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Title: '25-26 NBA Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on October 21, 2025, 06:41:26 PM
It's good that some form of hoops is back.   Houston is freaking gargantuan without VV. 
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Post by: MuggsyB on October 21, 2025, 06:52:10 PM
Strong start for Chet.  I was completely wrong about him. 
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Post by: Shaka Shart on October 21, 2025, 06:52:46 PM
I was completely right about Chet
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Post by: Uncle Rico on October 21, 2025, 06:57:18 PM
Quote from: MuggsyB on October 21, 2025, 06:52:10 PMStrong start for Chet.  I was completely wrong about him. 

I'm boycotting the NBA
Title: Re: '25-26 NBA Thread
Post by: wadesworld on October 21, 2025, 06:59:53 PM
Chet is good, but also an example of what is wrong with the max contract, especially now with more restrictive cap rules. Paying a good player that amount of your cap comes back to haunt you eventually. It should be for guys like Giannis, Shai, etc. But if the team doesn't give him the max, someone will.
Title: Re: '25-26 NBA Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on October 21, 2025, 07:03:25 PM
If Amen Thompson develops a consistent J?  Look out. 
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Post by: MuggsyB on October 21, 2025, 07:05:51 PM
I noticed the OKC fans cheered Steven Adams but booed Durant.  ;)
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Post by: Uncle Rico on October 21, 2025, 07:07:42 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on October 21, 2025, 06:59:53 PMChet is good, but also an example of what is wrong with the max contract, especially now with more restrictive cap rules. Paying a good player that amount of your cap comes back to haunt you eventually. It should be for guys like Giannis, Shai, etc. But if the team doesn't give him the max, someone will.

Join me in boycotting the NBA
Title: Re: '25-26 NBA Thread
Post by: GB Warrior on October 21, 2025, 07:31:18 PM
Quote from: Shaka Shart on October 21, 2025, 06:52:46 PMI was completely right about Chet

His cultural misappropriation was distasteful, but now he's extending it to being good at basketball too?
Title: Re: '25-26 NBA Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on October 21, 2025, 10:58:05 PM
Luka looks great.  The rest of the Lakers do not.
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Post by: Jay Bee on October 21, 2025, 11:01:45 PM
Quote from: MuggsyB on October 21, 2025, 07:03:25 PMIf Amen Thompson develops a consistent J?  Look out. 

Amen!
Title: Re: '25-26 NBA Thread
Post by: WhiteTrash on October 21, 2025, 11:32:36 PM
Quote from: MuggsyB on October 21, 2025, 10:58:05 PMLuka looks great.  The rest of the Lakers do not.
I see why Ayton was available as a free agent.
Title: Re: '25-26 NBA Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on October 22, 2025, 08:56:06 AM
Quote from: MuggsyB on October 21, 2025, 07:03:25 PMIf Amen Thompson develops a consistent J?  Look out. 

Year 3 and he still can't shoot a lick. At this point, I don't know how anyone can realistically expect it to change.

Very good player but it's a huge hole in his game.
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Post by: JWags85 on October 22, 2025, 09:30:18 AM
Rockets-Thunder was an awful rock fight of a game...that got great under 5 min and turned into a fantastic game.  I turned it off multiple times in the first half and 3rd quarter.

Quote from: MuggsyB on October 21, 2025, 10:58:05 PMLuka looks great.  The rest of the Lakers do not.

Lakers are absolutely toast if Luka or LeBron misses significant time. Unless Knecht makes some huge jump, 25-30 min each of Gabe Vincent and mid 30s Marcus Smart is a prescription for a play in game. Vanderbilt looked awful. Laravia and a washed Kleiber aren't moving the needle.
Title: Re: '25-26 NBA Thread
Post by: wadesworld on October 22, 2025, 09:51:18 AM
https://x.com/DrGuru_/status/1980839867686019174

Smart doing what won him a DPOY on the offensive end is genius.  Might win an MVP doing this.

He's the Brad Davison of the NBA.
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Post by: MU82 on October 22, 2025, 10:38:42 AM
KD blamed himself:

"I missed the free throws, and I fouled somebody at the end. I think those two plays are the reason we lost."

KD could have really been the Webber-ish goat had the refs seen him ask for a time-out late in regulation. The Rockets didn't have any TOs left, so that would have been a technical foul, and the Thunder would have gotten the ball.

"None of the three game officials saw Kevin signal that timeout. That's why it wasn't granted before the expiration of time," crew chief Zach Zarba said.
Title: Re: '25-26 NBA Thread
Post by: JWags85 on October 22, 2025, 11:04:02 AM
Quote from: wadesworld on October 22, 2025, 09:51:18 AMhttps://x.com/DrGuru_/status/1980839867686019174

Smart doing what won him a DPOY on the offensive end is genius.  Might win an MVP doing this.

