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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: SchnitzelBoy on January 17, 2026, 09:42:33 AM

Title: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: SchnitzelBoy on January 17, 2026, 09:42:33 AM
So obviously this is a lost season.

I think the coaching malpractice started last offseason when there wasn't a portal add. I get that Shaka thought Sean Jones would be back midway + the Damarius injuries slowed him down. And then the whole team was banged up down the stretch (3/5 starters were blatantly hobbled and some even needed postseason surgery). But we had a window to make a deep run with that senior class and Shaka allowed the RGV model to drastically lower the ceiling.

This year, it's even worse and with little to point to that's out of MU's control.

I still think Shaka is the right coach for MU and his recruiting has looked promising in recent years. Nigel, Adrien, Michael Phillips are "hits" or even "grand slams." Sheek and Alex look VERY promising.

But his credibility is severely damaged by this season and even last year.

What gets it back?
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: panda on January 17, 2026, 09:52:58 AM
Quote from: SchnitzelBoy on January 17, 2026, 09:42:33 AMSo obviously this is a lost season.

I think the coaching malpractice started last offseason when there wasn't a portal add. I get that Shaka thought Sean Jones would be back midway + the Damarius injuries slowed him down. And then the whole team was banged up down the stretch (3/5 starters were blatantly hobbled and some even needed postseason surgery). But we had a window to make a deep run with that senior class and Shaka allowed the RGV model to drastically lower the ceiling.

This year, it's even worse and with little to point to that's out of MU's control.

I still think Shaka is the right coach for MU and his recruiting has looked promising in recent years. Nigel, Adrien, Michael Phillips are "hits" or even "grand slams." Sheek and Alex look VERY promising.

But his credibility is severely damaged by this season and even last year.

What gets it back?

Sheek and Alex are yet to play a college game. Phillips can barely get on the floor this year on the worst high major roster in the country. Would hardly declare success on those fronts.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: Zog from Margo on January 17, 2026, 09:55:46 AM
I wouldn't go beyond "promising" for any of the freshmen or incoming recruits. To say they're "hits" or possibly "grand slams" is premature. James had flashes of both good and bad last night. Stevens looks like he might be a Mitchell type player. There are no stars on this roster and there are some that are not BE players. To do RGV, you likely need some potential one and done recruits. Shaka needs to hit the portal to rebuild the depleted roster and hit on some top 25 players if he's going to rely primarily on RGV. You also need to play some defense.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: 79Warrior on January 17, 2026, 10:49:22 AM


James has the makings of a grand slam. He played like a freshman last night, but Shaka can hardly sit him. He has no options at PG with Sean out. He will just play through the rough nights. Needs to learn to play more in control. He will get there. Huge upside. The rest, the jury is out.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: Scoop Snoop on January 17, 2026, 11:02:34 AM
Quote from: Zog from Margo on January 17, 2026, 09:55:46 AMI wouldn't go beyond "promising" for any of the freshmen or incoming recruits. To say they're "hits" or possibly "grand slams" is premature. James had flashes of both good and bad last night. Stevens looks like he might be a Mitchell type player. There are no stars on this roster and there are some that are not BE players. To do RGV, you likely need some potential one and done recruits. Shaka needs to hit the portal to rebuild the depleted roster and hit on some top 25 players if he's going to rely primarily on RGV. You also need to play some defense.

F RGV! I don't think Shaka will completely give it up, and I do not believe that RGV 2.0 or a patched-up version of it will bring us back to prominence. My guess is that going forward, our ceiling would be 6th place in the BE. The analogy of a building that has to be scheduled for demolition because it is structurally unsound fits here. College bball is a business, and the rules of the marketplace are what they are. Coaches cannot write their own and expect success.

If John Gasaway, author of Miracles on the Hardwood, decided to write a book about Shaka's tenure at Marquette, I would propose as a title The Tale of Two Shakas, and begin page one with:

         It was the best of Marquette basketball. It was the worst of Marquette basketball.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: Zog from Margo on January 17, 2026, 11:26:39 AM
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on January 17, 2026, 11:02:34 AMF RGV! I don't think Shaka will completely give it up, and I do not believe that RGV 2.0 or a patched-up version of it will bring us back to prominence. My guess is that going forward, our ceiling would be 6th place in the BE. The analogy of a building that has to be scheduled for demolition because it is structurally unsound fits here. College bball is a business, and the rules of the marketplace are what they are. Coaches cannot write their own and expect success.

If John Gasaway, author of Miracles on the Hardwood, decided to write a book about Shaka's tenure at Marquette, I would propose as a title The Tale of Two Shakas, and begin page one with:

         It was the best of Marquette basketball. It was the worst of Marquette basketball.

IMO, the issues are lack of talent, lack of players with high basketball IQs, and lack of players who fit how MU wants to play. (I also wonder how easy it is to find players that both fit Shaka's pressure style of defense and Smith's 3-focused offense.) MU needs to fix those issues and I don't really care how they do it. That said, to do that quickly so my season tickets are somewhat worth it next year, Shaka has to hit the portal.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: burger on January 17, 2026, 12:06:37 PM
Shaka needs to say:

I take full responsibility for this team.   And analyzing how I can do things differently going forward.....

We will agressively focus on getting this team back the top of the Big East.

No stone to be left unturned.....We will field the best 12 to 15 players we can attract....

This is about winning.....Relationships are secondary.....

I own this year's lack of success.....

COPY....PASTE.   RELEASE TO THE PRESS.....from Shaka..... to the student body and alumni......
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: Scoop Snoop on January 17, 2026, 12:13:24 PM
Quote from: Zog from Margo on January 17, 2026, 11:26:39 AMIMO, the issues are lack of talent, lack of players with high basketball IQs, and lack of players who fit how MU wants to play. (I also wonder how easy it is to find players that both fit Shaka's pressure style of defense and Smith's 3-focused offense.) MU needs to fix those issues and I don't really care how they do it. That said, to do that quickly so my season tickets are somewhat worth it next year, Shaka has to hit the portal.

I like your lack comments and, if he was on Scoop, Shaka would lack likes.

In another thread, I replied to Vander and said that some of my harsh criticisms are a carryover from my days as an entrepreneur. Ignore serious structural problems in your business and you will soon need to learn how to file Chapter 11 bankruptcy. As very happy as I was when Marquette landed Shaka and his first seasons, his unwillingness (I think) to dump this terrible product, RGV, is why I very reluctantly believe he needs to leave. Marquette basketball is in Chapter 11, and he put us there. 

Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: Viper on January 17, 2026, 12:33:50 PM
I know nothing about the AD, Broeker. My guess...and just a guess, is that he is not a hard asss 'just win, baby' kinda guy. IMO, the debrief after the 1st rd BET exit should be...drop the RGV bs. Cut some guys. Assist in finding new mid-major homes is fine, but move on from two or three players over-matched at this level, and hit the portal. We're going to adjust how guys are paid. If someone is unhappy over that, show em out. 20+ L's is beyond embarrassing at Marquette. This isn't happening again under my watch as AD.

I'm not confident this will happen, but hey, I'm just guessin' here.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: BM1090 on January 17, 2026, 12:55:59 PM
I think huge issues are lack of control and lack of players that play at their own pace. Tyler, Oso, Kam, Stevie, O Max and even Jop when he played in the post and mid post, all understood the game and how they could set up their own offense and manipulate the defense a bit to get what they wanted. They all did it in their own ways but they had such a good understanding of the scheme and how to play their own game.

