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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Warrior of Law on January 18, 2026, 08:38:13 AM

Title: Beat the Friars!
Post by: Warrior of Law on January 18, 2026, 08:38:13 AM
Let's get that winning streak started again (or at least another W). With home games vs. Butler and DePaul still to come, there is distinct hope that MU avoid finishing last in the league. Fire up the deflections and rebounding and MU can finish ahead of 3-4 teams. Which is another way of saying the bottom of the Big East is absolute trash.
Title: Re: Beat the Friars!
Post by: NCMUFan on January 18, 2026, 08:57:44 AM
Great ambitions!
Title: Re: Beat the Friars!
Post by: Scoop Snoop on January 18, 2026, 09:28:06 AM
I went to a Dominican HS-Fenwick-in the Chicago burb of Oak Park. Even though it was many decades ago, I remember the Dominicans well but not fondly. I would love to punch that creepy Dominican mascot but A) I would be punching a student, who would probably then beat the crap out of me and B) I'd wind up in the slammer.  I'll settle for a win over Providence, but considering what they did to St. Johns, Creighton and almost did to UCONN, it is a tall order.
Title: Re: Beat the Friars!
Post by: We R Final Four on January 18, 2026, 09:44:42 AM
I think there is benefit to finishing last in the league.
Last in the league would absolutely demand change.
7th or 8th place could allow for "we have seen some growth, let's just tweek it."
Title: Re: Beat the Friars!
Post by: WhiteTrash on January 18, 2026, 10:05:52 AM
Quote from: We R Final Four on January 18, 2026, 09:44:42 AMI think there is benefit to finishing last in the league.
Last in the league would absolutely demand change.
7th or 8th place could allow for "we have seen some growth, let's just tweek it."
I'm not sure where 3,4 or 5 wins would land us in the standings,  but if that doesn't show or motivate Shaka to make changes, he's no longer the man for MU.

IMO, Shaka has seen the light, will change course and is our best option to restore the program.
Title: Re: Beat the Friars!
Post by: Shooter McGavin on January 18, 2026, 10:10:19 AM
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on January 18, 2026, 09:28:06 AMI went to a Dominican HS-Fenwick-in the Chicago burb of Oak Park. Even though it was many decades ago, I remember the Dominicans well but not fondly. I would love to punch that creepy Dominican mascot but A) I would be punching a student, who would probably then beat the crap out of me and b) I'd wind up in the slammer.  I'll settle for a win over Providence, but considering what they did to St. Johns, Creighton and almost did to UCONN, it is a tall order.

March Fenwick, march down the field!
Title: Re: Beat the Friars!
Post by: Galway Eagle on January 18, 2026, 11:17:08 AM
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on January 18, 2026, 09:28:06 AMI went to a Dominican HS-Fenwick-in the Chicago burb of Oak Park. Even though it was many decades ago, I remember the Dominicans well but not fondly. I would love to punch that creepy Dominican mascot but A) I would be punching a student, who would probably then beat the crap out of me and B) I'd wind up in the slammer.  I'll settle for a win over Providence, but considering what they did to St. Johns, Creighton and almost did to UCONN, it is a tall order.

Boo

Also what years?
Title: Re: Beat the Friars!
Post by: Billy Hoyle on January 18, 2026, 11:40:58 AM
Quote from: We R Final Four on January 18, 2026, 09:44:42 AMI think there is benefit to finishing last in the league.
Last in the league would absolutely demand change.
7th or 8th place could allow for "we have seen some growth, let's just tweek it."

It's too bad finishing last won't get us the first pick from the Portal. Of course, Shaka would trade it for the rights to a couple of zero star big man prospects who weren't offered by the low majors in their own region.
Title: Re: Beat the Friars!
Post by: Scoop Snoop on January 18, 2026, 11:50:20 AM
Quote from: Galway Eagle on January 18, 2026, 11:17:08 AMBoo

Also what years?

I'm one of Scoop's fossils, so '62-'66. Fenwick actually had a priest-Father Berrigan- whose title was Disciplinarian. One time when our entire class was kept after school for some infraction by a couple of guys, we sat there silently with Berrigan sternly glowering over us. I had a dentist appointment and, feeling kinda porky that day, raised my hand, told him about the appointment, and asked if he could just slap me around for a bit and then let me go. The class roared with laughter, and even Berrigan laughed. Then he let us go.  ;D 
Title: Re: Beat the Friars!
Post by: We R Final Four on January 18, 2026, 11:51:28 AM
Quote from: WhiteTrash on January 18, 2026, 10:05:52 AMI'm not sure where 3,4 or 5 wins would land us in the standings,  but if that doesn't show or motivate Shaka to make changes, he's no longer the man for MU.

