1. Slow down, you're moving too fast. On offense.
2. Hazy Shades of Shaka's first winter, when the team struggled to figure out what a good shot was.
3. Counting deflections on the Milwaukee turnpike, all turned into transition basketball.
4. Where have you gone Stevie and Kam Jones, MU nation turns their lonely eyes to you. So much speed.
5. I am heaving, I am heaving, while the driving still remains. Going back to the learning what a good shot is, they were firing up 3's with open driving lanes.
6. Look around you all you see is sympathetic eyes. Everybody knows MU is young, planning to play fast, etc. Patience, often preached, rarely practiced.
7. Enough. I liked the second half Ben/Tre better than first half Ben/Tre. Oh, my goodness, Josh's upside. NJ and AS looked comfortable.
8. The defense is miles ahead. Everybody understands their role.
9. Defensive rebounding issues. DO had some real d rebounding issues.
10. MU pulled away when they started attacking the rim and quit shooting 3s.
11. I remain giddy about the possibilities. And I am feeling groovy.
Praying it is only a cramp for NJ.
Quote from: tower912 on November 03, 2025, 09:11:25 PM1. Slow down, you're moving too fast. On offense.
2. Hazy Shades of Shaka's first winter, when the team struggled to figure out what a good shot was.
3. Counting deflections on the Milwaukee turnpike, all turned into transition basketball.
4. Where have you gone Stevie and Kam Jones, MU nation turns their lonely eyes to you. So much speed.
5. I am heaving, I am heaving, while the driving still remains. Going back to the learning what a good shot is, they were firing up 3's with open driving lanes.
6. Look around you all you see is sympathetic eyes. Everybody knows MU is young, planning to play fast, etc. Patience, often preached, rarely practiced.
7. Enough. I liked the second half Ben/Tre better than first half Ben/Tre. Oh, my goodness, Josh's upside. NJ and AS looked comfortable.
8. The defense is miles ahead. Everybody understands their role.
9. Defensive rebounding issues. DO had some real d rebounding issues.
10. MU pulled away when they started attacking the rim and quit shooting 3s.
11. I remain giddy about the possibilities. And I am feeling groovy.
Praying it is only a cramp for NJ.
Oh no. This was scary. My first thought: "hello, darkness my old friend..."
Please God, let Nigel be ok. For his own sake. I can't tell you how bad I felt for SJ when he went down two seasons ago.
I think Dr.V made an excellent observation during the game. MU will need Parham and Owens to be solid contributors for us to reach the promised land. We have great guard depth assuming Nigel is okay. I thought Zaide and Tre were really good in the 2H. Parham and Owens need to rebound and play with confidence in space.
Quote from: GoFastAndWin on November 03, 2025, 09:16:32 PMOh no. This was scary. My first thought: "hello, darkness my old friend..."
Please God, let Nigel be ok. For his own sake. I can't tell you how bad I felt for SJ when he went down two seasons ago.
I think Paul Simon was 21 when he wrote the S of S.
Oh please don't let our rebounding be our Bridge Over Troubled Waters.
When times get tough
And boards just can't be found
Loved the overall effort. Hard to get a good feel for this team due to the fast substitutions and so many different lineups. Hoping we keep the same level of effort Wednesday. That team may be a little more of a pisser.
No one got hurt (I don't think...)
MU covered
I took the under 62.5 on Albany 8-)
Tower, I love your recaps but this must have been preprepared. If it's off the top of your head you should be a poet. Even if it was precooked I love it.
Great to see the Joplin's sitting along Stevie's bro, behind thr bench.
Great to have MUBB back.
Students showed up.
So many substitutions made it difficult to take much away from this one.
Quote from: MuggsyB on November 03, 2025, 09:20:12 PMI think Paul Simon was 21 when he wrote the S of S.
The sound of
your silence would be music to my ears.
Nigel is gonna be a good one.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on November 03, 2025, 09:38:12 PMThe sound of your silence would be music to my ears.
Paul Simon is 5'3. Prince was 5'1.
Quote from: MuggsyB on November 03, 2025, 09:43:20 PMPaul Simon is 5'3. Prince was 5'1.
Good thing they had their musical talents. Just like you, they would be totally worthless on a basketball court.
Quote from: CountryRoads on November 03, 2025, 09:27:16 PMLoved the overall effort. Hard to get a good feel for this team due to the fast substitutions and so many different lineups. Hoping we keep the same level of effort Wednesday. That team may be a little more of a pisser.
