I understand how angry MU fans are right now. Include me in that contingent. As I've stated many times we need an immediate hard pivot and a slew of bona fide ballers that can change this disaster immediately.
All that said, I believe the rest of the year is important, and getting wins/experience is important. And I'm not gonna stop supporting or watching our guys because we're a terrible team. I have little confidence we'll get to even 4-16 in the mediocre BEast, but we will see whether or not we have players grow and could be pieces in the future.
I am not angry, just totally surprised by how our coaching staff over estimated the abilities of their recruits. It makes you wonder if Pearson, Miletic, Egbuono, Nash and Johnston are high major D1 players. It makes you wonder in this new world of college sports if these guys were acquired at a discount. For me the season can't end soon enough so we can see in which direction the program will take because right now very little is working.
Muggsy, I'm with you. I'm in no ways happy with the current state of the program, but I'll be damned if I'm going to turn on the kids. I'll be there supporting them till the end because they are my team. Maybe this is a product of being a Bears fan, learning to stay loyal when your team just lets you down year over year.
I'm thinking all these people turning on the coach and wanting to jump ship and pout must be packer fans who grew up with only Favre and Rodgers as your QB's... there were many years before them where wins were hard to come by. I guess you truly can't appreciate success without knowing failure.
Sheeeoooot. I got hammered for not turning on the players under Wojo, I get hammered now. Ain't no thang.
I root for the players who wear the MU uniform to succeed. It is more fun when they do, but even when they don't, I enjoy the journey.
Quote from: MU gimp ONE on January 15, 2026, 07:42:37 AMMuggsy, I'm with you. I'm in no ways happy with the current state of the program, but I'll be damned if I'm going to turn on the kids. I'll be there supporting them till the end because they are my team. Maybe this is a product of being a Bears fan, learning to stay loyal when your team just lets you down year over year.
I'm thinking all these people turning on the coach and wanting to jump ship and pout must be packer fans who grew up with only Favre and Rodgers as your QB's... there were many years before them where wins were hard to come by. I guess you truly can't appreciate success without knowing failure.
Between Lombardi and Holmgren it was pretty much a desert for Packers fans.
Regarding Marquette, pretty sure most true MU fans will turn on the TV to see the start of all MU games. When they turn it off is probably a wide spectrum.
Normal people with lives wouldn't waste a second watching the trash MU is putting on the court this year.
Lord, an insult from a dipsh(i)t like Farley is the best dopamine hit. Better than a stop by a bakery, better than a second Celcius. Thanks, man. My day got brighter knowing that somebody like you is annoyed.
Quote from: tower912 on January 15, 2026, 07:48:38 AMI root for the players who wear the MU uniform to succeed. It is more fun when they do, but even when they don't, I enjoy the journey.
I root for them unconditionally, as well. I'm trying, but not enjoying the season.
The team isn't good. It is less fun. But we are looking down at the snow and not up at it. (OK, maybe some yoopers are looking up at it) And, ultimately, every fanbase but one finishes the season disappointed. Ours just came early and lingered like an extended cold snap.
Quote from: tower912 on January 15, 2026, 08:23:17 AMThe team isn't good. It is less fun. But we are looking down at the snow and not up at it. (OK, maybe some yoopers are looking up at it) And, ultimately, every fanbase but one finishes the season disappointed. Ours just came early and lingered like an extended cold snap.
The snow is a distinctive shade of yellow.
Don't eat it.
When we were all younger, dumber, and drank like fish, think of the drinking games we could have had with this team.
Y'all need to stop acting like this is the first bad team you have ever followed and quit taking it personally.
My favorite Lions jerseys were the personalized ones made after the 2008 season. The ones where you put a/your name over a number.
Owen over the number 16.
Quote from: tower912 on January 15, 2026, 08:11:44 AMLord, an insult from a dipsh(i)t like Farley is the best dopamine hit. Better than a stop by a bakery, better than a second Celcius. Thanks, man. My day got brighter knowing that somebody like you is annoyed.
You wonder why he even posts.
Quote from: tower912 on January 15, 2026, 08:31:10 AMY'all need to stop acting like this is the first bad team you have ever followed and quit taking it personally.
Bingo on the bolded. Sorry, but I just couldn't' resist on the snow comment. It was just
too easy.I watch for individual performances, especially Nigel, when knowing in advance the game is almost certainly going to be in the L column. I also did this in the final tourney games near the ends, when Tyler and Oso were playing their last minutes in Marquette uniforms. Last year it was Kam and Stevie. In our massive W over Xavier, at least we took down Pitino Jr. ;D
Quote from: 79Warrior on January 15, 2026, 09:03:53 AMYou wonder why he even posts.
