but if this is going to stop, we need the JBs of the world to see themselves in the guy that got executed in the street today.
Quote from: MUBurrow on January 24, 2026, 04:57:53 PMJust back here to say that a few hours later, this one really has me unnatural carnal knowledgeed up.
It may feel good to lob shots at JB, but if this is going to stop, we need the JBs of the world to see themselves in the guy that got executed in the street today.
Honestly? Spend less energy on people who don't share your values. Just ostracize them and move on with your life. Spend time trying to change things with people who share your values.
If someone is rooting for the cops after they shot a guy who was on all fours, getting whupped on by 7 or 8 cops? Frack em. It doesn't matter if they're a bad person or just trolling. Set firm boundaries.
Quote from: MUBurrow on January 24, 2026, 04:57:53 PMJust back here to say that a few hours later, this one really has me unnatural carnal knowledgeed up.
It may feel good to lob shots at JB, but if this is going to stop, we need the JBs of the world to see themselves in the guy that got executed in the street today.
Imagine their outrage if the Capitol police opened up on the January 6th protesters who were actually attacking them and our government.
Quote from: MUBurrow on January 24, 2026, 04:57:53 PMJust back here to say that a few hours later, this one really has me unnatural carnal knowledgeed up.
It may feel good to lob shots at JB, but if this is going to stop, we need the JBs of the world to see themselves in the guy that got executed in the street today.
You aren't going to penetrate a hermetically sealed echo chamber. The AI altering of pictures is the end state of this.
It's about where it's more important to be fed what you want to see even if you know it's not true, than to objectively observe real footage or images.
The important content that will come of this to them is that there's a visibly AI generated blue haired barista getting triggered over this, footage of an execution be damned. It's all it is becoming now and all it will be going forward in the future. But it also will never be enough because it's escalatory in nature (a tolerance if you will).
you're always looking to get that next dopamine hit of imagining someone being upset over something. It doesn't matter the action anymore as much as if the right people get upset/hurt.
A cruel segment of society devoid of empathy
https://x.com/i/status/2015195312311439820
Quote from: MUBurrow on January 24, 2026, 04:57:53 PMJust back here to say that a few hours later, this one really has me unnatural carnal knowledgeed up.
It may feel good to lob shots at JB, but if this is going to stop, we need the JBs of the world to see themselves in the guy that got executed in the street today.
Tough sell, guy was an upstanding citizen with some moral fiber
Quote from: TallTitan34 on January 24, 2026, 12:51:36 PMWaiting for Noem to tell us this didn't happen.
https://x.com/atrupar/status/2015192621010796896?s=46
Quote from: TallTitan34 on January 24, 2026, 06:17:45 PMhttps://x.com/atrupar/status/2015192621010796896?s=46
Not if they have flag poles though
Quote from: TallTitan34 on January 24, 2026, 06:17:45 PMhttps://x.com/atrupar/status/2015192621010796896?s=46
Is Noem saying that we can retroactively put a few in the back of Rittenhouse then? F*** off
Quote from: MUBurrow on January 24, 2026, 04:57:53 PMIt may feel good to lob shots at JB, but if this is going to stop, we need the JBs of the world to see themselves in the guy that got executed in the street today.
I don't know. It feels like the one thing Trump was right about was that he could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and his supporters wouldn't care.
It got worse. And the MAGA crowd will eat it up.
https://x.com/atrupar/status/2015193147391783128?s=46
What happened sickens me. The videos from the different angles shows this as an assault on a man trying to help a woman (who was assaulted by an ICE officer), who in turn is then assaulted while he has his hands above his head. He is then taken to the ground, beaten by 6-7 ICE agents, who disarm him (of his legally allowed holstered weapon), then shoot him in the back 10-12 times.
If you watch the video, even when he is being taken to the ground and assaulted, he's trying to grab his glasses from the ground to stop them from being broken, as he is beaten.
That is murder. That alone is sickening.
What is even worse, is that we can't as a nation come together and say enough is enough. This is what we call despotism when it happens in other countries. When the government perpetuates false narratives and suppresses the evidence to the contrary, we call them despots and dictators. We all said it can never happen here, but then when it does, we are at a place in our society that one side denies it is happening, or blames the victims, because it is their side doing it.
That is what sickens me the most, and if we can't all stand up together against this, we are doomed.
That's all, I know some politics there, but I'm disgusted.
Quote from: MUeng on January 24, 2026, 04:45:02 PMNo law background for me but what's the chances MPD can take the agent into custody? Why can't they and bring state charges for murder agasint him? Isn't this still MPD jurisdiction?
Its what the federal government wants. It wants the story of police arresting ice agents. Then Trump can have his justification for the insurrection.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on January 24, 2026, 06:22:46 PMIt got worse. And the MAGA crowd will eat it up.
https://x.com/atrupar/status/2015193147391783128?s=46
The family should sue each and every one of them perpetuating lies they know are false for defamation of character.
Let Derek Chauvin out on the condition he summarily shoots the ICE officers
Quote from: #UnleashJosh on January 24, 2026, 06:23:11 PMIts what the federal government wants. It wants the story of police arresting ice agents. Then Trump can have his justification for the insurrection.
This is my fear. It's all intentional to create chaos, invoke the insurrection act, and cancel the election.
https://x.com/i/status/2015227532589580347
https://x.com/i/status/2015218874111639976
👀
https://x.com/joshgerstein/status/2015229076240249213?s=20
https://x.com/BNONews/status/2015230763004809710?s=20
Stephen Miller called the man an assassin in multiple still existent tweets.
It's time for us all to stand up.
The 1st thing to do is get rid of any friends and family that still support trump. Make sure they know precisely why you are eliminating them from your life. Anyone who supports these murders is not worth a second of your time.
Quote from: Jockey on January 24, 2026, 09:10:58 PMIt's time for us all to stand up.
The 1st thing to do is get rid of any friends and family that still support trump. Make sure they know precisely why you are eliminating them from your life. Anyone who supports these murders is not worth a second of your time.
^^ ban
Quote from: TallTitan34 on January 24, 2026, 06:17:45 PMhttps://x.com/atrupar/status/2015192621010796896?s=46
She is one of the most repulsive vile people i have ever seen. I was waiting to see her sick response and sure enough she shamelessly tries to defend the obviously indefensible. If Ice shot a grandma sitting in a park shed defend it. Her level of depravity knows no bounds. Her disgusting lies chill my bones. The fking woman is demonic. Cant believe this is our government
Seems pretty clear cut.
https://x.com/evanhill/status/2015244452743258324?s=20
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 24, 2026, 10:08:40 PM^^ ban
More upset about that post than ICE murdering a guy. And a woman. And God knows who else in their custody.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on January 24, 2026, 10:44:01 PMMore upset about that post than ICE murdering a guy. And a woman. And God knows who else in their custody.
You're making a crazy leap in your thinking, my friend.
Quote from: Johnny B on January 24, 2026, 10:34:39 PMCant believe this is our government
Why? Why can't you believe it? This is just another day ending in Y for this administration.
The lies, hatred, violence, racism and cruelty are what they are proudest of.
Today (maybe yesterday), an innocent US citizen was murdered by federal agents. We should all be disappointed.
Was he armed? Maybe. That's our right.
Was he threatening anybody? No.
Choose your side.
For someone who is not on Twitter, I appreciate all the posts with the many videos of this incident.
Quote from: Spaniel with a Short Tail on January 25, 2026, 07:15:04 AMFor someone who is not on Twitter, I appreciate all the posts with the many videos of this incident.
You can also browse reddit fairly quickly without an account. All the video stuff is coming from them. Twitter reposts
This is a dark night of America's soul.
I think we experienced the most radical shift in interpretation of the 2A yesterday.
Quote from: Johnny B on January 24, 2026, 10:34:39 PMShe is one of the most repulsive vile people i have ever seen. I was waiting to see her sick response and sure enough she shamelessly tries to defend the obviously indefensible. If Ice shot a grandma sitting in a park shed defend it. Her level of depravity knows no bounds. Her disgusting lies chill my bones. The fking woman is demonic. Cant believe this is our government
And she's allegedly having an affair with MAGA nutjob Corey Lewandowski now.
The real tragedy, the real indictment of the moral abyss that some have lemming leaped there way into, is that 38% still support this. Those are going to be some fun talks with St. Peter at the pearly gates.
Quote from: #UnleashJosh on January 25, 2026, 07:33:35 AMYou can also browse reddit fairly quickly without an account. All the video stuff is coming from them. Twitter reposts
If you're avoiding twitter for your mental health (Can't stop won't stop) I would propose avoiding Reddit too
Quote from: JakeBarnes on January 25, 2026, 08:35:00 AMThis is a dark night of America's soul.
AVVT/Patton say 'hi'.
Quote from: JakeBarnes on January 25, 2026, 08:35:00 AMThis is a dark night of America's soul.
Well said. Thank you.
As more details and more video becomes available, this just gets more and more disgusting.
But, as y'all discuss this with others, please try not to use the word "unbelievable."
It is absolutely believable to anybody who has been paying even the slightest bit of attention the last 10 years. When the most powerful person in America repeatedly tells you who he is and what he is in favor of, believe it.
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 24, 2026, 10:49:31 PMYou're making a crazy leap in your thinking, my friend.
You're
NOT thinking JayBee. Just kneejerk defending of the Goon Squads.
Quote from: MU82 on January 25, 2026, 10:50:17 AMAs more details and more video becomes available, this just gets more and more disgusting.
But, as y'all discuss this with others, please try not to use the word "unbelievable."
It is absolutely believable to anybody who has been paying even the slightest bit of attention the last 10 years. When the most powerful person in America repeatedly tells you who he is and what he is in favor of, believe it.
You nailed it with the bolded! The only very consistently "honest" part of him is that he did exactly what he said he would do. Anyone saying "Gee...I just didn't think that...when I voted for him' didn't think
at all.
For the side that keeps screaming #lies and #fake news, altering arrest videos to make them look more dramatic is pretty ironic.
Serious question for those that are familiar with the law. At this point, with all the evidence clearly contradicting government spokespeople. To the point that what the government officials are saying is clearly a lie that actually puts more lives at risk.
Do they have any legal culpability for all of them in obstruction of justice, or worse.
Quote from: Pakuni on January 24, 2026, 10:42:39 PMSeems pretty clear cut.
https://x.com/evanhill/status/2015244452743258324?s=20
I'm not a gun owner, but I've always read "trigger discipline" is important. Which, I believe, means don't put your finger on a trigger unless you intend to fire.
I noticed that ICE agent who fired the first few shots (since multiple agents did fire), immediately puts his finger on the trigger after his weapon from the holster.
From the video angle, it's also conceivable he was looking directly at the other officer removing the victim's weapon.
The officer waited until the victim's weapon was removed to start shooting.
Lastly, as per DHS, the shooting officer has 8? Years experience. Seems weird that he'd have so little weapon discipline then.
I hope the focus here can be the actual shooting and not stray too far into the forbidden topic so that it gets locked. I think the Noem and Bovino responses to this shooting - essentially fabricating a justification that is totally at odds with the video evidence - are doing continuing damage to ICE's claim of legitimacy. I believe (at least I hope) that the powers that be are getting more and more uncomfortable with these headlines and their dominance of the news for days on end. The two of them may find themselves reassigned at some point in time if there are additional such incidents.
Quote from: Spaniel with a Short Tail on January 25, 2026, 11:24:10 AMI hope the focus here can be the actual shooting and not stray too far into the forbidden topic so that it gets locked. I think the Noem and Bovino responses to this shooting - essentially fabricating a justification that is totally at odds with the video evidence - are doing continuing damage to ICE's claim of legitimacy. I believe (at least I hope) that the powers that be are getting more and more uncomfortable with these headlines and their dominance of the news for days on end. The two of them may find themselves reassigned at some point in time if there are additional such incidents.
Why? It's going as planned for them
Nice post Jesmu. I am not a gun owner either, but know quite a few, living in a rural area. I refuse to group them together and condemn them all as dangerous people. There are many responsible ones are adamant about safety rules, the use of firearms, etc. and rip into the ones who are irresponsible. E.g., our builder's ethos regarding deer hunting is that you must drop the deer with one shot. And if you do not have that shot clearly? "You DON'T shoot".
I realize that my using a deer hunting analogy sounds really inappropriate here, but my point is I think that with humans as the potential targets, there should be EXTREMELY strict rules, procedures, before firing the weapon. With tasers, pepper spray, and in this case overwhelming physical force (7 agents) as alternatives, only the perverted minds of people like Noem and Orange Jesus will justify the murder.
Quote from: forgetful on January 25, 2026, 11:09:58 AMSerious question for those that are familiar with the law. At this point, with all the evidence clearly contradicting government spokespeople. To the point that what the government officials are saying is clearly a lie that actually puts more lives at risk.
Do they have any legal culpability for all of them in obstruction of justice, or worse.
Even if they had legal culpability, who's going to prosecute?
Alex Pretti's final conscious act was one of kindness, catching and attempting to protect another who was being bullied and abused. He was executed by cowards and bullies for that act of kindness.
And now, cowards and bullies are doubling down on their lies.
Quote from: jesmu84 on January 25, 2026, 11:31:38 AMEven if they had legal culpability, who's going to prosecute?
Murder has no statute of limitations in federal or state court, nor does deprivation of rights under color of law when a death is involved.
Contrary to our worst fears, this administration won't always be in power.
And as we've seen over and over, our fellow citizens who serve on trial and grand juries see through this DOJ's lies.
Quote from: Pakuni on January 25, 2026, 11:49:53 AMMurder has no statute of limitations in federal or state court
#FakeNews #Lies
https://x.com/i/status/2015469192657748022
https://x.com/i/status/2015438556789870682
https://x.com/i/status/2015478917184835694
It's all lies
MTG: Voice of Reason (ish).
Now THAT is unbelievable!
Same people calling this guy a criminal for having a gun at a protest:
(https://static01.nyt.com/images/2026/01/24/video/24vi-minn-shooting/24vi-minn-shooting-videoSixteenByNineJumbo1600.jpg)
Say this guy is a hero for having a gun at a protest:
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSdHldFyB9IQvMCaTFLYQzC68rS6CvAXXP8lQ&s)
Quote from: jesmu84 on January 25, 2026, 12:38:04 PMhttps://x.com/i/status/2015438556789870682
I genuinely can't believe that MTG has had 10-20 opinions that I've agreed with over the past few months.
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Quote from: Pakuni on January 25, 2026, 12:44:47 PMSame people calling this guy a criminal for having a gun at a protest:
(https://static01.nyt.com/images/2026/01/24/video/24vi-minn-shooting/24vi-minn-shooting-videoSixteenByNineJumbo1600.jpg)
Say this guy is a hero for having a gun at a protest:
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSdHldFyB9IQvMCaTFLYQzC68rS6CvAXXP8lQ&s)
There is no end to the right-wingnuts' hypocrisy.
Quote from: MU82 on January 25, 2026, 12:44:23 PMMTG: Voice of Reason (ish).
Now THAT is unbelievable!
Agreed, but read the responses to her post. She's an outcast now and they are not happy with her post.
Quote from: Pakuni on January 25, 2026, 11:49:53 AMMurder has no statute of limitations in federal or state court, nor does deprivation of rights under color of law when a death is involved.
Contrary to our worst fears, this administration won't always be in power.
And as we've seen over and over, our fellow citizens who serve on trial and grand juries see through this DOJ's lies.
Not when they may be pardoned.
Quote from: forgetful on January 25, 2026, 01:55:56 PMNot when they may be pardoned.
President can't pardon a state crime.
Quote from: Pakuni on January 25, 2026, 02:38:41 PMPresident can't pardon a state crime.
What makes you think they'll start following laws now?
Quote from: BM1090 on January 25, 2026, 12:45:09 PMI genuinely can't believe that MTG has had 10-20 opinions that I've agreed with over the past few months.
Broken clock but also is positioning herself to not be a pariah when she exits. Don't fall for it
Weird
https://www.404media.co/ice-says-critical-evidence-in-broadview-abuse-case-was-lost-in-system-crash-a-day-after-it-was-sued/
Quote from: Shaka Shart on January 25, 2026, 02:53:33 PMWeird
https://www.404media.co/ice-says-critical-evidence-in-broadview-abuse-case-was-lost-in-system-crash-a-day-after-it-was-sued/
So the federal gov't doesn't back up its data?
Yeah, right.