Nice post. Spot on.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on November 03, 2025, 09:46:43 PMGood thing they had their musical talents. Just like you, they would be totally worthless on a basketball court.
I could hoop Scoop. But I'm past my prime now.
🎶 It took Goose 3 days to hitchhike from Waukesha! 🎵 🎶
Quote from: MuggsyB on November 03, 2025, 09:50:08 PMI could hoop Scoop. But I'm past my prime now.
Yeah usually they raise the baskets to the full height no later than age 12
Quote from: MuggsyB on November 03, 2025, 09:19:30 PMI think Dr.V made an excellent observation during the game. MU will need Parham and Owens to be solid contributors for us to reach the promised land. We have great guard depth assuming Nigel is okay. I thought Zaide and Tre were really good in the 2H. Parham and Owens need to rebound and play with confidence in space.
Thanks.
I enjoyed the game, was a lot of fun to watch that defense and great to have Marquette basketball back.
The new guys are enjoyable to watch, they play with a lot of heart.
Can't remember the last time I watch a Marquette game where the leader in shot attempts took less than 10 shots in the game.
Tonight it was Zaide with 8.
^^For this reason I didn't really hate the offense as much as most seem to have. They shot poorly, both from the line and outside, but no one really forced the issue when it comes to chucking. They all got involved and looked for the open guy, didn't see much if any selfishness.
That said, we will hear A LOT of complaints about this years team moving too fast, and in some games, turning it over too much because of that.
Won't matter because it won't change. It's this years squads DNA.
They will move fast and continue to move fast, mistakes or not, good or bad.
Tonight they won the turnover battle 22-14, we will see against better teams, but this years squad is pesky as hell defensively.
I'd hate to be a team that plays against Marquette, except for when it comes to crashing the offensive glass to gather misses.
Nigel was more composed than SJ22 tonight but I really like both of the PGs and hope they can stay healthy. Outside of Chase it'll be the most important part of the team when it comes to maintaining health.
I also like many other guys handling the ball, and chase running point in a pinch is serviceable.
Muggsy is right on guard depth- it seems solid and sufficient. Tre can give solid spurts, as can Adrien in the depth dept.
This years ceiling, and perhaps the most important part of Marquettes immediate future, could be determined by the development of the Parham/Owens combo.
Let's not forget that at some point last season many of us thought we were looking at 2 three year starters.
Shaka knows how to motivate his talent, and their body language and buy in seemed fine tonight, so I'm confident one or both will have solid enough seasons to make this team a solid tourney team.
Oh and Ben, cmon son find a way to turn into a steady 10&7 type of cat, while getting hot from 3 in some important games, and this teams trajectory changes for the best
Chase is very good.
Nigel will start soon.
Defense is good.
Sean and Caedin might confuse me this season being on the court as often the were, and project being as starters
Quote from: DoctorV on November 03, 2025, 09:54:58 PMThanks.
I enjoyed the game, was a lot of fun to watch that defense and great to have Marquette basketball back.
The new guys are enjoyable to watch, they play with a lot of heart.
Can't remember the last time I watch a Marquette game where the leader in shot attempts took less than 10 shots in the game.
Tonight it was Zaide with 8.
^^For this reason I didn't really hate the offense as much as most seem to have. They shot poorly, both from the line and outside, but no one really forced the issue when it comes to chucking. They all got involved and looked for the open guy, didn't see much if any selfishness.
That said, we will hear A LOT of complaints about this years team moving too fast, and in some games, turning it over too much because of that.
Won't matter because it won't change. It's this years squads DNA.
They will move fast and continue to move fast, mistakes or not, good or bad.
Tonight they won the turnover battle 22-14, we will see against better teams, but this years squad is pesky as hell defensively.
I'd hate to be a team that plays against Marquette, except for when it comes to crashing the offensive glass to gather misses.
Nigel was more composed than SJ22 tonight but I really like both of the PGs and hope they can stay healthy. Outside of Chase it'll be the most important part of the team when it comes to maintaining health.
I also like many other guys handling the ball, and chase running point in a pinch is serviceable.
Muggsy is right on guard depth- it seems solid and sufficient. Tre can give solid spurts, as can Adrien in the depth dept.
This years ceiling, and perhaps the most important part of Marquettes immediate future, could be determined by the development of the Parham/Owens combo.
