This could very well be our day! :)
Or it could be another unmitigated disaster. :(
Ben goes for 30 with 7 threes?
The +1.5 line on this game screams good news for mubb. Not sure I believe it though.
Quote from: MuManiac on Today at 05:52:32 PMThe +1.5 line on this game screams good news for mubb. Not sure I believe it though.
Maybe Vegas thinks it's addition by subtraction. Or perhaps they got into the gummies.
I don't think we've done well with the Vegas lines.
Ben not starting.
What the frick is going on? Throw the ball up.
Quote from: MuggsyB on Today at 06:01:58 PMBen not starting.
He didn't start the last two games either.
Quote from: MuggsyB on Today at 06:05:25 PMWhat the frick is going on? Throw the ball up.
For those attending in person, they said on broadcast there's a clock issue.
Quote from: MuggsyB on Today at 06:05:25 PMThrow the ball up.
That's usually when Marquette's problems start
This start (or lack thereof) is perfectly emblematic of this season
Waiting until the spelling error in the game thread title is fixed.
Hamilton on pace for a 40 pt game.
Bench has improved their cheerleading skills
Quote from: tower912 on Today at 06:07:32 PMWaiting until the spelling error in the game thread title is fixed.
Ty
Why is RP hesitating on an open 3?
Oh...maybe that's why. :(
Sweet Jesus Caedin. That shot had no chance.
Did Ben punch Cody Hatt?
Hamilton with the grade school throw up and stupid make up foul. Just, bad.
burn this roster to the ground
Defense is a sieve. Zero rim protection.
0/6 start.
They just miss everything lol. 4-5 good shots so far not even close.
We miss 14 layups per game. I don't know what the NCAA average is, but that's 28 points plus possible free throws. Yikes!
Quote from: connie on Today at 06:13:52 PMHamilton with the grade school throw up and stupid make up foul. Just, bad.
Awful.
Were both teams instructed to have coordinated Defense cheers since there seems to be no actual cheer leaders out there tonight for some reason?? wtf?
The gang that couldn't shoot straight.
Damrius and Caedin rival Wally and the worst of the worst
Sean!!!
Good grief Chase.
Props to those of you still watching this garbage
Marq offense is brutal, yikes. Hamilton has the green light for threes apparently so that's cool
Quote from: MUeng on Today at 06:19:05 PMMarq offense is brutal, yikes. Hamilton has the green light for threes apparently so that's cool
I mean... can't be that much worse than everyone else
Refs just cost us a hoop.
Great pass from Sean. RP needs to hit that.
the refs cost us nothing. thats our own shot clock operator.
God Awful D from RP.
LFG!
My goodness. They just showed Hatt on the sideline.
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Maybe that wakes Chase up.
It's almost as if when we play the right lineup we don't look AS horrible. wtf is this staff on?
Ben is playing well. Hopefully Caedin isn't going in for him.
Quote from: Jay Bee on Today at 06:33:11 PMIt's almost as if when we play the right lineup we don't look AS horrible. wtf is this staff on?
You think the next few minutes with DO and Caedin will go well?
Quote from: Jay Bee on Today at 06:33:11 PMIt's almost as if when we play the right lineup we don't look AS horrible. wtf is this staff on?
Yes. Ben is actually defending pretty well thus far and has 7 pts. I'm a little lost as to what Hamilton brings to the table.
Really nice stretch there. Maybe the best one of the season.
Quote from: MuggsyB on Today at 06:34:00 PMBen is playing well. Hopefully Caedin isn't going in for him.
Hopefully Caiden doesn't come in for anyone. 👀
Quote from: jfp61 on Today at 06:34:33 PMYou think the next few minutes with DO and Caedin will go well?
Of course. Seton Hall will be shook when they see that look in Caedin's eyes.
Great effort so far, taking it strong, rotating on D. Still missing layups and a couple d assignments, but the energy is its best in a long time
Zero turns is an important stat. Keep that up!
Have to defensive rebound.
Nigel! Great shot fake.
Two great looks for Benny. Needs to lace those.
Ben fouled.
Sean has created at least 6 or 7 wide open looks.
The missed bunnies are beyond infuriating.