Yup. He said he was done following MU hoops after the 2022 NCAAT loss to UNC.
He lied.
I'm not sure many are claiming there isn't importance left in the season. Need development and promise out of the young guys to retool the roster appropriately.
Not fun to watch, but I still try to tune in to each game. It's easier to watch casually assuming every game will be a loss than sitting on the edge of my seat . At least I'll remember the time MU sucked, but Nigel looked like a budding young star. Then when he's hopefully atop the Big East a few years into the future it will feel more worth it.
I think there's a stark difference between giving up on supporting the team, and acknowledging that this team isn't very good.
One of the suckier things about getting old is reading a post like this and thinking back at just how much time you have spent watching bad teams play sports. My frustration isn't about a bad year. It is about the failure to address a problem that was there last year, magnified by just how far things fell this year. I will still watch because there are interesting new players, but worry that as much as we talk about plugging holes with the portal there has been little discussion about others plugging their holes with the few bright spots we have this year.
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 14, 2026, 09:58:09 PMI understand how angry MU fans are right now. Include me in that contingent. As I've stated many times we need an immediate hard pivot and a slew of bona fide ballers that can change this disaster immediately.
All that said, I believe the rest of the year is important, and getting wins/experience is important. And I'm not gonna stop supporting or watching our guys because we're a terrible team. I have little confidence we'll get to even 4-16 in the mediocre BEast, but we will see whether or not we have players grow and could be pieces in the future.
What about this do you think the "majority of Scoopers" disagrees with?
Quote from: tower912 on January 15, 2026, 07:48:38 AMSheeeoooot. I got hammered for not turning on the players under Wojo, I get hammered now. Ain't no thang.
I root for the players who wear the MU uniform to succeed. It is more fun when they do, but even when they don't, I enjoy the journey.
Yes. The journey this year is a joyous one. Totally.
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 14, 2026, 09:58:09 PMI understand how angry MU fans are right now. Include me in that contingent. As I've stated many times we need an immediate hard pivot and a slew of bona fide ballers that can change this disaster immediately.
All that said, I believe the rest of the year is important, and getting wins/experience is important. And I'm not gonna stop supporting or watching our guys because we're a terrible team. I have little confidence we'll get to even 4-16 in the mediocre BEast, but we will see whether or not we have players grow and could be pieces in the future.
I actually think the majority of scoopers agree with this.
And those who arn't are probably just at the point where they are numb and have moved onto next year in their head and think their will be necessary turnover.
I'm a browns fan, have seen much worse, experienced much more frustration.
Like everyone else, upset at evaluation of current players during their recruitment and the analysis done at some point that indicated this roster had upside this year. Think several coaches should evaluated.
As to the players. I do not blame them. They are not being coached or developed well. And no methods seem to motivate them to play hard. It is coaching staff's fault.
Lastly, if you are a high school player and no p5 is recruiting you, then Marquette comes along w a scholarship offer and some cash....of course you take it.
I will watch when possible and hope to see some positive developments like NJ getting better.
The one real disappointment I have is with Shaka thinking the 2 centers he has
are good enough to play in The Big East.
The next question is Sheek, who is skinny, handle the physicality next year?
Every team can go through lulls like this, how he handles the next 4 months will tell us what will change for next year.
Needs another big, but needs somebody at the 2 guard or small forward who can score!
Quote from: tower912 on January 15, 2026, 07:48:38 AMSheeeoooot. I got hammered for not turning on the players under Wojo, I get hammered now. Ain't no thang.
I root for the players who wear the MU uniform to succeed. It is more fun when they do, but even when they don't, I enjoy the journey.
True my friend
Quote from: willie warrior on January 15, 2026, 01:31:59 PMYes. The journey this year is a joyous one. Totally.
You never find joy in anything. You should try it.
"And, ultimately, every fanbase but one finishes the season disappointed"
But how many fanbases know their season is over before they start thawing their Thanksgiving turkey?
320. 20 in the NFL. All of MLB. 24 of the NBA. 90 + FBS schools.
Quote from: PointWarrior on January 15, 2026, 02:41:48 PM"And, ultimately, every fanbase but one finishes the season disappointed"
Not here. #mubb fans celebrate 2 seeds with quick, unhappy NCAA tourney endings. It's the non-Warrior Way!
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 15, 2026, 02:46:12 PMNot here. #mubb fans celebrate 2 seeds with quick, unhappy NCAA tourney endings. It's the non-Warrior Way!
