What an absolute disaster. It's easy to blame Sean and Chase , but I have no fking idea what we were doing the final 5 mins. We looked like we were in a corn maze. That's a combination of poor leadership and players having no idea how to play in a tight game down the stretch. Very, very, upsetting.
Marquette Try Not to Implode Challenge
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Quote from: MuggsyB on Today at 08:20:14 PMWhat an absolute disaster. It's easy to blame Sean and Chase down the stretch, but I have no fking idea what we were doing the final 5 mins. We looked like we were in a corn maze. That's a combination of poor leadership and players having no idea how to play in a tight game down the stretch. Very, very, upsetting.
You'd think veteran players who've been in a system for three years would be a lot better in these situations. We've been absolutely horrible in clutch situations this year. Another blow for RGV.
Apathy is coming quick.
Rgv boys. Rgv.
Marquette basketball is a game of runs. And by runs, I mean sh*tting ourselves whenever we have a significant lead.
Sadly, Marquette closes the year without a single Q1, Q2, or Q3 win. Hopefully next 2026 will be better.
Quote from: BLWarrior91 on Today at 08:23:21 PMYou'd think veteran players who've been in a system for three years would be a lot better in these situations. We've been absolutely horrible in clutch situations this year. Another blow for RGV.
Apathy is coming quick.
Terrible in every conceivable way. That's why I thought we would need a cushion. But it's beyond the unconscionable turns and matador D. It's literally like we've never played basketball. It's infuriating.
This game kinda reminded me of those games where we'd let a bottom dweller hang around for too long but pull it out in the end. Then we'd all complain that the team needs to get their heads out of their butts and not let such a bad team make it a game.
We're that team now to other fanbases.
RGV sounds like a respiratory virus.
Was pleased with the effort overall. Tightened up in the last few minutes.
Doesn't seem like much leadership on this team. We were promised RGV would prevent that from happening. Ross just seemed out of control at the end. Gold played good.
Didn't miss Zaide at all.
Glad Tre and Caedin didn't play. Those guys need to pack their bags. Sean has been here 4 years also. That's enough. Replace those 3 and we'll have a chance to be decent next year.
Quote from: cheebs09 on Today at 08:26:55 PMRGV sounds like a respiratory virus.
Well, appears to make our guys choke, so...
I think it's best we lose every game the rest of the year.
1) Shaka can move on to somewhere where this is acceptable.
2) I'm not sure any of us want to pick a SoG. None of them deserve it.
Quote from: Small Orange Soda on Today at 08:25:50 PMThis game kinda reminded me of those games where we'd let a bottom dweller hang around for too long but pull it out in the end. Then we'd all complain that the team needs to get their heads out of their butts and not let such a bad team make it a game.
We're that team now to other fanbases.
Even MUBB cant even play the spoiler
Quote from: cheebs09 on Today at 08:26:55 PMRGV sounds like a respiratory virus.
Rarely Getting Victories
Don't have the stars (talent) to get the job done in a tight game. But I will say this, Chase and Ben had multiple dagger shots that they simply wilted from and missed. Shaka also doesn't seem to like his best lineup in the game to extend leads. Oh well, next year. Keep developing those that can be developed.
At least Lowery didn't cost us this game.
Quote from: MuggsyB on Today at 08:20:14 PMWhat an absolute disaster. It's easy to blame Sean and Chase , but I have no fking idea what we were doing the final 5 mins. We looked like we were in a corn maze. That's a combination of poor leadership and players having no idea how to play in a tight game down the stretch. Very, very, upsetting.
You going to be saying same thing for games to come. Take a deep breath, the season is done and now watch who can play for next year. MU has lost every pertinent home game that has not happened in long time. Only win is Valpo in OT. Wait for UConn and SJU.
Right now, all I want to hear is Shaka in postgame. Let's see if any reporter has the guts to ask "Coach, can you please describe the altercation, was it physical, verbal? Shaka's answer will probably be in the area of "It's a personal matter". But it puts him on record. No answer will continue to stir the pot.
Heck when all the players leave at years end, someone will dial up a source😄
What was the lineup situation this game? Random and sporadic?
nuke the roster. and some of the staff.