Catch the Fing ball Royce! Fk.
Getting a little tired, would have liked to see a TO, but we have the TV TO. DO solid D on the three shooter, but guy is heating up.
Quote from: MuggsyB on Today at 06:40:01 PMTwo great looks for Benny. Needs to lace those.
Since you are posting to yourself, no one else cares, I'll chip in.
Gold missed three, Laphonso says "MU with great look"
Ross missed three, Laphonso says "MU with great look"
Gold missed three, you guessed it.
Fun
We are somehow worse every night.
Chase has to be better. Period.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on Today at 06:48:21 PMWe are somehow worse every night.
this is probably the best they've looked all season.. Which aint great for my finances
Chase is laughably bagless. Guy either rises up for an open three or sprints in a straight line with his left hand. Absolutely zero adjustability, serious dribble moves, or ability to make space quickly
Quote from: Johnny B on Today at 06:50:55 PMthis is probably the best they've looked all season.. Which aint great for my finances
Should be up 15+. But we can't make wide open shots.
Quote from: basedcringeMU on Today at 06:51:27 PMChase is laughably bagless. Guy either rises up for an open three or sprints in a straight line with his left hand. Absolutely zero adjustability, serious dribble moves, or ability to make space quickly
Well said. Driving me up the wall.
Thatta boy Ben.
Let's get Nigel a couple of ballers for next year. He's the real deal. Gold on the way to his best game ever possibly
What's the record for the slowest review?
What's up with our FT shooting????
Why the F did Caedin bear hug him???
CAEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
We might be 20 points worse when Hamilton is on the floor.
They just couldn't have one half to go back to the locker room with a lead
Hamilton played like 20 seconds and has 3 fouls
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HOW DO YOU NOT PLAY JOSH BY NOW
Strongest driver of our performance has been a certain guy picking up quick fouls. Amazing.
That's inexcusable! Take a half-court shot!! WTF???
Get Hamilton out
Why do we never try for two to one at the end of the half?
Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on Today at 07:01:39 PMGet Hamilton out
...of the program. Heard Clarion has an opening.
Positives:
Ben
Nigel
Low Turns
6 total fouls
Negatives:
D rebounds
FT shooting
3pt shooting
Chase
Caedin
Still a pretty good half for us.
Out rebounded 28-13 we are soft. 5/11 from the line we can not shoot
Chase had a shot clock violation, would've had two if they had to review a make on a later play, and then doesn't bother to put a shot up at the end of the half. Zero urgency. Will never feel any serious sympathy for us wasting his senior season, he's literally just a guy and has been the opposite of a leader in almost every real game this year. Enormously disappointing season so far from him.
Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on Today at 07:04:05 PMOut rebounded 28-13 we are soft. 5/11 from the line we can not shoot
Touche.
Tried to stay positive but when Hamilton came in at the end of the first half I said we would lose the lead and we did. I can barely take it anymore!
Quote from: jfp61 on Today at 07:00:29 PMHOW DO YOU NOT PLAY JOSH BY NOW
He already played.
This Regressing Embarrassing Disgrace of a season continues
Shcoked MU with zero turnovers
Quote from: Johnny B on Today at 07:08:54 PMShcoked MU with zero turnovers
And yet we trail at the half.
But let's build on this and get the Win
Quote from: mileskishnish72 on Today at 07:01:46 PMWhy do we never try for two to one at the end of the half?
Great point and that's on Shaka. Had ball with 54 seconds left I believe.
How is MU down only two getting out rebounded 30 to 15, 5 for 12 from free throws and your best player with one made shot for 3 points. Only guess was zero turnovers and no Tre Norman.
Hopefully MU can make threes(which are coming) and get a win at home.
Thank You for Scoop for a place to vent! If not I am not sure I could take this! Lol
Quote from: mileskishnish72 on Today at 07:01:46 PMWhy do we never try for two to one at the end of the half?
Agree we are an embarrassing disgrace. That would be too easy and we are not the best haha
We're definitely capable of winning this game....but I'm concerned it will be like the Gtown debacle.
Chase is driving me fking nuts.
Quote from: MuggsyB on Today at 07:17:52 PMChase is driving me fking nuts.
he checked out weeks ago
The Hall has a lot if lazy passes. Previous MU teams would have had a ton of TOs.
