MU has several problems, but one of the top issues on my list is that they have no true jump shooters.
When I watch the games, even against a weak team like Valpo, I could count several shots that the opponents make that nobody on MU could get off, much less make.
I count in this category, players who can get off a 3 point shot quickly, including off the dribble or coming around a pick, players who can drive into the lane and pull up and get off a 10-15 shot over their opponent, and players who can post up and get off a turnaround or fall away shot. Some of these shots have a much higher chance of going in than some of the heaves that MU players are forced to toss up when they drive to the basket and are challenged by a rim protector.
This lack of jump shooters makes MU extremely easy to defend. It shouldn't be any surprise that they have trouble getting off a decent shot in those end of game situations.
Yes, we need more good shooters.
MU does not appear to have a guy who can pull up off the dribble and take a jump shot as the clock is running down. That's for sure.
Pull Nash's redshirt!
Quote from: MU82 on December 04, 2025, 03:59:03 PMYes, we need more good shooters.
It's more than just good shooters. It's having different types of shooters who can present more challenges to a defense.
For example, if a player is no threat to pull up and take a jump shot, the defender can play him tight around the three point line and not be concerned if he drives to the basket where he will be met by the big man who can park under the basket without being concerned that his man can step out for a 10 foot jump shot.
One of the criticisms of MU is that they miss too many "layups". While they have missed some real bunnies.a lot of those "layups" are tightly contested shots close to the basket that are much tougher than a shot from 12 feet directly in front of the basket.
Quote from: wisblue on December 04, 2025, 04:22:11 PMFor example, if a player is no threat to pull up and take a jump shot, the defender can play him tight around the three point line and not be concerned if he drives to the basket where he will be met by the big man who can park under the basket without being concerned that his man can step out for a 10 foot jump shot.
Izzo says hello.
Does Shaka recruit a kid with a real mid range jumper or a kid strong enough to hit a three with a jumper? Not that I have seen, hard to believe. As good as Ross is, he would be unstoppable with a jumper!
Uh oh. Here we go again. Mid-range shots.
Quote from: We R Final Four on December 04, 2025, 04:40:36 PMIzzo says hello.
Bro does produce some great assistant video coordinators, tbh
Quote from: romey on December 04, 2025, 05:35:04 PMUh oh. Here we go again. Mid-range shots.
There's a difference between making it a focus of the offense and being able to hit one if needed.
We don't have a spot shooter or a guy who can consistently use his handles, rise, fire, and bury jumpers. Whether it be at the 3 pt line or anywhere else. As for our unconscionable futility in the paint? We almost never are balanced or play off of two feet. We have no clue how to change angles or direction. And we are wildly out of control like a bowling ball as opposed to a competent D-1 basketball player.
Quote from: wisblue on December 04, 2025, 04:22:11 PMIt's more than just good shooters. It's having different types of shooters who can present more challenges to a defense.
For example, if a player is no threat to pull up and take a jump shot, the defender can play him tight around the three point line and not be concerned if he drives to the basket where he will be met by the big man who can park under the basket without being concerned that his man can step out for a 10 foot jump shot.
One of the criticisms of MU is that they miss too many "layups". While they have missed some real bunnies.a lot of those "layups" are tightly contested shots close to the basket that are much tougher than a shot from 12 feet directly in front of the basket.
Agree with this. And it's my main issue with the no mid-range strategy. You don't need to take mid-range often, but you do need to have a guy or two comfortable creating and scoring from that area when the defense successfully takes away the paint and the three point line.
NBA teams have all but eliminated the midrange, but when you get to the playoffs you see a lot more of it and teams that advance typically have guys that are comfortable there. The same is true for college.
Quote from: BM1090 on December 04, 2025, 06:43:38 PMAgree with this. And it's my main issue with the no mid-range strategy. You don't need to take mid-range often, but you do need to have a guy or two comfortable creating and scoring from that area when the defense successfully takes away the paint and the three point line.
NBA teams have all but eliminated the midrange, but when you get to the playoffs you see a lot more of it and teams that advance typically have guys that are comfortable there. The same is true for college.
Good points. Royce could be that man. Strong, tough guy with a 10' fadeaway would change things.
