With Marquette getting gapped, let's discuss how to fill that gap.
Early season action:
St. John's, leaders of the gap, up 20 on Quinnipiac at half
G'TownX closing the gap, up 8 at half against Morgan State.
UConn up early against New Haven
X down early to Marist
Hall playing St. Peter's
Later:
Nova travels to BYU
DePaul hosts bitter rival Chicago State
St. John's whips Q, 108-74
G'Town wins by 17 over Morgan State
UConn wins by 24 over New Haven
Providence up 17 on Holy Cross
X up 9 on Marist with 7 minutes left
Seton Hall up 19 on St. Peter's
DePaul up 25 at half on Chicago State
Things getting tight in Cincinnati. X up 4 with 4 and a half left
Quote from: Uncle Rico on November 03, 2025, 08:14:32 PMThings getting tight in Cincinnati. X up 4 with 4 and a half left
Marist has cut it to 1 and going to the line with 3:21 left
Providence was up 20 on Holy Cross but saw it dwindle to 6 with about a minute left. They should hold on as they're up 8 with the ball and :23 left
X holds onto to get Junior a win over Marist in his debut.
Nova/BYU on TNT.
Dybantsa with a good start.
BYU is scary.
Give Nova credit for hanging around. They're hitting triples and have controlled the pace.
Lindsay has been really good for Nova.
By my count, BE went 5-4 against the spread. Not great for the conference computer numbers.
Quote from: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on November 03, 2025, 11:06:33 PMBy my count, BE went 5-4 against the spread. Not great for the conference computer numbers.
I mean it's certainly not bad.
Quote from: BM1090 on November 03, 2025, 11:18:33 PMI mean it's certainly not bad.
Underperforming against cupcakes is how the BE loses tourney bids.
The conference as a whole finished at 16.5 points below the expected cumulative spread.
Already digging a whole on opening night is less than ideal.
Quote from: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on November 03, 2025, 11:26:44 PMUnderperforming against cupcakes is how the BE loses tourney bids.
The conference as a whole finished at 16.5 points below the expected cumulative spread.
Already digging a whole on opening night is less than ideal.
If we consistently go 5-4 against the spread throughout non conference our metrics will be better than predicted, assuming the "losses" aren't by a huge margin.
If you can consistently do better than 5-4 against the spread...you should quit your day job.
Quote from: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on November 03, 2025, 11:26:44 PMUnderperforming against cupcakes is how the BE loses tourney bids.
Yep. As well as losing more competitive OOC games in which the BE team was favored. I'll never understand some scoopers laughing when our BE brethren lose a game. It's not rocket science-we want them to win all their OOC games by comfortable margins.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on November 04, 2025, 07:17:42 AMYep. As well as losing more competitive OOC games in which the BE team was favored. I'll never understand some scoopers laughing when our BE brethren lose a game. It's not rocket science-we want them to win all their OOC games by comfortable margins.
You are of course right, but its not hard to understand the other side. It's rivalry. A healthy amount of "we hate those guys" is good for the conference.
I choose to look at it as a win win. Either they improve the conference metrics or I get to laugh at them. Wins all around.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on November 04, 2025, 07:17:42 AMYep. As well as losing more competitive OOC games in which the BE team was favored. I'll never understand some scoopers laughing when our BE brethren lose a game. It's not rocket science-we want them to win all their OOC games by comfortable margins.
When I was younger and didn't care for numbers it was an idea that if they're a fellow bubble team they might eventually mentally "break" and be less of an issue in conference. Doesnt make much sense and now of course would want every team undefeated and covering in non con
Quote from: Galway Eagle on November 04, 2025, 09:09:33 AMWhen I was younger and didn't care for numbers it was an idea that if they're a fellow bubble team they might eventually mentally "break" and be less of an issue in conference. Doesnt make much sense and now of course would want every team undefeated and covering in non con
They can all suck it
Quote from: Galway Eagle on November 04, 2025, 09:09:33 AMWhen I was younger and didn't care for numbers it was an idea that if they're a fellow bubble team they might eventually mentally "break" and be less of an issue in conference. Doesnt make much sense and now of course would want every team undefeated and covering in non con
Oh...and one more thing. Our BE brethren doing well in OOC "helps Marquette's cause" ;D
Quote from: Galway Eagle on November 04, 2025, 09:09:33 AMWhen I was younger and didn't care for numbers it was an idea that if they're a fellow bubble team they might eventually mentally "break" and be less of an issue in conference. Doesnt make much sense and now of course would want every team undefeated and covering in non con
I am getting too old for numbers so I try to keep it simple: just score more points than the other guy. Since I don't gamble that is the only number that counts.
https://nypost.com/2025/11/03/sports/st-johns-looks-the-part-of-national-championship-contender-in-rout-of-quinnipiac/
Quote from: muwarrior69 on November 04, 2025, 01:46:40 PMhttps://nypost.com/2025/11/03/sports/st-johns-looks-the-part-of-national-championship-contender-in-rout-of-quinnipiac/
Well if they can destroy Quinnipiac, then let's not even play the rest of the season and hand them the championship right now.
The Johnnies are going to play some good teams this OOC, let's see how they hold up.
Quote from: Badgerhater on November 04, 2025, 02:42:06 PMWell if they can destroy Quinnipiac, then let's not even play the rest of the season and hand them the championship right now.
The Johnnies are going to play some good teams this OOC, let's see how they hold up.
Quinnipiac did a poll, and St. John's is the favorite to win the NC.
Quote from: WhiteTrash on November 04, 2025, 02:58:34 PMQuinnipiac did a poll, and St. John's is the favorite to win the NC.
They always over sample St. John alums.
I think BE should be disbanded unless we get St. Thomas
X is the only Big East game tonight. Up 28-26 with 7 minutes left in the first half, leading Le Moyne
X looks all kinds of horrible
Sean Miller got out while the gettin' was good. Left behind a dumpster fire.
Quote from: MU82 on November 06, 2025, 09:20:46 PMSean Miller got out while the gettin' was good. Left behind a dumpster fire.
I just looked back at my 2024 Xavier preview, written before the start of Sean's last season at X. Here's how I ended the article:
"I also have serious reservations about the long-term roster construction. They have four starters who will not be able to return and four more bench players in the same situation. Is Sean Miller planning to be back in 2025-26? This roster certainly doesn't look like it. With Louisville, Kentucky, Ohio State, and Michigan all filling this past offseason I'm not sure where he might be looking to go, but this is not the roster one builds if they are focused on anything more than the next 6 months."https://www.crackedsidewalks.com/2024/10/xavier-preview-2024-25.html
Quote from: brewcity77 on November 06, 2025, 09:49:42 PMI just looked back at my 2024 Xavier preview, written before the start of Sean's last season at X. Here's how I ended the article:
"I also have serious reservations about the long-term roster construction. They have four starters who will not be able to return and four more bench players in the same situation. Is Sean Miller planning to be back in 2025-26? This roster certainly doesn't look like it. With Louisville, Kentucky, Ohio State, and Michigan all filling this past offseason I'm not sure where he might be looking to go, but this is not the roster one builds if they are focused on anything more than the next 6 months."
https://www.crackedsidewalks.com/2024/10/xavier-preview-2024-25.html
Your crystal ball was very clear in 2024.
Did I read correctly that the entire 2025-26 team are first year Xavier players?
Pitinio Jr has a complete rebuild on his hands.
Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on November 07, 2025, 08:23:06 AMYour crystal ball was very clear in 2024.
Did I read correctly that the entire 2025-26 team are first year Xavier players?
Pitinio Jr has a complete rebuild on his hands.
Yeah, it's rough this year. With how Najai Hines looked in his debut, X might displace Seton Hall at the bottom of the league.
Georgetown up 46-29 on Buzz & Maryland on FS1.
Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on November 07, 2025, 06:39:42 PMGeorgetown up 46-29 on Buzz & Maryland on FS1.
On the road, too.
28.8 eFG% for the BuzzTurtles. Their third-worst in the KenPom era. Yuck.
DePaul lead by 13 at halftime is now trailing to Stonehill. 53-51. 6:10 left.
That's a very nice win for Georgetown. They look much improved on defense.
Buzz's bunch was a mess. Loose with the ball and took a lot of bad shots. Missed plenty of open shots, too.
DePaul and Seton Hall both managed to avoid upsets. I guess that's good, even though neither came close to covering.
Quote from: MU82 on November 07, 2025, 10:23:02 PMThat's a very nice win for Georgetown. They look much improved on defense.
Buzz's bunch was a mess. Loose with the ball and took a lot of bad shots. Missed plenty of open shots, too.
DePaul and Seton Hall both managed to avoid upsets. I guess that's good, even though neither came close to covering.
DePaul lead 30-5 at the beginning of that game
Quote from: MU82 on November 07, 2025, 10:23:02 PMThat's a very nice win for Georgetown. They look much improved on defense.
Buzz's bunch was a mess. Loose with the ball and took a lot of bad shots. Missed plenty of open shots, too.
DePaul and Seton Hall both managed to avoid upsets. I guess that's good, even though neither came close to covering.
That could be a tough opening game for us to start BE play.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on November 08, 2025, 10:16:22 AMThat could be a tough opening game for us to start BE play.
Hopefully, Cooley will start banging strange before then
Alabama up by 6 over the Johnnies despite having 10 fouls called against them. Out of bounds play called in favor of the Johnnies but overturned on review. The FS1 team all Johnnies. Even UW does not get that kind of home cooking.
...this with around 7 minutes to play.
53-44 Alabama at the half. 16 fouls Alabama, 6 fouls Johnnies.
High level game.....2 really good teams
Bama's backcourt rocks. So fast, all can shoot.
St. John's better adapt or they'll die
SJU down one with 7ish to go.
I usually root for our BE brethren vs. outsiders but can't get myself to root for SJU in the face of blatant homerism.
Just put this game on. What a fun game.
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on November 08, 2025, 01:03:56 PMJust put this game on. What a fun game.
Both teams look impressive. I tried but was unable to pull for St Johns.
Pitino embarrasses the Big East. G-A-P exposed
Quote from: mileskishnish72 on November 08, 2025, 12:56:25 PMI usually root for our BE brethren vs. outsiders but can't get myself to root for SJU in the face of blatant homerism.
The FS1 team was so St. John's. I can't believe the guy said they should return to the jump ball after the wedgy went to Bama due to the possession arrow. The Zebras gave the Johnnies what 30 points. I'll make a prediction that the Johnnies will win all their home games if the game is called like today's game. Really impressed that Bama won.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on November 08, 2025, 01:25:23 PMThe FS1 team was so St. John's. I can't believe the guy said they should return to the jump ball after the wedgy went to Bama due to the possession arrow. The Zebras gave the Johnnies what 30 points. I'll make a prediction that the Johnnies will win all their home games if the game is called like today's game. Really impressed that Bama won.
Early tourney bounce if they get used to these calls but don't get them in March.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on November 08, 2025, 01:25:23 PMThe FS1 team was so St. John's. I can't believe the guy said they should return to the jump ball after the wedgy went to Bama due to the possession arrow. The Zebras gave the Johnnies what 30 points. I'll make a prediction that the Johnnies will win all their home games if the game is called like today's game. Really impressed that Bama won.
🙄🙄🙄
Quote from: Badgerhater on November 08, 2025, 01:32:51 PMEarly tourney bounce if they get used to these calls but don't get them in March.
Just like last year.
Thanks providence...
Quote from: CountryRoads on November 08, 2025, 01:16:08 PMBoth teams look impressive. I tried but was unable to pull for St Johns.
How could anybody with sleazeball Pitino running the show? Remember Porcinis? Slick Rick the Table Top Tryster
Quote from: willie warrior on November 09, 2025, 06:23:45 AMHow could anybody with sleazeball Pitino running the show? Remember Porcinis? Slick Rick the Table Top Tryster
What happened at Porcini's?
Xavier only a 2.5 point favorite at home vs. Santa Clara.
The league looks to be in the same situation as it's been the past few years, with a disappointing non-con. The difference is we're part of the disappointment early on.
Still think it's UConn, then a bit of a mess in the middle with St. John's, Creighton, Georgetown, Marquette, and Providence all in that next tier. The league needs to be collectively better to get more than 3-4 bids, though.
Xavier down 39-20 vs. Santa Clara at the half. Xavier looks like crap. 12 transfers plus a freshman.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on November 10, 2025, 08:34:06 PMXavier down 39-20 vs. Santa Clara at the half. Xavier looks like crap. 12 transfers plus a freshman.
Those cute Pitino tweets after the game where he grades various things will become a meme.
Whoa. X is getting thumped.
Quote from: CountryRoads on November 10, 2025, 08:54:49 PMThose cute Pitino tweets after the game where he grades various things will become a meme.
Now 56-35. I thought that with 12 transfers, Xavier would be leading 56-35 rather than the reverse. Go figure.
X cut it to 27 with 2 mins to go.
Quote from: MuggsyB on November 10, 2025, 09:39:46 PMX cut it to 27 with 2 mins to go.
Muggsy who's screwing the Big East more, X or Marquette?
Quote from: DoctorV on November 10, 2025, 10:04:23 PMMuggsy who's screwing the Big East more, X or Marquette?
X
I think we're gonna be okay Dr.V. :)
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on November 10, 2025, 09:05:43 PMNow 56-35. I thought that with 12 transfers, Xavier would be leading 56-35 rather than the reverse. Go figure.
strange that a school that starts both kids recruited by the school as freshmen and a couple of transfers could win a game. I would have thought thatthe Villanova transfer who went 2-3 from three last night would have destroyed the team chemistry.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on November 11, 2025, 08:59:00 AMstrange that a school that starts both kids recruited by the school as freshmen and a couple of transfers could win a game. I would have thought that the Villanova transfer who went 2-3 from three last night would have destroyed the team chemistry.
Not to mention the G League guy...
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on November 11, 2025, 08:59:00 AMstrange that a school that starts both kids recruited by the school as freshmen and a couple of transfers could win a game. I would have thought thatthe Villanova transfer who went 2-3 from three last night would have destroyed the team chemistry.
Yeah, I wish Shaka could win even one game here at Marquette. Never will until he brings in a transfer.
Quote from: wadesworld on November 11, 2025, 10:48:50 AMYeah, I wish Shaka could win even one game here at Marquette. Never will until he brings in a transfer.
Only second fastest to 100 wins in MU history. Screw that. Only interested in the fastest.
DePaul is getting lambasted in the 1st half by Buffalo.
Down 30-10 with 6 minutes left in the half.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on November 11, 2025, 07:34:38 PMDePaul is getting lambasted in the 1st half by Buffalo.
Down 30-10 with 6 minutes left in the half.
33-12????? Wow, just Wow.
Quote from: MuggsyB on November 11, 2025, 07:38:59 PM33-12????? Wow, just Wow.
All sorts of bad for the conference. I'm not surprised because it is DePaul but I actually thought they could be a Top 7 team in the league with their returning core. Just ugly.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on November 11, 2025, 07:44:59 PMAll sorts of bad for the conference. I'm not surprised because it is DePaul but I actually thought they could be a Top 7 team in the league with their returning core. Just ugly.
Daniel Freitag starts for the Bulls
Quote from: Uncle Rico on November 11, 2025, 07:48:37 PMDaniel Freitag starts for the Bulls
So does Angelo Brizzi who was once on Villanova.
Now playing for his 4th team in 4 years.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on November 11, 2025, 07:44:59 PMAll sorts of bad for the conference. I'm not surprised because it is DePaul but I actually thought they could be a Top 7 team in the league with their returning core. Just ugly.
Enright said Sayonara for a reason.
Quote from: MuggsyB on November 11, 2025, 07:51:23 PMEnright said Sayonara for a reason.
He wanted to make good use of the Japanese lessons his Mommy paid for?
Quote from: MU82 on November 11, 2025, 07:57:05 PMHe wanted to make good use of the Japanese lessons his Mommy paid for?
I dunno. It was just the word that came into my head.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on November 11, 2025, 07:34:38 PMDePaul is getting lambasted in the 1st half by Buffalo.
Down 30-10 with 6 minutes left in the half.
Miss blue, blue, blue!!!
DePaul cuts it to 4 with 8 left
Gonzaga is obliterating Creighton. Ouch.
Quote from: MuggsyB on November 11, 2025, 10:51:00 PMGonzaga is obliterating Creighton. Ouch.
McDermott should probably pivot to a retention strategy after such an embarrassing loss.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on November 11, 2025, 11:27:49 PMMcDermott should probably pivot to a retention strategy after such an embarrassing loss.
Pretty obvious McDermott's approach in the modern landscape of college basketball doesn't work.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on November 12, 2025, 06:06:52 AMPretty obvious McDermott's approach in the modern landscape of college basketball doesn't work.
Even Doug left.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on November 12, 2025, 07:42:50 AMDidn't even get his degree
I heard he's the manager at a McDonald's in Omaha, so he's done well for himself despite not getting his degree.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on November 12, 2025, 07:47:04 AMI heard he's the manager at a McDonald's in Omaha, so he's done well for himself despite not getting his degree.
Not good enough to work at Mazos, though.
G-A—P
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on November 11, 2025, 08:33:09 PMDePaul cuts it to 4 with 8 left
Former badger Freitag looked good. Guessing he'll boomerang back to a high major.
Quote from: CountryRoads on November 12, 2025, 08:09:39 AMFormer badger Freitag looked good. Guessing he'll boomerang back to a high major.
Remember when he committed to UW-Madison and Evan Flood and Jeff Potrykus treated it as if they got the number one kid in the class
Quote from: Uncle Rico on November 12, 2025, 08:52:39 AMRemember when he committed to UW-Madison and Evan Flood and Jeff Potrykus treated it as if they got the number one kid in the class
Devin Harris 2.0 they said. Whoops.
Quote from: MuggsyB on November 11, 2025, 10:51:00 PMGonzaga is obliterating Creighton. Ouch.
Never thought Creighton was much better than us.
Quote from: geps on November 12, 2025, 03:18:46 PMNever thought Creighton was much better than us.
Yup. I looked at their roster and said the same. Maybe they'll prove otherwise when the teams meet ... or maybe our heroes will kick their butts.
Georgetown leads Binghamton by 5 at the break.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on November 12, 2025, 06:29:26 PMGeorgetown leads Binghamton by 5 at the break.
#Binghamton2BigEast
1-2 start for our tommies isn't ideal
Quote from: Shaka Shart on November 12, 2025, 08:20:10 PM1-2 start for our tommies isn't ideal
Hurting the Big East's cause. While also fitting right in in the BE.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on November 12, 2025, 06:29:26 PMGeorgetown leads Binghamton by 5 at the break.
Hoyas fans are getting the full Cooley experience, taking down a rival unexpectedly, then barely squeaking by against a sub-300 low-major.
Quote from: MuggsyB on November 10, 2025, 09:02:15 PMWhoa. X is getting thumped.
Going back to this, I forgot that Santa Clara's coach is Herb Sendek. And then I thought, "I would have thought it would have retired by now."
But he's only 62! He was 30 years old when he got his first head job at Miami (OH). He even pre-dated Wally Szczerbiak there!
Quote from: brewcity77 on November 12, 2025, 10:30:47 PMHoyas fans are getting the full Cooley experience, taking down a rival unexpectedly, then barely squeaking by against a sub-300 low-major.
It's only a matter of time before folks start to routinely state that his teams always get better as the season goes along ... only to have someone actually look up the facts to discover that's not really true.
Quote from: brewcity77 on November 12, 2025, 10:30:47 PMHoyas fans are getting the full Cooley experience, taking down a rival unexpectedly, then barely squeaking by against a sub-300 low-major.
Uh... who did they barely squeak by?
Georgetown led Binghamton by 23 with 3:08 to play and went to the bench. Won by 13.
X down 20 to the Hawkeyes.
I thought the portal was supposed to prevent that.
Quote from: tower912 on November 14, 2025, 08:51:30 PMI thought the portal was supposed to prevent that.
Plus the Pitino factor
X is not marking the spot early in the season.
DePaul missed a long three at the buzzer. Lost 81-79.
Side note: Going to enjoy TNT Sports coverage this year.
Providence, DePaul and Xavier screwed us.
Quote from: DFW HOYA on November 14, 2025, 04:42:46 PMUh... who did they barely squeak by?
Georgetown led Binghamton by 23 with 3:08 to play and went to the bench. Won by 13.
LOL it was close into the second half, you made a late run to stretch it to 23, then gave a run right back to the (
checks notes) #348 team in the country. Forgive me, clearly a resounding win.
Quote from: brewcity77 on November 15, 2025, 06:16:05 AMLOL it was close into the second half, you made a late run to stretch it to 23, then gave a run right back to the (checks notes[/]) #348 team in the country. Forgive me, clearly a resounding win.
Every win is good for Cooley and Company and the Big East Cause
Ive just never understood the Kim English hype. The media all loves him. Im sure he's a nice guy and he recruits well, but his teams are a mess to watch on the court and he's never really been close to the tournament as a coach. Hilarious they were picked in front of us preseason.
Quote from: JTJ3 on November 15, 2025, 07:25:49 AMIve just never understood the Kim English hype. The media all loves him. Im sure he's a nice guy and he recruits well, but his teams are a mess to watch on the court and he's never really been close to the tournament as a coach. Hilarious they were picked in front of us preseason.
I really thought his roster was too talented to fail. I didn't think they'd be this bad, but certainly at-large level good. They don't look close to that. Unless he really turns it around, this should be his last year in Providence.
Quote from: DFW HOYA on November 14, 2025, 04:42:46 PMUh... who did they barely squeak by?
Georgetown led Binghamton by 23 with 3:08 to play and went to the bench. Won by 13.
^^^ bro sounds very pleased with the performance
Quote from: Jay Bee on November 15, 2025, 09:42:23 AM^^^ bro sounds very pleased with the performance
I'd cut him some slack. Just imagine being a Georgetown fan through those absolutely
awful seasons (0-20 BE one season :o). Any fan who didn't give up on GT deserves to enjoy wins, regardless of the opponent.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on November 15, 2025, 09:57:57 AMI'd cut him some slack. Just imagine being a Georgetown fan through those absolutely awful seasons (0-20 BE one season :o). Any fan who didn't give up on GT deserves to enjoy wins, regardless of the opponent.
Agree completely, but they were covering the kenpom number for all of 27 seconds, just being honest that they didn't exactly run them out of the gym.
Big East 1-9 vs top 150 kenpom. Not top 50, 150. Really bad.
Quote from: geps on November 15, 2025, 10:35:49 AMBig East 1-9 vs top 150 kenpom. Not top 50, 150. Really bad.
League isn't terrible but it's clearly behind the ACC, SEC, Big 16 and Big 18. It's UConn or bust come March
I think it's pretty clearly going to be a mediocre year for the conference behind the top 2. Seton hall is a lot better so at least there's no huge drags, but also a lot of teams below tournament quality.
Georgetown, Nova and MU can swing that. If those three (or two) are solid tournament teams it'll mean a lot for the strength of the league.
Georgetown does look much improved.
Hopefully G-Town can get this one.
Georgetown gets the W.
Quote from: MuggsyB on November 15, 2025, 01:11:52 PMGeorgetown gets the W.
A pair of home wins Saturday: the 79-74 win over Clemson, followed by Georgetown football (6-5) shutting out Fordham 14-0 on campus. The season finale is next Saturday at Fenway Park vs. Holy Cross, with Villanova coming on board for Patriot League football next season. Onward and upward.
UCONN has let BYU hang around.
Incredible that this is a 2pt game.
UCONN must be looking to get anywhere else at this point...
Quote from: 1SE on November 16, 2025, 03:14:23 PMUCONN must be looking to get anywhere else at this point...
Why? They left the Big East and had their worst stretch since Jim Calhoun was hired. Re-joined the league and won two titles.
Where are they going? The ACC? That's worked out well for their former Big East brethren. The Big XII to travel to Utah and Colorado and Arizona?
If they go, it'll be to chase football dollars, not because the Big East basketball teams are down
Yeah, because ridiculous travel has stopped all the other P3 teams...
Another season or two like this and the BE next media deal will be for pesos on telemundo MAS! One of the big boys will be glad to bring the huskies in from the cold.
Quote from: 1SE on November 16, 2025, 03:43:03 PMYeah, because ridiculous travel has stopped all the other P3 teams...
Another season or two like this and the BE next media deal will be for pesos on telemundo MAS! One of the big boys will be glad to bring the huskies in from the cold.
UConn has been wanting to get into the ACC and the Big 12 for some time. This isn't new.
Quote from: 1SE on November 16, 2025, 03:43:03 PMYeah, because ridiculous travel has stopped all the other P3 teams...
Another season or two like this and the BE next media deal will be for pesos on telemundo MAS! One of the big boys will be glad to bring the huskies in from the cold.
Quote from: The Sultan on November 16, 2025, 03:48:32 PMUConn has been wanting to get into the ACC and the Big 12 for some time. This isn't new.
I
may have this wrong, but ...
Didn't Yormark try to persuade the B12 presidents to consider bringing in UCONN for bball until their media partner indicated there would be no increase in money? And leave UCONN to develop their FB program in a mid-major conference?
Agree that they would be happy to join the ACC, even with its somewhat questionable future. They are in the BE only because it is their best option for the time being. I fully expect them to leave, and do not think they care one bit about taking away the accessible road games from their fans-PC, SJ, Nova, SH.
Quote from: 1SE on November 16, 2025, 03:43:03 PMYeah, because ridiculous travel has stopped all the other P3 teams...
Another season or two like this and the BE next media deal will be for pesos on telemundo MAS! One of the big boys will be glad to bring the huskies in from the cold.
The Big East TV deal will not be for pesos on Telemundo. That's idiotic talk. They have a 6-year deal through 2031 but yes, because November 2025 is bad, it'll be pesos in 2032 for a league with schools in major markets.
The ACC isn't long for the world as is. If UConn wants to join the Big XII to play football in Tempe, god bless them.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on November 16, 2025, 04:10:53 PMI may have this wrong, but ...
Didn't Yormark try to persuade the B12 presidents to consider bringing in UCONN for bball until their media partner indicated there would be no increase in money? And leave UCONN to develop their FB program in a mid-major conference?
Agree that they would be happy to join the ACC, even with its somewhat questionable future. They are in the BE only because it is their best option for the time being. I fully expect them to leave, and do not think they care one bit about taking away the accessible road games from their fans-PC, SJ, Nova, SH.
Yormark wanted UConn and Gonzaga. The presidents did not.
Quote from: 1SE on November 16, 2025, 03:43:03 PMYeah, because ridiculous travel has stopped all the other P3 teams...
Another season or two like this and the BE next media deal will be for pesos on telemundo MAS! One of the big boys will be glad to bring the huskies in from the cold.
Pesos are going to be >>> than US$$ soon...
Quote from: Newsdreams on November 16, 2025, 07:15:53 PMPesos are going to be >>> than US$$ soon...
A good point.
Quote from: 1SE on November 16, 2025, 03:43:03 PMYeah, because ridiculous travel has stopped all the other P3 teams...
