..after we mop the floor with Valpo, then 'upset' Becky on Saturday, we'll be 6-4.
I think at that point some will start looking back to earlier games and 'what could have been', but we'll be constantly reminded of the gap this year and it'll be a relatively rough one. Nonetheless, will be fun to win these next two.
I think for me what I'm curious about is .. how much PT and when for CH... and even more importantly DO.
We've played a number of teams with very high D-I experience (albeit low continuity, of which we rate 'elite'). Not so tonight. Lotsa youngsters for Valpo, and I'd like to see a convincing, start to finish stomping. #pray
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UPDATE: Same starters. fml
Can't wait for JT Pettigrew to punish us. RRL.
Continuing to roll Caedin out there is bordering on malpractice.
Hopefully he turns the corner tonight but man.
So long as we keep starting Caedin, we have a chance to lose every game. Though I don't think it will happen tonight, it leaves the door open.
Shaka...what are we doing?
Vaporize Valpo very, very, quickly.
Unfortunately I think this one's gonna be close
Let's win this one. Big.
ESPN muting crowd/court mics today, eh?
Quote from: rocky_warrior on December 02, 2025, 07:05:36 PMESPN muting crowd/court mics today, eh?
Muting shot clock buzzers too
So they didn't figure out the shooting issues since Friday
WTF? Is anyone having trouble finding the game on Hulu?
Quote from: rocky_warrior on December 02, 2025, 07:05:36 PMESPN muting crowd/court mics today, eh?
Annoying.. feels like an exhibition game
Why is Shaka pulling James so quick
Quote from: MuggsyB on December 02, 2025, 07:07:51 PMWTF? Is anyone having trouble finding the game on Hulu?
ESPN+ only
what kinda blackmail does 18 have
Quote from: Johnny B on December 02, 2025, 07:08:00 PMAnnoying.. feels like an exhibition game
Sound is very muted all together. I have the volume cranked til commercials. Hm.
Quote from: MuggsyB on December 02, 2025, 07:07:51 PMWTF? Is anyone having trouble finding the game on Hulu?
I couldn't at first, but then it showed up like two minutes after the game started. I do have ESPN in the bundle.
And...we stink
6 pts???
Quote from: Jay Bee on December 02, 2025, 06:34:23 PMCan't wait for JT Pettigrew to punish us. RRL.
ugh. Wasn't surprising to see his start.
One thing I liked -- 16:08, Chase was on the bench to rest for the under 4... but the dookie shirts turned it over and Shaka put Chase in.
We wound up getting nada, but shows me maybe he ... not cares, but is worried, about winning. #pray
Have to make layups. Period. Those are gifts.
Hamilton just 0-1 on layups so far in this one. His best start of the season.
Don't get the parham hype. I could see him being a solid 6 th man or maybe a starter as an upper classman but he's been mediocre at best this year
Quote from: MuggsyB on December 02, 2025, 07:07:51 PMWTF? Is anyone having trouble finding the game on Hulu?
I couldn't find it either but found it on the ESPN app.
I just realized I've reached the point of assuming shots, both 3's and 2's are not going in, no matter how open they are
OT: Did Shaka do a presser after Oklahoma?
C'mon boys, let's see some energy!
Quote from: Johnny B on December 02, 2025, 07:11:49 PMDon't get the parham hype. I could see him being a solid 6 th man or maybe a starter as an upper classman but he's been mediocre at best this year
There's no current hype but after an All Big East freshman season I think it's pretty understandable people had high hopes going into the season, myself included.
The last two defensive possessions have answered my question about why Phillips doesn't play more
Damn, James got clocked with an elbow
Quote from: rocky_warrior on December 02, 2025, 07:05:36 PMESPN muting crowd/court mics today, eh?
Huh, it's working on replays. But not live action.
Did anyone else's feed freeze?
Looked extremely flagrant
The second one made it look intentional
Our 3 pt shooting continues to be troublesome.
One of these games we'll actually hit some open threes and win by 30.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on December 02, 2025, 07:12:00 PMI couldn't find it either but found it on the ESPN app.
I found it by searching Marquette on Hulu.
zaide is a bad defender man
Quote from: jfp61 on December 02, 2025, 07:22:00 PMzaide is a bad defender man
He's struggled a lot this year.
Quote from: Boozemon Barro on December 02, 2025, 07:21:15 PMOne of these games we'll actually hit some open threes and win by 30.
well this the last "bye" game so maybe next year. Not beating anyone left on schedule this year by 30
"let them shoot layups" — Valpo coaches
Not a huge fan of Lowery's effort tonight. His starting spot should be in jeopardy.
Quote from: Johnny B on December 02, 2025, 07:23:18 PMwell this the last "bye" game so maybe next year. Not beating anyone left on schedule this year by 30
buy. smh
I would say we have to make layups or threes. . So far we missed most of those. Wow. 27% shooting is not Good
I'm 55 and have only shot baskets 1 or 2 times in my driveway in the last couple years. If I grabbed a ball right now and went outside, I would have more confidence that I would make a given 3 point shot than any MU player in an actual game.
