What do we know?
Is it conceivable he'll start drilling threes again? Are there any psychological solutions?
Ty.
The less I see of the great kiwi the better at this point. I've moved on.
Quote from: #UnleashMalik on January 11, 2026, 10:12:32 PMThe less I see of the great kiwi the better at this point. I've moved on.
He's still our best interior defender.
Quote from: #UnleashMalik on January 11, 2026, 10:12:32 PMThe less I see of the great kiwi the better at this point. I've moved on.
This is the first I have heard about any injury, but if true....I really think this post is inappropriate in this thread.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on January 11, 2026, 10:38:04 PMThis is the first I have heard about any injury, but if true....I really think this post is inappropriate in this thread.
Ankle injury in Xavier game. Had to go to locker room, ankle taped. Nova game he could barely run, started to limp and basically sat after that, only played 13 minutes.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on January 11, 2026, 10:38:04 PMThis is the first I have heard about any injury, but if true....I really think this post is inappropriate in this thread.
Sprained his ankle vs Xavier and was clearly laboring on it yesterday.
Quote from: #UnleashMalik on January 11, 2026, 10:12:32 PMThe less I see of the great kiwi the better at this point. I've moved on.
Parham & Gold were the best players in Xavier win, and he played with ankle injury for part of the game.
We should hang a banner for his perseverance.
MU's best interior defender by 100 miles. Not having him at full strength for 30+ minutes hurt us badly vs. Nova.
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 11, 2026, 10:02:53 PMWhat do we know?
Is it conceivable he'll start drilling threes again? Are there any psychological solutions?
Ty.
No and no.
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 11, 2026, 10:02:53 PMWhat do we know?
Is it conceivable he'll start drilling threes again? Are there any psychological solutions?
Ty.
what do you mean, 'again'?
Quote from: Viper on January 12, 2026, 07:00:46 AMwhat do you mean, 'again'?
He shot 37% from distance last season.
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 12, 2026, 10:15:35 AMHe shot 37% from distance last season.
Correct, but those who don't know ball probably think that is a bad stat.
Quote from: #UnleashMalik on January 11, 2026, 11:16:13 PMWe should hang a banner for his perseverance.
Should retire his jersey
Quote from: Newsdreams on January 12, 2026, 10:35:34 AMShould retire his jersey
Retiring the entire region seems like a good idea >:(
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 12, 2026, 10:15:35 AMHe shot 37% from distance last season.
What is his current percentage for 25-26 season? Single-Digit?
Quote from: muwarrior97 on January 12, 2026, 11:20:40 AMWhat is his current percentage for 25-26 season? Single-Digit?
He's shooting .238 from 3, which is horrendous. He was doing okayish through the first nine games (.333), but he is at .094 (3/32) the last eight games. That is obviously atrocious.
And yet ...
Gold is still
by far the team's best interior defender. And on offense, he had been doing a better job of driving and cutting to the basket before he got hurt.
Call it an indictment of the strength of our roster if you'd like - that would be valid - but we need to have Ben on the court to win games.
Quote from: muwarrior97 on January 12, 2026, 11:20:40 AMWhat is his current percentage for 25-26 season? Single-Digit?
In Big east play hes shooting 1-23 from 3's. Against the P5 + Big east hes shooting hes 9-49. Had a big jump against Maryland where he went 4-10.
Without looking it up, probably worse then Derrick Wilson.
Edit: Derrick went 9-39 in his senior year. So probably worse than Derrick.
Quote from: #UnleashMalik on January 12, 2026, 11:57:12 AMIn Big east play hes shooting 1-23 from 3's. Against the P5 + Big east hes shooting hes 9-49. Had a big jump against Maryland where he went 4-10.
Without looking it up, probably worse then Derrick Wilson.
Edit: Derrick went 9-39 in his senior year. So probably worse than Derrick.
And yet ... this extremely flawed version of Marquette basketball needs him on the court to win because he is the only interior defender capable of defending the interior.
Quote from: MU82 on January 12, 2026, 12:15:49 PMAnd yet ... this extremely flawed version of Marquette basketball needs him on the court to win because he is the only interior defender capable of defending the interior.
:o
Im very glad that he had a "stellar" game against Xavier to push us to 6-10. We should hang a banner.
Quote from: MU82 on January 12, 2026, 11:52:49 AMAnd yet ...
Gold is still by far the team's best interior defender.