There's none of that on this team. It's all breakneck speed. It's launching the first open shot. There's lack of composure. And just an overall lack of understanding of how to play basketball. We get a lot of open shots but they all seem rushed.

Nigel will get there. He's shown some really promising early signs of knowing how to create for himself with hesitation moves and dissecting defenses off the dribble. With that feel, I think he'll learn how to create for others around him and learn how to pick his spots better. Stevens shows some early signs too. He's less dynamic, but I rarely think he's taking shots that he can't make. And he does a good job of getting himself to his spots.

The rest of the roster is rough.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on January 17, 2026, 01:46:59 PM
One season, as horrific as it has been, hasn't destroyed Shaka's credibility. That's silly.

Now, if he doesn't make the necessary adjustments to put a competitive team on the floor next season, that could change.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: PointWarrior on January 17, 2026, 02:22:28 PM
Shaka's forced exit from Texas and now this season - that may be a hit to his credibility...

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on January 17, 2026, 01:46:59 PMOne season, as horrific as it has been, hasn't destroyed Shaka's credibility. That's silly.

Now, if he doesn't make the necessary adjustments to put a competitive team on the floor next season, that could change.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: wadesworld on January 17, 2026, 02:33:24 PM
https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=67592.0

Shaka's credibility is just fine. One of two college basketball coaches on the list.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: WhiteTrash on January 17, 2026, 02:39:19 PM
Quote from: PointWarrior on January 17, 2026, 02:22:28 PMShaka's forced exit from Texas and now this season - that may be a hit to his credibility...

I'll agree that some current players and recruits may decide not to be at MU next year based upon this season, but it not a total reputation or program killer. MU as a program and Shaka as a coach have enough to overcome this.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on January 17, 2026, 02:53:34 PM
Quote from: PointWarrior on January 17, 2026, 02:22:28 PMShaka's forced exit from Texas and now this season - that may be a hit to his credibility...


Highly doubt it.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: Billy Hoyle on January 17, 2026, 03:54:48 PM
leading MU to our worst season (and first 20 loss season) ever will hurt it.

MU is one of three Big East programs, along with UConn (19 in Calhoun's first season) and Nova (19 in 2011-12), to never have a 20 loss season. Barring a miracle that will no longer be the case.

Last 20 loss season:
Butler - 2025
Creighton - 1994
DePaul - 2025 (three in a row)
PC - 2025
Seton Hall - 2025
St. John's - 2016
Georgetown - 2024
Xavier - 1982
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: wadesworld on January 17, 2026, 03:58:33 PM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on January 17, 2026, 03:54:48 PMleading MU to our worst season (and first 20 loss season) ever will hurt it.

MU is one of three Big East programs, along with UConn (19 in Calhoun's first season) and Nova (19 in 2011-12), to never have a 20 loss season. Barring a miracle that will no longer be the case.

Last 20 loss season:
Butler - 2025
Creighton - 1994
DePaul - 2025 (three in a row)
PC - 2025
Seton Hall - 2025
St. John's - 2016
Georgetown - 2024
Xavier - 1982

Do people care about 20 loss seasons? I would've had zero clue, or care, before seeing this list.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: Superfan on January 17, 2026, 04:03:25 PM
I think it demonstrates ineptitude and not something to be proud of. 
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: panda on January 17, 2026, 04:06:20 PM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on January 17, 2026, 03:54:48 PMleading MU to our worst season (and first 20 loss season) ever will hurt it.

MU is one of three Big East programs, along with UConn (19 in Calhoun's first season) and Nova (19 in 2011-12), to never have a 20 loss season. Barring a miracle that will no longer be the case.

Last 20 loss season:
Butler - 2025
Creighton - 1994
DePaul - 2025 (three in a row)
PC - 2025
Seton Hall - 2025
St. John's - 2016
Georgetown - 2024
Xavier - 1982

It's always a treat being mentioned in the same breath as a point shaving DePaul and Patrick ewing's georgetown program.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: wadesworld on January 17, 2026, 04:13:05 PM
Quote from: Superfan on January 17, 2026, 04:03:25 PMI think it demonstrates ineptitude and not something to be proud of. 

Nobody is saying it's something to be proud of. Just never knew this was a thing. If somebody asked me the last time, say, Michigan lost 20 games in a season I'd have no idea if it was 5 years ago, 35 years ago, or never. It's not something I would ever really think about.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: panda on January 17, 2026, 04:15:47 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on January 17, 2026, 04:13:05 PMNobody is saying it's something to be proud of. Just never knew this was a thing. If somebody asked me the last time, say, Michigan lost 20 games in a season I'd have no idea if it was 5 years ago, 35 years ago, or never. It's not something I would ever really think about.

It was probably when Juwan Howard was the coach. He stunk. Or maybe Tommy amaker. Both of them were pretty bad
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: Billy Hoyle on January 17, 2026, 04:16:46 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on January 17, 2026, 03:58:33 PMDo people care about 20 loss seasons? I would've had zero clue, or care, before seeing this list.

It's a rather ignomious accomplishment
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: wadesworld on January 17, 2026, 04:21:17 PM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on January 17, 2026, 04:16:46 PMIt's a rather ignomious accomplishment

Not really. Off the top of your head (although it looks like you've done some research on it) can you name the power 5 teams that had 20 losses last year? If it's as bad as you're claiming, it's just 10 months ago that these teams had 20 losses so it should be easy to do.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: wadesworld on January 17, 2026, 04:22:39 PM
Quote from: panda on January 17, 2026, 04:15:47 PMIt was probably when Juwan Howard was the coach. He stunk. Or maybe Tommy amaker. Both of them were pretty bad

Probably. But I guess that's my point. I couldn't tell you, because it's not something anyone really cares about. Losing 19 games instead of 20 would do nothing to change how this season was, at least if you ask me.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: panda on January 17, 2026, 04:34:12 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on January 17, 2026, 04:22:39 PMProbably. But I guess that's my point. I couldn't tell you, because it's not something anyone really cares about. Losing 19 games instead of 20 would do nothing to change how this season was, at least if you ask me.

Fans may not remember a certain win loss record but they absolutely remember embarrassingly bad teams.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: Viper on January 17, 2026, 04:59:58 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on January 17, 2026, 03:58:33 PMDo people care about 20 loss seasons? I would've had zero clue, or care, before seeing this list.
people do. This isn't just losing, btw. It's asss kickings.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: PointWarrior on January 17, 2026, 05:08:44 PM
Shaka would have some credibility if his current team showed any improvement anywhere - offense, defense, shooting, rebounding, better rotations, inbounds plays, late-game plays -  it's all just crap and not getting any better...
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: Scoop Snoop on January 17, 2026, 05:18:01 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on January 17, 2026, 04:22:39 PMProbably. But I guess that's my point. I couldn't tell you, because it's not something anyone really cares about. Losing 19 games instead of 20 would do nothing to change how this season was, at least if you ask me.

I get that  you see this as not being a big deal. Assuming others see it the same way though? I think it makes a huge difference whether it is your team or someone else's, so the "...really cares about" depends upon whom you are speaking to. I will never be able to forget this season, as much as I wish I could. And it matters to me.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: WhiteTrash on January 17, 2026, 06:13:48 PM
True that nobody can reference the last time X school lost 20 games, just like nobody can reference the last time X school ranked 337th in FG%, but it doesn't mean it's not important.

(Hint: a Milwaukee based school is ranked 337th in FG%)
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: #UnleashJosh on January 17, 2026, 06:31:43 PM
Guys.... yall don't need to keep explaining that Shaka errored with not adding portal players in the off season.


