Let's GOOOOO!!! It's time to get back on track and subdue Dayton quickly. A win is beyond vital.
Still no Sean. Get Nigel minutes in the high 20s!
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on November 19, 2025, 06:08:53 PMStill no Sean. Get Nigel minutes in the high 20s!
Absolutely.
I remember when "pray" meant the other team needs to pray for their own sake. Tonight, I pray we win. #pray #RRL
Probably stupid of me, but I'm feeling tonight is a night where this team finds something to build on.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on November 19, 2025, 06:10:18 PMProbably stupid of me, but I'm feeling tonight is a night where this team finds something to build on.
More dimes, fewer turns, hard attacks, zip reversal passes, and endless buckets both inside and out.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on November 19, 2025, 06:10:18 PMProbably stupid of me, but I'm feeling tonight is a night where this team finds something to build on.
Same here. Have a good feeling we will have reason for optimism in 2 hours.
I expect RP to be much better today.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on November 19, 2025, 06:10:18 PMProbably stupid of me, but I'm feeling tonight is a night where this team finds something to build on.
Well, one of us will be stupid because I'm full Eeyore due to my combined decades long dislike of Dayton and lack of confidence inMU
Damn. Pick up the rock!
Aren't we lucky with the dynamic duo of refs
Once again, Ben playing off of one foot.
Good lord Caedin. He was set when you were 5 ft away from him
Extremely poor discipline/fundamentals fron Ben & Caedin.
NJ fouled but he's overdribbling. Move the basketball.
Our bigs consistently playing off of one foot is driving me absolutely nuts.
Getting out hustled so far
Caedin is just good at nothing.
Ugh
Should I make that second negroni? Am I going to need it tonight?
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When is Shaka going to learn that caedin isn't cut out for this? It's absolutely killed us all season.
WTF??? Fking focus!! Move the freaking basketball!! This mickey-mouse superfluous dribbling is moronic. MOVE THE ROCK. Absolutely horrid start.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on November 19, 2025, 06:40:57 PMCaedin is just good at nothing.
He's effective at looking the part physically
OMG, we got the quinella! Breeding AND Driscoll. Poor Roger Ayers.
Somehow we look even worse than the last game.
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Try a splash of coconut rum in it. Fantastic
Get Tre off the floor.
Or ger him the ball. :)
Did a single MU player bring their brain to the game tonight?
Why was it suggested that Chase and Tre could play some point this year?
Who needs Wojo when his TO OOB plays are with us tonight
We look atrocious Scoopers. On both ends of the floor.
Our havoc defense is great at giving high percentage shots to Dayton. Wow
I don't think Dayton has not scored on a possession that MU double teamed at half court
How did we not get that reb?
Quote from: MUEng92 on November 19, 2025, 06:47:48 PMI don't think Dayton has not scored on a possession that MU double teamed at half court
Getting completely outplayed.
Ive seen less oles in a bull fight compared to this defense.
no one can rotate. Everyone is open
Our bigs have to be the least talented group of any power conference team. It's not their fault, it's Shakas for his complete failure at assembling this team
We should have a pretty high draft pick next year!
Is dunks allowed a stat? Let's hope not.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on November 19, 2025, 06:40:57 PMCaedin is just good at nothing.
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I kinda feel bad for him cause he is gonna get so much crap this year. I can't believe Shaka actually what he had at the 5 would work
I was all ready to finally compliment Royce and he missed the layup
Wow.
Everything looks forced. No ball movement at all. Ugly basketball.
Maybe we shoot midrange? cant be worse than our layup %
Good grief RP.
This game could remove any remnant of confidence I had let for this season. Possibly before halftime.
I've seen rec teams play better defense
This is going to get ugly.
If we lose this we are likely looking at a 5-6 non-con.
This team should be playing far better than it is.
It's like they're all waiting for someone else to do something. No flow, no hooping. Just...kinda hoping for it to happen
I genuinely think we'll lose at least one game by 40+ points this season.
So far it's hard to see what they have learned from losing to I4 & MD.
Poor defense continues. MU needs to get things sorted and that starts by shortening the bench and working on half court D rather than pressing and trapping.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on November 19, 2025, 06:55:37 PMThis is going to get ugly.
If we lose this we are likely looking at a 5-6 non-con.
That is feeling exceedingly optimistic
Don't lose to DePaul by double digits
This team is rancid at the moment. Just clueless, horrible basketball.
How did parham and Owens get worse over the summer?
Our layup game is on point.
I would be annoyed if Duke was our opponent and made us look like this. It's freaking Dayton
WTF are we doing????
Something going on with this team. Very weird vibes.
Im at a loss for words
These guys suck. Hard to watch.
It doesn't feel like hyperbole that I never felt this amount of hopelessness at any point in the Wojo era
I'm not even sure exactly what I'm watching
This is the worst they have played this season. Totally out of everything they are doing
Shaka has the wojo clueless look on the sideline. I thought these days were over. This is the worst MU team I have watched since wojos first year
I am really having trouble getting my head around how badly MU is playing this year.
How can fast players look so slow on defense?
I have no idea where we are mentally out there. We look like a 300th ranked team.
Pretty awful basketball!! 2 years of this coming. WOW
This team looks vintage DePaul bad.
We don't even have defensively intensity.
Quote from: MUEng92 on November 19, 2025, 07:02:27 PMHow can fast players look so slow on defense?
Overpressuring and poor positioning and posture.