Have probably watched a total of 20 minutes of MU hoops this year, I doubt I will watch another 20. I watch MU hoops because when they competitive it's fun and it facilitates me connecting with my college buddies around how MU is doing. This season has been zero fun. I'm still drinking the Shaka kool-aid but if he doesn't realize what is lacking in his strategic vision for the program we are doomed as long as he is the HC. Doomed I say...
Certainly holds wins to low levels.
Quote from: cheebs09 on Today at 08:26:55 PMRGV sounds like a respiratory virus.
It's funny that FS1 was dunking on MU all game with the missed layup graphics and how many we were averaging.
We all knew we'd lose, it's why I hammered Seton Hall -1. But proud of how they fought for 35 minutes. Great showings from Nigel, Royce, even Josh and Damarius showed flashes. And Shaka sat our worst players like he should have done a month ago, but nice to see a change.
The kind of loss I'm ok with. Back and forth against a decent team with things to build on.
Excuse me Scoopers but it seems to me we have ZERO idea what we are trying to do down the stretch. Yes, Sean began that disaster, but the question is why on God Green earth is he handling the ball for 25 secs two straight possessions? What the H happened to moving the basketball and moving and screening off the ball? Obviously the foul on the 3 was catastrophically ridiculous, but he should have been pulled or our offensive sets should have been different. That's 100% on Shaka imo. I saw 0.0 direction as to what we wanted to do, vs their set defense, with the game on the line. Was there gagging? Yes. But it's much easier to piss all over the place when you're nervous and clueless.
Once SHU showed a zone the entire team's mentality collapsed.
Quote from: MuggsyB on Today at 08:37:15 PMExcuse me Scoopers but it seems to me we have ZERO idea what we are trying to do down the stretch. Yes, Sean began that disaster, but the question is why on God Green earth is he handling the ball for 25 secs two straight possessions? What the H happened to moving the basketball and moving and screening off the ball? Obviously the foul on the 3 was catastrophically ridiculous but he should have pulled or our offensive sets should have been different. That's 100% on Shaka imo. I saw 0.0 direction as to what we wanted to do, vs their set defense, with the game on the line. Was their gagging? Yes. But it's much easier to piss a over the place when you're nervous and clueless.
Muggs. You gotta chill. This season is over. There's nothing to figure out or fix
Quote from: onepost on Today at 08:36:56 PMWe all knew we'd lose, it's why I hammered Seton Hall -1. But proud of how they fought for 35 minutes. Great showings from Nigel, Royce, even Josh and Damarius showed flashes. And Shaka sat our worst players like he should have done a month ago, but nice to see a change.
The kind of loss I'm ok with. Back and forth against a decent team with things to build on.
I respectfully disagree.
Quote from: jesmu84 on Today at 08:38:35 PMMuggs. You gotta chill. This season is over. There's nothing to figure out or fix
Well, I'll be in Hawaii tomorrow. Maybe I'll calm down a click or two.
Quote from: jfp61 on Today at 08:33:07 PMnuke the roster. and some of the staff.
after the BET, all of the staff, starting with the HC.
Our offense was truly offensive. Coming out of the timeout down one, we set up a kick-out for a three. Really? James had a lane to the bucket too.
At UConn on Saturday. How bad could that be?
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on Today at 08:40:58 PMOur offense was truly offensive. Coming out of the timeout down one, we set up a kick-out for a three. Really? James had a lane to the bucket too.
At UConn on Saturday. How bad could that be?
Ouch.
Quote from: MuggsyB on Today at 08:39:34 PMI respectfully disagree.
Did you actually think we'd win?
Our season has been pretty clearly over since Maryland, there's no need to dwell on individual losses.
Hang your hat on the play of underclassmen if Shaka ends up staying and make some money while Vegas continues to give us too much respect.
Quote from: Boozemon Barro on Today at 08:37:37 PMOnce SHU showed a zone the entire team's mentality collapsed.
Which is totally and inexplicably inexcusable.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on Today at 08:40:58 PMOur offense was truly offensive. Coming out of the timeout down one, we set up a kick-out for a three. Really? James had a lane to the bucket too.
At UConn on Saturday. How bad could that be?
i doubt it will be that bad as I can see Hurley experimenting with lineups and resting some players. MU still loses by 20+ though
Quote from: onepost on Today at 08:42:33 PMDid you actually think we'd win?