Quote from: Pakuni on January 25, 2026, 12:44:47 PMSame people calling this guy a criminal for having a gun at a protest:
(https://static01.nyt.com/images/2026/01/24/video/24vi-minn-shooting/24vi-minn-shooting-videoSixteenByNineJumbo1600.jpg)
Say this guy is a hero for having a gun at a protest:
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSdHldFyB9IQvMCaTFLYQzC68rS6CvAXXP8lQ&s)
I think the better commentary between these 2 incidents is all of the conservative officials and pundits stating that no one brings a gun to a protest if they intend to be peaceful.
Quote from: jesmu84 on January 25, 2026, 03:16:38 PMI think the better commentary between these 2 incidents is all of the conservative officials and pundits stating that no one brings a gun to a protest if they intend to be peaceful.
Counterpoint ... it's projection. They can't imagine someone bringing a gun to a protest to be peaceful because they wouldn't bring a gun to a protest to be peaceful. Like Kyle, they'd be hoping for an excuse to use it.
Quote from: Shaka Shart on January 25, 2026, 02:52:56 PMBroken clock but also is positioning herself to not be a pariah when she exits. Don't fall for it
Oh I don't trust her at all. But if she reaches even 1% of her base it's a small win
Quote from: MU82 on January 25, 2026, 01:32:21 PMThere is no end to the right-wingnuts' hypocrisy.
Hypocrisy has become their operating system
Quote from: BM1090 on January 25, 2026, 03:42:49 PMOh I don't trust her at all. But if she reaches even 1% of her base it's a small win
does she even have a base anymore?
The Daily Caller has an article somewhere about Minnesota's AG being on record as opposing guns at protests. So that settles it, right? It was the victim's fault. Case closed. ::)
Quote from: CreightonWarrior on January 25, 2026, 04:56:48 PMdoes she even have a base anymore?
She has 5 million followers and her post has 21K likes and 5.1K other interactions. So yes.
Obviously not all her base, but there's some there. And she gets a ton of online visibility.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on January 25, 2026, 05:14:29 PMThe Daily Caller has an article somewhere about Minnesota's AG being on record as opposing guns at protests.
Or, better put, court records show MN's looney AG along with many other blue AGs argued this.
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ca9.1862ff85-768c-4f01-8cad-d60381885b24/gov.uscourts.ca9.1862ff85-768c-4f01-8cad-d60381885b24.26.0.pdf#page12
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 25, 2026, 06:37:50 PMOr, better put, court records show MN's looney AG along with many other blue AGs argued this.
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ca9.1862ff85-768c-4f01-8cad-d60381885b24/gov.uscourts.ca9.1862ff85-768c-4f01-8cad-d60381885b24.26.0.pdf#page12
'He was right that guns are bad' is growth from you.
Quote from: GB Warrior on January 25, 2026, 06:40:40 PM'He was right that guns are bad' is growth from you.
Never said anything of the sort.
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 25, 2026, 06:37:50 PMOr, better put, court records show MN's looney AG along with many other blue AGs argued this.
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ca9.1862ff85-768c-4f01-8cad-d60381885b24/gov.uscourts.ca9.1862ff85-768c-4f01-8cad-d60381885b24.26.0.pdf#page12
Thank you for bringing this to my attention JayBee. The effin' demonstrator is in the morgue, so what's done is done. The blue state AGs need to step up and take responsibility for the unpleasantries.
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 25, 2026, 06:37:50 PMOr, better put, court records show MN's looney AG along with many other blue AGs argued this.
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ca9.1862ff85-768c-4f01-8cad-d60381885b24/gov.uscourts.ca9.1862ff85-768c-4f01-8cad-d60381885b24.26.0.pdf#page12
Not sure what exactly your point is?
Quote from: jficke13 on January 25, 2026, 08:55:27 PMNot sure what exactly your point is?
The peaceful protester with the legal, holstered gun deserved to be murdered in cold blood by Der Fuhrer's Gestapo?
Quote from: jficke13 on January 25, 2026, 08:55:27 PMNot sure what exactly your point is?
I was noting that the poster's claim about "
The Daily Caller has an article somewhere" was actually evidenced by court records; the poster was trying to discredit the source. I was noting that it's real.. not just some 'article somewhere'.
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 25, 2026, 09:40:08 PMI was noting that the poster's claim about "The Daily Caller has an article somewhere" was actually evidenced by court records; the poster was trying to discredit the source. I was noting that it's real.. not just some 'article somewhere'.
Ah, but not using the existence of the amicus brief to imply anything meaningful regarding the current situation.
Roger that.
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 25, 2026, 09:40:08 PMI was noting that the poster's claim about "The Daily Caller has an article somewhere" was actually evidenced by court records; the poster was trying to discredit the source. I was noting that it's real.. not just some 'article somewhere'.
Nope. Discrediting
you. Or perhaps I should say lack of any sense of Christian empathy, since your faith seems so important to you. It was murder. That's what's
real. Your M.O. was to change the subject. It's as if you are saying "Let's talk about
this..". Leave the art of subject switching to the pros.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on January 25, 2026, 10:42:37 PMNope. Discrediting you. Or perhaps I should say lack of any sense of Christian empathy, since your faith seems so important to you. It was murder. That's what's real. Your M.O. was to change the subject. It's as if you are saying "Let's talk about this..". Leave the art of subject switching to the pros.
It's not Christianity as taught in the bible, certainly not New Testament stuff at least. It's militant fascist Christianity more akin to the Crusades.
It's how you have people here defending murder and kidnapping by posting a bible passage. It's how you have people trying to use their religion as a force field to shield themselves from the decidedly unChrist-like violence, mayhem, murder, and hate that they continue to support.
It's how they tell themselves they are a good person while supporting shooting peaceful people in the face, or in the back 10 times, zip-tying 5-year-olds, dragging grandfathers into the snow in bathrobes and slippers, and violently assaulting thousands of people.
Creating scapegoats out of the weak and powerless; rounding up "enemies" of the State; putting them into concertation camps; using the power of the State to persecute resistors. There is absolutely ZERO difference between them and Germans that supported Hitler in the late 1930's while proclaiming "Got Mit Uns".
Agree. I was going to add the "Got Mit Uns" to this post, but then I saw that you already had it at the end.
I am a student of history, not a historian (huge difference!) and I see so many parallels between Nazism and what is happening in our country.
I'm tired of winning.
Quote from: tower912 on January 26, 2026, 11:28:18 AMI'm tired of winning.
If this is "being the hottest," I'm glad I've never been called that.
MADISON, Wis. (AP) — A lawyer for the immigration officer who shot and killed Renee Good dropped out of the Minnesota governor race Monday, breaking with many fellow Republicans and calling President Donald Trump's immigration operation in the state an "unmitigated disaster."
Chris Madel's surprise move comes amid growing calls from Republicans to investigate federal immigration tactics in Minnesota after a U.S. Border Patrol agent fatally shot Alex Pretti in Minneapolis on Saturday.
Madel went a step further than most Republicans in his video, saying that while he supports the goal of deporting "the worst of the worst" from Minnesota, he thinks the Trump administration's immigration enforcement operation in the Twin Cities has gone too far.
"I cannot support the national Republicans' stated retribution on the citizens of our state," Madel said. "Nor can I count myself a member of a party that would do so."
https://apnews.com/article/minnesota-gop-gubernatorial-candidate-pretti-drops-out-25d959e743b676934219e4effabaf3cc?
Quote from: MU82 on January 26, 2026, 02:48:07 PMMADISON, Wis. (AP) — A lawyer for the immigration officer who shot and killed Renee Good dropped out of the Minnesota governor race Monday, breaking with many fellow Republicans and calling President Donald Trump's immigration operation in the state an "unmitigated disaster."
Chris Madel's surprise move comes amid growing calls from Republicans to investigate federal immigration tactics in Minnesota after a U.S. Border Patrol agent fatally shot Alex Pretti in Minneapolis on Saturday.
Madel went a step further than most Republicans in his video, saying that while he supports the goal of deporting "the worst of the worst" from Minnesota, he thinks the Trump administration's immigration enforcement operation in the Twin Cities has gone too far.
"I cannot support the national Republicans' stated retribution on the citizens of our state," Madel said. "Nor can I count myself a member of a party that would do so."
https://apnews.com/article/minnesota-gop-gubernatorial-candidate-pretti-drops-out-25d959e743b676934219e4effabaf3cc?
RINO
Smell ya later, Bovino (aka, the worst Greg since Marmalard).
Top Border Patrol official Gregory Bovino and some of his agents are expected to leave Minneapolis on Tuesday and return to their respective sectors, according to three sources familiar the discussions, sidelining a key player in the Trump administration's immigration crackdown.
https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/26/politics/gregory-bovino-minnneapolis-exit-ice
Quote from: Shaka Shart on January 26, 2026, 03:28:59 PMRINO
He obviously hates America and the Constitution. Pinko commie bastard.
Quote from: Pakuni on January 26, 2026, 04:00:25 PMSmell ya later, Bovino (aka, the worst Greg since Marmalard).
Top Border Patrol official Gregory Bovino and some of his agents are expected to leave Minneapolis on Tuesday and return to their respective sectors, according to three sources familiar the discussions, sidelining a key player in the Trump administration's immigration crackdown.
https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/26/politics/gregory-bovino-minnneapolis-exit-ice
somebody is getting a promotion. >:(
Going into the protest oppressor portal. Iran saw how he treats protesters and is recruiting him.
The people running our country, ladies and gentlemen:
https://x.com/KatieMiller/status/2015780976320798888?s=20
Quote from: Pakuni on January 26, 2026, 05:20:18 PMThe people running our country, ladies and gentlemen:
https://x.com/KatieMiller/status/2015780976320798888?s=20
when you are feeling down and think your life sucks, remember you could be willingly sleeping with Stephen Miller because that's the best you could do.
https://x.com/YAppelbaum/status/2015932258083799324?s=20
Quote from: Pakuni on January 26, 2026, 04:00:25 PMSmell ya later, Bovino (aka, the worst Greg since Marmalard).
Top Border Patrol official Gregory Bovino and some of his agents are expected to leave Minneapolis on Tuesday and return to their respective sectors, according to three sources familiar the discussions, sidelining a key player in the Trump administration's immigration crackdown.
https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/26/politics/gregory-bovino-minnneapolis-exit-ice
Fake news. Lies!
https://x.com/_Britt_Martinez/status/2015937605792067616
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on January 26, 2026, 05:30:10 PMwhen you are feeling down and think your life sucks, remember you could be willingly sleeping with Stephen Miller because that's the best you could do.
Not sure how you want to judge whether this is an "improvement" but it's been widely confirmed that she's sleeping with Elon musk
Internal polling must be next-level bad.
One nazi gone, several thousand to go.
Yeah, Homan is gonna replace Bovino in Minny. We'll see if it's not just "second jerk, same as the first."
Meanwhile, from the NYT ...
"You're not addressing the problem by throwing a 500-pound gorilla into these inner cities." - Oscar Hagelsieb, a retired immigration officer and special agent.
Hagelsieb said he voted three times for Trump but is now feeling anger and despair about the administration's deployment of his former agency, saying: "It's completely unfair to the agents who have been put in this position."
I mean, he told you exactly what he was gonna do, including being a dictator. But welcome to finally seeing the light.
I wonder why there aren't massive movements to fire everyone, and websites doxxing anyone that posted something negative about Alex Pretti, or said he deserved to die?
Quote from: forgetful on January 26, 2026, 11:21:01 PMI wonder why there aren't massive movements to fire everyone, and websites doxxing anyone that posted something negative about Alex Pretti, or said he deserved to die?
Because this time, theres literally zero argument. The midget nazi and the botox queen both tried, and failed miserably. The backlash from their followers was immense. Even JB has mostly shut up.
I guess I should also mention that there was nothing they could morally find wrong with Pretti.
Quote from: #UnleashJosh on January 27, 2026, 12:57:01 AMBecause this time, theres literally zero argument. The midget nazi and the botox queen both tried, and failed miserably. The backlash from their followers was immense. Even JB has mostly shut up.
I guess I should also mention that there was nothing they could morally find wrong with Pretti.
Trans - Nope
AWFL - Nope
Gay - Nope
Antifa - Nope
Minority - Nope
Unemployed grifter - nope
Immigrant - nope
anti-gun activist - nope
career criminal - nope
Damn, what do we have to slander him? Bueller? Bueller?
From OpenAI CEO Sam Altman, a supporter of the current White House occupant:
I love the US and its values of democracy and freedom and will be supportive of the country however I can; OpenAI will too. But part of loving the country is the American duty to push back against overreach. What's happening with ICE is going too far. There is a big difference between deporting violent criminals and what's happening now, and we need to get the distinction right.
Like Homan is an upgrade. How much are they bribing him to go there? And the MAGA right is calling Homan another TACO moment.
To borrow from the legendary curse, we certainly are living in interesting times.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on January 27, 2026, 08:20:59 AMTrans - Nope
AWFL - Nope
Gay - Nope
Antifa - Nope
Minority - Nope
Unemployed grifter - nope
Immigrant - nope
anti-gun activist - nope
career criminal - nope
Damn, what do we have to slander him? Bueller? Bueller?
Well, Miller is calling him an "assassin," and several of the Fourth Reich's hierarchy are calling him a "terrorist."
damn, I never could have imagnined the how deep the right would have to dig to find justfication for the murder: "he should have stayed at home."
https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/2016012733850808378
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on January 27, 2026, 08:20:59 AMTrans - Nope
AWFL - Nope
Gay - Nope
Antifa - Nope
Minority - Nope
Unemployed grifter - nope
Immigrant - nope
anti-gun activist - nope
career criminal - nope
Damn, what do we have to slander him? Bueller? Bueller?
Just wait until Kash finds what was engraved on the bullets.
Difficult to watch, but the best, most revealing, frame-by-frame analysis of what really happened in the Gestapo's latest murder:
https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/100000010668660/new-video-analysis-reveals-flawed-and-fatal-decisions-in-shooting-of-pretti.html?
Quote from: MU82 on January 27, 2026, 09:26:51 AMDifficult to watch, but the best, most revealing, frame-by-frame analysis of what really happened in the Gestapo's latest murder:
https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/100000010668660/new-video-analysis-reveals-flawed-and-fatal-decisions-in-shooting-of-pretti.html?
No chance that they cant give up these two. Its going to go very very bad for those two and Kristi in the next few days.
Quote from: #UnleashJosh on January 27, 2026, 09:35:09 AMNo chance that they cant give up these two. Its going to go very very bad for those two and Kristi in the next few days.
If Kristi gets fired, she will be spending more time screwing with her multiple MAGA guys instead of screwing protesters.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on January 27, 2026, 08:40:27 AMdamn, I never could have imagnined the how deep the right would have to dig to find justfication for the murder: "he should have stayed at home."
https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/2016012733850808378
This is giving her "at least they are assaulting 15 year olds and not 8 year olds" take as Worst Take of the Year a run for its money.
Quote from: cheebs09 on January 27, 2026, 09:56:45 AMThis is giving her "at least they are assaulting 15 year olds and not 8 year olds" take as Worst Take of the Year a run for its money.
Just another right wing skank doing her skank thing.
These people are simply sociopaths and narcissists crying out for attention. Why society listens to these defective human beings is beyond me.
Quote from: cheebs09 on January 27, 2026, 09:56:45 AMThis is giving her "at least they are assaulting 15 year olds and not 8 year olds" take as Worst Take of the Year a run for its money.
And yet nothing will be worse than this one:
"And by the way, for all you kids watching at home, Santa just is white. But this person is just arguing that maybe we should also have a black Santa, but Santa is what he is, and just so you know, we're just debating this 'cause someone wrote about it, kids."
She compared the issue to that of the portrayal of Jesus.
"Just because it makes you feel uncomfortable doesn't mean it has to change," she said. "Jesus was a white man, too... He was a historical figure, that's a verifiable fact, as is Santa. I just want the kids watching to know that."
Tangentially related....
ICE agents are going to be the personal protection for Rubio and Vance during Olympics in Italy?
What happened to the secret service?
Quote from: jesmu84 on January 27, 2026, 12:00:02 PMTangentially related....
ICE agents are going to be the personal protection for Rubio and Vance during Olympics in Italy?
What happened to the secret service?
The ICE agents will have a great chance to make some money in Italy. They're going to make a killing.
Quote from: jesmu84 on January 27, 2026, 12:00:02 PMTangentially related....
ICE agents are going to be the personal protection for Rubio and Vance during Olympics in Italy?
What happened to the secret service?
