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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: 79Warrior on January 19, 2026, 08:27:44 PM

Title: 19-30 from the line
Post by: 79Warrior on January 19, 2026, 08:27:44 PM

Absolutely dreadful. We were fortunate to pull this one out.
Title: Re: 19-30 from the line
Post by: connie on January 19, 2026, 08:36:33 PM
100% correct.  Given the things that had to go right for us to beat a team 2-5 in conference tonight, I'm letting it go.
Title: Re: 19-30 from the line
Post by: panda on January 19, 2026, 08:38:24 PM
The abysmal defense is about 100 times more the reason for the game being close than free throws smh
Title: Re: 19-30 from the line
Post by: cheebs09 on January 19, 2026, 08:39:40 PM
I'm going to enjoy every win this year regardless of how ugly it may be.
Title: Re: 19-30 from the line
Post by: Jay Bee on January 19, 2026, 08:52:49 PM
#FTsNoMatta
Title: Re: 19-30 from the line
Post by: Elonsmusk on January 19, 2026, 09:02:18 PM
Quote from: panda on January 19, 2026, 08:38:24 PMThe abysmal defense is about 100 times more the reason for the game being close than free throws smh

Yep..we got outscored by 10 at the FT line. That no "matta." Numerous missed front ends of 1 and 1.  Did you know if you make the front end you get another FT and thus increase FT attempts?  And I've been told FT attempts "matta." 
Title: Re: 19-30 from the line
Post by: panda on January 19, 2026, 09:05:53 PM
Quote from: Elonsmusk on January 19, 2026, 09:02:18 PMYep..we got outscored by 10 at the FT line. That no "matta." Numerous missed front ends of 1 and 1.  Did you know if you make the front end you get another FT and thus increase FT attempts?  And I've been told FT attempts "matta." 

Yet we still won. The game was close because we couldn't get stops. We could've went 9-30 and still won if we played a modicum of defense
Title: Re: 19-30 from the line
Post by: Elonsmusk on January 19, 2026, 09:07:07 PM
Quote from: panda on January 19, 2026, 09:05:53 PMYet we still won. The game was close because we couldn't get stops. We could've went 9-30 and still won if we played a modicum of defense

Hey let's find something more to complain about.  My name is Panda.  And that is what I do.
Title: Re: 19-30 from the line
Post by: GB Warrior on January 19, 2026, 09:08:39 PM
2 outta 3 ain't bad
Title: Re: 19-30 from the line
Post by: Elonsmusk on January 19, 2026, 09:08:51 PM
Quote from: panda on January 19, 2026, 09:05:53 PMYet we still won. The game was close because we couldn't get stops. We could've went 9-30 and still won if we played a modicum of defense

And if only Dan Hurley was a good coach..how could Providence put up 98 on UCONN?  They also beat St John's and Creighton too decent teams.
Title: Re: 19-30 from the line
Post by: panda on January 19, 2026, 09:11:01 PM
Quote from: Elonsmusk on January 19, 2026, 09:07:07 PMHey let's find something more to complain about.  My name is Panda.  And that is what I do.

In a thread meant to complain about something, I (rightfully) corrected the original poster.

We could've shot worse from the line and that still isn't the issue with this team.

We couldn't get stops tonight and that was the main reason the game was close.
Title: Re: 19-30 from the line
Post by: 79Warrior on January 19, 2026, 09:26:33 PM
Quote from: panda on January 19, 2026, 09:11:01 PMIn a thread meant to complain about something, I (rightfully) corrected the original poster.

We could've shot worse from the line and that still isn't the issue with this team.

We couldn't get stops tonight and that was the main reason the game was close.
Quote from: panda on January 19, 2026, 09:11:01 PMIn a thread meant to complain about something, I (rightfully) corrected the original poster.

We could've shot worse from the line and that still isn't the issue with this team.

We couldn't get stops tonight and that was the main reason the game was close.

You can make all the stops you want, still have to put the ball in the hoop.
Title: Re: 19-30 from the line
Post by: Spaniel with a Short Tail on January 19, 2026, 09:44:59 PM
Missed free throws?