We're All Very well aware
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: Newsdreams on January 17, 2026, 10:16:04 PM
Quote from: Zog from Margo on January 17, 2026, 11:26:39 AMIMO, the issues are lack of talent, lack of players with high basketball IQs, and lack of players who fit how MU wants to play. (I also wonder how easy it is to find players that both fit Shaka's pressure style of defense and Smith's 3-focused offense.) MU needs to fix those issues and I don't really care how they do it. That said, to do that quickly so my season tickets are somewhat worth it next year, Shaka has to hit the portal.
Not a 3 focused offense.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: WellsstreetWanderer on January 18, 2026, 12:37:07 AM
Shaka's credibility is already being damaged
I am constantly asked what is going on at Marquette. People are dismayed at the lack of talent, the big losses and basketball fans are incredulous with the team's downfall. It's a big deal to a lot of people even casual fans
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: 1SE on January 18, 2026, 12:57:35 AM
Some have limited samples, and Shaka's shooters seem to get worse over time, but the frosh leading in 3pt shooting with Nigel at 39%, MP3 at 38%, and Adrien at 37%. If they can keep those numbers and the latter two increase the usage our offense works.

Just need a GD big man...
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: willie warrior on January 18, 2026, 06:32:51 AM
Quote from: panda on January 17, 2026, 04:06:20 PMIt's always a treat being mentioned in the same breath as a point shaving DePaul and Patrick ewing's georgetown program.
The gap continues to widen. What can be done?
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: NCMUFan on January 18, 2026, 07:24:05 AM
Guess he made promises to players he feels he must honor.   Even if it takes down a program that gives him all the resources to succeed.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on January 18, 2026, 08:02:32 AM
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on January 18, 2026, 12:37:07 AMShaka's credibility is already being damaged
I am constantly asked what is going on at Marquette. People are dismayed at the lack of talent, the big losses and basketball fans are incredulous with the team's downfall. It's a big deal to a lot of people even casual fans

Shaka's "credibility" in regard to random basketball fans is meaningless.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: Scoop Snoop on January 18, 2026, 08:40:24 AM
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on January 18, 2026, 08:02:32 AMShaka's "credibility" in regard to random basketball fans is meaningless.

I'm worried that Marquette fans will not just limit their displeasure by not attending games at Fiserv, but resort to other actions like booing, Fire Shaka signs, Use the Portal chants that have already been reported, and so on if they do attend. I HATE when that happens to a coach and his team, whether Marquette or elsewhere. But not believing in the coach gets things like these started. Absolutely no good comes from it. It is 100% negative. Well...except for the visiting team and coach. I'm sure they love it.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on January 18, 2026, 08:55:12 AM
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on January 18, 2026, 08:40:24 AMI'm worried that Marquette fans will not just limit their displeasure by not attending games at Fiserv, but resort to other actions like booing, Fire Shaka signs, Use the Portal chants that have already been reported, and so on if they do attend. I HATE when that happens to a coach and his team, whether Marquette or elsewhere. But not believing in the coach gets things like these started. Absolutely no good comes from it. It is 100% negative. Well...except for the visiting team and coach. I'm sure they love it.

Well, hopefully that idiotic portion of the fanbase is small.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: Shooter McGavin on January 18, 2026, 01:18:10 PM
If the team plays competitively in their home games it won't happen.  Play like they did against Villanova it's all good.  Give up a 15-0 run to DePaul at home and the boo birds will come out.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: WhiteTrash on January 18, 2026, 01:31:10 PM
Quote from: Shooter McGavin on January 18, 2026, 01:18:10 PMIf the team plays competitively in their home games it won't happen.  Play like they did against Villanova it's all good.  Give up a 15-0 run to DePaul at home and the boo birds will come out.
I see no problem with MU fans booing.  All good and passionate fans of quality programs would boo.

MU players and coaches have poured their hearts into being at the highest level of college hoops to get the riches, glory and, sometimes, the boos and anger. They all fully embrace the full experience and risks.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on January 24, 2026, 08:58:32 AM
Posted this in the wrong thread earlier. It is very difficult for a team to fail with a strong program behind it. Feel Shaka has accomplished the almost impossible by self inflicting or self sabotaging this year
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: Scoop Snoop on January 24, 2026, 09:26:35 AM
Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on January 24, 2026, 08:58:32 AMPosted this in the wrong thread earlier. It is very difficult for a team to fail with a strong program behind it. Feel Shaka has accomplished the almost impossible by self inflicting or self sabotaging this year

At the beginning of this horrendous season, some of Shaka's defenders insisted that this was just "one bad season". Eventually, one of those scoopers later conceded that it was a "catastrophe". It took quite a while for the narrative to disappear from scoop that Shaka's stunning success in his first 3 1/2 seasons somehow made this "one bad season" acceptable.

This "one bad season" is the culmination of FOUR years of RGV and recruiting from only HS. Shaka has to be held fully accountable. This is his RGV team. 
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: Mu8891 on January 24, 2026, 09:47:40 AM
Scoop - I agree. It's a total train wreck of Shaka's stupid decisions.

Do you actually think he will be
" held accountable " ?  Not a chance.
No way Broeker or Kimo will do anything...

If you watch and listen to him, I am more and more convinced that he thinks this is fine, his team is " improving " and he will run it back next year.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: tower912 on January 24, 2026, 09:48:15 AM
From the outside, Shaka was just mentioned in an Athletic article as one of the 40 most respected people across all sports.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: vogue65 on January 24, 2026, 09:51:04 AM
Quote from: wadesworld on January 17, 2026, 04:22:39 PMProbably. But I guess that's my point. I couldn't tell you, because it's not something anyone really cares about. Losing 19 games instead of 20 would do nothing to change how this season was, at least if you ask me.

It's not what I think a about, it's the facts. 
Interesting so many BE teams have had losing seasons lately.  It's just a fact. Now think about itl
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: vogue65 on January 24, 2026, 09:53:19 AM
Quote from: Mu8891 on January 24, 2026, 09:47:40 AMScoop - I agree. It's a total train wreck of Shaka's stupid decisions.

Do you actually think he will be
" held accountable " ?  Not a chance.
No way Broeker or Kimo will do anything...

If you watch and listen to him, I am more and more convinced that he thinks this is fine, his team is " improving " and he will run it back next year.

He has a season to complete.
There will be plenty of time to make changes in April.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: Billy Hoyle on January 24, 2026, 09:53:44 AM
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on January 24, 2026, 09:26:35 AMAt the beginning of this horrendous season, some of Shaka's defenders insisted that this was just "one bad season". Eventually, one of those scoopers later conceded that it was a "catastrophe". It took quite a while for the narrative to disappear from scoop that Shaka's stunning success in his first 3 1/2 seasons somehow made this "one bad season" acceptable.

This "one bad season" is the culmination of FOUR years of RGV and recruiting from only HS. Shaka has to be held fully accountable. This is his RGV team. 

Butler is a good example of balanced roster building in the Portal era. They had one of the highest rated HS classes coming in this year while bringing in transfers to fill holes, and not million dollar guys (Jones is a transfer from South Carolina State, Butler from Drexel). They start two recruits and three transfers, and bring two freshmen and two transfers off the bench.  And, like us, they had to move their true freshman PG to the starting lineup after their upperclassman starter got injured.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: Billy Hoyle on January 24, 2026, 09:55:18 AM
Quote from: Mu8891 on January 24, 2026, 09:47:40 AMScoop - I agree. It's a total train wreck of Shaka's stupid decisions.