Quote from: MuggsyB on December 04, 2025, 06:07:43 PMWe don't have a spot shooter or a guy who can consistently use his handles, rise, fire, and bury jumpers. Whether it be at the 3 pt line or anywhere else. As for our unconscionable futility in the paint? We almost never are balanced or play off of two feet. We have no clue how to change angles or direction. And we are wildly out of control like a bowling ball as opposed to a competent D-1 basketball player.
You say this all the time and it's absolutely meaningless.
Quote from: jesmu84 on December 04, 2025, 07:00:50 PMYou say this all the time and it's absolutely meaningless.
That's not an answer, a retort, or anything in between.
Christ, this team can't score on the good looks from three or open shots at the rim we do get and we're worried about mid-range? FFS if we can't make the easy, high-value shots the last thing we want to do is try to open up the parts of the floor where no one regularly hits much more than 0.8 points per shot.
Quote from: brewcity77 on December 04, 2025, 07:25:28 PMChrist, this team can't score on the good looks from three or open shots at the rim we do get and we're worried about mid-range? FFS if we can't make the easy, high-value shots the last thing we want to do is try to open up the parts of the floor where no one regularly hits much more than 0.8 points per shot.
True (except for taking the Lord's name in vain - shame!). It's a good reminder #FTsNoMatta.
Even if we shot an unthinkable 60% from the line, getting there would be a godsend.
I know there is going to be a game(s) where we get lucky from 3. I hope it's Saturday. #pray
Quote from: brewcity77 on December 04, 2025, 07:25:28 PMChrist, this team can't score on the good looks from three or open shots at the rim we do get and we're worried about mid-range? FFS if we can't make the easy, high-value shots the last thing we want to do is try to open up the parts of the floor where no one regularly hits much more than 0.8 points per shot.
I don't think it's a priority for this team. It's more of a concern for teams that are bordering on elite than one in MU's position.
It's not about taking more than a couple of midrange shots per game. It's about changing the geometry of the floor. If you don't have to be guarded in midrange then you're not going to be a threat to pass from that area either. You don't have to actually take the shots but you have to be able to make them. Oso for example wouldn't have been nearly as effective of a passer if his defender didn't have to respect him from 8-12 feet with his hooks and floaters.
But this team has far more basic issues so they don't need to worry about that.
Quote from: BM1090 on December 04, 2025, 07:45:21 PMI don't think it's a priority for this team. It's more of a concern for teams that are bordering on elite than one in MU's position.
It's not about taking more than a couple of midrange shots per game. It's about changing the geometry of the floor. If you don't have to be guarded in midrange then you're not going to be a threat to pass from that area either. You don't have to actually take the shots but you have to be able to make them. Oso for example wouldn't have been nearly as effective of a passer if his defender didn't have to respect him from 8-12 feet with his hooks and floaters.
But this team has far more basic issues so they don't need to worry about that.
Agreed
Quote from: brewcity77 on December 04, 2025, 07:25:28 PMChrist, this team can't score on the good looks from three or open shots at the rim we do get and we're worried about mid-range? FFS if we can't make the easy, high-value shots the last thing we want to do is try to open up the parts of the floor where no one regularly hits much more than 0.8 points per shot.
You're missing my point.
I'm not saying that this collection of players should try to set up more midrange shots. I'm saying that the fact that they don't have players with jump shots makes the offense very easy to defend.
That's a criticism of recruiting.
Given the things these players can and can't do,they are largely stuck with an offense that's going to rely on 3 point shooting, and they're not very good at it.
If the staff had been able to recruit a couple of jump shooters in the senior, junior, and sophomore classes, maybe they wouldn't be in the bind they are now.
Quote from: wisblue on December 04, 2025, 08:29:54 PMYou're missing my point.
I'm not saying that this collection of players should try to set up more midrange shots. I'm saying that the fact that they don't have players with jump shots makes the offense very easy to defend.
That's a criticism of recruiting.
Given the things these players can and can't do,they are largely stuck with an offense that's going to rely on 3 point shooting, and they're not very good at it.
If the staff had been able to recruit a couple of jump shooters in the senior, junior, and sophomore classes, maybe they wouldn't be in the bind they are now.
Yes, we need more good shooters.
A turnaround jumper from the elbow should be worth 3 points due to its importance
Quote from: wisblue on December 04, 2025, 08:29:54 PMYou're missing my point.