Another season or two like this and the BE next media deal will be for pesos on telemundo MAS! One of the big boys will be glad to bring the huskies in from the cold.
Time to start a poll.
Quote from: BM1090 on November 15, 2025, 12:17:15 PMI think it's pretty clearly going to be a mediocre year for the conference behind the top 2. Seton hall is a lot better so at least there's no huge drags, but also a lot of teams below tournament quality.
Georgetown, Nova and MU can swing that. If those three (or two) are solid tournament teams it'll mean a lot for the strength of the league.
Georgetown does look much improved.
Xavier says, "Hold my beer."
Quote from: StillWarriors on November 17, 2025, 08:51:10 AMXavier says, "Hold my beer."
Yeah, X might be 2022/2023 Georgetown level bad.
Providence leads New Hampshire by 3 with 1:26 left in the first half.
As 31 point favorites!
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on November 18, 2025, 06:44:00 PMProvidence leads New Hampshire by 3 with 1:26 left in the first half.
As 31 point favorites!
First half loss, bad for their metrics
https://x.com/JacobPadilla_/status/1988342909846905155?t=Uhla0V01U4PWs6zUgr02sA&s=19
https://x.com/ByJonWalker/status/1991163339091726766?t=pcwaSV_OA0aBB0ooTFiZbw&s=19
A redshirt that lasted about a week!
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on November 19, 2025, 09:39:06 AMhttps://x.com/JacobPadilla_/status/1988342909846905155?t=Uhla0V01U4PWs6zUgr02sA&s=19
https://x.com/ByJonWalker/status/1991163339091726766?t=pcwaSV_OA0aBB0ooTFiZbw&s=19
A redshirt that lasted about a week!
Shaka could learn something
Unleash the Sheek!
Bring in Ian!
Quote from: DoctorV on November 19, 2025, 09:41:01 AMShaka could learn something
Unleash the Sheek!
Bring in Ian!
Agree. The 12-man rotation isn't quite enough.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on November 19, 2025, 09:39:06 AMhttps://x.com/JacobPadilla_/status/1988342909846905155?t=Uhla0V01U4PWs6zUgr02sA&s=19
https://x.com/ByJonWalker/status/1991163339091726766?t=pcwaSV_OA0aBB0ooTFiZbw&s=19
A redshirt that lasted about a week!
someone threatened to enter the Portal...
Barnburner tonight, UA-UCONN. Both top 5
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on November 19, 2025, 09:39:06 AMhttps://x.com/JacobPadilla_/status/1988342909846905155?t=Uhla0V01U4PWs6zUgr02sA&s=19
https://x.com/ByJonWalker/status/1991163339091726766?t=pcwaSV_OA0aBB0ooTFiZbw&s=19
A redshirt that lasted about a week!
Good reminder that there is no such thing as an official redshirt decision.
Quote from: MU82 on November 19, 2025, 10:07:14 AMAgree. The 12-man rotation isn't quite enough.
I mean...apparently not...
Jackson McAndrew out for year for Creighton.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on November 21, 2025, 04:27:33 PMJackson McAndrew out for year for Creighton.
This answers why the redshirt was taken off the freshman kid Greer
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on November 21, 2025, 04:29:52 PMThis answers why the redshirt was taken off the freshman kid
Very likely.
The Big East is horrible.
X lost to Georgia.
Quote from: MuggsyB on November 21, 2025, 10:07:20 PMX lost to Georgia.
Georgia doesn't make a basket in over 3 minutes. Hits the go ahead three with 8 seconds left.
G
Quote from: MuggsyB on November 21, 2025, 10:07:20 PMX lost to Georgia.
Good comeback by X, clutch shot by UGA. X isn't as bad as some here have said.
Butler with a nice win against South Carolina. Ajayi with another double double and the Maryland transfer, Kaiser, who missed last season injured, with a really nice showing.
Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on November 21, 2025, 10:09:33 PMGeorgia doesn't make a basket in over 3 minutes. Hits the go ahead three with 8 seconds left.
So, they didn't need 17 seconds to make the winning basket?
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on November 21, 2025, 10:09:47 PMG
Good comeback by X, clutch shot by UGA. X isn't as bad as some here have said.
Butler with a nice win against South Carolina. Ajayi with another double double and the Maryland transfer, Kaiser, who missed last season injured, with a really nice showing.
Do we know how good/bad Georgia and South Carolina are?
Quote from: MuggsyB on November 21, 2025, 10:23:16 PMDo we know how good/bad Georgia and South Carolina are?
No. Find out and report back to us.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on November 21, 2025, 10:09:47 PMG
Good comeback by X, clutch shot by UGA. X isn't as bad as some here have said wasn't as bad yesterday as they've been the first couple weeks.
Butler with a nice win against South Carolina. Ajayi with another double double and the Maryland transfer, Kaiser, who missed last season injured, with a really nice showing.
FIFY
X has been exactly as bad as people here have said. Even with yesterday's performance, they have played like the 137th best team in the country so far. Barely squeaked by Marist and sub-300 Le Moyne, got decimated at home by Santa Clara in a game that wasn't nearly as close as the 87-68 loss indicated.
I'd wait for more results before saying they aren't as bad as people have said, because while they weren't that bad
yesterday the preponderance of evidence is they are that bad.
Quote from: brewcity77 on November 22, 2025, 07:23:13 AMFIFY
X has been exactly as bad as people here have said. Even with yesterday's performance, they have played like the 137th best team in the country so far. Barely squeaked by Marist and sub-300 Le Moyne, got decimated at home by Santa Clara in a game that wasn't nearly as close as the 87-68 loss indicated.
I'd wait for more results before saying they aren't as bad as people have said, because while they weren't that bad yesterday the preponderance of evidence is they are that bad.
I just don't think they're Georgetown/DePaul levels of bad, especially as the roster comes together. I think they could get to 5 conference wins.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on November 22, 2025, 09:34:36 AMI just don't think they're Georgetown/DePaul levels of bad, especially as the roster comes together. I think they could get to 5 conference wins.
Georgetown is much better this year.
Quote from: MuggsyB on November 22, 2025, 09:40:34 AMGeorgetown is much better this year.
Would be foolish to think Cooley wasn't going to get them to a decent level. I'm sure Providence fans are seething as it's kind of happening right in their face.
Quote from: MuggsyB on November 22, 2025, 09:40:34 AMGeorgetown is much better this year.
I have to assume he meant Ewing Georgetown and Stubblefield DePaul.
I don't know how good UVA is in year one of the Ryan Odom ers, but this was a nice win for Butler today. Must be Bizjack's hair
https://x.com/John_Fanta/status/1992705868484550829?t=WWrap9YkH0dsrDBIv8In4g&s=19
X is about to take out West Virginia. 16 triples.
Quote from: MuggsyB on November 23, 2025, 05:10:12 PMX is about to take out West Virginia. 16 triples.
Jr. must've taken in transfers this offseason.
Quote from: MuggsyB on November 23, 2025, 05:10:12 PMX is about to take out West Virginia. 16 triples.
Pretty nice night for the BE.
Hopefully Marquette can stop screwing it
Quote from: DoctorV on November 23, 2025, 07:43:10 PMPretty nice night for the BE.
Hopefully Marquette can stop screwing it
MU? You mean Shaka, right?
Seton Hall looks great against NC State so far.
Quote from: MuggsyB on November 23, 2025, 05:10:12 PMX is about to take out West Virginia. 16 triples.
16-25 from three for the game. Wow!
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on November 23, 2025, 03:55:50 PMI don't know how good UVA is in year one of the Ryan Odom ers, but this was a nice win for Butler today. Must be Bizjack's hair
https://x.com/John_Fanta/status/1992705868484550829?t=WWrap9YkH0dsrDBIv8In4g&s=19
Bizjack and Ajayi (transfer from Gonzaga)are playing very well so far this season. Butler is actually looking pretty solid so far.
I guess the good news is that if we improve and if Butler, Nova, Georgetown, and PC are all better than expected, then there a lot more quality wins available in the BE than we thought
Quote from: BM1090 on November 24, 2025, 02:28:28 PMI guess the good news is that if we improve and if Butler, Nova, Georgetown, and PC are all better than expected, then there a lot more quality wins available in the BE than we thought
Maybe add SHU too...
Quote from: rocky_warrior on November 24, 2025, 02:42:08 PMMaybe add SHU too...
Seton Hall is going to beat us at least once. They look good.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on November 24, 2025, 02:44:23 PMSeton Hall is going to beat us at least once. They look good.
I'm worried.
Wow. The Hall score is a positive so far.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on November 24, 2025, 02:42:08 PMMaybe add SHU too...
Pretty good effort from a bunch of random mostly low major transfers. They look pretty connected and playing with high energy.
Creighton lost like dogs
Quote from: wadesworld on November 24, 2025, 03:07:38 PMI'm worried.
It is just college basketball and very unimportant in the grand scheme of life!
Quote from: Uncle Rico on November 24, 2025, 03:14:38 PMCreighton lost like dogs
At least Greg is trying by bringing in some high level transfers.
WE ARE... the trap game. #muMbb
Quote from: wadesworld on November 24, 2025, 03:07:38 PMI'm worried.
I just crapped in my pants thinking about this game.
https://x.com/ESPNInsights/status/1993077514852249732?t=vvZn9MMbTOJiwzskVDTA2w&s=19
StJ to 3-2. Fun game.
Quote from: MuggsyB on November 24, 2025, 03:13:44 PMWow. The Hall score is a positive so far.
Depends on your perspective.
It's kind of frustrating that everyone else is picking up wins against Power 5 teams while MU struggles with CMU and loses home games to some pretty mediocre teams.
St. John's lost like dogs.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on November 24, 2025, 05:58:56 PMSt. John's lost like dogs.
Quote from: wisblue on November 24, 2025, 05:57:34 PMDepends on your perspective.
It's kind of frustrating that everyone else is picking up wins against Power 5 teams while MU struggles with CMU and loses home games to some pretty mediocre teams.
We have to get more opportunities to beat good teams to have any chance of a NCAA tournament birth.
Quote from: MuggsyB on November 24, 2025, 06:49:29 PMWe have to get more opportunities to beat good teams to have any chance of a NCAA tournament birth.
Since our coach is not a woman of child-bearing age, we have absolutely no chance at giving birth at the NCAA tourney. A berth would be nice though.
TJO didn't foul up 3.
Quote from: MU82 on November 24, 2025, 07:26:31 PMTJO didn't foul up 3.
When it's over, it's over
but...
My guess is that Pitino was upset with himself post-game for not challenging that out-of-bounds call in the first half. Pretty sure the call in favor of ISU would have been reversed. The 'ole coulda/shoulda/woulda scenarios come into play, but never, ever change the final score.
Quote from: MuggsyB on November 24, 2025, 06:49:29 PMWe have to get more opportunities to beat good teams to have any chance of a NCAA tournament birth.
Not a chance, 9 months for that
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on November 24, 2025, 07:37:14 PMWhen it's over, it's over but...
My guess is that Pitino was upset with himself post-game for not challenging that out-of-bounds call in the first half. Pretty sure the call in favor of ISU would have been reversed. The 'ole coulda/shoulda/woulda scenarios come into play, but never, ever change the final score.
Sure, but that has nothing to do with TJO not fouling up 3. He was willing to give an open 3 to Zuby rather than send StJ to the line.
Quote from: MU82 on November 24, 2025, 09:29:33 PMSure, but that has nothing to do with TJO not fouling up 3. He was willing to give an open 3 to Zuby rather than send StJ to the line.
Of course it had nothing to do with TJO not fouling up 3. I just wanted to use your post to piggyback mine onto it. ;D
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on November 24, 2025, 09:32:24 PMOf course it had nothing to do with TJO not fouling up 3. I just wanted to use your post to piggyback mine onto it. ;D
Ah. Nick Graves had 12 points for Creighton against Baylor.
Quote from: Newsdreams on November 24, 2025, 07:59:50 PMNot a chance, 9 months for that
To be fair, we really don't know what Shaka and the team were up to back in June.
Otz looking to go 2-0 against the Big Least. Wardle taking on an undefeated UC-San Diego team. Mick Cronin gets Cal. Chris Beard takes on Iowa. Will Wade looks to bounce back against Boise State.
Huge day for us.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on November 25, 2025, 07:14:46 AMOtz looking to go 2-0 against the Big Least. Wardle taking on an undefeated UC-San Diego team. Mick Cronin gets Cal. Chris Beard takes on Iowa. Will Wade looks to bounce back against Boise State.
Huge day for us.
Working on offer to Otz?
Quote from: Newsdreams on November 25, 2025, 07:17:33 AMWorking on offer to Otz?
I think all we would need to do is upgrade the weight room.
Quote from: Newsdreams on November 25, 2025, 07:17:33 AMWorking on offer to Otz?
He was always very good at organizing softball teams when he was still Milwaukee based
Quote from: Uncle Rico on November 24, 2025, 03:14:38 PMCreighton lost like dogs
The freshman kid Greer looked pretty damn good, especially for someone who was supposed to redshirt.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on November 25, 2025, 11:40:56 AMThe freshman kid Greer looked pretty damn good, especially for someone who was supposed to redshirt.
Lost like a freshman dog
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on November 25, 2025, 11:40:56 AMThe freshman kid Greer looked pretty damn good, especially for someone who was supposed to redshirt.
That would explain Craighton's decisive victory over No. 1 Baylor.
Seriously, according to the Omaha paper, Greer got significant playing time yesterday because Creighton's big-name transfer, Owen Freeman, "struggled."
Creighton kind of getting smacked by ISU who is without Lipsey.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on November 25, 2025, 01:37:13 PMCreighton kind of getting smacked by ISU who is without Lipsey.
Like dogs
So Greg getting two players from a bad B1G team in the transfer portal didn't guarantee the gap was going to widen and Greg was at least trying to win, unlike Shaka? Huh.
Quote from: MU82 on November 25, 2025, 11:57:17 AMThat would explain Craighton's decisive victory over No. 1 Baylor.
Seriously, according to the Omaha paper, Greer got significant playing time yesterday because Creighton's big-name transfer, Owen Freeman, "struggled."
Big Ten freshman of the year at Iowa. You'd take him on MU in a heartbeat.
Quote from: MU82 on November 25, 2025, 11:57:17 AMThat would explain Craighton's decisive victory over No. 1 Baylor.
Seriously, according to the Omaha paper, Greer got significant playing time yesterday because Creighton's big-name transfer, Owen Freeman, "struggled."
Freeman is averaging 9.4 points and 4.8 boards while playing about 16 minutes per game, with an eFG% of 71.9.
MU could use those kinds of struggles in the post.
Quote from: Viper on November 25, 2025, 02:25:01 PMBig Ten freshman of the year at Iowa. You'd take him on MU in a heartbeat.
Freeman visited here in 2021, so there was some chatter around whether or not we could land him when he hit the portal. Most scoffed at the idea due to his defensive deficiencies. We still have a ways to go on that end anyways, so would have liked to have him.
Quote from: Viper on November 25, 2025, 02:25:01 PMBig Ten freshman of the year at Iowa. You'd take him on MU in a heartbeat.
Uh...just take a look how he has done against high major competition so far this season. Big yikes.
Creighton got beat like dogs.
Quote from: Pakuni on November 25, 2025, 02:36:15 PMFreeman is averaging 9.4 points and 4.8 boards while playing about 16 minutes per game, with an eFG% of 71.9.
MU could use those kinds of struggles in the post.
In three games against high majors, he has played 15 mpg, averaging 4.0 pts and 4.0 boards on 60% shooting.
Quote from: The Sultan on November 25, 2025, 03:03:12 PMIn three games against high majors, he has played 15 mpg, averaging 4.0 pts and 4.0 boards on 60% shooting.
He averaged 12.5/6.9 with a .639 eFG% in 29 Big 10 games the previous two seasons. Not too worried that he can't handle Big East play.
Are we debating whether MU could use Owen Freeman this year?
I'm not the one who said Freeman was struggling - it was the Omaha newspaper. Don't shoot the messenger.
Statistically, it looks like Freeman has been about as productive as Gold - minus Ben's defense. It also looks like Freeman's team has been about as successful as Gold's team, so I'm not sure Creighton should be held up as some paragon of operational perfection here.
That said, sure, if Shaka had wanted to open the bag to Freeman as a transfer, I'd have welcomed him to the team. I'm not surprised it didn't happen, though.
And the idea that Miletic and/or Sheek should burn his redshirt because a Creighton player did, as Billy suggested, is just silliness.
Quote from: Pakuni on November 25, 2025, 03:17:38 PMHe averaged 12.5/6.9 with a .639 eFG% in 29 Big 10 games the previous two seasons. Not too worried that he can't handle Big East play.
Are we debating whether MU could use Owen Freeman this year?
Not debating anything other than I wouldn't take him at Marquette "in a heartbeat." He is a nice player, but not someone I would break my NIL back over.
Quote from: MU82 on November 25, 2025, 03:24:30 PMI'm not the one who said Freeman was struggling - it was the Omaha newspaper. Don't shoot the messenger.
No shots were fired in your direction, 82.
Quote from: MU82 on November 25, 2025, 03:24:30 PMI'm not the one who said Freeman was struggling - it was the Omaha newspaper. Don't shoot the messenger.
Statistically, it looks like Freeman has been about as productive as Gold - minus Ben's defense. It also looks like Freeman's team has been about as successful as Gold's team, so I'm not sure Creighton should be held up as some paragon of operational perfection here.
That said, sure, if Shaka had wanted to open the bag to Freeman as a transfer, I'd have welcomed him to the team. I'm not surprised it didn't happen, though.
And the idea that Miletic and/or Sheek should burn his redshirt because a Creighton player did, as Billy suggested, is just silliness.
I have not suggested either, especially Sheek, burning his redshirt. In fact, I said I would be opposed to that based on the fact that he should still be in HS. I doubt the Creighton kid, Greer, would have been playing if McAndrew hadn't gotten injured.
As for Freeman, he had knee surgery during the summer, missing all of summer practices, and wasn't cleared to play until sometime in mid-October (he was unable to play in their scrimmage against ISU) so I'm not surprised he's struggling right now.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on November 25, 2025, 03:54:22 PMI have not suggested either, especially Sheek, burning his redshirt. In fact, I said I would be opposed to that based on the fact that he should still be in HS. I doubt the Creighton kid, Greer, would have been playing if McAndrew hadn't gotten injured.
As for Freeman, he had knee surgery during the summer, missing all of summer practices, and wasn't cleared to play until sometime in mid-October (he was unable to play in their scrimmage against ISU) so I'm not surprised he's struggling right now.
Sorry that I apparently misrepresented your stance on our redshirts.
Hopefully for Creighton, Freeman isn't limited all season by his previous injuries. He was a good offensive player for Iowa. It looks like Creighton desperately needs at least that from him this season, because they're hurting in NC play just about as badly as we are.
Creighton's nonconference losses have come to KenPom #3, #8 and #20, with the first on the road and the others on a neutral court. None of those are likely to kill them on Selection Sunday.
MU's losses are to KenPom #24, #63 and #69 (not nice), with the latter two at home.
Quote from: Pakuni on November 25, 2025, 04:36:58 PMCreighton's nonconference losses have come to KenPom #3, #8 and #20, with the first on the road and the others on a neutral court. None of those are likely to kill them on Selection Sunday.
MU's losses are to KenPom #24, #63 and #69 (not nice), with the latter two at home.
Counterpoint:
27-point loss, 7-point loss and 18-point loss. Maybe, they aren't that good either.
Still early, but it's already looking like a 1 1/2-horse race in the Big East. We'll see soon enough how far back in the pack Creighton, Marquette and the rest are.
Not sure how anyone could watch today's beatdown by ISU - playing without its best player - and say Creighton looks like it will contend for anything. Especially if Freeman isn't what they expected him to be. They didn't belong in the same arena as Gonzaga, either. But again, it's early. Maybe Freeman will turn out to be a stud and Creighton will challenge UConn and St. John's.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on November 25, 2025, 04:40:46 PMCounterpoint:
27-point loss, 7-point loss and 18-point loss. Maybe, they aren't that good either.
Maybe. Just pointing out the disparity in the level of competition.
Quote from: Pakuni on November 25, 2025, 04:47:33 PMMaybe. Just pointing out the disparity in the level of competition.
I don't think they're very good this year. They have to beat Nebraska and Kansas State now and play well in conference. They'll be an underdog against Nebraska.
Getting blown out by good teams doesn't help them in the selection process.
Them and Marquette both are in bad places right now with regards to dancing.
Bad half for Wardle, hopefully we see good adjustments.
Quote from: MU82 on November 25, 2025, 04:23:36 PMSorry that I apparently misrepresented your stance on our redshirts.
Hopefully for Creighton, Freeman isn't limited all season by his previous injuries. He was a good offensive player for Iowa. It looks like Creighton desperately needs at least that from him this season, because they're hurting in NC play just about as badly as we are.
Sheek is different since he wasn't supposed to come in until next year and should still be in high school. My complaint regarding Clark was that Shaka did not bring in someone who could have been a missing piece last year, and brought in a project that he knew could not contribute right after bringing in another project at the five who was not ready to contribute either, both when we only had 13 scholarships and uncertainty at the PG position too.
Quote from: Newsdreams on November 25, 2025, 05:00:00 PMBad half for Wardle, hopefully we see good adjustments.
Wardle's already got one foot out the door pointing toward Milwaukee.
Baylor has outrebounded St. John's by a dozen, including 20 offensive boards.
St. John's is shooting 57%, Baylor 34%.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on November 25, 2025, 05:04:26 PMSheek is different since he wasn't supposed to come in until next year and should still be in high school. My complaint regarding Clark was that Shaka did not bring in someone who could have been a missing piece last year, and brought in a project that he knew could not contribute right after bringing in another project at the five who was not ready to contribute either, both when we only had 13 scholarships and uncertainty at the PG position too.
Amadou obviously was a bad miss, and jury's still out on Hamilton. In a vacuum, I like the flier on Clark because 7-footers who are decent athletes are pretty hard to find. But I do get what you're saying, Billy. Sometimes things get lost in the translation in these Scoop back-and-forths.
Quote from: The Sultan on November 25, 2025, 02:58:38 PMUh...just take a look how he has done against high major competition so far this season. Big yikes.
he played high major competition last year and was damn good as named Big freshman of the year. Maybe there's an adjustment period this year? Maybe, as it turns out, he should have remained at Iowa? Regardless, I'd roll the dice with him over a stiff like Hamilton.
Quote from: Viper on November 25, 2025, 06:24:49 PMhe played high major competition last year and was damn good as named Big freshman of the year. Maybe there's an adjustment period this year? Maybe, as it turns out, he should have remained at Iowa? Regardless, I'd roll the dice with him over a stiff like Hamilton.
He was not Big Ten freshman of the year last year.
Quote from: Pakuni on November 25, 2025, 03:32:38 PMNo shots were fired in your direction, 82.
but you get 82's tone, right? Mocking the 'transfer', as if RGV is the way. Let's all admit, RGV is bs. I don't recall who posted it, but someone referred to Shaka as Helen Keller. Maybe a bit harsh, but not necessarily inaccurate. You want to win big...deep runs in March...you know, a Buzz-like E8, or flounder along barely beating Central Michigan? Bring in players by any means!!! Recruit better, damn it. Get portal playa's! Or, not. But no one should bitch when MU is playing in some garbage tourney such as the Crowne.(Waiting on Sultan to be a master contrarian and point out how I'm wrong)
Strange decision by Shanheen to take his last time out after a five minute stoppage for review of the clock. Don't you draw up a play during fhe stoppage?
SH got hosed on that out of bounds call too
Seton Hall lost like dogs.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on November 25, 2025, 06:41:30 PMStrange decision by Shanheen to take his last time out after a five minute stoppage for review of the clock. Don't you draw up a play during fhe stoppage?
SH got hosed on that out of bounds call too
Playing the ref game
Quote from: Viper on November 25, 2025, 06:35:41 PMbut you get 82's tone, right? Mocking the 'transfer', as if RGV is the way. Let's all admit, RGV is bs. You said it, so therefor it must be true. Just like your little buddy. We ALL should agree to the immutable truth. I don't recall who posted it, but someone referred to Shaka as Helen Keller. That was Rico, one of your favorite posters. Maybe a bit harsh, but not necessarily inaccurate. You want to win big...deep runs in March...you know, a Buzz-like E8, or flounder along barely beating Central Michigan? True, but did you notice that Clark had a nice 8 minutes? Bring in players by any means!!! Yes!!! Didn't you post somewhere last year that you were willing to get rid of ALL of them??? Recruit better, damn it. Get portal playa's! Or, not. But no one should bitch when MU is playing in some garbage tourney such as the Crowne.(Waiting on Sultan to be a master contrarian and point out how I'm wrong) He may not bother. You so often are.
Thanks for once again showing us why Viper is the perfect name for you.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on November 25, 2025, 07:13:10 PMThanks for once again showing us why Viper is the perfect name for you.
nice 8 minutes?, well F'in A. I stand corrected. RGV IT IS!! btw, it wasn't Riiico.
Quote from: Viper on November 25, 2025, 07:18:35 PMnice 8 minutes?, well F'in A. I stand corrected. RGV IT IS!! btw, it wasn't Riiico.
Ummm...you might want to look at the
It's Time to Think Bold thread. I even very kindly bumped the post for you.
Your welcome.
Didn't see it, but what was up with the FT disparity in the Hall game?
Quote from: MuggsyB on November 25, 2025, 08:08:12 PMDidn't see it, but what was up with the FT disparity in the Hall game?
Seton Hall fouled a lot like Holloway teams tend to do
Quote from: MuggsyB on November 25, 2025, 08:08:12 PMDidn't see it, but what was up with the FT disparity in the Hall game?
Just a guess, but I think that Seton Hall committed more fouls than USC.
Edit-Yup. Just checked. SH 28 fouls, USC 19. Always happy to answer your questions so you do not have to do the research yourself. That's what Scoop is for Muggsy. To answer all your questions.
38 to 18 isn't a normal FT disparity.
Quote from: MuggsyB on November 25, 2025, 08:08:12 PMDidn't see it, but what was up with the FT disparity in the Hall game?
Weak excuse
Quote from: MuggsyB on November 25, 2025, 08:24:57 PM38 to 18 isn't a normal FT disparity.
What in your wisdom should be a normal disparity? Is there a set standard?
Quote from: Viper on November 25, 2025, 06:35:41 PMbut you get 82's tone, right? Mocking the 'transfer', as if RGV is the way. Let's all admit, RGV is bs. I don't recall who posted it, but someone referred to Shaka as Helen Keller.
This may be the dumbest f*cking analogy I have ever seen posted here...
Quote from: The Sultan on November 25, 2025, 08:42:54 PMThis may be the dumbest f*cking analogy I have ever seen posted here...
no analogy made. but, awesome reply!!! And thanks for being 'king contrarian'. I knew you'd respond. Took longer than I thought, but I knew you wouldn't disappoint! And if I may, thanks for ALWAYS having to get that last word in. Fun at parties I'm sure you are.