Let's not forget that at some point last season many of us thought we were looking at 2 three year starters.
Shaka knows how to motivate his talent, and their body language and buy in seemed fine tonight, so I'm confident one or both will have solid enough seasons to make this team a solid tourney team.
Oh and Ben, cmon son find a way to turn into a steady 10&7 type of cat, while getting hot from 3 in some important games, and this teams trajectory changes for the best
Quote from: DoctorV on November 03, 2025, 09:54:58 PMThanks.
I enjoyed the game, was a lot of fun to watch that defense and great to have Marquette basketball back.
The new guys are enjoyable to watch, they play with a lot of heart.
Can't remember the last time I watch a Marquette game where the leader in shot attempts took less than 10 shots in the game.
Tonight it was Zaide with 8.
^^For this reason I didn't really hate the offense as much as most seem to have. They shot poorly, both from the line and outside, but no one really forced the issue when it comes to chucking. They all got involved and looked for the open guy, didn't see much if any selfishness.
That said, we will hear A LOT of complaints about this years team moving too fast, and in some games, turning it over too much because of that.
Won't matter because it won't change. It's this years squads DNA.
They will move fast and continue to move fast, mistakes or not, good or bad.
Tonight they won the turnover battle 22-14, we will see against better teams, but this years squad is pesky as hell defensively.
I'd hate to be a team that plays against Marquette, except for when it comes to crashing the offensive glass to gather misses.
Nigel was more composed than SJ22 tonight but I really like both of the PGs and hope they can stay healthy. Outside of Chase it'll be the most important part of the team when it comes to maintaining health.
I also like many other guys handling the ball, and chase running point in a pinch is serviceable.
Muggsy is right on guard depth- it seems solid and sufficient. Tre can give solid spurts, as can Adrien in the depth dept.
This years ceiling, and perhaps the most important part of Marquettes immediate future, could be determined by the development of the Parham/Owens combo.
Let's not forget that at some point last season many of us thought we were looking at 2 three year starters.
Shaka knows how to motivate his talent, and their body language and buy in seemed fine tonight, so I'm confident one or both will have solid enough seasons to make this team a solid tourney team.
Oh and Ben, cmon son find a way to turn into a steady 10&7 type of cat, while getting hot from 3 in some important games, and this teams trajectory changes for the best
Any concerns about the brutal 3pt shooting?
Would have been nice to not face a 1-3-1 zone the entire game considering we'll never see that again this year.
I get it from Albany, considering the few times they went man we got an easy layup each time. I was encouraged by the offense considering we probably have nothing more than one or two sets to run against a 1-3-1. It just would have been nice to get more warmup reps running our real offense.
Quote from: jfp61 on November 03, 2025, 09:58:32 PMChase is very good.
Nigel will start soon.
Defense is good.
Sean and Caedin might confuse me this season being on the court as often the were, and project being as starters
Who is nigel starting over. He wont take seans place and doubt shaka wants to go supersmall starting a 5"10 and a 6 foot guy in the backcourt
Shaka wou;dnt give the nod to a frosh over a vet like sean imo, unless he was wayyyy better
Quote from: jfp61 on November 03, 2025, 09:58:32 PMChase is very good.
Nigel will start soon.
Defense is good.
Sean and Caedin might confuse me this season being on the court as often the were, and project being as starters
Zaide was second in minutes ;D
Defense was superb.
Offensive rebounding was excellent.
Defensive rebounding was putrid.
Loved how much we got to the line. Didn't love what we did when we got there.
Turnovers were fine in context. First game, Sean's first game in years, Albany plays a funky defense, last year Albany was very good at forcing turnovers, it's part of their DNA.
Shooting was putrid. Last year, I would have said that it will come around. After watching Joplin and Kam struggle all season, I'm a bit gun shy. But statistically, it should come around.
Spread was 21, we won by 27 with a terrible shooting game. Definitely more positives than negatives in this one.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on November 03, 2025, 09:46:43 PMGood thing they had their musical talents. Just like you, they would be totally worthless on a basketball court.
Not so fast my friend
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ff8LEx9Mw54
Quote from: MuggsyB on November 03, 2025, 10:02:08 PMAny concerns about the brutal 3pt shooting?
Nope. Unfortunately I've kind of become accustomed to it.
This years team has two drive and distribute or finish first PGs, so I doubt it becomes settle for 3 happy.