The women's team is beating up on UWM which is a bar I'm not sure this team could clear
The fact that we have a chance to be -5 is a modern miracle.
Quote from: Tha Hound on November 19, 2025, 06:42:48 PMWhen is Shaka going to learn that caedin isn't cut out for this? It's absolutely killed us all season.
shaka will go down with these guys. He ain't budging
Caedin played like 3 minutes. He is far down the list of reasons why we suck tonight.
The entire team looks scared to shoot the basketball. We've passed up like 10 in rhythm 3 looks. Just catch it and shoot with confidence, its not difficult.
Quote from: GB Warrior on November 19, 2025, 07:01:06 PMIt doesn't feel like hyperbole that I never felt this amount of hopelessness at any point in the Wojo era
The good old days for some. Not me. Wojo was just a bad coach. Shaka is having a rough year.
I'm not one to overreact.
I know it's early
I believe in Shaka.
That said . . .
This might be the worst Marquette team I've seen since I became a diehard in 1989. The team lacks talent, toughness, poise, awareness, and hustle.
How did Shaka let this happen?
Quote from: MuggsyB on November 19, 2025, 06:59:36 PMWTF are we doing????
Dayton zone, knows MU can't shoot
Shaka's defense philosophy of agressive defense. Gold coming out again to three point line, Dayton then passing inside for easy buckets. MU getting turnovers, but matching Dayton with their turnovers. Dayton turnovers resulting in layups.
Offense brutal, James and Ross just dribbling around. 13 points 11 minutes in. A lot of time left, but not good. Every player
Quote from: JTJ3 on November 19, 2025, 07:06:43 PMCaedin played like 3 minutes. He is far down the list of reasons why we suck tonight.
The entire team looks scared to shoot the basketball. We've passed up like 10 in rhythm 3 looks. Just catch it and shoot with confidence, its not difficult.
It's the entire team to be fair.
Now that was energy on defense and translating it to offense.
CHASE!!!
Quote from: AlumKCof93 on November 19, 2025, 07:07:45 PMI'm not one to overreact.
I know it's early
I believe in Shaka.
That said . . .
This might be the worst Marquette team I've seen since I became a diehard in 1989. The team lacks talent, toughness, poise, awareness, and hustle.
How did Shaka let this happen?
Pretty wild over reaction
Play like they last 2 mins more often, please.
Chase needs to take 20 shots a game
Ross seemed pissed with his teammates effort earlier. At least he's trying
Quote from: warriors141 on November 19, 2025, 07:02:13 PMShaka has the wojo clueless look on the sideline. I thought these days were over. This is the worst MU team I have watched since wojos first year
i'd go back to Mike Deane's final year.
Ross is gonna have to be Lazar Hayward or better for this team to be even decent
Quote from: Zog from Margo on November 19, 2025, 07:07:33 PMThe good old days for some. Not me. Wojo was just a bad coach. Shaka is having a rough year.
No, definitely not. But the team exhibited some energy. This is just flat.
That wasn't a foul on Letang.
Tre!!
Has Zaide taken a shot?
They really didn't look good the first 12.
But focusing on positives, really happy to see Chase Ross become the alpha. He's had a great start to the year. Just needs some support.
Ben has been solid if not spectacular. As has been said repeatedly, really need Parham and Owens to come into their own.
After reading this game thread, I assumed Marquette was down by 100.
*Checks score*
25-23 Marquette leads
Yep, checks out.
On cue. :)
BULLYING WORKS
Good grief. Threw away an easy deuce there.
Quote from: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on November 19, 2025, 07:14:48 PMAfter reading this game thread, I assumed Marquette was down by 100.
*Checks score*
25-23 Marquette leads
Yep, checks out.
Congratulations for missing the horrid display earlier in this game
Damn. That was a great look from NJ.
Ww have 13 steals. Crazy.
Quote from: MuggsyB on November 19, 2025, 07:16:24 PMDamn. That was a great look from NJ.
You are a full possession ahead of me. I was confused what you were talking about
We had 2 great minutes! Something to build on.
Nigel is playing like Sean was before he got hurt.
Hilariously out of control followed by some good and then more out of control.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on November 19, 2025, 07:19:09 PMNigel is playing like Sean was before he got hurt.
Hilariously out of control followed by some good and then more out of control.
Expected from the young man.
Why are you dribbling Ben?
Do we know how to pass off the dribble?
Truly impressive to force 16 turnovers in 17 minutes and only have a 1 point lead.
This looks like two pretty bad teams playing.
Quote from: MUEng92 on November 19, 2025, 07:17:28 PMYou are a full possession ahead of me. I was confused what you were talking about
I'm a full possession ahead of every Scooper. On every subject. :)
Quote from: CountryRoads on November 19, 2025, 07:23:12 PMThis looks like two pretty bad teams playing.
Brutal.
These turns are absolutely crazy.
The last couple years we had stretches of huge droughts, followed by big energy driven runs. This years team is no different, it just seems the energy driven runs are shorter.
Remeber those 2 minutes? Those were nice
Quote from: MuggsyB on November 19, 2025, 07:17:15 PMWw have 13 steals. Crazy.
Yes, but then MU no advantage.
Dayton turnover, Loery can't handle pass, turnover
Dayton turnover, Ross falls down, turnover
Dayton turnover, missed three
Dayton missed shot, missed three
Dayton turnover, Norman missed layup
Ben Gold turnover
Dayton foul, Lowery miss
Gold miss three, Lowery foul
Big change there, last 10 possessions, just ugly last four minutes MU could have went up big, blew it.