Do you actually think he will be
" held accountable " ?  Not a chance.
No way Broeker or Kimo will do anything...


If you watch and listen to him, I am more and more convinced that he thinks this is fine, his team is " improving " and he will run it back next year.

Broeker answers to Shaka and Kimo is more interested in making Facebook videos to seem like the cool dean in the Simpsons episode where Homer went back to college.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: The Equalizer on January 24, 2026, 10:33:37 AM
Quote from: #UnleashJosh on January 17, 2026, 06:31:43 PMGuys.... yall don't need to keep explaining that Shaka errored with not adding portal players in the off season.


Failure to recruit the portal is not his "error"--his error lies in his entire operating philosophy . . .

- not using the portal
- prioritizing your current roster over always looking to improve your team
- not dealing with agents
- ignoring potential recruits if they desire to maximize earnings
- believing that low-major recruits reliably can be "coached up" to Big East level
- prioritizing culture and relationships over performance
- prioritizing retention over improvement
- prioritizing practice over games

Let's face it, with 2500+ players in the portal every year, there are plenty of underdeveloped, unproven transfers that are functionally identical to the underdeveloped, unproven HS players he's been recruiting. 

If the only thing Shaka changes is taking those players from the portal instead of HS, results won't be any better. 

The answer is not simply "recruit the portal."  It's recruit (and land) Big East ready talent wherever he can find it.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: PointWarrior on January 24, 2026, 10:35:49 AM
great to be respected AND winning...


Quote from: tower912 on January 24, 2026, 09:48:15 AMFrom the outside, Shaka was just mentioned in an Athletic article as one of the 40 most respected people across all sports.

Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: tower912 on January 24, 2026, 10:37:09 AM
It would be nice.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: willie warrior on January 24, 2026, 10:42:38 AM
Quote from: wadesworld on January 17, 2026, 04:13:05 PMNobody is saying it's something to be proud of. Just never knew this was a thing. If somebody asked me the last time, say, Michigan lost 20 games in a season I'd have no idea if it was 5 years ago, 35 years ago, or never. It's not something I would ever really think about.
Maybe it is time to start and be embarrassed about. It is unacceptable at MU, or should be. B ur hey...Shaka deserves a pass.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: Scoop Snoop on January 24, 2026, 10:53:43 AM
Quote from: tower912 on January 24, 2026, 09:48:15 AMFrom the outside, Shaka was just mentioned in an Athletic article as one of the 40 most respected people across all sports.


Wrong thread Tower. No positive news allowed here  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: Billy Hoyle on January 24, 2026, 10:54:33 AM
Quote from: The Equalizer on January 24, 2026, 10:33:37 AMFailure to recruit the portal is not his "error"--his error lies in his entire operating philosophy . . .

- not using the portal
- prioritizing your current roster over always looking to improve your team
- not dealing with agents
- ignoring potential recruits if they desire to maximize earnings
- believing that low-major recruits reliably can be "coached up" to Big East level
- prioritizing culture and relationships over performance
- prioritizing retention over improvement
- prioritizing practice over games

The answer is not simply "recruit the portal."  It's recruit (and land) Big East ready talent wherever he can find it.

A guy like Drayton Jones in the middle would be 100x better than what we have now he wasn't demanding massive NIL (Butler doesn't have what we have and Ajayi and Jackson were the big dollar guys for them). But no, Shaka had to protect his RVG brand with Hamilton and Clark.

We don't need to recruit million dollar stars in the Portal, we needed to fill holes.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: tower912 on January 24, 2026, 10:54:51 AM
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on January 24, 2026, 10:53:43 AMWrong thread Tower. No positive news allowed here  ;D  ;D
Nice.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: Mu8891 on January 24, 2026, 10:58:03 AM
Willie - I agree

It's long past time for Shaka to take some responsibility and blame.

How about he once - just once - says that this season is unacceptable.  It's NOT what MU ( and he ) expects. And at least say he will fix it ? He could admit that he's not done well enough and needs to be better ...  But, nope

Instead, after every damn game we get the same lame platitudes and stupid cliches.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: AlienWarrior on January 24, 2026, 10:58:50 AM
Wojo and UT are laughing their ass off
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: Biggie Clausen on January 24, 2026, 11:25:33 AM
Quote from: tower912 on January 24, 2026, 09:48:15 AMFrom the outside, Shaka was just mentioned in an Athletic article as one of the 40 most respected people across all sports.


The article on Shaka's leadership in The Athletic was published on November 13, 2025.  I suspect that list was put together long before this season became a disaster.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: Billy Hoyle on January 24, 2026, 11:27:41 AM
Quote from: Biggie Clausen on January 24, 2026, 11:25:33 AMThe article on Shaka's leadership in The Athletic was published on November 13, 2025.  I suspect that list was put together long before this season became a disaster.

How much of that respect is coaches appreciating that he is sticking to the RGV brand and therefore providing less competition on the court and in recruiting?
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: BM1090 on January 24, 2026, 11:38:17 AM
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on January 24, 2026, 09:26:35 AMAt the beginning of this horrendous season, some of Shaka's defenders insisted that this was just "one bad season". Eventually, one of those scoopers later conceded that it was a "catastrophe". It took quite a while for the narrative to disappear from scoop that Shaka's stunning success in his first 3 1/2 seasons somehow made this "one bad season" acceptable.

This "one bad season" is the culmination of FOUR years of RGV and recruiting from only HS. Shaka has to be held fully accountable. This is his RGV team. 

Agree that he's fully accountable. I just have faith he'll adjust and think it would be shortsighted to fire him
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: Scoop Snoop on January 24, 2026, 12:07:40 PM
Quote from: BM1090 on January 24, 2026, 11:38:17 AMAgree that he's fully accountable. I just have faith he'll adjust and think it would be shortsighted to fire him

I deboarded from the Shaka train about a month ago. The faith I once had in Shaka is on hold. I see no indication that he will fully "adjust" but I think will instead go to RGV 2.0. and add some transfers. My guess is that his no agent and no pay above current players' level policies would remain. The business of college basketball has its own pricing rules, but I think he will cling to his own despite the consequences.

I can even see Marquette being a middle-of-the-pack team next season, but that would likely be our destiny going forward into the following seasons. Sixth place (or 5th or 7th) and maybe an occasional last four in to get us to Dayton under RGV doesn't appeal to me.

Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: #UnleashJosh on January 24, 2026, 02:16:26 PM
Quote from: The Equalizer on January 24, 2026, 10:33:37 AMFailure to recruit the portal is not his "error"--his error lies in his entire operating philosophy . . .

- not using the portal
- prioritizing your current roster over always looking to improve your team
- not dealing with agents
- ignoring potential recruits if they desire to maximize earnings
- believing that low-major recruits reliably can be "coached up" to Big East level
- prioritizing culture and relationships over performance
- prioritizing retention over improvement
- prioritizing practice over games

Let's face it, with 2500+ players in the portal every year, there are plenty of underdeveloped, unproven transfers that are functionally identical to the underdeveloped, unproven HS players he's been recruiting. 

If the only thing Shaka changes is taking those players from the portal instead of HS, results won't be any better. 

The answer is not simply "recruit the portal."  It's recruit (and land) Big East ready talent wherever he can find it.