Quote from: The Sultan on November 25, 2025, 08:42:54 PMThis may be the dumbest f*cking analogy I have ever seen posted here...
Analogy?? Nah...
Quote from: Viper on November 25, 2025, 08:48:23 PMawesome reply!!! And thanks for being 'king contrarian'. I knew you'd respond. Took longer than I thought, but I knew you wouldn't disappoint! And if I may, thanks for ALWAYS having to get that last word in. Fun at parties I'm sure you are.
I'm a ball at parties. Mostly because I don't attend parties with people who compare Shaka Smart with Helen Keller.
Seriously...WTF is that?
Jesus.
Why is everyone angry? What ever happened to a calm and reasonable discussion?
Quote from: Newsdreams on November 25, 2025, 08:40:44 PMWhat in your wisdom should be a normal disparity? Is there a set standard?
20 is highly unusual in a close game.
Quote from: MuggsyB on November 25, 2025, 08:57:21 PMWhy is everyone angry? What ever happened to a calm and reasonable discussion?
When did you join again?
Quote from: MuggsyB on November 25, 2025, 08:57:21 PMWhy is everyone angry? What ever happened to a calm and reasonable discussion?
F that, we must hate each other, thank you for your attention to this matter.
Quote from: MuggsyB on November 25, 2025, 09:01:57 PM20 is highly unusual in a close game.
What would be reasonable?
Quote from: Newsdreams on November 25, 2025, 09:06:14 PMF that, we must hate each other, thank you for your attention to this matter.
Quote from: Newsdreams on November 25, 2025, 09:08:03 PMWhat would be reasonable?
8-12 on the high end.
And stop attacking our tremendous and regal Manatee population.
Quote from: MuggsyB on November 25, 2025, 09:12:38 PM8-12 on the high end.
And stop attacking our tremendous and regal Manatee population.
I just love to eat them, but I didn't attack them on either of those posts.
Quote from: MuggsyB on November 25, 2025, 09:12:38 PM8-12 on the high end.
And stop attacking our tremendous and regal Manatee population.
So after 8-12 refs should stop calling fouls until it evens out?
Quote from: MuggsyB on November 25, 2025, 08:57:21 PMWhy is everyone angry? What ever happened to a calm and reasonable discussion?
Look straight into a mirror and you will see a perfect example of someone who is neither calm nor reasonable. And often angry as well. Wow! The
irony.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on November 25, 2025, 09:44:03 PMLook straight into a mirror and you will see a perfect example of someone who is neither calm nor reasonable. And often angry as well. Wow! The irony.
You're being unreasonable.
Quote from: MuggsyB on November 25, 2025, 10:11:24 PMQuote from: Scoop Snoop on November 25, 2025, 09:44:03 PMLook straight into a mirror and you will see a perfect example of someone who is neither calm nor reasonable. And often angry as well. Wow! The irony.
You're being unreasonable.
No he isn't
Quote from: MuggsyB on November 25, 2025, 10:11:24 PMQuote from: Scoop Snoop on November 25, 2025, 09:44:03 PMLook straight into a mirror and you will see a perfect example of someone who is neither calm nor reasonable. And often angry as well. Wow! The irony.
You're being unreasonable.
You're really good at projection, just like the super-sized Muggsy who is in the news all day every day.
Quote from: The Sultan on November 25, 2025, 08:50:50 PMI'm a ball at parties. Mostly because I don't attend parties with people who compare Shaka Smart with Helen Keller.
Seriously...WTF is that?
Jesus.
👍 We Are Marquette!
Quote from: The Sultan on November 25, 2025, 08:50:50 PMI'm a ball at parties. Mostly because I don't attend parties with people who compare Shaka Smart with Helen Keller.
Seriously...WTF is that?
Jesus.
This gave me a good laugh.
St. John's surprisingly sucks ass I guess ... 4-3 now. Guess it's only UConn
Quote from: Johnny B on November 26, 2025, 09:11:12 PMSt. John's surprisingly sucks ass I guess ... 4-3 now. Guess it's only UConn
Rick is the king of the transfer portal.
Quote from: MuggsyB on November 24, 2025, 06:49:29 PMWe have to get more opportunities to beat good teams to have any chance of a NCAA tournament birth.
I agree with that but with the OOC resume MU is probably going to have to go something like 15-5 in the Big East to even get into the bubble discussion.
At this point they have to show that they can beat a top 100 team before I can even think about the NCAA bubble. Even the lower teams in the Big East have looked better.
3 interesting Big East games today.
Providence takes on Wisconsin in San Diego. Probably a must win game for the Friars whose non-con hasn't been good. Loss probably gets them TCU tomorrow which wouldn't help much.
Creighton takes on Oregon and looks to avoid an 0-3 run through Vegas. Right now, they're not even a bubble team.
Georgetown is in Florida to take on Dayton in the ESPN Events Magic Bracket. Winner gets BYU or Miami. Big opportunity for the Hoyas.
Quote from: wadesworld on November 26, 2025, 10:23:50 PMRick is the king of the transfer portal.
At various points during the game, the announcers were criticizing St. John's fundamentals and game plan. Which, if I didn't know that Pitino was on the sideline, would have sounded like an indictment of the coach.
Quote from: MU82 on November 27, 2025, 11:03:45 AMAt various points during the game, the announcers were criticizing St. John's fundamentals and game plan. Which, if I didn't know that Pitino was on the sideline, would have sounded like an indictment of the coach.
Oh my
Gawd! That's horrible. And inexcusable and unacceptable.
Quote from: Johnny B on November 26, 2025, 09:11:12 PMSt. John's surprisingly sucks ass I guess ... 4-3 now. Guess it's only UConn
Not sure why that would surprise anyone. Their roster construction sucks.
Quote from: brewcity77 on November 27, 2025, 02:37:44 PMNot sure why that would surprise anyone. Their roster construction sucks.
I had screenshotted that guys tweet in June bc I thought he was being foolish in criticizing your call on St J. Glad you brought it up to him again here early in the season. They've got some skilled players, but yeesh. Weird team
Is basketball a team sport?
Providence stayed within two of Bucky (in the second half after spotting them 19 in the first half).
This is looking like a disastrous season for the BEast. It doesn't help our chances.
Quote from: MuggsyB on November 27, 2025, 07:43:25 PMThis is looking like a disastrous season for the BEast. It doesn't help our chances.
BE sucks, MU sucks and manatees are dumb.
Quote from: Newsdreams on November 27, 2025, 08:20:36 PMBE sucks, MU sucks and manatees are dumb.
Manatees have been patrolling our waters for 50 million years. Clearly, they're doing something right. Humans have no right to criticize them for anything. Even occasionally nudging kayakers or various vessels.
Quote from: wisblue on November 27, 2025, 05:16:15 AMI agree with that but with the OOC resume MU is probably going to have to go something like 15-5 in the Big East to even get into the bubble discussion.
At this point they have to show that they can beat a top 100 team before I can even think about the NCAA bubble. Even the lower teams in the Big East have looked better.
Tomorrow will tell us a lot moving forward.
Gtown with a nice comeback to force overtime.
An impressive choke job by Dayton. Good Lord
I guess this is why we can't let Dayton in the Big East.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on November 27, 2025, 07:07:19 PMProvidence stayed within two of Bucky (in the second half after spotting them 19 in the first half).
Wait, what? They added Jason Edwards and Jaylin Sellers in the portal...
Quote from: wadesworld on November 27, 2025, 09:16:00 PMWait, what? They added Jason Edwards and Jaylin Sellers in the portal...
Bucky added Rapp and Boyd. A big and a point. No way they should have won.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on November 27, 2025, 09:18:26 PMBucky added Rapp and Boyd. A big and a point. No way they should have won.
I wish we could pay for a 6'10" player to come get 3 rebounds per game and shoot 34% from the field for us.
Dayton beats Georgetown. Hoya Scoop in shambles
Quote from: wadesworld on November 27, 2025, 09:20:16 PMI wish we could pay for a 6'10" player to come get 3 rebounds per game and shoot 34% from the field for us.
You got me. 20/8 against a Big East team. We wouldn't want that. Give me 6/4 for free.
Absolutely no reason we shouldn't be the only undefeated team in the country this year. RGV baby (and not UT-RGV).
Quote from: Uncle Rico on November 27, 2025, 09:28:07 PMDayton beats Georgetown. Hoya Scoop in shambles
Lost like the dogs they are
Quote from: Uncle Rico on November 27, 2025, 09:28:07 PMDayton beats Georgetown. Hoya Scoop in shambles
Actually, people are generally positive. Hoyas came back from 14 down with 5:37 to force overtime, outscored Dayton 16-2 during this run. Missed a three to tie with 0:03 in OT when the went around and out. No shame there.
Won't help attendance next week, but it was a good showing.
Quote from: DFW HOYA on November 27, 2025, 11:18:12 PMActually, people are generally positive. Hoyas came back from 14 down with 5:37 to force overtime, outscored Dayton 16-2 during this run. Missed a three to tie with 0:03 in OT when the went around and out. No shame there.
Won't help attendance next week, but it was a good showing.
Seriously, you lost like dogs...
Quote from: wadesworld on November 27, 2025, 09:20:16 PMI wish we could pay for a 6'10" player to come get 3 rebounds per game and shoot 34% from the field for us.
you're paying for that now
Quote from: brewcity77 on November 27, 2025, 02:37:44 PMNot sure why that would surprise anyone. Their roster construction sucks.
RGV...helll yeah!
Quote from: brewcity77 on September 30, 2025, 06:57:10 AM[Cracked Sidewalks] Dayton Preview
The Flyers pulled off the upset in Dayton last year. Can they do the same in Milwaukee and push for an NCAA bid? Cracked Sidewalks has your Dayton Preview.
Dayton Flyers (//http://)
Quote from: mileskishnish72 on September 30, 2025, 01:40:42 PM6 out of 7???
Quote from: Fieldhouse Flyer on November 20, 2025, 07:30:30 AM7 out of 8 now.
By a surprizing coincidence,
Dayton has now won 7 out of 8 of their games against Big East opponents since the NBE was formed for the 2014-15 season:
Dayton Flyers 2025-26 Media Guide (.pdf) (https://daytonflyers.com/documents/2025/11/24/25-26_Media_Guide.pdf) – Page 56 –
ALL-TIME SERIES RESULTSMar 20, 2015 •
Providence • Nationwide Arena • NCAA •
Won 66-53Nov 29, 2015 •
Xavier • HP Field House • ADVO •
Lost 61-90 Nov 24, 2018 •
Butler • Imperial Arena •
Won 69-64 Nov 17, 2023 •
St. John's • TD Arena • CC •
Won 88-81 Nov 27, 2024 •
UConn • Lahina Civic Center • MAUI •
Won 85-67 Dec 13, 2024 •
Marquette • UD Arena •
Won 71-63 Nov 19, 2025 •
Marquette • Fiserv Forum •
Won 77-71 OT Nov 27, 2025 •
Georgetown • Orlando • ESPN Invitational •
Won 84-79 OT(https://streak.club/img/Mix1c2VyX2NvbnRlbnQvdXBsb2Fkcy9pbWFnZS8yMTI2MC5wbmc=/original/WVBEUg.png)
Too many of you spend too much time obsessing about Dayton 'not being good enough for the Big East'. Get a grip.Quote from: Uncle Rico on November 27, 2025, 09:28:07 PMDayton beats Georgetown.
Quote from: MU82 on November 27, 2025, 09:07:50 PMI guess this is why we can't let Dayton in the Big East.
(https://i0.wp.com/bobmorris.biz/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/LBJ.jpg?w=225&ssl=1)
"I'd much rather have the Dayton Flyers inside the tent pissing out than outside the tent pissing in." (https://bobmorris.biz/ten-prime-quotations-from-lbj)
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Moving on...
You 'Dayton haters' will be pleased to learn that the Flyers are a 10½-point underdog to #9 BYU tonight.
The Dayton Flyers have lost three National Championship games in their storied history – the first being against BYU in 1951:
Remember When... The Cougars Won the 1951 NIT Championship? (https://byucougars.com/news/2010/11/05/remember-when-the-cougars-won-the-1951-nit-championship) – BYUcougars.com
1951 National Invitation Tournament (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1951_National_Invitation_Tournament) – Wikipedia
We still hate BYU 74 years later.
Best of luck against Oklahoma tonight!(and by the way ... my apologies for the unanticipated rogue post.)
Quote from: Fieldhouse Flyer on November 28, 2025, 07:40:51 AMBy a surprizing coincidence, Dayton has now won 7 out of 8 of their games against Big East opponents since the NBE was formed for the 2014-15 season:
Dayton Flyers 2025-26 Media Guide (.pdf) (https://daytonflyers.com/documents/2025/11/24/25-26_Media_Guide.pdf) – Page 56 – ALL-TIME SERIES RESULTS
Mar 20, 2015 • Providence • Nationwide Arena NCAA • Won 66-53
Nov 29, 2015 • HP Field House • ADVO • Lost 61-90
Nov 24, 2018 • Butler • Imperial Arena • Won 69-64
Nov 17, 2023 • St. John's • TD Arena CC • Won 88-81
Nov 27, 2024 • UConn • Lahina Civic Center MAUI • Won 85-67
Dec 13, 2024 • Marquette • UD Arena • Won 71-63
Nov 19, 2025 • Marquette • Fiserv Forum • Won 77-71 OT
Nov 27, 2025 • Georgetown • Orlando • Won 84-79 OT
(https://streak.club/img/Mix1c2VyX2NvbnRlbnQvdXBsb2Fkcy9pbWFnZS8yMTI2MC5wbmc=/original/WVBEUg.png)
Too many of you spend too much time obsessing about Dayton 'not being good enough for the Big East'. Get a grip.
(https://i0.wp.com/bobmorris.biz/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/LBJ.jpg?w=225&ssl=1)
"I'd much rather have the Dayton Flyers inside the tent pissing out than outside the tent pissing in." (https://bobmorris.biz/ten-prime-quotations-from-lbj)
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Moving on...
You 'Dayton haters' will be pleased to learn that the Flyers are a 10½-point underdog to #9 BYU tonight.
The Dayton Flyers have lost three National Championship games in their storied history – the first being against BYU in 1951:
Remember When... The Cougars Won the 1951 NIT Championship? (https://byucougars.com/news/2010/11/05/remember-when-the-cougars-won-the-1951-nit-championship) – BYUcougars.com
1951 National Invitation Tournament (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1951_National_Invitation_Tournament) – Wikipedia
We still hate BYU 74 years later. Best of luck against Oklahoma tonight!
(and by the way ... my apologies for the unanticipated rogue post.)
Dayton sucks
Quote from: Viper on November 28, 2025, 07:34:33 AMRGV...helll yeah!
St. John's roster construction this year does suck. Brew laid it out pretty good in his season preview of them. It's a flawed team that isn't nearly as good as their pre-season ranking. They'll win enough games to make the tournament but they're not a serious threat to make a deep run in March
Quote from: Uncle Rico on November 28, 2025, 07:45:44 AMSt. John's roster construction this year does suck. Brew laid it out pretty good in his season preview of them. It's a flawed team that isn't nearly as good as their pre-season ranking. They'll win enough games to make the tournament but they're not a serious threat to make a deep run in March
agreed...hence my post
The Athletic heaped praise on Seton Hall after their Maui performance, concluding with this paragraph:
The Big East has a serious power vacuum after UConn and St. John's, and Seton Hall has just a good a chance as Creighton, Villanova, Georgetown, Butler or anyone else to finish in the top five.
Hang a banner! Marquette is among "anyone else"!
Quote from: Fieldhouse Flyer on November 20, 2025, 07:30:30 AMI might check back here in March 2026, but certainly not before then, so good-bye for now.
#FakeNews #Lies #DaytonBlows
Quote from: Fieldhouse Flyer on November 28, 2025, 07:40:51 AMBy a surprizing coincidence, Dayton has now won 7 out of 8 of their games against Big East opponents since the NBE was formed for the 2014-15 season:
Dayton Flyers 2025-26 Media Guide (.pdf) (https://daytonflyers.com/documents/2025/11/24/25-26_Media_Guide.pdf) – Page 56 – ALL-TIME SERIES RESULTS
Mar 20, 2015 • Providence • Nationwide Arena • NCAA • Won 66-53
Nov 29, 2015 • Xavier • HP Field House • ADVO • Lost 61-90
Nov 24, 2018 • Butler • Imperial Arena • Won 69-64
Nov 17, 2023 • St. John's • TD Arena • CC • Won 88-81
Nov 27, 2024 • UConn • Lahina Civic Center • MAUI • Won 85-67
Dec 13, 2024 • Marquette • UD Arena • Won 71-63
Nov 19, 2025 • Marquette • Fiserv Forum • Won 77-71 OT
Nov 27, 2025 • Georgetown • Orlando • ESPN Invitational • Won 84-79 OT
(https://streak.club/img/Mix1c2VyX2NvbnRlbnQvdXBsb2Fkcy9pbWFnZS8yMTI2MC5wbmc=/original/WVBEUg.png)
Too many of you spend too much time obsessing about Dayton 'not being good enough for the Big East'. Get a grip.
(https://i0.wp.com/bobmorris.biz/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/LBJ.jpg?w=225&ssl=1)
"I'd much rather have the Dayton Flyers inside the tent pissing out than outside the tent pissing in." (https://bobmorris.biz/ten-prime-quotations-from-lbj)
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Moving on...
You 'Dayton haters' will be pleased to learn that the Flyers are a 10½-point underdog to #9 BYU tonight.
The Dayton Flyers have lost three National Championship games in their storied history – the first being against BYU in 1951:
Remember When... The Cougars Won the 1951 NIT Championship? (https://byucougars.com/news/2010/11/05/remember-when-the-cougars-won-the-1951-nit-championship) – BYUcougars.com
1951 National Invitation Tournament (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1951_National_Invitation_Tournament) – Wikipedia
We still hate BYU 74 years later. Best of luck against Oklahoma tonight!
(and by the way ... my apologies for the unanticipated rogue post.)
This you?
Quote from: Fieldhouse Flyer on November 20, 2025, 07:30:30 AMBest of luck to the Golden Eagles for the rest of the season. I might check back here in March 2026, but certainly not before then, so good-bye for now.
Quote from: Fieldhouse Flyer on November 28, 2025, 07:40:51 AMThe Dayton Flyers have lost three National Championship games in their storied history – the first being against BYU in 1951:
Remember When... The Cougars Won the 1951 NIT Championship? (https://byucougars.com/news/2010/11/05/remember-when-the-cougars-won-the-1951-nit-championship) – BYUcougars.com
1951 National Invitation Tournament (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1951_National_Invitation_Tournament) – Wikipedia
We still hate BYU 74 years later. Best of luck against Oklahoma tonight!
(and by the way ... my apologies for the unanticipated rogue post.)
lol "storied history" for a program touting NITs that made the tournament 10 times in 34 years... if thats storied then its a bad story
Depaul with more high major wins than hs on their resume 8 games into the season not noy bingo card
Quote from: 1SE on November 29, 2025, 01:23:02 AMDepaul with more high major wins than hs on their resume 8 games into the season not noy bingo card
Right now they're better than us.
DePaul very well may finish ahead of us in the league for the first time since.?
Quote from: Johnny B on November 29, 2025, 03:05:21 PMDePaul very well may finish ahead of us in the league for the first time since.?
Has it happened since the new BE was formed? If not I can only think of 2004.
Quote from: MuggsyB on November 29, 2025, 03:00:51 PMRight now they're better than us.
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Quote from: MuggsyB on November 29, 2025, 03:00:51 PMRight now they're better than us.
Right now they're down 33 to a lower level SEC team... In the first half. No, they are not
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on November 29, 2025, 07:29:11 PMRight now they're down 33 to a lower level SEC team... In the first half. No, they are not
Maybe. It's possible we're better than Providence and DePaul. Will we beat Valpo?
Quote from: MuggsyB on November 29, 2025, 08:43:44 PMMaybe. It's possible we're better than Providence and DePaul. Will we beat Valpo?
Won't cover, so no.
1 bid BE
I say that half in jest, half dead serious.
I was at a 4.0+ open play early this morning (pickleball, duh). Quetted up as usual.
Played w a young guy... "respect for representing our troubled conference".. he was a Creighton guy. They are going through it too, but I think they'll be OK. Was good to let out some of my whining to a non-MU person. We beat the p1ss out of the other team, which was probably made worse for them by us being way more focused on chatting about BEast bball than the pb game. #pray #BEupdate
Quote from: Jay Bee on November 30, 2025, 02:34:31 PMI was at a 4.0+ open play early this morning (pickleball, duh). Quetted up as usual.
Played w a young guy... "respect for representing our troubled conference".. he was a Creighton guy. They are going through it too, but I think they'll be OK. Was good to let out some of my whining to a non-MU person. We beat the p1ss out of the other team, which was probably made worse for them by us being way more focused on chatting about BEast bball than the pb game. #pray #BEupdate
Tyfys
Xavier with a nice win over Cincy in the Crossrown Shootout. X's roster starting to come together.
Tre Carroll droped 30 on 14/23 shooting. Rivalry games...
DePaul down 8 to Arkansas. Excuse me, Arkansas Pine Bluff.
St. John's eeks out a win at home to crappy ole miss team despite being 14 pt favorites. Wow have they looked mediocre so far. On paper I thought they were a sure fire top ten team
Quote from: Johnny B on December 06, 2025, 09:23:10 PMSt. John's eeks out a win at home to crappy ole miss team despite being 14 pt favorites. Wow have they looked mediocre so far. On paper I thought they were a sure fire top ten team
Ya....they're not.
DePaul survives. Does what UIC couldn't do and bests UAPB.
Creighton managed to explode for 19 1st half points against Nebraska.
Gtown staying close at UNC.
Quote from: MuggsyB on December 07, 2025, 04:53:29 PMCreighton managed to explode for 19 1st half points against Nebraska.
Gtown staying close at UNC.
the Creighton board is sounding similar alarms as this one:
"Feels like it's going to be another total reset after this year. Dix and Graves Graduate. Would be shocked to see freeman stay the way Mac and the fans get on him. They need to move on from Ty, don't know what to think on Harper.
Going to have to build around the incoming freshman, Greer, Jackson, Green, and Traudt.
Hate that this is where my mind is at 9 games into the year. Gonna be a long year as a Jays fan.""Not seeing a leader on this team, a bulldog like Zegarowski, or guys with any fire like Kalk, McDermott, Schiermann, Ballock. Just a bunch of scared, feckless boys."
"So far it seems like a lot of smoke blown up our asses this offseason. A page taken out of the husker football playbook."
"Its like watching a slow motion car crash. I knew we had no rebounding and no defense. But no offense is really unbelievable. Poor Mac, he may retire after this game."
G town blown out by UNC.
Creighton embarrassing blowout to Nebraska. Big east sucks
Quote from: Johnny B on December 07, 2025, 05:52:59 PMG town blown out by UNC.
Creighton embarrassing blowout to Nebraska. Big east sucks
:(
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on December 07, 2025, 05:34:31 PMthe Creighton board is sounding similar alarms as this one:
"Feels like it's going to be another total reset after this year. Dix and Graves Graduate. Would be shocked to see freeman stay the way Mac and the fans get on him. They need to move on from Ty, don't know what to think on Harper.
Going to have to build around the incoming freshman, Greer, Jackson, Green, and Traudt.
Hate that this is where my mind is at 9 games into the year. Gonna be a long year as a Jays fan."
"Not seeing a leader on this team, a bulldog like Zegarowski, or guys with any fire like Kalk, McDermott, Schiermann, Ballock. Just a bunch of scared, feckless boys."
"So far it seems like a lot of smoke blown up our asses this offseason. A page taken out of the husker football playbook."
"Its like watching a slow motion car crash. I knew we had no rebounding and no defense. But no offense is really unbelievable. Poor Mac, he may retire after this game."
Sucking even with all the portal guys McDermott added? That's impossible!
Seriously, Big East is down big-time this year, and pretty much every team not named UConn and St. John's has significant shortcomings. I like JB's bet that MU will win more than 5 games. There are plenty of BE teams that look no better than Oklahoma, Dayton and Maryland, teams we obviously could have beaten.
Quote from: Johnny B on December 07, 2025, 05:52:59 PMG town blown out by UNC.
Creighton embarrassing blowout to Nebraska. Big east sucks
Georgetown was down by five on the road at halftime, but you just can't shoot 1 for 14 from three in the second half and expect to contend. Missing 16 of its final 18 shots of the game (most of which were not threes) didn't help, either.
Quote from: DFW HOYA on December 07, 2025, 07:46:35 PMGeorgetown was down by five on the road at halftime, but you just can't shoot 1 for 14 from three in the second half and expect to contend. Missing 16 of its final 18 shots of the game (most of which were not threes) didn't help, either.
Damn, that's certainly sounds familiar...
Quote from: MU82 on December 07, 2025, 07:12:36 PMThere are plenty of BE teams that look no better than Oklahoma, Dayton and Maryland, teams we obviously could have beaten.
... But didn't...
Quote from: rocky_warrior on December 07, 2025, 08:11:50 PM... But didn't...
True dat. The point is that the Big East is not filled with unbeatable juggernauts. We'll be in lots of games against lots of bad teams, and hopefully we'll finish a few of them better than we finished the games against those three teams.
Quote from: MU82 on December 07, 2025, 08:14:39 PMTrue dat. The point is that the Big East is not filled with unbeatable juggernauts. We'll be in lots of games against lots of bad teams, and hopefully we'll finish a few of them better than we finished the games against those three teams.
Everyone except for DePaul & Georgetown is in a different league than Marquette.
Edit: Wisconsin never trailed in the game, securing their largest margin of victory in the rivalry since 1952.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on December 07, 2025, 08:19:05 PMEveryone except for DePaul & Georgetown is in a different league than Marquette.
Creighton stinks, Xavier stinks, Providence stinks.
Doesn't make our situation any better but there is a lot of suck in the Big East.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on December 07, 2025, 08:25:59 PMCreighton stinks, Xavier stinks, Providence stinks.
PC & X are showing improvement. I think Creighton will too. But CU is the closest to sinking to our DePaul/Georgetown level.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on December 07, 2025, 08:19:05 PMEveryone except for DePaul & Georgetown is in a different league than Marquette.
We're bad Rocky. Really bad. But I agree with MU82. I'm thinking 6-14. Providence isn't good at all. Creighton looked abysmal today. Butler and X? Beatable.
Quote from: MuggsyB on December 07, 2025, 08:31:27 PMBeatable.
In that I agree. In the same vein that Valpo was beatable
Quote from: rocky_warrior on December 07, 2025, 08:33:19 PMIn that I agree. In the same vein that Valpo was beatable
What are you predicting. 4-16? 3-17?
Quote from: MuggsyB on December 07, 2025, 08:36:44 PMWhat are you predicting. 4-16? 3-17?
