MU struggles to shoot the ball. Nash and Miletic can both shoot. Pull the redshirts and let them play.
Dumb, this season is over. There are too many holes and lack of talent. These aren't top 50 recruits we are redshirting. Might as well keep them for next year
If I were them I wouldnt waste a year of eligibility at this point to play for this team this year.
Stay eligible for a 5th year of getting paid, whether its here or elsewhere.
Quote from: Aircraftcarrier on November 19, 2025, 09:28:46 PMMU struggles to shoot the ball. Nash and Miletic can both shoot. Pull the redshirts and let them play.
Doing so would be so incredibly stupid that it's hard to comprehend someone seriously suggesting this as an option. Good lord.
Quote from: warriors141 on November 19, 2025, 09:30:51 PMDumb, this season is over. There are too many holes and lack of talent. These aren't top 50 recruits we are redshirting. Might as well keep them for next year
It isn't dumb. They need shooters. Get them some experience this year so they are more ready next year.Sheek is definitely a top 50 recruit.
Quote from: Aircraftcarrier on November 19, 2025, 09:34:27 PMIt isn't dumb. They need shooters. Get them some experience this year so they are more ready next year.Sheek is definitely a top 50 recruit.
It's beyond dumb.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on November 19, 2025, 09:37:54 PMIt's beyond dumb.
The only thing that is dumb is you. Enjoy shooting 30% or under behind the 3 point line.
If Miletic could make a difference he wouldn't be redshirting. Shaka can't possibly be that dumb
Quote from: Aircraftcarrier on November 19, 2025, 09:40:10 PMThe only thing that is dumb is you. Enjoy shooting 30% or under behind the 3 point line.
Sheek is not a 3 point shooter. There's no reason to think Ian would contribute.
Neither are physically ready to play or defend.
But you want to piss away a year of eligibility in what is clearly a lost season.
Pulling the redshirts would be shortsighted idiocy.
There's definitely a dummy in this exchange but it's not me.
Put an amen to it.
https://clip.cafe/the-searchers-1956/put-an-amen-it/
When I was at the Indiana game I couldn't help but notice how weird Miletic's shot looked. Not confident he'll be a knockdown shooter at this level.
Phillips should get some playing time against a zone.
Quote from: Aircraftcarrier on November 19, 2025, 09:34:27 PMIt isn't dumb. They need shooters. Get them some experience this year so they are more ready next year.Sheek is definitely a top 50 recruit.
It is. Wishful thinking that those two would light it up. This team is poorly constructed. That is on Shaka and the staff.
Quote from: Aircraftcarrier on November 19, 2025, 09:34:27 PMIt isn't dumb. They need shooters. Get them some experience this year so they are more ready next year.Sheek is definitely a top 50 recruit.
If Sheek is as good as we hope, he won't be here 4 years anyway.
You want to burn a year of eligility on 2 players because of a couple november losses? Wild.
Quote from: #UnleashNigel on November 19, 2025, 11:13:47 PMYou want to burn a year of eligility on 2 players because of a couple november losses? Wild.
I'm not really advocating for it, but if they're not good enough to be stars in 3 years... Are they good enough for Marquette?
Quote from: rocky_warrior on November 19, 2025, 11:26:58 PMI'm not really advocating for it, but if they're not good enough to be stars in 3 years... Are they good enough for Marquette?
Weve got a junior right now coming off the bench playing around 12 minutes. If he was able to have a 5th year, I'd be willing to bet he'd be a solid player for Marquette.
Quote from: #UnleashNigel on November 20, 2025, 12:13:40 AMIf he was able to have a 5th year, I'd be willing to bet he'd be a solid player for Marquette.
Ringing endorsement!
If the staff determined Phillips was the more college ready and his shooting isn't getting him in, Miletic isn't dropping a redshirt to get into games. And Nash isn't even here yet.
If there are answers on this roster, it's from the guys we've already seen on the floor.
Quote from: #UnleashNigel on November 19, 2025, 11:13:47 PMYou want to burn a year of eligility on 2 players because of a couple november losses? Wild.
3 losses and we have not even played a Top 25 team yet. Look out, this roster is not ready.I am not advocating burning redshirts, but I don't see this team getting much better unless Sean comes back and can get 20 ppg.