Why did you remove the part where I said "were all very well aware"

We already know this. Thanks.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: Scoop Snoop on January 24, 2026, 02:21:01 PM
Quote from: Mu8891 on January 24, 2026, 10:58:03 AMWillie - I agree

It's long past time for Shaka to take some responsibility and blame.

How about he once - just once - says that this season is unacceptable.  It's NOT what MU ( and he ) expects. And at least say he will fix it ? He could admit that he's not done well enough and needs to be better ...  But, nope

Instead, after every damn game we get the same lame platitudes and stupid cliches.

This is precisely why I am skeptical that Shaka will make the extensive changes needed. For those who say that he will fix it, make the changes, etc.....exactly what do you base your statements on? Where's the evidence?

I do not take cupcake wins very seriously. Deduct those from our total and we have a one-point win over Xavier, and a one-point win over Providence, both on our home court. Late January, and that's IT!

So yeah....I think Shaka should "just once" say "this season is unacceptable."
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: WhiteTrash on January 24, 2026, 02:35:09 PM
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on January 24, 2026, 02:21:01 PMThis is precisely why I am skeptical that Shaka will make the extensive changes needed. For those who say that he will fix it, make the changes, etc.....exactly what do you base your statements on? Where's the evidence?
There is nothing but circumstantial evidence of what Shaka will do. He's smart, ultra competitive and has a long resume of very good results.

I would be more surprised if he didn't make changes than if he just stepped down.

I wouldn't read too much into public statements during the season. To me, he is acting like the ultimate professional I believe he is.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on January 24, 2026, 02:38:38 PM
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on January 24, 2026, 09:26:35 AMAt the beginning of this horrendous season, some of Shaka's defenders insisted that this was just "one bad season". Eventually, one of those scoopers later conceded that it was a "catastrophe". It took quite a while for the narrative to disappear from scoop that Shaka's stunning success in his first 3 1/2 seasons somehow made this "one bad season" acceptable.

This "one bad season" is the culmination of FOUR years of RGV and recruiting from only HS. Shaka has to be held fully accountable. This is his RGV team. 

Saying it was one bad or horrendous season is not the same as saying it is acceptable. 

I'm not sure a single person ever said it was acceptable but some of the hyperbolic nonsense (We're DePaul Now) was and is over-the-top.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on January 24, 2026, 02:41:13 PM
Quote from: Mu8891 on January 24, 2026, 10:58:03 AMWillie - I agree

It's long past time for Shaka to take some responsibility and blame.

How about he once - just once - says that this season is unacceptable.  It's NOT what MU ( and he ) expects. And at least say he will fix it ? He could admit that he's not done well enough and needs to be better ...  But, nope

Instead, after every damn game we get the same lame platitudes and stupid cliches.

This again?  ::)
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: Scoop Snoop on January 24, 2026, 02:46:05 PM
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on January 24, 2026, 02:38:38 PMSaying it was one bad or horrendous season is not the same as saying it is acceptable. 


I consider the "one bad or horrendous season" to be the culmination of four years of roster building. There was plenty of time to see this coming and to take corrective action.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: #UnleashJosh on January 24, 2026, 02:46:48 PM
Quote from: AlienWarrior on January 24, 2026, 10:58:50 AMWojo and UT are laughing their ass off

Wojo had disappointing season after disappointing season. What are you talking about?
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: Scoop Snoop on January 24, 2026, 02:54:05 PM
White Trash-The long resume' looks very short right now. I think that different M.O.s for his great successes and this season need to be viewed in context. This is why I see no reason to future predict improvement based upon past success.

Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: K1 Lover on January 24, 2026, 03:00:30 PM
Quote from: Mu8891 on January 24, 2026, 10:58:03 AMInstead, after every damn game we get the same lame platitudes and stupid cliches.

I'm not as strongly opinionated on the postgame pressers as others, but just as an observation... If I had a dollar for every time Shaka used the word aggressiveness, I could probably retire early.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: onepost on January 24, 2026, 03:09:37 PM
Ideally Tre, Sean, and one of Caedin/Josh leave and we have 4 scholarships to add meaningful talent to a promising young core.

We're basically in a wait and see until April.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: wadesworld on January 24, 2026, 03:10:37 PM
Quote from: #UnleashJosh on January 24, 2026, 02:46:48 PMWojo had disappointing season after disappointing season. What are you talking about?

And Texas is on their third coach since Shaka left?

Also, I get needing to use the portal in today's day and age. Shaka needs to correct high school recruiting misses (and there have been plenty) by utilizing the portal to get proven college production. But maybe we use a better example than Butler? MU under Shaka have been significantly better than Butler, and Butler has used the portal to...grow into a bubble NIT team? If that's what we were, people would still (rightfully) be complaining about this season.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on January 24, 2026, 03:40:25 PM
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on January 24, 2026, 02:46:05 PMI consider the "one bad or horrendous season" to be the culmination of four years of roster building. There was plenty of time to see this coming and to take corrective action.


This is revisionist history.  Most experts, pre-season metrics, the coaches poll, etc. saw Marquette as a bubble team, give or take, going into the season. 

No one saw this kind of season coming.  Even any of the worst-case prognostications were nowhere near what has unfolded. 

Shaka and staff likely got overconfident based on the success of the previous 4 seasons (sorry, I'm not playing the dumb "3-and-a-half seasons" crap"), and that's understandable to a certain extent. 

Now reality has slapped Shaka in the face a bit and we'll see how he responds. 
 
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: The Equalizer on January 24, 2026, 03:55:50 PM
Quote from: #UnleashJosh on January 24, 2026, 02:16:26 PMWhy did you remove the part where I said "were all very well aware"

We already know this. Thanks.

First, I wasn't responding to that portion of the quote. 

Second, allow me to repeat the conclusion for you, since you don't seem to be "very well aware" of the problem: With 2500+ players in the portal every year, there are plenty of underdeveloped, unproven transfers that are functionally identical to the underdeveloped, unproven HS players he's been recruiting.

Where Shaka gets players is irrelevant. The Portal (and lack of using it) is not the problem. If Shaka doesn't change his entire operating philosophy, we can land an entire roster out of the portal that is just as bad as this year's team.

Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: tower912 on January 24, 2026, 04:01:14 PM
To land a roster out of the portal would require a change to his entire operating philosophy.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: willie warrior on January 24, 2026, 04:09:18 PM
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on January 24, 2026, 12:07:40 PMI deboarded from the Shaka train about a month ago. The faith I once had in Shaka is on hold. I see no indication that he will fully "adjust" but I think will instead go to RGV 2.0. and add some transfers. My guess is that his no agent and no pay above current players' level policies would remain. The business of college basketball has its own pricing rules, but I think he will cling to his own despite the consequences.

I can even see Marquette being a middle-of-the-pack team next season, but that would likely be our destiny going forward into the following seasons. Sixth place (or 5th or 7th) and maybe an occasional last four in to get us to Dayton under RGV doesn't appeal to me.


Low major team unless some talent infusion. Parham, Owens, James are keepers. Clark and Pearson likely have some potential and other frosh along with redshirts  also. But some studs need to arrive quickly. Does Shaka have the acumen to bring some in?
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: WhiteTrash on January 24, 2026, 04:45:48 PM
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on January 24, 2026, 02:54:05 PMWhite Trash-The long resume' looks very short right now. I think that different M.O.s for his great successes and this season need to be viewed in context. This is why I see no reason to future predict improvement based upon past success.