Both these teams are really bad
The Washington Generals vs the Washington Generals
Abysmal half for Benny.
There have been a couple times where the ball has been on the floor and no MU player tried to dive on it, and at least tie the ball up.
Team is just very limited . Not fun
Need to stop having ben help up top. Dayton keeps scoring in the paint after.
Played solidly for a while. Now back to crappy half court defense. Not going to win many games when the opponent shoots 65%. D is way too spread out.
I fall on the optimistic side of the spectrum but we absolutely stink right now. Just brutal.
Just vomited for the 8th time. This game is ugly af
ZERO helpside defense ever time Gold hedges a ball screen.
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Down 5 to a team that's committed 16 first-half turnovers. That's unpossible.
Two crap teams trying to out crap each other.
Quote from: jfp61 on November 19, 2025, 07:29:18 PMZERO helpside defense ever time Gold hedges a ball screen.
it's effin CRAZY. wtf is this??
Quote from: AlumKCof93 on November 19, 2025, 07:07:45 PMI'm not one to overreact.
I know it's early
I believe in Shaka.
That said . . .
This might be the worst Marquette team I've seen since I became a diehard in 1989. The team lacks talent, toughness, poise, awareness, and hustle.
How did Shaka let this happen?
Unfortunately a level of incompetence that we have not seen in years.
We're winning the ft% battle. Should be all good. #pray
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Quote from: Pakuni on November 19, 2025, 07:30:02 PMDown 5 to a team that's committed 16 first-half turnovers. That's unpossible.
If Dayton can hang on to the ball they are guaranteed to score, so there's that.
Quote from: Pakuni on November 19, 2025, 07:30:02 PMDown 5 to a team that's committed 16 first-half turnovers. That's unpossible.
And let that team still score 39 points. Unpossible indeed. Borderline unconceivable.
Four points, including two free throws in last six minutes. That's right, one field goal and two free throws in last six minutes. MU was up four at the time
NBA bound Gold has zero points, two rebounds and three turnovers, all resulting in points. Needs to have better half.
Quote from: Zog from Margo on November 19, 2025, 07:27:15 PMPlayed solidly for a while. Now back to crappy half court defense. Not going to win many games when the opponent shoots 65%. D is way too spread out.
Extending the D to half court and leaving an offensive guy alone under the basket doesn't seem like a great strategy.
Usually optimistic for the most part, but we are terrible. Steal or give up an easy bucket. Historically bad Fg % D. Ugh.
Gonna be honest. Not even sure I'm going to watch half #2.
There is no reason for optimism at the moment. The defense is so bad. You can't overcome this level of incompetence defensively combined with the turnovers.
We force a turnover and immediately run the other way and give it back. When we went up 5 we should have actually ran an offense.
Can someone please give Joplin a jersey?
This team unnatural carnal knowledgeing sucks. A 5-6 non-con and 6-14 Big East season wouldn't surprise me one bit at this point.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on November 19, 2025, 07:36:06 PMThere is no reason for optimism at the moment. The defense is so bad. You can't overcome this level of incompetence defensively combined with the turnovers.
We force a turnover and immediately run the other way and give it back. When we went up 5 we should have actually ran an offense.
Dayton has 16 turns and we're down 5. It's also worth noting we have 13 turns and a grand total of 3 dimes.
Chase is Chase, Norman had a nice little stretch. The rest of our guys have been frankly, awful. No words can describe my frustration with our 3 bigs.
Have to admit I'm really pissed off that they are playing at this level.
No confidence, no swagger. Totally out of sync. Second half - let's Gooo Marquette!
I'd hate to single out one guy but that was the worst half of basketball I've seen from Ben Gold in some time.
Maybe Shaka needs to switch to a zone after 10-15s of man to man pressure that creates some turnovers, because that switch out to oblivion with no help/communication is abysmal.
Also, proud of Chase for getting after his teammates and showing fire.
Shaka should've never taken him out at the 6 min mark, lead was gone in no time.
Not smart, and a mistake he wouldn't make in years past
Royce has played 7 MINUTES and hasn't shot a 3. He rarely play 7 seconds without getting up his first 3 point shot
If you can't stop transition and you can't play half court D, not much else matters. I expected this team to struggle offensively but to be better defensively. Man, was I off base.
Quote from: IL Warrior on November 19, 2025, 07:38:05 PMThis team unnatural carnal knowledgeing sucks. A 5-6 non-con and 6-14 Big East season wouldn't surprise me one bit at this point.
I hate to say it but you might be right on. So far, a gigantic disappointment.
Our front court is embarrassingly bad.
I feel bad for Chase. Dude is absolutely balling this year and has no support.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on November 19, 2025, 07:44:08 PMOur front court is embarrassingly bad.
...and our backcourt doesn't even give me a chance to be pissed at them half the time, because they are turning it over to the other team before I can even get the chance lol
how are we favored?
yikes
4 players with at least 3 steals each at halftime
Need a lot more of that from ZL.
Lauren Jbara tho
Why is this guy at FT line?
Why are Hamilton and Gold playing together?
Yeah this is probably the worst team we've had since wojo year one
What the hell was that D...
Mike Deane's teams would best this team by 20. Unbelievable how unskilled they are.
Hamilton is the worst "starter" we've had since ___?