I'm hoping for 2 big east wins
Quote from: rocky_warrior on December 07, 2025, 08:38:55 PMI'm hoping for 2 big east wins
Yikes. Obviously this is quite depressing.
Quote from: MuggsyB on December 07, 2025, 08:40:35 PMYikes. Obviously this is quite depressing.
I hope the team gets better and I'm underestimating them. But they haven't shown it thus far.
Alas, I'm a hopeless fan that will watch every game regardless.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on December 07, 2025, 08:44:29 PMI hope the team gets better and I'm underestimating them. But they haven't shown it thus far.
Alas, I'm a hopeless fan that will watch every game regardless.
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That's fair. We really haven't shown diddly squat.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on December 07, 2025, 08:44:29 PMI hope the team gets better and I'm underestimating them. But they haven't shown it thus far.
Alas, I'm a hopeless fan that will watch every game regardless.
Meh. I'll attend a few games, watch the others, and most likely be in NYC for the BET.
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Quote from: Spaniel with a Short Tail on December 07, 2025, 09:47:53 PMMeh. I'll attend a few games, watch the others, and most likely be in NYC for the BET.
Targeting the Prov, (@Butler), and maybe Creighton games in person. Not terrible from 1000 miles away
Quote from: Spaniel with a Short Tail on December 07, 2025, 09:47:53 PMMeh. I'll attend a few games, watch the others, and most likely be in NYC for the BET.
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Hey, see you in NMD, probably a 90 degree swing. Will sacrifice...
We're going to the home Providence game and the game at DePaul. It'll be fun to get together with our friends, and we'll enjoy watching 2 wins for Marquette!
A buddy texted me yesterday and asked if I wanted his dad's tickets to the Purdue/MU game, no charge. I actually hesitated before saying "yes." That's where my fandom is right now; do I want to watch a bloodbath in person?
A few $3 pints of Old Style at Harry's Chocolate Shop should dull the pain.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on December 08, 2025, 08:41:36 AMA buddy texted me yesterday and asked if I wanted his dad's tickets to the Purdue/MU game, no charge. I actually hesitated before saying "yes." That's where my fandom is right now; do I want to watch a bloodbath in person?
A few $3 pints of Old Style at Harry's Chocolate Shop should dull the pain.
Nice. I'll meet you at Harry's a couple hours before tip. Where are we sitting for the game?
Quote from: MU82 on December 08, 2025, 11:07:11 AMNice. I'll meet you at Harry's a couple hours before tip. Where are we sitting for the game?
I think it's similar to where the families of the Christians being fed to the Lions sat in the arenas back in Rome.
Ave imperator, morituri te salutant
Still in the first half, but Michigan taking Nova to the woodshed. #BigLEast
Quote from: Jay Bee on December 09, 2025, 06:12:31 PMStill in the first half, but Michigan taking Nova to the woodshed. #BigLEast
They've won their last 4 all by 30+. Up 30 at half against Nova.
That's your team to beat in college basketball so far. Wow.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on December 09, 2025, 06:20:55 PMThey've won their last 4 all by 30+. Up 30 at half against Nova.
That's your team to beat in college basketball so far. Wow.
They seem to be managing okay with transfers on their roster.
Quote from: MuggsyB on December 09, 2025, 06:24:49 PMThey seem to be managing okay with transfers on their roster.
Nova has 0 transfers.
Quote from: MuggsyB on December 09, 2025, 06:24:49 PMThey seem to be managing okay with transfers on their roster.
Not possible.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on December 09, 2025, 06:50:35 PMNot possible.
He was being sarcastic. The sooner we deal with reality, the better.
Up by over 30 but ft% is sub-50% and they r not connected!
Quote from: Jay Bee on December 09, 2025, 06:58:05 PMUp by over 30 but ft% is sub-50% and they r not connected!
They also don't miss chippies and have dudes that can ball. We have a lot of probs Jay Bee. Defcon 1 level issues.
Wow, Georgetown plays at quite a pace. They run down and jack up any shot from anywhere in the court, regardless of what chance they actually have of making it. Lots of ugly bricks.
DePaul gets their new practice facility approved by the Chicago City Council. I would imagine this will be completed around 2032 and DePaul will still suck.
https://x.com/NickPalazzolo5/status/1998928219614097659
Hurley wants to play 8 high major non-con games next year, wants less Big East games:
https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/dan-hurley-wants-uconn-to-play-one-of-one-of-most-ambitious-nonconference-schedules-ever-seen-next-season
Quote from: CountryRoads on December 12, 2025, 02:26:38 PMHurley wants to play 8 high major non-con games next year, wants less Big East games:
https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/dan-hurley-wants-uconn-to-play-one-of-one-of-most-ambitious-nonconference-schedules-ever-seen-next-season
Probably because the league sucks and just holds UConn back from getting a better seed.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on December 12, 2025, 02:43:24 PMProbably because the league sucks and just holds UConn back from getting a better seed.
They may might not even get 2 ranked opponents in conference play this year. UConn will bolt the second they can. Wouldn't mind big east and ACC merging at some point but hard to see it. Fear with no jay wright nova or UConn big east will fall into obscurity
Everything is cyclical. Big East has had many years in which it's been a top-3 conference.
Quote from: Johnny B on December 12, 2025, 03:24:39 PMThey may might not even get 2 ranked opponents in conference play this year. UConn will bolt the second they can. Wouldn't mind big east and ACC merging at some point but hard to see it. Fear with no jay wright nova or UConn big east will fall into obscurity
Feels like people have been saying this for the last decade.
Quote from: Johnny B on December 12, 2025, 03:24:39 PMThey may might not even get 2 ranked opponents in conference play this year. UConn will bolt the second they can. Wouldn't mind big east and ACC merging at some point but hard to see it.
How does someone manage a 29 team conference across 19 states and 28 different sports, with football schools getting the lion's share of the media rights? No thanks.
Quote from: DFW HOYA on December 12, 2025, 07:31:37 PMHow does someone manage a 29 team conference across 19 states and 28 different sports, with football schools getting the lion's share of the media rights? No thanks.
Wouldn't be all the acc. Just the leftover ones not picked off by the super conferences. It's just speculation mostly
Gonzaga has such a hard time getting high seeds. UCONN's had an impossible time getting high seeds or having Tourney success since rejoining the Big East.
Every time I see the "Madison Reed" court advertisement I think "why does UConn have Ashley Madison as a sponsor?"
Potentially a big blow for Butler:
https://x.com/i/status/1999655788139225316
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on December 12, 2025, 09:25:05 PMPotentially a big blow for Butler:
https://x.com/i/status/1999655788139225316
MUguru now @ Butler?
St. John's and DePaul with a nice road win. Exciting game going on right now with Providence at Butler.
https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?msg=1776521
Creighton about to lose.
Georgetown did their best Marquette/Valpo impression needing OT to take care of Saint Peter's. Marquette *should* have a chance to win the next one.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on December 13, 2025, 04:15:48 PMGeorgetown did their best Marquette/Valpo impression needing OT to take care of Saint Peter's. Marquette *should* have a chance to win the next one.
Marquette will be double-digit favorites.
Quote from: DFW HOYA on December 13, 2025, 10:28:27 PMMarquette will be double-digit favorites.
No they won't lol
Quote from: DFW HOYA on December 13, 2025, 10:28:27 PMMarquette will be double-digit favorites.
DFW Hoya, have you seen any minute of any of our games?
The high miss rate of layups is award winning.
Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on December 14, 2025, 07:00:04 AMDFW Hoya, have you seen any minute of any of our games? The high miss rate of layups is award winning.
While I don't see MU as a 20 point favorite, 10 is more reasonable. Why? A lot of trends are not going Georgetown's way:
1. MU is 5-2 at home while Georgetown is 0-3 in games outside the Washington area: Dayton (78-73), Miami (78-65), and North Carolina (81-61). Marquette has won four straight over Georgetown at Fiserv by an average of 21 points, last year was 81-51.
2. Georgetown ranks 332nd in three point shooting (29.0%). Its top recruit from the portal, Baylor's Langston Love, is shooting threes at a 20% rate.
3. Its top two scorers (Malik Mack and K.J. Lewis) were a combined 2 for 10 vs. St. Peter's, its third scorer (Vince Iwuchukwu) is out for at least two more weeks, and its sixth man (DeShawn Harris-Smith) has taken a leave of absence from the team. Where the offense comes from is a legitimate question.
Quote from: DFW HOYA on December 14, 2025, 01:33:46 PMWhile I don't see MU as a 20 point favorite, 10 is more reasonable. Why? A lot of trends are not going Georgetown's way:
1. MU is 5-2 at home while Georgetown is 0-3 in games outside the Washington area: Dayton (78-73), Miami (78-65), and North Carolina (81-61). Marquette has won four straight over Georgetown at Fiserv by an average of 21 points, last year was 81-51.
2. Georgetown ranks 332nd in three point shooting (29.0%). Its top recruit from the portal, Baylor's Langston Love, is shooting threes at a 20% rate.
3. Its top two scorers (Malik Mack and K.J. Lewis) were a combined 2 for 10 vs. St. Peter's, its third scorer (Vince Iwuchukwu) is out for at least two more weeks, and its sixth man (DeShawn Harris-Smith) has taken a leave of absence from the team. Where the offense comes from is a legitimate question.
Stop giving actual stats, not relevant here.
Quote from: DFW HOYA on December 14, 2025, 01:33:46 PMWhile I don't see MU as a 20 point favorite, 10 is more reasonable. Why? A lot of trends are not going Georgetown's way:
1. MU is 5-2 at home while Georgetown is 0-3 in games outside the Washington area: Dayton (78-73), Miami (78-65), and North Carolina (81-61). Marquette has won four straight over Georgetown at Fiserv by an average of 21 points, last year was 81-51.
2. Georgetown ranks 332nd in three point shooting (29.0%). Its top recruit from the portal, Baylor's Langston Love, is shooting threes at a 20% rate.
3. Its top two scorers (Malik Mack and K.J. Lewis) were a combined 2 for 10 vs. St. Peter's, its third scorer (Vince Iwuchukwu) is out for at least two more weeks, and its sixth man (DeShawn Harris-Smith) has taken a leave of absence from the team. Where the offense comes from is a legitimate question.
Marquette fans also could rattle off a few trends.
I will be beyond stunned if MU is anywhere near a 10-point favorite. And I'm one of this board's optimists.
Quote from: MU82 on December 14, 2025, 09:14:47 PMI will be beyond stunned if MU is anywhere near a 10-point favorite. And I'm one of this board's optimists.
Hah, random Georgetown fan is most optimistic MU fan ;D
MU will probably be a 4 pt favorite.
Quote from: DFW HOYA on December 13, 2025, 10:28:27 PMMarquette will be double-digit favorites.
According to FanDuel, Marquette is a 3.5-point favorite.
Quote from: MU82 on December 16, 2025, 02:54:09 PMAccording to FanDuel, Marquette is a 3.5-point favorite.
That's crazy to me!
I'd be stunned if we pull out a win. Just hoping to see 1 guy, anyone, knock down open shots.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on December 16, 2025, 03:08:40 PMThat's crazy to me!
I'd be stunned if we pull out a win. Just hoping to see 1 guy, anyone, knock down open shots.
You were stunned that we could beat Georgia Tech a few years ago or Wisconsin last year.
Quote from: MU82 on December 16, 2025, 03:12:11 PMYou were stunned that we could beat Georgia Tech a few years ago or Wisconsin last year.
And neither of those Marquette teams were remotely close to as incapable as this one, and there's a chance Georgetown is worse than both Georgia Tech and Wisconsin.
That's how bad this team is!
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on December 16, 2025, 03:15:39 PMAnd neither of those Marquette teams were remotely close to as incapable as this one, and there's a chance Georgetown is worse than both Georgia Tech and Wisconsin.
That's how bad this team is!
The Georgetown guy who posts here thinks his team has little chance and believes Marquette should be favored by at least 10.
In general, fans are myopic. They see their own team's problems while not acknowledging the problems the opponent might have. You don't think we can beat Georgetown - or anybody else. The GT guy doesn't think his team can beat Marquette.
I've seen 10 minutes of Georgetown basketball this season, and they were quite bad. I've seen every minute of Marquette basketball, and we've been quite bad. I assume we're favored only because we're the home team. No result would surprise me, and I'm making no prediction.
Georgetown is 2-3 in their last 5, OT loss to Dayton, double digit losses to Miami and UNC, and barely beat UMBC & St Peter's.
Just because we suck doesn't mean other teams like Georgetown don't suck too. We'll be favored here, they'll probably be favored there.
I was off by a 1/2 point. The bottom line is MU must drop the 🔨 tomorrow to keep a scintilla of hope alive.
MU 5.5 favorite right now
Creighton up 30 on X??
Creighton's not real good. And certainly Xavier is bad.
Quote from: MU82 on December 17, 2025, 07:23:09 PMCreighton's not real good. And certainly Xavier is bad.
So you're saying that MU has a chance against X?
Quote from: Jockey on December 17, 2025, 07:28:12 PMSo you're saying that MU has a chance against X?
Yes but won't cover, so no...
Quote from: MuggsyB on December 17, 2025, 07:08:53 PMCreighton up 30 on X??
The 3 ball was dropping all over the place for Creighton tonight.
Quote from: brewcity77 on December 16, 2025, 06:11:22 PMGeorgetown is 2-3 in their last 5, OT loss to Dayton, double digit losses to Miami and UNC, and barely beat UMBC & St Peter's.
Just because we suck doesn't mean other teams like Georgetown don't suck too. We'll be favored here, they'll probably be favored there.
F'in embarrassing. So much for Shaka's "Big East Reset"
Quote from: rocky_warrior on December 17, 2025, 09:36:00 PMF'in embarrassing. So much for Shaka's "Big East Reset"
Yeah, that was stupid anyway. It means nothing. Non con games don't count any less than conference ones.
Quote from: DFW HOYA on December 14, 2025, 01:33:46 PMWhile I don't see MU as a 20 point favorite, 10 is more reasonable. Why? A lot of trends are not going Georgetown's way:
1. MU is 5-2 at home while Georgetown is 0-3 in games outside the Washington area: Dayton (78-73), Miami (78-65), and North Carolina (81-61). Marquette has won four straight over Georgetown at Fiserv by an average of 21 points, last year was 81-51.
2. Georgetown ranks 332nd in three point shooting (29.0%). Its top recruit from the portal, Baylor's Langston Love, is shooting threes at a 20% rate.
3. Its top two scorers (Malik Mack and K.J. Lewis) were a combined 2 for 10 vs. St. Peter's, its third scorer (Vince Iwuchukwu) is out for at least two more weeks, and its sixth man (DeShawn Harris-Smith) has taken a leave of absence from the team. Where the offense comes from is a legitimate question.
Well now, don't YOU feel like an idiot!
(I don't think that's how trolling fans of other teams is supposed to work)
Quote from: rocky_warrior on December 17, 2025, 10:44:47 PMWell now, don't YOU feel like an idiot!
(I don't think that's how trolling fans of other teams is supposed to work)
Hey - they only needed 25% from three to win!
Quote from: rocky_warrior on December 17, 2025, 09:36:00 PMF'in embarrassing. So much for Shaka's "Big East Reset"
Things are really looking bleak, with no end in sight.
Waiting for the apologists to offer up excuses.
Did anyone else know that Villanova is playing Wisconsin tomorrow tonight in Fiserv? Could be an opportunity to watch a Big East team beat Bucky in Milwaukee.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on December 17, 2025, 10:44:47 PMWell now, don't YOU feel like an idiot!
(I don't think that's how trolling fans of other teams is supposed to work)
I wasn't trolling, because that's not what I do.
I do think Georgetown overperformed to recent results and Marquette didn't do as well as it has in previous games against Georgetown, particualrly Chase Ross, who scorched the Hoyas for 27 in last year's game at Fiserv, Wednesday, he was 1-11. If Ross shoots 4-11 it's a toss-up into the final minute.
Georgetown gets a reputation as a poor team for two stats: poor eFG (including a really bad 3FG rate) and late game turnovers coming from its starting guards. Its second half shooting was remarkably efficient and avoided turnovers, particularly from Malik Mack, who had no turnovers after halftime. It stil can't hit threes (1-8 after halftime, 4-16 overall) but the inside game made up for it.
Marquette struggled inside and you see it more than I do. Ben Gold remains a puzzle of sorts and that has to be addressed as teams will look to punish MU inside. I still don't see Marquette locked in for 11th if Ross picks up the scoring and Hamilton stays out of foul trouble, but it's still early.
Quote from: DFW HOYA on December 18, 2025, 07:41:59 PMI wasn't trolling, because that's not what I do.
I do think Georgetown overperformed to recent results and Marquette didn't do as well as it has in previous games against Georgetown, particualrly Chase Ross, who scorched the Hoyas for 27 in last year's game at Fiserv, Wednesday, he was 1-11. If Ross shoots 4-11 it's a toss-up into the final minute.
Georgetown gets a reputation as a poor team for two stats: poor eFG (including a really bad 3FG rate) and late game turnovers coming from its starting guards. Its second half shooting was remarkably efficient and avoided turnovers, particularly from Malik Mack, who had no turnovers after halftime. It stil can't hit threes (1-8 after halftime, 4-16 overall) but the inside game made up for it.
Marquette struggled inside and you see it more than I do. Ben Gold remains a puzzle of sorts and that has to be addressed as teams will look to punish MU inside. I still don't see Marquette locked in for 11th if Ross picks up the scoring and Hamilton stays out of foul trouble, but it's still early.
Your big is impressive.
Quote from: K1 Lover on December 18, 2025, 07:21:51 PMDid anyone else know that Villanova is playing Wisconsin tomorrow tonight in Fiserv? Could be an opportunity to watch a Big East team beat Bucky in Milwaukee.
It will be a change seeing a bona fide Big East team play at Fiserv this season.
Quote from: DFW HOYA on December 18, 2025, 07:41:59 PMI wasn't trolling, because that's not what I do.
Well, my joke was about me trolling you for being so optimistic about Marquette. But I apparently need to work on the landing.
As I mentioned in some thread, Georgetown doesn't look like a great team, but you've got more production out of 4 of your starting 5 than we do, which is why I wasn't so confident of a MU win.
Quote from: DFW HOYA on December 18, 2025, 07:41:59 PMI wasn't trolling, because that's not what I do.
I do think Georgetown overperformed to recent results and Marquette didn't do as well as it has in previous games against Georgetown, particualrly Chase Ross, who scorched the Hoyas for 27 in last year's game at Fiserv, Wednesday, he was 1-11. If Ross shoots 4-11 it's a toss-up into the final minute.
Georgetown gets a reputation as a poor team for two stats: poor eFG (including a really bad 3FG rate) and late game turnovers coming from its starting guards. Its second half shooting was remarkably efficient and avoided turnovers, particularly from Malik Mack, who had no turnovers after halftime. It stil can't hit threes (1-8 after halftime, 4-16 overall) but the inside game made up for it.
Marquette struggled inside and you see it more than I do. Ben Gold remains a puzzle of sorts and that has to be addressed as teams will look to punish MU inside. I still don't see Marquette locked in for 11th if Ross picks up the scoring and Hamilton stays out of foul trouble, but it's still early.
Your flaw was in talking about Georgetown's trend while ignoring Marquette's trend. I wish it weren't the case, but few (if any) Power 5 teams are trending worse than MU.
Nova lost focus. Very unfortunate.
So it looks like we're going to be 0-2 against Nova this season
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on December 19, 2025, 09:02:12 PMSo it looks like we're going to be 0-2 against Nova this season
Yes.
Nova blew this game. Inexcusable. What a boneheaded decision there
Willard runs a nice offense
They've dominated overtime
Quote from: BCHoopster on December 19, 2025, 09:18:32 PMWillard runs a nice offense
Their last possession of regulation was poor, otherwise, agree with you.
Nova with one more P4 win at Fiserv than we have >:(
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on December 19, 2025, 09:21:20 PMNova with one more P4 win at Fiserv than we have >:(
This is basically a road win for Nova.
Nova's roster construction by Willard looks really good.
Out of the eight players in rotation:
Six portal players
One top 50 recruit
One international player from Belgium, big guy inside
See how it goes in BE play, but they look a lot better than past few.
Whew. My strategy worked! Nova shoukd have won by 10-15 in regulation.
Is there an explanation why Nova is 19 times better than us defensively? I was just curious.
Quote from: nyg on December 19, 2025, 09:50:48 PMNova's roster construction by Willard looks really good.
Out of the eight players in rotation:
Six portal players
One top 50 recruit
One international player from Belgium, big guy inside
See how it goes in BE play, but they look a lot better than past few.
Huh. How about that.
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on December 19, 2025, 10:04:49 PMHuh. How about that.
Belgium, Big guy inside was a recruit of ours.
Quote from: MuggsyB on December 19, 2025, 10:00:32 PMIs there an explanation why Nova is 19 times better than us defensively? I was just curious.
Didn't see one high hedge by either team. Mostly drop coverage and tagging.
Quote from: MUDPT on December 19, 2025, 10:16:21 PMDidn't see one high hedge by either team. Mostly drop coverage and tagging.
Ty.
It's not like Nova was lights out from 3 either.
St. John's blows.. bubble team
Quote from: Johnny B on December 20, 2025, 01:44:52 PMSt. John's blows.. bubble team
..
Yep. Looks like we need to beat UCONN twice and win the BEast tournament.
Quote from: MuggsyB on December 20, 2025, 02:11:54 PM..
Yep. Looks like we need to beat UCONN twice and win the BEast tournament.
No problem for us.
Being anything more three bid league looks like a pipe dream right now and even three may be a stretch
Quote from: nyg on December 19, 2025, 09:50:48 PMNova's roster construction by Willard looks really good.
Out of the eight players in rotation:
Six portal players
One top 50 recruit
One international player from Belgium, big guy inside
See how it goes in BE play, but they look a lot better than past few.
RGV baby.
Seth Trimble, another mistake by Shaka, senior who can play a tad would easily start for MU, Shaka was to stubborn
Quote from: Johnny B on December 20, 2025, 01:44:52 PMSt. John's blows.. bubble team
Nah. They'll have a real good Big East record and will easily make the field. But yeah, the conference is not good.
As an aside, the 3-man booth with Raftery and Pearl next to Nessler is pretty bad. Raf lost his fastball years ago, and now he's only all about trying to squeeze in his dopey catchphrases, and Pearl didn't know when to jump in with anything meaningful.
Quote from: BCHoopster on December 20, 2025, 03:44:08 PMSeth Trimble, another mistake by Shaka, senior who can play a tad would easily start for MU, Shaka was to stubborn
Ehh.
If we start taking transfers I hope we aim higher than Seth Trimble. We have players like him or players that can play like him. We need the portal to add something we don't have. We need a real power level center. We need a shooter. Not more of the same.
Quote from: BCHoopster on December 20, 2025, 03:44:08 PMShaka was to stubborn
Shaka was to stubborn as BCHoopster was to misspelling.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on December 20, 2025, 03:49:39 PMEhh.
If we start taking transfers I hope we aim higher than Seth Trimble. We have players like him or players that can play like him. We need the portal to add something we don't have. We need a real power level center. We need a shooter. Not more of the same.
We need a lot.
Quote from: BCHoopster on December 20, 2025, 04:32:43 PMTrimble would start this year
But we'd still suck.
We need Big men in the front court.
Quote from: MU82 on December 20, 2025, 03:47:12 PMNah. They'll have a real good Big East record and will easily make the field. But yeah, the conference is not good.
As an aside, the 3-man booth with Raftery and Pearl next to Nessler is pretty bad. Raf lost his fastball years ago, and now he's only all about trying to squeeze in his dopey catchphrases, and Pearl didn't know when to jump in with anything meaningful.
A really good BEast record this year doesn't necessarily mean they'll easily make the field. They're 7-4 and haven't beaten anyone.
Quote from: BCHoopster on December 20, 2025, 03:44:08 PMSeth Trimble, another mistake by Shaka, senior who can play a tad would easily start for MU, Shaka was to stubborn
Trimble shoots like you spell. Both are awful.
Quote from: MuggsyB on December 20, 2025, 05:09:25 PMA really good BEast record this year doesn't necessarily mean they'll easily make the field. They're 7-4 and haven't beaten anyone.
Maybe. I bet they'll make it pretty easily, but I guess we'll see.
Quote from: Jay Bee on December 20, 2025, 05:16:48 PMTrimble shoots like you spell. Both are awful.
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I agree he is not a good shooter, but it's not like Jones or Nigel can shoot either. Trimble would be older and lets be honest the senior class on shooting is bleak.
Thad Matta isn't happy even after his team won a neutral-site game against a P4 team (their third this season). Hasn't he learned from Shaka that what matters is if the guys are good friends?
https://x.com/ButlerBBHQ/status/2002526537099378848
Georgetown loses at home to Xavier.. lol
X with the win over Georgetown in DC.
Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on December 20, 2025, 09:47:23 PMX with the win over Georgetown in DC.
Hundreds of fans go home disappointed
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on December 20, 2025, 06:34:37 PMThad Matta isn't happy even after his team won a neutral-site game against a P4 team (their third this season). Hasn't he learned from Shaka that what matters is if the guys are good friends?
https://x.com/ButlerBBHQ/status/2002526537099378848
If only Shaka could give Marquette what Thad has given Butler.
Quote from: wadesworld on December 20, 2025, 09:54:08 PMIf only Shaka could give Marquette what Thad has given Butler.
I'd take 9-3 this season.
Quote from: Johnny B on December 20, 2025, 09:46:00 PMGeorgetown loses at home to Xavier.. lol
Missed 18 FT's, including 0-4 in the final five seconds, and lose by three.
Announced attendance of 5,077 was the second largest crowd of the season.
Quote from: DFW HOYA on December 20, 2025, 11:43:18 PMMissed 18 FT's, including 0-4 in the final five seconds, and lose by three.
Announced attendance of 5,077 was the second largest crowd of the season.
Yikes
Quote from: DFW HOYA on December 20, 2025, 11:43:18 PMMissed 18 FT's, including 0-4 in the final five seconds, and lose by three.
Announced attendance of 5,077 was the second largest crowd of the season.
Cooley was foolish to hurl a water bottle into the stands. Kid's parents are suing.
Quote from: DFW HOYA on December 20, 2025, 11:43:18 PMMissed 18 FT's, including 0-4 in the final five seconds, and lose by three.
Announced attendance of 5,077 was the second largest crowd of the season.
Lost the eFG% battle by wide margin.
Not sure if this has been posted, but Ed Cooley smoked a little child with a half full water bottle after losing.
Imagine Shaka or Hurley doing that. Shaka stepped one foot on the court one time and the Internet almost shut down. Would be national news, but Ed will somehow slide.
https://x.com/i/status/2002611024617484311
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on December 21, 2025, 11:27:45 AMNot sure if this has been posted, but Ed Cooley smoked a little child with a half full water bottle after losing.