This is undoubtedly true, but does it really make a difference if we finish 2-18 or 4-16 in the Big East? At this point our whole season is the Big East tournament. What happens between now and then doesn't matter a whole bunch. Let Gold sit until he's at least 90% and get the other guys experience and see if you have anything.
Quote from: MU82 on January 12, 2026, 12:15:49 PMAnd yet ... this extremely flawed version of Marquette basketball needs him on the court to win because he is the only interior defender capable of defending the interior.
Give Josh more run - in limited sample he has the best rebound and block numbers on the team - let's see what he does with a larger sample size.
Quote from: CTWarrior on January 12, 2026, 12:51:22 PMThis is undoubtedly true, but does it really make a difference if we finish 2-18 or 4-16 in the Big East? At this point our whole season is the Big East tournament. What happens between now and then doesn't matter a whole bunch. Let Gold sit until he's at least 90% and get the other guys experience and see if you have anything.
I agree with this analysis.
Quote from: #UnleashMalik on January 11, 2026, 11:16:13 PMWe should hang a banner for his perseverance.
Your hate for Gold is interesting, especially when there are actual bad players on this team.
If he could make a damn shot he'd be having a really good year. Hes scoring inside more than ever. Playing defense better than ever. Rebounding better than ever. Just can't buy one from the outside.
Quote from: BM1090 on January 12, 2026, 03:10:23 PMYour hate for Gold is interesting, especially when there are actual bad players on this team.
If he could make a damn shot he'd be having a really good year. Hes scoring inside more than ever. Playing defense better than ever. Rebounding better than ever. Just can't buy one from the outside.
Ben Gold has been in this "system" for 4 years. Him and Ross are supposed to be senior leaders like Kam, Stevie, Tyler, and Oso. Neither of them are.
Ben's a bad player on a 6-11 team. Next man up.
Quote from: #UnleashMalik on January 12, 2026, 03:19:32 PMBen Gold has been in this "system" for 4 years. Him and Ross are supposed to be senior leaders like Kam, Stevie, Tyler, and Oso. Neither of them are.
Ben's a bad player on a 6-11 team. Next man up.
Agree with your first statement.
But he's not a bad player. He's a guy playing well in pretty much every facet of the game except making outside shots. He's a solid player struggling with his shot, amplified by the lack of talent and experience on the rest of the roster.
Quote from: MU82 on January 12, 2026, 11:52:49 AMHe's shooting .238 from 3, which is horrendous. He was doing okayish through the first nine games (.333), but he is at .094 (3/32) the last eight games. That is obviously atrocious.
And yet ...
Gold is still by far the team's best interior defender. And on offense, he had been doing a better job of driving and cutting to the basket before he got hurt.
Call it an indictment of the strength of our roster if you'd like - that would be valid - but we need to have Ben on the court to win games.
Yes he should be on the floor drilling those 3s at a 23% clip. That is the key.
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 12, 2026, 10:15:35 AMHe shot 37% from distance last season.
Now that is growth and victory from his last year, isn't it?
If Ben finds his range we may win more games than people think. I get he's been a disaster shooting, but you just never know.
Quote from: BM1090 on January 12, 2026, 03:40:51 PMAgree with your first statement.
But he's not a bad player. He's a guy playing well in pretty much every facet of the game except making outside shots. He's a solid player struggling with his shot, amplified by the lack of talent and experience on the rest of the roster.
Sure, he is absolutely necessary for this abomination of a team, but he is not "playing well in pretty much every facet of the game." Take a look at any stat line, advanced or not, he's just not good enough.
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 12, 2026, 03:47:49 PMIf Ben finds his range we may win more games than people think. I get he's been a disaster shooting, but you just never know.
Well crap, if caedin learns to do a post move, we might win 6 more games.
Hell while we're at it, let's go get a monstar to sap the talent of uconns player and transport it in a basketball to the AL.
What are we doing here?
Quote from: BM1090 on January 12, 2026, 03:40:51 PMAgree with your first statement.
But he's not a bad player. He's a guy playing well in pretty much every facet of the game except making outside shots. He's a solid player struggling with his shot, amplified by the lack of talent and experience on the rest of the roster.
Ben has regressed in every single stat except usage, shot attempts, and rebounds (1.5 more per game!) From last season.
Its time.
Oh and .9 more pgg ;D
Quote from: Tha Hound on January 12, 2026, 03:53:58 PMSure, he is absolutely necessary for this abomination of a team, but he is not "playing well in pretty much every facet of the game." Take a look at any stat line, advanced or not, he's just not good enough.
craps crazy that a guy averaging 8 points 6.5 rebounds per game on 37% shooting percentage is considered playing well. Weve jumped the shark on this season.