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Title: Re: 19-30 from the line
Post by: brewcity77 on January 19, 2026, 11:02:08 PM
I'm usually in camp FT no matta, but every miss tonight was significant. Shoot our average and we win in regulation. Shoot what PC did and it's not really in doubt. We overcame a lot to get that win, including poor foul shooting.
Title: Re: 19-30 from the line
Post by: BM1090 on January 19, 2026, 11:05:19 PM
Quote from: panda on January 19, 2026, 09:05:53 PMYet we still won. The game was close because we couldn't get stops. We could've went 9-30 and still won if we played a modicum of defense

Providence's last five games they've scored 98 against Uconn, 93 against Creighton, 82 against Nova and 84 against X. They also scored 110 against Butler. They had 94 in regulation today. That's been typical for them lately. Unfortunately for them, they've also given up a crap ton of points.
Title: Re: 19-30 from the line
Post by: willie warrior on January 20, 2026, 05:45:26 AM
Quote from: panda on January 19, 2026, 09:05:53 PMYet we still won. The game was close because we couldn't get stops. We could've went 9-30 and still won if we played a modicum of defense
The only guy on MU that plays a modicum of defense is Chase, and that ain't saying much.
Title: Re: 19-30 from the line
Post by: brewcity77 on January 20, 2026, 07:52:35 AM
Quote from: willie warrior on January 20, 2026, 05:45:26 AMThe only guy on MU that plays a modicum of defense is Chase, and that ain't saying much.

Tre Norman plays good defense. Liability on the other end, but his defense was the reason he got run at the end of the game last night when Chase fouled out.
Title: Re: 19-30 from the line
Post by: nyg on January 20, 2026, 08:35:16 AM
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 20, 2026, 07:52:35 AMTre Norman plays good defense. Liability on the other end, but his defense was the reason he got run at the end of the game last night when Chase fouled out.

Great defense when he fouled on a three point shot one minute after he entered the game.

Shaka had no other choice but to play him, unless he went to Phillips or the walk ons.  Stevens was already out with five fouls.
Title: Re: 19-30 from the line
Post by: panda on January 20, 2026, 08:41:38 AM
Quote from: BM1090 on January 19, 2026, 11:05:19 PMProvidence's last five games they've scored 98 against Uconn, 93 against Creighton, 82 against Nova and 84 against X. They also scored 110 against Butler. They had 94 in regulation today. That's been typical for them lately. Unfortunately for them, they've also given up a crap ton of points.

Fair good point
Title: Re: 19-30 from the line
Post by: panda on January 20, 2026, 08:43:35 AM
Quote from: 79Warrior on January 19, 2026, 09:26:33 PMYou can make all the stops you want, still have to put the ball in the hoop.


And boy did we! Last night was our second most offensively efficient performance of the season. #defensematters
Title: Re: 19-30 from the line
Post by: brewcity77 on January 20, 2026, 09:01:54 AM
Quote from: nyg on January 20, 2026, 08:35:16 AMGreat defense when he fouled on a three point shot one minute after he entered the game.

Shaka had no other choice but to play him, unless he went to Phillips or the walk ons.  Stevens was already out with five fouls.

Good defenders have bad plays. I'm not a Norman fan, but he's good on that end of the floor.
Title: Re: 19-30 from the line
Post by: Scoop Snoop on January 20, 2026, 09:15:29 AM
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 20, 2026, 09:01:54 AMGood defenders have bad plays. I'm not a Norman fan, but he's good on that end of the floor.

Glad to see you back posting Brew. And for providing another view of Norman. Like many fans, I often do not appreciate good defensive players enough.
Title: Re: 19-30 from the line
Post by: Big Papi on January 20, 2026, 09:26:01 AM
19-30 is not good.  James going 3-3 with the game on the line is impressive.  That kid is a gamer.  He should be involved in all end of game plays.

Defense sucks and I have been down on Owens all year but that steal at the end was great to see from him. 

Hopefully this win gives the team more confidence the rest of the year. 
Title: Re: 19-30 from the line
Post by: MU82 on January 20, 2026, 09:39:10 AM
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 19, 2026, 11:02:08 PMI'm usually in camp FT no matta, but every miss tonight was significant. Shoot our average and we win in regulation. Shoot what PC did and it's not really in doubt. We overcame a lot to get that win, including poor foul shooting.