Playing 5-4 and the best we can get is a 3 from Nigel...sad.
Wow. Not good.
Would help a lot if we could shoot. I mean score. We are good at shooting. Wow. Go Marquette!
Quote from: Johnny B on November 19, 2025, 07:50:16 PMYeah this is probably the worst team we've had since wojo year one
Woj yr 1 is on Buzz. This team is all Shaka
Quote from: CountryRoads on November 19, 2025, 07:51:32 PMWhat the hell was that D...
It is hard to comment on something that doesn't exist
We have too many players whose shooting form looks like the old guy at the rec center...except, usually the old guy at the rec centers shots inexplicably go in despite the horrible form.
I mean this has been so bad it's shocking that Owens, Clark, and Phillips aren't getting a chance
Quote from: forgetful on November 19, 2025, 07:54:26 PMWe have too many players whose shooting form looks like the old guy at the rec center...except, usually the old guy at the rec centers shots inexplicably go in despite the horrible form.
I should be hired as the shooting coach.
Quote from: DoctorV on November 19, 2025, 07:55:56 PMI mean this has been so bad it's shocking that Owens, Clark, and Phillips aren't getting a chance
This is ugly Dr.V. I'm at a loss for words.
I kind of feel like this years team leaders don't trust the rest of the team to actually be able to score or make a play, which is causing some of the leaders to press too much.
I never thought I'd say it but this team really sucks. Length, athleticism, relationships my ass. And the frustrating thing is, nothing ever seems to change on offense or on D.
This team is naive in their approach and play. Expecting the outcome to be in their favor.
This team could actually finish last in the league this year.
Looking like another long hiatus from this hellhole for me. Maybe a silver lining actually.
At least we are good at challenging.
I hope all the sophomores and juniors on this roster find a MAC school to land at next year
At least when I need a break from being pissed at how bad MU is playing, Driscoll reminds me he's always bad at his job
Quote from: MuggsyB on November 19, 2025, 07:57:05 PMThis is ugly Dr.V. I'm at a loss for words.
Beyond ugly, just kind of painful/sad to watch.
We were spoiled the last several years
Scoop is nearing critical meltdown levels.
Quote from: jfp61 on November 19, 2025, 08:00:52 PMI hope all the sophomores and juniors on this roster find a MAC school to land at next year
This roster clearly needs a complete overhaul. Like half of it.
Will it happen? I think it has to, but will it?
We are bad at setting screens for ourselves. Very successful at screening each other on defense because of the big running off the high post
Ben: Really Bad
Royce: Brutal
Caedin: Horrid
F
F
F
Zero intensity or energy.
Soft.
Poor discipline.
Inexplicable and Inexcusable.
Quote from: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on November 19, 2025, 07:14:48 PMAfter reading this game thread, I assumed Marquette was down by 100.
*Checks score*
25-23 Marquette leads
Yep, checks out.
Nevermind, Marquette back down by 100.
Stevens! Maybe that wakes us up?
Quote from: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on November 19, 2025, 08:03:51 PMNevermind, Marquette back down by 100.
All of the posts have been extremely rational. Watch the game. N
We have to get rid of Hamilton.
Spread the floor for Tre and Caedin to run the offense. For the love of god
Sit Caedin the rest of the game.
Shaka needs to worry less about his RGV marketing ploy and concentrate more on coaching and coaching defense.
The way this team has looked this year is a fireable offence especially considering he doesn't use all of his options when it comes to roster building.
He is definitely going to die by his own sword as we look like Depaul this year.
1 for 11 on last threes.
In ladt 14 minutes, MU has scored 11 points and 9 turnovers.
The truth is we should be down 30. And no, that's not hyperbole.
Royce and Clark not being able to get minutes over Hamilton right now is the most bleak part of it all.
Quote from: Big Papi on November 19, 2025, 08:07:26 PMShaka needs to worry less about his RGV marketing ploy and concentrate more on coaching and coaching defense.
The way this team has looked this year is a fireable offence especially considering he doesn't use all of his options when it comes to roster building.
He is definitely going to die by his own sword as we look like Depaul this year.
Seriously. It's going to take an embarrassingly bad season to get Shaka fired, but this team might be up to the task.
I don't really like the immediate quick pop threees unless they're wide open
The high hedge needs to be put to sleep. Not working.
Marquette was rolling two years ago - winning and playing a fun style of play. shaka raised Marquettes profile and it was a great game atmosphere.
Given that momentum, how did Shaka not hit on bigger recruits? His approach to develop talent should have made us a destination.
What happened? Is his weakness identifying talent which is compounded by his stubbornness to not take transfers?
I'm all for Shaka approach but it requires him to bring in the right players. His junior and sophomore classes question his ability to do this. Those players lack of development also raise major questions.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on November 19, 2025, 08:08:13 PMRoyce and Clark not being able to get minutes over Hamilton right now is the most bleak part of it all.
Owens not able to find a minute is euqually stunning
Quote from: Johnny B on November 19, 2025, 08:09:17 PMI don't really like the immediate quick pop threees unless they're wide open
I really don't like the threes that go 3/4 of the way down and pop out
Dayton's best player hasn't played most of the 2H btw.
Quote from: Big Papi on November 19, 2025, 08:07:26 PMShaka needs to worry less about his RGV marketing ploy and concentrate more on coaching and coaching defense.
The way this team has looked this year is a fireable offence especially considering he doesn't use all of his options when it comes to roster building.