Quote from: #UnleashMalik on January 12, 2026, 03:53:59 PMWell crap, if caedin learns to do a post move, we might win 6 more games.
Hell while we're at it, let's go get a monstar to sap the talent of uconns player and transport it in a basketball to the AL.
What are we doing here?
That's a tough analogy. Ben has made shots in the past, Caedin hasn't. I see no reason why we should just give up despite his severe issues. All I'm saying is it's not impossible that he starts draining them. :)
Ben is a damn good role player. He just never made the leap to star this team unfortunately needed.
Its too bad his shot has disappeared, because it is overshadowing the fact he's been good and improved in pretty much every other area of his game.
Quote from: #UnleashMalik on January 12, 2026, 04:00:17 PMBen has regressed in every single stat except usage, shot attempts, and rebounds (1.5 more per game!) From last season.
Its time.
#FakeNews #Lies
*It's
As compared to last season, with increased usage we've also seen a dramatic decrease in turnovers. His turnover rate of 8.7% puts him at 7 of 70 BEast players (min 40% of team's minutes - we'll call those players 'regulars' the rest of the way). That's down from 13.3% a year ago.
His 3-point shooting has been brutally awful, but I think a lot of that is due to injury. Even a hobbled Ben, though, is a good option for THIS squad. He's shooting 2FGAs more often and doing so well (61.7%, up from last year's 60.0% mark) and a long with that is a hefty rise in FTrate (29.9 vs. last year's 16.7, which was a career high).
Impressively, and importantly, he's defending without fouling. Just 2.2 FC/40 minutes down from 3.4 last season (also was a career mark for him.. in the mid-4's in his first two seasons). That ranks him 10th in the BEast of regulars.
The defensive rebounding has been very good - over 20%. Ranks 8th out of the BEast regulars.
Thankful we have Ben this season.
Now, go clean some bedpans, Nurse Danielle.
Quote from: #UnleashMalik on January 12, 2026, 04:00:17 PMBen has regressed in every single stat except usage, shot attempts, and rebounds (1.5 more per game!) From last season.
Its time.
But his perimiter defense, inside scoring, and post defense are noticeably better. Why are we ignoring that? If he was hitting 3s at his career average he'd have his career best FG% while improving vastly on the defensive end.
It's literally just outside shooting. Everything else is fine. It's frustrating as hell, sure, but I'm not sure why we're focusing only on the one negative.
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 12, 2026, 04:48:02 PM#FakeNews #Lies
*It's
As compared to last season, with increased usage we've also seen a dramatic decrease in turnovers. His turnover rate of 8.7% puts him at 7 of 70 BEast players (min 40% of team's minutes - we'll call those players 'regulars' the rest of the way). That's down from 13.3% a year ago.
His 3-point shooting has been brutally awful, but I think a lot of that is due to injury. Even a hobbled Ben, though, is a good option for THIS squad. He's shooting 2FGAs more often and doing so well (61.7%, up from last year's 60.0% mark) and a long with that is a hefty rise in FTrate (29.9 vs. last year's 16.7, which was a career high).
Impressively, and importantly, he's defending without fouling. Just 2.2 FC/40 minutes down from 3.4 last season (also was a career mark for him.. in the mid-4's in his first two seasons). That ranks him 10th in the BEast of regulars.
The defensive rebounding has been very good - over 20%. Ranks 8th out of the BEast regulars.
Thankful we have Ben this season.
Now, go clean some bedpans, Nurse Danielle.
Agree on Ben. He's not the problem with the team.
Making fun of males being nurses is dumb.
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 12, 2026, 04:48:02 PM#FakeNews #Lies
*It's
As compared to last season, with increased usage we've also seen a dramatic decrease in turnovers. His turnover rate of 8.7% puts him at 7 of 70 BEast players (min 40% of team's minutes - we'll call those players 'regulars' the rest of the way). That's down from 13.3% a year ago.
His 3-point shooting has been brutally awful, but I think a lot of that is due to injury. Even a hobbled Ben, though, is a good option for THIS squad. He's shooting 2FGAs more often and doing so well (61.7%, up from last year's 60.0% mark) and a long with that is a hefty rise in FTrate (29.9 vs. last year's 16.7, which was a career high).