We are letting rebounds hit the Floor and making passes at the ankles!!!!!!! Ugh!!!!!!!
I don't enjoy watching Chase anymore. Just no feel for the game.
He played with control and pace as a "blend-guy". He has neither as a guy we rely on.
We are so bad! This is painful to watch!
Need a time-out.
This is a rag tag team. Bunch of pieces - synergy is absent, focus, etc. They are trying - but.... we can win this, but shooting 38% getting our shots blocked, wow.
Finally. Good kick from Chase.
Hmmm...a pass to a guy alone by the hoop.
Let's go now!
Nice. Good p and r NJ/Benny.
Quote from: MuggsyB on Today at 07:22:40 PMNeed a time-out.
I was in the middle of texting this, stopped, and we promptly went on a 9-0 run. This team tho
How is hall 11-2? the one time i bet against MU the one time they dont look like an embarrassment. F ck
We are playing We are Marquette!
Weird game thread. By far our best performance in a long time. Overall it's been a good effort. Everyone is still whining. They've been solid tonight. Playing smart and tough.
Quote from: 21Jumpstreet on Today at 07:26:37 PMI was in the middle of texting this, stopped, and we promptly went on a 9-0 run. This team tho
Ya...that was unexpected. Chase made his first bucket in the h-c in awhile.
Quote from: MuggsyB on Today at 07:27:37 PMYa...that was unexpected. Chase made his first bucket in the h-c in awhile.
And a couple very smart decisions
Quote from: BM1090 on Today at 07:27:19 PMWeird game thread. By far our best performance in a long time. Overall it's been a good effort. Everyone is still whining. They've been solid tonight. Playing smart and tough.
Agreed. Best we've looked in a long time.
Quote from: BM1090 on Today at 07:27:19 PMWeird game thread. By far our best performance in a long time. Overall it's been a good effort. Everyone is still whining. They've been solid tonight. Playing smart and tough.
We've played very well compared to what we've seen for sure. But we should be up big imo. Missed wide open looks and FT's.
Ughhh.
LFG!!! Stretch this out!
Sean fortunate there. Give that up and get a dime.
Well this has been nice!
Nice!!! And good D from Joshua!
josh for caedin. praise lord jesus
Quote from: 21Jumpstreet on Today at 07:28:51 PMAnd a couple very smart decisions
Yes. Maybe his brain is reactivated because of my suggestions. :)
That might be the best run of basketball of the season, especially defensively
Hoping for a strong finish, we have seen this story before. Love the effort, couple big plays by DO
Quote from: MuggsyB on Today at 07:35:37 PMYes. Maybe his brain is reactivated because of my suggestions. :)
Butterfly effect, Muggs. Well done outta you
Maybe this group will find it. Like this rotation with a lot less Hamilton.
Joshua!!!
Maybe I spoke too soon. :(
Quote from: Warrior_2002 on Today at 07:37:53 PMMaybe this group will find it. Like this rotation with a lot less Hamilton.
And no tre. Shaka sending a message?
Does Clark have small hands ala Scott Merritt?
Alright so that's why Clark doesn't play.
We effectively have 2 front court players in Ben and Royce.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on Today at 07:40:20 PMAlright so that's why Clark doesn't play.
We effectively have 2 front court players in Ben and Royce.
Hell of a block though
I'm starting to see why Ham starts.
Maybe I shouldn't say find "it" but rather "something"
Quote from: mileskishnish72 on Today at 07:40:48 PMI'm starting to see why Ham starts.
I mean Clark isn't getting big minutes either but just play those two to take up space once in awhile is fine by me.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on Today at 07:40:20 PMAlright so that's why Clark doesn't play.
We effectively have 2 front court players in Ben and Royce.
nah clark is still better that the unnamed player
Quote from: BM1090 on Today at 07:40:42 PMHell of a block though
Two of them, but those two shots he took could be one of the worst in MU basketball history.
Sean should not be biting on a shot fake from three.
No optimism as to outcome here.
Wow. Wide open corner 3 nowhere near the hoop. Smh.
Quote from: mileskishnish72 on Today at 07:44:50 PMNo optimism as to outcome here.