Quote from: 21Jumpstreet on December 02, 2025, 07:13:10 PMOT: Did Shaka do a presser after Oklahoma?
C'mon boys, let's see some energy!
I looked but didn't find one.
Quote from: MuggsyB on December 02, 2025, 07:23:08 PMHe's struggled a lot this year.
A serious lack of confidence.
That was one of the worst missed layups I've seen in a long time.
Quote from: Jay Bee on December 02, 2025, 07:24:07 PMbuy. smh
Wrote that originally then switched last second.: f me
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on December 02, 2025, 07:25:24 PMThat was one of the worst missed layups I've seen in a long time.
Our lowlights of missed layups this year may last 25 minutes. fml
Man, this is painful.
This is some flat out ugly basketball.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on December 02, 2025, 07:25:24 PMThat was one of the worst missed layups I've seen in a long time.
Zaides or Josh's? I think Josh thought he was fouled, and layup hit the backboard. Zaide passed an open three to drive into the center.
Holy $%$# the shooting is getting worse. I didn't think that would be possible
Boy is this brutal.
Quote from: mugrad_89 on December 02, 2025, 07:28:23 PMThis is some flat out ugly basketball.
Yes. A total fking dumpster 🔥.
Wow..... we are not a connected team.
No flow. Just pressing. It's like they all forgot how to shoot.
I cannot believe what I've been watching with this team This season.. wtf
Never seen a team miss so many open shots and layups
Quote from: jfp61 on December 02, 2025, 07:28:30 PMZaides or Josh's? I think Josh thought he was fouled, and layup hit the backboard. Zaide passed an open three to drive into the center.
Zaide's. And I didn't mean the one where Zaide drove. He was alone under the basket, put it off the glass, and it didn't even touch rim.
We're playing like their jersey color.
Not making the right drive and not making the right pass. This team is making grade school teams look awesome!
Caedin is 0-3 from within 5 feet and was 0-4 last game and he's still on my television.
A solid 0-10 three point shooting
Tre's shot attempt made me audibly gasp hahaha
Quote from: Daniel on December 02, 2025, 07:30:03 PMWow..... we are not a connected team.
We literally look like we've never played basketball. Do they know how to pass off the dribble?
PUT IN THE GO&&AMN RIGHT LINEUP AND LET CHASE COOK. STOP THIS BS.
Nigel, Chase, Zaide (or Stevens), Royce, Ben. Then work.
Stop dicking around guys.
Tre wide open 3... and it's the flattest ugly shot I've seen from an MU guard
Regression is not what you want 1/4 of the way into the season. Good lord.
Another protracted scoring drought - and crickets from Shaka.
8 min drought. Why is Hamilton out on the perimeter so much?
Well I was complaining about 27% shooting. 21.7% now. So..... whoa so,someone has to be able to shoot against these guys. Their defense is nothing
If we lose at this point I might actually laugh. I guess the good thing is this team is so bad I'm not really stressed during the game, I expect nothing
Quote from: JakeBarnes on December 02, 2025, 07:30:14 PMNo flow. Just pressing. It's like they all forgot how to shoot.
It goes beyond the Kelvin flow. They literally aren't playing as a team. Fking horrific basketball right now.
Our FG% is a whopping 22%.
It is almost incomprehensible how bad this team is at basketball
Woof. Left 70 degrees and cold beer at the outside rail of a local watering hole for this mess.
Shaka feeling the pressure......Announcer said he talked to him today and he is not against the portal.....
The heat will continue with this kind of crap play.....
Really really bad......Really bad......
A team assist to turnover ratio of 1/5. Not just a ratio but actual numbers. ONE FREAKING ASSIST in 13 minutes
Quote from: Boozemon Barro on December 02, 2025, 07:32:36 PMTre's shot attempt made me audibly gasp hahaha
Surprised no coach has told him that, at some point in the shot's trajectory, the ball has to be higher than the rim. Might need a physics lesson.
I've thought Lowery would be a good player, but MU might be better served to replace him with Stevens.
Crowd is really sparse.
Playing way too many guys. No flow.
This team is the equivalent of JJ McCarthy's QBR
Careful with the criticisms of Shaka tonight, board: don't wanna come off as racist for suggesting this team sucks.
God this is awful.
Quote from: MUEng92 on December 02, 2025, 07:36:14 PMA team assist to turnover ratio of 1/5. Not just a ratio but actual numbers. ONE FREAKING ASSIST in 13 minutes
Hard to get assists when you can't make a f'n shot.
Is this hockey? Also f&&& valpo for changing their nickname.
Quote from: warriors141 on December 02, 2025, 07:34:37 PMIf we lose at this point I might actually laugh. I guess the good thing is this team is so bad I'm not really stressed during the game, I expect nothing
Comical how bad they look
Ross and James leading our team in scoring at 4 apiece. Omg
Calling this garbage would be an insult to garbage everywhere.