Impressively, and importantly, he's defending without fouling. Just 2.2 FC/40 minutes down from 3.4 last season (also was a career mark for him.. in the mid-4's in his first two seasons). That ranks him 10th in the BEast of regulars.
The defensive rebounding has been very good - over 20%. Ranks 8th out of the BEast regulars.
Thankful we have Ben this season.
Now, go clean some bedpans, Nurse Danielle.
Oh what's up nazi boy.
Quote from: Newsdreams on January 12, 2026, 10:34:12 AMCorrect, but those who don't know ball probably think that is a bad stat.
me bad. Gold goin' to the Association, right 'Dreams?
None of us is Goose; none of us is claiming that Gold is NBA-bound.
Ben's a decent role player who plays sound interior defense, grabs some boards and, when he's hitting his shot, adds a dimension to the offense. I hope he gets healthy soon because this team needs those contributions (and lots of other things).
It sucks that his shot isn't going in at last season's 37% rate. I'm sure he's more frustrated about that than Scoopers are. But to say he's "bad" or that he hasn't improved most facets of his game, it's just sh!tting on a guy for the sake of it.
Quote from: MU82 on January 12, 2026, 05:33:30 PMNone of us is Goose; none of us is claiming that Gold is NBA-bound.
Ben's a decent role player who plays sound interior defense, grabs some boards and, when he's hitting his shot, adds a dimension to the offense. I hope he gets healthy soon because this team needs those contributions (and lots of other things).
It sucks that his shot isn't going in at last season's 37% rate. I'm sure he's more frustrated about that than Scoopers are. But to say he's "bad" or that he hasn't improved most facets of his game, it's just sh!tting on a guy for the sake of it.
I don't dislike Gold. He plays hard. As are most incoming players, he was overhyped, which isn't his fault. 7th man talent on good teams. Unfortunately we need him to be our top 2 or 3 guy.
Respectfully, Viper, who overhyped Gold? I don't remember Shaka or any other coach claiming Ben was gonna be a star or anything.
Aside from Goose, who insisted that Gold would be an NBA-er, I seriously don't recall many folks saying he was gonna be special.
Quote from: MU82 on January 12, 2026, 10:09:09 PMRespectfully, Viper, who overhyped Gold? I don't remember Shaka or any other coach claiming Ben was gonna be a star or anything.
Aside from Goose, who insisted that Gokd would be an NBA-er, I seriously don't recall many folks saying he was gonna be special.
Dodds thought he was going to a major stud on day 1 of frosh year
Quote from: MU82 on January 12, 2026, 10:09:09 PMRespectfully, Viper, who overhyped Gold? I don't remember Shaka or any other coach claiming Ben was gonna be a star or anything.
Aside from Goose, who insisted that Gokd would be an NBA-er, I seriously don't recall many folks saying he was gonna be special.
Oso Ighodaro overhyped him a bit.
I'll never forget him wearing that Benny NIL shirt and saying that Ben would be the real deal. I said to myself well if Oso thinks so who am I to disagree?
RGVed again
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 12, 2026, 10:10:22 PMDodds thought he was going to a major stud on day 1 of frosh year
Well ...
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Quote from: DoctorV on January 12, 2026, 10:14:29 PMOso Ighodaro overhyped him a bit.
I'll never forget him wearing that Benny NIL shirt and saying that Ben would be the real deal. I said to myself well if Oso thinks so who am I to disagree?
RGVed again
So we don't want teammates to support each other?
This team is better with Ben on the court than off. He's improved defensively and rebounding. Is he the star we all wanted him to be? No. Is he better than the current alternatives? Yes. Get him healthy for the tourney and get his shot back and this team could surprise someone.
Quote from: WarriorFan on January 13, 2026, 10:05:22 AMThis team is better with Ben on the court than off. He's improved defensively and rebounding. Is he the star we all wanted him to be? No. Is he better than the current alternatives? Yes. Get him healthy for the tourney and get his shot back and this team could surprise someone.
With a 2 point win over DePaul in the 1st round of the big east tournament?
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 12, 2026, 10:10:22 PMDodds thought he was going to a major stud on day 1 of frosh year
Who did he use in a blender to hype him?
Quote from: Viper on January 12, 2026, 05:33:19 PMme bad. Gold goin' to the Association, right 'Dreams?
I have never said Ben 2 NBA. Now look at facts posted by Jay Bee, just focusing on shooting stats is dumb.
Quote from: MUDPT on January 13, 2026, 05:27:45 AMSo we don't want teammates to support each other?