If we're looking for historical comparisons, ICE is less of a law enforcement agency and more of a closely-controlled paramilitary or personalist strong man faction. The deployment and expansion of their use and roles shows the degree to which the current regime prioritizes personal loyalty above all other considerations. ICE owes its sweeping remit, vastly expanded budget, and perhaps most importantly, the promise of immunity from any consequences (i.e. even if not shielded from investigation then the expectation of presidential pardon) to the regime. Therefore, they have (at least as the regime sees it) every incentive to be perfectly loyal.
Independent agencies or branches of state power like the secret service don't have that same buy in.
Is it smart to prioritize loyalty over everything and to assume that a personalist paramilitary faction will remain loyal? Eh, maybe don't tell the regime to google "history of the Praetorian Guard"
The Italians are unhappy. Probably are doing a little better at remembering the lessons of history and wish to avoid occupation by the brown shirts.
Quote from: jesmu84 on January 27, 2026, 12:00:02 PMTangentially related....
ICE agents are going to be the personal protection for Rubio and Vance during Olympics in Italy?
What happened to the secret service?
Simple, the S.S. is investigatin Democrats.
Quote from: tower912 on January 27, 2026, 01:28:27 PMThe Italians are unhappy. Probably are doing a little better at remembering the lessons of history and wish to avoid occupation by the brown shirts.
I spend a lot of time in Italy.
My claim to authority.
They remember WWII, to them it's recent and personal.
The Nazi SS, not our SS, took over a local convent and turned it into a prison for partisans, jews, and other undesirable Italians.
They talk about frequently. Bergamo Italy, check it out.
Quote from: jficke13 on January 27, 2026, 12:14:36 PMIf we're looking for historical comparisons, ICE is less of a law enforcement agency and more of a closely-controlled paramilitary or personalist strong man faction. The deployment and expansion of their use and roles shows the degree to which the current regime prioritizes personal loyalty above all other considerations. ICE owes its sweeping remit, vastly expanded budget, and perhaps most importantly, the promise of immunity from any consequences (i.e. even if not shielded from investigation then the expectation of presidential pardon) to the regime. Therefore, they have (at least as the regime sees it) every incentive to be perfectly loyal.
Independent agencies or branches of state power like the secret service don't have that same buy in.
Is it smart to prioritize loyalty over everything and to assume that a personalist paramilitary faction will remain loyal? Eh, maybe don't tell the regime to google "history of the Praetorian Guard"
Thanks for sharing.
The commander in chief freed the January 6th insurrectionists and then hired them into his goon squad.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on January 27, 2026, 12:07:38 PMThe ICE agents will have a great chance to make some money in Italy. They're going to make a killing.
They have NO IDEA how Italy deals with criminals. It could be very interesting, the Carabinieri vs. the January 6th Confederates, stand by.
Very interesting, masked men with body armor, assault weapons, ammunition, gas masks, vs. women, and ICU nurses.
Last week we had a demonstration here in Wilmington N.C., no Hispanics, Black's, or Police.
I'm a New Yorker from New Jersey, I'm here for two months. I have seen only one MAGA license plate. No bumper stickers, flags, hats, or paraphernalia in support of our president, and its North Carolina.
Oh, and changing the local commander in Minnesota does not solve the problem. The so-called commander in chief is the problem. FOX News is a symptom of the problem. Hypocrisy is the probleml
Quote from: Pakuni on January 26, 2026, 04:00:25 PMSmell ya later, Bovino (aka, the worst Greg since Marmalard).
Top Border Patrol official Gregory Bovino and some of his agents are expected to leave Minneapolis on Tuesday and return to their respective sectors, according to three sources familiar the discussions, sidelining a key player in the Trump administration's immigration crackdown.
https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/26/politics/gregory-bovino-minnneapolis-exit-ice
The only "key player" is named Trump.
I am well aware that at the top, the ICE action is political. But try not to get this topic locked guys.
I don't think a "changing of the guard" in MN is enough. The "guard" needs to be mostly gone immediately, with the remaining law enforcement officers working with the state for actual dangerous criminals. Enough with the ICE agitators!
https://x.com/OfTheBraveUSA/status/2016237079575871946?s=20
Quote from: vogue65 on January 27, 2026, 01:43:38 PMI spend a lot of time in Italy.
My claim to authority.
They remember WWII, to them it's recent and personal.
The Nazi SS, not our SS, took over a local convent and turned it into a prison for partisans, jews, and other undesirable Italians.
They talk about frequently. Bergamo Italy, check it out.
We have an office with 6 employees in Gazzaniga. My wife and I spent the last day of our trip to Italy visiting the office and having lunch with everyone, and then one of the employees spent the afternoon with us in Bergamo teaching us about the city's history before we had dinner with her and another employee. Very interesting stuff. She showed us where all the bodies that were lining the streets during COVID was as well.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on January 27, 2026, 02:15:22 PMI am well aware that at the top, the ICE action is political. But try not to get this topic locked guys.
lol. It's safe from getting locked as long as they keep it super leftist.
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 27, 2026, 02:48:56 PMlol. It's safe from getting locked as long as they keep it super leftist.
I suggest you re-examine my lock history.
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 27, 2026, 02:48:56 PMlol. It's safe from getting locked as long as they keep it super leftist.
I don't know what you're smokin' JayBee, but
damn! It must be some really good sh!t.
Protestors tried to get cute out here in the suburbs last night.. apparently they believed Bovino was staying at a hotel a half mile from me, so they caused a ruckus outside.. the police arrested several weirdos.
I was going to order pick-up from a restaurant across the street last night when this was going on.. glad I didn't. I lived through riots in Minneapolis while living downtown.. not fun. Apparently some property damage here last night, but nothing too crazy as the police shut sh1t down.
https://www.kare11.com/article/news/local/ice-in-minnesota/multiple-people-arrested-for-protesting-outside-bovinos-maple-grove-hotel/89-f3ec1462-271f-4bb4-8371-f4b070aecfd3
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 27, 2026, 02:57:18 PMProtestors tried to get cute out here in the suburbs last night.. apparently they believed Bovino was staying at a hotel a half mile from me, so they caused a ruckus outside.. the police arrested several weirdos.
ICE officers were staying in the hotel, and obviously very professional and respectful
https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:74lqtzlqfqg35g4dyys7ges3/post/3mdesmouu4c22
Protesters were outside of Bovino's hotel last night, demonstrating against the leader of the murderous ICE agents who executed Alex Pretti, a man who they considered a dangerous weirdo aka protester. Some of them hurled objects at the police and were arrested, as they likely expected and deserved to be.
There was some property damage, but no one was murdered by the ICE agents. Fortunately for the protesters, the police rather than ICE agents handled the situation, which dramatically reduced the likelihood of another protester being murdered.
Edit: Time to admit that I might have put just a little bit of a spin on this.
Quote from: wadesworld on January 27, 2026, 02:40:00 PMWe have an office with 6 employees in Gazzaniga. My wife and I spent the last day of our trip to Italy visiting the office and having lunch with everyone, and then one of the employees spent the afternoon with us in Bergamo teaching us about the city's history before we had dinner with her and another employee. Very interesting stuff. She showed us where all the bodies that were lining the streets during COVID was as well.
The new hospital, we call it socialized medicine, I call it Christian medicine, they call it medicine is over the top good. I was there once and can report, first hand it being superior to the best hospital in New Jersey. But then, what do I know. Glad you enjoyed Bergamo.
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 27, 2026, 02:48:56 PMlol. It's safe from getting locked as long as they keep it super leftist.
I haven't seen anything leftist in here. I keep my leftist, "shoot nazis, shoot cops," opinions to myself on scoop because they'd probably be unpopular.
I'm not saying I'm saying that. I'm saying I'm not saying that.
Mod's mom is a ho
Quote from: Skatastrophy on January 27, 2026, 04:34:57 PMMod's mom is a ho
Whoa! The furthest I'm going is one of those "your moma's so fat ...jokes.
His mama's so fat that when she hauls ass, she has to make two trips!"
I just want to say that I'm inspired and impressed by the people of the Twin Cities who are not willing to be intimidated by an out-of-control, authoritarian regime.
As we unfortunately have seen, these courageous patriots are literally putting their lives on the line in an effort to preserve basic human rights, decency, life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness in their little corner of our constitutional republic.
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 27, 2026, 02:57:18 PMProtestors tried to get cute out here in the suburbs last night.. apparently they believed Bovino was staying at a hotel a half mile from me, so they caused a ruckus outside.. the police arrested several weirdos.
I was going to order pick-up from a restaurant across the street last night when this was going on.. glad I didn't. I lived through riots in Minneapolis while living downtown.. not fun. Apparently some property damage here last night, but nothing too crazy as the police shut sh1t down.
https://www.kare11.com/article/news/local/ice-in-minnesota/multiple-people-arrested-for-protesting-outside-bovinos-maple-grove-hotel/89-f3ec1462-271f-4bb4-8371-f4b070aecfd3
Having lived through the riots and destruction in Portland (I could hear gunshots and see smoke from my living room), there are lines I draw when it comes to protesting. If the protesters were simply outside of the hotel, I don't see an issue, but if they tried to get inside (private property), involved in property damage, or were harassing and threatening guests and staff, then, IMO, they are fair game for arrest...without violence.
That the local police force was involved last night, not ICE, is likely why there were no beatings, shootings, or deaths of any protesters.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on January 27, 2026, 02:51:06 PMI don't know what you're smokin' JayBee, but damn! It must be some really good sh!t.
As long as we are talking sensitive WWII populations, Poles
I remember the protests in April of 2020 at the Michigan state Capitol. When it was OK for angry protesters to enter the Capitol building and parade around the grounds with their semi-automatic weapons. I imagine that some of them got a haircut, took a shower, and joined ICE.
Compare and contrast.
A fun Google. 2020 Michigan Capitol protest.
Quote from: Skatastrophy on January 27, 2026, 04:34:57 PMMod's mom is a ho
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on January 27, 2026, 04:45:50 PMHis mama's so fat that when she hauls ass, she has to make two trips!"
Those kinds of words would make flyer so mad he wouldn't post for at least
4 hours!
Quote from: Shaka Shart on January 27, 2026, 04:56:03 PMAs long as we are talking sensitive WWII populations, Poles
I think Ryan Poles deserves all the criticism he gets for the Bears contributions to WW2
Their idiocy knows no limits.
https://x.com/AP/status/2016312764902277575?s=20
Quote from: Pakuni on January 27, 2026, 07:54:55 PMTheir idiocy knows no limits.
Probably just thought they were dropping a detainee off at a prison. Innocent mistake, I'm sure...
Quote from: rocky_warrior on January 27, 2026, 08:07:08 PMProbably just thought they were dropping a detainee off at a prison. Innocent mistake, I'm sure...
Scoop has gone woke wow
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 27, 2026, 02:48:56 PMlol. It's safe from getting locked as long as they keep it super leftist.
At the risk of getting the thread locked, I'm sticking with my super leftist position of "nazis are bad".
Tim Cook taking the brave stance that public executions by America's Gestapo are wrong.
This, after having attended the screening for the Melania film just hours after the Gestapo publicly executed Alex Pretti.
Quote from: MU82 on January 28, 2026, 08:26:37 AMTim Cook taking the brave stance that public executions by America's Gestapo are wrong.
This, after having attended the screening for the Melania film just hours after the Gestapo publicly executed Alex Pretti.
He knows he's bulletproof as the Apple cult will never abandon their precious iPhones and AirPods, and what matters to him is the bottom line.
Quote from: MU82 on January 28, 2026, 08:26:37 AMTim Cook taking the brave stance that public executions by America's Gestapo are wrong.
This, after having attended the screening for the Melania film just hours after the Gestapo publicly executed Alex Pretti.
I hear you Mike, but I like that the condemnations are beginning to include a wide swath of opinions that Rocky doesn't want us to talk about. Americans have not had an issue that has drawn us together to at least
some extent (
I know...many others have kneejerk "opinions") but it took the lives of two people for it to happen. :'(
uh oh, a liberal activist judge is going to be in charge of the investigation in Minnesota.
https://www.politico.com/news/2026/01/27/patrick-schiltz-judge-minneapolis-ice-00750030
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on January 28, 2026, 11:12:32 AMuh oh, a liberal activist judge is going to be in charge of the investigation in Minnesota.
https://www.politico.com/news/2026/01/27/patrick-schiltz-judge-minneapolis-ice-00750030
C'mon man! Don't tempt Rocky. He made it clear that he has the handle of ban hammer clutched in his gnarly fist.
https://x.com/i/status/2016206689482035484
https://x.com/i/status/2015973711187231035
https://x.com/i/status/2016270135548403944
The murders will continue until morale improves.
According to the NYT, the idea to replace Bovino with Homan came from Fox & Friends, specifically Brian Kilmeade.
Quote from: MU82 on January 28, 2026, 01:04:15 PMAccording to the NYT, the idea to replace Bovino with Homan came from Fox & Friends, specifically Brian Kilmeade.
I have a pretty good idea of what he thinks we should do with protestors.
Quote from: jesmu84 on January 28, 2026, 11:55:43 AMhttps://x.com/i/status/2016206689482035484
https://x.com/i/status/2015973711187231035
https://x.com/i/status/2016270135548403944
The murders will continue until morale improves.
Where's Che when we need him?
https://x.com/theinsiderpaper/status/2016619947183788110?s=46&t=lNpN7iXqtrMrr3jfOK2gbA
If true, he obviously deserved to get executed by the Gestapo 2 weeks later.
Quote from: MU82 on January 28, 2026, 01:04:15 PMAccording to the NYT, the idea to replace Bovino with Homan came from Fox & Friends, specifically Brian Kilmeade.
Not exactly surprising given the U.S. government is mostly Fux & Friends at this point
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 28, 2026, 03:58:39 PMhttps://x.com/theinsiderpaper/status/2016619947183788110?s=46&t=lNpN7iXqtrMrr3jfOK2gbA
LOL. If true, BJ thinks this deserves 10 bullets in the back. What a unnatural carnal knowledgewit.
But it's definitely true that those Jews in 1938 had it coming for resisting the Nazis.
JB, what does the coward who attacked representave Omar deserve?
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 28, 2026, 03:58:39 PMhttps://x.com/theinsiderpaper/status/2016619947183788110?s=46&t=lNpN7iXqtrMrr3jfOK2gbA
I've done more than that to cops and I wasn't murdered in the street
But go off, bootlicker
Edit: The internet is calling it an AI video. Since the source seems to be Russia Times and trump jr, I suppose I shouldn't be surprised
Quote from: tower912 on January 28, 2026, 04:49:12 PMJB, what does the coward who attacked representave Omar deserve?
Whatever the prearranged comp was between him and her.
Quote from: Skatastrophy on January 28, 2026, 04:49:37 PMI've done more than that to cops and I wasn't murdered in the street
But go off, bootlicker
So, was this a targeted assassination then if the ICE agents were upset at this?
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 28, 2026, 03:58:39 PMhttps://x.com/theinsiderpaper/status/2016619947183788110?s=46&t=lNpN7iXqtrMrr3jfOK2gbA
Thanks for establishing motive.
Quote from: Pakuni on January 28, 2026, 05:07:09 PMThanks for establishing motive.
Yep. But first of all....
not confirmed it
was him and secondly, if it was, I think that ICE would have broadcast this
right after imposing the death sentence.
It
may be him, but why assume that it is?
Why cant the trump party ever admit their wrong lol? From the white house to JB, these dudes just double and triple down. Whats so hard for JB to say "Wow, that was a really messed up thing that those two ICE agents did"
Like you can be wrong once or twice. Its okay.
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 28, 2026, 03:58:39 PMhttps://x.com/theinsiderpaper/status/2016619947183788110?s=46&t=lNpN7iXqtrMrr3jfOK2gbA
Case in point on the doubling down.
So what? Does any of that justify murdering him two weeks later?
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 28, 2026, 04:53:19 PMWhatever the prearranged comp was between him and her.
Thanks, J.D.
Quote from: #UnleashJosh on January 28, 2026, 05:53:08 PMWhy cant the trump party ever admit their wrong lol? From the white house to JB, these dudes just double and triple down. Whats so hard for JB to say "Wow, that was a really messed up thing that those two ICE agents did"
Like you can be wrong once or twice. Its okay.
Maybe he supports it.
https://x.com/walterhudson/status/2016365319216853122?s=46&t=lNpN7iXqtrMrr3jfOK2gbA
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 28, 2026, 07:17:51 PMhttps://x.com/walterhudson/status/2016365319216853122?s=46&t=lNpN7iXqtrMrr3jfOK2gbA
Lol
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 28, 2026, 04:53:19 PMWhatever the prearranged comp was between him and her.