IMO, Shaka has seen the light, will change course and is our best option to restore the program.
Just curious.....how has Shaka "seen" the light?
Title: Re: Beat the Friars!
Post by: Galway Eagle on January 18, 2026, 12:13:19 PM
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on January 18, 2026, 11:50:20 AMI'm one of Scoop's fossils, so '62-'66. Fenwick actually had a priest-Father Berrigan- whose title was Disciplinarian. One time when our entire class was kept after school for some infraction by a couple of guys, we sat there silently with Berrigan sternly glowering over us. I had a dentist appointment and, feeling kinda porky that day, raised my hand, told him about the appointment, and asked if he could just slap me around for a bit and then let me go. The class roared with laughter, and even Berrigan laughed. Then he let us go.  ;D 

Oh that's a just small 30yrs before I would've known anyone there haha

Will never let go of the cross town rivalry though.
Title: Re: Beat the Friars!
Post by: WhiteTrash on January 18, 2026, 01:04:41 PM
Quote from: We R Final Four on January 18, 2026, 11:51:28 AMJust curious.....how has Shaka "seen" the light?
As I said, it is an opinion, no evidence yet. I based my opinion on the body of his work as a head coach. I truly believe he is the same driven and competitive person who rose to the highest levels of college basketball.

I don't think it serves him, the players or MU well to publicly reveal what the off season plan is. I'd expect the exact same public facing message if he's 100% in to change as he would be if he's 100% committed to staying the course.  Thus nothing can be pointed to as definitive.

I could be wrong and MU will be in the market for HC, and MU will be okay. I just wouldn't bet on it.
Title: Re: Beat the Friars!
Post by: tower912 on January 18, 2026, 01:20:32 PM
I could resurrect my game recaps for this one just so I can use the thread title 'Err Friar'
Title: Re: Beat the Friars!
Post by: Spaniel with a Short Tail on January 18, 2026, 01:49:22 PM
Quote from: WhiteTrash on January 18, 2026, 01:04:41 PMAs I said, it is an opinion, no evidence yet. I based my opinion on the body of his work as a head coach. I truly believe he is the same driven and competitive person who rose to the highest levels of college basketball.

I don't think it serves him, the players or MU well to publicly reveal what the off season plan is. I'd expect the exact same public facing message if he's 100% in to change as he would be if he's 100% committed to staying the course.  Thus nothing can be pointed to as definitive.

I could be wrong and MU will be in the market for HC, and MU will be okay. I just wouldn't bet on it.

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Title: Re: Beat the Friars!
Post by: K1 Lover on January 18, 2026, 01:51:32 PM
Line opened at Marquette -1.5. Providence should be favored, in my opinion, but I also have a feeling Marquette wins this one. Friars haven't been great on the road and we're due for a surprise W.
Title: Re: Beat the Friars!
Post by: willie warrior on January 18, 2026, 01:55:54 PM
Quote from: WhiteTrash on January 18, 2026, 10:05:52 AMI'm not sure where 3,4 or 5 wins would land us in the standings,  but if that doesn't show or motivate Shaka to make changes, he's no longer the man for MU.

IMO, Shaka has seen the light, will change course and is our best option to restore the program.
What makes you think Shaka has seen the light? Evidence?
Title: Re: Beat the Friars!
Post by: loid walden on January 18, 2026, 02:04:48 PM
Quote from: tower912 on January 18, 2026, 01:20:32 PMI could resurrect my game recaps for this one just so I can use the thread title 'Err Friar'
Resurrect the recaps anyway, please. They are what I enjoy the most.
Title: Re: Beat the Friars!
Post by: WhiteTrash on January 18, 2026, 02:23:37 PM
Quote from: willie warrior on January 18, 2026, 01:55:54 PMWhat makes you think Shaka has seen the light? Evidence?
Good questions. See above.
Title: Re: Beat the Friars!
Post by: muwarrior69 on January 18, 2026, 02:37:36 PM
Quote from: tower912 on January 18, 2026, 01:20:32 PMI could resurrect my game recaps for this one just so I can use the thread title 'Err Friar'
...or "out of the Friar pan and into the fire" which has been this season thus far.
Title: Re: Beat the Friars!
Post by: tower912 on January 18, 2026, 02:46:53 PM
Used it.
Title: Re: Beat the Friars!
Post by: illiniwarriors on January 18, 2026, 03:42:11 PM
March friars march men of steel. Fenwick Class of 65.
Title: Re: Beat the Friars!
Post by: Scoop Snoop on January 18, 2026, 04:23:40 PM
Quote from: illiniwarriors on January 18, 2026, 03:42:11 PMMarch friars march men of steel. Fenwick Class of 65.