Imagine Shaka or Hurley doing that. Shaka stepped one foot on the court one time and the Internet almost shut down. Would be national news, but Ed will somehow slide.
https://x.com/i/status/2002611024617484311
considering the size of the crowd at the game one has to give credit to Cooley for his accuracy.
And if you haven't noticed, it's all over Twitter. There is no conspiracy against MU.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on December 21, 2025, 12:39:46 PMconsidering the size of the crowd at the game one has to give credit to Cooley for his accuracy.
And if you haven't noticed, it's all over Twitter. There is no conspiracy against MU.
Hurley would for certain be suspended
The 5,077 attendance figure at the Georgetown was questioned by those in attendance. Probably 3,000.
Ten years ago, Georgetown was averaging just under 10,000 a game. Now, 4,354.
There we go.
1 game suspension for Cooley.
Quote from: MU82 on December 20, 2025, 03:47:12 PMAs an aside, the 3-man booth with Raftery and Pearl next to Nessler is pretty bad. Raf lost his fastball years ago, and now he's only all about trying to squeeze in his dopey catchphrases, and Pearl didn't know when to jump in with anything meaningful.
Yeah, Pearl gets so excited to say... Anything... That he says nothing. Agreed on Raf.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on December 21, 2025, 02:43:25 PM1 game suspension for Cooley.
Impossible. Sources said, "Ed will somehow slide."
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on December 21, 2025, 12:39:46 PMconsidering the size of the crowd at the game one has to give credit to Cooley for his accuracy.
Made me laugh out loud. My wife asked what I was laughing at, I read it to her, and she laughed too. Well done, Billy.
Butler's Kieth looks like a Phillips clone.
Georgetown with the 97-67 home win over Coppin State. Attendance: 1,463.
Quote from: DFW HOYA on December 22, 2025, 10:27:17 PMGeorgetown with the 97-67 home win over Coppin State. Attendance: 1,463.
Hoya Fever!
Nova wins over da Hall.
Quote from: MuggsyB on December 23, 2025, 08:11:59 PMNova wins over da Hall.
This'll sound familiar to Marquette-watchers: SH shot 33%, including 23% from 3.
Quote from: MU82 on December 23, 2025, 08:36:46 PMThis'll sound familiar to Marquette-watchers: SH shot 33%, including 23% from 3.
Yes.
Although looking at Nova's roster I'm wondering why they're significantly better than us defensively.
Quote from: MuggsyB on December 23, 2025, 09:59:13 PMYes.
Although looking at Nova's roster I'm wondering why they're significantly better than us defensively.
Because you've seen all of our games but know very little about Villanova's players, rotations, strengths and weaknesses?
Butler giving the Jays a game in Omaha.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on December 07, 2025, 08:28:00 PMPC & X are showing improvement. I think Creighton will too. But CU is the closest to sinking to our DePaul/Georgetown level.
Creighton moves to 3-0 in conference play. I guess they're not as bad as we are
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on December 30, 2025, 10:22:34 PMCreighton moves to 3-0 in conference play. I guess they're not as bad as we are
I noticed you didn't highlight the "PC & X are showing improvement. I think Creighton will too." part.
McDermott has made adjustments. Marquette is clearly the worst in the big east. Every other team at least plays hard every game.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on December 30, 2025, 10:28:11 PMI noticed you didn't highlight the "PC & X are showing improvement. I think Creighton will too." part.
McDermott has made adjustments. Marquette is clearly the worst in the big east. Every other team at least plays hard every game.
I only mentioned Creighton because I had just finished watching their game. It wasn't as much your post (I was not calling you out, sorry if it came off that way) but the conventional wisdom of the board that CU was going to be awful.
X has improved from what we thought they would be when this post was made, when some here had them in the 0-20 DePaul zone. I have not seen PC play this season so I can't speak to them
Quote from: rocky_warrior on December 30, 2025, 10:28:11 PMMarquette is clearly the worst in the big east. Every other team at least plays hard every game.
Didn't you think Marquette played hard last night? During which stretches did our players just coast?
Not trying to just nitpick. I seriously thought we played pretty hard, but I allow that I might have missed something.
Quote from: MU82 on December 31, 2025, 11:24:20 AMDidn't you think Marquette played hard last night? During which stretches did our players just coast?
Not trying to just nitpick. I seriously thought we played pretty hard, but I allow that I might have missed something.
For sure they played hard for much of the game. But not all of it. And really, the key in my original quote was "every game". Many times chase just stands around hoping others will create. I shouldn't single out Chase, it really goes for the entire team.
Quote from: MU82 on December 31, 2025, 11:24:20 AMDidn't you think Marquette played hard last night? During which stretches did our players just coast?
Not trying to just nitpick. I seriously thought we played pretty hard, but I allow that I might have missed something.
Playing hard for AT LEAST 40 minutes a night is the bare minimum need for winning teams. It's very hard to do, but it's the bare minimum.
I thought we improved in that area last night but still wasn't a full 40 and the scoreboard showed it in the end.
Quote from: MU82 on December 31, 2025, 11:24:20 AMDidn't you think Marquette played hard last night? During which stretches did our players just coast?
Not trying to just nitpick. I seriously thought we played pretty hard, but I allow that I might have missed something.
I am no expert and could be totally wrong, but especially in the 1st half there seemed to be lot of lazy passing by SH that past MU teams would have turned into easy baskets. Maybe its a talent issue but could also be an effort issue.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on December 31, 2025, 11:51:33 AMFor sure they played hard for much of the game. But not all of it. And really, the key in my original quote was "every game". Many times chase just stands around hoping others will create. I shouldn't single out Chase, it really goes for the entire team.
Think some of that dates back to the last 2 seasons when Tyko, Oso, Kam, Jop and Stevie were the alphas and the the others were late options in the offense. Kind of a carryover?
Yeah, we played hard last night.
Maybe we will start playing good as well.
Quote from: MU82 on December 31, 2025, 11:24:20 AMDidn't you think Marquette played hard last night? During which stretches did our players just coast?
Not trying to just nitpick. I seriously thought we played pretty hard, but I allow that I might have missed something.
Quote from: PointWarrior on December 31, 2025, 01:22:03 PMYeah, we played hard last night.
Maybe we will start playing good as well.
The last 7 minutes were hard to watch.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on December 31, 2025, 12:01:28 PMPlaying hard for AT LEAST 40 minutes a night is the bare minimum need for winning teams. It's very hard to do, but it's the bare minimum.
I thought we improved in that area last night but still wasn't a full 40 and the scoreboard showed it in the end.
Some stacked teams can give a half-assed effort and still win a lot. With MU's lack of talent, they need to be right on point for almost the entire game.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on December 31, 2025, 11:51:33 AMFor sure they played hard for much of the game. But not all of it. And really, the key in my original quote was "every game". Many times chase just stands around hoping others will create. I shouldn't single out Chase, it really goes for the entire team.
Thanks for the response.
I am usually pretty critical of what I see as slacking off or not giving full effort, and I can't think of any instances of guys not playing hard last night. Or even in most other games. But it's certainly possible I missed some examples.
Mostly, I just think we're not good enough, from our coach this season down to our 11th man.
Quote from: MU82 on December 31, 2025, 08:07:09 PMI am usually pretty critical of what I see as slacking off or not giving full effort, and I can't think of any instances of guys not playing hard last night. Or even in most other games. But it's certainly possible I missed some examples.
I've been focusing more on offensive effort (than I usually would) because we've been so awful.
Butler once again learning Big East play is no joke. Nova looking legit, they could be the third team from the BE in the Dance
Thank you Providence.
St John's melts down at MSG against Providence. They have no go to scorer other than Zuby in the post. No creators. Nova will the the second BE team in the tourney, not the third.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on January 03, 2026, 01:35:57 PMSt John's melts down at MSG against Providence. They have no go to scorer other than Zuby in the post. No creators. Nova will the the second BE team in the tourney, not the third.
Willard is a good coach. Not great. Doubt he ever makes a final four. But he has his vision and philosophy and sticks with it, and it's usually pretty effective.
Quote from: BM1090 on January 03, 2026, 01:55:17 PMWillard is a good coach. Not great. Doubt he ever makes a final four. But he has his vision and philosophy and sticks with it, and it's usually pretty effective.
?? Willard is at Nova.
Quote from: Nukem2 on January 03, 2026, 02:10:29 PM?? Willard is at Nova.
I know. The post I quoted was about Nova being the 2nd or 3rd best team in the BE
Quote from: BM1090 on January 03, 2026, 02:11:32 PMI know. The post I quoted was about Nova being the 2nd or 3rd best team in the BE
Read too fast. Focused on St. john's game
Meltdown at home not the word.
Zuby goes for 33 and 15, but leaves 9 points at the free throw line. Can't wait for Hamilton, Parham matchup.....
Three starters shoot 7 for 44 from the field. Not good, but have seen that from another team recently.
With the wins by Providence and DePaul, our alma mater is now the only winless team in the Big East.
But that changes tomorrow!
Quote from: MU82 on January 03, 2026, 04:13:51 PMWith the wins by Providence and DePaul, our alma mater is now the only winless team in the Big East.
But that changes tomorrow!
Penalty:This is an optimistic free zone. >:(
Quote from: WhiteTrash on January 03, 2026, 04:24:03 PMPenalty:This is an optimistic free zone. >:(
I admit - more sarcasm than optimism.
Still, upsets do happen. Seton Hall beat UConn last season. Providence just won at MSG.
Quote from: MU82 on January 03, 2026, 04:29:40 PMI admit - more sarcasm than optimism.
Still, upsets do happen. Seton Hall beat UConn last season. Providence just won at MSG.
45% 3pts, 55% from the field is maybe enough to overcome not playing defense?
Having watched a few mins of XU/DePaul, it sure looks we're the worst team in our conference. Our best chances for W's will be against those two teams at home, but I can't say I'm super confident that will happen. My guess is our ceiling is 4-16.....but astonishingly our floor is 0-20 unless we see a resurrection. :(
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 03, 2026, 04:57:50 PMHaving watched a few mins of XU/DePaul, it sure looks we're the worst team in our conference. Our best chances for W's will be against those two teams at home, but I can't say I'm super confident that will happen. My guess is our ceiling is 4-16.....but astonishingly our floor is 0-20 unless we see a resurrection. :(
It is notable that this the weakest BE since we joined.
Quote from: WhiteTrash on January 03, 2026, 05:55:13 PMIt is notable that this the weakest BE since we joined.
That's an important point. I can't even describe the depth of this horror show. Again, this is vastly different than having "a bad season".
Quote from: WhiteTrash on January 03, 2026, 05:55:13 PMIt is notable that this the weakest BE since we joined.
I think this is debatable. While there's a big, bad bottom, I think it's more that the teams expected to be good aren't while some of the teams expected to be bad aren't that bad (but people expect bad so haven't warmed to them yet).
UConn is a lock tourney team, but Villanova, Seton Hall, Creighton, and Butler have all shown flashes of being NCAA teams. I doubt all get there, but 2-3 is certainly possible. St. John's doesn't have a tourney resume so far, and the Baylor and Ole Miss wins are aging like milk, but they could still get off the mat. I think this is a probably a 3-bid league as it stands and 4-5 is still possible, it just won't be the 4-5 we thought it would be.
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 03, 2026, 07:47:17 PMI think this is debatable. While there's a big, bad bottom, I think it's more that the teams expected to be good aren't while some of the teams expected to be bad aren't that bad (but people expect bad so haven't warmed to them yet).
UConn is a lock tourney team, but Villanova, Seton Hall, Creighton, and Butler have all shown flashes of being NCAA teams. I doubt all get there, but 2-3 is certainly possible. St. John's doesn't have a tourney resume so far, and the Baylor and Ole Miss wins are aging like milk, but they could still get off the mat. I think this is a probably a 3-bid league as it stands and 4-5 is still possible, it just won't be the 4-5 we thought it would be.
Fair enough, a debatable worse BE in a long time. The past 3 years of MU teams would have had a very nice record this year. Also, if a frog had wings he wouldn't bump his ass on the ground. >:(
Quote from: WhiteTrash on January 03, 2026, 11:06:55 PMif a frog had wings he wouldn't bump his ass on the ground
A certainty, just ask penguins...
(https://archive.penguinscience.com/education/src/penguin_wings.jpg)
Quote from: rocky_warrior on January 03, 2026, 11:14:29 PMA certainty, just ask penguins...
(https://archive.penguinscience.com/education/src/penguin_wings.jpg)
Penguin meat joke in. 3, 2, 1...?.
Quote from: WhiteTrash on January 03, 2026, 11:20:21 PMPenguin meat joke in. 3, 2, 1...?.
Always frozen, never fresh?
"oh it's so hard to win on the road in the Big ___"... smh
Big Ten.. 50% home winners
Big 12.. 50%
Big East... 45%
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 03, 2026, 07:47:17 PMI think this is debatable. While there's a big, bad bottom, I think it's more that the teams expected to be good aren't while some of the teams expected to be bad aren't that bad (but people expect bad so haven't warmed to them yet).
UConn is a lock tourney team, but Villanova, Seton Hall, Creighton, and Butler have all shown flashes of being NCAA teams. I doubt all get there, but 2-3 is certainly possible. St. John's doesn't have a tourney resume so far, and the Baylor and Ole Miss wins are aging like milk, but they could still get off the mat. I think this is a probably a 3-bid league as it stands and 4-5 is still possible, it just won't be the 4-5 we thought it would be.
Butler has taken a step back after a nice non-conference season. Losing PG Jalen Johnson for the season was a blow. The freshman Robinson is showing flashes, but not enough so far, and Bizjack has been streaky as hell recently. Tomorrow is a must-win for them against St. John's at Hinkle. Frustration with Matta has returned.
I've been impressed with Nova. After shooting 1-12 from three in the first half they made 6 of their first 7 threes and shot 70% overall in the second half, dropping 55 points.
Creighton should have won the SH game and that choke job may haunt them come Selection Sunday.
It's cool that Bizjack Horseman is playing in the Big East.
Georgetown just lost at DePaul.
Georgetown made 1 singular shot in the second half...and we lost to them.
That's all we made, just one goddamn shot?
https://x.com/i/status/2008737854802047391
Hoyas caught Marquette-itis
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on January 06, 2026, 09:19:00 PMGeorgetown just lost at DePaul.
Georgetown made 1 singular shot in the second half...and we lost to them.
Sweet Jesus.
Hoyas 23.6% eFG% tonight. Worst in the KenPom area.
MU been worse only once -- 19.8% (unthinkable!) in the 52-35 toilet game vs. tOSU on 11/16/13. I think we were under 16% excluding Davante (who was only 3/6). The Buzz farewell tour had begun.
Good seats now available at Capital One Arena.
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 03, 2026, 07:47:17 PMI think this is debatable. While there's a big, bad bottom, I think it's more that the teams expected to be good aren't while some of the teams expected to be bad aren't that bad (but people expect bad so haven't warmed to them yet).
UConn is a lock tourney team, but Villanova, Seton Hall, Creighton, and Butler have all shown flashes of being NCAA teams. I doubt all get there, but 2-3 is certainly possible. St. John's doesn't have a tourney resume so far, and the Baylor and Ole Miss wins are aging like milk, but they could still get off the mat. I think this is a probably a 3-bid league as it stands and 4-5 is still possible, it just won't be the 4-5 we thought it would be.
The arrival of the gap. Reekers please solve this deplorable situation.
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 07, 2026, 12:06:56 AMHoyas 23.6% eFG% tonight. Worst in the KenPom area.
MU been worse only once -- 19.8% (unthinkable!) in the 52-35 toilet game vs. tOSU on 11/16/13. I think we were under 16% excluding Davante (who was only 3/6). The Buzz farewell tour had begun.
Back when Saint Louis only scored 20 points in a game against George Washington, they still made 3 and 4 field goals respectively in each half.
this should mean Gtown relegated to the A10
https://x.com/trillydonovan/status/2008739679236223482
Quote from: DFW HOYA on January 07, 2026, 01:03:34 AMGood seats now available at Capital One Arena.
Love it! Your ability to find humor in this is admirable. ;D
My wife and I have been regulars over many years at the MU/GT game at Capitol One, but I told her that I wonder if we should even bother this year. Courtside seats for $10 might be enough to tempt us to go.
Providence is pummeling UConn in the 1st half.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on January 07, 2026, 06:48:36 PMProvidence is pummeling UConn in the 1st half.
That's why games last
40 45 minutes.
Creighton is a little home cookin' in the final minute at SH from being 5-0 in conference play.
Quote from: MU82 on January 07, 2026, 10:07:19 PMThat's why games last 40 45 minutes.
The fact that they lost after this play put them up double digits with about 3 left, is wild! This is typically a dagger!
https://x.com/i/status/2009084084841271720
Seton Hall was down 18 to UConn but made it a 1-point game with less than 30 seconds left. UConn survives 69-64.
Quote from: K1 Lover on January 13, 2026, 09:12:54 PMSeton Hall was down 18 to UConn but made it a 1-point game with less than 30 seconds left. UConn survives 69-64.
Hopefully the Big East Gets 5 Teams in the Big Dance Again this year
Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on January 13, 2026, 09:15:34 PMHopefully the Big East Gets 5 Teams in the Big Dance Again this year
UConn and St. John's are locks. Nova and Seton Hall are looking like near locks. Creighton? We'll see.
Fortunately (or unfortunately), the gap between the top and bottom is so wide that there should be few upsets of the top teams as the season goes forward.
http://si.com/college-basketball/st-johns-parts-ways-with-mens-basketball-gm
a little turmoil in Queens
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on January 14, 2026, 07:46:13 AMUConn and St. John's are locks. Nova and Seton Hall are looking like near locks. Creighton? We'll see.
Fortunately (or unfortunately), the gap between the top and bottom is so wide that there should be few upsets of the top teams as the season goes forward.
I mean, our very-much-bottom-feeder team just missed a 3 at the buzzer to force Nova into OT even though we were playing without our injured starting center and our injured backup PG. We also had a late 5-point lead over Seton Hall. So aside from UConn, and probably St. John's, I'm not sure how wide the gap is.
Butler is establishing itself as a bottom-feeder with us, with a pathetic performance at X. Next week at Hinkle is definitely a winnable game. The pitchforks are out for Matta.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on January 14, 2026, 07:16:19 PMButler is establishing itself as a bottom-feeder with us, with a pathetic performance at X. Next week at Hinkle is definitely a winnable game. The pitchforks are out for Matta.
But they got Ajayi in the portal.
Quote from: wadesworld on January 14, 2026, 07:57:29 PMBut they got Ajayi in the portal.
he's one of the few guys who has shown up. 22 and 12 tonight. Their freshman PG was sick and he's only starting because their portal PG is out for the season.
Ajayi would look awesome in blue and gold.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on January 14, 2026, 08:00:16 PMhe's one of the few guys who has shown up. 22 and 12 tonight. Their freshman PG was sick and he's only starting because their portal PG is out for the season.
Ajayi would look awesome in blue and gold.
Not a traditional, so no
Ed Cooley after Georgetown's loss to UConn:
"There's a lot worse happening right now than Georgetown losing a basketball game... You know what we are? We're blessed. We're blessed to be 9-9, we're blessed to be 1-6 in the league. It could be a lot worse."
Quote from: CountryRoads on January 17, 2026, 05:12:49 PMEd Cooley after Georgetown's loss to UConn:
"There's a lot worse happening right now than Georgetown losing a basketball game... You know what we are? We're blessed. We're blessed to be 9-9, we're blessed to be 1-6 in the league. It could be a lot worse."
lol was just coming here to post this. Sounds like some people on this board
Quote from: CountryRoads on January 17, 2026, 05:12:49 PMEd Cooley after Georgetown's loss to UConn:
"There's a lot worse happening right now than Georgetown losing a basketball game... You know what we are? We're blessed. We're blessed to be 9-9, we're blessed to be 1-6 in the league. It could be a lot worse."
Sounds like a shot at MU. :(
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on January 14, 2026, 07:46:13 AMUConn and St. John's are locks. Nova and Seton Hall are looking like near locks. Creighton? We'll see.
Fortunately (or unfortunately), the gap between the top and bottom is so wide that there should be few upsets of the top teams as the season goes forward.
So Willard or Holloway for BECOY?
After losing ar MSG to Providence the Johnnies have won four in a row, theee on the road against Butler, Creighton, and tonight Nova. The roster is coming together.
Butler beat the Hall in NJ.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on January 17, 2026, 09:21:08 PMAfter losing ar MSG to Providence the Johnnies have won four in a row, theee on the road against Butler, Creighton, and tonight Nova. The roster is coming together.
And next on their schedule? Let's see.
Oh
crap!
Through January 19, the visiting team has won more games than the home team in BEast play.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on January 18, 2026, 08:01:50 AMAnd next on their schedule? Let's see.
Oh crap!
THIS didn't age well! ;D
There is UConn, and maybe St. John's. And then "the rest."
We have beaten 2 of the rest. And we had legit chances to beat 4 others ... and, as has been chronicled once or twice, we're not very good. It's just not a good league this season.
We'll have plenty more shots at victory; hopefully we'll make a few of them.
SJU and Butler overcoming large deficits at home and beginning to take control.
Brutal loss for X at Creighton.
Quote from: MU82 on January 22, 2026, 12:37:00 AMBrutal loss for X at Creighton.
The wonky bounce on the missed free throw that CU grabbed and put in the winning shot.
Then XU by some miracle inbounded completely across court for a legit tip into the basket that didn't drop.
The 2 foul outs hurt X the last minute.
Tough luck for X with no call on X drive, and then a really soft call to put CU on the line leading to the free throw, missed FT and winning shot. Despite all that, box out the shooter and its a W for X after getting crushed by Creighton at home.
the Ed Cooley experiment seems to be blowing up at Gtown. The dozens of Hoyas fans left seem to have completely turned on him.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on January 22, 2026, 10:51:13 AMthe Ed Cooley experiment seems to be blowing up at Gtown. The dozens of Hoyas fans left seem to have completely turned on him.
Not sure it is Cooley's fault. School is fine with being bum level.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on January 22, 2026, 10:51:13 AMthe Ed Cooley experiment seems to be blowing up at Gtown. The dozens of Hoyas fans left seem to have completely turned on him.
Georgetown's problems are not its coach, it is structural. You could bring in another coach tomorrow and without correcting the issues, he will fail.
Quote from: DFW HOYA on January 22, 2026, 01:00:17 PMGeorgetown's problems are not its coach, it is structural. You could bring in another coach tomorrow and without correcting the issues, he will fail.
Just a guess, but does DFW stand for Dallas Ft. Worth?
I'm curious as to whether you are in or near DC and attend the games. Not trying to be difficult-just asking.
What is it that Georgetown needs to do IF they want to revitalize the fan base? What are the "structural" issues?
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on January 22, 2026, 01:05:29 PMJust a guess, but does DFW stand for Dallas Ft. Worth?
I'm curious as to whether you are in or near DC and attend the games. Not trying to be difficult-just asking.
What is it that Georgetown needs to do IF they want to revitalize the fan base? What are the "structural" issues?
Spend money, not suck, better facilities.
https://x.com/Leb_Zeppelins/status/2014395573558821196
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on January 22, 2026, 02:57:57 PMhttps://x.com/Leb_Zeppelins/status/2014395573558821196
;D ;D ;D Thanks for not posting this in the morning. I would have spilled my coffee all over myself, I laughed so hard.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on January 22, 2026, 01:05:29 PMJust a guess, but does DFW stand for Dallas Ft. Worth?
I'm curious as to whether you are in or near DC and attend the games. Not trying to be difficult-just asking.
What is it that Georgetown needs to do IF they want to revitalize the fan base? What are the "structural" issues?
I am a Georgetown alumnus, but grew up and live in Dallas-Ft. Worth. I attend a couple of football and basketball games a year. If you think basketball games are frustrating, try FCS football.
The structural issues are varied but revolve around three orbits:
Organizational1. Men's basketball does not report through the Georgetown athletic department and thus is not directly managed by the athletic director. The head coach gets a lot of leverage to do what he wants before there is pushback.
Financial1. Georgetown's $17 million men's basketball budget is overweight. Georgetown's new president may have other ideas about this in 2026-27.
2. There are no significant ties to the private sector in Washington in the way of corporate promotions and sponsorships and they simply don't support the team as is the case at other schools.
3. Donor giving is way down, and the response was to institute surge pricing. A midcourt seat costs $67 to see DePaul next week, and as much as $262 for Villanova. Alumni see prices like this and walk away.
Experiential1. The University does not promote basketball as a priority among its alumni, students, or the local area. Its official social media and web site give it no attention, and away games are not marketed to out of town alumni. How many Georgetown fans do you see gathering at Fiserv every year?
2. The fan experience is as poor as any in the Big East, including Wintrust. Its relationship with Capital One Arena is a challenging one. Georgetown gets no revenue back from parking, from concessions, or suites--it is simply a six-figure rental for four hours, nothing more. Some games have drawn less than 2,000 actual people in the building, but the rent is fixed either way. However, there are no other facilities in Washington (outside of playing at other schools' arenas such as George Mason or the Univ. of Maryland) which could reasonably host Big East games, short of moving back on campus to a 2,000 seat gym built in 1951, essentially forfeiting revenue for better attended games. Georgetown is 10th of 11 in the Big East in attendance and would be 11th of 11th playing at home, given that the Georgetown campus has fewer than 40 surface parking spaces and relies on two underground garages of roughly 400 cars each. Think of it this way: the Al McGuire Center is roughly twice as large.
3. Georgetown increasingly attracts what I call an "angular" student, as opposed to being "well rounded". They are high-income, high SAT students (1480 to 1580) who are there primarily for internships and well paid job opportunities, and less about community and lifetime memories. If basketball is not a part of their college experience in 2026, they won't suddenly get interested in it at age 30 or 40, they're gone.
Basketball was a big part of my college experience as the sports editor of the campus newspaper and it's a priority all these years today. The fact is that Georgetown has lost probably 15-20 years of graduating classes who have no positive experience, either on their own or through the University itself. That manifests itself in fewer gifts to the University, fewer attendees at reunions, and far fewer people who are worried about a 15 point loss at Villanova. Many students, I would suspect, have no idea what Georgetown's record is this year, and fewer young alumni.
None of these problems are specific to Ed Cooley, and no one hates him. (This seems to be a Providence thing.) If Georgetown brings in another coach but does not address these problems, nothing changes and high level recruits do not want to come to places where nothing changes. That's Temple University football, playing every season before tens of thousands of empty seats at Lincoln Financial Field. Right now, that is where Georgetown University is.
https://brobible.com/sports/article/temple-football-lincoln-financial-field-crowd-fans/
Thank you for your response. Wow! This is really eye-opening, an autopsy of a school's team's self-inflicted destruction. One thing that I cannot understand...why bother hiring a guy like Cooley at his salary if there is no plan or willingness to turn things around? It seems to me that a coach from a mid-major would have been all that was needed.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on January 22, 2026, 08:55:53 PMThank you for your response. Wow! This is really eye-opening, an autopsy of a school's team's self-inflicted destruction. One thing that I cannot understand...why bother hiring a guy like Cooley at his salary if there is no plan or willingness to turn things around? It seems to me that a coach from a mid-major would have been all that was needed.