HOW IS 18 PLAYING MORE MINUTES
I'm starting to pine for the days of Bob Dukiet
That was a 4 on 1. Chase scored but this exemplifies a total lack of cohesion.
How far away are we from a James Franklin situation?
They could realistically lose the next 10 games.
Is this worse than the Marcus Jackson PG game?
Our bigs turn it over like jv kids
Oh, goddam.
unnatural carnal knowledge.
Quote from: MUEng92 on December 02, 2025, 07:39:56 PMI'm starting to pine for the days of Bob Dukiet
I was a student during those years – this team is bad, but not that bad...yet.
Chase great pass.... Hope this injury is nothing big. Man. He's the only one hustling non stop
Quote from: MuggsyB on December 02, 2025, 07:40:00 PMThat was a 4 on 1. Chase scored but this exemplifies a total lack of cohesion.
I don't blame him for not passing the ball at this point.
Even the freaking training staff can't do their job. Chase was laying on the ground for 30 seconds before someone strolled over to check on him
Chase even if this is a mild ankle sprain. Feel free to take a break at this point. You can't carry this team much longer without lossing your mind.
I will be shocked if we win 4 conference games.
Edit: if chase is hurt at all we might go winless in conference play
So will Gard start his walk-ons against us on Saturday?
We were 18.5 - 19.5 point favorites
Quote from: mugrad_89 on December 02, 2025, 07:41:23 PMI was a student during those years – this team is bad, but not that bad...yet.
I was too. They had Tony Smith who was better than Chase. James is better than anyone on those teams. Not sure about anyone else
More Clark. Less Hamilton. At least one knows how to be in position.
James got tripped up?!?
Chase 2 medical hardship waiver. May as well
Holy crap
This is hilarious at this point.
I would consider playing the walk-ons.
I want to question the out of bounds call but I don't care anymore
This is embarrassing.
Gosh, this is bad.
More turnovers than made buckets? Than points?
Is this depaul level dumpster fire?
wtf is owens doing? So many guys don't know what to do it seems?
OWENS AND HAMILTON ARE ACTIVILY LOSING US GAMES IT IS WILD PLAY SOME WALKONS
Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on December 02, 2025, 07:31:40 PMNot making the right drive and not making the right pass. This team is making grade school teams look awesome!
or at least UW-Stout
DO discovering new ways for MU to play worse
MADE LAYUP WATCH
Quote from: Johnny B on December 02, 2025, 07:48:23 PMwtf is owens doing? So many guys don't know what to do it seems?
Exactly. They don't look like they know HOW to play. Very upsetting.
This is a #225-250 team. Without Chase? #300
Damn, I had great expectations for Owen's but he is basically a nightmare.
Quote from: MUEng92 on December 02, 2025, 07:43:57 PMI was too. They had Tony Smith who was better than Chase. James is better than anyone on those teams. Not sure about anyone else
TSmith did play 7, 8 yrs in the NBA...first 5 with the Lakers
FOUL BY HAMILTON YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS crap UP ANYMORE
Quote from: MUEng92 on December 02, 2025, 07:49:06 PMDO discovering new ways for MU to play worse
In his defense, the other 4 Marquette players were staring as the ball just went unrebounded
That was the worst half of MU basketball I can remember. And I'm not being hyperbolic. Just a total and complete abomination.
Quote from: Viper on December 02, 2025, 07:50:40 PMTSmith did play 7, 8 yrs in the NBA...first 5 with the Lakers
Chase will too.
1-13 from 3? WTH?
Next to Scott Merritt, is there any other Senior you're more excited to say goodbye to??
Quote from: MuggsyB on December 02, 2025, 07:52:07 PMThat was the worst half of MU basketball I can remember. And I'm not being hyperbolic. Just a total and complete abomination.
Not even the worst half this year. Defense was good and connected. Offense...I have nothing positive to say.
Feels like an exhibition to me. I'm at peace with whatever happens.
Quote from: MuggsyB on December 02, 2025, 07:52:07 PMThat was the worst half of MU basketball I can remember. And I'm not being hyperbolic. Just a total and complete abomination.
If there was a worse one, my brain has erased it from my memory for self preservation
Quote from: BM1090 on December 02, 2025, 07:52:56 PMNot even the worst half this year. Defense was good and connected. Offense...I have nothing positive to say.
You do realize we're playing Valparaiso?
That was not an enjoyable half of basketball.
I've said before that we're probably going to lose at least one game by 40+ this year. But if Chase doesn't play, I think we might genuinely lose to Wisconsin by 70 this weekend.
Valpo is shooting 37% from the field, 25% from 3...and they are shooting significantly better than MU (29%/9%)
Quote from: Viper on December 02, 2025, 07:52:31 PM1-13 from 3? WTH?
Minus James and Stevens we are 0-11 from 3 and 3 of 22 overall.
Quote from: MuggsyB on December 02, 2025, 07:52:07 PMThat was the worst half of MU basketball I can remember. And I'm not being hyperbolic. Just a total and complete abomination.
A disgraceful lack of effort.
Valpo lit it up for 56 points against Southern Indiana. They also lost to Kentucky by 48.