Quote from: brewcity77 on November 20, 2025, 07:10:45 AMIf the staff determined Phillips was the more college ready and his shooting isn't getting him in, Miletic isn't dropping a redshirt to get into games. And Nash isn't even here yet.
If there are answers on this roster, it's from the guys we've already seen on the floor.
Isn't Nash still in the Tasmania version of high school?
I thought I read their school years follow the calendar, he'd be eligible to enroll at MU for second semester
Quote from: oldwarrior81 on November 20, 2025, 09:04:44 AMIsn't Nash still in the Tasmania version of high school?
I thought I read their school years follow the calendar, he'd be eligible to enroll at MU for second semester
His school is folding, and he will be at Marquette very soon.
He won't be playing this year.
Quote from: oldwarrior81 on November 20, 2025, 09:04:44 AMIsn't Nash still in the Tasmania version of high school?
I thought I read their school years follow the calendar, he'd be eligible to enroll at MU for second semester
He is going to be here second semester and will be redshirting.
Quote from: 79Warrior on November 20, 2025, 08:12:28 AM3 losses and we have not even played a Top 25 team yet. Look out, this roster is not ready.I am not advocating burning redshirts, but I don't see this team getting much better unless Sean comes back and can get 20 ppg.
Sean's not coming back and scoring 20ppg. Ive said this all of the past year.
Everyone remembers Sean with rose colored glasses, he was never THAT guy. He was a 5'8 defensive guy with speed. Now hes a 5'8 guy without speed.
Quote from: oldwarrior81 on November 20, 2025, 09:04:44 AMIsn't Nash still in the Tasmania version of high school?
I thought I read their school years follow the calendar, he'd be eligible to enroll at MU for second semester
Scoop really needs to calm down holy lord.
No were not burning 2 redshirt for guys who arent ready. No were not playing a guy whos coming to the school in the 2nd half of the season who's not up to speed.
Stop being silly scoop
Quote from: #UnleashNigel on November 20, 2025, 09:12:45 AMSean's not coming back and scoring 20ppg. Ive said this all of the past year.
Everyone remembers Sean with rose colored glasses, he was never THAT guy. He was a 5'8 defensive guy with speed. Now hes a 5'8 guy without speed.
I know one guy that thought that he should have been #unleashed.
Quote from: Its DJOver on November 20, 2025, 09:17:32 AMI know one guy that thought that he should have been #unleashed.
Im on the Nigel train now!
Quote from: brewcity77 on November 20, 2025, 07:10:45 AMIf the staff determined Phillips was the more college ready and his shooting isn't getting him in, Miletic isn't dropping a redshirt to get into games. And Nash isn't even here yet.
If there are answers on this roster, it's from the guys we've already seen on the floor.
This. If Shaka can't even find a few minutes here or there for Phillips, who has beautiful shooting form and already has swished several 3s in garbage/limited time, then obviously Miletic isn't ready.
At this point, I'd give Phillips the few minutes now going to Owens. He can't be much worse defensively, and he at least has a chance to bust a zone.
Quote from: MU82 on November 20, 2025, 10:26:38 AMAt this point, I'd give Phillips the few minutes now going to Owens. He can't be much worse defensively
Well......
I think all of the redshirts make sense individually. Just a bit unsettling to me to have 3 of them on a team that is not exactly trending upwards to say the least. Could have been more valuable to add a player on this team that could help on the court and just having 2 of those guys join next year. The jury is still out on how much value there really is on getting guys here a year early.
Quote from: Jay Bee on November 20, 2025, 10:36:24 AMWell......
Yeah, I absolutely could be wrong, though the sample size isn't enough to really say. Shaka only gave Owens 3 minutes last night, so it's not as if the coach is bursting with confidence about D.O.'s ability to contribute on either end of the court.
Quote from: MU82 on November 20, 2025, 10:58:57 AMYeah, I absolutely could be wrong, though the sample size isn't enough to really say. Shaka only gave Owens 3 minutes last night, so it's not as if the coach is bursting with confidence about D.O.'s ability to contribute on either end of the court.
To be clear, I'd love to find a way to get MP some minutes, but the defense is just so rough. I think this year it's either (a) a foul or (b) blow by waiting to happen... maybe there's a way to hide him, in a zone or something, but it's rough going right now. I think in a year or two he can be fine and I want the shooting.. but the cost on the other side of the ball is too high right now.