The former president would pay market rate. The next president likely won't.
It's a cautionary tale.
Georgetown as a Universoty can get away with neglecting basketball because, well, they're Georgetown.
Marquette on the other hand likely pays a huge penalty as an institution if mbb turns Gtown or DePaul. I wouldn't go as so far to say survival is threatened, but it would definitely because a very different type/tier of University.
Quote from: 1SE on January 22, 2026, 11:53:01 PMIt's a cautionary tale.
Georgetown as a Universoty can get away with neglecting basketball because, well, they're Georgetown.
Marquette on the other hand likely pays a huge penalty as an institution if mbb turns Gtown or DePaul. I wouldn't go as so far to say survival is threatened, but it would definitely because a very different type/tier of University.
Not just for Gtown but the entire conference albeit UCONN. The schools may have the financial resources, like St.John's with their billion dollar sugar daddy. The question like DFW just outlined is how many of the Big East school administrators are willing to spend it so they can compete for a national title and then realize the resources they do have will never be enough to compete with schools that have billionaire alumni and alumni bases that far exceed their own?
Quote from: 1SE on January 22, 2026, 11:53:01 PMIt's a cautionary tale.
Georgetown as a University can get away with neglecting basketball because, well, they're Georgetown. Marquette on the other hand likely pays a huge penalty as an institution if mbb turns Gtown or DePaul. I wouldn't go as so far to say survival is threatened, but it would definitely because a very different type/tier of University.
Men's basketball doesn't add a single student to Georgetown's enrollment: the class is full whether it's 5-25 or 25-5. Marquette, Butler, and especially Xavier need basketball to drive enrollment. (Tangentially, Georgetown is under an enrollment cap enforced by the city of Washington DC, so even if there was a groundswell of interest they couldn't admit any more.)
Quote from: DFW HOYA on January 23, 2026, 09:09:07 AMTangentially, Georgetown is under an enrollment cap enforced by the city of Washington DC, so even if there was a groundswell of interest they couldn't admit any more.
I never knew that. Is that just because of space constraints?
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 23, 2026, 09:21:41 AMI never knew that. Is that just because of space constraints?
Apparently there is no true specific cap. More of an interplay of zoning, development agreements and neighborhood concerns along with the space constraints.
Quote from: DFW HOYA on January 23, 2026, 09:09:07 AMMen's basketball doesn't add a single student to Georgetown's enrollment: the class is full whether it's 5-25 or 25-5. Marquette, Butler, and especially Xavier need basketball to drive enrollment. (Tangentially, Georgetown is under an enrollment cap enforced by the city of Washington DC, so even if there was a groundswell of interest they couldn't admit any more.)
So, theoretically, Milwaukee could impose a cap on Marquette?
Quote from: muwarrior69 on January 23, 2026, 10:03:27 AMSo, theoretically, Milwaukee could impose a cap on Marquette?
You need to find another hobby.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on January 23, 2026, 10:03:27 AMSo, theoretically, Milwaukee could impose a cap on Marquette?
D.C. has restrictions in terms of building height restrictions and the cost of land is significantly higher, so expanding likely isn't an easy option. If you can't go up, and you can't go up, there's really no room to grow. Milwaukee doesn't have those sorts of limitations as we've seen with Marquette's expanding footprint.
Quote from: Nukem2 on January 23, 2026, 10:00:20 AMApparently there is no true specific cap. More of an interplay of zoning, development agreements and neighborhood concerns along with the space constraints.
6,675. See page 16.
https://georgetown.app.box.com/s/i6ij3qaavvdbt3cgroy0ir0594obm01d
Quote from: DFW HOYA on January 23, 2026, 11:38:18 AM6,675. See page 16.
https://georgetown.app.box.com/s/i6ij3qaavvdbt3cgroy0ir0594obm01d
Sounds consistent with what I found. The cap was adapted internally to allow greater on campus student residences in response to the various external factors such as zoning and development agreements as opposed to a specific cap enforced by the city?
Quote from: DFW HOYA on January 23, 2026, 11:38:18 AM6,675. See page 16.
https://georgetown.app.box.com/s/i6ij3qaavvdbt3cgroy0ir0594obm01d
The references to increasing the number of graduate students and the other stated academic goals helps me understand why Georgetown seems willing to let the basketball program continue to be low priority. I want to quickly add that I am
not agreeing with it.
Georgetown's attitude translates into the loss of a market where the BE could really benefit from exposure with a solid team.
How many years left on Cooley's contract? Any possibility that the administration might then decide to go down to mid-major status? Then they could play on campus after the Capitol One contract expires.
Game times are changing on Saturday and some games on Sunday are moving because of the incoming storm.
Quote from: DFW HOYA on January 23, 2026, 09:09:07 AMMen's basketball doesn't add a single student to Georgetown's enrollment: the class is full whether it's 5-25 or 25-5. Marquette, Butler, and especially Xavier need basketball to drive enrollment. (Tangentially, Georgetown is under an enrollment cap enforced by the city of Washington DC, so even if there was a groundswell of interest they couldn't admit any more.)
history, pedigree...I'd like to think MU is not Butler. I'm sure enrollment #'s are up when MU is good...but I doubt enrollment takes a serious hit (just guessing, not looking up #'s) when MU is as we are currently.
Quote from: Viper on January 23, 2026, 03:05:44 PMhistory, pedigree...I'd like to think MU is not Butler. I'm sure enrollment #'s are up when MU is good...but I doubt enrollment takes a serious hit (just guessing, not looking up #'s) when MU is as we are currently.
Sustained years and I think they would deffo take a hit. Basketball is pretty much the only thing that makes MU a national brand.
Quote from: DFW HOYA on January 22, 2026, 08:40:20 PMI am a Georgetown alumnus, but grew up and live in Dallas-Ft. Worth. I attend a couple of football and basketball games a year. If you think basketball games are frustrating, try FCS football.
The structural issues are varied but revolve around three orbits:
Organizational
1. Men's basketball does not report through the Georgetown athletic department and thus is not directly managed by the athletic director. The head coach gets a lot of leverage to do what he wants before there is pushback.
Financial
1. Georgetown's $17 million men's basketball budget is overweight. Georgetown's new president may have other ideas about this in 2026-27.
2. There are no significant ties to the private sector in Washington in the way of corporate promotions and sponsorships and they simply don't support the team as is the case at other schools.
3. Donor giving is way down, and the response was to institute surge pricing. A midcourt seat costs $67 to see DePaul next week, and as much as $262 for Villanova. Alumni see prices like this and walk away.
Experiential
1. The University does not promote basketball as a priority among its alumni, students, or the local area. Its official social media and web site give it no attention, and away games are not marketed to out of town alumni. How many Georgetown fans do you see gathering at Fiserv every year?
2. The fan experience is as poor as any in the Big East, including Wintrust. Its relationship with Capital One Arena is a challenging one. Georgetown gets no revenue back from parking, from concessions, or suites--it is simply a six-figure rental for four hours, nothing more. Some games have drawn less than 2,000 actual people in the building, but the rent is fixed either way. However, there are no other facilities in Washington (outside of playing at other schools' arenas such as George Mason or the Univ. of Maryland) which could reasonably host Big East games, short of moving back on campus to a 2,000 seat gym built in 1951, essentially forfeiting revenue for better attended games. Georgetown is 10th of 11 in the Big East in attendance and would be 11th of 11th playing at home, given that the Georgetown campus has fewer than 40 surface parking spaces and relies on two underground garages of roughly 400 cars each. Think of it this way: the Al McGuire Center is roughly twice as large.
3. Georgetown increasingly attracts what I call an "angular" student, as opposed to being "well rounded". They are high-income, high SAT students (1480 to 1580) who are there primarily for internships and well paid job opportunities, and less about community and lifetime memories. If basketball is not a part of their college experience in 2026, they won't suddenly get interested in it at age 30 or 40, they're gone.
Basketball was a big part of my college experience as the sports editor of the campus newspaper and it's a priority all these years today. The fact is that Georgetown has lost probably 15-20 years of graduating classes who have no positive experience, either on their own or through the University itself. That manifests itself in fewer gifts to the University, fewer attendees at reunions, and far fewer people who are worried about a 15 point loss at Villanova. Many students, I would suspect, have no idea what Georgetown's record is this year, and fewer young alumni.
None of these problems are specific to Ed Cooley, and no one hates him. (This seems to be a Providence thing.) If Georgetown brings in another coach but does not address these problems, nothing changes and high level recruits do not want to come to places where nothing changes. That's Temple University football, playing every season before tens of thousands of empty seats at Lincoln Financial Field. Right now, that is where Georgetown University is.
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really nice summary, thx for posting. I lived in DC (Silver Spring, MD) as a kid. Gtown wasn't a national power then...it was all Lefty Driesell and MD. But, John Thompson got it rollin' w/ Patrick Ewing (imagine if Ewing came to Marquette? I heard Majerus was close to getting him...how things might have been different), and I never thought I'd see that program (Gtown) stumble as it has over the past 6, 7 seasons. Praying MU isn't on that train. Assuming you are also an alum of Marquette or have connections to MU?
Nova hanging tough with UCONN despite being undersized. Both of these teams play with waty more physicality than we do.
Wow. Nova with a real shot. Although that looked like a moving screen.
Gtown outscored PC by 21 in the second half for their second conference win of the season.
Time to dust off the resume, Kim
Damn freaking Conn going 20-0
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on January 24, 2026, 01:49:22 PMGtown outscored PC by 21 in the second half for their second conference win of the season.
Time to dust off the resume, Kim
That's brutal. Hard to imagine he's still around next year.
Quote from: Johnny B on January 24, 2026, 02:01:15 PMDamn freaking Conn going 20-0
Saw more defense from those teams in the second half than MU has shown all season.
The Big East is having some intense games across the board today. Richard Pitino was up by 16 on his dad but St. John's is now in the lead.
Quote from: mileskishnish72 on January 24, 2026, 02:11:47 PMSaw more defense from those teams in the second half than MU has shown all season.
As well has hustle plays like diving on the floor for loose balls.
And thr Johnnies with a clutch win at X. UConn, Johnnies, then everyone else in the BE.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on January 24, 2026, 01:49:22 PMGtown outscored PC by 21 in the second half for their second conference win of the season.
Time to dust off the resume, Kim
For a Georgetown team that shot 1 for 23 in the second half versus DePaul, it finished the last 13 minutes shooting 16 for 20 against the PC defense.
DePaul dumps the Hall. This is why I stated we should cool our jets about Shaheen and The Pirates.
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 24, 2026, 06:59:08 PMDePaul dumps the Hall. This is why I stated we should cool our jets about Shaheen and The Pirates.
Hopefully we can keep pace with DePaul in the Big East standings
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on January 24, 2026, 07:21:26 PMHopefully we can keep pace with DePaul in the Big East standings
It's probably doubtful Billy.
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 24, 2026, 07:34:15 PMIt's probably doubtful Billy.
Yeah, we should just focus on not falling behind Georgetown or Providence at this point. RGV..
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on January 24, 2026, 07:43:11 PMYeah, we should just focus on not falling behind Georgetown or Providence at this point. RGV..
Ya....I think 4 wins is our ceiling.
:(
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 24, 2026, 06:59:08 PMDePaul dumps the Hall. This is why I stated we should cool our jets about Shaheen and The Pirates.
Theyre very inconsistent. look good one day, and trash the next. Them losing to Depaul and ST johns nearly losing to crappy X.. looking like 3 big league.
Quote from: Johnny B on January 24, 2026, 09:30:17 PMTheyre very inconsistent. look good one day, and trash the next. Them losing to Depaul and ST johns nearly losing to crappy X.. looking like 3 big league.
Three? It's UConn, St John's and the rest.
Nova will nake the tourney as an 8 or lower seed, maybe Creighton. We'll see if SH can recover. Big four game stretch for Butler's chances, otherwise that's it
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on January 24, 2026, 09:33:41 PMThree? It's UConn, St John's and the rest.
Nova will nake the tourney as an 8 or lower seed, maybe Creighton. We'll see if SH can recover. Big four game stretch for Butler's chances, otherwise that's it
Nova looks better than St.John's.
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 24, 2026, 10:38:58 PMNova looks better than St.John's.
Then again, Nova lost at home to St. John's a week ago.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on January 24, 2026, 02:45:17 PMAs well has hustle plays like diving on the floor for loose balls.
And thr Johnnies with a clutch win at X. UConn, Johnnies, then everyone else in the BE.
The gap widens.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on January 24, 2026, 07:43:11 PMYeah, we should just focus on not falling behind Georgetown or Providence at this point. RGV..
We are already behind Georgetown and Providence "at this point."
It's a good laugh reading Twitter and all of the Providence fans who legitimately think they're going to get Schertz from SLU.
Last Year in 2025 THE BIG EAST at 5/11 Teams making The Big Dance had the 2nd Best Percentage of Teams making The Big Dance of any conference outside of the SEC. Edging out all the other conferences.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on January 28, 2026, 08:11:17 AMIt's a good laugh reading Twitter and all of the Providence fans who legitimately think they're going to get Schertz from SLU.
My secret sources tell me that they are working with Cooley to get him back. All will be forgiven.
Watching Georgetown at DePaul - I think there are 27 people at the game
Quote from: MU1in77 on January 28, 2026, 08:45:20 PMWatching Georgetown at DePaul - I think there are 27 people at the game
Sorry meant DePaul at Georgetown
Quote from: MU1in77 on January 28, 2026, 08:45:20 PMWatching Georgetown at DePaul - I think there are 27 people at the game
Announced crowd was 3,422.
Quote from: DFW HOYA on January 28, 2026, 09:47:18 PMAnnounced crowd was 3,422.
Glad you started with the word "announced". ;D
I feel for you man. It's got to really hurt deeply when you see what your alma mater has done to the basketball program. ::) ?-(
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on January 28, 2026, 09:44:45 AMMy secret sources tell me that they are working with Cooley to get him back. All will be forgiven.
On two separate occasions late in the game, the PBP guy (Chris Vosters) referred to Georgetown as "Providence." Cooley on his brain, I guess.
Is Ed Cooley on the hot seat? Georgetown is so stuck.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on January 29, 2026, 06:16:36 PMIs Ed Cooley on the hot seat? Georgetown is so stuck.
I guess I have to learn how to use the teal feature here.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on January 29, 2026, 06:16:36 PMIs Ed Cooley on the hot seat? Georgetown is so stuck.
Read DFWHoya's stuff.
Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on January 28, 2026, 09:39:43 AMLast Year in 2025 THE BIG EAST at 5/11 Teams making The Big Dance had the 2nd Best Percentage of Teams making The Big Dance of any conference outside of the SEC. Edging out all the other conferences.
Broke Down 2025 NCAA Tournament by Pecentage
1 SEC
2 Big East 5/11 46% of Teams made the Big Dance
3 Big 10 8/18 44% of Teams made the Big Dance
4 Big 12 7/16 43% of Teams made the Big Dance
5 ACC 4/18 22% of Teams made the Big Dance
UCONN won the 2024 and 2023 NCAA Tournaments
UCONN is bludgeoning Creighton in Omaha.
Xavier ended the game on a 17-3 Run to Win by 2 Over DePaul 68-66
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 31, 2026, 08:28:55 PMUCONN is bludgeoning Creighton in Omaha.
might be Hurley's best team. Stacked!
Quote from: Viper on January 31, 2026, 09:06:03 PMmight be Hurley's best team. Stacked!
They're dangerous if Ball & Caraban start hitting threes at a decent clip.
One week ago Butler was feeling good about tourney chances as a bubble team and saw the next four games as make or break. They're 0-2 after a brutal home loss to Georgetown. The bubble burst.
Hurley's UCONN team won all their Big Dance games in 2024 by double digits correct. This team is close to that team. But Michigan Arizona and Nebraska are pretty decent too this year and the Portal is more important and prevalent in 2026.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on January 31, 2026, 10:15:56 PMOne week ago Butler was feeling good about tourney chances as a bubble team and saw the next four games as make or break. They're 0-2 after a brutal home loss to Georgetown. The bubble burst.
It'll really be sad for the Butlers after they lose Saturday on National Marquette Day.
I think we broke Creighton.
some sad news, the mother of Creighton's Josh Dix passed away from cancer before yesterday's game.
I hope we are picked 9th to finish in the Big East next season.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on February 05, 2026, 05:30:44 PMsome sad news, the mother of Creighton's Josh Dix passed away from cancer before yesterday's game.
What a gut punch. My father died suddenly between my Junior and Senior years at Marquette. So many decades ago, but it still really hurts. It is probably a good guess that's why he transferred "home" to Creighton. Scoopers who are 50+ know that the parents' days are likely very numbered, but when you are a college student? Nope.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on February 06, 2026, 10:42:32 AMWhat a gut punch. My father died suddenly between my Junior and Senior years at Marquette. So many decades ago, but it still really hurts. It is probably a good guess that's why he transferred "home" to Creighton. Scoopers who are 50+ know that the parents' days are likely very numbered, but when you are a college student? Nope.
Sorry to hear that.
Quote from: MU82 on February 01, 2026, 07:49:15 PMIt'll really be sad for the Butlers after they lose Saturday on National Marquette Day.
We should be favored and should be able to come out and enforce our will immediately after the gutwrenching way Butler lost on Tuesday. Bizjack, an 86% FT shooter and 12/12 on the night, bricked two free throws with 1 second left and the game tied. Then in the first OT, Ajayi missed one that would have given Butler the lead with 12 seconds left. I thought I saw the souls of the entire team leave their bodies at the start of the second OT.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on February 06, 2026, 01:25:45 PMWe should be favored and should be able to come out and enforce our will immediately after the gutwrenching way Butler lost on Tuesday. Bizjack, an 86% FT shooter and 12/12 on the night, bricked two free throws with 1 second left and the game tied. Then in the first OT, Ajayi missed one that would have given Butler the lead with 12 seconds left. I thought I saw the souls of the entire team leave their bodies at the start of the second OT.
My thoughts exactly (although I
did miss the souls leaving the body part) as I watched what to any Butler fan was an absolute horror show. The double OT hopefully leaves them still achy tomorrow (probably not, but I can hope, right?). I actually felt sorry for Bizjack after such a great game, blowing the FTs, but will not tomorrow.
SJU/Uconn very entertaining so far.
Quote from: Johnny B on February 06, 2026, 07:44:58 PMSJU/Uconn very entertaining so far.
Heck of a ballgame. I still think St.J won't do squat in the tournament.
Turns are killing UCONN. St.J also gets away with a lot of "physicality" aka fouling.
Fun game, awesome atmosphere. Hope we can start competing with these teams in the near future.
Quote from: CountryRoads on February 06, 2026, 09:15:50 PMFun game, awesome atmosphere. Hope we can start competing with these teams in the near future.
We need to get there. But it's totally doable. It starts with a dominant big in the portal imo.
Quote from: MuggsyB on February 06, 2026, 09:02:36 PMSt.J also gets away with a lot of "physicality" aka fouling.
You have said these
many times about SJU. So how do you explain how they "get away with a lot"? Why do the refs not call the fouls you claim to see?
Quote from: MuggsyB on February 06, 2026, 09:23:25 PMWe need to get there. But it's totally doable. It starts with a dominant big in the portal imo.
Agree. I'll settle for bigs that have at least one other D1 offer.
Can MU get back to the level of UCONN and SJU ? Idk ... maybe
Right now MU is way ... WAY behind them.
Other than James, do we have one guy that would see the floor for either of those teams ? I'd say No.
The way Shaka has tanked the program in a year and a half is unbelievable.
Quote from: Mu8891 on February 06, 2026, 09:31:53 PMCan MU get back to the level of UCONN and SJU ? Idk ... maybe
Right now MU is way ... WAY behind them.
Other than James, do we have one guy that would see the floor for either of those teams ? I'd say No.
The way Shaka has tanked the program in a year and a half is unbelievable.
Our strategy has to change and I do think Shaka will pivot. We have Nigel and 4 additional keepers. I definitely like the potential of our Frosh. But, it's a moral imperative to get a badass big and a deadeye 6'4 or more sniper. I've said this for some time, so hopefully my thoughts move us in the right direction. :)
Quote from: Mu8891 on February 06, 2026, 09:31:53 PMCan MU get back to the level of UCONN and SJU ? Idk ... maybe
Right now MU is way ... WAY behind them.
Other than James, do we have one guy that would see the floor for either of those teams ? I'd say No.
The way Shaka has tanked the program in a year and a half is unbelievable.
Uconns bench had 6 points. Ross and Parham would get significant mins of the bench for both.
Quote from: MuggsyB on February 06, 2026, 09:23:25 PMWe need to get there. But it's totally doable. It starts with a dominant big in the portal imo.
Which dominant big men helped us get the best of UConn and St. John's in 2023?
Quote from: MU82 on February 06, 2026, 10:21:00 PMWhich dominant big men helped us get the best of UConn and St. John's in 2023?
Oso was pretty damn good. Well...until the dance. :(
Quote from: MuggsyB on February 06, 2026, 10:35:48 PMOso was pretty damn good. Well...until the dance. :(
I don't think he's the kind of "dominant big" most here yearn for. It's Shaq Or Bust round these parts.
Quote from: MU82 on February 06, 2026, 11:39:51 PMI don't think he's the kind of "dominant big" most here yearn for. It's Shaq Or Bust round these parts.
Fair point. I'd like total dominance ...meaning a Shaq with Curry's handles and J. But another Oso would suffice. We cannot under any circumstances field another roster with two project 5's.
Creighton ends the game on a 11-1 run to shock Seton Hall by 1. Seton Hall was outscored 25-9 down the stretch.
https://x.com/i/status/2020304874177786140
Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on February 07, 2026, 07:12:08 PMCreighton ends the game on a 11-1 run to shock Seton Hall by 1. Seton Hall was outscored 25-9 down the stretch.
https://x.com/i/status/2020304874177786140
Three bid league
Big East tourney... top 3 are set. CU and SH should be 4 and 5... maybe slightly shaky on SH, but this is the most set I recall the top 5 being at this point on the calendar. I think we know the six playing on day 1.
Who do we want to play Wednesday? It's very possible we'll see a multi-team tie-breaker scenario with many teams having the same crappy record. The 11 seed actually may look like the best path for us.. play the 6, which will be a bad team, then play the 3, which would likely be Nova and not StJ or UCONN. MU vs. St. John's on Friday night will be a thriller!
https://www.bigeast.com/documents/2025/2/18//tiebreakers.pdf
Or get hot and be the 6 seed.
Quote from: tower912 on February 08, 2026, 12:16:00 PMOr get hot and be the 6 seed.
I can't believe I'm typing this, but Gtown has a damn good chance to be 5th or 6th. Creighton has home v. Nova, @UConn and
@ST. John's coming up, that's 1-2 at best, and the potential to completely send their season off the rails as happened to Butler after the played at UConn
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on February 08, 2026, 12:26:28 PMI can't believe I'm typing this, but Gtown has a damn good chance to be 5th or 6th. Creighton has home v. Nova, @UConn and @ST. John's coming up, that's 1-2 at best, and the potential to completely send their season off the rails as happened to Butler after the played at UConn
4-11 are nowhere closed to being settled. MU could make an emphatic move!
We're only a game out of 6th. Might as well make a run at it.
Quote from: BM1090 on February 08, 2026, 01:09:55 PMWe're only a game out of 6th. Might as well make a run at it.
Idk.
If we take 6th our season ends Thursday instead of Wednesday. I'm almost tempted to say I'd rather just get this over with ASAP.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 08, 2026, 02:19:24 PMIdk.
If we take 6th our season ends Thursday instead of Wednesday. I'm almost tempted to say I'd rather just get this over with ASAP.
Silliness.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 08, 2026, 02:19:24 PMIdk.
If we take 6th our season ends Thursday instead of Wednesday. I'm almost tempted to say I'd rather just get this over with ASAP.
That is dumb. Every practice, every game, is an opportunity for growth and development. Two games at MSG is better than one. 3 is better than 2.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 08, 2026, 02:19:24 PMIdk.
If we take 6th our season ends Thursday instead of Wednesday. I'm almost tempted to say I'd rather just get this over with ASAP.
Dumb. And even if we get 11th we can still win Wednesday. We've already beaten the teams in 4th, 6th, and two tied with us for 8th.
Beat X, Georgetown, DePaul and Providence, pretty good chance MU finishes 6th.
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Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 08, 2026, 02:19:24 PMIdk.
If we take 6th our season ends Thursday instead of Wednesday. I'm almost tempted to say I'd rather just get this over with ASAP.
Loser sh*t
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 08, 2026, 02:19:24 PMIdk.
If we take 6th our season ends Thursday instead of Wednesday. I'm almost tempted to say I'd rather just get this over with ASAP.
Of course you would.
Quote from: tower912 on February 08, 2026, 02:43:32 PMThat is dumb. Every practice, every game, is an opportunity for growth and development. Two games at MSG is better than one. 3 is better than 2.
Still making my silly prediction of a Beast tournament win.
Because if Gtown can do it in 2021, we can do it this year.
Quote from: JakeBarnes on February 08, 2026, 04:55:52 PMStill making my silly prediction of a Beast tournament win.
Because if Gtown can do it in 2021, we can do it this year.
There was no this year's UCONN in that version of the BE.
X not exactly getting a good whistle at MSG.
Poor execution from X with a chance to win in regulation.
Quote from: MuggsyB on February 09, 2026, 07:31:25 PMX not exactly getting a good whistle at MSG.
Nobody does.
Quote from: wadesworld on February 08, 2026, 04:28:17 PMOf course you would.
Lol.
The less chance for someone to get hurt, the better at this point, but it would be fun to see them make a run at MSG. They'll probably be an underdog in every game at MSG, but St. Johns and UConn are the only 2 teams I really give them 0 chance to win. Who knows, maybe they could make some noise!
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 09, 2026, 08:57:31 PMLol.
The less chance for someone to get hurt, the better at this point, but it would be fun to see them make a run at MSG. They'll probably be an underdog in every game at MSG, but St. Johns and UConn are the only 2 teams I really give them 0 chance to win. Who knows, maybe they could make some noise!
The less chances to get hurt the better? wtf are you talking about? This stuff you post is so weird.
Wouldn't want our guys to sprain an ankle in a meaningless Big East Tournament game when we have a game...in 7 months?
"I hope we lose first round!"
But also, "it would be fun to make a run!"
Quote from: wadesworld on February 09, 2026, 09:04:19 PMThe less chances to get hurt the better? wtf are you talking about? This stuff you post is so weird.
Wouldn't want our guys to sprain an ankle in a meaningless Big East Tournament game when we have a game...in 7 months?
"I hope we lose first round!"
But also, "it would be fun to make a run!"
😂
Put this on the wrong thread
Adrien Stevens made The Fanta Five
John Fanta's Stars Of The Week
Azavier Robinson is out for the year for Butler. Had a solid Freshman season going.
