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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: wadesworld on November 09, 2025, 01:46:39 PM

Title: Missing Stevie
Post by: wadesworld on November 09, 2025, 01:46:39 PM
This defense STINKS out loud.
Title: Re: Missing Stevie
Post by: Johnny B on November 09, 2025, 01:50:00 PM
Missing anyone from the last 4 years
Title: Re: Missing Stevie
Post by: wadesworld on November 09, 2025, 01:56:27 PM
Layup. Lines.

(And warmup 3s).
Title: Re: Missing Stevie
Post by: tower912 on November 09, 2025, 01:59:59 PM
I miss the innate understanding of help defense and switching that comes from playing together for so many years.
Title: Re: Missing Stevie
Post by: wadesworld on November 09, 2025, 02:01:27 PM
Quote from: tower912 on Today at 01:59:59 PMI miss the innate understanding of help defense and switching that comes from playing together for so many years.

That should be one of the benefits of Shaka's retention model. All 5 starters are in their 3rd + year in the program.
Title: Re: Missing Stevie
Post by: tower912 on November 09, 2025, 02:11:48 PM
It looks like a different system.   Less switching 1-5.
Title: Re: Missing Stevie
Post by: Daniel on November 09, 2025, 02:15:41 PM
Keep in mind, this is Shaka's first team that is his 100%.  So . . . What will we see going forward.....
Title: Re: Missing Stevie
Post by: JakeBarnes on November 09, 2025, 02:24:48 PM
Quote from: tower912 on Today at 02:11:48 PMIt looks like a different system.   Less switching 1-5.

but somehow worse hedging at the key.
Title: Re: Missing Stevie
Post by: Farley36 on November 09, 2025, 02:26:11 PM
At this point we're missing Wojo.
Title: Re: Missing Stevie
Post by: wadesworld on November 09, 2025, 02:26:16 PM
Quote from: Daniel on Today at 02:15:41 PMKeep in mind, this is Shaka's first team that is his 100%.  So . . . What will we see going forward.....

I'm not worried at all about Shaka and his teams going forward. I am worried about this year's team.

The good news is the offense looks okay, even with a bunch of missed bunnies and open threes.

But this program needs to defend.
Title: Re: Missing Stevie
Post by: JakeBarnes on November 09, 2025, 02:27:21 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on Today at 02:26:16 PMI'm not worried at all about Shaka and his teams going forward. I am worried about this year's team.

The good news is the offense looks okay, even with a bunch of missed bunnies and open threes.

But this program needs to defend.

Hey now. they got like 3 stops today.
Title: Re: Missing Stevie
Post by: tower912 on November 09, 2025, 02:34:33 PM
Quote from: JakeBarnes on Today at 02:24:48 PMbut somehow worse hedging at the key.
IU did a great job of running DeVries and Wilkerson off screens. MU looked indecisive on how to defend that.  Too often, the screener's defender did not jump out at the shooter.  Too often the shooter's defender was trailing too far behind.  Then, on the rare occasion that both defenders went for the shooter, the screener rolled and there was no weak side help.

Better communication, better switching, more reps, please.
Title: Re: Missing Stevie
Post by: willie warrior on November 09, 2025, 03:01:30 PM
Quote from: Daniel on Today at 02:15:41 PMKeep in mind, this is Shaka's first team that is his 100%.  So . . . What will we see going forward.....
Hmmmm....
Title: Re: Missing Stevie
Post by: Elonsmusk on November 09, 2025, 03:26:22 PM
The refereeing today totally took MU's defense out of what it does best - heat up ballhandlers/body to body.  IU got called for plenty of tick tack fouls too - but we rely so much on physical, ball pressure defense to create turnovers - refs took that away today.
Title: Re: Missing Stevie
Post by: mileskishnish72 on November 09, 2025, 03:34:39 PM
Quote from: Elonsmusk on Today at 03:26:22 PMThe refereeing today totally took MU's defense out of what it does best - heat up ballhandlers/body to body.  IU got called for plenty of tick tack fouls too - but we rely so much on physical, ball pressure defense to create turnovers - refs took that away today.

Hard to blame the refs for that performance.
Title: Re: Missing Stevie
Post by: GB Warrior on November 09, 2025, 03:54:02 PM
Quote from: mileskishnish72 on Today at 03:34:39 PMHard to blame the refs for that performance.