I know it's three redshirts once Nash arrives, but it's probably more accurate to think of it as 2 & an empty scholarship. A foreign freshman arriving in January is about as likely to play as Joey was when he came early to rehab.
Quote from: Jay Bee on November 20, 2025, 11:34:19 AMTo be clear, I'd love to find a way to get MP some minutes, but the defense is just so rough. I think this year it's either (a) a foul or (b) blow by waiting to happen... maybe there's a way to hide him, in a zone or something, but it's rough going right now. I think in a year or two he can be fine and I want the shooting.. but the cost on the other side of the ball is too high right now.
Reasonable.
Quote from: brewcity77 on November 20, 2025, 11:50:42 AMI know it's three redshirts once Nash arrives, but it's probably more accurate to think of it as 2 & an empty scholarship. A foreign freshman arriving in January is about as likely to play as Joey was when he came early to rehab.
One could dream that his long range sniping will look so good that Shaka will need him to play right away. But, the stuff of dreams.........
Quote from: brewcity77 on November 20, 2025, 11:50:42 AMI know it's three redshirts once Nash arrives, but it's probably more accurate to think of it as 2 & an empty scholarship. A foreign freshman arriving in January is about as likely to play as Joey was when he came early to rehab.
Shaka essentially used the two extra roster spots on Sheek and Nash.
And Sheek should still be a senior in HS. He's here to get a much needed year in the weight room.
Nash and Sheek will line up with their regular recruiting class, but with a bit of a head start.
Quote from: warriors141 on November 19, 2025, 09:42:48 PMIf Miletic could make a difference he wouldn't be redshirting. Shaka can't possibly be that dumb
Are some of the other guys really making a difference?
Quote from: willie warrior on November 21, 2025, 10:28:39 AMAre some of the other guys really making a difference?
Should we just start pulling fans out of the audience to see if they can be more effective?
Clearly this isn't good, no one is really happy with where things stand, but we haven't hit rock bottom. There is lower than this. Wojo's first year, Shaka's 11-22 season at Texas, the Piano Man, DePaul's last two decades, etc.
Missing the tournament is a failed season to me. I don't care how bad it gets after that. Probably actually worse to finish 17-14 or whatever as it may lead to the staff just thinking they can run back again with the same group.
My only point in suggesting Ian alone pulling a redshirt is that I would like to get a sense of which underclassmen belong at Marquette. Shaka has a habit of keeping guys in the program who have no business keeping a scholarship at this level for 2 and 3 years (Ellis, Amadou, Itejere, Norman, Hamilton).
We know Nigel, Adrien, and Royce (very discouraged by his lack of development, though) are core pieces going forward. So the fact that we're gonna be playing for nothing meaningful, postseason-wise, the rest of this season I want to know if Damarius, Michael, Josh, and Ian are good enough to play at Marquette. But we'll continue to trot out Caedin, Tre, Sean for extended minutes instead so it doesn't matter what I want.
Quote from: onepost on November 21, 2025, 02:31:08 PMMy only point in suggesting Ian alone pulling a redshirt is that I would like to get a sense of which underclassmen belong at Marquette. Shaka has a habit of keeping guys in the program who have no business keeping a scholarship at this level for 2 and 3 years (Ellis, Amadou, Itejere, Norman, Hamilton).
We know Nigel, Adrien, and Royce (very discouraged by his lack of development, though) are core pieces going forward. So the fact that we're gonna be playing for nothing meaningful, postseason-wise, the rest of this season I want to know if Damarius, Michael, Josh, and Ian are good enough to play at Marquette. But we'll continue to trot out Caedin, Tre, Sean for extended minutes instead so it doesn't matter what I want.
Hate to break it to you, but the likelihood of them all being back is greater than the likelihood of them not.
Quote from: onepost on November 21, 2025, 02:31:08 PMMy only point in suggesting Ian alone pulling a redshirt is that I would like to get a sense of which underclassmen belong at Marquette. Shaka has a habit of keeping guys in the program who have no business keeping a scholarship at this level for 2 and 3 years (Ellis, Amadou, Itejere, Norman, Hamilton).