I'm not saying that this collection of players should try to set up more midrange shots. I'm saying that the fact that they don't have players with jump shots makes the offense very easy to defend.
That's a criticism of recruiting.
Given the things these players can and can't do,they are largely stuck with an offense that's going to rely on 3 point shooting, and they're not very good at it.
If the staff had been able to recruit a couple of jump shooters in the senior, junior, and sophomore classes, maybe they wouldn't be in the bind they are now.
That I agree with. The lack of Growth from the bulk of our returning players in this regard is a major concern.
Quote from: Shaka Shart on December 04, 2025, 08:52:11 PMA turnaround jumper from the elbow should be worth 3 points due to its importance
SGA utilizes both the step-back, and stop and pop, inside of 17 feet. And from all spots on the floor.
Quote from: MU82 on December 04, 2025, 08:46:29 PMYes, we need more good shooters.
We need more relaxed shooters.
This team is uptight.
Relaxed shooters are good shooters whatever the shot.
Quote from: vogue65 on December 04, 2025, 09:44:39 PMWe need more relaxed shooters.
This team is uptight.
Relaxed shooters are good shooters whatever the shot.
Interesting point. Why are we anxious out there?
Quote from: vogue65 on December 04, 2025, 09:44:39 PMWe need more relaxed shooters.
This team is uptight.
Relaxed shooters are good shooters whatever the shot.
Was Gold relaxed when he hit those 3 wide-open 3s in the second half but not relaxed when he missed the wide-open 3s he took in the first half. How do you know?
Quote from: MU82 on December 04, 2025, 10:04:58 PMWas Gold relaxed when he hit those 3 wide-open 3s in the second half but not relaxed when he missed the wide-open 3s he took in the first half. How do you know?
He's allowed to render an opinion. We do seem a little shpilkes out there for major stretches.
Quote from: MuggsyB on December 04, 2025, 10:15:28 PMHe's allowed to render an opinion. We do seem a little shpilkes out there for major stretches.
Did I say he wasn't allowed an opinion? I asked him a question. Thanks for officiating, though!
Quote from: MU82 on December 04, 2025, 10:26:22 PMDid I say he wasn't allowed an opinion? I asked him a question. Thanks for officiating, though!
I think our shooting is shpilkes. Our passing is shpilkes. Our rebounding and rudimentary catching is shpilkes. We're also on skates defensively, a.k.a. shpilkes. And this is why scoopers are shpilkes and in full meltdown mode.
Quote from: MuggsyB on December 04, 2025, 09:41:46 PMSGA utilizes both the step-back, and stop and pop, inside of 17 feet. And from all spots on the floor.
Why doesn't shaka try to recruit him?
Quote from: jesmu84 on December 04, 2025, 10:33:34 PMWhy doesn't shaka try to recruit him?
He also has the floater in his bag. It's never a bad thing to have tremendous variety in your arsenal.
What's a shpilke?
I bet someone who can't play off two feet is one of those
Quote from: DoctorV on December 04, 2025, 10:37:04 PMWhat's a shpilke?
I bet someone who can't play off two feet is one of those
It's a great word and aptly describes our situation.
Quote from: MU82 on December 04, 2025, 10:04:58 PMWas Gold relaxed when he hit those 3 wide-open 3s in the second half but not relaxed when he missed the wide-open 3s he took in the first half. How do you know?
I get your point 82, but sometimes Ben looks so hesitant to shoot wide open threes he does look like a freshman. If there is anyone on our team that needs to say "WTF let it fly" it's Ben. When he has to shoot quickly (when he doesn't have time to think) he seems to go straight up and have more arc on
As much as Shaka has Caedin screaming that he's the badest guy in the Big Easr, he needs to have Ben shouting the same about shooting until he becomes unconscious when he is open from three.
Quote from: DoctorV on December 04, 2025, 10:37:04 PMWhat's a shpilke?
I bet someone who can't play off two feet is one of those
We do a terrible job of slowing down and using basic footwork/intelligence to drain buckets in the paint.
Quote from: MuggsyB on December 04, 2025, 10:58:55 PMWe do a terrible job of slowing down and using basic footwork/intelligence to drain buckets in the paint.
This bothers me so much. Royce is a big problem in this department. They get the look and panic. All fundamentals go out the window when we get close to the basket.