Needs wrist surgery.
Got to conserve our energy to battle Radford next year.
Quote from: wadesworld on February 09, 2026, 09:04:19 PMThe less chances to get hurt the better? wtf are you talking about? This stuff you post is so weird.
Wouldn't want our guys to sprain an ankle in a meaningless Big East Tournament game when we have a game...in 7 months?
"I hope we lose first round!"
But also, "it would be fun to make a run!"
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 10, 2026, 07:02:30 AMAzavier Robinson is out for the year for Butler. Had a solid Freshman season going.
Needs wrist surgery.
and he came in to backup Jalen Johnson, Butler's big portal signing, who was shut down in December for ankle surgery. I wonder if Thad will use this to beg for one more year.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on February 10, 2026, 08:17:51 AMand he came in to backup Jalen Johnson, Butler's big portal signing, who was shut down in December for ankle surgery. I wonder if Thad will use this to beg for one more year.
I doubt it. I think both of those parties are probably ready to move on. I think I read the other day (and don't care enough to look up) that Butler hasn't made the dance since like 2018. It's getting to be a long time for them.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 10, 2026, 09:38:07 AMI doubt it. I think both of those parties are probably ready to move on. I think I read the other day (and don't care enough to look up) that Butler hasn't made the dance since like 2018. It's getting to be a long time for them.
They would have made it in 2020, but yeah, the fans are fed up.
Now to see how they handle it. The feeling is that the whole "Butler Way" mantra will lead them to target only coaches with Butler ties (Travis Steele is one). Wardle's name was a hot one last year if Thad had been let go (the AD, while a Butler grad, has MU ties, which made sense as to why Wardle would be considered).
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 10, 2026, 09:38:07 AMI think I read the other day (and don't care enough to look up) that Butler hasn't made the dance since like 2018. It's getting to be a long time for them.
DePaul hasn't made an at-large since 2004, Georgetown 2015. Before you know it, it becomes commonplace.
Quote from: DFW HOYA on February 10, 2026, 01:09:29 PMDePaul hasn't made an at-large since 2004, Georgetown 2015. Before you know it, it becomes commonplace.
You're scaring me DFW. You're scaring me. ;D
Quote from: DFW HOYA on February 10, 2026, 01:09:29 PMDePaul hasn't made an at-large since 2004, Georgetown 2015. Before you know it, it becomes commonplace.
I've got some great new for you.
I will be at the MU @ Georgetown game
You should make the trip. It's good for the program to increase those attendance #s
I'll promote you for GM
when it rains it pours for Butler. Jackson, Robinson, and now Blue IV out for the season:
https://x.com/TheButlerBlue/status/2021577659218567474
Quote from: DoctorV on February 10, 2026, 10:18:39 PMI've got some great new for you.
I will be at the MU @ Georgetown game
You should make the trip. It's good for the program to increase those attendance #s
I'll promote you for GM
My wife and I will be there. I'm smuggling a bat in my pocket to release if we are close at the end of the game. Imagine Ed hiding under the scorers' table.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on February 11, 2026, 10:52:28 AMwhen it rains it pours for Butler. Jackson, Robinson, and now Blue IV out for the season:
He is obviously "dog tired" in the photo. There is a word for the splaying out of all four legs as seen in the photo. It's "splooting". Great word!
Our Beagle would sploot after chasing a rabbit. When she splooted, I swear I could hear the rabbit laughing its little cottontail off.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on February 11, 2026, 12:59:18 PMHe is obviously "dog tired" in the photo. There is a word for the splaying out of all four legs as seen in the photo. It's "splooting". Great word!
Our Beagle would sploot after chasing a rabbit. When she splooted, I swear I could hear the rabbit laughing its little cottontail off.
I do enjoy seeing Blue in his car during games (he was in an Indy car for the MU game). That must tire him out...and having to watch the product Butler has put on the floor recently. A home loss to Georgetown will exhaust any canine to the point he says, I'm done!
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#PukeAndRally
UCONN will probably end up winning this game, but I'm not sure they're built for a deep run. Their defense has been awful.
Quote from: MuggsyB on February 11, 2026, 08:13:53 PMUCONN will probably end up winning this game, but I'm not sure they're built for a deep run. Their defense has been awful.
I really don't think their team is that good. St. Johns is probably better suited for a deep run but their guards are very hit or miss, and more often miss.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 11, 2026, 08:15:15 PMI really don't think their team is that good. St. Johns is probably better suited for a deep run but their guards are very hit or miss, and more often miss.
Perhaps they read my post. :)
UCONN is by far best equipped for a deep run. We've seen what happens to St. John's in the Tournament. They've been allowed to play football for 3 months and then can't adjust when basketball games are reffed like a basketball game.
Quote from: MuggsyB on February 11, 2026, 08:21:13 PMPerhaps they read my post. :)
EVERYBODY reads your posts Muggsy. Mostly just for laughs, but everybody reads them.
DePaul pride
Powell for Providence might be suspended for awhile.
Powell still being on the floor is absurd. He was already ejected with a F2.
This crap and thuggery will push back out game like an hour. Smh.
Quote from: MuggsyB on February 14, 2026, 01:32:53 PMThis crap and thuggery will push back out game like an hour. Smh.
Be prepared for it to start on TruTV
6 Ejections so far....
Two class teams....LOL....
One of the starters for St. John's will be suspended for our game.....
Quote from: burger on February 14, 2026, 01:46:51 PM6 Ejections so far....
Two class teams....LOL....
One of the starters for St. John's will be suspended for our game.....
Big East basketball. I like it!
MU could use a little of that type of fight.
https://x.com/i/status/2022755396478214397
If it is MU, the original foul would have been called a charge.
Quote from: tower912 on February 14, 2026, 01:53:28 PMIf it is MU, the original foul would have been called a charge.
If it was MU, Hamilton would have tried a hookshot at 10' out.
Lots of thuggery imo. And it's also prevalent at that dump arena in Providence.
Quote from: WhiteTrash on February 14, 2026, 01:49:18 PMBig East basketball. I like it!
MU could use a little of that type of fight.
Pass.
Quote from: MuggsyB on February 14, 2026, 01:59:02 PMLots of thuggery imo. And it's also prevalent at that dunp arena in Providence.
Lighten up Francis.
Quote from: wadesworld on February 14, 2026, 02:05:07 PMPass.
Check out women's lacrosse, might be more your speed.
Quote from: WhiteTrash on February 14, 2026, 02:10:24 PMCheck out women's lacrosse, might be more your speed.
I'm good with men's basketball. Thanks for the suggestion though.
Uhhhh....here's another ejection on a push.
Quote from: MuggsyB on February 14, 2026, 01:59:02 PMLots of thuggery imo. And it's also prevalent at that dump arena in Providence.
Wait
just...
a... minute. Aren't you the guy who has called for Marquette to "step on their throats, disembowel them, throttle them, go full Medieval"? And
you accuse PC of "thuggery"? ::)
You're right about that place being a dump though. I'll give you that.
Quote from: burger on February 14, 2026, 01:46:51 PMOne of the starters for St. John's will be suspended for our game.....
Incorrect (I think).The only (immediate) suspension for fighting was Powell with PC.
https://x.com/TheAndyKatz/status/2022814079971188826/photo/1
Quote from: DFW HOYA on February 14, 2026, 06:43:03 PMhttps://x.com/TheAndyKatz/status/2022814079971188826/photo/1
He needs a couple more tats.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on February 14, 2026, 04:23:49 PMWait just... a... minute. Aren't you the guy who has called for Marquette to "step on their throats, disembowel them, throttle them, go full Medieval"? And you accuse PC of "thuggery"? ::)
You're right about that place being a dump though. I'll give you that.
These are metaphorical phrases. Completely different than actually thuggery.
Quote from: MuggsyB on February 15, 2026, 10:42:09 AMThese are metaphorical phrases. Completely different than actually thuggery.
Oh, I know. Just pulling your chain Muggsy. ;D
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on February 15, 2026, 10:43:40 AMOh, I know. Just pulling your chain Muggsy. ;D
I'm surprised I haven't read about any fan arrests after that game. I would think there were some. I will say I've always wanted an enforcer type guy on MU whose presence nips thuggery in the bud.
Bizjack not playing against SHU.
Clearly saving himself for MU.
Does St. John's have any suspensions? Read that Powell got two extra games in addition to his automatic one for being ejected for fighting.
Quote from: MUDPT on February 15, 2026, 08:17:56 PMDoes St. John's have any suspensions? Read that Powell got two extra games in addition to his automatic one for being ejected for fighting.
Raising his hands and looking for an ovation after close-lining another player.....Even if it was Hopkins....Surely did not help....
Pretty much your next Providence Pud.....Who was that center from a year or two back....Same idiot....Different year....
Quote from: burger on February 15, 2026, 08:55:31 PMRaising his hands and looking for an ovation after close-lining another player.....Even if it was Hopkins....Surely did not help....
Pretty much your next Providence Pud.....Who was that center from a year or two back....Same idiot....Different year....
Oduro.
Total pos.
X and Nova in ot.
Xavier Villanova are in overtime
Villanova 83 Xavier 83
Villanova 86 Xavier 83 2:41 in OT left
Nova 88 X 86 43.7 left in ot
34.2 left
90 v 89 X 9.1 left
Villanova 91 Xavier 89
Xavier threw it away
Tre Carrol just chucked the game away on an errant pass.
Final Villanova 92 Xavier 89
Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on February 17, 2026, 07:48:04 PMTre Carrol just chucked the game away on an errant pass.
Sort of like MU final shots this year. Whoops.... But great game to watch
Glad Shaka said he will "evolve" with portal.
NOVA with 5 starters consisting of four portals and a Top 20 recruit.
X with 5 starters consisting of five portals.
Quote from: nyg on February 17, 2026, 07:52:28 PMSort of like MU final shots this year. Whoops.... But great game to watch
Glad Shaka said he will "evolve" with portal.
NOVA with 5 starters consisting of four portals and a Top 20 recruit.
X with 5 starters consisting of five portals.
And one team is awful, the other is mid.
Quote from: nyg on February 17, 2026, 07:52:28 PMGlad Shaka said he will "evolve" with portal.
He said what now?
Quote from: wadesworld on February 17, 2026, 08:58:03 PMAnd one team is awful, the other is mid.
If MU were 21-5 I doubt you'd be calling them "mid".
Quote from: mileskishnish72 on February 18, 2026, 07:59:35 AMIf MU were 21-5 I doubt you'd be calling them "mid".
Villanova is currently 27th in Kenpom. if that is mid, I would take that all day for MUBB this year.
Quote from: MUbiz on February 18, 2026, 09:50:42 AMVillanova is currently 27th in Kenpom. if that is mid, I would take that all day for MUBB this year.
This year? Of course. Marquette isn't close to mid this year. They're also a team that could've easily lost twice to the worst Marquette basketball team in a long, long time. They have 1 win against an at large Tournament team this year.
Quote from: wadesworld on February 18, 2026, 10:07:12 AMThis year? Of course. Marquette isn't close to mid this year. They're also a team that could've easily lost twice to the worst Marquette basketball team in a long, long time. They have 1 win against an at large Tournament team this year.
I think over 90% of scoopers would take 27th in Kenpom and comfortably in March Madness this year, if not any year for MUBB.
Who cares if Nova could have lost to MUBB this year - they did not lose and won both games. Nova did something MUBB could not do this year - finish the game strong and pull out wins.
Quote from: MUbiz on February 18, 2026, 10:11:51 AMI think over 90% of scoopers would take 27th in Kenpom and comfortably in March Madness this year, if not any year for MUBB.
Who cares if Nova could have lost to MUBB this year - they did not lose and won both games. Nova did something MUBB could not do this year - finish the game strong and pull out wins.
Against a bunch of bad teams. They'll certainly be on my radar for being upset in round one, and I'd be shocked if they make the second weekend. They have two Q1 wins on the year (and just 1 this calendar year, since that's a thing at Scoop apparently), and a Q3 loss.
Quote from: wadesworld on February 18, 2026, 10:12:46 AMAgainst a bunch of bad teams. They'll certainly be on my radar for being upset in round one, and I'd be shocked if they make the second weekend.
Not Nova's fault the Big East is terrible this year and they do not have the Q1 opportunities that the B10 and B12 have. They have won most of the games on their schedule and its enough to get into March Madness. Who cares about Nova being a second weekend team? That was not the point of this at all. The point was you are calling Nova mid when they are 21-5 and comfortably in the field. If MUBB was in this same scenario, I doubt you would be calling MUBB mid.
Quote from: MUbiz on February 18, 2026, 10:18:38 AMNot Nova's fault the Big East is terrible this year and they do not have the Q1 opportunities that the B10 and B12 have. They have won most of the games on their schedule and its enough to get into March Madness. Who cares about Nova being a second weekend team? That was not the point of this at all. The point was you are calling Nova mid when they are 21-5 and comfortably in the field. If MUBB was in this same scenario, I doubt you would be calling MUBB mid.
Miami is 26-0 and comfortably in the field. They're not even mid. Glad for the Big East that Villanova scheduled just 4 power 5 opponents in the non-conference and beat a bunch of low majors, but they're not that good.
Quote from: wadesworld on February 18, 2026, 10:26:52 AMMiami is 26-0 and comfortably in the field. They're not even mid. Glad for the Big East that Villanova scheduled just 4 power 5 opponents in the non-conference and beat a bunch of low majors, but they're not that good.
You're arguing against a point I never made. Nobody said Miami was "mid," so building your response around that is a strawman. And honestly, it feels like you're being contrarian just for the sake of it rather than responding to what I actually wrote. It's hard to have a good‑faith discussion when you keep responding to arguments nobody made. No wonder a lot of Scoop posters aren't exactly fans of you.
Quote from: wadesworld on February 18, 2026, 10:26:52 AMMiami is 26-0 and comfortably in the field. They're not even mid. Glad for the Big East that Villanova scheduled just 4 power 5 opponents in the non-conference and beat a bunch of low majors, but they're not that good.
I wish I could agree with you, but if they lose the conference tourney, they're sitting on the bubble for Dayton with their SOS (1-0 in Q2, nothing but Q3 and Q4 left). They are currently 49 in the NET but behind some current bubble teams like TCU, Santa Clara, San Diego State, and USC who are unlikely to get an auto bid.
I hope they make it but mid-majors like them are held to a higher standard by the P4 who actually run the selection process. Indiana State was 29 and missed the tourney, despite a 2-4 record in Q1 games at 6-2 in Q2.
Quote from: wadesworld on February 18, 2026, 10:26:52 AMMiami is 26-0 and comfortably in the field. They're not even mid. Glad for the Big East that Villanova scheduled just 4 power 5 opponents in the non-conference and beat a bunch of low majors, but they're not that good.
Villanova is more safely in the tournament than Miami is right now.
Regardless, Villanova took a bunch of transfers with a first year coach and is safely in the tournament right now. When Shaka was in year one and did the same, we were all thrilled. Nova Scoop should be as well.
Quote from: The Sultan on February 18, 2026, 10:40:19 AMVillanova is more safely in the tournament than Miami is right now.
Regardless, Villanova took a bunch of transfers with a first year coach and is safely in the tournament right now. When Shaka was in year one and did the same, we were all thrilled. Nova Scoop should be as well.
Not saying they shouldn't be.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on February 18, 2026, 10:39:34 AMI wish I could agree with you, but if they lose the conference tourney, they're sitting on the bubble for Dayton with their SOS (1-0 in Q2, nothing but Q3 and Q4 left). They are currently 49 in the NET but behind some current bubble teams like TCU, Santa Clara, San Diego State, and USC who are unlikely to get an auto bid.
I hope they make it but mid-majors like them are held to a higher standard by the P4 who actually run the selection process. Indiana State was 29 and missed the tourney, despite a 2-4 record in Q1 games at 6-2 in Q2.
Yeah, but if Miami wins out and loses in the conference tournament, I am pretty sure the committee will get them in somehow. But lose a game prior and lose in the conference tournament? No chance.
Quote from: wadesworld on February 18, 2026, 10:26:52 AMThey're not even mid.
Clarity! Clearly you should have said worse than mid, and the ensuing confusion would have been avoided.
Quote from: MUbiz on February 18, 2026, 10:32:29 AMYou're arguing against a point I never made. Nobody said Miami was "mid," so building your response around that is a strawman. And honestly, it feels like you're being contrarian just for the sake of it rather than responding to what I actually wrote. It's hard to have a good‑faith discussion when you keep responding to arguments nobody made. No wonder a lot of Scoop posters aren't exactly fans of you.
Oh no. I really look for the approval of Scoopers!
I've already addressed all of your points. They have 2 Q1 wins on the season. They are squeaking by teams like Marquette and Xavier. They've lost at home to Creighton. They're simply a mid team.
Quote from: wadesworld on February 18, 2026, 10:41:34 AMNot saying they shouldn't be.
????
Then what was the point behind this post?
Quote from: wadesworld on February 17, 2026, 08:58:03 PMAnd one team is awful, the other is mid.
It feels like you are just being argumentative and not willing to understand context.
Quote from: The Sultan on February 18, 2026, 10:44:33 AM????
Then what was the point behind this post?
It feels like you are just being argumentative and not willing to understand context.
I understand the context. The poster was pointing to two teams that were heavily built on transfers that played a fun game. That's cool. Xavier is absolute trash, and Villanova is a mediocre power conference team. Personally, I think there are WAY better examples of teams that use transfers to point to as portal success stories. Same deal with people who obsess with Gard's ability to land guys like Boyd or Tonje. If Marquette wants to shoot to be Wisconsin, Xavier, or (this year's) Villanova, then I guess I have higher expectations than most.
Quote from: wadesworld on February 18, 2026, 10:43:28 AMOh no. I really look for the approval of Scoopers!
I've already addressed all of your points. They have 2 Q1 wins on the season. They are squeaking by teams like Marquette and Xavier. They've lost at home to Creighton. They're simply a mid team.
You haven't addressed all the points. The question is simple: if you're calling Villanova "mid," would you also call MUBB mid with a 21–5 record?
You keep dodging that because answering it honestly would expose how inconsistent your argument is. Until you actually answer that, you're just talking around the issue — and that's where the intellectual dishonesty comes in.
Quote from: MUbiz on February 18, 2026, 10:49:12 AMYou haven't addressed all the points. The question is simple: if you're calling Villanova "mid," would you also call MUBB mid with a 21–5 record?
You keep dodging that because answering it honestly would expose how inconsistent your argument is. Until you actually answer that, you're just talking around the issue — and that's where the intellectual dishonesty comes in.
There's context to 21-5. If our best win was an OT win over Wisconsin and we had 2 Q1 wins on the season, one of them being against Seton Hall? 1 win against an at large team? And 12 of my 21 wins are Q3 or Q4 wins? Absolutely.
I'll be happy to admit I'm wrong if they end up beating SJU/UCONN in either of their remaining games with them or in the BET, or if they can beat somebody good in the NCAAT.
But scheduling lightly and beating a bunch of bad teams doesn't make a team good, in my opinion. They're mid. Marquette would be mid.
For reference, the team that Scoop loves to claim only had "half" of a good year last year because of our lack of success over high level competition in the second half of the year last year had 6 Q1 wins and had 7 wins against NCAA Tournament teams last year.
Quote from: wadesworld on February 18, 2026, 10:52:18 AMFor reference, the team that Scoop loves to claim only had "half" of a good year last year because of our lack of success over high level competition in the second half of the year last year had 6 Q1 wins and had 7 wins against NCAA Tournament teams last year.
They were ranked 8th on New Year's Day and unranked when the season ended. They only had half a good year.
Quote from: The Sultan on February 18, 2026, 11:08:54 AMThey were ranked 8th on New Year's Day and unranked when the season ended. They only had half a good year.
Fortunately (or, I guess for last year's purposes), sports aren't played in half seasons. Marquette has had a higher seed than they had last year 13 times in their history. Last year was a solid season for MUBB.
Quote from: wadesworld on February 18, 2026, 11:17:07 AMFortunately (or, I guess for last year's purposes), sports aren't played in half seasons. Marquette has had a higher seed than they had last year 13 times in their history. Last year was a solid season for MUBB.
Right. They were fairly evaluated over the course of their work over the entirety of the season. But anyone doing the most simple of analysis realizes that the season fell apart after the first of the year. One can both acknowledge that overall the season was good, but it definitely had a very good half and a very "mid" half.
Quote from: wadesworld on February 18, 2026, 10:46:59 AMI understand the context. The poster was pointing to two teams that were heavily built on transfers that played a fun game. That's cool. Xavier is absolute trash, and Villanova is a mediocre power conference team. Personally, I think there are WAY better examples of teams that use transfers to point to as portal success stories. Same deal with people who obsess with Gard's ability to land guys like Boyd or Tonje. If Marquette wants to shoot to be Wisconsin, Xavier, or (this year's) Villanova, then I guess I have higher expectations than most.
I am sure everyone here would like to have Nova's mediocre 12-3 and 21-5 record after Marquette's name in the league standings. I am sure everyone would be praising the success of RGV and that Shaka is a savant in evaluating talent.
However, I agree the conference is mediocre this season and hope they all can turn things around, but Nova is not mediocre as they are winning the games they should win.
I also agree with you if Marquette wants to compete at the high major D1 level then anything less than having a chance to win a Natty is unacceptable. Otherwise what is the point.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on February 18, 2026, 12:31:05 PMI also agree with you if Marquette wants to compete at the high major D1 level then anything less than having a chance to win a Natty is unacceptable. Otherwise what is the point.
It's a little more complicated than that.
Villanova appears to be a bit of a paper tiger.
Marquette is really bad so of course we'd love to be in their position right now. And in that scenario we'd also be a paper tiger.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on February 18, 2026, 02:04:37 PMHow so?
Plenty of schools compete at a high major level-- as many as 100 that can legitimately make that claim. Probably 75-80 have no real path to win a national championship, either by funding, by talent, by strength of schedule, or by placement in a conference that will not support them with multiple at-large opportunities.
Quote from: DFW HOYA on February 18, 2026, 02:31:39 PMPlenty of schools compete at a high major level-- as many as 100 that can legitimately make that claim. Probably 75-80 have no real path to win a national championship, either by funding, by talent, by strength of schedule, or by placement in a conference that will not support them with multiple at-large opportunities.
Marquette was a #2 seed just two years ago.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on February 18, 2026, 02:30:41 PMVillanova appears to be a bit of a paper tiger.
Marquette is really bad so of course we'd love to be in their position right now. And in that scenario we'd also be a paper tiger.
So Marquette was a paper tiger when we got that #2 seed 2 years ago? If Nova is a paper tiger they sure are not showing it on the court. They just keep winning.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on February 18, 2026, 02:59:26 PMSo Marquette was a paper tiger when we got that #2 seed 2 years ago? If Nova is a paper tiger they sure are not showing it on the court. They just keep winning.
Wow.
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Quote from: muwarrior69 on February 18, 2026, 02:59:26 PMSo Marquette was a paper tiger when we got that #2 seed 2 years ago? If Nova is a paper tiger they sure are not showing it on the court. They just keep winning.
Nova is not winning the way we were two years ago, and they will not get anywhere near a 2 seed.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on February 18, 2026, 02:59:26 PMSo Marquette was a paper tiger when we got that #2 seed 2 years ago? If Nova is a paper tiger they sure are not showing it on the court. They just keep winning.
There are more variables in play than just record, unless you think Miami (OH) with their 305th ranked SOS (per kenpom) is the best team in the country because they're undefeated. They just keep winning
Butler is gonna try hard to give this game away. Offense's cruising and now Matta is slowing them down and trying to shorten the game and they look tight and nervous. Unreal
Good grief. This UCONN/Creighton Game is moving like molasses.
I would think UCONN finds a way to win this game, but they aren't looking good at all.
We picked a terrible year to be the worst team in the league.
This conference tournament would be right there for us if we had a complete roster.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 18, 2026, 07:55:01 PMWe picked a terrible year to be the worst team in the league.
This conference tournament would be right there for us if we had a complete roster.
Keep in mind we had Creighton down 30 at the half.
Quote from: MuggsyB on February 18, 2026, 07:58:28 PMKeep in mind we had Creighton down 30 at the half.
Ya, but we also have no center.
We play Zuby or Reed and we are toast. If we had a complete roster. Totally up for grabs.
As it stands we'd likely have to beat Reed and Zuby on back to back nights which would be our 3rd and 4th consecutive games.
Creighton's only Q1 win is over Nova by 4 in Omaha.
You know this last 1:04 will take 15-20 mins. Pisses me off.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 18, 2026, 08:03:31 PMYa, but we also have no center.
We play Zuby or Reed and we are toast. If we had a complete roster. Totally up for grabs.
As it stands we'd likely have to beat Reed and Zuby on back to back nights which would be our 3rd and 4th consecutive games.
I'd play hack a Reid with Caedin and Josh.
Stop Hurley. Your team got outplayed.
DePaul wins in Newark. This is why I mentioned earlier this season we need to cool our jets regarding the Hall being a tournament team.
Road teams were 4-0 in Big East games tonight
Quote from: wadesworld on February 18, 2026, 10:52:18 AMFor reference, the team that Scoop loves to claim only had "half" of a good year last year because of our lack of success over high level competition in the second half of the year last year had 6 Q1 wins and had 7 wins against NCAA Tournament teams last year.
This is a good point. 5 of those Q1 wins & 6 of the tourney wins came by January 3, when we were 13-2. The only one after that was Xavier at MSG, which was barely Q1 and barely made the field.
We played 34 games and almost all the quality from the season was in the first 15, so it wasn't half a good season, it was 44% a good season. Thanks for pointing that out.
What do we realistically think Pitino is gonna offer Nigel in April?
Probably like $3 million per year?
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 18, 2026, 10:56:55 PMWhat do we realistically think Pitino is gonna offer Nigel in April?
Probably like $3 million per year?
Nigel isn't going anywhere.
Quote from: MuggsyB on February 18, 2026, 10:58:44 PMNigel isn't going anywhere.
That wasn't what I said.
I asked how much Rick is realistically gonna offer him. They are going to get a number to him one way or another. It's the nature of the sport. It's going to be a gigantic number.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 18, 2026, 11:01:25 PMThat wasn't what I said.
I asked how much Rick is realistically gonna offer him. They are going to get a number to him one way or another. It's the nature of the sport. It's going to be a gigantic number.
It could be around 3m.
Quote from: brewcity77 on February 18, 2026, 10:34:53 PMThis is a good point. 5 of those Q1 wins & 6 of the tourney wins came by January 3, when we were 13-2. The only one after that was Xavier at MSG, which was barely Q1 and barely made the field.
We played 34 games and almost all the quality from the season was in the first 15, so it wasn't half a good season, it was 44% a good season. Thanks for pointing that out.
So what you're saying is that in the time after all of our quality wins happened we still had just one less Q1 win and equally as many wins over Tourney teams as Villanova has on the entire year this year?
Yeah, like I said, mid. Thanks for pointing that out.