I wonder if you were the Senior I dumped a bucket of water on from a second story window when I was a Junior.
Title: Re: Beat the Friars!
Post by: We R Final Four on January 18, 2026, 05:17:27 PM
Quote from: WhiteTrash on January 18, 2026, 01:04:41 PMAs I said, it is an opinion, no evidence yet. I based my opinion on the body of his work as a head coach. I truly believe he is the same driven and competitive person who rose to the highest levels of college basketball.

I don't think it serves him, the players or MU well to publicly reveal what the off season plan is. I'd expect the exact same public facing message if he's 100% in to change as he would be if he's 100% committed to staying the course.  Thus nothing can be pointed to as definitive.

I could be wrong and MU will be in the market for HC, and MU will be okay. I just wouldn't bet on it.
Oh gotcha.....I too am hopeful that Shaka "sees" the light.
Title: Re: Beat the Friars!
Post by: willie warrior on January 18, 2026, 06:13:46 PM
Quote from: We R Final Four on January 18, 2026, 05:17:27 PMOh gotcha.....I too am hopeful that Shaka "sees" the light.
Gotcha. Transparency and unwillingness to admit that he has to change somehow are not important
Title: Re: Beat the Friars!
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on January 18, 2026, 07:46:53 PM
Marquette is favored by 1.5 On FOX and ESPN
Title: Re: Beat the Friars!
Post by: Viper on January 18, 2026, 07:49:20 PM
Hopeful for a W with James, Stevens, Owens, Phillips, Parham and Clark getting majority of PT. There's always hope, right?
Title: Re: Beat the Friars!
Post by: Tums Festival on January 19, 2026, 04:20:24 AM
Quote from: We R Final Four on January 18, 2026, 11:51:28 AMJust curious.....how has Shaka "seen" the light?

If Hamilton stops getting minutes then maybe there's some hope.
Title: Re: Beat the Friars!
Post by: burger on January 19, 2026, 07:59:10 AM
Doubtful.....What's the spread????   LOL!
Title: Re: Beat the Friars!
Post by: panda on January 19, 2026, 08:32:48 AM
Quote from: burger on January 19, 2026, 07:59:10 AMDoubtful.....What's the spread????   LOL!

dont they drop the lines on your book 4 or 5 days before the game?
Title: Re: Beat the Friars!
Post by: Miss Katie’s on January 19, 2026, 08:49:02 AM
Quote from: loid walden on January 18, 2026, 02:04:48 PMResurrect the recaps anyway, please. They are what I enjoy the most.

I second this.  Miss them!
Title: Re: Beat the Friars!
Post by: MUbiz on January 19, 2026, 08:58:51 AM
Quote from: burger on January 19, 2026, 07:59:10 AMDoubtful.....What's the spread????   LOL!

MU -1.5
Title: Re: Beat the Friars!
Post by: Scoop Snoop on January 19, 2026, 09:04:04 AM
Quote from: MUbiz on January 19, 2026, 08:58:51 AMMU -1.5

Strange. Providence took UCONN to OT, beat SJU, and also beat Creighton. Three teams that had no problem taking us down. And we are -1.5. Go figure.
Title: Re: Beat the Friars!
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on January 19, 2026, 09:15:10 AM
Before beating Creighton. Providence had lost their last 3 games I believe. Beat them again!
Title: Re: Beat the Friars!
Post by: tower912 on January 19, 2026, 10:03:09 AM
I bequeath the recap.  For this game, someone can be heir Friar.
Title: Re: Beat the Friars!
Post by: Zog from Margo on January 19, 2026, 10:22:59 AM
Quote from: willie warrior on January 18, 2026, 06:13:46 PMGotcha. Transparency and unwillingness to admit that he has to change somehow are not important

He's in the middle of the season. It's been crap but who wants a coach that will throw his current players under the bus by saying he should have replaced them in the portal and effectively give up on the rest of the season? Not me. Shaka has been a good coach at MU until this season. I think we'll see roster and staff changes after the season. Besides. I'm not convinced the MU job would attract anyone better.
Title: Re: Beat the Friars!
Post by: Scoop Snoop on January 19, 2026, 03:58:27 PM
Quote from: tower912 on January 19, 2026, 10:03:09 AMI bequeath the recap.  For this game, someone can be heir Friar.