When they see good defenses that collapse the lane it'll become a problem, but both SJ22 and NJ0 are more adept at breaking down bigger and more organized defenses than their predecessors.
We had better passing PGs and finishing PGs in the past, but I said this before Sean's injury- his biggest strength was breaking down organized good defenses. They just attack off the dribble and are shifty enough to break a defense down. They will turn it over plenty, but they will also succeed plenty amongst the trees.
This years team will be more effective at one on one attacking, so hopefully we see more of a version of last years StJ offensively- relentless attacking.
StJ settled for plenty of mid range shot, and Marquette will settle for plenty of 3s, but hopefully they start to go down a bit more.
I highly doubt Nigel starts over Sean soon- Shaka has said that SJ22 spends the most amount of time being a student of the game than anyone on the team and he will reward that.
I suppose I could see a smaller lineup with Sean and Nigel together in the backcourt and Benny moving to the 5, Chase at the 4, but I don't think Shaka wants to do that.
So more than likely, given health, Nigel is one of the first off the bench all season
Simon & Garfunkel recorded Sounds of Silence initially as an acoustic song and it bombed. Without telling them, their producer, Tom Wilson, remixed it with a rock backing band and released the new mix. According to Simon he was in Europe when he got a telephone call from Wilson : "Are you sitting down, you've got the number one single in the United States".
Those were the days when having the #1 song was a really big deal.
Liked what I saw from NJ and AS.
Phillips shot looks smooth, it'll fall. But he's behind the others on defense.
Need a lot more from Royce. Aggressiveness is good, but too many dumb plays.
Nice to see Ben playing tough. Not sure playing at warp speed will help his shooting though.
Tre looks improved. Zaide looks real solid.
Chase looks like he has the mentality to lead the team. I'm not convinced he's skillful enough. Not sure where this team goes end of shot clock, but lots of time to figure it out.
Overall I thought it was a promising start. There will be some big clunkers but the ceiling is high. Speed, length, and athleticism increase is notable.
Everything in context - Albany is quite bad. Also, as someone else said above, there was so much substituting and so many combinations out there, it undoubtedly hurt continuity on offense.
The biggest positive IMHO is that James only had cramps and that he's OK. He actually looked great in his 2-3 minute stint after returning to the court.
Ross was the best player on the court by far. Got loose with the ball a couple of times, but otherwise was in control and got to where he wanted. His shot looked good, and he was awesome on D. He's gonna have a big season.
Our defense was superb throughout. Loved causing havoc with the 1-2-2 press. Owens is a tough player to pass around or over. James, Jones, Ross, Lowery, Norman ... they were all active and effective.
Sean showed no traces of knee problems, still looked quick as hell. But watching him drive into all the trees with nowhere to go and nowhere to pass is painful.
The whole team looked more comfortable offensively in the first 10 minutes of the second half. Ross, Owens and Lowery really settled in and made some nice plays. Norman had a nice stretch, including an impressive drive; I'd take what he contributed tonight in every game.
Gotta shoot better than that from 3 - hopefully we can, because those 3s are gonna be open all season. We also have to convert after we get steals. There were a few too many poor decisions and missed shots when we should have had layups. Would be nice to make more of our FTs, too. An airball, Ben? Really? (Gold played well on D, though.)
I was really surprised that Parham played so little in the first half - I thought maybe he was hurt or something. He played a lot more in the second half and was OK.
James is definitely going to be a stud. Stevens certainly looked like he belonged out there. Some decent work by Clark, as well - an intriguing prospect.
Some of the offensive rebounds we allowed were fluky - off airballs, deflections, etc. But still far too many given up. A familiar refrain, of course.
We're used to Kolek and Kam controlling the pace and keeping the offense organized. The combination of new PGs and the pace Shaka wants them to play will be a huge change. Here's hoping we can be fast but not rushed and careless.
All in all, a good first game to shake off the rust and any jitters. Covered the spread, and still a ton of room for improvement.
We Are Marquette!
Quote from: mileskishnish72 on November 03, 2025, 09:33:41 PMTower, I love your recaps but this must have been preprepared. If it's off the top of your head you should be a poet. Even if it was precooked I love it.
I started it early in the second half. It all came from 'slow down, you're moving too fast.'
A switch was flipped at halftime. The first half was spent hoisting 3s. The second half was spent getting to the rim. The 3 pt shots weren't bad shots, per se, but they young team had too much energy and adrenaline.