Somehow I don't think this pasty MAGAt could pre-arrange unzipping his pants in order to take a piss.
(https://images2.imgbox.com/e0/03/MO0HGA4l_o.png) (https://imgbox.com/MO0HGA4l)
"Trump, a Republican, "wants the US is stronger and more prosperous," Kazmierczak wrote. "Stop other countries from stealing from us. Bring back the fear that enemies back away from and gain respect that If anyone threatens ourselves or friends we will [expletive] them up."
In another post, Kazmierczak asked, "When will descendants of slaves pay restitution to Union soldiers families for freeing them/dying for them, and not sending them back to Africa?"
Following the fatal shooting of conservative activist Charlie Kirk in September, Kazmierczak for a time changed his profile picture on Facebook to an AP photo of Trump embracing Kirk's widow, Erika Kirk."
https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2026-01-28/man-arrested-in-attack-on-ilhan-omar-is-convicted-felon-who-made-pro-trump-posts
Quote from: wadesworld on January 28, 2026, 07:19:15 PMLol
Somehow these people are unaware that cell phone cameras exist and that we've all seen the footage from 4 different angles.
"charge into a to law enforcement operation" hahahaha. JB hasn't watched the videos.
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on January 28, 2026, 07:28:59 PMSomehow I don't think this pasty MAGAt could pre-arrange unzipping his pants in order to take a piss
Look further.
You also thought/think a woman was shot after simply dropping her kid off at school and getting trapped in traffic. You also thought/think a male nurse was simply killed after buying a donut and being attacked.
Cool AI slop video, JB.
Oh and thanks for sharing the new angle justifying the Pretti murder. Almost word for word what Bovino said during his interview. Looks like the new script has been sent to everyone now.
Oh, and the quick reaction to explain the Omar attack. Ironically also the same reaction spread like wildfire almost a portion of the online community
Quote from: rocky_warrior on January 28, 2026, 07:44:54 PM"charge into a to law enforcement operation" hahahaha. JB hasn't watched the videos.
I'm simply sharing content. Don't take links I post to be more than information sharing.
But, Pretti absolutely did posture up and made contact with law enforcement on the day of his unfortunate death.
Not nearly as aggressive and bad as the earlier incident appears to have been, but still factual.
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 28, 2026, 07:46:43 PMLook further.
You also thought/think a woman was shot after simply dropping her kid off at school and getting trapped in traffic. You also thought/think a male nurse was simply killed after buying a donut and being attacked.
You realize he was murdered on a completely different day, right?
You can believe what your eyes see. Hilarious that people like you used to use "sheep" as an insult. You are the sheep!
Quote from: wadesworld on January 28, 2026, 07:51:26 PMYou realize he was murdered on a completely different day, right?
You can believe what your eyes see. Hilarious that people like you used to use "sheep" as an insult. You are the sheep!
Every accusation is a confession
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 28, 2026, 07:51:11 PMI'm simply sharing content. Don't take links I post to be more than information sharing.
But, Pretti absolutely did posture up and made contact with law enforcement on the day of his unfortunate death.
Not nearly as aggressive and bad as the earlier incident appears to have been, but still factual.
Posture up? lol. Stepping in between a Proud Boy battering a woman is "posturing up?" You boxing is a funny thought, given this.
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 28, 2026, 07:51:11 PMthe day of his unfortunate death.
You mean the day he was murdered in cold blood.
OT -
JB actually makes a really good demonstration here.
We desperately need watermarks or logos on anything that is AI generated.
And there need to be severe punishment for any governmental or corporate entity who uses AI content without labeling as such.
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 28, 2026, 07:51:11 PMI'm simply sharing content. Don't take links I post to be more than information sharing.
But, Pretti absolutely did posture up and made contact with law enforcement on the day of his unfortunate death.
Not nearly as aggressive and bad as the earlier incident appears to have been, but still factual.
"I'm just asking questions"
Quote from: wadesworld on January 28, 2026, 07:51:26 PMYou realize he was murdered on a completely different day, right?
Absolutely. His criminal and aggressive actions days before didn't give a green light to treat him any differently many days later.
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 28, 2026, 04:53:19 PMWhatever the prearranged comp was between him and her.
Michael Tracey
@mtracey
7h
Ideally, everyone who instantly declared the Ilhan Omar incident "staged," based on absolutely nothing, would be disregarded in the future as total morons, but that's not how these things work. There's always a Low IQ market for declaring everything staged, fake, False Flag, etc
Quote from: Mutaman on January 28, 2026, 07:56:31 PMMichael Tracey
@mtracey
7h
Ideally, everyone who instantly declared the Ilhan Omar incident "staged," based on absolutely nothing, would be disregarded in the future as total morons, but that's not how these things work. There's always a Low IQ market for declaring everything staged, fake, False Flag, etc
I have personal knowledge about her as a person. Maybe that influences my thought and I don't know if it was staged. However, I believe it likely was. Let's chill and toast with a glass of wine from her winery!
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 28, 2026, 07:58:33 PMchill and toast with a glass of wine from her winery!
^^^^
Supports a felon that sells a $6000 bottle of vodka.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on January 28, 2026, 08:02:34 PM^^^^
Supports a felon that sells a $6000 bottle of vodka.
Plus a phone, watch, crapcoin, etc etc etc
Quote from: rocky_warrior on January 28, 2026, 08:02:34 PM^^^^
Supports a felon that sells a $6000 bottle of vodka.
I honestly don't know what you're talking about, but likely just more false accusations? Who is this felon I support and how do I support him/her/ze/bun?
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 28, 2026, 08:06:18 PMI honestly don't know what you're talking about, but likely just more false accusations? Who is this felon I support and how do I support him/her/ze/bun?
The ol' Mike Johnson "I haven't heard about that" defense.
Classic.
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 28, 2026, 08:06:18 PMWho is this felon I support
You should do your own research. Hahahaha
Quote from: rocky_warrior on January 28, 2026, 08:07:57 PMYou should do your own research. Hahahaha
Why? I'm not in the market for vodka, much less $6k vodka.
Is this a Trump thing? As I've said before, I've never voted for Trump and never would.
Best of luck, guys. You're unable to think rationally.
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 28, 2026, 08:11:29 PMYou're unable to think rationally.
Bwahahahahaha. You're literally making me lol with your posts tonight. Such a joker.
Edit: NM too political.
In another life, Jay Bee cheered on the Ohio National Guard.
Effin' hippies.
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 28, 2026, 07:46:43 PMLook further.
You also thought/think a woman was shot after simply dropping her kid off at school and getting trapped in traffic. You also thought/think a male nurse was simply killed after buying a donut and being attacked.
Those things are frankly irrelevant. If your opinion these people were looking for confrontation then there is a remedy for that that doesn't involve shooting an American citizen in the face.
If your opinion is the govt knew of some sort of track record that's more problematic (ie a system to determine a threat with street justice).
Frankly maybe you should share the countless videos of the federal govt acting aggressively and escalating. Just Maybe that's the track record of bad behavior.
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 28, 2026, 07:58:33 PMI have personal knowledge about her as a person. Maybe that influences my thought and I don't know if it was staged. However, I believe it likely was. Let's chill and toast with a glass of wine from her winery!
You have become Chicos. Like him, you are simply a liar.
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 28, 2026, 03:58:39 PMhttps://x.com/theinsiderpaper/status/2016619947183788110?s=46&t=lNpN7iXqtrMrr3jfOK2gbA
Now do Rittenhouse you tool.
Was he arrested in that encounter? Or is ICE's only motivation to beat him up?
Quote from: Jables1604 on January 28, 2026, 09:16:34 PMNow do Rittenhouse you tool.
Please don't call me names. I'm just a male nurse trying to help people and buy a donut.
https://x.com/endwokeness/status/2016700958315593760?s=46&t=lNpN7iXqtrMrr3jfOK2gbA
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 28, 2026, 09:24:30 PMPlease don't call me names. I'm just a male nurse trying to help people and buy a donut.
https://x.com/endwokeness/status/2016700958315593760?s=46&t=lNpN7iXqtrMrr3jfOK2gbA
Survived that. Got murdered weeks later for daring to stand between a Proud Boy and the woman he was battering.
Can't wait until JB starts sharing content from Catturd.
https://x.com/crimewatchmpls/status/2016712090212294699?s=46&t=lNpN7iXqtrMrr3jfOK2gbA
Was gonna drop in on a league in downtown Mpls tonight but didn't bc I had heard this was coming.
Strangely, August 2020 was the worse I experienced in terms of dt riots. Nonetheless, it's sad. Minneapolis has been and is done.
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 28, 2026, 09:42:28 PMhttps://x.com/crimewatchmpls/status/2016712090212294699?s=46&t=lNpN7iXqtrMrr3jfOK2gbA
Was gonna drop in on a league in downtown Mpls tonight but didn't bc I had heard this was coming.
Strangely, August 2020 was the worse I experienced in terms of dt riots. Nonetheless, it's sad. Minneapolis has been and is done.
Grammar suxes
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 28, 2026, 07:58:33 PMI have personal knowledge about her as a person. Maybe that influences my thought and I don't know if it was staged. However, I believe it likely was. Let's chill and toast with a glass of wine from her winery!
"However, I believe it likely was."
"Ideally, everyone who instantly declared the Ilhan Omar incident "staged,"
based on absolutely nothing, would be disregarded in the future as total morons"
Quote from: Mutaman on January 28, 2026, 10:00:49 PM"However, I believe it likely was."
"Ideally, everyone who instantly declared the Ilhan Omar incident "staged," based on absolutely nothing, would be disregarded in the future as total morons"
Oh, it's based on a lot my boi.
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 28, 2026, 09:42:28 PMhttps://x.com/crimewatchmpls/status/2016712090212294699?s=46&t=lNpN7iXqtrMrr3jfOK2gbA
Was gonna drop in on a league in downtown Mpls tonight but didn't bc I had heard this was coming.
Strangely, August 2020 was the worse I experienced in terms of dt riots. Nonetheless, it's sad. Minneapolis has been and is done.
*worst
Quote from: TallTitan34 on January 28, 2026, 08:07:32 PMThe ol' Mike Johnson "I haven't heard about that" defense.
Classic.
Mike Johnson doesn't have time to monitor the situation. He's too busy obsessing over his son's porn habits
Quote from: Jables1604 on January 28, 2026, 09:16:34 PMNow do Rittenhouse you tool.
Please choose your words more carefully, Rittenhouse has a girlfriend and wouldn't be interested in him.
Quote from: Shaka Shart on January 29, 2026, 01:13:48 AMPlease choose your words more carefully, Rittenhouse has a girlfriend and wouldn't be interested in him.
Actually, he's married now. His wedding photos were recently making the rounds.
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSETYTKdX8GN9xZGzl1qaJbL85i_nhtqF5t4eMZn_adp9rcQINLe_z7D08&s)
Quote from: Mutaman on January 28, 2026, 10:00:49 PM"However, I believe it likely was."
"Ideally, everyone who instantly declared the Ilhan Omar incident "staged," based on absolutely nothing, would be disregarded in the future as total morons"
JB ain't waitin' for the future.
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 28, 2026, 09:24:30 PMPlease don't call me names. I'm just a male nurse trying to help people and buy a donut.
https://x.com/endwokeness/status/2016700958315593760?s=46&t=lNpN7iXqtrMrr3jfOK2gbA
sufficient evidence of premediation?
Who knew opposing state sponsored murder was "woke."
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 28, 2026, 07:46:43 PMLook further.
You also thought/think a woman was shot after simply dropping her kid off at school and getting trapped in traffic. You also thought/think a male nurse was simply killed after buying a donut and being attacked.
Yes, I did, and do, think these things. BECAUSE THERE IS FREAKING VIDEO!
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 28, 2026, 08:11:29 PMWhy? I'm not in the market for vodka, much less $6k vodka.
Is this a Trump thing? As I've said before, I've never voted for Trump and never would.
Best of luck, guys. You're unable to think rationally.
This is actually the funniest line I think ive ever read from you.
There's zero chance you didn't vote trump. Your basically a teleprompter for all of his ideas.
Brah, just say that pretti was murdered by an ice agent and move on.
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 28, 2026, 07:58:33 PMI have personal knowledge about her as a person. Maybe that influences my thought and I don't know if it was staged. However, I believe it likely was. Let's chill and toast with a glass of wine from her winery!
"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command"
The co-conspirator, according to BJ.
"Brother labels suspect who attacked Ilhan Omar a 'right-wing extremist' who has hated Somalis for decades
Exclusive: 'In my mind, he's a piece of s**t,' Anthony Kazmierczak's brother told The Independent"
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/ilhan-omar-attack-anthony-kazmierczak-brother-b2909613.html
(https://images2.imgbox.com/64/16/IYKVl5Dm_o.png) (https://imgbox.com/IYKVl5Dm)
There's literally REAL video evidence of ice agents dressing as protestors and agitating the protestors.
The white house has ai altered multiple pictures in an attempt to change the narrative.
But you believe in both paid agitators and that this attack was faked?
Got it.
Just another middle aged dude with real issues toward Represntative Omar. I guess we should be glad he didn't show up at her door in the middle of the night dressed as a cop and then shot her.
Quote from: #UnleashJosh on January 29, 2026, 08:26:43 AMThere's literally REAL video evidence of ice agents dressing as protestors and agitating the protestors.
The white house has ai altered multiple pictures in an attempt to change the narrative.
But you believe in both paid agitators and that this attack was faked?
Got it.
Please post the bolded.
Wonder if the Good and Pretti families will be in line for the Ashli Babbitt payday. I can't see any difference.
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/06/06/ashli-babbitt-trump-settlement-00392746
(https://media.tenor.com/LGASsMqPsSgAAAAM/dont-hold-your-breath-dont-count-on-it.gif)
Quote from: jesmu84 on January 28, 2026, 08:05:40 PMPlus a phone, watch, crapcoin, etc etc etc
and citizenship for illegal immigrants for the right price.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/celebrities/2026/01/28/nicki-minaj-trump-gold-card/88406161007/
Jay Bee, is there any chance that you will ever show a hint of Christian empathy for the two people who were shot? Or have you replaced the original version of Jesus with the orange version?
Too bad you went to Marquette. Liberty University is a bit less than an hour from me, and I can tell you for a fact that you would have fitted right in with them. Lynchburg has some beautiful areas, especially near the James River, but my wife and I spend 20x as much time in Charlottesville rather than deal with a city that is infested with LU grads.
Prosecute to the full extent of the law. We cannot have elected officials physically assaulted. It doesn't matter that it was "'water or vinegar". It's those things until it's not.
One's opinion of the politician does not matter if it is "right" or "wrong" to prosecute.
It doesn't matter if it was "staged" or not (I have no idea). If so, still prosecute as if it was real.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on January 29, 2026, 09:36:04 AMJay Bee, is there any chance that you will ever show a hint of Christian empathy for the two people who were shot? Or have you replaced the original version of Jesus with the orange version?
hold up. This is the same board where people have been telling jokes mocking the shooting of charlie kirk for months. Where was your soapbox for all of those people? I don't seem to remember you chastising them for a lack of empathy. Or does is only matter in this case because you align more with what they were saying.
Quote from: MU_B on January 29, 2026, 10:03:04 AMhold up. This is the same board where people have been telling jokes mocking the shooting of charlie kirk for months. Where was your soapbox for all of those people? I don't seem to remember you chastising them for a lack of empathy. Or does is only matter in this case because you align more with what they were saying.
(https://blooper0223.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/good-good-let-the-whataboutism-flow-through-you.jpg)
Quote from: Pakuni on January 29, 2026, 10:05:58 AM(https://blooper0223.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/good-good-let-the-whataboutism-flow-through-you.jpg)
I just burst out laughing in Midway. Great meme!
Quote from: MU_B on January 29, 2026, 10:03:04 AMhold up. This is the same board where people have been telling jokes mocking the shooting of charlie kirk for months. Where was your soapbox for all of those people? I don't seem to remember you chastising them for a lack of empathy. Or does is only matter in this case because you align more with what they were saying.
Hold up? Because a guy with a whopping 30 posts (who
are you, actually?) tries to go with the whataboutism route in a thread about the cold-blooded murder of Alex Pretti?
I'm pissed at Pakuni. He beat me to the charge of whataboutism. He should have give me a chance to be first, since your post was directed at me. How rude!
Edit: Either you did not read my top signature or failed to take it at face value. Many posting on this thread have opinions substantially different from mine on a number of issues.