No kidding. We were in the double bonus for nearly 30 minutes and couldn't do sh!t
Title: Re: Missing Stevie
Post by: tower912 on November 09, 2025, 03:55:45 PM
Quote from: GB Warrior on Today at 03:54:02 PMNo kidding. We were in the double bonus for nearly 30 minutes and couldn't do sh!t
MU shot and made a ton of free throws.  Also scored more points in the paint.  3's and TO's.
Title: Re: Missing Stevie
Post by: GB Warrior on November 09, 2025, 03:56:58 PM
Quote from: tower912 on Today at 03:55:45 PMMU shot and made a ton of free throws.  Also scored more points in the paint.  3's and TO's.

Yes that's my point. The officials had a positive impact for Marquette.

Edit: see why that was confusing. We were *shooting* the double bonus for nearly 30 mins
Title: Re: Missing Stevie
Post by: Daniel on November 09, 2025, 03:57:12 PM
Quote from: tower912 on Today at 03:55:45 PMMU shot and made a ton of free throws.  Also scored more points in the paint.  3's and TO's.
and 10 assists vs 27 for IU. 
Title: Re: Missing Stevie
Post by: Nukem2 on November 09, 2025, 04:04:05 PM
Quote from: Daniel on Today at 03:57:12 PMand 10 assists vs 27 for IU. 
The experience of all those 4, 5 and 6 year guys for IU certainly showed today.
Title: Re: Missing Stevie
Post by: MU82 on November 09, 2025, 04:22:24 PM
Quote from: Elonsmusk on Today at 03:26:22 PMThe refereeing today totally took MU's defense out of what it does best - heat up ballhandlers/body to body.  IU got called for plenty of tick tack fouls too - but we rely so much on physical, ball pressure defense to create turnovers - refs took that away today.

C'mon, man.
Title: Re: Missing Stevie
Post by: Elonsmusk on November 09, 2025, 04:38:36 PM
Quote from: MU82 on Today at 04:22:24 PMC'mon, man.

If you don't understand the way the game was called today was a big reason why we gave up 100+, I don't know what to tell you.

Doesn't matter that we shot a ton of FTs. MU's defense is predicated on heating the ball handler up and playing physically. It couldn't do that today. Neither could Indiana..I just doubt IU's defensive identity is the same as ours.
Title: Re: Missing Stevie
Post by: MU82 on November 09, 2025, 04:41:47 PM
Quote from: Elonsmusk on Today at 04:38:36 PMIf you don't understand the way the game was called today was a big reason why we gave up 100+, I don't know what to tell you.

Doesn't matter that we shot a ton of FTs. MU's defense is predicated on heating the ball handler up and playing physically. It couldn't do that today. Neither could Indiana..I just doubt IU's defensive identity is the same as ours.

C'mon, man.
Title: Re: Missing Stevie
Post by: Elonsmusk on November 09, 2025, 04:53:14 PM
Quote from: MU82 on Today at 04:41:47 PMC'mon, man.

Perfect example of my point was when MU cut the lead down to 10 or 12 in the second half - Nigel James pretty much took the ball away from IU guard in the backcourt right in front of Shaka.  Whistle. Crean thought the foul was called on the IU player as Nigel was attempting to take it the other way.  Never should have been a whistle on Nigel. 
Title: Re: Missing Stevie
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on November 09, 2025, 04:55:05 PM
Quote from: Elonsmusk on Today at 04:53:14 PMPerfect example of my point was when MU cut the lead down to 10 or 12 in the second half - Nigel James pretty much took the ball away from IU guard in the backcourt right in front of Shaka.  Whistle. Crean thought the foul was called on the IU player as Nigel was attempting to take it the other way.  Never should have been a whistle on Nigel. 


I know the exact play you are talking about. Nigel stepped out of bounds.

The officials were equally bad both ways. We lost because we stink on defense. We will get better, but we sucked.

A humbling experience that could be a fun look back if we build off of it.
Title: Re: Missing Stevie
Post by: tower912 on November 09, 2025, 04:55:47 PM
It wasn't a foul.  Nigel bounced the ball off the sideline.
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