Whatever happened to playing off two feet and playing through contact?
Quote from: Shooter McGavin on December 04, 2025, 10:43:33 PMI get your point 82, but sometimes Ben looks so hesitant to shoot wide open threes he does look like a freshman. If there is anyone on our team that needs to say "WTF let it fly" it's Ben. When he has to shoot quickly (when he doesn't have time to think) he seems to go straight up and have more arc on
As much as Shaka has Caedin screaming that he's the badest guy in the Big Easr, he needs to have Ben shouting the same about shooting until he becomes unconscious when he is open from three.
I just think he's a streak shooter, as he has been his entire time at Marquette. He's had long stretches when he hit 40%+, and other stretches when he can't buy one.
Quote from: Shooter McGavin on December 04, 2025, 10:43:33 PMI get your point 82, but sometimes Ben looks so hesitant to shoot wide open threes he does look like a freshman. If there is anyone on our team that needs to say "WTF let it fly" it's Ben. When he has to shoot quickly (when he doesn't have time to think) he seems to go straight up and have more arc on
As much as Shaka has Caedin screaming that he's the badest guy in the Big Easr, he needs to have Ben shouting the same about shooting until he becomes unconscious when he is open from three.
GooolllldddBrick
Quote from: MU82 on December 05, 2025, 12:32:35 AMI just think he's a streak shooter, as he has been his entire time at Marquette. He's had long stretches when he hit 40%+, and other stretches when he can't buy one.
Yeah, I get it. But he just looks so hesitant on wide open shots some games. Almost like he is thinking "do I have to shoot?". Maybe it's a body language thing. MU needs second half of Valparaiso game Ben consistently to have any success this year. He's a senior. Time to get the job done.
Quote from: Shooter McGavin on December 05, 2025, 07:34:54 AMYeah, I get it. But he just looks so hesitant on wide open shots some games. Almost like he is thinking "do I have to shoot?". Maybe it's a body language thing. MU needs second half of Valparaiso game Ben consistently to have any success this year. He's a senior. Time to get the job done.
Definitely agree here. I think he's just in his comfort zone now - and his usage and %Shots are up vs. last year, but they're still mild (16% and 18%, respectively). On THIS team, we could use more.. just not in his DNA. Nonetheless, with our roster construction I would be telling him, 'if you have an open 23 foot shot, effin shoot the ball'.
Have Tyler call him and tell him that.
I think 'hoping' for a hot streak with Ben shooting those open looks more often is a better strategy to upset some teams this year, certainly more so than some of the sh1t we're doing.
Quote from: Shooter McGavin on December 05, 2025, 07:34:54 AMYeah, I get it. But he just looks so hesitant on wide open shots some games. Almost like he is thinking "do I have to shoot?". Maybe it's a body language thing. MU needs second half of Valparaiso game Ben consistently to have any success this year. He's a senior. Time to get the job done.
Him passing on the open three to beat Dayton, instead passing to Chase without enough time to get a shot off was a screaming klaxon. He's gotta take that shot.
Likely 2 of the best jump shooters on the team, Nash and Militec are redshirting.
Quote from: MuggsyB on December 04, 2025, 09:47:21 PMInteresting point. Why are we anxious out there?
No alpha mentality. Nigel is closest but he's only a rookie. When your senior and junior leaders would rather play a supporting role at best, you're left with a more passive and anxious team.
Quote from: brewcity77 on December 05, 2025, 08:58:50 AMHim passing on the open three to beat Dayton, instead passing to Chase without enough time to get a shot off was a screaming klaxon. He's gotta take that shot.
He HAD to take that damn shot. Ugh.
Quote from: Markusquette on December 05, 2025, 10:21:26 AMNo alpha mentality. Nigel is closest but he's only a rookie. When your senior and junior leaders would rather play a supporting role at best, you're left with a more passive and anxious team.
Yeah, there really aren't any "killers" on this team, perhaps with the exception of Chase and Nigel. But one is a freshman and the other doesn't have much help.
Honestly, so far, it feels like this is a low basketball IQ team but I could be way off base on that.
Stevens looks like he knows what he is doing out there. Plays with poise and so far decisiveness. He takes open shots with confidence (doesn't seem to hesitate when open) and drives with purpose. Plays defense as well.