He is definitely going to die by his own sword as we look like Depaul this year.
I feel zero connection to any of these players other than Gold and Ross. I'd be just as happy if they gutted half the team.
Always love it when Ben is out to the logo on D and his man gets a layup.
Seems like we don't have a rotation that works -
Quote from: nyg on November 19, 2025, 08:07:29 PM1 for 11 on last threes.
In ladt 14 minutes, MU has scored 11 points and 9 turnovers.
We can't shoot 3s and we can't make layups. When that is your offensive philosophy, it's not going to end well.
How can Marquette have no bigs. There best big guy is redshirting and he should be a high school Senior
hahahahahahahhahah
Ross struggles picking up the ball in transition. His feet are a step ahead of the ball.
Caiden to lead the comeback.....
Didn't expect tournament hopes to die In game 5
4-19 fron three isn't gonna cut it.
Still can't make layups.
Zaide needs to play harder. His effort is lacking far too often. He is a junior that we are counting on, and he just doesn't bring it.
So if Chase has lost his shot I'm going to bed early
Dayton is really not very good.
Let's go now!
James is going to be good. He is the only one who is fearless on the floor for Marquette
Nigel! LFG!!
Quote from: Daniel on November 19, 2025, 08:20:08 PMDayton is really not very good.
Neither is Maryland who is currently in overtime with Mount St. Mary's.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on November 19, 2025, 08:21:32 PMNeither is Maryland who is currently in overtime with Mount St. Mary's.
Wow.
If Shaka subs anyone out here I'll lose it. Have to ride with these 5 rest of the way
NJJ brings it!
More NJJ please.
Quote from: DoctorV on November 19, 2025, 08:22:22 PMIf Shaka subs anyone out here I'll lose it. Have to ride with these 5 rest of the way
It's Caedin time
Stealing this game at least gives us a scintilla of hope.
An absolutely stupid shot by Nigel
Zaide misses a lot of layups.
Who missed that chippie?
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on November 19, 2025, 08:21:32 PMNeither is Maryland who is currently in overtime with Mount St. Mary's.
At home- against a team that lost to Bucknell by 11 points.
BENNY!!!
LFG!!
Can't believe this is a one score game
Benny! Good ball movement
Quote from: Johnny B on November 19, 2025, 08:27:34 PMCan't believe this is a one score game
Man, my feed is behind everyone
Wow. Didn't expect 2 shots there.
Huge swing. Fk.
Needed that one from RP.
2 Gargantuan triples!!!
Ben's parents must come to every game from now on
Whoa. Didn't get that from ZL.
Losing successful challenges is some wojo level incompetence.
Let's go now!!! D up!!!
Wow. Freshman give and freshman take away
You can have a crap ton of turnovers or shoot terribly.
Not both
Quote from: MUEng92 on November 19, 2025, 08:36:43 PMWow. Freshman give and freshman take away
So do the juniors and seniors
Ughhhh. Just not necessary. He'll learn.
Nice play Royce (and Lowery)
Nice!
Hops. Just sort of floated up there.
Stop.
Rebound.
Get Chase the rock or a spot triple for Benny?
They can't make us sit through OT can they?
Let's GOOOOO!
Get Chase the ball.
ISO Chase here
We're not a very smart team. Wouldn't be surprised if Dayton ends up with the last shot.
ISO CHASE
That was a terrible pocket pass ftom Dayton. Very fortunate.
What the actual unnatural carnal knowledge was that
Lol
Nice execution
Wow wth
Got to love not getting a shot off even.
That is pile of crap game could not have ended any other way. By not ending
Well they're comm majors for a reason. Math is hard.
Inbound with 0:17 and can't even get a shot off? JFC this team...
Holy crap, just unreal
Unbelievable.
That cannot happen. Ever.
Someone needs to shoot. Holy.
For unnatural carnal knowledges sake I'm sick to my stomach
Great play after a TO!!!
Good lord - a perfect encapsulation of the early season - everyone is too afraid to shoot.
How do you not get a shot off. Unbelievably awful execution and coaching.
Didn't. Get. A. unnatural carnal knowledgeing. Shot. Off.
Perfect last possession to send this game to overtime lol
That's coaching?
Quote from: IL Warrior on November 19, 2025, 08:44:10 PMInbound with 0:17 and can't even get a shot off? JFC this team...
And fron 1/2 court with no pressure. Beyond human comprehension.
Lowery airball
James turnover
With game tied.
And then, don't get shot off with 18 seconds on clock. That's on the coach. No way that happens. Maybe with like 3 seconds, but no way.
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Let's try positive energy only.
We got this. We have the momentum.
I mean winning a horrible game is better than losing a horrible game but I'm leaning towards just wanting it to end
Quote from: DoctorV on November 19, 2025, 08:44:26 PMFor unnatural carnal knowledges sake I'm sick to my stomach
What the F is up with our hesitation and standing around?
Get on the damn floor Zaide
I'm extremely upset right now.
Quote from: forgetful on November 19, 2025, 08:45:44 PMLet's try positive energy only.
We got this. We have the momentum.
Whoops
Lowery is really disappointing. Leaves his man lol
With continuation in College now, I'm not sure how that was not an and 1.
That would have been an and one under the old rules
That figures.
Gold injury ends it
Hamilton sucks so bad.
Hard to win in overtime without scoring a point
Sweet Jesus.
Big shot from Nigel there.
