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Title: Zaide Didn’t Travel With Team
Post by: TallTitan34 on December 20, 2025, 04:36:05 PM


https://x.com/marquettembb/status/2002507747506651481?s=46
Title: Re: Zaide Didn’t Travel With Team
Post by: Johnny B on December 20, 2025, 04:40:38 PM
Gonna need Norman and Owens to really step up if they wanna keep it under 25
Title: Re: Zaide Didn’t Travel With Team
Post by: BCHoopster on December 20, 2025, 04:47:55 PM
Norman give me a break!
Title: Re: Zaide Didn’t Travel With Team
Post by: JTJ3 on December 20, 2025, 04:50:30 PM
Hopefully Stevens and Phillips keep getting more minutes now. 
Title: Re: Zaide Didn’t Travel With Team
Post by: BCHoopster on December 20, 2025, 04:57:35 PM
Zaide, hopefully first domino to leave!
Title: Re: Zaide Didn’t Travel With Team
Post by: MUbiz on December 20, 2025, 05:00:28 PM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on Today at 04:36:05 PMhttps://x.com/marquettembb/status/2002507747506651481?s=46

This is interesting
https://x.com/i/status/2002509939571626160
Title: Re: Zaide Didn’t Travel With Team
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on December 20, 2025, 05:05:51 PM
Quote from: MUbiz on Today at 05:00:28 PMThis is interesting
https://x.com/i/status/2002509939571626160

Do you find ludicrous troll accounts interesting?
Title: Re: Zaide Didn’t Travel With Team
Post by: mileskishnish72 on December 20, 2025, 05:08:18 PM
Well, it it's true, I'm with Zaide on this one.

Seriously, how likely is that the reason for the rift?
Title: Re: Zaide Didn’t Travel With Team
Post by: MUbiz on December 20, 2025, 05:09:38 PM
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on Today at 05:05:51 PMDo you find ludicrous troll accounts interesting?

Oh crap. He changed his name. Didn't realize that. Wasn't it whitesoxfan or something?
Title: Re: Zaide Didn’t Travel With Team
Post by: TallTitan34 on December 20, 2025, 05:10:01 PM
Quote from: MUbiz on Today at 05:00:28 PMThis is interesting

Pretty sure WhiteSoxBill is a troll account.

EDIT: Ah damn. Beat me to it.
Title: Re: Zaide Didn’t Travel With Team
Post by: MUbiz on December 20, 2025, 05:10:40 PM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on Today at 05:10:01 PMPretty sure WhiteSoxBill is a troll account.

EDIT: Ah damn. Beat me to it.

Yeah see that now. Thanks!
Title: Re: Zaide Didn’t Travel With Team
Post by: GoldenWarrior11 on December 20, 2025, 05:25:46 PM
Was he on the bench the other night? 
Title: Re: Zaide Didn’t Travel With Team
Post by: Jay Bee on December 20, 2025, 05:27:06 PM
Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on Today at 05:25:46 PMWas he on the bench the other night? 

Yes. With warmups off, but no apparent sparkle in his eye.
Title: Re: Zaide Didn’t Travel With Team
Post by: Class71 on December 20, 2025, 06:06:43 PM
Listen to what Shaka said post game about Zaide and then it is more clear that he is leaving. So with Zaide, Ben and Chase leaving next year the portal may be unavoidable. There appears to be some significant cracks in Shaka's strategy.
Title: Re: Zaide Didn’t Travel With Team
Post by: CountryRoads on December 20, 2025, 06:25:12 PM
Just more evidence that RGV is total nonsense. Guy that's been in the program 3 years gets pulled from a game and immediately just quits? Lol
Title: Re: Zaide Didn’t Travel With Team
Post by: Newsdreams on December 20, 2025, 06:34:16 PM
Quote from: Class71 on Today at 06:06:43 PMListen to what Shaka said post game about Zaide and then it is more clear that he is leaving. So with Zaide, Ben and Chase leaving next year the portal may be unavoidable. There appears to be some significant cracks in Shaka's strategy.
That would be only one spot so far. There were 15 scholarships.
Title: Re: Zaide Didn’t Travel With Team
Post by: Shooter McGavin on December 20, 2025, 06:35:22 PM
Likely a first domino. 
Title: Re: Zaide Didn’t Travel With Team
Post by: Pakuni on December 20, 2025, 06:43:54 PM
Is it crazy to suggest that maybe we shouldn't jump to conclusions here?
Maybe this is about Marquette basketball, maybe not.
Maybe there's something happening in his life right now that's more important than a game.
Title: Re: Zaide Didn’t Travel With Team
Post by: CountryRoads on December 20, 2025, 06:53:51 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on Today at 06:43:54 PMIs it crazy to suggest that maybe we shouldn't jump to conclusions here?
Maybe this is about Marquette basketball, maybe not.
Maybe there's something happening in his life right now that's more important than a game.