He needs more time. He is another potential alpha in addition to Chase and Nigel. I'm sure Shaka is worried that too much playing time and a few mistakes could hurt a young players confidence. But hopefully he is just one of those kids who can handle it (a true future leader).
Quote from: Shooter McGavin on December 05, 2025, 10:45:21 AMStevens looks like he knows what he is doing out there. Plays with poise and so far decisiveness. He takes open shots with confidence (doesn't seem to hesitate when open) and drives with purpose. Plays defense as well.
He needs more time. He is another potential alpha in addition to Chase and Nigel. I'm sure Shaka is worried that too much playing time and a few mistakes could hurt a young players confidence. But hopefully he is just one of those kids who can handle it (a true future leader).
Shaka wasn't worried about giving James and Stevens too much playing time against Valpo. Stevens played the final 20 minutes, 43 seconds; James played the final 17 minutes, 51 seconds.
Quote from: willie warrior on December 05, 2025, 10:11:16 AMLikely 2 of the best jump shooters on the team, Nash and Militec are redshirting.
That's fine. You'd find a way to complain about a different aspect of their game if they weren't.
Quote from: MU82 on December 05, 2025, 10:54:51 AMShaka wasn't worried about giving James and Stevens too much playing time against Valpo. Stevens played the final 20 minutes, 43 seconds; James played the final 17 minutes, 51 seconds.
Agreed with that. Hope he sticks with it against Wisconsin.
Quote from: Shooter McGavin on December 05, 2025, 11:04:01 AMAgreed with that. Hope he sticks with it against Wisconsin.
Maybe losing all his playing time to Stevens will wake up Lowery and he'll finally have a good game. We'll need all hands on deck.
Can't shoot 3s and can't make layups.
Please God, don't let them shoot from midrange. I'll turn my TV off if they start making 10 footers.
Quote from: BCHoopster on December 04, 2025, 05:10:19 PMDoes Shaka recruit a kid with a real mid range jumper or a kid strong enough to hit a three with a jumper? Not that I have seen, hard to believe. As good as Ross is, he would be unstoppable with a jumper!
it was never mentioned in the past...imagine if Oso had a face-up midrange jumper? 😉
Quote from: MU82 on December 05, 2025, 11:41:45 AMMaybe losing all his playing time to Stevens will wake up Lowery and he'll finally have a good game. We'll need all hands on deck.
I forgot the exact words, butCoach made a comment after the game that when things were going badly in the first half some players were showing some signs of brain fog or something like that. He said that when that happens it's time to sit and watch.
Of course he didn't name names, but I assumed he was referring to Lowery. At the game we were wondering if he had some injury or illness that was keeping him out.
I would expect Lowery to be back in the starting lineup tomorrow as long as he showed in practice that he is ready to play.
Quote from: MuggsyB on December 04, 2025, 09:41:46 PMSGA utilizes both the step-back, and stop and pop, inside of 17 feet. And from all spots on the floor.
We need an SGA
Quote from: Shaka Shart on December 05, 2025, 02:30:17 PMWe need an SGA
Shaka just needs to teach a couple of these guys to play like SGA.
Quote from: wisblue on December 05, 2025, 02:25:48 PMI forgot the exact words, butCoach made a comment after the game that when things were going badly in the first half some players were showing some signs of brain fog or something like that. He said that when that happens it's time to sit and watch.
Of course he didn't name names, but I assumed he was referring to Lowery. At the game we were wondering if he had some injury or illness that was keeping him out.
I would expect Lowery to be back in the starting lineup tomorrow as long as he showed in practice that he is ready to play.
Folks forget that Shaka benched Tyler Kolek - yes, the great Tyler Kolek! - several times in their first season together. Of course, TK wasn't really the great Tyler Kolek yet.
Quote from: Johnny B on December 05, 2025, 04:19:37 PMShaka just needs to teach a couple of these guys to play like SGA.
That SGA + 5 draft picks for PG3 trade didn't work out particularly well for the Clippers. I believe Doc Rivers was the coach at the time. Whooooops.
SGA may wind up being a top 10 player of all time. He doesn't appear to have any holes in his game. He may not be highlight reel exciting, but he basically scores at will and rarely makes poor decisions. I have zero answers how to defend the guy.
SGA must be playing off two feet.