We're gonna need a cushion.
Great drive and kick from Nigel.
DO sucks just as much as caedin
Better refocus.
That cannot happen. Fk.
Come on Gold
Why is Ben Gold receiving the ball in our own half under pressure? Lmao
Parham stood there and watched it ugh!!!!!!!
Usually Hamilton does that lol
James had Gold wide open but passed to someone else who got fouled but no call sheesh!!!
Quote from: Warrior_2002 on Today at 07:50:04 PMCome on Gold
Really bad play, but he's played very well tonight
Alright we messed up but got the lead yet! Let's Gooooooo get the Win!!!!!!
Giving up a 6-0 run in 30s due to a brutal effort on the glass followed by a brutal turn is everything that's been wrong with this years squad, and how you lose a lot of games
Quote from: DoctorV on Today at 07:52:42 PMGiving up a 6-0 run in 30s due to a brutal effort on the glass followed by a brutal turn is everything that's been wrong with this years squad, and how you lose a lot of games
100% accurate Dr.V.
Quote from: BM1090 on Today at 07:50:38 PMReally bad play, but he's played very well tonight
Agree and not really his fault. Shouldn't be involved bringing it up.
Royce can't defend the interior.
RP!!! Big shot.
Focus Ben. Knock two down here.
Even Driscoll had to call that one.
Quote from: MuggsyB on Today at 07:54:40 PMRoyce can't defend the interior.
A weakness on this team in general
Let's Go Marquette!
Let's go now!
lol MU gets every call... bailout city
Wow. Didn't think Ross was fouled.
Dumb help by Sean with 1 on the clock.
Chase can't dunk anymore?
Man. No reason to try and dunk that.
Hall is worse than valpo and CMU. disgraceful play from hall
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on Today at 08:00:58 PMDumb help by Sean with 1 on the clock.
Terrible. And we do that constantly.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on Today at 08:01:51 PMChase can't dunk anymore?
He needs to know when to decide on just a layup. Gets caught in between when his mind is made up to dunk.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on Today at 08:01:51 PMChase can't dunk anymore?
Good recovery by the defender on that one, making Chase adjust at the last second
Quote from: MuggsyB on Today at 08:02:01 PMMan. No reason to try and dunk that.
Had a trailer too looked like.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on Today at 08:03:19 PMGood recovery by the defender on that one, making Chase adjust at the last second
Ahh thank you
Thought Chase got fouled slightly
12 missed layups tonight already.
Quote from: MuggsyB on Today at 08:02:01 PMMan. No reason to try and dunk that.
I saw differently. I thought he should have just jammed it with 2 hands. A guy as athletic as him should never get cute. No need for a tomahawk, no need for a layup, just jam the sucker.
Are we better with no Hamilton and no 3pt attempts?
Go Marquette get this Win!!
Getting to the line a lot.
No need to sit Nigel here
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on Today at 08:05:44 PMI saw differently. I thought he should have just jammed it with 2 hands. A guy as athletic as him should never get cute. No need for a tomahawk, no need for a layup, just jam the sucker.
Fair point.
Gotta rebound. Grab the rock with two hands.
Let's go now!
Quote from: WhiteTrash on Today at 08:05:56 PMAre we better with no Hamilton and no 3pt attempts?
Was going to say that
Get a shot!!!!!!!!
We are beyond STUPID.
Sean has to be more in control as the PG, don't throw that. And then Royce lol. My goodness.
Time get James handling the ball not Sean
Sweet Jesus! No reason for Sean to be holding the ball and our primary weapon in the h-c.
Play to win not to save possessions
Get Sean out!!!!!
Geez Sean really imploding here
Not a good last few mins for Sean Jones.
sean lol. over dribbling away possesions and foulling three point shooters
Two horsecrap possessions and then that. Inexcusable. Why are we holding the ball??
MU has not scored a field goal in over five minutes. Not..one..basket
Turned it on at the under 4.
Sean is so bad
I'm afraid Sean might just be dumb.
What is that foul? What the phuck are you doing? He already shot the ball, get out of there.
Quote from: cheebs09 on Today at 08:11:17 PMNot a good last few mins for Sean Jones.