That is fair.
Title: Re: Zaide Didn’t Travel With Team
Post by: willie warrior on December 20, 2025, 07:03:02 PM
Quote from: Class71 on Today at 06:06:43 PMListen to what Shaka said post game about Zaide and then it is more clear that he is leaving. So with Zaide, Ben and Chase leaving next year the portal may be unavoidable. There appears to be some significant cracks in Shaka's strategy.
Cracks? Yes sir. Also some huge fissure along with massive gaps.
Title: Re: Zaide Didn’t Travel With Team
Post by: Spaniel with a Short Tail on December 20, 2025, 07:20:32 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on Today at 06:43:54 PMIs it crazy to suggest that maybe we shouldn't jump to conclusions here?
Maybe this is about Marquette basketball, maybe not.
Maybe there's something happening in his life right now that's more important than a game.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FI_t7YQVQAAgFKt.jpg)

(I concur)
Title: Re: Zaide Didn’t Travel With Team
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on December 20, 2025, 07:22:16 PM
He gone? Sad. Always liked Zaide, but obviously he had been brutal this season. Hope all is good with him.
Title: Re: Zaide Didn’t Travel With Team
Post by: willie warrior on December 20, 2025, 07:24:34 PM
Quote from: CountryRoads on Today at 06:25:12 PMJust more evidence that RGV is total nonsense. Guy that's been in the program 3 years gets pulled from a game and immediately just quits? Lol
Sure starting to sound like Relationship and Growth are taking a hit with the Lowery saga.
Title: Re: Zaide Didn’t Travel With Team
Post by: wadesworld on December 20, 2025, 07:27:09 PM
Quote from: CountryRoads on Today at 06:25:12 PMJust more evidence that RGV is total nonsense. Guy that's been in the program 3 years gets pulled from a game and immediately just quits? Lol

It's total nonsense when we're losing. Everyone loved it for the first 4 years.

Sometimes relationships get strained.
Title: Re: Zaide Didn’t Travel With Team
Post by: Skatastrophy on December 20, 2025, 07:28:44 PM
Quote from: Johnny B on Today at 04:40:38 PMGonna need Norman and Owens to really step up if they wanna keep it under 25
I, for one, hope we score more than 25.
Title: Re: Zaide Didn’t Travel With Team
Post by: jfp61 on December 20, 2025, 07:32:54 PM
Enjoy Missouri State Zaide.
Title: Re: Zaide Didn’t Travel With Team
Post by: panda on December 20, 2025, 08:13:00 PM
Quote from: jfp61 on Today at 07:32:54 PMEnjoy Missouri State Zaide.