My goodness. Ben not being available to start this OT was the dagger.
I feel bad for this whole situation right now. No one is having fun. The game of basketball is supposed to be fun.
Are we sure the Dayton guy who made the last three isn't a Creighton player?
18 can't play
I'm sure Caedin is a great kid who works hard, but not everybody is a high major college basketball player.
Sending out Caedin Hamilton in overtime is insane. You play parham at the 5 and put in Stevens
Quote from: MUEng92 on November 19, 2025, 08:49:35 PMThat would have been an and one under the old rules
To be fair I thought it was a no call. But instead of 2, we got bupkis.
Steal on defense. And 1 on the other side. Manifesting our reality now.
Quote from: The Sultan on November 19, 2025, 08:52:14 PMDayton was in a zone.
Thx. not watching...listening to Homer
I'm with that student pulling his face down.
Omg.
Quote from: Viper on November 19, 2025, 08:53:48 PMThx. not watching...listening to Homer
??? Why would you do that?
Putrid game
We had at least 4 times when an MU shooter spent too long thinking about shooting a 3, then air balling it.
Did not deserve to win. Dayton sucks, we suck worse
Maybe get a shot off with 17 sec
This is bad.
Really bad.
Cataclysmic situation.
Very Upsetting.
Caedin to start OT was a choice
Good relationships despite the loss
Ben Gold as a senior needs to learn to SHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT. passing up the ball with no time left on the clock....
At least we didn't deserve to win, then lose in OT.
Quote from: Johnny B on November 19, 2025, 08:56:50 PMMaybe get a shot off with 17 sec
That simply cannot happen.
CBI, here we come!
Quote from: The Sultan on November 19, 2025, 08:55:13 PM??? Why would you do that?
A) I'm on the road, listening on-line B) I really enjoy Homer/TSmith
C) even Homer can't positive spin this
Quote from: Jay Bee on November 19, 2025, 08:57:05 PMCaedin to start OT was a choice
We were in a zone. I would have went small:
Nigel
Ross
Stevens
Lowery
Parham
Game tied with 40 to go in regulation
Lowery airball
James turnover
Not getting shot off in 18 seconds
OT
Down two
Hamilton misses front end
Hamilton screen foul with ball
MU scores 3 points in five minutes on James three
Ballgame. Shame on Shaka for the last play in regulation. How many major teams would not get a shot off.
Just depressing after so many years to see a drastic drop off. What is this roster. at least 2 dudes on year need to transfer down a level
There are better days ahead. Lots of flashes. But good god, this offense is brutal.
That was hard to watch.
Quote from: nyg on November 19, 2025, 08:59:01 PMGame tied with 40 to go in regulation
Lowery airball
James turnover
Not getting shot off in 18 seconds
OT
Down two
Hamilton misses front end
Hamilton screen foul with ball
MU scores 3 points in five minutes on James three
Ballgame. Shame on Shaka for the last play in regulation. How many major teams would not get a shot off.
The players have to shoot the ball
I may intentionally not watch MU games in December.
Quite simply - embarrassing Marquette basketball. It looked like a team without a soul. Tentative, scared. Bad. Ugh.
Quote from: JakeBarnes on November 19, 2025, 08:59:13 PMThere are better days ahead. Lots of flashes. But good god, this offense is brutal.
The defense no better. I think I could score with Gold on me because I know how to get 25 feet of guaranteed separation.
Quote from: JakeBarnes on November 19, 2025, 08:59:13 PMThere are better days ahead. Lots of flashes. But good god, this offense is brutal.
The defense isn't any better.
Quote from: Markusquette on November 19, 2025, 09:01:11 PMThe players have to shoot the ball
We had 16 shots more than dayton tonight
Hey Chicken Littles, relax a little... We're better than Dayton because we don't take transfers. Ignore the final scores this season and focus on our moral superiority over other programs.
Why in hell was Chase on point the last 17 seconds? He is not a PG - no wonder we didn't get a shot off, despite the wondrous advice I'm certain they got from Shaka in the huddle.
Do we even finish .500 this year???
Quote from: mileskishnish72 on November 19, 2025, 09:04:30 PMWhy in hell was Chase on point the last 17 seconds? He is not a PG - no wonder we didn't get a shot off, despite the wondrous advice I'm certain they got from Shaka in the huddle.
lol
Holding for last shot doesn't generally have a "point guard" my boy
terrible execution, but it would have been criminal to NOT have chase have the ball imo
but, there were a lot of criminal things in that game
Quote from: drbchilds on November 19, 2025, 09:05:21 PMDo we even finish .500 this year???
Not if we don't improve. 3 really bad performances.
Quote from: Jay Bee on November 19, 2025, 09:07:28 PMlol
Holding for last shot doesn't generally have a "point guard" my boy
terrible execution, but it would have been criminal to NOT have chase have the ball imo
but, there were a lot of criminal things in that game
I think they were in zone and inexplicably we looked lost.
Quote from: drbchilds on November 19, 2025, 09:05:21 PMDo we even finish .500 this year???
because we are what we are, no
Not only did we not shoot with game tied at end of regulation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We also did not get a shot at least 3 other times the score was tied. Why lol
People called this BS last year. Some of you need to wake up.
Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on November 19, 2025, 09:09:01 PMNot only did we not shoot with game tied at end of regulation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We also did not get a shot 5 other times the score was tied. Why lol
That's a wild stat if true. Seems MU may need to can the meditation coach. That's some mental block crap..which would tell me the players are too in their heads.