"It's true from a certain point of view". Obi-Wan Kenobi
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 18, 2026, 10:56:55 PMWhat do we realistically think Pitino is gonna offer Nigel in April?
Probably like $3 million per year?
Darling is getting $1 million so your $3 million isn't unrealistic
Quote from: wadesworld on February 19, 2026, 05:03:50 AMSo what you're saying is that in the time after all of our quality wins happened we still had just one less Q1 win and equally as many wins over Tourney teams as Villanova has on the entire year this year?
Yeah, like I said, mid. Thanks for pointing that out.
No one, absolutely no one, is claiming that Villanova is better than last year's Marquette team. This was a comparison YOU started. It's a complete strawman.
EDIT: The only reason people are responding is because you keep downplaying the collapse of the last 56% (thanks brew) of the year. Yes, teams are judged on their entire season, but ignoring that is really odd.
Wades any particular reason a team who was a top 10 team in December with a bunch of big wins was a 7 seed when the ncaa tournament came around?
Quote from: The Sultan on February 19, 2026, 08:04:23 AMNo one, absolutely no one, is claiming that Villanova is better than last year's Marquette team. This was a comparison YOU started. It's a complete strawman.
EDIT: The only reason people are responding is because you keep downplaying the collapse of the last 56% (thanks brew) of the year. Yes, teams are judged on their entire season, but ignoring that is really odd.
Yes, I brought up the comparison because people are up in arms over me calling Villanova "mid." Their best win is a neutral win over Wisconsin. Their only other Q1 win is a road win against Seton Hall, who just got blitzed at home by DePaul and is not a good team and won't be in the NCAA Tournament.
So, for a point of reference you are correct,
I brought up last year's Marquette team. The one that posters love to cry about having only "half" of a good season. If you'd like me to, I can find other teams that people don't think were great to compare them to. Sorry this one hurts you.
Brew furthered my point for me. I had never heard people refer to a sports team's record across a calendar year, spanning two separate seasons with two different rosters, or referring to a season's success by the half year until last year's Marquette team when there wasn't enough to cry about around here. So in our "bad half season" last year, we STILL had just one fewer Q1 win and the same amount of wins against NCAA Tournament teams than Villanova has this ENTIRE season.
So yes, nobody said Villanova is better than last year's Marquette team. And Scoopers here cry about last year's Marquette team. So not sure what the issue with calling Villanova mid is. Again, thanks for furthering my point.
Quote from: wadesworld on February 19, 2026, 10:37:23 AMSorry this one hurts you.
Nothing "hurts" me. You're simply being ridiculous.
Quote from: wadesworld on February 19, 2026, 10:37:23 AMI had never heard people refer to a sports team's record across a calendar year, spanning two separate seasons with two different rosters, or referring to a season's success by the half year until last year's Marquette team when there wasn't enough to cry about around here.
Well, you aren't paying attention then. You haven't heard of teams carrying bad momentum from one season to another? You haven't heard of teams having good halves or bad halves?
Cmon...
Quote from: The Sultan on February 19, 2026, 11:02:54 AMNothing "hurts" me. You're simply being ridiculous.
Well, you aren't paying attention then. You haven't heard of teams carrying bad momentum from one season to another? You haven't heard of teams having good halves or bad halves?
Cmon...
I have now!
The Johnnies are not messing around today and Creighton has given up like they did against us. 8 minutes without a field goal in the second half.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on February 21, 2026, 12:50:30 PMThe Johnnies are not messing around today and Creighton has given up like they did against us. 8 minutes without a field goal in the second half.
The 4th best team in our league is still anyone's guess. This is a insanely bad year for our entire conference. I'm not sold at all on UCONN or St.J in the tournament.
Quote from: MuggsyB on February 21, 2026, 12:56:17 PMThe 4th best team in our league is still anyone's guess. This is a insanely bad year for our entire conference. I'm not sold at all on UCONN or St.J in the tournament.
St John's more than UConn because UConn's defense is highly suspect. But, I don't see St. John's as more than a Sweet 16 team
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on February 21, 2026, 12:50:30 PMThe Johnnies are not messing around today and Creighton has given up like they did against us. 8 minutes without a field goal in the second half.
Wow Saint John's crushed Creighton Today 81-52
21-5 nova are such frauds. 20 point home loss.. a joke
That Seton Hall is considered "last four out" is all the proof needed to not expand the tourney field.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on February 21, 2026, 06:57:27 PMThat Seton Hall is considered "best four out" is all the proof needed to not expand the tourney field.
Why not, that would put us on the bub.... yah not, never mind.
Quote from: Johnny B on February 21, 2026, 06:21:26 PM21-5 nova are such frauds. 20 point home loss.. a joke
They're mid.
Quote from: Johnny B on February 21, 2026, 06:21:26 PM21-5 nova are such frauds. 20 point home loss.. a joke
They can get hot from 3 but you're right. Although they did dismiss Whisky.
Quote from: Johnny B on February 21, 2026, 06:21:26 PM21-5 nova are such frauds. 20 point home loss.. a joke
They're 2019 Marquette
GT just scored 47 points on 27% shooting - including 4-for—23 from 3 - against SH.
Looks like they're primed to shoot 60% from 3 against us!
Quote from: Johnny B on February 21, 2026, 06:21:26 PM21-5 nova are such frauds. 20 point home loss.. a joke
Yesterday? 73-63.
Yah. The Big (L)East is terrible.
God awful...
UCONN could win the NC, and SJU is good, but that is it. BE will only get three bids, which has to be their least ever.
Ohio State losing to Michigan State is a good result for the Hall.
They need all the help they can get on the bubble and Ohio State now drops to 0-9 in Q1 games.
Quote from: Mu8891 on February 22, 2026, 11:40:08 AMYah. The Big (L)East is terrible.
God awful...
UCONN could win the NC, and SJU is good, but that is it. BE will only get three bids, which has to be their least ever.
And yet we are at the bottom of the lowly BEast pile. Says tons about the state of MU BB under Mr. Smart.
Don't you mean Smart-Dukiet, joyless willie?
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 22, 2026, 05:05:26 PMOhio State losing to Michigan State is a good result for the Hall.
They need all the help they can get on the bubble and Ohio State now drops to 0-9 in Q1 games.
Ohio State being a "last four in" going into yesterday's game suggests the tournament should go back to 64 teams.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on February 23, 2026, 05:00:06 PMOhio State being a "last four in" going into yesterday's game suggests the tournament should go back to 64 teams.
The bubble gets worse and worse every year.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 23, 2026, 05:00:34 PMThe bubble gets worse and worse every year.
It doesn't, though.
UCONN 33 to 12 over St.J???
When we play UCONN, I would go to the Hack-A-Reed. I think it would drive Hurley crazy and he would brick a lot.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on February 24, 2026, 12:29:15 PMNova was down 20 with 4-5 minutes left.
Quote from: Johnny B on February 21, 2026, 06:21:26 PM21-5 nova are such frauds. 20 point home loss.. a joke
Johnny posted "20 point
loss."
UCONN!!!
I know I'm biased, but when I look at teams 6-11 in our league, I think we're at worst 7th. That said, the BEast is abysmal this year. I don't expect much from St.J or Nova in the tournament. I also think UCONN is likely a loser in the S16.
Quote from: MuggsyB on February 25, 2026, 07:50:28 PMI know I'm biased, but when I look at teams 6-11 in our league, I think we're at worst 7th.
That's fine, but 7th in this year's BEast is like a semi-normal looking turd in a porta potty's receptacle.
Quote from: Jay Bee on February 25, 2026, 07:54:31 PMThat's fine, but 7th in this year's BEast is like a semi-normal looking turd in a porta potty's receptacle.
Yes. But I thought our ceiling was 4 wins.
St John's finished missing their last 24 FG attempts. They made 11 total for the game. Good God, that's so bad I'm impressed.
Quote from: MuggsyB on February 25, 2026, 08:12:53 PMYes. But I thought our ceiling was 4 wins.
Many did. Not I.
DePaul won at Creighton.
Will the Big East return to winning basketball? I cannot remember a worse season for the league since MU joined. It is not just MU having to make adjustments this off season but a majority of the league.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on February 26, 2026, 09:30:35 AMWill the Big East return to winning basketball? I cannot remember a worse season for the league since MU joined. It is not just MU having to make adjustments this off season but a majority of the league.
Big lEast
Doomed.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on February 26, 2026, 09:30:35 AMWill the Big East return to winning basketball? I cannot remember a worse season for the league since MU joined. It is not just MU having to make adjustments this off season but a majority of the league.
It's a function of two teams excelling at the top of the conference (a combined 31-4 in BE play) and because everything has to equal out, the record at the bottom reflects it. The non-confernce marks were's stellar but when two of those four losses above for SJ and UConn were to each other, the wins are coming from teams down below.
Case in point: the 2012-13 season--a national champion in Louisville, top 20 teams at Marquette, Georgetown, Syracuse and Pitt. Here were the bottom four teams on those standings:
Rutgers 5-13
Seton Hall 3-15
South Florida 3-15
DePaul 2-16
Quote from: DFW HOYA on February 26, 2026, 11:57:30 AMIt's a function of two teams excelling at the top of the conference (a combined 31-4 in BE play) and because everything has to equal out, the record at the bottom reflects it. The non-confernce marks were's stellar but when two of those four losses above for SJ and UConn were to each other, the wins are coming from teams down below.
Case in point: the 2012-13 season--a national champion in Louisville, top 20 teams at Marquette, Georgetown, Syracuse and Pitt. Here were the bottom four teams on those standings:
Rutgers 5-13
Seton Hall 3-15
South Florida 3-15
DePaul 2-16
...but the overall record of the bottom 7 teams with 2 exceptions are below .500 ball and the 2 exceptions are just one or 2 games above .500. That has nothing to do with St.John's or UCONN dominating the league. They all just played poorly this year.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on February 27, 2026, 12:08:10 PM...but the overall record of the bottom 7 teams with 2 exceptions are below .500 ball and the 2 exceptions are just one or 2 games above .500. That has nothing to do with St.John's or UCONN dominating the league. They all just played poorly this year.
Wut
Quote from: MUDPT on February 27, 2026, 12:30:54 PMWut
Basically, the entire conference outside of UConn, St. John's, and Villanova is mediocre, and there's very little separation in the quality of the 4th-place and 11th-place teams.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on February 27, 2026, 01:03:53 PMBasically, the entire conference outside of UConn, St. John's, and Villanova is mediocre, and there's very little separation in the quality of the 4th-place and 11th-place teams.
Nova isn't a whole lot better than those 8 teams either.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on February 27, 2026, 01:03:53 PMBasically, UConn and St. John's are good, Villanova is mediocre, and the entire rest of the conference is bad, and there's very little separation in the quality of the 4th-place and 11th-place teams.
FIFY.
Since Big East expansion, the league has largely been Villanova, UConn, and the Midwest 3. (Marquette, Creighton, Xavier). These 3 teams are down. St. John's is up.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on February 26, 2026, 09:30:35 AMWill the Big East return to winning basketball? I cannot remember a worse season for the league since MU joined. It is not just MU having to make adjustments this off season but a majority of the league.
Yet we are near the bottom of the league. Oh what a sorry state
Quote from: willie warrior on February 27, 2026, 02:13:51 PMYet we are near the bottom of the league. Oh what a sorry state
But this may well be a one-off. Previous three MU seasons, 79-23.
Compare that to a school that is 34-74 in its previous three.
By tonight we'll be out of the BE cellar.
Quote from: mileskishnish72 on February 28, 2026, 08:53:37 AMBy tonight we'll be out of the BE cellar.
We'll "leap" above one last place team, and "sink" below another!
Quote from: DFW HOYA on February 27, 2026, 09:42:39 PMBut this may well be a one-off. Previous three MU seasons, 79-23.
Compare that to a school that is 34-74 in its previous three.
...or it could another bad season if significant changes are not made in the off season.
I think we can beat UConn next weekend, assuming the team is healthy.
Very unlikely but possible.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on February 28, 2026, 12:49:59 PMI think we can beat UConn next weekend, assuming the team is healthy.
Very unlikely but possible.
Absolutely doable!
Questionable officiating to close this one in Storrs.
Wow. Either let them play or call it close for 40 mins.
That was ridiculous.
Quote from: MuggsyB on February 28, 2026, 12:56:11 PMQuestionable officiating to close this one in Storrs.
It was pretty questionable for most of the game.
Exhibit A is 22 fouls for Seton Hall to 10 for UConn.
The bail out call that put Ball at the line in the last minute was a pivotal point in the game
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on February 28, 2026, 12:49:59 PMI think we can beat UConn next weekend, assuming the team is healthy.
Very unlikely but possible.
UConn will be rested and ready after having a bye this week and will be playing to win the conference title.
I wouldn't hold my breath for a close game. Even the 15 point advantage for having it be senior day might not be enough.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on February 28, 2026, 12:49:59 PMI think we can beat UConn next weekend, assuming the team is healthy.
Very unlikely but possible.
I like the optimism VBMG. Lots of things would need to go right for it to happen. It would be a nice way for Chase and Ben to end there MU careers at home and they would have to have their best and most clutch games of the year to get it done. Along with the now accustomed games from our other starters of course.
Quote from: wisblue on February 28, 2026, 01:17:23 PMUConn will be rested and ready after having a bye this week and will be playing to win the conference title.
I wouldn't hold my breath for a close game. Even the 15 point advantage for having it be senior day might not be enough.
They're super inconsistent despite their stellar record. They've had many BEast wins in the last few mins vs inferior teams. It's definitely unlikely we win, but it is doable. I think we should hack a Reed in stretches if the score calls for it.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on February 26, 2026, 09:30:35 AMWill the Big East return to winning basketball? I cannot remember a worse season for the league since MU joined. It is not just MU having to make adjustments this off season but a majority of the league.
Quote from: willie warrior on February 27, 2026, 02:13:51 PMYet we are near the bottom of the league. Oh what a sorry state
Quote from: DFW HOYA on February 27, 2026, 09:42:39 PMBut this may well be a one-off. Previous three MU seasons, 79-23.
Compare that to a school that is 34-74 in its previous three.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on February 28, 2026, 11:29:51 AM...or it could another bad season if significant changes are not made in the off season.
Nice try at offering another perspective DFW Hoya, but the Perpetually Pissed Pair are simply
not having it.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on February 28, 2026, 04:15:43 PMNice try at offering another perspective DFW Hoya, but the Perpetually Pissed Pair are simply not having it.
I agree with this analysis. 8-)
Creighton wins at UCONN and then proceeds to crap the bed with home losses to DePaul and Providence.
Quote from: wiscwarrior on February 28, 2026, 04:38:50 PMI agree with this analysis. 8-)
Fans should be pissed off with this season's performance. Good for you that you believe it is a one off. Everybody is looking forward to the glory of next year.
Quote from: willie warrior on February 28, 2026, 06:50:48 PMFans should be pissed off with this season's performance. Good for you that you believe it is a one off. Everybody is looking forward to the glory of next year.
You'd find a way to complain about a national championship. That's why no one takes you seriously.
Quote from: The Sultan on February 28, 2026, 07:16:31 PMYou'd find a way to complain about a national championship. That's why no one takes you seriously.
I take willie seriously. That's why I've contacted the authorities.
Quote from: MuggsyB on February 28, 2026, 06:44:03 PMCreighton wins at UCONN and then proceeds to crap the bed with home losses to DePaul and Providence.
A Providence team with only six rotation players active too.
And the national media writing off St John's after the UConn game will be singing a different tune tomorrow. Zuby with a triple double: 16-12-10
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on February 28, 2026, 04:15:43 PMNice try at offering another perspective DFW Hoya, but the Perpetually Pissed Pair are simply not having it.
We stunk this season, therefore we will be horrible for the next decade. That's just science, as joyless willie and eeyore69 know from their storied Marquette careers.
Kevin Willard on working for Rick Pitino 😂
https://x.com/TheFieldOf68/status/2027960544540373334
We all know Bruce Pearl is an idiot and it advocating for Coach Nepobaby. That said, it's sad to say I agree with the Miami AD:
"[You] are flat out wrong about Miami (OH) when you say we would finish last in the Big East," Sayler said Monday on X. "The disrespect is awful and [you] should not be near a TV studio covering this sport when [you] show your true colors."
Georgetown leading St. John's 34 to 26 at halftime at the Garden.
I hope Dodds is watching the halftime show where the analyst said that part of the problem is that senior night is a disruption because it takes players out of their normal pregame routine.
Quote from: wisblue on March 03, 2026, 06:56:46 PMGeorgetown leading St. John's 34 to 26 at halftime at the Garden.
I hope Dodds is watching the halftime show where the analyst said that part of the problem is that senior night is a disruption because it takes players out of their normal pregame routine.
Nonsensical take.
If St.J winds up on the 5 line, I think they lose in the rd of 64.
Can't shoot well enough.
Will be in foul trouble.
Mediocre PG play.
Put 'em in a blender, and you've got another early NCAAT exit for the Johnnies.
Quote from: wisblue on March 03, 2026, 06:56:46 PMGeorgetown leading St. John's 34 to 26 at halftime at the Garden.
I hope Dodds is watching the halftime show where the analyst said that part of the problem is that senior night is a disruption because it takes players out of their normal pregame routine.
Does SR Night have any affect on the MSG
shooting background?
We are out of Big East last place
Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on March 03, 2026, 10:45:30 PMWe are out of Big East last place
Georgetown is 1-7 in games settled by four points or less and 1-9 in the final two minutes. How many of these players return in two weeks?
Pitino elected not to foul up 3.
Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on March 03, 2026, 10:45:30 PMWe are out of Big East last place
That is comforting. Give Shaka a huge extension.
Well there you have it. Kim's last few days with Providence.
https://x.com/i/status/2029395205820932347
Dues anyone know the tiebreaker if we wind up tied with Butler or X?
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 04, 2026, 09:36:27 PMDues anyone know the tiebreaker if we wind up tied with Butler or X?
Yes, but that's not a complete question. The particulars (specific teams; 2 way or multi; etc) are needed
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 04, 2026, 09:36:27 PMDues anyone know the tiebreaker if we wind up tied with Butler or X?
I think MU finishes above X because of our win over Creighton (they were 0-2 against Creighton).
Quote from: Jay Bee on March 04, 2026, 09:38:49 PMYes, but that's not a complete question. The particulars (specific teams; 2 way or multi; etc) are needed
Okay. What if all three teams are tied?
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 04, 2026, 09:41:49 PMOkay. What if all three teams are tied?
Mini conference
MU went 2-2
Butler went 2-2
X went 2-2
Next is best win. Butler beat seton hall. We best creighton. Xavier beat DePaul
Butler finishes ahead of us. Xavier depends on if Creighton or DePaul finishes 5th
Quote from: BM1090 on March 04, 2026, 09:46:42 PMMini conference
MU went 2-2
Butler went 2-2
X went 2-2
Next is best win. Butler beat seton hall. We best creighton.
1.
I guess since we can't snag the 6, it doesn't really matter. It's too bad we were total duds on Saturday.
..throw in Georgetown though (4-way tie) and things change again - including different win/loss records in the mini group.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 04, 2026, 09:22:23 PMWell there you have it. Kim's last few days with Providence.
https://x.com/i/status/2029395205820932347
There's a P4 coach who has been in contact with PC for a while now to campaign heavily for the job. If he gets the job, oh brother...
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 05, 2026, 09:20:57 AMThere's a P4 coach who has been in contact with PC for a while now to campaign heavily for the job. If he gets the job, oh brother...
Hurley
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 05, 2026, 09:20:57 AMThere's a P4 coach who has been in contact with PC for a while now to campaign heavily for the job. If he gets the job, oh brother...
I see what you did there.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on February 28, 2026, 12:49:59 PMI think we can beat UConn next weekend, assuming the team is healthy.
Very unlikely but possible.
Told ya.
Not sure where else to put this, but Marquette's defense improved so much in the last couple months that they've finished top 50 in Kenpom (49th) and TRank (44th).
Since 1/17, MU is 40th overall in TRank and 22nd on defense. 11th on defense in the last ten games.
Quote from: BM1090 on March 07, 2026, 04:45:23 PMNot sure where else to put this, but Marquette's defense improved so much in the last couple months that they've finished top 50 in Kenpom (49th) and TRank (44th).
Since 1/17, MU is 40th overall in TRank and 22nd on defense. 11th on defense in the last ten games.
That is why we are on the bubble. ;)
How does it play out for the last big east game in terms of Marquette seed? Do we cheer for Providence or Georgetown?
It was posted in the Tiebreaker thread that if Georgetown wins we are 7, if Providence wins we are 8.
Thank you. Sorry I missed that thread.
Think I'd prefer Butler/StJ over X/UCONN.
Quote from: CountryRoads on March 07, 2026, 08:09:02 PMThink I'd prefer Butler/StJ over X/UCONN.
I'd prefer X/UConn because they will play in the evening.
Don't like Cooley but I do enjoy Providence losing ( their fans are the worst).
Is Georgetown trying to lose this game?
That was truly a comedy of errors.
MU vs X on Wednesday. A win and we face UCONN again.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 07, 2026, 09:20:37 PMMU vs X on Wednesday. A win and we face UCONN again.
I was hoping for Providence to win that game, so Marquette could play Butler and take a shot at St. John's with a win.
I wonder what Carroll's status is. He was out today.
Quote from: wisblue on March 07, 2026, 09:24:34 PMI was hoping for Providence to win that game, so Marquette could play Butler and take a shot at St. John's with a win.
I wonder what Carroll's status is. He was out today.
I think Butler and then St J. may have been the better draw but I don't think it matters all that much. I also expect Hurley to be suspended for that potential game.
The Big East already announced Hurley is being fined $25K. I doubt they'd announce any type of punishment if it wasn't a final punishment.
If not Hurley, I'll accept suspensions of Reed, Ball and Mullins.
Quote from: wadesworld on March 07, 2026, 09:45:24 PMThe Big East already announced Hurley is being fined $25K. I doubt they'd announce any type of punishment if it wasn't a final punishment.
I saw the story on the BE site. Apparently, there is insufficient evidence of physical contact. The $25k fine is for unsportsmanlike conduct.
So I think you are probably right Wades-no additional punishment.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 07, 2026, 09:17:40 PMThat was truly a comedy of errors.
Two bad teams. PC had a chance to win with 1.4 seconds left and turns the ball over.
22 turnovers on the evening.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on March 07, 2026, 09:51:20 PMI saw the story on the BE site. Apparently, there is insufficient evidence of physical contact. The $25k fine is for unsportsmanlike conduct.
So I think you are probably right Wades-no additional punishment.
It wasn't insufficient evidence. What a
Quote from: wadesworld on March 07, 2026, 09:45:24 PMThe Big East already announced Hurley is being fined $25K. I doubt they'd announce any type of punishment if it wasn't a final punishment.
That's beeass.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 07, 2026, 10:07:43 PMIt wasn't insufficient evidence. What a
That's beeass.
Stomp your feet, yell and scream if you want Muggsy. Post 6 consecutive times on the subject- whatever makes you happy. It's what the BE decided.
Nigel makes All-BE Third team.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HC5a-H5WYAAOz-k?format=jpg&name=large)
Quote from: Pakuni on March 08, 2026, 10:06:05 AMNigel makes All-BE Third team.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HC5a-H5WYAAOz-k?format=jpg&name=large)
Does this mean Lewis from Nova is the Freshman of the Year too? Or is that voted separately?
What a shame that would be.
Nigel also all frosh team (of course)
Chase in there for all conf def team
#BannerTime
Don't have to worry about UConn - Shaka reads this board and will use the highly intelligent take to lose this game so he can rest the team for next season.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 07, 2026, 09:20:37 PMMU vs X on Wednesday. A win and we face UCONN again.
Statistically, Nigel was quite superior to Lewis ... but some dopes put emphasis on team success even though it's not "most valuable" freshman.
Quote from: Jay Bee on March 08, 2026, 10:23:12 AMNigel also all frosh team (of course)
Chase in there for all conf def team
#BannerTime
Bubble team
I don't really care that much about these awards, but if I was trying to make a case for James, it would be that he was carrying a much heavier load in trying to carry the team rather than providing production with a better supporting cast.
Maybe it shouldn't be about pure stats but how much a team would have been reduced if that player wasn't around. Using that approach, I think James would clearly win over Lewis.
https://x.com/Jmadden1632/status/2041209696283992110?s=20
Quote from: Pakuni on April 06, 2026, 12:45:17 PMhttps://x.com/Jmadden1632/status/2041209696283992110?s=20
Marquette hires the all knowing Reeker as GM and PR Director. His first moves are trying to recruit Wardle as new Head Coach and paying tribute to UConn Head Dick, Dan Hurley.
Quote from: willie warrior on April 06, 2026, 02:53:20 PMMarquette hires the all knowing Reeker as GM and PR Director. His first moves are trying to recruit Wardle as new Head Coach and paying tribute to UConn Head Dick, Dan Hurley.
No, I'd hire Dan Hurley as head coach. He'd be the best coach in Marquette history.
Quote from: willie warrior on April 06, 2026, 02:53:20 PMMarquette hires the all knowing Reeker as GM and PR Director. His first moves are trying to recruit Wardle as new Head Coach and paying tribute to UConn Head Dick, Dan Hurley.
For a guy who thinks he lives in Rico's head, you sure do bring him up all the time even when you're not in an ongoing conversation with him.
In other words, it's pretty obvious to everyone else on Scoop that Rico lives in your head, and totally rent-free.
It's a nice residence for him, too, with only a very tiny and withering brain taking up any space.
More chihuahua yapping at the air.
Quote from: MU82 on April 06, 2026, 03:14:28 PMFor a guy who thinks he lives in Rico's head, you sure do bring him up all the time even when you're not in an ongoing conversation with him.
In other words, it's pretty obvious to everyone else on Scoop that Rico lives in your head, and totally rent-free.
It's a nice residence for him, too, with only a very tiny and withering brain taking up any space.
For someone that is worried about the gap, you'd think he'd want Hurley in a heartbeat.
https://x.com/rickbroering/status/2042981645582487946?s=61
Big East basketball transfer portal news: Which players are in, on move (https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/2026/04/07/college-basketball-transfer-portal-big-east-news-which-players-are-in-on-move/89504362007/)
Quote from: muwarrior69 on April 12, 2026, 08:24:53 AMBig East basketball transfer portal news: Which players are in, on move (https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/2026/04/07/college-basketball-transfer-portal-big-east-news-which-players-are-in-on-move/89504362007/)
Is there buyer's remorse at Villanova? Seems like they're taking a huge roster hit and rebuilding again in only year 2 of the Kevin Willard era.
https://x.com/joetipton/status/2043882707801768260?s=61
Nice reload for nova after Lewis dipped
Quote from: Johnny B on April 13, 2026, 10:33:41 PMNice reload for nova after Lewis dipped
Curious what their starting lineup will be.
Looks like they currently have 3 starters lined up to be playing out of position. Will be interesting to see how that rounds out for them.
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