That's fair. My opinion is he will change course, but I wouldn't bet the farm on it. Totally reasonable to think he will stay the course and I will be disappointed. I just hope he returns next year so we can see if his strategy works.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: 79Warrior on January 24, 2026, 08:29:23 PM
Quote from: tower912 on January 24, 2026, 04:01:14 PMTo land a roster out of the portal would require a change to his entire operating philosophy.

And a budget number that folks on this board need to start ponying up for it to happen.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: panda on January 24, 2026, 09:54:38 PM
Quote from: 79Warrior on January 24, 2026, 08:29:23 PMAnd a budget number that folks on this board need to start ponying up for it to happen.

How does every other school in the country afford transfers mister?
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: WhiteTrash on January 25, 2026, 08:52:36 AM

Quote from: panda on January 24, 2026, 09:54:38 PMHow does every other school in the country afford transfers mister?

Scoop 1: MU is the poorest program in the Big East. Transfers are not even an option

Scoop 2: MU's NIL is so rich, no player would even think of leaving for more playing time. [/quote]
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: Billy Hoyle on January 25, 2026, 09:25:44 AM
Quote from: panda on January 24, 2026, 09:54:38 PMHow does every other school in the country afford transfers mister?

If we can't afford to keep up with Seton Hall Xavier, and Butler whrn it comes to Portal recruiting then maybe the A10 is a better fot for us... If we can keep up with Dayton and SLU's portal recruiting. Hello Horizon League?
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: 79Warrior on January 25, 2026, 09:26:06 AM
Quote from: panda on January 24, 2026, 09:54:38 PMHow does every other school in the country afford transfers mister?

I was referring to buying a new roster if you read Towers post. Not a couple of players.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: Scoop Snoop on January 25, 2026, 09:28:26 AM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on January 25, 2026, 09:25:44 AMIf we can't afford to keep up with Seton Hall Xavier, and Butler whrn it comes to Portal recruiting then maybe the A10 is a better fot for us... If we can keep up with Dayton and SLU's portal recruiting. Hello Horizon League?

I say just go straight to the Horizon. Otherwise, Fieldhouse will be on scoop all day every day with his very long, very colorful posts.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: Jay Bee on January 25, 2026, 09:48:37 AM
Quote from: WhiteTrash on January 17, 2026, 06:13:48 PMTrue that nobody can reference the last time X school lost 20 games, just like nobody can reference the last time X school ranked 337th in FG%, but it doesn't mean it's not important.

(Hint: a Milwaukee based school is ranked 337th in FG%)

FG% is not relevant.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: panda on January 25, 2026, 09:51:58 AM
Quote from: 79Warrior on January 25, 2026, 09:26:06 AMI was referring to buying a new roster if you read Towers post. Not a couple of players.

And? The money is there. We've paid big time players more than competitive salaries in the last 4 years.

Other programs in our conference are doing the same thing. Saying we can't afford players who fit into our roster scheme is flat out wrong.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: Billy Hoyle on January 25, 2026, 01:33:49 PM
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on January 25, 2026, 09:28:26 AMI say just go straight to the Horizon. Otherwise, Fieldhouse will be on scoop all day every day with his very long, very colorful posts.

And move our games to the Al if we're going to think small time and cry poverty.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: wadesworld on January 25, 2026, 02:44:28 PM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on January 25, 2026, 09:25:44 AMIf we can't afford to keep up with Seton Hall Xavier, and Butler whrn it comes to Portal recruiting then maybe the A10 is a better fot for us... If we can keep up with Dayton and SLU's portal recruiting. Hello Horizon League?

So hit the portal just to be equally as bad as we are?
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: panda on January 25, 2026, 03:10:19 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on January 25, 2026, 02:44:28 PMSo hit the portal just to be equally as bad as we are?

No - you hit the portal to fill in the gaps of recruiting misses. I would love Ajayi on this team. A competent big and guard would almost certainly avoid the self inflicted catastrophe that is this season. 
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: brewcity77 on January 25, 2026, 04:15:55 PM
Quote from: 79Warrior on January 24, 2026, 08:29:23 PMAnd a budget number that folks on this board need to start ponying up for it to happen.

If folks on this board needed to start ponying up, BTD would've been sending out weekly donation request emails since the inception. Instead, it's less than 1 per year.

They don't care about small or medium dollar donors because they don't need them. BTD & Marquette strictly rely on whale donors for this stuff.

They'll take your money if you offer it, but if they really needed it, they'd be asking.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on January 25, 2026, 09:22:45 PM
Hard to screw up a team with as much support as Shaka gets. Ugh
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: muwarrior69 on January 26, 2026, 07:22:38 AM
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 25, 2026, 04:15:55 PMIf folks on this board needed to start ponying up, BTD would've been sending out weekly donation request emails since the inception. Instead, it's less than 1 per year.

They don't care about small or medium dollar donors because they don't need them. BTD & Marquette strictly rely on whale donors for this stuff.

They'll take your money if you offer it, but if they really needed it, they'd be asking.
So the schools with the most/biggest whales will be the only schools to compete for a Natty. How does BTD's whale pod compare to other schools in numbers and size? I guess that question will be answered in the off season when we go after players in the portal/elsewhere and the quality of players in the '27 class.

The other concern I have is will Shaka's current/ future roster regress as has been the trend of late.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: muwarrior69 on January 26, 2026, 08:41:08 AM
Quote from: panda on January 25, 2026, 09:51:58 AMAnd? The money is there. We've paid big time players more than competitive salaries in the last 4 years.

Other programs in our conference are doing the same thing. Saying we can't afford players who fit into our roster scheme is flat out wrong.
I guess will find out in the off season and will they want to spend it on a Shaka recruit who plays better in practice than on the court.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: Scoop Snoop on January 26, 2026, 09:31:47 AM
Quote from: muwarrior69 on January 26, 2026, 07:22:38 AMSo the schools with the most/biggest whales will be the only schools to compete for a Natty.

You got it! If you cannot watch Marquette or any other whaleless team knowing that they will probably never get a natty, you are going to be disappointed. Obsessing over this will not change anything. It is what it is.

Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: muwarrior69 on January 26, 2026, 09:48:15 AM
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on January 26, 2026, 09:31:47 AMYou got it! If you cannot watch Marquette or any other whaleless team knowing that they will probably never get a natty, you are going to be disappointed. Obsessing over this will not change anything. It is what it is.


...and many here wanted this! Not me. However according to Brew we're not  whaleless and I bet he wants us to compete for a Natty not just a S16 or E8 as most here on Scoop do too. I am just asking do we have the whales at the levels necessary to compete. We'll see.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: Scoop Snoop on January 26, 2026, 09:58:11 AM
Quote from: muwarrior69 on January 26, 2026, 09:48:15 AM...and many here wanted this! Not me. However according to Brew we're not  whaleless and I bet he wants us to compete for a Natty not just a S16 or E8 as most here on Scoop do too. I am just asking do we have the whales at the levels necessary to compete. We'll see.

Many here wanted what?

And we don't have whales on scoop. Manatees are the official big fat sea creatures on scoop.

Exactly where is Marquette going to find the whales you want? How are we going to compete with schools like Duke? I would like to hear some answers rather than hearing your questions over and over.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: #UnleashJosh on January 26, 2026, 10:09:15 AM
I love that this argument continues to boil down to "well see what happens in the off season" lol
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: muwarrior69 on January 26, 2026, 10:26:00 AM
Quote from: #UnleashJosh on January 26, 2026, 10:09:15 AMI love that this argument continues to boil down to "well see what happens in the off season" lol
It's not an argument it's a fact. The program cannot continue on its current path.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: muwarrior69 on January 26, 2026, 10:32:22 AM
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on January 26, 2026, 09:58:11 AMMany here wanted what?