Quote from: Markusquette on November 19, 2025, 09:01:11 PMThe players have to shoot the ball
And the coach to tell them on what to do. They must practice this everyday. We are talking 17 seconds, not three. The ball should have went up with like 4 seconds, maybe get a rebound. Inexcusable for a major college program and I cannot recall a team not getting off a shot with 17 seconds to go.
You know this was bad when Willie doesn't even bother to show up and gloat.
Quote from: nyg on November 19, 2025, 09:12:20 PMAnd the coach to tell them on what to do. They must practice this everyday. We are talking 17 seconds, not three. The ball should have went up with like 4 seconds, maybe get a rebound. Inexcusable for a major college program and I cannot recall a team not getting off a shot with 17 seconds to go.
This is an unusually bad passing team and we're wildly inconsistent shooting the ball. That's not a good combination
Oh...and then there's our defense. If Dayton didn't have 100 turns, this game would not have been competitive. We forced a bunch, but most were self-inflicted. Our h-c offense is horrible and our h-c defense is horrible. The result of these probs? A conplete dumpster 🔥
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on November 19, 2025, 09:13:04 PMYou know this was bad when Willie doesn't even bother to show up and gloat.
Willie??? What about Fieldhouse? For all the pithy "Dayton sucks" entries on this board, look at our recent record vs. them. Need to take a real look at who sucks.
Maybe recruit a kid that has a jump shot, mid range, another issue with Shaka since there is not one player on this team with a jump shot, so in his system you just jack up threes, and let's face it there bad at that! Also what kind of offense they run, to me very offensive.
Quote from: Elonsmusk on November 19, 2025, 09:11:45 PMThat's a wild stat if true. Seems MU may need to can the meditation coach. That's some mental block crap..which would tell me the players are too in their heads.
Wait.. what? We have a meditation coach?
Quote from: MuggsyB on November 19, 2025, 09:19:19 PMWait.. what? We have a meditation coach?
Yes - bob oliver. He was at wright state last year
Quote from: MuggsyB on November 19, 2025, 09:19:19 PMWait.. what? We have a meditation coach?
I'm sure we do - we got more guys in suits than guys in shorts.
Quote from: panda on November 19, 2025, 09:19:49 PMYes - bob oliver. He was at wright state last year
Fire his ass immediately
I don't think roles have been defined at all on this team other than Chase being our primary scorer.
Quote from: panda on November 19, 2025, 09:19:49 PMYes - bob oliver. He was at wright state last year
As they say in Ohio, "Wright State, wrong school."
If you're gonna be a development program, it helps to, you know, develop players
Quote from: MuggsyB on November 19, 2025, 09:17:28 PMThis is an unusually bad passing team and we're wildly inconsistent shooting the ball. That's not a good combination
Oh...and then there's our defense. If Dayton didn't have 100 turns, this game would not have been competitive. We forced a bunch, but most were self-inflicted. Our h-c offense is horrible and our h-c defense is horrible. The result of these probs? A conplete dumpster 🔥
I get that, but this discussion here is not getting a shot off with 17 seconds, not a whole game review. Again, I don't believe I have ever seen that.
Quote from: nyg on November 19, 2025, 09:31:16 PMI get that, but this discussion here is not getting a shot off with 17 seconds, not a whole game review. Again, I don't believe I have ever seen that.
I've seen it but usually they're going full-court. Regardless, it's inexcusable.
Quote from: AlumKCof93 on November 19, 2025, 08:18:33 PMZaide needs to play harder. His effort is lacking far too often. He is a junior that we are counting on, and he just doesn't bring it.
I think I scared two kids a few rows in front of me screaming, "GET ON THE FLOOR!" when the ball rolled to Zaide's feet late in the game. A UD player dove across the floor to get it and Zaide didn't even bend over. Spontaneous reaction to a shockingly lazy play.
Quote from: StillWarriors on November 19, 2025, 11:13:25 PMI think I scared two kids a few rows in front of me screaming, "GET ON THE FLOOR!" when the ball rolled to Zaide's feet late in the game. A UD player dove across the floor to get it and Zaide didn't even bend over. Spontaneous reaction to a shockingly lazy play.
I'm coming to the conclusion Zaide is just plain soft.
Quote from: StillWarriors on November 19, 2025, 11:13:25 PMI think I scared two kids a few rows in front of me screaming, "GET ON THE FLOOR!" when the ball rolled to Zaide's feet late in the game. A UD player dove across the floor to get it and Zaide didn't even bend over. Spontaneous reaction to a shockingly lazy play.
I had the exact same thought and reaction watching at home. Ball was rolling at his feet and he either was completely unaware or didn't make any effort to get it.
Quote from: StillWarriors on November 19, 2025, 11:13:25 PMI think I scared two kids a few rows in front of me screaming, "GET ON THE FLOOR!" when the ball rolled to Zaide's feet late in the game. A UD player dove across the floor to get it and Zaide didn't even bend over. Spontaneous reaction to a shockingly lazy play.
Agree there was play very early at the start of the game too where Zaide did not get on the floor when Zaide could have easily had the ball if he did.
Also there was a bad pass by Tre earlier to Zaide. Where Zaide could have had the ball but tried to run before grabbing the ball and he dropped the ball and lost it. Ugh
Marquette did fight back but you have got to get a shot at the end of regulation obviously. It would be much easier for everyone to take if Marquette at least got a shot off. Ugh again. Am just going to pretend Chase took that shot and made that shot in the lane with 2 seconds left and Marquette won goodnight.
Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on November 20, 2025, 12:24:10 AMMarquette did fight back but you have got to get a shot at the end of regulation obviously. It would be much easier for everyone to take if Marquette at least got a shot off. Ugh again. Am just going to pretend Chase took that shot and made that shot in the lane with 2 seconds left and Marquette won goodnight.
I still haven't heard from Shaka what he wanted there. His post game radio interview he merely recapped what everyone saw and that he wished Chase would have taken the open look.
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on November 19, 2025, 11:25:21 PMI'm coming to the conclusion Zaide is just plain soft.
Agree last year thought Zaide was a bad ass but he might be a super kitten
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on November 20, 2025, 06:36:27 AMI still haven't heard from Shaka what he wanted there. His post game radio interview he merely recapped what everyone saw and that he wished Chase would have taken the open look.
Yes and then Shaka said he said Nigel should have probably taken the shot after Chase passed to him. But then Nigel passed to Ben who passed to Chase if not mistaken.
Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on November 20, 2025, 12:27:52 PMYes and then Shaka said he said Nigel should have probably taken the shot after Chase passed to him. But then Nigel passed to Ben who passed to Chase if not mistaken.
Watched that play several times now and I thought Dayton's coverage was actually pretty solid. I think our best bet was for Ross to just step into that 24 footer on the wing and either just shoot it or at least get the defender to commit to him which would have left Nigel wide open in the corner.
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on November 19, 2025, 11:25:21 PMI'm coming to the conclusion Zaide is just plain soft.
Teal? So we're saying Wojo type players, but without the skill side? 😬
Quote from: CountryRoads on November 20, 2025, 12:35:17 PMWatched that play several times now and I thought Dayton's coverage was actually pretty solid. I think our best bet was for Ross to just step into that 24 footer on the wing and either just shoot it or at least get the defender to commit to him which would have left Nigel wide open in the corner.
Oh, it was great defense, no doubt, but if Chase is going to go that far, just take the shot. If they block it, whatever. If he misses, whatever. But he could also get fouled, or it goes in, or there is a put back at the buzzer.
The absolute worst thing that could happen, did happen... well outside of Chase passing to a Flyer for a run out dunk.
Well Dayton does suck, we just suck worse.
Quote from: mileskishnish72 on November 19, 2025, 09:18:40 PMWillie??? What about Fieldhouse? For all the pithy "Dayton sucks" entries on this board, look at our recent record vs. them. Need to take a real look at who sucks.
Quote from: mileskishnish72 on November 19, 2025, 09:18:40 PMWillie??? What about Fieldhouse? For all the pithy "Dayton sucks" entries on this board, look at our recent record vs. them. Need to take a real look at who sucks.
I guess when the board vociferously complained about scheduling Dayton, they knew what they were talking about.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on November 20, 2025, 01:54:59 PMI guess when the @brewcity77 vociferously complained about scheduling Dayton, he knew what he was talking about.
FIFY
Quote from: CountryRoads on November 20, 2025, 12:35:17 PMWatched that play several times now and I thought Dayton's coverage was actually pretty solid. I think our best bet was for Ross to just step into that 24 footer on the wing and either just shoot it or at least get the defender to commit to him which would have left Nigel wide open in the corner.
If you're able to rewatch that play, there was also another good option in the moment. A moment after Chase drives into the paint and stops, Zaide starts a backdoor cut that would've led to an easy layup or dunk. But unfortunately, Chase didn't see him and passed the ball the other way.
Quote from: K1 Lover on November 20, 2025, 02:14:58 PMIf you're able to rewatch that play, there was also another good option in the moment. A moment after Chase drives into the paint and stops, Zaide starts a backdoor cut that would've led to an easy layup or dunk. But unfortunately, Chase didn't see him and passed the ball the other way.
What a luxury we had with Kolek and then KJ. Both could either do it themselves or they saw the floor so well find the open man. That passing ability led to a ton of easy layups in crunch time.
Exc
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on November 19, 2025, 09:13:04 PMYou know this was bad when Willie doesn't even bother to show up and gloat.
Except I am not gloating. I have always wanted MU to succeed. And there is no reason they can't succeed. But when you look at what is happening this year, it is obvious that there are big time issues. Put the blame for that where you want.
Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on November 20, 2025, 12:27:52 PMYes and then Shaka said he said Nigel should have probably taken the shot after Chase passed to him. But then Nigel passed to Ben who passed to Chase if not mistaken.
Watching the replay, I didn't think Nigel was open enough. He's not tall, and the defender was closing in. Ben definitely needed to shoot.
Quote from: Hards Alumni on November 20, 2025, 01:02:09 PMOh, it was great defense, no doubt, but if Chase is going to go that far, just take the shot. If they block it, whatever. If he misses, whatever. But he could also get fouled, or it goes in, or there is a put back at the buzzer.
The absolute worst thing that could happen, did happen... well outside of Chase passing to a Flyer for a run out dunk.
Agree. And someone did send me a video from an interesting floor angle. It looked like Chase could have got off the shot. And like you said could have gone in, if he misses could have been tipped in or Chase could have got fouled.
But not even getting a shot hurts and almost feels to me like a forfeit even. But Go Marquette. Got to fight and play like bad asses against Central Michigan.