Probably better than us tbh
Title: Re: Zaide Didn’t Travel With Team
Post by: Boone on December 20, 2025, 08:46:10 PM
So Zaide absence may not be related to recent benching?! lol!
Title: Re: Zaide Didn’t Travel With Team
Post by: Zog from Margo on December 20, 2025, 08:50:21 PM
Phillips gives up five points in five seconds.
Title: Re: Zaide Didn’t Travel With Team
Post by: ATL MU Warrior on December 20, 2025, 08:50:54 PM
I think Zaide may be in the right with this decision
Title: Re: Zaide Didn’t Travel With Team
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on December 20, 2025, 08:54:54 PM
Posted this in a different thread but not sure if anyone else already posted this


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The reason behind this is that Zaide had an argument with Shaka about Caedin Hamilton still starting. Shaka in return benched Zaide.
Zaide will be transferring
Title: Re: Zaide Didn’t Travel With Team
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on December 20, 2025, 09:05:08 PM
Relationships Growth Transferring
Title: Re: Zaide Didn’t Travel With Team
Post by: Billy Hoyle on December 20, 2025, 09:06:01 PM
Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on Today at 08:54:54 PMPosted this in a different thread but not sure if anyone else already posted this


CONNECTIVITY BILL
@WhitesoxBill
X.com
The reason behind this is that Zaide had an argument with Shaka about Caedin Hamilton still starting. Shaka in return benched Zaide.
Zaide will be transferring

Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on Today at 08:54:54 PMPosted this in a different thread but not sure if anyone else already posted this


CONNECTIVITY BILL
@WhitesoxBill
X.com
The reason behind this is that Zaide had an argument with Shaka about Caedin Hamilton still starting. Shaka in return benched Zaide.
Zaide will be transferring

If it's in Twitter you know it's true
Title: Re: Zaide Didn’t Travel With Team
Post by: wadesworld on December 20, 2025, 09:10:28 PM
Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on Today at 08:54:54 PMPosted this in a different thread but not sure if anyone else already posted this


CONNECTIVITY BILL
@WhitesoxBill
X.com
The reason behind this is that Zaide had an argument with Shaka about Caedin Hamilton still starting. Shaka in return benched Zaide.
Zaide will be transferring

Thanks for continuing to spread a troll account's Tweets.
Title: Re: Zaide Didn’t Travel With Team
Post by: Shooter McGavin on December 20, 2025, 09:17:19 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on Today at 07:27:09 PMIt's total nonsense when we're losing. Everyone loved it for the first 4 years.

Sometimes relationships get strained.

Let's be honest. This is not hard. NONE OF THIS RGV WORKS WITHOUT TALENT.
Title: Re: Zaide Didn’t Travel With Team
Post by: wadesworld on December 20, 2025, 09:24:23 PM
Quote from: Shooter McGavin on Today at 09:17:19 PMLet's be honest. This is not hard. NONE OF THIS RGV WORKS WITHOUT TALENT.

NO KIDDING!
Title: Re: Zaide Didn’t Travel With Team
Post by: Shooter McGavin on December 20, 2025, 09:26:41 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on Today at 09:24:23 PMNO KIDDING!

Then don't bring up the last four years when "everyone liked it".  It's a dumb argument.  RGV is made up bullcrap.  He won because he had talent. Not RGV. 
Title: Re: Zaide Didn’t Travel With Team
Post by: Shooter McGavin on December 20, 2025, 09:27:58 PM
The other fiction is Shaka developed players with marginal talent.  He did not. They were future NBA players whether we knew it at the time or not.
Title: Re: Zaide Didn’t Travel With Team
Post by: wadesworld on December 20, 2025, 09:29:17 PM
Quote from: Shooter McGavin on Today at 09:26:41 PMThen don't bring up the last four years when "everyone liked it".  It's a dumb argument.  RGV is made up bullcrap.  He won because he had talent. Not RGV. 

Relationships and development (growth) are undoubtedly important towards winning in college basketball. Not as important as talent, but they're definitely important.

Find me a college basketball team that doesn't have some cheesy, ultimately pointless motto they live by. When the teams are winning the fans eat it up. When they're losing it's "made up bullcrap."
Title: Re: Zaide Didn’t Travel With Team
Post by: wadesworld on December 20, 2025, 09:30:25 PM
Quote from: Shooter McGavin on Today at 09:27:58 PMThe other fiction is Shaka developed players with marginal talent.  He did not. They were future NBA players whether we knew it at the time or not.