Our season has been pretty clearly over since Maryland, there's no need to dwell on individual losses.
Hang your hat on the play of underclassmen if Shaka ends up staying and make some money while Vegas continues to give us too much respect.
I thought we absolutely should have won.
Quote from: onepost on Today at 08:42:33 PMDid you actually think we'd win?
Our season has been pretty clearly over since Maryland, there's no need to dwell on individual losses.
Hang your hat on the play of underclassmen if Shaka ends up staying and make some money while Vegas continues to give us too much respect.
I don't gamble and would never bet against my team.
Hold your head high, MU players and coaches ... good days will come as long as good habits endure! :)
Quote from: MuggsyB on Today at 08:20:14 PMWhat an absolute disaster. It's easy to blame Sean and Chase , but I have no fking idea what we were doing the final 5 mins.
Don't feel bad, Muggs, neither did Notso.
Quote from: MuggsyB on Today at 08:46:03 PMI don't gamble and would never bet against my team.
You don't gamble and you never slice do you Judge?
That team is in such a funk that Ben Gold seemed otherworldly good out there at times today.
Then you look at the box score and he was 1-7 from 3. I get he did a lot of other good things, but that's pretty telling.
Muggsy is right that Marquette should have won that game.
Shaka had no business playing Sean in that critical portion of the game with that lineup of Nigel, Adrien, Chase, Royce, Ben playing so good for long stretches in the 2Hz
Literally 0 reason to do that. You needed a win very very badly and that's not the way to let one slip away.
I still felt bad for Coach though, the look of pain on his face at the end of the game said it all
Quote from: MUeng on Today at 08:43:57 PMi doubt it will be that bad as I can see Hurley experimenting with lineups and resting some players. MU still loses by 20+ though
I remember a coach in the WCC telling me that during the 2020-21 season, Gonzaga knew it was so much better than every other team in the conference. Few would experiment and play lineups or styles they usually wouldn't play during the first halves of games. I could see Hurley do that against us.
Sister's of the Poor have awesome "habits" and habits as in religious attire but they stink at basketball lol no pun intended
Quote from: TreeGhost on Today at 08:48:53 PMHold your head high, MU players and coaches ... good days will come as long as good habits endure! :)
Sister's of the Poor have awesome "habits" and "habits" as in religious attire but they stink at basketball lol no pun intended Haha
Quote from: MuggsyB on Today at 08:46:03 PMI don't gamble and would never bet against my team.
Was a first for me too this season
Quote from: MuggsyB on Today at 08:46:03 PMI don't gamble and would never bet against my team.
too bad, it's been easy $$ with the insider info (watching games)
Quote from: MuggsyB on Today at 08:45:10 PMI thought we absolutely should have won.
Well was it coaching or players to blame?
In last six minutes:
No field goals made. It wasn't as if they were playing an NBA team
Ben Gold missed four wide open threes
Ross missed a break away layup, wide open three and wild layups
Sean Jones missed 2 wide open three, fouled on 3 point shot and turnover
Shaka subbed out James for Jones and bad, bad two minutes
Adrian Stevens jumped up in air with ball in hands
Gold had ball stolen on inbound play
Portal guy from Jacksonville St destroyed them on boards and defense
And that's all top of my head.
Is Shaka mailing it in now?
Maybe it's just the effect of losing, but he didn't seem interested in coaching them to attack.
Starts around the 7 min mark
Quote from: WhiteTrash on Today at 08:55:51 PMIs Shaka mailing it in now?
Maybe it's just the effect of losing, but he didn't seem interested in coaching them to attack.
to have Jones in there, I'd say yeah, Shaka has sent the mail
Quote from: cheebs09 on Today at 08:26:55 PMRGV sounds like a respiratory virus.
It certainly does this year. For the last couple of years, it sounded like an effective erectile disfunction medicine.
Quote from: DoctorV on Today at 08:51:14 PMThat team is in such a funk that Ben Gold seemed otherworldly good out there at times today.
Then you look at the box score and he was 1-7 from 3. I get he did a lot of other good things, but that's pretty telling.