Marquette has advanced further than that quick, unhappy NCAA Tournament ending two years ago twice in most Scoopers' lives. You're old enough to play pickleball, so it might be more in your lifetime. But those were very good seasons for Marquette basketball.
Quote from: tower912 on January 15, 2026, 02:40:55 PMYou never find joy in anything. You should try it.
You are wrong. Joy always arises when I read your posts. I found lots of joy in your undying support of Wojo, as I am finding joy in your undying support of Shaka. Spread the joy, I embrace it. I also find joy in your expert psychological analysis. I try to find joy in this season's journey. You should try to be objective. You might get joy from it.
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Quote from: willie warrior on January 15, 2026, 04:30:33 PMYou are wrong. Joy always arises when I read your posts. I found lots of joy in your undying support of Wojo, as I am finding joy in your undying support of Shaka. Spread the joy, I embrace it. I also find joy in your expert psychological analysis. I try to find joy in this season's journey. You should try to be objective. You might get joy from it.
I am here to bring joy.
Quote from: wadesworld on January 15, 2026, 03:03:55 PMMarquette has advanced further than that quick, unhappy NCAA Tournament ending two years ago twice in most Scoopers' lives. You're old enough to play pickleball, so it might be more in your lifetime. But those were very good seasons for Marquette basketball.
Actually he could be my son 😂😂
Quote from: willie warrior on January 15, 2026, 04:30:33 PMYou are wrong. Joy always arises when I read your posts. I found lots of joy in your undying support of Wojo, as I am finding joy in your undying support of Shaka. Spread the joy, I embrace it. I also find joy in your expert psychological analysis. I try to find joy in this season's journey. You should try to be objective. You might get joy from it.
You sound like Vecna, hating yourself and spewing it is harmful. I don't expect you to know who Vecna is and what he represents. Go flip some burgers
Quote from: MU82 on January 15, 2026, 12:14:08 PMWhat about this do you think the "majority of Scoopers" disagrees with?
I've read many posts stating they will no longer watch this team and that it's masochistic to do so. These same people have also intimated time and time again that winning at this point is meaningless. I vehemently disagree. In my view it's more than fair to criticize Shaka,the players, the state of the program, etc. I do so quite frequently. What I object to is quitting as a fan of MU hoops and losing all hope for our future.
Either you are fan of MU hoops, our esteemed history, or you're a fking loser troll (Farley is a good example) as far as I'm concerned. I believe we will bounce back and Shaka will pivot. If he doesn't? He should be immediately shown the door. But regardless of who's out there, or coaching our program, I will always hope for greatness and getting back to the promised land. And I say this completely admitting this is the worst MU team I have seen in my lifetime to this point in our season.
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 15, 2026, 07:59:50 PMI've read many posts stating they will no longer watch this team and that it's masochistic to do so. These same people have also intimated time and time again that winning at this point is meaningless. I vehemently disagree. In my view it's more than fair to criticize Shaka,the players, the state of the program, etc. I do so quite frequently. What I object to is quitting as a fan of MU hoops and losing all hope for our future.
Either you are fan of MU hoops, our esteemed history, or you're a fking loser troll (Farley is a good example) as far as I'm concerned. I believe we will bounce back and Shaka will pivot. If he doesn't? He should be immediately shown the door. But regardless of who's out there, or coaching our program, I will always hope for greatness and getting back to the promised land. And I say this completely admitting this is the worst MU team I have seen in my lifetime to this point in our season.
Couldn't agree more
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 15, 2026, 07:59:50 PMI've read many posts stating they will no longer watch this team and that it's masochistic to do so. These same people have also intimated time and time again that winning at this point is meaningless. I vehemently disagree. In my view it's more than fair to criticize Shaka,the players, the state of the program, etc. I do so quite frequently. What I object to is quitting as a fan of MU hoops and losing all hope for our future.
Either you are fan of MU hoops, our esteemed history, or you're a fking loser troll (Farley is a good example) as far as I'm concerned. I believe we will bounce back and Shaka will pivot. If he doesn't? He should be immediately shown the door. But regardless of who's out there, or coaching our program, I will always hope for greatness and getting back to the promised land. And I say this completely admitting this is the worst MU team I have seen in my lifetime to this point in our season.
the Scoop unifier is we all want MU basketball to dominate. It's a season of embarrassment and everyone handles it their own way. I admit I can hardly watch this team. Rather, I'll take in the game with Homer & TSmith. At least with Smith, he gives a solid assessment, and can relate since he played 3 of his seasons for Dukiet. (Committed to Majerus but honored the commitment when Majerus was 'encouraged' to depart). I sit in my rec room listening to the games. My wife tells me I keep mumbling 'why' 'how' and 'what the helll' a lot. Is what it is, Muggs.