We know Nigel, Adrien, and Royce (very discouraged by his lack of development, though) are core pieces going forward. So the fact that we're gonna be playing for nothing meaningful, postseason-wise, the rest of this season I want to know if Damarius, Michael, Josh, and Ian are good enough to play at Marquette. But we'll continue to trot out Caedin, Tre, Sean for extended minutes instead so it doesn't matter what I want.
You really should review your posts before hitting the button and edit out comments like the bolded. It's laughable that you state that you want redshirts pulled...because
WHY? ::) ;D ::) ;D As if your approval is needed?
Quote from: onepost on November 21, 2025, 02:31:08 PMBut we'll continue to trot out Caedin, Tre, Sean for extended minutes instead so it doesn't matter what I want.
Do you really expect for what you want to matter?
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on November 21, 2025, 02:44:32 PMYou really should review your posts before hitting the button and edit out comments like the bolded. It's laughable that you state that you want redshirts pulled...because WHY? ::) ;D ::) ;D As if your approval is needed?
Where did I state MY approval is needed? The staff holding on to bad players who get no playing time is a big reason we absolutely suck. Seeing what upside our younger players have can expedite their decision-making rather than having a roster where half the players should be playing at a mid or low major.
Quote from: wadesworld on November 21, 2025, 02:49:12 PMDo you really expect for what you want to matter?
We're on a unnatural carnal knowledgeing message board. I'm simply giving my thoughts, Semantics Sammy.
Quote from: onepost on November 21, 2025, 02:31:08 PMMy only point in suggesting Ian alone pulling a redshirt is that I would like to get a sense of which underclassmen belong at Marquette.
So you think Shaka should pull Ian's redshirt because of your curiosity?
I guess it's ok to say unnatural carnal knowledgeing now. That's cool, it's a useful word. Motherunnatural carnal knowledgeing is even better. K.O. would be so proud of us!
I just hope Shaka checks out this motherunnatural carnal knowledgeing thread so he knows which players onepost wants to see the rest of the unnatural carnal knowledgeing season and which ones he wants Shaka to cut.
Quote from: The Sultan on November 21, 2025, 03:21:44 PMSo you think Shaka should pull Ian's redshirt because of your curiosity?
I see Creighton pulling Hudson Greer's redshirt one game after announcing it and he came in to get 7 rebounds and 4 assists. So I guess I want to see our young players play a lot of minutes since we aren't playing for tournament hopes this year.
Quote from: MU82 on November 21, 2025, 03:23:28 PMI just hope Shaka checks out this motherunnatural carnal knowledgeing thread so he knows which players onepost wants to see the rest of the unnatural carnal knowledgeing season and which ones he wants Shaka to cut.
Shaka could learn a thing or unnatural carnal knowledgeing two from this board! But humility can be a motherunnatural carnal knowledgeer.
They changed it back! Boooooooooo
Quote from: rocky_warrior on November 21, 2025, 03:37:59 PMSuckers
Well....MU82 needed a vacation anyway, so maybe it's just as well he said naughty words.
Quote from: onepost on November 21, 2025, 03:31:20 PMShaka could learn a thing or unnatural carnal knowledgeing two from this board! But humility can be a motherunnatural carnal knowledgeer.
Lol
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on November 21, 2025, 03:40:56 PMWell....MU82 needed a vacation anyway, so maybe it's just as well he said naughty words.
What did I do?
Glad rocky restored civility.
Quote from: wadesworld on November 21, 2025, 03:42:44 PMLol
I'm pretty sure that Shaka learned all he wanted to from this board right after he was hired.
Quote from: onepost on November 21, 2025, 03:31:20 PMShaka could learn a thing or unnatural carnal knowledgeing two from this board! But humility can be a motherunnatural carnal knowledgeer.
If Shaka looked at Scoop for even one second ...
that's when I'd start saying he should be fired.
Quote from: MU82 on November 21, 2025, 03:44:09 PMWhat did I do?
Glad rocky restored civility.
Yeah
sure Mr. Potty Mouth. "What did I do?" You were a very bad boy.
Quote from: onepost on November 21, 2025, 02:31:08 PMMy only point in suggesting Ian alone pulling a redshirt is that I would like to get a sense of which underclassmen belong at Marquette. Shaka has a habit of keeping guys in the program who have no business keeping a scholarship at this level for 2 and 3 years (Ellis, Amadou, Itejere, Norman, Hamilton).