Yep. Open dagger after open dagger missed. Can't do that as a senior "shooter". But without him, MU is not even in the game. His defensive wall ups are great. He had several tough rebounds and I liked his drives to the basket. He is a good player. Just have needed more out of him this year.
Quote from: MUeng on Today at 08:43:57 PMi doubt it will be that bad as I can see Hurley experimenting with lineups and resting some players. MU still loses by 20+ though
Hurley isn't like that. He's been very vocal about his respect for Marquette and respects us enough to not hold back.
Case in point, our final home game during the '23-24 season was against UConn. They had already secured the Big East regular season title, and it was our senior night. Hurley saw to it that we lost anyway.
Quote from: WhiteTrash on Today at 08:55:51 PMIs Shaka mailing it in now?
Maybe it's just the effect of losing, but he didn't seem interested in coaching them to attack.
He's looked checked out all season
At least we're not talking about tweets.
Shaka totally dejected in the postgame press conference.
Quote from: CountryRoads on Today at 09:09:19 PMShaka totally dejected in the postgame press conference.
Over what a poor in-game coach he is?
Quote from: CountryRoads on Today at 09:09:19 PMShaka totally dejected in the postgame press conference.
Tough to act otherwise when you've had to eat a heaping pile of shhit all season.
Quote from: CountryRoads on Today at 09:09:19 PMShaka totally dejected in the postgame press conference.
Worn out from all the questions about tweets?
Quote from: onepost on Today at 08:36:56 PMWe all knew we'd lose, it's why I hammered Seton Hall -1. But proud of how they fought for 35 minutes. Great showings from Nigel, Royce, even Josh and Damarius showed flashes. And Shaka sat our worst players like he should have done a month ago, but nice to see a change.
The kind of loss I'm ok with. Back and forth against a decent team with things to build on.
This is the best MU has played this year. Getting Gold in for Hamilton helped. Gold played well. Gold is the only frontline player that MU has who can play position D. He just needs to stop shooting 3s. James played well. Jones made some critical mistakes at crunch time and shows he's no PG. MU lost due to lack of talent and poor roster construction. MU's bigs get pushed around like rag dolls. MU was killed on the glass. Payne had over 20 rebounds.
Quote from: Shooter McGavin on Today at 09:03:53 PMYep. Open dagger after open dagger missed. Can't do that as a senior "shooter". But without him, MU is not even in the game. His defensive wall ups are great. He had several tough rebounds and I liked his drives to the basket. He is a good player. Just have needed more out of him this year.
This was the best version of Ben that I have seen. He wanted this game.
Different game if we could make bunnies
Send a donation to MU by midnight tomorrow to keep the Madison team from overthrowing what Marquette is building. They are scared and will try to stop us. It is our only hope.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on Today at 08:59:14 PMStarts around the 7 min mark
He didn't sound happy.
Quote from: MuggsyB on Today at 09:28:01 PMHe didn't sound happy.
He sounded like he wanted to cry. He made this team. No sympathy!
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on Today at 09:26:54 PMThis was the best version of Ben that I have seen. He wanted this game.
Different game if we could make bunnies
Almost like 3+ years of trying to make him poor man's Steve Novak has been a bad idea all along.
Tightened up in the last few minutes.
- the game ended on a 13-0 SH run
Gold played good.
- He was 1-7 from 3, got pounded on the boards by Payne & then fouled out
Glad Tre and Caedin didn't play.
- Cardin started.
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Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on Today at 09:32:21 PMHe sounded like he wanted to cry. He made this team. No sympathy!
I don't think you need to worry about me being sympathetic in this case. :)
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on Today at 09:32:21 PMHe sounded like he wanted to cry. He made this team. No sympathy!
If Shaka stays, I will be amazed if he can hold on to the best players.
At this point I'm hoping there is some major off the court issue, just to explain this disaster.
Quote from: WhiteTrash on Today at 09:45:02 PMIf Shaka stays, I will be amazed if he can hold on to the best players.
At this point I'm hoping there is some major off the court issue, just to explain this disaster.
It sounds like you're done WT, and if you had the 🔨 would use it immediately.
On our Dirty Dozen Marquette Brothers for Life Text Chain. I am always positive throughout the years. But I Finally went Negative today and they were saying someone stole my phone. Ha Ha
Stephon Payne of SH had 14pts and 22reb tonight.