I mean come on. Kolek was a great passing, unathletic white kid who couldn't shoot. Oso split time with a high energy, limited skill Kur. OMax couldn't find the court on Clemson. This is just flat out silliness. He/the staff absolutely developed those players.
Title: Re: Zaide Didn’t Travel With Team
Post by: #UnleashMalik on December 20, 2025, 09:33:05 PM
Quote from: Shooter McGavin on Today at 09:27:58 PMThe other fiction is Shaka developed players with marginal talent.  He did not. They were future NBA players whether we knew it at the time or not.

This is a wild statement. You basically disqualified everyone who made huge leaps under Shaka because they went onto the NBA. Kinda crazy.
Title: Re: Zaide Didn’t Travel With Team
Post by: Billy Hoyle on December 20, 2025, 09:33:45 PM
Quote from: Shooter McGavin on Today at 09:26:41 PMThen don't bring up the last four years when "everyone liked it".  It's a dumb argument.  RGV is made up bullcrap.  He won because he had talent. Not RGV. 

Last season was the first that he didn't have any transfers on the roster and was carried by a Wojo recruit. This year Shaka and the entire university has gone all in with RGV with the branding and merchandise. It's a brand more than anything now.
Title: Re: Zaide Didn’t Travel With Team
Post by: Shooter McGavin on December 20, 2025, 09:47:51 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on Today at 09:29:17 PMRelationships and development (growth) are undoubtedly important towards winning in college basketball. Not as important as talent, but they're definitely important.

Find me a college basketball team that doesn't have some cheesy, ultimately pointless motto they live by. When the teams are winning the fans eat it up. When they're losing it's "made up bullcrap."

Agree, crazy that we'll all get fooled. RGV is a MINOR FACTOR WHEN COMPARED TO TALENT. 
Title: Re: Zaide Didn’t Travel With Team
Post by: Shooter McGavin on December 20, 2025, 09:57:53 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on Today at 09:30:25 PMI mean come on. Kolek was a great passing, unathletic white kid who couldn't shoot. Oso split time with a high energy, limited skill Kur. OMax couldn't find the court on Clemson. This is just flat out silliness. He/the staff absolutely developed those players.

They had talent.  You are kidding yourself
Title: Re: Zaide Didn’t Travel With Team
Post by: wadesworld on December 20, 2025, 10:00:25 PM
Quote from: Shooter McGavin on Today at 09:57:53 PMThey had talent.  You are kidding yourself

No kidding they had talent. Shaka and the coaching staff absolutely helped develop them into NBA players. I get it. We're all mad about what this team is. You don't have to rewrite history to take any credit away from this coaching staff.
Title: Re: Zaide Didn’t Travel With Team
Post by: nyg on December 20, 2025, 10:02:06 PM
Look, it's probably going to be a long season.  Everyone has an opinion as to which player should transfer, and speculation as to the Lowery situation.  Maybe next week, it will be a problem with another. Each will get worse as each week goes by.

My worry would be if this disaster continues to play out, with the losses at home, not getting game ending shots off, getting completely smoked/embarrassed and disgruntled players, what happens to the players that should stay. Do they actually want to be a part of this? I know only speculation, but you can just imagine what is going on with the players, most who have never seen anything like this.

Does James go back home to like St. Johns
Does Stevens go back home to Georgetown, Maryland, Virginia
Does Parham go back home to Pitt
What is going on in Pearson's mind, sitting watching this all? Did I make mistake?

Long way to go and maybe MU makes some credible games, but a disaster year usually has disastrous endings.
Title: Re: Zaide Didn’t Travel With Team
Post by: Shooter McGavin on December 20, 2025, 10:06:10 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on Today at 10:00:25 PMNo kidding they had talent. Shaka and the coaching staff absolutely helped develop them into NBA players. I get it. We're all mad about what this team is. You don't have to rewrite history to take any credit away from this coaching staff.

Oh Lord.  They would have been NBA players on many other teams. With many other coaches.
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