At this point, I might be relieved if we find out there's game fixing going on.
Quote from: CountryRoads on December 02, 2025, 07:53:06 PMFeels like an exhibition to me. I'm at peace with whatever happens.
me too, and a glass of Merlot helps numb things
This is unreal. It doesn't even make sense how bad this team is. Getting worse every day! Shaka can't be this bad of a coach. I'm a he trying to get fired?
It was only a matter of time before Ross got hurt trying to carry this team.
Quote from: MUEng92 on December 02, 2025, 07:53:17 PMIf there was a worse one, my brain has erased it from my memory for self preservation
Losing to Ohio State 52-35 was pretty brutal.
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Quote from: mugrad_89 on December 02, 2025, 07:56:38 PMA disgraceful lack of effort.
As Daniel rightly stated, we aren't connected at all. We look like an undisciplined rec team. Beyond upsetting. That's on Shaka and the entire roster and coaching staff. I expect we'll win this game but we have severe, severe, problems. Perhaps even worse than Defcon 1.
This is unreal. It doesn't even make sense how bad this team is. Getting worse every day! Shaka can't be this bad of a coach. I'm a he trying to get fired?
Does MU have any offensive play to get a big man low for an easy basket? Hamilton should not see the court, he is so bad.
Quote from: Boozemon Barro on December 02, 2025, 07:59:28 PMLosing to Ohio State 52-35 was pretty brutal.
I thought that game was cancelled due to the court on the boat being too slippery
Quote from: lostpassword on December 02, 2025, 07:55:59 PMMinus James and Stevens we are 0-11 from 3 and 3 of 22 overall.
Holy Dante's 🔥.
Quote from: BCHoopster on December 02, 2025, 08:01:11 PMDoes MU have any offensive play to get a big man low for an easy basket? Hamilton should not see the court, he is so bad.
Let me think.....that would be a hard no.
3 team assists.
1-13 from 3 in the first half.
I hate to do this, but this team sucks. Historically bad for this University.
The way these upper classman have been playing it's like no one but chase has improved from their first year at all. Like zero
Quote from: MUEng92 on December 02, 2025, 07:53:17 PMIf there was a worse one, my brain has erased it from my memory for self preservation
I agree that was the worst offensive half of MU basketball I have ever seen.
This is Valpo, an 18 point underdog in an away game. This is not UCONN, not even Depaul.... Valpo has 13 turnovers and are up, yet MU's 9 doesn't help. Everyone, but James and Stevens should be ashamed, especially Lowery, Parham and Gold, who has one, yes one rebound.
Shaka again with his live and die with the three offense. Not working. But the bigger issue for me is the mad scientist subbing he is doing. Why? He pulled James after three minutes and in came Norman, who should be playing one minute a half. Then there were like 10 different combinations, no continuity. I just don't get it. But of course, in Shaka we trust.
MU should be much better in second half and win
The offense is so bad it would look better if we shot nothing but mid range jumpers
My wife said during the first half "They could lose this game." I am ashamed to admit that my
rapid response was "I hope they do." But I meant it in that it would highlight this horrible roster construction with absolutely pathetic big man choices/development.
I'm pissed. The amount of bunnies this team misses is ludicrous. And 3-point shooting? Ha!
Shaka has built up a lot of cred with what he's done over four years. He exceeded my expectations every year. I was buying what he was selling but the bloom is off the rose.
It is going to be a long, unpleasant year for MU fans.
Action is needed between this year and next. If Shaka doesn't adjust and make changes (and send some non-producers on their way) he will use up all his stored-up goodwill and be eminently replaceable.
Quote from: BCHoopster on December 02, 2025, 08:01:11 PMDoes MU have any offensive play to get a big man low for an easy basket? Hamilton should not see the court, he is so bad.
We don't have a serviceable big man.
Need to start James, Stevens, Ross, Gold, and Parham. They need to play the vast majority of minutes. Off the bench play Jones, Lowery, and a couple of minutes of Hamilton. The rest should play in garbage time until they show a pulse. Stop pressing until the half court defense is sound. Team is a mess. No more than 5 three attempts a half with this roster.
25 deflections in a half against Valpo and down 4.
It never occurred to me when I bought a month of Disney+ to see MU games on ESPN+ that I would switch to watch Disney+ instead of watching the MU game
I can feel a bank shot Valpo trey comin. This sucks.
Quote from: mileskishnish72 on December 02, 2025, 08:03:06 PMMy wife said during the first half "They could lose this game." I am ashamed to admit that my
rapid response was "I hope they do." But I meant it in that it would highlight this horrible roster construction with absolutely pathetic big man choices/development.
I'm pissed. The amount of bunnies this team misses is ludicrous. And 3-point shooting? Ha!
Shaka has built up a lot of cred with what he's done over four years. He exceeded my expectations every year. I was buying what he was selling but the bloom is off the rose.
It is going to be a long, unpleasant year for MU fans.