We don't need no R elationships...
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 12, 2026, 10:10:22 PMDodds thought he was going to a major stud on day 1 of frosh year
That should have been the first warning sign.
What did he call him? Ben Goldvak? Ben Fitzgoldgerald?
I did. I saw/see a 6'11 athletic forward who defends well, shot the 3 streaky well his first 3 seasons, and can put the ball on the floor and finish at the rim with either hand.
However, he never developed the killer instinct he needed on the offensive end. Still too deferential. And he never became as consistent as he needs to be shooting the 3. Alas.
Too many injuries. Not enough night in, night out intensity.
Ben is out tonight with an ankle.
"Pull Sheek's redshirt!"
;)
Zuby going for 30 tonight.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on January 13, 2026, 02:42:32 PM"Pull Sheek's redshirt!"
;)
Zuby going for 30 tonight.
Did Zubes over 17.5, chase over 14.5 and Nigel assists over 3.5 for 6x payout. #PrayersUp
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 13, 2026, 04:19:15 PMDid Zubes over 17.5, chase over 14.5 and Nigel assists over 3.5 for 6x payout. #PrayersUp
I made the exact same 3-leg play but got it in last night with Zuby at 15.5
I like it!
Quote from: BE_GoldenEagle on January 13, 2026, 04:27:39 PMI made the exact same 3-leg play but got it in last night with Zuby at 15.5
I like it!
Let's get this bread! Zuby was at 15.5 but I teased it up to 17.5 for a better payout once I heard the Ben news
Quote from: tower912 on January 13, 2026, 11:50:47 AMI did. I saw/see a 6'11 athletic forward who defends well, shot the 3 streaky well his first 3 seasons, and can put the ball on the floor and finish at the rim with either hand.
However, he never developed the killer instinct he needed on the offensive end. Still too deferential. And he never became as consistent as he needs to be shooting the 3. Alas.
Too many injuries. Not enough night in, night out intensity.
You have been a Ben fan for years, I respect that. I saw Shaka trying to make him a center which he never was. When I saw as an incoming freshman, I saw a skinny wing player with potential. Shaka believes in player development, his line drive 3 ball never was changed, to bad. It's like watching Norman, his shot has been broken from the beginning. Player development, not there. Sure they both improve with age and maturity, but either you have it or who do not, they do not.
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 13, 2026, 04:19:15 PMDid Zubes over 17.5, chase over 14.5 and Nigel assists over 3.5 for 6x payout. #PrayersUp
Good luck getting your life changing $30 to pay for your Pickleball League tonight!
Quote from: wadesworld on January 13, 2026, 05:07:33 PMGood luck getting your life changing $30 to pay for your Pickleball League tonight!
I bet $20 to get $120. Demz a new purr a pb kicks
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 12, 2026, 10:10:22 PMDodds thought he was going to a major stud on day 1 of frosh year
Dodds thought Wojo was a good coach.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on January 13, 2026, 02:42:32 PM"Pull Sheek's redshirt!"
;)
Zuby going for 30 tonight.
worth it...we'll make the Crowne!! Yeah!
Quote from: MU82 on January 12, 2026, 10:09:09 PMRespectfully, Viper, who overhyped Gold? I don't remember Shaka or any other coach claiming Ben was gonna be a star or anything.
Aside from Goose, who insisted that Gold would be an NBA-er, I seriously don't recall many folks saying he was gonna be special.
no one on Scoop. More-so there was chatter of his abilities out of NZ...shooter, agile, etc. Might have been Dodds, Steele locally.
Quote from: wadesworld on January 13, 2026, 05:07:33 PMGood luck getting your life changing $30 to pay for your Pickleball League tonight!
He sure does like to post about all his pickleball tournaments. :-X
Quote from: Viper on January 13, 2026, 06:36:19 PMno one on Scoop. More-so there was chatter of his abilities out of NZ...shooter, agile, etc. Might have been Dodds, Steele locally.
Quote from: Goose on June 30, 2023, 02:08:28 AMI would be beyond jacked if Stevie gave them 9ppg, especially without having 2-3 games that pad that number. If he can keep the other teams D honest, they might have a better offer next season than this past season.
Jay Bee is correct on it is going to be hard to match some of the individual shooting numbers , but I think there will be big improvement in Gold and Ross in that regard.
Starting to get excited for the upcoming season.
I didnt bother going any further back. Searching Gold on Muscoop is tough.