Quote from: mileskishnish72 on December 05, 2025, 06:19:20 PMSGA must be playing off two feet.
He does do that quite a bit. His fundamentals are 10/10. He's also: 43% from 3, and 55% fgp. 60% efg. Uhhh.....that's a problem for those guarding him.
Sure better than a repeatedly missed 3 pt attempt.
Quote from: Shaka Shart on December 04, 2025, 08:52:11 PMA turnaround jumper from the elbow should be worth 3 points due to its importance
Quote from: MuggsyB on December 05, 2025, 06:08:18 PMThat SGA + 5 draft picks for PG3 trade didn't work out particularly well for the Clippers. I believe Doc Rivers was the coach at the time. Whooooops.
SGA may wind up being a top 10 player of all time. He doesn't appear to have any holes in his game. He may not be highlight reel exciting, but he basically scores at will and rarely makes poor decisions. I have zero answers how to defend the guy.
We need our players to be like SGA and fill all their holes
I have a golf pro, and you're not him.
Last year he told me to JUST SWING.
The best golf lesson I ever had.
My dermatologist is a very competitive, trophy winning, national bowler. I asked him for his secret. He said relaxing is the key to good bowling.
So, could the key to good basketball shooting be to relax?
Will our guys tomorrow be relaxed? I sure hope so.
Yes, everyone should be welcome to their opinion here on the scoop, or not?
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on December 04, 2025, 11:18:05 PMThis bothers me so much. Royce is a big problem in this department. They get the look and panic. All fundamentals go out the window when we get close to the basket.
Whatever happened to playing off two feet and playing through contact?
Muggsy forget he was logged into his alt?
A shooter is a shooter and there are lots of good basketball players who are not good shooters. Ben is as close to a shooter as MU has. I also see his indecision. He's got range well beyond the 3 point line but I think the coaches have tried to get mostly "toes on the line" 3's. Even last year Kam was hesitant to shoot the deep 3's, but for a shooter, those are not bad shots. Ben needs to stop thinking and just shoot. Shaka also needs to use the trailing 3 more with Ben because that's usually a good, unguarded 3. Lots of Shaka's sets put Ben in the corner and he's getting lots of ball rotation corner 3's, and every time one of those go up, I think of Bobby Knight's old adage "make 'em shoot from the corners".
Pull the redshirt on the Aussie kid. The team needs one more shooter.
Also, coaching tip - you should not tell a shooter what's a good shot and what's a bad shot. Any shot by a good shooter is a good shot. (ref Jones, K - year 1-3)
Quote from: WarriorFan on December 06, 2025, 04:32:56 AMA shooter is a shooter and there are lots of good basketball players who are not good shooters. Ben is as close to a shooter as MU has. I also see his indecision. He's got range well beyond the 3 point line but I think the coaches have tried to get mostly "toes on the line" 3's. Even last year Kam was hesitant to shoot the deep 3's, but for a shooter, those are not bad shots. Ben needs to stop thinking and just shoot. Shaka also needs to use the trailing 3 more with Ben because that's usually a good, unguarded 3. Lots of Shaka's sets put Ben in the corner and he's getting lots of ball rotation corner 3's, and every time one of those go up, I think of Bobby Knight's old adage "make 'em shoot from the corners".
Pull the redshirt on the Aussie kid. The team needs one more shooter.
Also, coaching tip - you should not tell a shooter what's a good shot and what's a bad shot. Any shot by a good shooter is a good shot. (ref Jones, K - year 1-3)
Marquette should shoot less corner 3's?
Quote from: Hards Alumni on December 05, 2025, 10:56:30 AMThat's fine. You'd find a way to complain about a different aspect of their game if they weren't.
Except there isn't a complaint there. Just stating facts. As usual you make a big jump into incorrect allegations which you have no clue about. What a sad piece of work your hard alumni brain must be. Alumni of what--JD?
Quote from: willie warrior on December 05, 2025, 10:11:16 AMLikely 2 of the best jump shooters on the team, Nash and Militec are redshirting.
I want to believe this, but I'm gun-shy that it will end up being a form of the NFL backup QB syndrome where everyone's favorite QB is the backup, until he becomes the starter.
We have chuckers, not shooters.
Rush 95% of shots.
They must might think if it gets in the air it has a chance of going in or of having a foul called.