Action is needed between this year and next. If Shaka doesn't adjust and make changes (and send some non-producers on their way) he will use up all his stored-up goodwill and be eminently replaceable.
agreed on all fronts
Worst half I've seen since 1988: ND 36 MU 12
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on December 02, 2025, 08:01:57 PM3 team assists.
1-13 from 3 in the first half.
I hate to do this, but this team sucks. Historically bad for this University.
We're currently a mid-major program, and quite possibly worse than DePaul this year.
I had to make a cocktail to watch second half.
Quote from: MUEng92 on December 02, 2025, 07:43:57 PMI was too. They had Tony Smith who was better than Chase. James is better than anyone on those teams. Not sure about anyone else
Amglavar would be like Stephen curry on this team, also on 89 team. This team way worse. Smith was a 7 year NBA player.
I am cool if hamilton and owens never see the court again
Quote from: mileskishnish72 on December 02, 2025, 08:03:06 PMMy wife said during the first half "They could lose this game." I am ashamed to admit that my
rapid response was "I hope they do." But I meant it in that it would highlight this horrible roster construction with absolutely pathetic big man choices/development.
I'm pissed. The amount of bunnies this team misses is ludicrous. And 3-point shooting? Ha!
Shaka has built up a lot of cred with what he's done over four years. He exceeded my expectations every year. I was buying what he was selling but the bloom is off the rose.
It is going to be a long, unpleasant year for MU fans.
Action is needed between this year and next. If Shaka doesn't adjust and make changes (and send some non-producers on their way) he will use up all his stored-up goodwill and be eminently replaceable.
I said this exact same thing before the Oklahoma game. Sultan said "Good lord." 😂
I compliment Brian Butch's professionalism. If I was him broadcasting a Wisconsin game with the Badgers playing this poorly I wouldn't be able to hold back my laughter
Quote from: Viper on December 02, 2025, 08:04:47 PMagreed on all fronts
I'm at the point where I believe a complete collapse is the best thing for the program. They might lose out. I don't see a game where they should be favored.
I hate to beat a dead horse, but this team is losing 20+ games this year. It is apparent that there is no high-level talent on the roster, and the top players on the team are outmatched, cannot shoot and cannot defend.
We will be lucky to win five conference games this year.
Beyond sad.
Afraid we will make the tournament every five years from here on out.
So cute. We are a family. Who cares about winning basketball games in March.
Super cute. At least these young men are learning about relationships growth, and victory!!!
In no way, form, or fashion should be allow any sort of transfers to intrude on this majestic goal.
I mean, after all, isn't that what big east basketball is all about? Let's run a few games and just have old-fashioned fun!
Also zaide doesn't need to play today
Get Lowery out.
PULL ZAIDE NOW
Hamilton just watching a guy shoot a 6 foot jumper right in front of him. Wtf was that?
What happened to our defense? These guys can't be that bad
Wow what a piss poor 3 possessions on D by Hamilton in a row.
Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on December 02, 2025, 08:09:29 PMI hate to beat a dead horse, but this team is losing 20+ games this year. It is apparent that there is no high-level talent on the roster, and the top players on the team are outmatched, cannot shoot and cannot defend.
We will be lucky to win five conference games this year.
2 high level dudes but otherwise u r correct
Does any of this resonate with Shaka? I mean, this team is Dukiet bad!
This is brutal.
Need to start James, Stevens, Ross, Gold, and Parham. They need to play the vast majority of minutes. Off the bench play Jones, Lowery, and a couple of minutes of Hamilton. The rest should play in garbage time until they show a pulse. Stop pressing until the half court defense is sound. Team is a mess. No more than 5 three attempts a half with this roster.
25 deflections in a half against Valpo and down 4.
We were favored by 24 points
Yikes
Lowery so bad and lackadaisical Shaka has no choice but to turn to Norman lol..
I think the MU Spirit Shop employees are being called into work right now to pull all the RGV logo shirts off the shelves
that ben gold SOTG in a one point win
Quote from: MUEng92 on December 02, 2025, 08:19:35 PMI think the MU Spirit Shop employees are being called into work right now to pull all the RGV logo shirts off the shelves
Who is buying them. If I'm going to get gear i certainly don't want a shirt with a giant RGV logo slapped on it. No one even knows what it means
If Zaide and Hamilton don't get back in I'll be happy.
Unreal we are in jeopardy of losing this game.
How was that an offensive foul on Valpo before the timeout?
Ah. Caeden cheats off early because he keeps getting beat and leaves a guy open for 3
We can't do this again next year. Need like 4 guys to transfer out and 4 more in. Who cares maybe Shaka gets lucky in the portal and it's decent next year. Only decent chance I see
I have no words. Not even mad. Just kind of numb.
Losing isn't the worst thing here. Need to accelerate massive change as soon as possible.
This may be the last chance to win a game this season. Maybe DePaul at home in March.
I'm excited for the new set of acronyms for next season. Should be good.
I don't understand how we are getting worse every game. Makes no sense. And the energy is so down.
Quote from: MUEng92 on December 02, 2025, 08:26:43 PMHow was that an offensive foul on Valpo before the timeout?