And we don't have whales on scoop. Manatees are the official big fat sea creatures on scoop.

Exactly where is Marquette going to find the whales you want? How are we going to compete with schools like Duke? I would like to hear some answers rather than hearing your questions over and over.
If I had the answers I wouldn't be asking would I.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: Scoop Snoop on January 26, 2026, 10:36:53 AM
Quote from: muwarrior69 on January 26, 2026, 10:32:22 AMIf I had the answers I wouldn't be asking would I.

Another question. Kudos!
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: Billy Hoyle on January 26, 2026, 10:37:35 AM
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on January 26, 2026, 09:58:11 AMMany here wanted what?

And we don't have whales on scoop. Manatees are the official big fat sea creatures on scoop.

Exactly where is Marquette going to find the whales you want? How are we going to compete with schools like Duke? I would like to hear some answers rather than hearing your questions over and over.

we have big donors, it's how we could buy out Wojo.

It's not that we have to compete with Duke, but how about Nova and Creighton?
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: muwarrior69 on January 26, 2026, 10:43:21 AM
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on January 26, 2026, 10:36:53 AMAnother question. Kudos!
Thanks!
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: Scoop Snoop on January 26, 2026, 10:46:00 AM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on January 26, 2026, 10:37:35 AMwe have big donors, it's how we could buy out Wojo.

It's not that we have to compete with Duke, but how about Nova and Creighton?

OK, now I'm in. No reason that Marquette cannot compete with most high majors, especially within the BE. It is the obsession with measuring us against the wealthiest teams and a natty that annoys me.

I think the most important step would be for Shaka to drop his self-imposed rules on working with agents and his pay structure. 
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: muwarrior69 on January 26, 2026, 10:55:56 AM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on January 26, 2026, 10:37:35 AMwe have big donors, it's how we could buy out Wojo.

It's not that we have to compete with Duke, but how about Nova and Creighton?
Sure, we bought out Wojo to get Shaka, but that was before NIL (or it just started I don't recall) and now revenue sharing. It would be nice to compete against Duke and we should be competing with UCONN. Like you say if we have the donors let get those top 75 recruits and transfers or one of those international "pros" who can actually play ball.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: muwarrior69 on January 26, 2026, 11:01:17 AM
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on January 26, 2026, 10:46:00 AMOK, now I'm in. No reason that Marquette cannot compete with most high majors, especially within the BE. It is the obsession with measuring us against the wealthiest teams and a natty that annoys me.

I think the most important step would be for Shaka to drop his self-imposed rules on working with agents and his pay structure. 
Again that step will be answered in the off season and yes, we should be competing with UCONN.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: brewcity77 on January 26, 2026, 11:06:30 AM
Quote from: muwarrior69 on January 26, 2026, 10:55:56 AMSure, we bought out Wojo to get Shaka, but that was before NIL (or it just started I don't recall) and now revenue sharing. It would be nice to compete against Duke and we should be competing with UCONN. Like you say if we have the donors let get those top 75 recruits and transfers or one of those international "pros".

We have the donors to compete. No, we aren't going to have Kentucky's $22M payroll, but what has that gotten them? We can compete at the top of this league and with most high majors because they are going to prioritize football and you don't have as many scholarships to fill in basketball. Will we need to be smarter with our money? Sure. But that's always been the case.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: muwarrior69 on January 26, 2026, 11:19:09 AM
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 26, 2026, 11:06:30 AMWe have the donors to compete. No, we aren't going to have Kentucky's $22M payroll, but what has that gotten them? We can compete at the top of this league and with most high majors because they are going to prioritize football and you don't have as many scholarships to fill in basketball. Will we need to be smarter with our money? Sure. But that's always been the case.
Does UCONN prioritize football over basketball? That is who we have to compete with and they are winning Nattys more than any other school since 2000.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: Billy Hoyle on January 26, 2026, 11:24:40 AM
Quote from: muwarrior69 on January 26, 2026, 10:55:56 AMSure, we bought out Wojo to get Shaka, but that was before NIL (or it just started I don't recall) and now revenue sharing. It would be nice to compete against Duke and we should be competing with UCONN. Like you say if we have the donors let get those top 75 recruits and transfers or one of those international "pros" who can actually play ball.

Here is the reality for most P4 programs with football (this is an interview with BC's AD):

Boston College AD Blake James projects a distribution cap of $21.3M for the upcoming year with 75% allocated to football, 15% to men's basketball, and 5% to women's basketball. While the internal revenue share is maxed, James admitted the program trails top peers like Indiana in "third-party NIL" deals, emphasizing the need to grow that external bucket via partners like Van Wagner.

That's $3.19 million BC basketball has to distribute in rev share. MU definitely has more than $3.19 million to distribute to hoops. If our number is around $6 million total (I think I'm being conservative with that number), and we give 75% to MBB, then that's $4.5 million. Very few P4 schools are giving MBB more than 15%.

But like BC, we need third party NIL to step up, and that's where the donors come in. But, there's no way we shouldn't be able to afford a Drayton Jones or Michael Ajayi like Butler could this past off-season (along with their top portal signee, who is injured for the year). 
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: brewcity77 on January 26, 2026, 11:59:23 AM
Quote from: muwarrior69 on January 26, 2026, 11:19:09 AMDoes UCONN prioritize football over basketball? That is who we have to compete with and they are winning Nattys more than any other school since 2000.

I would urge you to read the post you quoted to the end. The answer is literally right there.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: #UnleashJosh on January 26, 2026, 12:23:50 PM
Quote from: muwarrior69 on January 26, 2026, 10:26:00 AMIt's not an argument it's a fact. The program cannot continue on its current path.

Yes, i think we're all aware of that. Which continues to boil down to "well see what happens in the off season"   ;D
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: #UnleashJosh on January 26, 2026, 12:25:30 PM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on January 26, 2026, 10:37:35 AMwe have big donors, it's how we could buy out Wojo.

It's not that we have to compete with Duke, but how about Nova and Creighton?

No, we had big donors for a single solitary one time payment. That doesn't mean those people are willing to put down big bucks every season.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: #UnleashJosh on January 26, 2026, 12:27:37 PM
Quote from: muwarrior69 on January 26, 2026, 11:19:09 AMDoes UCONN prioritize football over basketball? That is who we have to compete with and they are winning Nattys more than any other school since 2000.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on January 26, 2026, 11:19:09 AMDoes UCONN prioritize football over basketball? That is who we have to compete with and they are winning Nattys more than any other school since 2000.


The question is really whose winning nattys since the NIL takeover. Pretty much everything prior to that can be thrown out.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: Small Orange Soda on January 26, 2026, 12:32:24 PM
Quote from: muwarrior69 on January 26, 2026, 11:01:17 AMAgain that step will be answered in the off season and yes, we should be competing with UCONN.

You've done this in like a dozen threads.

muwarrior: Do we have money to compete?

several others: Yes.

muwarrior: Hmm, I guess nobody knows.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: Pakuni on January 26, 2026, 12:43:40 PM
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 26, 2026, 11:06:30 AMWe have the donors to compete. No, we aren't going to have Kentucky's $22M payroll, but what has that gotten them? We can compete at the top of this league and with most high majors because they are going to prioritize football and you don't have as many scholarships to fill in basketball. Will we need to be smarter with our money? Sure. But that's always been the case.