We know Nigel, Adrien, and Royce (very discouraged by his lack of development, though) are core pieces going forward. So the fact that we're gonna be playing for nothing meaningful, postseason-wise, the rest of this season I want to know if Damarius, Michael, Josh, and Ian are good enough to play at Marquette. But we'll continue to trot out Caedin, Tre, Sean for extended minutes instead so it doesn't matter what I want.
And the idea remains ludicrous. Ian is not ready. That's why he is redshirting.
All you do by pulling the redshirt is piss away a year of eligibility and you'll have no better idea of what he can be as a sophomore or upperclassmen.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on November 21, 2025, 03:45:14 PMI'm pretty sure that Shaka learned all he wanted to from this board right after he was hired.
And look at the success he had! Seems logical to me.
Quote from: onepost on November 21, 2025, 04:23:12 PMAnd look at the success he had! Seems logical to me.
Logical, huh? Says the guy who wants the redshirts pulled because he wants to know if the players are good enough to play for Marquette. ;D :o
I'm guessing Shaka gets a good understanding of where these guys are at in practice.
Although, maybe not based on comments in the preseason.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on November 21, 2025, 04:28:11 PMLogical, huh? Says the guy who wants the redshirts pulled because he wants to know if the players are good enough to play for Marquette. ;D :o
Again, what are we doing here. Yes, I'd like for the staff to more quickly assess if the players they recruited are any good at this level. As it stands, Shaka has truly only hit on one (1) player he recruited, borne out over multiple years - Chase Ross. So clearly he's having some issues identifying sustained talent at Marquette.
But hey, the model of having bad players stay in the program for years on end because of RGV is firing on all cylinders, you're right.
Quote from: onepost on November 21, 2025, 04:41:06 PMAgain, what are we doing here. Yes, I'd like for the staff to more quickly assess if the players they recruited are any good at this level. As it stands, Shaka has truly only hit on one (1) player he recruited, borne out over multiple years - Chase Ross. So clearly he's having some issues identifying sustained talent here.
But hey, the model of having bad players stay in the program because of RGV is firing on all cylinders, you're right.
Not what you said. "
I want to know..."
And you are still calling for burning redshirts to accomplish your goal.
Nice try at slipping your rewording through, but...didn't work.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on November 21, 2025, 04:50:23 PMNot what you said. "I want to know..."
And you are still calling for burning redshirts to accomplish your goal.
Nice try at slipping your rewording through, but...didn't work.
Alright Sherlock Holmes. Yes, I'd like for the STAFF to know what they're working with sooner rather than later, and threw out the hypothetical of a single redshirt being pulled to speak to a larger point. I figured that was implied given 'us losers on the message board can't do anything', but I guess you quite literally have to spell out everything syllable to this crowd.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on November 21, 2025, 03:47:15 PMYeah sure Mr. Potty Mouth. "What did I do?" You were a very bad boy.
All I did was converse with onepost in his chosen vernacular, to the extent that Scoop allowed me to do so. As I said, I'm glad rocky restored civility.
Quote from: MU82 on November 21, 2025, 04:57:37 PMAll I did was converse with onepost in his chosen vernacular, to the extent that Scoop allowed me to do so. As I said, I'm glad rocky restored civility.
If you were Catholic and I was a priest, I would forgive you of your sins in Reconciliation and for your penance, you would have to be nice to onepost for 24 hours.
Just having a little fun 82. Relax pal.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on November 21, 2025, 05:00:28 PMIf you were Catholic and I was a priest, I would forgive you of your sins in Reconciliation and for your penance, you would have to be nice to onepost for 24 hours.
Just having a little fun 82. Relax pal.
I'm having fun, too, with both you and onepost. And thank the lord almighty I'm atheist!
Quote from: onepost on November 21, 2025, 03:30:12 PMI see Creighton pulling Hudson Greer's redshirt one game after announcing it and he came in to get 7 rebounds and 4 assists. So I guess I want to see our young players play a lot of minutes since we aren't playing for tournament hopes this year.
Creighton lost a player for the year
Quote from: Newsdreams on November 21, 2025, 07:01:10 PMCreighton lost a player for the year
They pulled it before McAndrew broke his foot the next game