Ridiculous call. Never even seen something like that called offensive
Quote from: Boozemon Barro on December 02, 2025, 08:27:14 PMI have no words. Not even mad. Just kind of numb.
The whiskey is helping me. I might need a 2nd half one to reach numb
Quote from: muhoops1 on December 02, 2025, 08:28:07 PMI'm excited for the new set of acronyms for next season. Should be good.
WTF?
MU up to 35% shooting. Ugh
Quote from: Miss Katie's on December 02, 2025, 08:31:06 PMWTF?
Slap WTF on the shirts in the spirit shop and I'll buy
8-19 for layups???? You kidding me?
I'm starting to think that hitting the rim with the ball counts as points during practice.
Valpo is the better team. For the love of god, how can that be true
Feel bad Ross has to finish his college career with this trash team
Quote from: Johnny B on December 02, 2025, 08:31:58 PMSlap WTF on the shirts in the spirit shop and I'll buy
awesome! I'm laughing!!😂
Rakim Chaney would be our second best guard on this team.
Another one 100% on shaka on that
Hamilton is guarding the only guy on one half of the court and still some how lost track of him. That was one of the worst defensive plays I've ever seen
Running around aimlessly
Giving the game away
Verdict is in
Quote from: MUEng92 on December 02, 2025, 08:37:57 PMHamilton is guarding the only guy on one half of the court and still some how lost track of him. That was one of the worst defensive plays I've ever seen
Hes pretty bad on defense. And his offense is only slightly better
Quote from: MUEng92 on December 02, 2025, 08:37:57 PMHamilton is guarding the only guy on one half of the court and still some how lost track of him. That was one of the worst defensive plays I've ever seen
Terrible. Well said.
Quote from: MUEng92 on December 02, 2025, 08:37:57 PMHamilton is guarding the only guy on one half of the court and still some how lost track of him. That was one of the worst defensive plays I've ever seen
Domino
Quote from: Warrior_2002 on December 02, 2025, 08:32:03 PM8-19 for layups???? You kidding me?
I'm curious what our season average is? 45%?
Quote from: MuggsyB on December 02, 2025, 08:39:43 PMI'm curious what our season average is? 45%?
Seems high
MU is just bad at both ends. Really hard to watch these guys. Not enough talent and poor fundamentals. Bad combination
Never is a long, long time but I think Hamilton will never be a competent BE center.
Valpo shooting 68% in the 2nd half.
Yikes!
Hard to imagine how bad this team would be if we hadn't got James
At least the freshman has some pride
Maybe we should start being concerned that James will leave in the portal because he doesn't see this team going anywhere
Parham is lost.
This is a .500 team in the Horizon League.
Parham is so disappointing. I thought he'd have a big jump this year.
Hamilton back in for defensive purposes. Perfect!
Quote from: MUEng92 on December 02, 2025, 08:47:40 PMMaybe we should start being concerned that James will leave in the portal because he doesn't see this team going anywhere
Yeah this is why I don't agree with the posters that seem to be rooting for a total collapse this season.
Quote from: Warrior of Law on December 02, 2025, 08:48:19 PMThis is a .500 team in the Horizon League.
How many bigs in the horizon and A 10 are better than what we have and how easily Shaka could have gotten one or two of them, gotta wonder
Whose rooting for it, it actually is a total collapse.
Quote from: Boozemon Barro on December 02, 2025, 08:49:55 PMYeah this is why I don't agree with the posters that seem to be rooting for a total collapse this season.
Quote from: Johnny B on December 02, 2025, 08:50:33 PMHow many bigs in the horizon and A 10 are better than what we have and how easily Shaka could have gotten one or two of them, gotta wonder
I'm gonna take a wild guess and say 100% of them
Quote from: MUEng92 on December 02, 2025, 08:47:40 PMMaybe we should start being concerned that James will leave in the portal because he doesn't see this team going anywhere
He's very good but every good team has a point guard of his caliber.
Quote from: CountryRoads on December 02, 2025, 08:51:22 PMHe's very good but every good team has a point guard of his caliber.
But less bad teams might not
Hamilton is f$cking worthless.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on December 02, 2025, 06:45:35 PMSo long as we keep starting Caedin, we have a chance to lose every game. Though I don't think it will happen tonight, it leaves the door open.
Shaka...what are we doing?
Well I'll be damned...it actually happened. Haha
Just cartoonishly bad shot from Hamilton. wtf Shaka.... Yeeesh
Does Hamilton get a hockey assist for his attempted tip out on Valpo's 3?
Hamilton is legitimately awful at basketball. I don't see it.
Hamilton low post iso is what we needed there.
I'm at a loss why we would go to Caedin on that possession.
Quote from: Warrior_2002 on December 02, 2025, 08:49:21 PMHamilton back in for defensive purposes. Perfect!
In for that great offense!
SoS... Shame On Shaka
I'm sorry to be so critical but Hamilton SUCKS!!
What are we doing giving the ball to Hamilton in the post?