Yes, exactly this. People pointing to all the money schools like Texas and Michigan State are getting and saying it's proof that Marquette can't compete always ignore that most of that money goes to football. And what's left also has to be shared with other major sports (i.e. baseball at every SEC school, hockey at several Big 10 programs, etc.).
MU won't compete with the bluebloods, but the financial resources exist to maintain a consistently competitive program.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: Scoop Snoop on January 26, 2026, 12:46:58 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on January 26, 2026, 12:43:40 PMMU won't compete with the bluebloods, but the financial resources exist to maintain a consistently competitive program.

This.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: Viper on January 26, 2026, 01:13:13 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on January 26, 2026, 12:43:40 PMYes, exactly this. People pointing to all the money schools like Texas and Michigan State are getting and saying it's proof that Marquette can't compete always ignore that most of that money goes to football. And what's left also has to be shared with other major sports (i.e. baseball at every SEC school, hockey at several Big 10 programs, etc.).
MU won't compete with the bluebloods, but the financial resources exist to maintain a consistently competitive program.
...and every now & then, lightning strikes, another F4 is attained...and it will.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: GoldenWarrior11 on January 26, 2026, 01:25:53 PM
Can we compete with successful athletic departments that can spell their own players' names right?  Asking for a friend. 
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: rocky_warrior on January 26, 2026, 01:29:43 PM
Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on January 26, 2026, 01:25:53 PMCan we compete with successful athletic departments that can spell their own players' names right?  Asking for a friend. 

What's the spelling gaffe I've missed?
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: muwarrior69 on January 26, 2026, 02:18:13 PM
Quote from: #UnleashJosh on January 26, 2026, 12:27:37 PMThe question is really whose winning nattys since the NIL takeover. Pretty much everything prior to that can be thrown out.
Well, UCONN is in the hunt and at least sniffing at a championship in year one of revenue sharing.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: MU82 on January 26, 2026, 02:37:40 PM
Quote from: muwarrior69 on January 26, 2026, 02:18:13 PMWell, UCONN is in the hunt and at least sniffing at a championship in year one of revenue sharing.

UConn is a basketball blueblood.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: GoldenWarrior11 on January 26, 2026, 03:11:44 PM
Quote from: rocky_warrior on January 26, 2026, 01:29:43 PMWhat's the spelling gaffe I've missed?

We spelled Nigel's (Nijel) name wrong on athletics website via graphic per X.  I'm sure someone smarter than me can post the original screenshot (it has since been replaced).
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: brewcity77 on January 26, 2026, 04:25:10 PM
Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on January 26, 2026, 03:11:44 PMWe spelled Nigel's (Nijel) name wrong on athletics website via graphic per X.  I'm sure someone smarter than me can post the original screenshot (it has since been replaced).

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1037928461857194046/1465389192191152138/Screenshot_2026-01-26_at_10.52.40.png?ex=6978ed89&is=69779c09&hm=97d8bb426465ccba57b40be944a3a27068e9a865f48ccb53f47bb349fe71aecf&)
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: muwarrior69 on January 26, 2026, 04:26:14 PM
Quote from: MU82 on January 26, 2026, 02:37:40 PMUConn is a basketball blueblood.
So you're saying we can't compete with UCONN?
Quote from: Pakuni on January 26, 2026, 12:43:40 PMYes, exactly this. People pointing to all the money schools like Texas and Michigan State are getting and saying it's proof that Marquette can't compete always ignore that most of that money goes to football. And what's left also has to be shared with other major sports (i.e. baseball at every SEC school, hockey at several Big 10 programs, etc.).
MU won't compete with the bluebloods, but the financial resources exist to maintain a consistently competitive program.
or like Pakuni?
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on January 26, 2026, 10:46:00 AMOK, now I'm in. No reason that Marquette cannot compete with most high majors especially within the BE. It is the obsession with measuring us against the wealthiest teams and a natty that annoys me.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on January 26, 2026, 10:46:00 AMI think the most important step would be for Shaka to drop his self-imposed rules on working with agents and his pay structure. 
or like Scoop Snoop who does not like measuring us against the likes of UCONN a conference opponent who wins championships.

If the money is there let's compete.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: Scoop Snoop on January 26, 2026, 04:39:14 PM
Quote from: muwarrior69 on January 26, 2026, 04:26:14 PMSo you're saying we can't compete with UCONN? or like Pakuni?or like Scoop Snoop who does not like measuring us against the likes of UCONN a conference opponent who wins championships.

If the money is there let's compete.


What? If I said that, how come I don't know that I said that?  ;D  ;D  ;D 

You are spinning way out of control. Get a grip!

Lenny was very good at telling people what they meant or said after they posted, but he's long gone. Obviously, he knew better than they did and it was his self-appointed duty to explain their posts to them. Are you his replacement? If so, you really need to get much better at it. Lenny was an artist at that. You're a hack.




Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: #UnleashJosh on January 26, 2026, 06:48:42 PM
Quote from: muwarrior69 on January 26, 2026, 02:18:13 PMWell, UCONN is in the hunt and at least sniffing at a championship in year one of revenue sharing.

Yes and does that shock you that an east coast public school wouldn't be able to compete?
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: Jay Bee on January 26, 2026, 07:12:24 PM
We only have a couple of manatee donors, but mostly eels. Whale donors are afraid to donate because the know MU marketing would eff up acknowledgement materials.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: PointWarrior on January 26, 2026, 08:16:34 PM
We also lost a few whale donors after the scrimmage hotdog fiasco...


Quote from: Jay Bee on January 26, 2026, 07:12:24 PMWe only have a couple of manatee donors, but mostly eels. Whale donors are afraid to donate because the know MU marketing would eff up acknowledgement materials.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: muwarrior69 on January 26, 2026, 08:18:15 PM
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on January 26, 2026, 04:39:14 PMWhat? If I said that, how come I don't know that I said that?  ;D  ;D  ;D 

You are spinning way out of control. Get a grip!

Lenny was very good at telling people what they meant or said after they posted, but he's long gone. Obviously, he knew better than they did and it was his self-appointed duty to explain their posts to them. Are you his replacement? If so, you really need to get much better at it. Lenny was an artist at that. You're a hack.





I am too old to be a hack.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: muwarrior69 on January 26, 2026, 08:20:30 PM
Quote from: #UnleashJosh on January 26, 2026, 06:48:42 PMYes and does that shock you that an east coast public school wouldn't be able to compete?
I live in Jersey. Rutgers comes to mind.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: Scoop Snoop on January 26, 2026, 09:23:33 PM
Quote from: muwarrior69 on January 26, 2026, 08:20:30 PMI live in Jersey. Rutgers comes to mind.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on January 26, 2026, 08:18:15 PMI am too old to be a hack.

 ;D
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: MU82 on January 26, 2026, 10:53:33 PM
Quote from: muwarrior69 on January 26, 2026, 04:26:14 PMSo you're saying we can't compete with UCONN?

Nope. Never said that.
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: Jables1604 on January 27, 2026, 06:53:53 AM
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 26, 2026, 07:12:24 PMWe only have a couple of manatee donors, but mostly eels. Whale donors are afraid to donate because the know MU marketing would eff up acknowledgement materials.
They know*
Title: Re: Shaka's Credibility
Post by: Scoop Snoop on January 27, 2026, 08:35:40 AM
Quote from: MU82 on January 26, 2026, 10:53:33 PMNope. Never said that.

I think he was trying to "do a Lenny" on you.  ;D
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