Uhhh.....no.
Omg why is Sean in shaka
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on Today at 08:11:39 PMI'm afraid Sean might just be dumb.
What is that foul? What the phuck are you doing? He already shot the ball, get out of there.
Completely ridiculous.
This team does not know how to finish games and win.
If Seton Hall wins, player of the game for them is Sean Jones
WTF - Shaka needs to sit jones if he cares about winning this game.
these guards suck
Get a soy again!!!!
This is devastating
Sean is terrible.
Unreal. Holding the ball, standing around, seemingly zero idea where we want to score and execute.
Terrible coaching the last three minutes.
Quote from: SonOfWarrior on Today at 08:12:27 PMIf Seton Hall wins, player of the game for them is Sean Jones
Agree what the heck are Hamilton and Jones in at all
Quote from: SonOfWarrior on Today at 08:12:27 PMIf Seton Hall wins, player of the game for them is Sean Jones
Shaka for having him in at that time, smh
Clutch folding job again by Shaka's team - they are good at it.
Omg.
We Are Marquette!!
As usual, too late with the TO. It was obvious on the prior possession that they were lost.
TO out of a time out, I am increasingly losing interest in Shaka
Go Marquette!
Zero defense by chase and gold in two straight possessions.
These seniors make me puke.
We just simply have no one who knows how to win
lololololol
Chase missed that dunk and 3 too
This is absolutely devastating. I wish I wasn't so prophetic that we needed a cushion. Beyond belief piss poor execution when it mattered.
Good night
Lol
MU last field goal was with 6:15 to go.
That is almost impossible, but yet it happened.
We are an Embarrassing Disgrace!!
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on Today at 08:15:41 PMWe just simply have no one who knows how to win
Why were we taking the air out of the ball??
Ross with his trademark blind drive to the hoop
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on Today at 08:15:41 PMWe just simply have no one who knows how to win
Chase is a great kid. He's not a natural leader. Hoping some underclassmen can step up.
This was, something
Welp, thought we would win, then we got up ten in 2H, a recipe for a loss. Absolutely unacceptable coaching by Shaka, he is burying this team. This was ours to take
Yawn. Sit the unnatural carnal knowledgein seniors
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Perfect way to end that dumpster 🔥 to close the game.
Not even sure why I tuned in to watch this game. Must be a masochist.
Dont get me wrong, I had no confidence in a win tonight, so I guess the end result is the same. But man oh man, why give hope only to literally throw it away
36 really good minutes for nothing
No Hamilton gave us a chance No Jones would of won it for us!
Omg UConn next at UConn.
Quote from: #UnleashMalik on Today at 08:17:32 PMYawn. Sit the unnatural carnal knowledgein seniors
Ben was their best player tonight.
Just watched two "seniors" piss that away
If we win 2 conference games, I'll be impressed
Quote from: BM1090 on Today at 08:18:46 PMBen was their best player tonight.
And played zero defense down the stretch.
And 1-7 for three. You cant be serious
Casual 22 boards for their guy
I dont understand how they lost that one. maybe the worst choke ive ever seen. SHU is garbage.
Quote from: SonOfWarrior on Today at 08:12:27 PMIf Seton Hall wins, player of the game for them is Sean Jones
Exactly!
Relationships! Growth!
What a colossal fail.
Quote from: BM1090 on Today at 08:18:46 PMBen was their best player tonight.
How good are we when this guy can't even start for us?
Unreal! Thought we could get one. Needed that one. Ross can't be the guy with the ball in his hands at the end of games. Would rather let Nigel create something and mess up than have Ross run wild.
Some coaching malpractice down the stretch.
Sean Jones is a nice guy and has worked hard to get back on the court, but he's short and not good enough for this level (at least not anymore).
What Shaka did with the lineup down the stretch is exactly what I would do if I wanted to be fired.
Well, we looked almost competent for 35 minutes of that one.
That last 3 minutes...
...but not surprising.
Quote from: Markusquette on Today at 08:19:10 PMCasual 22 boards for their guy
Portal guy
14 points, 22 rebounds, 3 blocks. Impressive
Quote from: Johnny B on Today at 08:19:14 PMI dont understand how they lost that one. maybe the worst choke ive ever seen. SHU is garbage.