Need 10,000 more hook shots.
What is the +/- for Hamilton?
Nice rebound by Hamilton (not). Followed by terrible shot
I don't even know what to say. This program has fallen off the cliff. At least James and Stevens have shown some heart, but the team stinks.
Shaka is holding this team back with his insistence on playing CH.
The offense was flowing well without him, put him back in, instant valpo run
I mean you never thought there could be a consideration for firing Shaka after this year but man you may need to for the sake of the program if this year ends the way it looks right now. And man I am a fan of Shaka but this is inexcusable.
Quote from: Zog from Margo on December 02, 2025, 08:55:09 PMI don't even know what to say. This program has fallen off the cliff. At least James and Stevens have shown some heart, but the team stinks.
Nigel will obviously be a centerpiece. Stevens needs 25+ minutes per game going forward.
Quote from: BM1090 on December 02, 2025, 08:55:35 PMShaka is holding this team back with his insistence on playing CH.
The offense was flowing well without him, put him back in, instant valpo run
What's the alternative? Clark? Have you seen him play?
Sweet, my feed froze again. A reprieve
I'd be good with only the freshmen returning next year. The rest of this team can go find someplace else to play.
Did I mention that I hate ESPN plus?
Quote from: Boozemon Barro on December 02, 2025, 08:53:36 PMHamilton low post iso is what we needed there.
Elite name. Elite post. Boozemon Barro.
Pathetic
Good thing we still have 3 time outs left.
Let's send this to OT!
I think Butch is feeling for us.
Quote from: Warrior_2002 on December 02, 2025, 08:55:48 PMI mean you never thought there could be a consideration for firing Shaka after this year but man you may need to for the sake of the program if this year ends the way it looks right now. And man I am a fan of Shaka but this is inexcusable.
It should happen this year but the administration can't because they'd look so bad buying into this nonsense as hard as they did. They'll come out with some soft statement at the end of year about how they're all responsible and all need to make changes.
Butch has been great on the call. He's on point with everything.
Maybe we'll be down 1 with 17 secs. Try again, hey
Quote from: CountryRoads on December 02, 2025, 09:01:29 PMButch has been great on the call. He's on point with everything.
He's actually really good.
Benny!! We can steal a W!
Quote from: Viper on December 02, 2025, 09:01:50 PMMaybe we'll be down 1 with 17 secs. Try again, hey
17 seconds part 3 lol
Best part of game was benching Lowery for the late 13 min. Just zero effort from him all night.
You have got to be f'in poopin me
Beyond belief.
They did it again!
Redux,......
It's actually funny
Timeout, no timeout, doesn't matter lol
Quote from: mileskishnish72 on December 02, 2025, 08:57:29 PMDid I mention that I hate ESPN plus?
Think this is the last plus game. Cancel after this game
Does losing the ball on the way to the hoop count as a shot? 🤔
I am less mad because he got fouled.... but still stupid
Incredible stuff
Do we practice what to do in a final possession situation?
Amazing consistency. The "just don't shoot" method is the #muMbb way.
MU's end of clock play is as bad as it gets.
Well that was a foul against Ross but refs aren't call8ng that with 3 seconds left. Man. Another chance to win it.
At least we didn't have the embarrassment of not getting a shot off after a timeout. Shaka's learning.
Hard to be optimistic on this group.
Quote from: Johnny B on December 02, 2025, 09:05:05 PMThink this is the last plus game. Cancel after this game
Wish I cancelled before this game.
That was an obvious foul.
Ok, that was a worse no call than I realized
So Valpo has no point guard now, their best player hasn't played in last 10 minutes, playing NAIA transfers and going into OT
MU doesn't win, it will be alright for this board to go to DEFCON One.
I went from being extremely depressed to bona fide furious over our total lack of detail and execution with the ball in our hands. Absolutely inexcusable and it's not debatable.
Can u call timeout in the air like that
Quote from: Daniel on December 02, 2025, 09:06:11 PMWell that was a foul against Ross but refs aren't call8ng that with 3 seconds left. Man. Another chance to win it.
Correct.
Taking mighty Valpo to overtime!
Quote from: nyg on December 02, 2025, 09:07:30 PMSo Valpo has no point guard now, their best player hasn't played in last 10 minutes, playing NAIA transfers and going into OT
MU doesn't win, it will be alright for this board to go to DEFCON One.
key...playing transfers!!! NAIA better than Hamilton!
Unbelievable timeout there.
Quote from: Warrior_2002 on December 02, 2025, 08:56:39 PMWhat's the alternative? Clark? Have you seen him play?
Royce at the 4 ben at the 5 was working fine. On other days, Zaide at the 4 and Ben at the 5. Stevens, Nigel, Ross at guard.
Ha, now they only have 3 timeouts left
Mike Deane recruited better classes than our 2023 group.
Valpo is pretty bad
Good timeout
Whitaker has made a couple of contested shots this game, We could use a guy like that.
Marquette giving Valpo all they can handle!
Chase, take over now!!