Quote from: Viper on January 15, 2026, 09:15:31 PMthe Scoop unifier is we all want MU basketball to dominate. It's a season of embarrassment and everyone handles it their own way. I admit I can hardly watch this team. Rather, I'll take in the game with Homer & TSmith. At least with Smith, he gives a solid assessment, and can relate since he played 3 of his seasons for Dukiet. (Committed to Majerus but honored the commitment when Majerus was 'encouraged' to depart). I sit in my rec room listening to the games. My wife tells me I keep mumbling 'why' 'how' and 'what the helll' a lot. Is what it is, Muggs.
I get that Viper. No honest person could have expected this dumpster 🔥. But giving up isn't a solution. And I still think that growth and development can happen the remainder of the season. If we don't have major roster overhaul March-Nov it will be totally inexcusable. For now I will hope and believe Shaka can turn things around.
Agree Mugs I have been going to most Marquette games for about 60 years since our Dad started taking us. I have not missed a Marquette home game in many many years until Seton Hall this year. And this will be the first year in many I will not be at the Marquette at DePaul game. But I plan on supporting the team and being at all the remaining home games.
Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on January 15, 2026, 10:43:29 PMAgree Mugs I have been going to most Marquette games for about 60 years since our Dad started taking us. I have not missed a Marquette home game in many many years until Seton Hall this year. And this will be the first year in many I will not be at the Marquette at DePaul game. But I plan on supporting the team and being at all the remaining home games.
Glad to hear thet MM. You're a good fan.
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 15, 2026, 07:59:50 PMI've read many posts stating they will no longer watch this team and that it's masochistic to do so. These same people have also intimated time and time again that winning at this point is meaningless. I vehemently disagree. In my view it's more than fair to criticize Shaka,the players, the state of the program, etc. I do so quite frequently. What I object to is quitting as a fan of MU hoops and losing all hope for our future.
Either you are fan of MU hoops, our esteemed history, or you're a fking loser troll (Farley is a good example) as far as I'm concerned. I believe we will bounce back and Shaka will pivot. If he doesn't? He should be immediately shown the door. But regardless of who's out there, or coaching our program, I will always hope for greatness and getting back to the promised land. And I say this completely admitting this is the worst MU team I have seen in my lifetime to this point in our season.
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 15, 2026, 07:59:50 PMI've read many posts stating they will no longer watch this team and that it's masochistic to do so. These same people have also intimated time and time again that winning at this point is meaningless. I vehemently disagree. In my view it's more than fair to criticize Shaka,the players, the state of the program, etc. I do so quite frequently. What I object to is quitting as a fan of MU hoops and losing all hope for our future.
Either you are fan of MU hoops, our esteemed history, or you're a fking loser troll (Farley is a good example) as far as I'm concerned. I believe we will bounce back and Shaka will pivot. If he doesn't? He should be immediately shown the door. But regardless of who's out there, or coaching our program, I will always hope for greatness and getting back to the promised land. And I say this completely admitting this is the worst MU team I have seen in my lifetime to this point in our season.
The majority of Scoopers agree with this, too.
Don't let loud trolls confuse you.
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 15, 2026, 07:59:50 PMI've read many posts stating they will no longer watch this team and that it's masochistic to do so. These same people have also intimated time and time again that winning at this point is meaningless. I vehemently disagree. In my view it's more than fair to criticize Shaka,the players, the state of the program, etc. I do so quite frequently. What I object to is quitting as a fan of MU hoops and losing all hope for our future.
Either you are fan of MU hoops, our esteemed history, or you're a fking loser troll (Farley is a good example) as far as I'm concerned. I believe we will bounce back and Shaka will pivot. If he doesn't? He should be immediately shown the door. But regardless of who's out there, or coaching our program, I will always hope for greatness and getting back to the promised land. And I say this completely admitting this is the worst MU team I have seen in my lifetime to this point in our season.
I actually think the majority of people on scoop are on the same page. It took a while because of the initial shock of being so incompetently bad for everyone to get in the silver lining mode. There are only a handful of posters who don't think like you.
Now everyone is looking for the occasional good defensive effort, made layup and open three to go in. It is still frustrating to watch but this team is starting to make it close against the mid to lesser teams in conference. A low bar but it is a bar. If they can pick up a few wins and prevent this from getting recent Georgetown and long standing DePaul bad I think it would be good for the team.
I am personally watching for development and have been since November. I think they have shown some competence the last few games. I think they will win a few more coming up, starting with DePaul. Because of that and that MU uniform they wear, I'll be watching with interest.