Maybe just don't have the talent. Asking to much.
Quote from: MU82 on December 06, 2025, 01:03:25 AMWell played.
Well played is correct. SGA played off of two feet possession, after possession, after possession, last night. The result was 33 pts in 3 quarters. Perhaps we shouldn't mock excellent fundamental basketball? You want to know why I must repeat myself? Because we have severe problems/poor fundamentals on the court.
Shooting is really not much more than a ton of practice in the gym and then confidence. Correct mechanics of course, but this really isn't that hard.
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on December 06, 2025, 07:57:51 AMShooting is really not much more than a ton of practice in the gym and then confidence. Correct mechanics of course, but this really isn't that hard.
Yes. But when you are a dysfunctional team in your h-c offense, you don't get rhythm J's Hutch. This impacts our percentage. We need more movement off the ball, far better screening, zip and pinpoint passing, less dribbling, and 5 guys playing as a cohesive unit.
Quote from: MuggsyB on December 06, 2025, 08:02:19 AMYes. But when you are a dysfunctional team in your h-c offense, you don't get rhythm J's Hutch. This impacts our percentage. We need more movement off the ball, far better screening, zip and pinpoint passing, less dribbling, and 5 guys playing as a cohesive unit.
Agree completely Muggs all of the offensive problems you pointed out. The lack of off ball movement and screening is a joke.
However, we still get and miss a TON of open looks.
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on December 06, 2025, 08:11:54 AMAgree completely Muggs all of the offensive problems you pointed out. The lack of off ball movement and screening is a joke.
However, we still get and miss a TON of open looks.
True, very true. I don't know what it is but most of our guys have flat non-arcing shots with minimal rotation. We should hire Rowsey as a shooting coach.
Quote from: MuggsyB on December 06, 2025, 08:18:07 AMTrue, very true. I don't know what it is but most of our guys have flat non-arcing shots with minimal rotation. We should hire Rowsey as a shooting coach.
I swear, most of Gold's misses are because it's flat. When they're not, he's pretty good actually like 2nd half against Valpo. Unfortunately, that's not close to the norm for his shooting.
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on December 06, 2025, 08:21:58 AMI swear, most of Gold's misses are because it's flat. When they're not, he's pretty good actually like 2nd half against Valpo. Unfortunately, that's not close to the norm for his shooting.
It's kind of a mystery how inconsistant his form is. Because you are correct that when he looks good it usually goes in.
If you want to be a good shooting team
( and shoot a TON of 3s ) it would seem to me that you should recruit some actual shooters! Or. Teach guys to shoot. Shaka has done neither ... but, that's fine, he can just tell us more about RGV.
Quote from: willie warrior on December 06, 2025, 06:29:20 AMExcept there isn't a complaint there. Just stating facts. As usual you make a big jump into incorrect allegations which you have no clue about. What a sad piece of work your hard alumni brain must be. Alumni of what--JD?
Struck a nerve, did I, little willie?
Quote from: MUDPT on December 06, 2025, 06:00:28 AMMarquette should shoot less corner 3's?
Yeah, I wasn't the biggest Bobby Knight fan, but if he were coaching today, he'd be encouraging his good shooters to take corner 3s. It's the easiest 3-point shot on the court.
Quote from: Mu8891 on December 06, 2025, 08:32:58 AMIf you want to be a good shooting team
( and shoot a TON of 3s ) it would seem to me that you should recruit some actual shooters! Or. Teach guys to shoot. Shaka has done neither ... but, that's fine, he can just tell us more about RGV.
You must have missed Tyler's significant improvement
My JV team shot better
It's more than recruiting shooters- it's that shooters get WORSE under Shaka. Kam last year. Zaide and Chase this year. The rest of the team.and layups.
Is this a product of RGV - guys know they'll get their participation trophies no matter how badly they play against Valpo and they lost the killer edge you need to be a executing D1 athlete?
Quote from: 1SE on December 06, 2025, 04:04:10 PMIt's more than recruiting shooters- it's that shooters get WORSE under Shaka. Kam last year. Zaide and Chase this year. The rest of the team.and layups.
Is this a product of RGV - guys know they'll get their participation trophies no matter how badly they play against Valpo and they lost the killer edge you need to be a executing D1 athlete?
You must have missed Tyler's 3 point improvement