Quote from: BM1090 on November 03, 2025, 11:10:52 PMLiked what I saw from NJ and AS.
Phillips shot looks smooth, it'll fall. But he's behind the others on defense.
Need a lot more from Royce. Aggressiveness is good, but too many dumb plays.
Nice to see Ben playing tough. Not sure playing at warp speed will help his shooting though.
Tre looks improved. Zaide looks real solid.
Chase looks like he has the mentality to lead the team. I'm not convinced he's skillful enough. Not sure where this team goes end of shot clock, but lots of time to figure it out.
Overall I thought it was a promising start. There will be some big clunkers but the ceiling is high. Speed, length, and athleticism increase is notable.
Solid points.
What bothered me.
Damarius at the 4. There were at least 3 sequences where Ben helped and contested the shot. Damarius was the 4, along with Chase, and both found themselves under the basket when the ball came off the rim. Not in position for the rebound. All resulted in baskets, two in fouls on Ben contesting the shot after the offensive board.
Sean trying so hard to be a facilitator that he passed on a lay up to throw a wraparound d bounce pass at Clark's shins. Clark ain't catching that pass.
Settling 4 3s early. They got out of it.
Sean and Nigel are still short and both had get in the paint with nowhere to go moments. To be expected.
Rebounding.
The rotations and substitutions were a Jackson Pollock painting. Which is OK for opening night.
By the way, the answer to the high pick and roll appears to be double and recover, at least on opening night.
Quote from: Mutaman on November 03, 2025, 10:39:56 PMNot so fast my friend
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ff8LEx9Mw54
Yes. Prince actually could hoop. This is completely based on a true story and Scoop Snoop as usual was Whistling Dixie.
...it took them 4 tries
To rebound the basketball...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jm4rJs-TNzo
11 minutes for your ride to work. Need better rebounding. Caedin earned the starting role by how he practiced and worked over the 6 weeks of practice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFO41SYiX0U
Players talk
Quote from: tower912 on Today at 05:46:39 AMSean and Nigel are still short and both had get in the paint with nowhere to go moments. To be expected.
Hopefully, as both settle into their roles and become more accustomed to playing at this level (in Sean's case, re-accustomed), it happens less and less.
There have been a lot of fine, shorter guards who didn't repeatedly get in trouble like that. They learned from experience and adapted.
It only happened a couple of times to Nigel last night. Sean, it seems to be in his DNA.
Quote from: DoctorV on November 03, 2025, 10:42:41 PMNope. Unfortunately I've kind of become accustomed to it.
This years team has two drive and distribute or finish first PGs, so I doubt it becomes settle for 3 happy.
When they see good defenses that collapse the lane it'll become a problem, but both SJ22 and NJ0 are more adept at breaking down bigger and more organized defenses than their predecessors.
We had better passing PGs and finishing PGs in the past, but I said this before Sean's injury- his biggest strength was breaking down organized good defenses. They just attack off the dribble and are shifty enough to break a defense down. They will turn it over plenty, but they will also succeed plenty amongst the trees.
This years team will be more effective at one on one attacking, so hopefully we see more of a version of last years StJ offensively- relentless attacking.
StJ settled for plenty of mid range shot, and Marquette will settle for plenty of 3s, but hopefully they start to go down a bit more.
I highly doubt Nigel starts over Sean soon- Shaka has said that SJ22 spends the most amount of time being a student of the game than anyone on the team and he will reward that.
I suppose I could see a smaller lineup with Sean and Nigel together in the backcourt and Benny moving to the 5, Chase at the 4, but I don't think Shaka wants to do that.
So more than likely, given health, Nigel is one of the first off the bench all season
Ty. I wasn't particularly thrilled with Parham's defense yesterday. I don't think it can be emphasized enough how important Owens and Parham are to this team. Unless we want to go ultra diminutive and play 4 guards a lot.
Zaide, Tre, and Chase are all capable of rebounding the ball. My gut feeling is Zaide is ready to take that next step and be on the floor a lot. I was most pleased with his passing off the bounce. This is a skill some of our guards have struggled with and it's vitally important. As for JTY, I think he'll be better. It was his first game in a long time. The key to this team will be our front court and whether they can consistently produce. My initial thought is they have to rebound/defend and diversify their offensive games. Simply launching spot 3's isn't enough.