Mr. Payne average 8&6 as a junior last year playing for Jacksonville
Marquette, the team, had 29 rebounds tonight
Marquette is littered with top 100 recruits.
I think Shaka will be able to keep his good young players. The freshmen are solid or will be more so. Next year we have some good pieces. Heck we need shooters and rebounder and a bangeri8n the middle. So with the freshmen, redshirts and next years class Shaka could have a de ent base. But he will have to use the portal to get what he feels he needs.
This year.... I think need to play the important pieces and do our best. Not going t9 the tourney so let everything else rip
Quote from: jesmu84 on Today at 08:32:50 PMWhat was the lineup situation this game? Random and sporadic?
It was actually a ton better, but some questionable decisions down the stretch
Quote from: WhiteTrash on Today at 09:45:02 PMIf Shaka stays, I will be amazed if he can hold on to the best players.
At this point I'm hoping there is some major off the court issue, just to explain this disaster.
I think it is best we go different directions if Shaka can't commit to making this team as good as possible every single season.
Would someone please turn off the RGV board on the east side of the north basket! It's embarrassing!
Quote from: WhiteTrash on Today at 08:55:51 PMIs Shaka mailing it in now?
Maybe it's just the effect of losing, but he didn't seem interested in coaching them to attack.
He's always had a habit of taking his foot off the gas late. The past teams covered it up. This one can't or hasn't yet.
Prior to this year, it was really my only complaint about Shaka
Quote from: Pakuni on Today at 09:33:01 PMAlmost like 3+ years of trying to make him poor man's Steve Novak has been a bad idea all along.
Poor man's Dan Fitzgerald, who wss a poor man's Steve Novak.
Quote from: MuggsyB on Today at 09:48:22 PMIt sounds like you're done WT, and if you had the 🔨 would use it immediately.
You are on the mark. But Shaka has accomplished enough to finish the season.
We can all see at DePaul what 0, 1, 2, 3, or 4 win in the BE teams do to attendance and recruiting. There will be serious repercussions to a season like this.
Quote from: BM1090 on Today at 09:59:32 PMHe's always had a habit of taking his foot off the gas late. The past teams covered it up. This one can't or hasn't yet.
Prior to this year, it was really my only complaint about Shaka
The offense is creating lots of open shots. We don't hit them. We miss 13-14 layups a game. We have no internal rim defense. These are problems. Our players can't shot, and defense this year is mediocre. Now Shaka's the coach so he is responsible. But shooters shoot in practice but in games they miss. lol. Hm.
Quote from: Daniel on Today at 10:06:14 PMThe offense is creating lots of open shots. We don't hit them. We miss 13-14 layups a game. We have no internal rim defense. These are problems. Our players can't shot, and defense this year is mediocre. Now Shaka's the coach so he is responsible. But shooters shoot in practice but in games they miss. lol. Hm.
You're right but there's more nuance to this discussion. We did miss a bunch of open looks in the last 6 mins, but we also got ZERO opportunities inside the paint minus the Ross miss in transition. Furthermore, in ultimate crunch time, we had 3 turns, 2 bail outs where we out of control but got to the line, and two asinine fga's. None of them were good shots.
Team played well for 36 minutes, they the truth happened, poor coaching, no leadership on the court.
I watched Adrian Stevens a lot, did not score, he is a step slow. Not sure if the new frosh can score next year, but that has to be an area of concern.
Quote from: BCHoopster on Today at 10:10:50 PMTeam played well for 36 minutes, they the truth happened, poor coaching, no leadership on the court.
I watched Adrian Stevens a lot, did not score, he is a step slow. Not sure if the new frosh can score next year, but that has to be an area of concern.
True but would rather have Stevens in than Jones. Feel Marquette lost Momentum when Jones was in and it was too late and could not get momentum back after taking out Jones.
This team is missing a lot of pieces but the main one is we don't have an alpha scorer. Ross is a secondary role scorer.
Last year we had Kam and Jop. Prior years, Kolek.
That's why you have games where we cant finish games. No one wants the ball.
That's on Shaka.