Quote from: cheebs09 on January 29, 2026, 07:14:15 AMActually, he's married now. His wedding photos were recently making the rounds.
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSETYTKdX8GN9xZGzl1qaJbL85i_nhtqF5t4eMZn_adp9rcQINLe_z7D08&s)
A true American hero.
Quote from: MU_B on January 29, 2026, 10:03:04 AMhold up. This is the same board where people have been telling jokes mocking the shooting of charlie kirk for months. Where was your soapbox for all of those people? I don't seem to remember you chastising them for a lack of empathy. Or does is only matter in this case because you align more with what they were saying.
The difference is nobody is claiming Charlie Kirk deserved it and that his antagonizing students were a death sentence for him. Everyone agrees he shouldn't have been murdered, and everyone agrees his murderer should be prosecuted. It's not hard to say that, even if some people used his own words and now people get offended at that.
Quote from: MU_B on January 29, 2026, 10:03:04 AMhold up. This is the same board where people have been telling jokes mocking the shooting of charlie kirk for months. Where was your soapbox for all of those people? I don't seem to remember you chastising them for a lack of empathy. Or does is only matter in this case because you align more with what they were saying.
Charlie was a public figure who should be openly mocked for his despicable views on a myriad of topics. And he was while he was alive, and still is now that he's dead.
Alex was not a public figure, but his life has since made public. If you hadn't heard of Alex Pretti before he was murdered in cold blood, you'd have never known a single thing about him.
Surely, you see the difference.
Neither deserved to die, and both deserve justice. It's really that simple.
Quote from: Hards Alumni on January 29, 2026, 10:28:42 AMCharlie was a public figure who should be openly mocked for his despicable views on a myriad of topics. And he was while he was alive, and still is now that he's dead.
Alex was not a public figure, but his life has since made public. If you hadn't heard of Alex Pretti before he was murdered in cold blood, you'd have never known a single thing about him.
Neither deserved to die, and both deserve justice. It's really that simple.
Surely, you see the difference.
Surely, you jest. He doesn't.
Edit: I think I know who he really is, but I do not want to post it on scoop. PM me if you would like to hear my theory, with the understanding that it stays in the PM.
Quote from: Hards Alumni on January 29, 2026, 10:28:42 AMCharlie was a public figure who should be openly mocked for his despicable views on a myriad of topics. And he was while he was alive, and still is now that he's dead.
Alex was not a public figure, but his life has since made public. If you hadn't heard of Alex Pretti before he was murdered in cold blood, you'd have never known a single thing about him.
Surely, you see the difference.
Neither deserved to die, and both deserve justice. It's really that simple.
I'm just glad that our vice president is out there saying that anyone who makes an unkind comment about Alex Pretti or Renee Good should lose their jobs.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on January 29, 2026, 10:17:31 AMHold up? Because a guy with a whopping 30 posts (who are you, actually?) tries to go with the whataboutism route in a thread about the cold-blooded murder of Alex Pretti?
It's beyond whataboutism. One was a horrible murder carried out by a lone individual who had been steeped in gun culture and evilly saw that as a way to redress his grievances. The other is murder conducted and carried out for and by the fascist government.
Quote from: Pakuni on January 29, 2026, 10:49:27 AMI'm just glad that our vice president is out there saying that anyone who makes an unkind comment about Alex Pretti or Renee Good should lose their jobs.
Maybe he'll find time after he gets off the couch.
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on January 29, 2026, 10:55:03 AMMaybe he'll find time after he gets off the couch.
You're missing the word "on."
Disgusting people making up lies. I pray for many of you.
Gaslight
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 29, 2026, 12:16:58 PMDisgusting people making up lies. I pray for many of you.
I haven't read the entirety of 13 pages, but are you suggesting that the killing of Alex Pretti was justified in any way?
Quote from: MU_B on January 29, 2026, 10:03:04 AMhold up. This is the same board where people have been telling jokes mocking the shooting of charlie kirk for months. Where was your soapbox for all of those people? I don't seem to remember you chastising them for a lack of empathy. Or does is only matter in this case because you align more with what they were saying.
You can't even tell jokes anymore due to cancel culture run amok.
Sad.
I agree though, Charlie was rich so his life mattered more.-
Quote from: Shaka Shart on January 29, 2026, 01:16:15 PMYou can't even tell jokes anymore due to cancel culture run amok.
Sad.
Sure you can.
Quote from: tower912 on January 29, 2026, 01:25:08 PMSure you can.
Well, no.. here you can't.
https://www.twincities.com/2026/01/28/st-pauls-camp-bar-cancels-sold-out-shows-from-canadian-comic-after-he-went-viral-with-renee-good-rant/
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 29, 2026, 12:16:58 PMDisgusting people making up lies. I pray for many of you.
Please tell me that I am not one of the people you pray for. Thanks in advance.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on January 29, 2026, 01:58:15 PMPlease tell me that I am not one of the people you pray for. Thanks in advance.
I do pray for you, but it's because I feel bad that you have to wear Depends.
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 29, 2026, 02:01:53 PMI do pray for you, but it's because I feel bad that you have to wear Depends.
Thank you for an example of "disgusting people making up lies". ;D
Pray for guidance on how to be humane. What version of the bible are you reading? Does it support what you have posted in this thread? I'm guessing you find the fire and brimstone in the Old Testament much more exciting than those pesty passages in the New Testament that are about being Christian.
After my avidly following your stunning successes in the Pickleball thread, the least you can do is consider my questions seriously.
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 29, 2026, 01:50:17 PMWell, no.. here you can't.
https://www.twincities.com/2026/01/28/st-pauls-camp-bar-cancels-sold-out-shows-from-canadian-comic-after-he-went-viral-with-renee-good-rant/
Sucks to suck, I guess.
Sounds like the free market at work
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 29, 2026, 01:50:17 PMWell, no.. here you can't.
https://www.twincities.com/2026/01/28/st-pauls-camp-bar-cancels-sold-out-shows-from-canadian-comic-after-he-went-viral-with-renee-good-rant/
He made jokes. They sucked and he didn't read the room. A tale as old as time.
Also, he can make jokes. He just, apparently, can't make a living doing it.
A lot like here. He used his first amendment rights to make a statement. Others used their first amendment rights to judge that statement.
This is the best possible thing for the guy's career. It gets him many times more attention than playing a crappy St. Paul club ever would, and the marketplace has proved there's plenty of opportunity out there for unfunny MAGA comedians.
Heck, he may have a Fox News gig by the end of the week.
Quote from: Pakuni on January 29, 2026, 10:49:27 AMI'm just glad that our vice president is out there saying that anyone who makes an unkind comment about Alex Pretti or Renee Good should lose their jobs.
Alex doesn't have a wife to cheat with to build credibility for 2028, that's the crucial difference
Earlier in this thread I stated that the recently released video of Pretti was AI.
That appears to be incorrect and it is real.
Baffling, considering the original source.
Regardless, I was wrong.
Lastly, no matter what he did or didn't do in that video does not justify his murder later.
But it sure makes one wonder if the agents were targeting him since they seem to be putting protestors into databases.
Quote from: jesmu84 on January 29, 2026, 04:44:12 PMEarlier in this thread I stated that the recently released video of Pretti was AI.
That appears to be incorrect and it is real.
Baffling, considering the original source.
Regardless, I was wrong.
Lastly, no matter what he did or didn't do in that video does not justify his murder later.
But it sure makes one wonder if the agents were targeting him since they seem to be putting protestors into databases.
lol. Ok post until the final paragraph. geezus
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 29, 2026, 05:00:11 PMlol. Ok post until the final paragraph. geezus
https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/ices-secret-watchlists-of-americans
I expect your retraction.
Quote from: Hards Alumni on January 29, 2026, 05:04:54 PMhttps://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/ices-secret-watchlists-of-americans
I expect your retraction.
Not happening. I do not believe they were targeting Pretti. If you believe that, you're nuts. (But, you're nuts regardless).
Alex Pretti was helping a woman who was being attacked by masked Gestapo agents. He obviously deserved to get publicly executed, shot in the back 10 times by cowardly thugs at their Fuhrer's behest.
Even Jesus knew he had it coming.
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 29, 2026, 01:50:17 PMWell, no.. here you can't.
https://www.twincities.com/2026/01/28/st-pauls-camp-bar-cancels-sold-out-shows-from-canadian-comic-after-he-went-viral-with-renee-good-rant/
Looks like your weekend opened up.
Quote from: Jables1604 on January 29, 2026, 05:28:35 PMLooks like your weekend opened up.
Something in common with your legs, aina?
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 29, 2026, 05:48:09 PMSomething in common with your legs, aina?
Sure pivot to a gay joke. About what I expect from someone with your intellect and maturity level.
Side note: I've always wondered what it feels like to have the vast majority of people I interact with think I'm a chode. Enlighten me.
These federal agents are monsters.
Hassane Barry and his wife, Nene, both asylum seekers from the Republic of Guinea in West Africa, were driving home from an appointment to get their 1-month-old baby a passport last week.
On Preble Street, they suddenly found themselves boxed in by four unmarked police cars.
Armed and masked federal agents stepped out and said Hassane's name. They were here for him.
"There's a baby in the car," Barry told the agents. "There's a baby."
Agents shattered his driver's side window. Glass sprayed over the baby's car seat, Nene Barry said. Her husband was arrested and pulled into an unmarked police car. Officers left the scene in a matter of minutes.
Nene Barry, who does not have a driver's license and speaks little English, was left alone inside the car with her infant.
https://www.pressherald.com/2026/01/28/ice-agents-shatter-window-leave-1-month-old-baby-mother-in-car-after-portland-arrest/
https://nationalshutdown.org/
Quote from: rocky_warrior on January 29, 2026, 06:44:15 PMhttps://nationalshutdown.org/
Will scoop be participating? lol
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 29, 2026, 07:11:49 PMWill scoop be participating? lol
Yes. I was being kind by letting you know.
Is everything normal in other cities across the US?
I moved out of Minneapolis a few years ago, but am in a suburb. 15 miles from my door to Target Center. My nearest restaurant -- a Mexican joint -- they shut down a couple of weeks ago and have not re-opened. Great people, and that sucks.
Even my McDonald's.. about 1.1 miles away.. they have stopped curbside and inside service. It's strictly drive-thru. And this is in the 'burbs.
These are not fun times.
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 29, 2026, 07:35:32 PMIs everything normal in other cities across the US?
I moved out of Minneapolis a few years ago, but am in a suburb. 15 miles from my door to Target Center. My nearest restaurant -- a Mexican joint -- they shut down a couple of weeks ago and have not re-opened. Great people, and that sucks.
Even my McDonald's.. about 1.1 miles away.. they have stopped curbside and inside service. It's strictly drive-thru. And this is in the 'burbs.
These are not fun times.
The economy is bad.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on January 29, 2026, 07:39:36 PMThe economy is bad.
Tomorrow should help. Thank you for your righteousness. Lol
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 29, 2026, 07:40:32 PMTomorrow should help. Thank you for your righteousness. Lol
No seriously, I'm a "rich person" and balk at the bills I pay eating out. You've got to be insane supporting anything going on right now.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on January 29, 2026, 07:43:30 PMNo seriously, I'm a "rich person" and balk at the bills I pay eating out. You've got to be insane supporting anything going on right now.
Let the White Guilt out! It suits you well.
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 29, 2026, 07:47:50 PMLet the White Guilt out! It suits you well.
Thank you for your support. Kudos for the capitalization.
Man, it's not really the biggest thing, but it's a real bummer to see a terminal case of internet brain, especially when there's objectively at least one area where the subject's expertise has been demonstrated and appreciated.
It's a message board guy, so ya know not hyper critical, but still. It's not fun to watch someone go entirely around the bend.
#sticktosportsanddong
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 29, 2026, 07:58:32 PMNothing yet, eh?
While there's nothing to indicate the guy is an ICE officer, the guy who was burning the flag did appear to be a non-protestor.
And sure enough the online MAGA crowd pounced on the protestors burning the flag.
https://x.com/thetnholler/status/2009611960753737949?s=46
Quote from: TallTitan34 on January 29, 2026, 08:26:29 PMWhile there's nothing to indicate the guy is an ICE officer
#REAL
JB just wants to be liked. Please like his last post before midnight.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on January 29, 2026, 08:48:39 PMJB just wants to be liked. Please like his last post before midnight.
The unnatural carnal knowledge is this woke nonsense. Affirmative action bs.
Quote from: Skatastrophy on January 29, 2026, 08:51:32 PMThe unnatural carnal knowledge is this woke nonsense. Affirmative action bs.
He doesn't believe
https://nationalshutdown.org/
Quote from: rocky_warrior on January 29, 2026, 08:55:37 PMHe doesn't believe
https://nationalshutdown.org/
#ScoopStrong lol
Quote from: rocky_warrior on January 29, 2026, 08:55:37 PMHe doesn't believe
https://nationalshutdown.org/
It's a nice thought, but most of America already is taking off tomorrow to see "Melania."
Quote from: Pakuni on January 29, 2026, 09:24:46 PMIt's a nice thought, but most of America already is taking off tomorrow to see "Melania."
At least one school in Denver in shutting down for the....uh..."screening".
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on January 29, 2026, 08:34:39 AMPlease post the bolded.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Minneapolis/s/oraF2GjTJr
Otay
@Jay Bee
Our best and brightest.
A U.S. Customs and Border Patrol employee was charged with drunken driving in St. Paul after a state trooper found him passed out in a car Tuesday morning "covered in vomit."
The state trooper found 31-year-old Alfredo Mancillas Jr. of Corpus Christi, Texas, "slumped over in the driver's seat" at 3:25 a.m. Tuesday in the Hamline-Midway neighborhood near Allianz Field, according to charges filed that day by the St. Paul City Attorney's Office.
https://sahanjournal.com/public-safety/border-patrol-employee-charged-drunk-driving-st-paul/
Quote from: Pakuni on January 29, 2026, 11:07:53 PMOur best and brightest.
A U.S. Customs and Border Patrol employee was charged with drunken driving in St. Paul after a state trooper found him passed out in a car Tuesday morning "covered in vomit."
The state trooper found 31-year-old Alfredo Mancillas Jr. of Corpus Christi, Texas, "slumped over in the driver's seat" at 3:25 a.m. Tuesday in the Hamline-Midway neighborhood near Allianz Field, according to charges filed that day by the St. Paul City Attorney's Office.
https://sahanjournal.com/public-safety/border-patrol-employee-charged-drunk-driving-st-paul/
Give these guys a break, it's not like they had to pass *any* tests.
But I think I can identify a zebra. I've heard that's a difficult test.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on January 29, 2026, 08:26:29 PMWhile there's nothing to indicate the guy is an ICE officer, the guy who was burning the flag did appear to be a non-protestor.
And sure enough the online MAGA crowd pounced on the protestors burning the flag.
https://x.com/thetnholler/status/2009611960753737949?s=46
To be fair it's hard to tell when they don't wear identification and are wearing the same outfits they did on J6
Quote from: rocky_warrior on January 29, 2026, 11:09:00 PMGive these guys a break, it's not like they had to pass *any* tests.
But I think I can identify a zebra. I've heard that's a difficult test.
This isn't fair.
I heard he was also a dentist
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 29, 2026, 07:58:32 PMNothing yet, eh?
Hey,
thanks for the reminder. "Nothing yet" sums up your response to my questions to you.
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 29, 2026, 07:35:32 PMIs everything normal in other cities across the US?
I moved out of Minneapolis a few years ago, but am in a suburb. 15 miles from my door to Target Center. My nearest restaurant -- a Mexican joint -- they shut down a couple of weeks ago and have not re-opened. Great people, and that sucks.
Even my McDonald's.. about 1.1 miles away.. they have stopped curbside and inside service. It's strictly drive-thru. And this is in the 'burbs.
These are not fun times.
Who do you think runs those places?
Quote from: rocky_warrior on January 29, 2026, 11:09:00 PMGive these guys a break, it's not like they had to pass *any* tests.
But I think I can identify a zebra. I've heard that's a difficult test.
Well, to be fair, they would need to scan the Zebras face into their phones to run it through a national database just to make sure.
MINNEAPOLIS (AP) — A Mexican immigrant was taken to a Minneapolis hospital earlier this month after bones in his face and skull were broken while he was in federal custody.
Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents initially claimed Alberto Castañeda Mondragón had tried to flee while handcuffed and "purposefully ran headfirst into a brick wall," according to court documents filed by a lawyer seeking his release.