So you want us to hire a friar prior to the fire of tonight's game?
Title: Re: Beat the Friars!
Post by: tower912 on January 19, 2026, 04:06:21 PM
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on January 19, 2026, 03:58:27 PMSo you want us to hire a friar prior to the fire of tonight's game?
I aspire to higher. A buyer, not liar, to inquire about the  dire quagmire of a dumpster pyre.  One who will wire, not tire.
Title: Re: Beat the Friars!
Post by: Scoop Snoop on January 19, 2026, 04:09:08 PM
Quote from: tower912 on January 19, 2026, 04:06:21 PMI aspire to higher. A buyer, not liar, to inquire about the  dire quagmire of a dumpster pyre.  One who will wire, not tire.

Kudos, Sire!
Title: Re: Beat the Friars!
Post by: tower912 on January 19, 2026, 04:12:04 PM
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on January 19, 2026, 04:09:08 PMKudos, Sire!
And no retirement requirement.
Title: Re: Beat the Friars!
Post by: Galway Eagle on January 19, 2026, 07:11:42 PM
Quote from: tower912 on January 19, 2026, 04:12:04 PMAnd no retirement requirement.

A sentiment to admire
Title: Re: Beat the Friars!
Post by: tower912 on January 19, 2026, 07:33:34 PM
Sapphire!
Title: Re: Beat the Friars!
Post by: Scoop Snoop on January 19, 2026, 08:29:34 PM
Quote from: tower912 on January 19, 2026, 07:33:34 PMSapphire!

We took the friars to the wire and put out their fire.
Title: Re: Beat the Friars!
Post by: Spaniel with a Short Tail on January 19, 2026, 09:28:48 PM
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Title: Re: Beat the Friars!
Post by: MU82 on January 19, 2026, 11:11:30 PM
The win saved my 1-1 trip. MU had won 14 straight games I attended. Then we lost to UConn on NMD last season and fell apart at DePaul on Friday.

Glad Nigel & Co. halted that losing streak at 2 for me!
Title: Re: Beat the Friars!
Post by: Scoop Snoop on January 20, 2026, 10:06:01 AM
Quote from: tower912 on January 19, 2026, 07:33:34 PMSapphire!

OK, let's ratchet it up. What wording can you offer for our next opponent?
Title: Re: Beat the Friars!
Post by: MU82 on January 20, 2026, 10:38:35 AM
Announced attendance was about 14K ... but it was as empty as I've ever seen Fiserv. Maybe 7500?
Title: Re: Beat the Friars!
Post by: tower912 on January 20, 2026, 10:42:07 AM
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on January 20, 2026, 10:06:01 AMOK, let's ratchet it up. What wording can you offer for our next opponent?
Butler Bulldogs?  Ouch.
Title: Re: Beat the Friars!
Post by: We R Final Four on January 20, 2026, 10:44:43 AM
Cold as hell.
Holiday.
Odd start time.
Not a must see team.

Looked closer to 5K
Title: Re: Beat the Friars!
Post by: Scoop Snoop on January 20, 2026, 11:17:58 AM
Quote from: tower912 on January 20, 2026, 10:42:07 AMButler Bulldogs?  Ouch.

Okay. I get it. You take only the easy word challenges. Thanks for being honest about this. 
Title: Re: Beat the Friars!
Post by: tower912 on January 20, 2026, 11:24:16 AM
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on January 20, 2026, 11:17:58 AMOkay. I get it. You take only the easy word challenges. Thanks for being honest about this. 
I feel like a cog while I slog through the dog bog.  I am in a fog, not agog, trying to jog the old nog(gin). I am making prog.
Title: Re: Beat the Friars!
Post by: tower912 on January 20, 2026, 11:36:59 AM
Apologies to from Margo, Zog
Title: Re: Beat the Friars!
Post by: MU82 on January 20, 2026, 12:22:42 PM
Quote from: We R Final Four on January 20, 2026, 10:44:43 AMCold as hell.
Holiday.
Odd start time.
Not a must see team.

Looked closer to 5K

Might have been. The place felt empty.
Title: Re: Beat the Friars!
Post by: hawk on January 20, 2026, 12:41:13 PM
Does anybody know the scoop on Jones?  It looked to me like Stevens was handling the ball more than usual.  Are rthey groomming him to play point when James is out instead of Norman? 
Title: Re: Beat the Friars!
Post by: GoFastAndWin on January 20, 2026, 01:09:00 PM
Quote from: tower912 on January 19, 2026, 04:06:21 PMI aspire to higher. A buyer, not liar, to inquire about the  dire quagmire of a dumpster pyre.  One who will wire, not tire.

Glad our Warrior 🦅s didn't wallow in the mire!
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