Quote from: Big Papi on Today at 10:17:58 PMThis team is missing a lot of pieces but the main one is we don't have an alpha scorer. Ross is a secondary role scorer.
Last year we had Kam and Jop. Prior years, Kolek.
That's why you have games where we cant finish games. No one wants the ball.
That's on Shaka.
Kolek was never our leading scorer in a season. That's what made us so good.
We had a starting lineup of 4 NBA players and Stevie. We are stratospheres away from that. Portal. Portal. Portal.
Mitchell often made huge plays during crunch time. And timely plays as well.
T-rank projects us to finish 9-22 after tonight (not including BET). I have no clue where to find four conference wins from. Projected to be favorites at home against Xavier and DePaul. That's it. And that may change shortly.
Marquette history aside, this will be an unprecedented trajectory of failure (four straight NCAAT seasons into a 20+ loss season). I cannot find a similar case study like this.
This team is so bad it's not even fun to come troll Scoop anymore. Anyone of you who want to keep Shaka as coach are insane.
Just heard one of the wildest sports related things I've heard in some time.
New Mexico, who beat Marquette in the tournament, lost EVERY SINGLE PLAYER AND COACH from last years team. Pitinos son left for Xavier.
Every single player.
They are 10-2!
Marquette lost 0 players and coaches.
They are 5-9.
Unbelievable. Remarkable. Devastating.
Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on Today at 10:29:13 PMT-rank projects us to finish 9-22 after tonight (not including BET). I have no clue where to find four conference wins from. Projected to be favorites at home against Xavier and DePaul. That's it. And that may change shortly.
Marquette history aside, this will be an unprecedented trajectory of failure (four straight NCAAT seasons into a 20+ loss season). I cannot find a similar case study like this.
In college hoops history??
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on Today at 10:03:27 PMPoor man's Dan Fitzgerald, who was a poor man's Steve Novak.
Reminds me of one of my favorite Josh Ritter songs, "Kathleen," including the lyrics near the beginning...
"They try and they try but everything that they do
Is the ghost of a trace of a pale imitation of you
I'll be the one to drive you back home Kathleen"
https://youtu.be/2Wbqlok2GbE?si=wJDJB4bHkVEZdNN-
And, yes, tonight's performance was a collective failure. Though I am a passionate and relentless MU fan, I choose to step away from the craziness and desolation of our current situation. I hope for better next year, like I did as a student from 84-88. Yikes.
Quote from: DoctorV on Today at 10:31:47 PMJust heard one of the wildest sports related things I've heard in some time.
New Mexico, who beat Marquette in the tournament, lost EVERY SINGLE PLAYER AND COACH from last years team. Pitinos son left for Xavier.
Every single player.
They are 10-2!
Marquette lost 0 players and coaches.
They are 5-9.
Unbelievable. Remarkable. Devastating.
Wow. That is worth noting.
Elonsmusk is somewhere fuming that he can't point to a win as some evidence of "progress". Poor guy.
Quote from: onepost on Today at 10:39:08 PMElonsmusk is somewhere fuming that he can't point to a win as some evidence of "progress". Poor guy.
I was impressed with a couple stretches where they got lost in the fight
Quote from: K1 Lover on Today at 08:24:43 PMMarquette basketball is a game of runs. And by runs, I mean sh*tting ourselves whenever we have a significant lead.
Sadly, Marquette closes the year without a single Q1, Q2, or Q3 win. Hopefully next 2026 will be better.
By 2026, I assume you're referring to next Fall?
Quote from: DoctorV on Today at 10:31:47 PMJust heard one of the wildest sports related things I've heard in some time.
New Mexico, who beat Marquette in the tournament, lost EVERY SINGLE PLAYER AND COACH from last years team. Pitinos son left for Xavier.
Every single player.
They are 10-2!
Marquette lost 0 players and coaches.
They are 5-9.
Unbelievable. Remarkable. Devastating.
Pretty sure Marquette lost a few important players.
Quote from: Zog from Margo on Today at 09:22:41 PMThis is the best MU has played this year. Getting Gold in for Hamilton helped. Gold played well. Gold is the only frontline player that MU has who can play position D. He just needs to stop shooting 3s. James played well. Jones made some critical mistakes at crunch time and shows he's no PG. MU lost due to lack of talent and poor roster construction. MU's bigs get pushed around like rag dolls. MU was killed on the glass. Payne had over 20 rebounds.