But staff members at Hennepin County Medical Center determined that could not possibly account for the fractures and bleeding throughout the man's 31-year-old's brain, said three nurses familiar with the case.
"It was laughable, if there was something to laugh about," said one of the nurses, who spoke to The Associated Press on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss patient care. "There was no way this person ran headfirst into a wall."
https://apnews.com/article/immigration-enforcement-minneapolis-hospitals-dc033249051cd5b72a900ca533a3718b
I know that one scooper here will believe it.
St. Peter police chief intervened and got federal agents to release resident, sources say | MPR News https://www.mprnews.org/story/2026/01/30/st-peter-police-chief-intervenes-prevents-federal-agents-from-arresting-resident
QuoteThe woman, who did not want to be identified because she fears for her safety, is a U.S. citizen and a resident of St. Peter. She told MPR News in an interview that she was out in the community in her car, tracking the movements of federal agents, and recording them on a dash cam.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on January 31, 2026, 04:54:22 PMSt. Peter police chief intervened and got federal agents to release resident, sources say | MPR News https://www.mprnews.org/story/2026/01/30/st-peter-police-chief-intervenes-prevents-federal-agents-from-arresting-resident
Cue JayBee with "#lies #fake news"
Bovino Is Said to Have Mocked Prosecutor's Jewish Faith on Call With Lawyers
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/31/us/bovino-jewish-prosecutor-minnesota.html?
A day before six career federal prosecutors resigned in protest over the Justice Department's handling of the killing of Renee Good in Minneapolis, lawyers in the office had a conversation with Gregory Bovino, the Border Patrol field leader, that left them deeply unsettled.
According to several people with knowledge of the telephone conversation, which took place on Jan. 12, Mr. Bovino made derisive remarks about the faith of the U.S. attorney in Minnesota, Daniel N. Rosen. Mr. Rosen is an Orthodox Jew and observes Shabbat, a period of rest between Friday and Saturday nights that often includes refraining from using electronic devices.
Mr. Bovino, who has been the face of the Trump administration's immigration crackdown, used the term "chosen people" in a mocking way, according to the people with knowledge of the call. He also asked, sarcastically, whether Mr. Rosen understood that Orthodox Jewish criminals don't take weekends off, the people said.
Quote from: MU82 on January 31, 2026, 05:11:11 PMBovino Is Said to Have Mocked Prosecutor's Jewish Faith on Call With Lawyers
It doesn't sound like things have improved with the changing of the guard (not unsurprising)
Quote from: rocky_warrior on January 31, 2026, 05:14:43 PMIt doesn't sound like things have improved with the changing of the guard (not unsurprising)
Yup. Just Homan nature. To err is Homan.
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 29, 2026, 07:35:32 PMIs everything normal in other cities across the US?
I moved out of Minneapolis a few years ago, but am in a suburb. 15 miles from my door to Target Center. My nearest restaurant -- a Mexican joint -- they shut down a couple of weeks ago and have not re-opened. Great people, and that sucks.
Even my McDonald's.. about 1.1 miles away.. they have stopped curbside and inside service. It's strictly drive-thru. And this is in the 'burbs.
These are not fun times.
Do you honestly not understand it? They are going around detaining people simply because they don't look American (non-white), or have an accent, with no other reason to suspect any wrong doing.
They are then taken away to detention centers, sometimes in completely different states, interrogated, and mistreated.
Citizens, legal immigrants and others are afraid to go out and go to work, run their business, or go to school, because they can be detained just for the way they look.
That's why businesses by you are a mess. Because terror, and fear is the goal. Even my right-wing friends admit that, it isn't about the rule of law it is to create fear so immigrants are afraid to even come here.
Quote from: forgetful on January 31, 2026, 07:25:57 PMDo you honestly not understand it?
Did you honestly not comprehend my question?
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 31, 2026, 07:53:56 PMDid you honestly not comprehend my question?
You're on a very special island right now my friend.
This island!?! ;D
(https://yt3.googleusercontent.com/ytc/AIdro_kkcXCCDsk4B3JrZ4YpMs_oBG6TRhaU9VJsfUCUIhaTww=s900-c-k-c0x00ffffff-no-rj)
Quote from: rocky_warrior on January 31, 2026, 08:03:46 PMYou're on a very special island right now my friend.
To be fair a lot of the people he's blindly endorsing the actions of were on a special island too.
Quote from: forgetful on January 31, 2026, 07:25:57 PMDo you honestly not understand it? They are going around detaining people simply because they don't look American (non-white), or have an accent, with no other reason to suspect any wrong doing.
They are then taken away to detention centers, sometimes in completely different states, interrogated, and mistreated.
Citizens, legal immigrants and others are afraid to go out and go to work, run their business, or go to school, because they can be detained just for the way they look.
That's why businesses by you are a mess. Because terror, and fear is the goal. Even my right-wing friends admit that, it isn't about the rule of law it is to create fear so immigrants are afraid to even come here.
Eh, who cares if U.S. citizens, including veterans and teenagers, are being hauled away, detained and denied due process? They had it coming!
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 31, 2026, 07:53:56 PMDid you honestly not comprehend my question?
You ask questions, but apparently answering questions is beneath you. Are you "honestly" incapable of answering, or incapable of doing so? I'm trying to come up with something akin to TACO for threatening tariffs and other threats and then chickening out to describe your M.O. Perhaps another scooper could help out here.
Forgetful answered your questions but did not provide answers that are acceptable to you because they do not support your "thought" process. Suggestion: stop drinking the damn Kool-Aide.
From Axios e-newsletter:
A federal judge in Texas ordered the release of a 5-year-old Minnesota boy from ICE custody. The scathing opinion blasted "ill-conceived and incompetently implemented government pursuit of daily deportation quotas, apparently even if it requires traumatizing children." He captioned a photo of the boy with two Bible verses, including "Jesus wept."
Quote from: MU82 on February 01, 2026, 09:26:16 AMFrom Axios e-newsletter:
A federal judge in Texas ordered the release of a 5-year-old Minnesota boy from ICE custody. The scathing opinion blasted "ill-conceived and incompetently implemented government pursuit of daily deportation quotas, apparently even if it requires traumatizing children." He captioned a photo of the boy with two Bible verses, including "Jesus wept."
DOJ response: "To the extent that we need to appeal that judge's decision, I promise we will."
These lunatics want to appeal their right to jail preschoolers.
Quote from: Pakuni on February 01, 2026, 11:09:42 AMDOJ response: "To the extent that we need to appeal that judge's decision, I promise we will."
These lunatics want to appeal their right to jail preschoolers.
Oh...my...
.Gawd!Edit: Too late. Father and son are back in Minneapolis. Maybe Jay Bee can atone for his sins and drive them to the Canadian border so they can seek asylum. Otherwise, the DOJ will waste no time in getting them back.
Rocky will probably shut scoop down again in solidarity.
Quote from: Pakuni on February 01, 2026, 11:09:42 AMDOJ response: "To the extent that we need to appeal that judge's decision, I promise we will."
These lunatics want to appeal their right to jail preschoolers.
Had that guy been arrested for burglary or some other crime the child would be detained with him until he could be handed over to care it is hyperbole to describe the child in jail were i to look i'm sure i would find similar outrage when Obama locked up illegals
https://x.com/rolopez42/status/2017999062587613517?s=46
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on February 01, 2026, 11:46:11 AMHad that guy been arrested for burglary or some other crime the child would be detained with him until he could be handed over to care it is hyperbole to describe the child in jail were i to look i'm sure i would find similar outrage when Obama locked up illegals
Had the Queen a set of balls she'd be the king...
Quote from: tower912 on January 31, 2026, 05:23:24 PMYup. Just Homan nature. To err is Homan.
He could give Scott Drew a few pointers on bag drops.
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on February 01, 2026, 11:46:11 AMHad that guy been arrested for burglary or some other crime the child would be detained with him until he could be handed over to care it is hyperbole to describe the child in jail were i to look i'm sure i would find similar outrage when Obama locked up illegals
Okay, but thats not what happened.
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on February 01, 2026, 11:46:11 AMHad that guy been arrested for burglary or some other crime the child would be detained with him until he could be handed over to care it is hyperbole to describe the child in jail were i to look i'm sure i would find similar outrage when Obama locked up illegals
No, that's not true at all and inane that you think so.
The kid would have been brought to a police station until a relative could come pick him up. If after many hours no relative could be located, the kid would have been brought to foster-like setting operated by the state's department of children services. What would have never, ever happened would be the kid placed in a jail with adults.
It's hard to fathom how you believe that.
You're quip about Obama just shows how unserious you are. Nobody here believes we shouldn't have immigration laws and those laws shouldn't be enforced.
But we believe enforcement can be done in a humane, targeted and lawful manner, not with masked goons dressed like they're cosplaying Iraqi War soldier randomly stopping anyone who looks remotely foreign and demanding their papers.
I mean, did scenes like this play out during the Obama administration? (And please note, the woman the first photo these very tough men are menacing is an American citizen. The old man being dragged into the cold half naked? Also a citizen ... for 35 years!)
(https://static01.nyt.com/images/2026/01/26/multimedia/00nat-minn-gun-fjzw/00nat-minn-gun-fjzw-articleLarge.jpg?quality=75&auto=webp&disable=upscale)
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT-2gXvExQfOHR9fahAJiCEoLvQ8dMieMCmZA&s)
Yup. With the Fuhrer and his Gestapo, the cruelty, fear and violence are features.
Quote from: MU82 on February 01, 2026, 04:39:50 PMYup. With the Fuhrer and his Gestapo, the cruelty, fear and violence are features.
You have said it many times on scoop, as I have to anyone outside of scoop willing to listen-he
made it very clear what he would do once elected. But even I have to admit that the
extent is beyond what I thought would be a "worst case" scenario.
Sounds like a couple Uncle Juans murdered Pretti
Quote from: jesmu84 on February 01, 2026, 06:12:34 PMSounds like a couple Uncle Juans murdered Pretti
Beat me to it.
https://www.propublica.org/article/alex-pretti-shooting-cbp-agents-identified-jesus-ochoa-raymundo-gutierrez
Quote from: jesmu84 on February 01, 2026, 06:12:34 PMSounds like a couple Uncle Juans murdered Pretti
My source told me that ICE recruited guys who worked for the cartels, so...no surprise.
Hmmm ... A Latino-on-White killing could actually motivate the Fourth Reich to make some reforms in a way a White-on-White killing wouldn't have.
Quote from: Pakuni on February 01, 2026, 02:25:28 PMNo, that's not true at all and inane that you think so.<snip>
It's hard to fathom how you believe that.
Is it? "COVID vaccines were never tested" is just one of his truly bonkers beliefs.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on January 31, 2026, 04:54:22 PMSt. Peter police chief intervened and got federal agents to release resident, sources say | MPR News https://www.mprnews.org/story/2026/01/30/st-peter-police-chief-intervenes-prevents-federal-agents-from-arresting-resident
The video of this is stunning. Ice officers using their vehicle in a very unsafe way. They hop out, guns drawn. Their fingers are already on the trigger and most are holding their handguns sideways - I'm guessing that isn't taught in their rigorous training
Quote from: jesmu84 on February 01, 2026, 06:12:34 PMSounds like a couple Uncle Juans murdered Pretti
Disgusting language. Shame!
Quote from: jesmu84 on February 01, 2026, 06:12:34 PMSounds like a couple Uncle Juans murdered Pretti
Tio Juans. Sheesh!
My source tells me that they are Pickleball aficionados. No surprise.
Quote from: MU82 on February 01, 2026, 07:38:18 PMHmmm ... A Latino-on-White killing could actually motivate the Fourth Reich to make some reforms in a way a White-on-White killing wouldn't have.
Good point. The claims regarding dangerous Latino "murderers" now has a pair of poster boys to validate the charge.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on February 02, 2026, 12:07:02 PMGood point. The claims regarding dangerous Latino "murderers" now has a pair of poster boys to validate the charge.
Of course, that these dangerous Latin murderers so easily passed the requirements to join the Gestapo is another thing ...
Quote from: MU82 on February 02, 2026, 02:19:08 PMOf course, that these dangerous Latin murderers so easily passed the requirements to join the Gestapo is another thing ...
Simple! All you need to do is flunk two tests- 1) Intelligence and 2) Heart
You can't spell Pickleball without ICE PAL
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on February 02, 2026, 02:31:22 PMSimple! All you need to do is flunk two tests- 1) Intelligence and 2) Heart
Live look at ICE's latest recruits.
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Quote from: Pakuni on February 02, 2026, 09:10:26 PMLive look at ICE's latest recruits.
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The cowardly lion is a 4.4356 rated pickleball player
Quote from: Shaka Shart on February 02, 2026, 09:11:50 PMThe cowardly lion is a 4.4356 rated pickleball player
But if we could nationalize voting, he'd be even better.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on February 03, 2026, 12:09:40 AMBut if we could nationalize voting, he'd be even better.
And I thought that only socialists and communists nationalized stuff.
Scary stuff going on with elections. The lifelong charlatan who co-opted the Republican Party is trying to do whatever it takes to make it impossible for his people to lose.
The optimist in me says he won't get away with it, just as he didn't in the months that followed the 2020 election. But these days there are few (if any) in his orbit willing to push back on elections ... or anything else.
Quote from: MU82 on February 03, 2026, 09:13:26 PMScary stuff going on with elections. The lifelong charlatan who co-opted the Republican Party is trying to do whatever it takes to make it impossible for his people to lose.
The optimist in me says he won't get away with it, just as he didn't in the months that followed the 2020 election. But these days there are few (if any) in his orbit willing to push back on elections ... or anything else.
As I said before:
"I think Democrats are putting WAY too much faith in the 2026 elections. If you look at the characteristics of fascism keene.edu/academics/cchgs/resources/presentation-materials/characteristics-and-appeal-of-fascism/download/, the only one they haven't ticked off already is fraudulent elections. I kinda don't think they're going to leave that one unchecked."
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on February 03, 2026, 08:37:33 AMAnd I thought that only socialists and communists nationalized stuff.
Abortion? States' rights!
Education? States' rights!
Environmental protection? States' rights!
Elections? Uh ... never mind.
Well if states can't clean voter lists of people who were born in the 19th century or who vote from vacant lots and mail box stores something ought to be tried
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on February 04, 2026, 12:42:56 PMWell if states can't clean voter lists of people who were born in the 19th century or who vote from vacant lots and mail box stores something ought to be tried
The left wing radicals over at the Heritage Foundation examined 32 Pennsylvania elections over 30 years, involving more than 100 million votes and found ... 39 fraudulent votes.
27 elections over 34 years in Georgia, involving nearly 65 million votes ... 23 fraudulent.
39 elections over 38 years in North Carolina, involving 81.6 million votes ... 58 fraudulent.
26 elections in 17 years in Michigan, involving 64.5 million votes ... 19 fraudulent.
No cases in any place where fraud changed the outcome.
Shall I go on?
Voter fraud is a myth concocted by, and believed by, losers.
Also, #constitutionnomatta?
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/how-widespread-is-election-fraud-in-the-united-states-not-very/
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on February 04, 2026, 12:42:56 PMWell if states can't clean voter lists of people who were born in the 19th century or who vote from vacant lots and mail box stores something ought to be tried
Is this actually a problem?
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on February 04, 2026, 12:42:56 PMWell if states can't clean voter lists of people who were born in the 19th century or who vote from vacant lots and mail box stores something ought to be tried
Strawman.
The feds control numerous agencies that make numerous mistakes. It happens with bureaucracies. Let them clean their own house before burning down states' rights.
Dozens of courts have found no evidence of widespread election fraud ... although the current president tried his damnedest to defraud the system in 2020-21. Thankfully, honesty - and the Constitution - prevailed. It might not next time. And sadly, that's ok with
millions of brainwashed Americans.
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on February 04, 2026, 12:42:56 PMWell if states can't clean voter lists of people who were born in the 19th century or who vote from vacant lots and mail box stores something ought to be tried
How many of those are actually casting votes? In Georgia, there were 9 cases by non-citizens out of the 20 on the voter roll of 8.2 million. In Oregon after 1500 people were mistakenly added to the voter rolls, 10 were flagged as non-citzens and 6 of them were found to be citizens.