The Hall is not a good team. The last 4 years of MU teams wins by 20+.
Quote from: Dish on Today at 08:21:05 PMThat last 3 minutes...
...but not surprising.
Nope.
Unreal gagging.
Quote from: WhiteTrash on Today at 08:22:16 PMThe Hall is not a good team. The last 4 years of MU teams wins by 20+.
Rgv!
Are Shaka and Sean Jones related?
They played hard, nobody can question the effort tonight. That said, when you have an offense as poor as Marquette has, effort just isn't enough to beat the better teams.
This game was close enough to make me think maybe Marquette can win a couple games this year, but they'll need whoever the opponents are to have very very off nights to get any wins.
Quote from: GBPhoenix1993 on Today at 08:25:20 PMThey played hard, nobody can question the effort tonight. That said, when you have an offense as poor as Marquette has, effort just isn't enough to beat the better teams.
This game was close enough to make me think maybe Marquette can win a couple games this year, but they'll need whoever the opponents are to have very very off nights to get any wins.
We didn't have a fg in the final 6 mins. That's more than not being able to beat the so called better ball clubs.
Quote from: GBPhoenix1993 on Today at 08:25:20 PMThey played hard, nobody can question the effort tonight. That said, when you have an offense as poor as Marquette has, effort just isn't enough to beat the better teams.
This game was close enough to make me think maybe Marquette can win a couple games this year, but they'll need whoever the opponents are to have very very off nights to get any wins.
If only the W/L record, ticket sales, and donations to the athletic department could rely on trying hard.
Quote from: GBPhoenix1993 on Today at 08:25:20 PMThey played hard, nobody can question the effort tonight. That said, when you have an offense as poor as Marquette has, effort just isn't enough to beat the better teams.
This game was close enough to make me think maybe Marquette can win a couple games this year, but they'll need whoever the opponents are to have very very off nights to get any wins.
I guess I'm a glass half empty guy, that looked like our best chance to get a W. >:(
Again Sitting Hamilton gave us a chance. Sitting Jones would of gave us a Win!
Chase, Sean, Zaide, and Norman. What an absolute joke of a veteran guard core. Clean unnatural carnal knowledgeing house, Shaka.
Quote from: WhiteTrash on Today at 08:28:50 PMI guess I'm a glass half empty guy, that looked like our best chance to get a W. >:(
I think Xavier at home and DePaul at home are the best chances. And I wouldn't be at all surprised if we lose both of those too.
Quote from: MuggsyB on Today at 08:26:44 PMWe didn't have a fg in the final 6 mins. That's more than not being able to beat the so called better ball clubs.
Over 6 Minutes
Have been going to most all Marquette games since the 1960s and this is the worst I can remember a Marquette team being. It is awful unfortunately
Texas moved off Shaka after 5 seasons. We'll need to as well. Might lose James and some recruits, but so be it. Blow it up and rebuild with a clean slate. Get a guy that embraces the dynamics of today's game, i.e. roster building.
It's hard for me to agree with the thought that they played hard when they gave up 20 offensive rebounds.
Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on Today at 08:29:46 PMAgain Sitting Hamilton gave us a chance. Sitting Jones would of gave us a Win!
In 1 possession games like this, the 4 minutes were still too much for Hamilton. The one thing I noticed is when Hamilton chest bumps or screams at another player, they pretty much just ignore him. I think everyone has had it with his poor play all year.
At least Phillips had some sweet EGBs on the stationary bike.
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on Today at 08:30:28 PMI think Xavier at home and DePaul at home are the best chances. And I wouldn't be at all surprised if we lose both of those too.
An O-for in the BE will be a massive shock to the MU program. There will be changes if so, and it is very much in play.
Quote from: WhiteTrash on Today at 08:46:06 PMAn O-for in the BE will be a massive shock to the MU program. There will be changes if so, and it is very much in play.
A 20-loss season would be a massive shock as we've NEVER had one of those. 7-13 with a first-round BET loss gets us there...and we're not winning 7 Big East games.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on Today at 09:01:49 PMA 20-loss season would be a massive shock
20?? We're looking at 25.