He won't stop shooting 3's, if he is open is what he is supposed to do.
Quote from: MuggsyB on Today at 08:40:29 PMWell, I'll be in Hawaii tomorrow. Maybe I'll calm down a click or two.
Enjoy the new 11% tax
Quote from: Markusquette on Today at 10:43:22 PMI was impressed with a couple stretches where they got lost in the fight
That was the 30 minutes in between them just being "lost", right?
It's going to be funny when Shaka moves on after this year but Nigel, Stevens and Sheek stay for the new coach instead of going with him
Quote from: Newsdreams on Today at 10:57:02 PMHe won't stop shooting 3's, if he is open is what he is supposed to do.
The problem isn't him taking open 3s. The problem is that taking 3s is the entirety of his offensive game most nights. And if you're hitting them at a below 35% clip - and below 30% this year - that should not be the entirety of your offensive game.
Ben should have been developed as a well-rounded big who could stretch teams when necessary, but also provide some offense in the post. Instead, he was developed as a really tall spot-up shooter.
Quote from: JTJ3 on Today at 11:03:22 PMIt's going to be funny when Shaka moves on after this year but Nigel, Stevens and Sheek stay for the new coach instead of going with him
It would be ironic, but I think the roster might be like New Mexico's situation with a complete overhaul if he's gone.
Quote from: Markusquette on Today at 10:43:22 PMI was impressed with a couple stretches where they got lost in the fight
Yup. And the way they "poured into each other" the first 35 minutes. Just wish they kept "pouring into each other" the last 5 minutes. That was the difference.
Quote from: JTJ3 on Today at 11:03:22 PMIt's going to be funny when Shaka moves on after this year but Nigel, Stevens and Sheek stay for the new coach instead of going with him
I don't think he's going anywhere, but if he flees from the mess he made it'll be the quickest heel turn since Hulk Hogan joined NWO.
Quote from: Pakuni on Today at 11:04:13 PMThe problem isn't him taking open 3s. The problem is that taking 3s is the entirety of his offensive game most nights. And if you're hitting them at a below 35% clip - and below 30% this year - that should not be the entirety of your offensive game.
Ben should have been developed as a well-rounded big who could stretch teams when necessary, but also provide some offense in the post. Instead, he was developed as a really tall spot-up shooter.
With a bad, flat shot at that.
Quote from: JTJ3 on Today at 11:03:22 PMIt's going to be funny when Shaka moves on after this year but Nigel, Stevens and Sheek stay for the new coach instead of going with him
Your lips to God's ears, JTJ3!
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on Today at 10:21:37 PMKolek was never our leading scorer in a season. That's what made us so good.
We had a starting lineup of 4 NBA players and Stevie. We are stratospheres away from that. Portal. Portal. Portal.
He wanted the ball at the end of games. He didn't have to shoot to win us games but he did take control of games.
There is not one single player on this team you can say that about.
Quote from: onepost on Today at 11:05:46 PMYup. And the way they "poured into each other" the first 35 minutes. Just wish they kept "pouring into each other" the last 5 minutes. That was the difference.
The clichés and catchphrases are harder to stomach when the team is terrible
Quote from: onepost on Today at 11:05:46 PMYup. And the way they "poured into each other" the first 35 minutes. Just wish they kept "pouring into each other" the last 5 minutes. That was the difference.
Hardly.
The difference in this game (and all the others) is the staggering amount of layups this team misses. It's bad enough we don't have shooters, missing layups is insane. Hit half your layups and the last 5 minutes would never have been an issue. We have to be the worst in division 1.
Quote from: 79Warrior on Today at 11:12:04 PMHardly.
The difference in this game (and all the others) is the staggering amount of layups this team misses. It's bad enough we don't have shooters, missing layups is insane. Hit half your layups and the last 5 minutes would never have been an issue. We have to be the worst in division 1.
I was being facetious with Shaka's annoying ass cliches and platitudes.
Yes in all seriousness you're 1000% right. You know it's bad when FS1 has graphics ready for our awful layup percentages and we manage to hit that average.