Here's a link: https://www.npr.org/2024/10/12/nx-s1-5147789/voting-election-2024-noncitizen-fact-check-trump
Alabama election officials inactivated the registrations of 3,251 individuals on the grounds that they were potential noncitizens but then acknowledged last month at least 2,074 were actually eligible voters, according to court filings. A federal judge halted the program because a federal law bans systematic purges in the 90 days before an election. The judge said in an Oct. 16 hearing that the state "has identified a handful, at least four, perhaps as many as ten, perhaps more, noncitizens who were somehow on Alabama's voter rolls." Meanwhile, the two states with the highest number of "illegal aliens," Texas and Florida, aren't having ICE sent and not having their voter rolls challenged.
His truth has no time for your facts
what a dickhead:
https://x.com/factpostnews/status/2019064246865211706
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on February 04, 2026, 03:00:52 PMwhat a dickhead:
https://x.com/factpostnews/status/2019064246865211706
"Your general existence would be a great starting point."
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on February 04, 2026, 12:42:56 PMWell if states can't clean voter lists of people who were born in the 19th century or who vote from vacant lots and mail box stores something ought to be tried
Instead of these moronic arguments you throw out there, why can't you be man enough to admit that you just want our form of government overthrown by the fascists?
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on February 04, 2026, 12:42:56 PMWell if states can't clean voter lists of people who were born in the 19th century or who vote from vacant lots and mail box stores something ought to be tried
Crazy how every election won by a D involves voter fraud yet every election was by an R was completely legitimate.
Quote from: Jables1604 on February 04, 2026, 07:18:29 PMCrazy how every election won by a D involves voter fraud yet every election was by an R was completely legitimate.
Not true! The 2016 Republican primary in Iowa that Trump lost to Ted Cruz was also stolen.
And the Emmys were rigged when The Apprentice didn't win.
Quote from: Jables1604 on February 04, 2026, 07:18:29 PMCrazy how every election won by a D involves voter fraud yet every election was by an R was completely legitimate.
Yup. The only major-office election to have experienced actual, material fraud was the U.S. House District in which I lived in 2018. A Republican operative so rigged the vote that the results had to be scrapped and the election had to be repeated.
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/URLs_Cited/OT2020/19-1257/19-1257-1.pdf
From The AP:
MINNEAPOLIS (AP) — Alberto Castañeda Mondragón says his memory was so jumbled after a beating by immigration officers that he initially could not remember he had a daughter and still struggles to recall treasured moments like the night he taught her to dance.
But the violence he endured last month in Minnesota while being detained is seared into his battered brain.
He remembers Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents pulling him from a friend's car on Jan. 8 outside a St. Paul shopping center and throwing him to the ground, handcuffing him, then punching him and striking his head with a steel baton. He remembers being dragged into an SUV and taken to a detention facility, where he said he was beaten again. ...
The officers told nurses Castañeda Mondragón "purposefully ran headfirst into a brick wall," an account his caregivers immediately doubted. A CT scan showed fractures to the front, back and both sides of his skull — injuries a doctor told AP were inconsistent with a fall.
https://apnews.com/article/immigration-enforcement-minneapolis-hospital-ice-beating-assault-4e77742e0629fc7f127c0aa38b3d2a70?
Quote from: MU82 on February 09, 2026, 06:12:12 AMFrom The AP:
MINNEAPOLIS (AP) — Alberto Castañeda Mondragón says his memory was so jumbled after a beating by immigration officers that he initially could not remember he had a daughter and still struggles to recall treasured moments like the night he taught her to dance.
But the violence he endured last month in Minnesota while being detained is seared into his battered brain.
He remembers Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents pulling him from a friend's car on Jan. 8 outside a St. Paul shopping center and throwing him to the ground, handcuffing him, then punching him and striking his head with a steel baton. He remembers being dragged into an SUV and taken to a detention facility, where he said he was beaten again. ...
The officers told nurses Castañeda Mondragón "purposefully ran headfirst into a brick wall," an account his caregivers immediately doubted. A CT scan showed fractures to the front, back and both sides of his skull — injuries a doctor told AP were inconsistent with a fall.
https://apnews.com/article/immigration-enforcement-minneapolis-hospital-ice-beating-assault-4e77742e0629fc7f127c0aa38b3d2a70?
Why didn't he just cooperate
Stunner: Kristi Noem, her Gestapo, and other federal officials lied like rugs ...
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/12/us/prosecutor-dismiss-charges-men-shot-by-ice.html?
Thank goodness for video evidence, or the Gestapo agents would get away with all of their crimes.
Quote from: MU82 on February 15, 2026, 10:37:49 AMStunner: Kristi Noem, her Gestapo, and other federal officials lied like rugs ...
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/12/us/prosecutor-dismiss-charges-men-shot-by-ice.html?
Thank goodness for video evidence, or the Gestapo agents would get away with all of their crimes.
Your posting this will result in you being added to their list of domestic terrorists.
Quote from: MU82 on February 15, 2026, 10:37:49 AMStunner: Kristi Noem, her Gestapo, and other federal officials lied like rugs ...
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/12/us/prosecutor-dismiss-charges-men-shot-by-ice.html?
Thank goodness for video evidence, or the Gestapo agents would get away with all of their crimes.
She can just blame it on the Botox leaking into her brain
Lewandowski suggested it during pillow talk.
In what universe are federal agents upholding the law the equivalence of fascists or nazis?
quick reference: fascism is socialism united with big industry according to Mussolini
he ought to know
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on February 15, 2026, 11:55:38 AMIn what universe are federal agents upholding the law the equivalence of fascists or nazis?
quick reference: fascism is socialism united with big industry according to Mussolini
he ought to know
No, that's not the definition of fascism.
Are we talking about the same Mussolini who was kicked out of the Italian socialist party during WWI and promptly became an avowed anti-socialist?
Read a book, my guy. Or at least a Wikipedia page.
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on February 15, 2026, 11:55:38 AMIn what universe are federal agents upholding the law the equivalence of fascists or nazis?
quick reference: fascism is socialism united with big industry according to Mussolini
he ought to know
Please learn to read before commenting. Thanks.
Quote from: Pakuni on February 15, 2026, 12:13:35 PMNo, that's not the definition of fascism.
Are we talking about the same Mussolini who was kicked out of the Italian socialist party during WWI and promptly became an avowed anti-socialist?
Read a book, my guy. Or at least a Wikipedia page.
Wealth redistribution = bad; literally any other goddamn thing imaginable = good. So anything bad must = wealth redistribution. That's all the math they can do.
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on February 15, 2026, 11:55:38 AMIn what universe are federal agents upholding the law the equivalence of fascists or nazis?
Is your understanding that the nazis were violating, rather than enforcing, the laws of nazi Germany?
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on February 15, 2026, 11:55:38 AMIn what universe are federal agents upholding the law the equivalence of fascists or nazis?
quick reference: fascism is socialism united with big industry according to Mussolini
he ought to know
Yeah but the Dow is at 50,000!
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on February 15, 2026, 11:55:38 AMIn what universe are federal agents upholding the law the equivalence of fascists or nazis?
quick reference: fascism is socialism united with big industry according to Mussolini
he ought to know
I really can't comprehend the world of misinformation that you wallow around in without, it would seem, the slightest desire to fact check yourself. From "the J6ers were just "curious citizens" to "the COVID vaccines were never tested for safety or efficacy" to this. Amazing.
Roqqet used to mindlessly regurgitate whatever he heard on Fox, but you seem to take it a step further and actively seek out the most batsh!t crazy stuff and accept it without reflection.
Quote from: MU82 on February 15, 2026, 10:37:49 AMStunner: Kristi Noem, her Gestapo, and other federal officials lied like rugs ...
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/12/us/prosecutor-dismiss-charges-men-shot-by-ice.html?
Thank goodness for video evidence, or the Gestapo agents would get away with all of their crimes.
If it makes you feel better, they lie 100% of the time
https://www.cnn.com/2026/02/11/us/chicago-border-patrol-shooting-video-evidence
Makes you wonder what really happened between law enforcement and citizens for dozens of years before video evidence was a thing
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on February 15, 2026, 11:55:38 AMIn what universe are federal agents upholding the law the equivalence of fascists or nazis?
Please explain what laws exist that allow federal agents to murder protesters. "Upholding the law" my ass.
Quote from: MU82 on February 15, 2026, 10:37:49 AMStunner: Kristi Noem, her Gestapo, and other federal officials lied like rugs ...
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/12/us/prosecutor-dismiss-charges-men-shot-by-ice.html?
Thank goodness for video evidence, or the Gestapo agents would get away with all of their crimes.
^^^ This seems political. Ban this clown boy.
Quote from: Jay Bee on February 15, 2026, 06:53:25 PM^^^ This seems political. Ban this clown boy.
Discussing disgusting murderers is not political.
Quote from: Jay Bee on February 15, 2026, 06:53:25 PM^^^ This seems political. Ban this clown boy.
Seriously, why do you support murderers and liars who cover up for them?
Quote from: MU82 on February 16, 2026, 12:12:06 AMSeriously, why do you support murderers and liars who cover up for them?
You're making things up.
Lenten prayers for you.
Quote from: Pakuni on February 15, 2026, 12:13:35 PMNo, that's not the definition of fascism.
Are we talking about the same Mussolini who was kicked out of the Italian socialist party during WWI and promptly became an avowed anti-socialist?
Read a book, my guy. Or at least a Wikipedia page.
I think it is intellectually lazy to parrot vile names for people one disagrees with it puts someone on par with the teilzeitdinkers screaming on the streets at lawful agents there is no equivalence with Nazis ;arresting
adjudicated criminals is lawful and moral
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on February 16, 2026, 08:46:45 AM...there is no equivalence with Nazis ;arresting
adjudicated criminals is lawful and moral
What about murdering innocent people?
Quote from: Jables1604 on February 16, 2026, 08:52:11 AMWhat are murdering innocent people?
Or arresting and deporting people who are legally able to be here? Or doing so without the Constitutional guaranty of due process?
Defending this nonsense may not make one a Nazi sympathizer, but it certainly makes them anti-American to the core.
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on February 16, 2026, 08:46:45 AMI think it is intellectually lazy to parrot vile names for people one disagrees with it puts someone on par with the teilzeitdinkers screaming on the streets at lawful agents there is no equivalence with Nazis ;arresting
adjudicated criminals is lawful and moral
You're right--there are some significant differences.
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Also, here is your lawful and moral:
https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/courts-have-ruled-4400-times-that-ice-jailed-people-illegally-it-hasnt-stopped-2026-02-14/
Wikepedia and Reuters are not the ideal references for truth but we can disagree with civilty andi appreciate that
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on February 16, 2026, 08:46:45 AMI think it is intellectually lazy to parrot vile names for people one disagrees with it puts someone on par with the teilzeitdinkers screaming on the streets at lawful agents there is no equivalence with Nazis ;arresting
adjudicated criminals is lawful and moral
Would you say that's more or less intellectually lazy than conflating fascism with socialism? Or claiming Benny Mussolini's government was socialist?
Asking for a friend.
Oh, and just fyi, most immigration violations are civil offenses. In most instances, being in the country unlawfully is not a criminal act.
Quote from: Pakuni on February 16, 2026, 09:26:07 AMOh, and just fyi, most immigration violations are civil offenses. In most instances, being in the country unlawfully is not a criminal act.
Do you have numbers on this breakdown? -->
Unlawful presence people who have zero criminal offenses of any type vs.
illegal entry people (crime) and/or other criminal offenses?
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on February 16, 2026, 09:20:25 AMWikepedia and Reuters are not the ideal references for truth but we can disagree with civilty andi appreciate that
Can we agree that ICE should attempt to handle matters "with civility"?
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on February 16, 2026, 09:20:25 AMWikepedia and Reuters are not the ideal references for truth but we can disagree with civilty andi appreciate that
Wikipedia, obviously, but Reuters is generally a well-respected news organization.
Which media outlets are your "ideal references for truth"?
Quote from: Jay Bee on February 16, 2026, 09:54:25 AMDo you have numbers on this breakdown? -->
Unlawful presence people who have zero criminal offenses of any type vs.
illegal entry people (crime) and/or other criminal offenses?
Reading is hard.
Quote from: Pakuni on February 16, 2026, 10:12:41 AMReading is hard.
I read and understood what you posted just fine - I'm axing a question. Sounds like you do not know.
Quote from: Jay Bee on February 16, 2026, 10:22:00 AMI read and understood what you posted just fine - I'm axing a question. Sounds like you do not know.
Your question does not logically follow from my post.
But to answer your question:
52,504 out of 70,766 — or 74.2% - held in ICE detention have no criminal conviction according to data current as of January 25, 2026. Many of those convicted committed only minor offenses, including traffic violations. https://tracreports.org/immigration/quickfacts/
Hope this helps!
Quote from: Jay Bee on February 16, 2026, 09:54:25 AMDo you have numbers on this breakdown? -->
Unlawful presence people who have zero criminal offenses of any type vs.
illegal entry people (crime) and/or other criminal offenses?
https://tracreports.org/immigration/quickfacts/
74+% with no criminal convictions, with "many of those convicted committed only minor offenses, including traffic violations."
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on February 16, 2026, 09:20:25 AMWikepedia and Reuters are not the ideal references for truth but we can disagree with civilty andi appreciate that
LOL
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on February 16, 2026, 10:28:14 AMhttps://tracreports.org/immigration/quickfacts/
74+% with no criminal convictions, with "many of those convicted committed only minor offenses, including traffic violations."
This was not my question.
Quote from: Jay Bee on February 16, 2026, 10:33:03 AMThis was not my question.
I'm sorry, I'll contact that organization and ask them to re-run the data to match your exact phrasing rather than this cut which gets to the essence of your question.
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on February 15, 2026, 11:55:38 AMIn what universe are federal agents upholding the law the equivalence of fascists or nazis?
quick reference: fascism is socialism united with big industry according to Mussolini
he ought to know
Quick reference, one of the countries the fascist countries of Germany and Italy fought against was the USSR. A Soviet
Socialist Republic.
Fascism is a right wing ideology, Socialism is the polar opposite.
Apologies for trying to teach an old dog new tricks, but you can't really be this stupid and post online without getting dunked on.
Quote from: Hards Alumni on February 18, 2026, 12:59:26 PMQuick reference, one of the countries the fascist countries of Germany and Italy fought against was the USSR. A Soviet Socialist Republic.
Fascism is a right wing ideology, Socialism is the polar opposite.
Apologies for trying to teach an old dog new tricks, but you can't really be this stupid and post online without getting dunked on.
He won't even say which media outlets are his "ideal references for truth," so he's pretty much a professional at getting dunked on.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on February 16, 2026, 09:55:28 AMCan we agree that ICE should attempt to handle matters "with civility"?
As should local authorities. Do Sheriffs handle all eviction with civility?
Quote from: muwarrior69 on February 18, 2026, 03:21:55 PMAs should local authorities. Do Sheriffs handle all eviction with civility?
No.
What point are you trying to make here?
Quote from: muwarrior69 on February 18, 2026, 03:21:55 PMAs should local authorities. Do Sheriffs handle all eviction with civility?
Nice try. Do they
murder the people they are evicting? Do they load them onto planes and send them to remote detention centers? Do they take 5-year-old kids and lock them up also?
I'm pretty sure local authorities tell the people they are evicting (after showing them a warrant-
what a novel idea!) that if they do not leave, they will forcibly remove them. And then the local authorities head to the nearest donut shop for coffee, and the evicted people are either taken in by an organization-maybe even your parish, who knows?-or move in with friends or family.
::) ?-(
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on February 18, 2026, 04:06:05 PMNice try. Do they murder the people they are evicting? Do they load them onto planes and send them to remote detention centers? Do they take 5-year-old kids and lock them up also?
I'm pretty sure local authorities tell the people they are evicting (after showing them a warrant-what a novel idea!) that if they do not leave, they will forcibly remove them. And then the local authorities head to the nearest donut shop for coffee, and the evicted people are either taken in by an organization-maybe even your parish, who knows?-or move in with friends or family.
::) ?-(
And the local sheriff doesn't wear a mask while evicting either.
At no point in our history have we allowed law enforcement to wear masks to conceal their identity while carrying out routine operations. Now we should be allowed to have agents of the federal government do so? Wasn't this what we were warned about years ago?
Quote from: MU82 on February 16, 2026, 10:06:18 AMWikipedia, obviously, but Reuters is generally a well-respected news organization.
Which media outlets are your "ideal references for truth"?
The ADA newsletter
Quote from: The Sultan on February 18, 2026, 04:08:44 PMAnd the local sheriff doesn't wear a mask while evicting either.
At no point in our history have we allowed law enforcement to wear masks to conceal their identity while carrying out routine operations. Now we should be allowed to have agents of the federal government do so? Wasn't this what we were warned about years ago?