Zaide rightfully glued to the bench for his play. Caedin somehow immune to the same treatment.
Quote from: BM1090 on December 02, 2025, 09:16:12 PMZaide rightfully glued to the bench for his play. Caedin somehow immune to the same treatment.
its because parham has 4 fouls. But its dumb imo
Quote from: Pakuni on December 02, 2025, 09:10:18 PMMike Deane recruited better classes than our 2023 group.
Dukiet recruited... - scratch that - maybe not.
What happened to Crusaders?
Ah yes, down...1
Let's see if Valpo gets a shot off in these last 17 seconds. From what I've seen, it can be pretty difficult.
Embarrassing to have to ask...but how are we winning right now? Lol
Final seconds...does Valpo get a shot off? Asking for a friend
Quote from: Boozemon Barro on December 02, 2025, 09:22:27 PMLet's see if Valpo gets a shot off in these last 17 seconds. From what I've seen, it can be pretty difficult.
You mean like hitting a 3?
Yay......
Welp it looks like we can't take any notes from Valpo on that
Whew.......
Quintessential win that feels like a terrible loss.
Quote from: Johnny B on December 02, 2025, 09:24:19 PMYay......
I don't feel confident after that win come Saturday. And beyond.
"Worst" win ever? 8-)
The falling sky has temporarily stopped
Yea?
Maybe least excited I have ever been for a Marquette win
I haven't felt this bad since we lost to radford
The sad reality is that Valpo probably wins that game if Pettigrew doesn't get hurt.
I'm making plans to sit in a chair on my deck in 10" of snow for two hours on Saturday rather than watching MU play Wisconsin
I wonder what other programs think when they look at Marquette?...RGV a big mistake? Or, respect for going it as Shaka is? Validation to go portaling? I mean, this drop-off is stunning. A backslide was anticipated, but to this degree?
Quote from: warriors141 on December 02, 2025, 09:25:50 PMMaybe least excited I have ever been for a Marquette win
Do I dare say a morale defeat?
Last time we played Valpo we only won by 3 as well. Dominic James at the buzzer. Of course, that game was on the road and we were ranked #8 in the country. But it's a fun factoid.
Shaka says post game that Valpo might win the MVC. That looks about as likely as Marquette winning the big east.
Easy game. We had it all along. Wow! Go Marquette!
Quote from: rocky_warrior on December 02, 2025, 09:36:48 PMShaka says post game that Valpo might win the MVC. That looks about as likely as Marquette winning the big east.
Marquette to the MVC!
Quote from: rocky_warrior on December 02, 2025, 09:36:48 PMShaka says post game that Valpo might win the MVC. That looks about as likely as Marquette winning the big east.
The fact that this BS goes out just tries to undercut how awful MU is. Total BS.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on December 02, 2025, 09:36:48 PMShaka says post game that Valpo might win the MVC. That looks about as likely as Marquette winning the big east.
Shaka's kind of turning into an excuses guy. That's a little surprising, and not great.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on December 02, 2025, 09:36:48 PMShaka says post game that Valpo might win the MVC. That looks about as likely as Marquette winning the big east.
Smh. Did he forget they lost to Southern Indiana? Where is that school located?
Quote from: MuggsyB on December 02, 2025, 09:41:56 PMSmh. Did he forget they lost to Southern Indiana? Where is that school located?
In the southern part of Indiana.
Shaka is just too far gone. Guy is saying crap like "this is a character building win" and "those guys could win the MVC" to go with RGV platitudes. Pulling that meaningless, horrific game out (the literal worst win Marquette has had since 2008) probably does more harm than good.
Quote from: onepost on December 02, 2025, 09:54:15 PMShaka is just too far gone. Guy is saying crap like "this is character building win" and "those guys could win the MVC" to go with RGV platitudes. Pulling that meaningless, horrific game probably out does more harm than good.
Ridiculous. All there is to say after that is " glad we won but we played like trash and need to be better"
Quote from: onepost on December 02, 2025, 09:54:15 PMShaka is just too far gone. Guy is saying crap like "this is character building win" and "those guys could win the MVC" to go with RGV platitudes. Pulling that meaningless, horrific game probably out does more harm than good.
It's because he knows... he knows
Quote from: onepost on December 02, 2025, 09:54:15 PMShaka is just too far gone. Guy is saying crap like "this is character building win" and "those guys could win the MVC" to go with RGV platitudes. Pulling that meaningless, horrific game probably out does more harm than good.
after listening to the postgame radio interview, i feel as if Shaka will accept a bad season. He definitely mentioned the G in RGV. So, maybe he's not uptight, feels what's happening on court is acceptable in the bigger picture. Gets a little aggravated when questioned.
Quote from: MuggsyB on December 02, 2025, 09:41:56 PMSmh. Did he forget they lost to Southern Indiana? Where is that school located?
Louisiana.
Quote from: Biggie Clausen on December 02, 2025, 09:40:25 PMShaka's kind of turning into an excuses guy. That's a little surprising, and not great.
Was thinking the same thing as I was listening to his post game comments on the drive home.