Yup. While our poor defense contributed strongly to the game almost having been lost, the dreadful performance from the line was a killer that kept us from having a late lead in regulation.

Survived it only because NJ made those three at the end of regulation. Clutch!
Title: Re: 19-30 from the line
Post by: wadesworld on January 20, 2026, 09:57:52 AM
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 20, 2026, 07:52:35 AMTre Norman plays good defense. Liability on the other end, but his defense was the reason he got run at the end of the game last night when Chase fouled out.

He normally is, but I thought he was brutal on defense last night.  Consistently blown by off the dribble while he's trying to get into a guy 38 feet from the hoop, and fouling a 3 point shooter at a key moment.
Title: Re: 19-30 from the line
Post by: WellsstreetWanderer on January 20, 2026, 10:24:15 AM
I thought our movement off the ball contributed to this win. Finally creating choices for defenses and freeing up a lot of bunnies
Title: Re: 19-30 from the line
Post by: MU82 on January 20, 2026, 10:35:42 AM
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on January 20, 2026, 10:24:15 AMI thought our movement off the ball contributed to this win. Finally creating choices for defenses and freeing up a lot of bunnies
.

I thought Owens did an especially nice job of cutting and making himself available.
Title: Re: 19-30 from the line
Post by: brewcity77 on January 20, 2026, 10:50:44 AM
Quote from: wadesworld on January 20, 2026, 09:57:52 AMHe normally is, but I thought he was brutal on defense last night.  Consistently blown by off the dribble while he's trying to get into a guy 38 feet from the hoop, and fouling a 3 point shooter at a key moment.

He played all of 4 minutes before Chase fouled out. At that point, Stevens was also out.

NJ, Owens, Parham, & Ben on the floor. The options were Phillips for shooting, Norman for defense, or one of the bigs who had 2 minutes combined on the night. All I was saying is he typically plays good defense, certainly better than Phillips, and that's why he finished the game.
Title: Re: 19-30 from the line
Post by: wadesworld on January 20, 2026, 11:03:43 AM
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 20, 2026, 10:50:44 AMHe played all of 4 minutes before Chase fouled out. At that point, Stevens was also out.

NJ, Owens, Parham, & Ben on the floor. The options were Phillips for shooting, Norman for defense, or one of the bigs who had 2 minutes combined on the night. All I was saying is he typically plays good defense, certainly better than Phillips, and that's why he finished the game.

I agree.  I just meant that I thought Norman is normally a good defender, but last night he was not.  We don't have a lot of talent on the team, and when we get into foul trouble the options aren't great.
Title: Re: 19-30 from the line
Post by: Stretchdeltsig on January 20, 2026, 11:30:15 AM
Shaka seems to down play the importance of free throws which is costing this team wins.
Title: Re: 19-30 from the line
Post by: wisblue on January 20, 2026, 12:02:59 PM
Quote from: Stretchdeltsig on January 20, 2026, 11:30:15 AMShaka seems to down play the importance of free throws which is costing this team wins.

Are you saying he should remind the players to try to make their free throws?
Title: Re: 19-30 from the line
Post by: Jay Bee on January 20, 2026, 12:39:09 PM
Quote from: Stretchdeltsig on January 20, 2026, 11:30:15 AMShaka seems to down play the importance of free throws which is costing this team wins.

#FakeNews #Lies

#FTsNoMatta
Title: Re: 19-30 from the line
Post by: Tha Hound on January 20, 2026, 03:01:58 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on January 20, 2026, 09:57:52 AMHe normally is, but I thought he was brutal on defense last night.  Consistently blown by off the dribble while he's trying to get into a guy 38 feet from the hoop, and fouling a 3 point shooter at a key moment.

Agreed. Not just him, though. Every single perimeter defender was getting blown by off the dribble last night. Every single one. We play halfway competent D and that game is over much earlier.
Title: Re: 19-30 from the line
Post by: Newsdreams on February 10, 2026, 08:49:51 PM
90% from FT line!!!!
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