I just figured out what 69's post was
really about. He got evicted uncivilly by the local authorities. Hey 69, you can stay at our house, but you will need to earn your keep and clear brush from the edges of the paddocks. You can use my chain saw.
Quote from: The Sultan on February 18, 2026, 04:08:44 PMAnd the local sheriff doesn't wear a mask while evicting either.
At no point in our history have we allowed law enforcement to wear masks to conceal their identity while carrying out routine operations. Now we should be allowed to have agents of the federal government do so? Wasn't this what we were warned about years ago?
That's pretty disingenuous. You know why they wear the masks; people were doxxing them and their families and threatening them. Why all the Tsuris about deporting illegals now? Obama deported far larger numbers and crickets. Some of us a comfortable with criminals who are here illegally being sent out of the country. Enough Americans have suffered from theses people who have been adjudicated and ordered for deportations
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on February 21, 2026, 08:46:41 PMObama deported far larger numbers
And yet, you don't understand this is for show!?! At taxpayers expense? lol
Even Biden deported more his last year.
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Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on February 21, 2026, 08:46:41 PMThat's pretty disingenuous. You know why they wear the masks; people were doxxing them and their families and threatening them. Why all the Tsuris about deporting illegals now? Obama deported far larger numbers and crickets. Some of us a comfortable with criminals who are here illegally being sent out of the country. Enough Americans have suffered from theses people who have been adjudicated and ordered for deportations
Please stop being this dumb.
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on February 21, 2026, 08:46:41 PMThat's pretty disingenuous. You know why they wear the masks; people were doxxing them and their families and threatening them. Why all the Tsuris about deporting illegals now? Obama deported far larger numbers and crickets. Some of us a comfortable with criminals who are here illegally being sent out of the country. Enough Americans have suffered from theses people who have been adjudicated and ordered for deportations
Oh no!
The public might find out who I am!!!
That's what happens when you work for the state buddy.
And wells..go unnatural carnal knowledge yourself.
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on February 21, 2026, 08:46:41 PMThat's pretty disingenuous. You know why they wear the masks; people were doxxing them and their families and threatening them.
Why don't police officers, FBI agents, Secret Service agents, etc, wear masks?
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on February 21, 2026, 08:46:41 PMSome of us a comfortable with criminals who are here illegally being sent out of the country.
Why are most of those being deported non-criminals?
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on February 21, 2026, 08:46:41 PMEnough Americans have suffered from theses people who have been adjudicated
Why were hundreds of violent, 1/6/21, adjudicated felons pardoned and sent back into society, where dozens of them have committed new crimes - including one "patriot" who threatened to assassinate the House Minority Leader?
Quote from: MU82 on February 22, 2026, 11:44:47 AMWhy were hundreds of violent, 1/6/21, adjudicated felons pardoned and sent back into society, where dozens of them have committed new crimes - including one "patriot" who threatened to assassinate the House Minority Leader?
If you knew how to find factual news sources, you would understand they were merely tourists that got a little out of control!
Quote from: rocky_warrior on February 22, 2026, 11:50:38 AMIf you knew how to find factual news sources, you would understand they were merely tourists that got a little out of control!
"Curious citizens" per Wellsstreet...who happened to bring tactical gear, body armor, zip ties, hockey sticks, bear spray, gas masks, and tools to build a gallows, the stuff all curious citizens routinely travel with.
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on February 22, 2026, 02:32:01 PM"Curious citizens" per Wellsstreet...who happened to bring tactical gear, body armor, zip ties, hockey sticks, bear spray, gas masks, and tools to build a gallows, the stuff all curious citizens routinely travel with.
Many of the terrorists also had guns.
FWIW, things are quite a bit better in MN. Lots of the restaurants near me are again operating, or operating more normally. Apparently now there's suppose to be nexus re: a crime convicted or charged in order to mess with people.
PS - not really related, but scary situation in parts of Mexico right now. I have family that lives in areas where people are essentially locking down after the killing of El Mencho. Very concerning.
Quote from: Jay Bee on February 22, 2026, 07:48:55 PMFWIW, things are quite a bit better in MN. Lots of the restaurants near me are again operating, or operating more normally. Apparently now there's suppose to be nexus re: a crime convicted or charged in order to mess with people.
All better now, huh?
https://www.thebulwark.com/p/what-i-saw-minnesota-ice-war
"The observers proved to be a problem for DHS, as its agents were caught on camera, over and over, striking, gassing, abusing, and murdering civilians. So the government adapted again.
DHS agents began recording the observers and scanning their faces. They then used government databases to identify them. Sometimes they showed up at their homes to threaten them."
<snip>
"The Twin Cities have tens of thousands of residents who cannot leave their homes for fear of being abducted by DHS. These people cannot go to work. They cannot shop for groceries. They cannot go to doctors' appointments. Many of them cannot send their children to school.
Various civic groups have self-organized to help them. Food banks deliver groceries. People donate money to pay rent. Doctors finish their shifts and then make house calls. The governor told us about a group of doulas who make secret home visits to deliver babies to mothers who cannot go to a hospital, because DHS agents view health care facilities as abduction traps.
Think about that: You now live in a country where volunteers deliver babies at home, in secret, off the books, because mothers fear that if they go to the hospital, they will be abducted by masked, armed agents of the state while giving birth."
<snip>
"Many of the people abducted by the government are taken without cause. When the government runs out of excuses to hold them, or is forced to release them by the courts, they send them out the front door of the Whipple Building, often in the dead of night. Alone. No cell phone. No jacket. In the freezing cold and snow.
A civic group called Haven Watch now stands guard at Whipple around the clock so that former prisoners of the regime do not freeze to death after release. While we were at Whipple talking to observers, a mother and two small children emerged from the building. They had nothing with them other than the clothes on their backs. It was about 15 degrees, the day after an unexpected snow. The three small humans haltingly made their way across the ice and slush in the road. Someone from Haven Watch met them and ushered them into a warm car.
I ask you: What do you think would have happened to this woman and her children had the United States government sent them into the cold and snow, far from taxis or transport, with no way of contacting anyone for help?"
Quote from: MU82 on February 22, 2026, 05:44:57 PMMany of the domestic terrorists also had guns.
FIFY
Oh boy, even more boot lickers in here now.
Say it out load: concentration camps
https://archive.is/sEVg5
The hidden ICE blueprint that should horrify every American
An internal Department of Homeland Security document shows how ICE plans to cram thousands of detained human beings inside a Georgia warehouse.
"Close to two-thirds of the massive, rectangular floor plan is divided into 80 squares separated by narrow corridors, each box with dozens of strike marks. The thousands of marks presumably represent bunk beds but what they truly signify is human beings.
Based on the most recent statistics, as many as 70% of these arrested and handcuffed immigrants will have committed no crime after entering the United States — day laborers, restaurant workers or Uber drivers now crammed into a prison camp unlike anything seen on U.S. soil since World War II's immoral Japanese internment."
I found this recent Cato Institute study helpful, on immigration:
https://www.cato.org/blog/cato-study-immigrants-reduced-deficits-145-trillion-1994
Quote from: Tarragona on February 23, 2026, 09:15:24 AMI found this recent Cato Institute study helpful, on immigration:
https://www.cato.org/blog/cato-study-immigrants-reduced-deficits-145-trillion-1994
Not surprised. Immigrants are great for the economy, and the ejecting of them already is showing to be bad for the economy. People who for decades have been reliable employees and valued members of their communities are being chased out by the Gestapo.
Mike Lee is so close to getting it.
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Quote from: Pakuni on February 23, 2026, 01:13:11 PMMike Lee is so close to getting it.
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Imagine being so dumb that you think that was a gotcha
Quote from: Jay Bee on February 23, 2026, 02:48:16 PMBlood on her hands!
Why yes, the people with blood on their hands are the ones calling out the violent killers, not the violent killers themselves! Yes, indeed.
Quote from: Jay Bee on February 23, 2026, 02:48:16 PMBlood on her hands!
Yawn. Remember, all these regimes come crashing down in the end. Trump will be gone, but thousands of others will face consequences.
Nuremberg 2.0
Quote from: #UnleashJosh on February 23, 2026, 03:27:49 PMYawn. Remember, all these regimes come crashing down in the end. Trump will be gone, but thousands of others will face consequences.
Nuremberg 2.0
On the absolute requirement for accountability after all this rather than the Biden & Obama approach to letting it all go:
https://archive.li/x8vv5
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Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on February 23, 2026, 03:33:35 PMOn the absolute requirement for accountability after all this rather than the Biden & Obama approach to letting it all go:
https://archive.li/x8vv5
Hopefully the dems completely get burnt down as well. The two party non ranked voting is entirely why this was able to happen.
And Biden will go down as the 2nd worst president.
Quote from: #UnleashJosh on February 23, 2026, 03:27:49 PMYawn. Remember, all these regimes come crashing down in the end. Trump will be gone, but thousands of others will face consequences.
Nuremberg 2.0
No shot there's accountability.
Why would you believe that at all after the fallout from 1/6?
Quote from: jesmu84 on February 23, 2026, 06:38:55 PMNo shot there's accountability.
Why would you believe that at all after the fallout from 1/6?
Things are going to be different this next time around.
Quote from: jesmu84 on February 23, 2026, 06:38:55 PMNo shot there's accountability.
Why would you believe that at all after the fallout from 1/6?
Because tourism isn't illegal dumbass
Quote from: Shaka Shart on February 23, 2026, 10:02:02 PMBecause tourism isn't illegal dumbass
Killing cops and trespassing are though.
Quote from: #UnleashJosh on February 23, 2026, 10:06:32 PMKilling cops and trespassing are though.
Not if they're tourists
Quote from: jesmu84 on February 23, 2026, 06:38:55 PMNo shot there's accountability.
Why would you believe that at all after the fallout from 1/6?
I have an idea--let's not leave Merrick Garland in charge next time.
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on February 21, 2026, 08:46:41 PMObama deported far larger numbers and crickets.
Wait wait wait, people keep telling me the border was wide open under Democrats. Now we're saying they deported a lot more? Please help me, I'm losing track of which piece of misinformation I'm supposed to believe at the moment.
Quote from: UWW2MU on February 24, 2026, 12:58:18 PMWait wait wait, people keep telling me the border was wide open under Democrats. Now we're saying they deported a lot more? Please help me, I'm losing track of which piece of misinformation I'm supposed to believe at the moment.
Well of course it was wide open, how do you think he deported so many more? Duh!
Has anyone ever seen a wind farm in China? Apparently they dont exist.
Quote from: #UnleashJosh on February 24, 2026, 02:51:49 PMHas anyone ever seen a wind farm in China? Apparently they dont exist.
Of course not, the Chinese don't want their whales to go crazy.
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on February 23, 2026, 03:33:35 PMOn the absolute requirement for accountability after all this rather than the Biden & Obama approach to letting it all go:
https://archive.li/x8vv5
You guys are cute, thinking that anyone is facing consequences for this stuff.
They'll just do blanket prepardons on the last day, and say Biden did it so why not them.
Quote from: Hards Alumni on February 25, 2026, 12:59:37 PMYou guys are cute, thinking that anyone is facing consequences for this stuff.
They'll just do blanket prepardons on the last day, and say Biden did it so why not them.
Oh, I have low expectation they will be held accountable. The premise of the article is that until/unless it happens, we'll continue to be unnatural carnal knowledgeed.
Quote from: Hards Alumni on February 25, 2026, 12:59:37 PMYou guys are cute, thinking that anyone is facing consequences for this stuff.
They'll just do blanket prepardons on the last day, and say Biden did it so why not them.
Accountability lies with the media too. We saw it the first time around where you attempt to both sides things and rehab someone's image because "you have to show the perspective".
So what incentive do you have to not be a screeching dipcrap if you know you will be presented with an opportunity to either rehab or represent it as the standard position
Training for New ICE Agents Is 'Deficient' and 'Broken,' Whistle-Blower Says
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/23/us/politics/ice-training-whistle-blower.html?
An Immigration and Customs Enforcement official who resigned this month from his job instructing new recruits came forward on Monday as a whistle-blower, describing what he said was a "deficient, defective and broken" training program with a pared-back curriculum as the Trump administration races to expand the agency.
The account by Ryan Schwank, a former ICE lawyer who worked at the federal government's law enforcement training academy, coincided with the release by Senate Democrats of several dozen pages of internal ICE records that suggest the Trump administration has curtailed the agency's basic training.
"For the last five months, I watched ICE dismantle the training program," Mr. Schwank said at a forum held in Washington by congressional Democrats. "Cutting 240 hours of vital classes from a 584-hour program — classes that teach the Constitution, our legal system, firearms training, the use of force, lawful arrests, proper detention and the limits of officers' authority."
He added: "New cadets are graduating from the academy despite widespread concerns among training staff that even in the final days of training, the cadets cannot demonstrate a solid grasp of the tactics or the law required to perform their jobs."
Some of the previously unreported documents released on Monday indicate that ICE officers are now training for significantly fewer hours than they did before President Trump's hiring surge. Others suggest that several training classes appear to have been cut from the required syllabus, including one titled "Use of Force Simulation Training" and others on immigration law and ICE's legal authorities.
Well, when you need to cut it to 47 days for symbolic reasons, the non-essential stuff will get cut. Like abiding by the Constitution.
Quote from: cheebs09 on February 26, 2026, 11:41:33 AMWell, when you need to cut it to 47 days for symbolic reasons, the non-essential stuff will get cut. Like abiding by the Constitution.
Yup. Further down in the article, the whistleblower says:
"ICE is teaching cadets to violate the Constitution."
Quote from: cheebs09 on February 26, 2026, 11:41:33 AMWell, when you need to cut it to 47 days for symbolic reasons, the non-essential stuff will get cut. Like abiding by the Constitution.
#FakeNews #Lies
Quote from: Jay Bee on February 26, 2026, 01:07:02 PM#FakeNews #Lies
You're right, the violations of the constitution are strategic and intentional, not an oversight.
Hide your dogs.
Quote from: Pakuni on March 05, 2026, 12:50:11 PMHide your dogs.
Replaced her with the imbecile Markwaynejoebob, though it's still hard to imagine him being more incompetent than the dog murderer.
Quote from: MU82 on March 05, 2026, 01:16:12 PMReplaced her with the imbecile Markwaynejoebob, though it's still hard to imagine him being more incompetent than the dog murderer.
I have been assured both the original hire, as well as her replacement, are "the best people."
Quote from: 18thandWells on March 05, 2026, 01:58:27 PMI have been assured both the original hire, as well as her replacement, are "the best people."
Bro isn't quite as cute as her, tbh. #FreeKristi
Quote from: Jay Bee on March 05, 2026, 02:58:44 PMBro isn't quite as cute as her, tbh. #FreeKristi
Plastic surgeons can work miracles these days.
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Quote from: MU82 on March 05, 2026, 01:16:12 PMReplaced her with the imbecile Markwaynejoebob, though it's still hard to imagine him being more incompetent than the dog murderer.
Firing. OK. Now we need to do accountability. Let's start with misappropriation of funds and work upwards from there.
Markwayne: another hire based on 100% loyalty and 0% knowledge, skill, or competence in the job requirements.
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on March 05, 2026, 05:08:54 PMFiring. OK. Now we need to do accountability. Let's start with misappropriation of funds and work upwards from there.
Markwayne: another hire based on 100% loyalty and 0% knowledge, skill, or competence in the job requirements.
Hey man, he was a plumber, he knows his sh1t.
Just kidding, he's the only member of the senate without a bachelor's degree.
So were these guys.
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Remember joe the plumber
Silver lining on the new nomination is history has shown from his other side of the table that the inevitable congressional hearings should be absolute cinema.
Quote from: CreightonWarrior on March 06, 2026, 05:32:54 AMSilver lining on the new nomination is history has shown from his other side of the table that the inevitable congressional hearings should be absolute cinema.
I'm not so sure. Senators tend to use kid gloves on their colleagues (see: Rubio unanimously confirmed) and I don't expect it'll be much different. Some Dems already are praising the choice.
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5771060-mullin-to-replace-noem/
Quote from: Pakuni on March 06, 2026, 11:21:41 AMI'm not so sure. Senators tend to use kid gloves on their colleagues (see: Rubio unanimously confirmed) and I don't expect it'll be much different. Some Dems already are praising the choice.
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5771060-mullin-to-replace-noem/
i'm talking about the hearings like the ones Mike Vick jr just went through before she got fired. I'm really counting on him challenging someone to a fight when the time comes.
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