He's the Brad Davison of the NBA.

He also fouled Jimmy by stepping into and standing underneath him on a jumper, then collapsed to the ground when Jimmy collided with him on his way down to try and draw a flagrant or something.
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Post by: wadesworld on October 22, 2025, 11:41:59 AM
Quote from: JWags85 on October 22, 2025, 11:04:02 AMHe also fouled Jimmy by stepping into and standing underneath him on a jumper, then collapsed to the ground when Jimmy collided with him on his way down to try and draw a flagrant or something.

And tried to pull Steph's arm off of his body.  I now understand why some people are so high on the Lakers as a contender.  I know I don't want Giannis playing on the same court as Marcus Smart.  Lose a game to keep Giannis healthy.

https://x.com/Rate_the_Refs/status/1980834783749181468?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1980834783749181468%7Ctwgr%5E8cababa3a14125425c30451ab0c704db935e8251%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.si.com%2Fnba%2Fmarcus-smart-foul-steph-curry-video
Title: Re: '25-26 NBA Thread
Post by: WhiteTrash on October 22, 2025, 12:11:05 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on October 22, 2025, 11:41:59 AMAnd tried to pull Steph's arm off of his body.  I now understand why some people are so high on the Lakers as a contender.  I know I don't want Giannis playing on the same court as Marcus Smart.  Lose a game to keep Giannis healthy.

https://x.com/Rate_the_Refs/status/1980834783749181468?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1980834783749181468%7Ctwgr%5E8cababa3a14125425c30451ab0c704db935e8251%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.si.com%2Fnba%2Fmarcus-smart-foul-steph-curry-video
First, I 100% agree with this foul call on Smart.

But it is interesting that this type of stuff happened all the time in the 80's and if the refs did anything, it would be to talk to the players and ask them to "cool it".
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Post by: JWags85 on October 22, 2025, 01:47:12 PM
Quote from: WhiteTrash on October 22, 2025, 12:11:05 PMFirst, I 100% agree with this foul call on Smart.

But it is interesting that this type of stuff happened all the time in the 80's and if the refs did anything, it would be to talk to the players and ask them to "cool it".

1) the players are a lot bigger and stronger than in the 80s.  For every Charles Oakley or big enforcer of the 80s, there are numerous guards and small forwards in todays NBA that are freakishly strong in comparison to their 80s counterparts.  Its not a disapragement of talent back then, just a realistic comparison of how nutrition, training, and changing of the makeup of NBA athletes turned out a much bigger and stronger average player.

2) Sports science and medicine has come a long ways as well, so we know a lot more about what actions and events can cause serious and lasting injury and harm and thus need to be watched out for.

Both those things lead to a very different monitoring and policing of the game.
Title: Re: '25-26 NBA Thread
Post by: Jockey on October 22, 2025, 01:51:10 PM
Quote from: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on October 22, 2025, 08:56:06 AMYear 3 and he still can't shoot a lick. At this point, I don't know how anyone can realistically expect it to change.

Very good player but it's a huge hole in his game.

Paul Pressey on steroids.

Also, Sengun will be breakout player of the year. Already very good, but will be top 10 guy in the league this year.
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Post by: JWags85 on October 22, 2025, 02:11:31 PM
Quote from: Jockey on October 22, 2025, 01:51:10 PMPaul Presley on steroids.

Also, Sengun will be breakout player of the year. Already very good, but will be top 10 guy in the league this year.

I'm fully on board with Sengun being one of the most underrated players in the league, he's fantastic.  But I don't know how a guy that averaged 20/10/4.5 the last 2 years and was an All Star will be a breakout player, unless he averages 30 and 15, which I don't think he will.

And I could buy a top 10 player ceiling, he's only 23 after all, but he's a few years away.  He's got that methodical below the rim game like Jokic, but he's not a good enough shooter.  Part of what makes Jokic lethal is he's close to a 40% outside shooter, which lets him space the floor and pass when people are forced close out on him.  Sengun shoots under 30% from deep.  He can develop it, look at Brook Lopez, but he's not there.
Title: Re: '25-26 NBA Thread
Post by: MU82 on October 22, 2025, 04:56:05 PM
Quote from: JWags85 on October 22, 2025, 02:11:31 PMI'm fully on board with Sengun being one of the most underrated players in the league, he's fantastic.  But I don't know how a guy that averaged 20/10/4.5 the last 2 years and was an All Star will be a breakout player, unless he averages 30 and 15, which I don't think he will.

And I could buy a top 10 player ceiling, he's only 23 after all, but he's a few years away.  He's got that methodical below the rim game like Jokic, but he's not a good enough shooter.  Part of what makes Jokic lethal is he's close to a 40% outside shooter, which lets him space the floor and pass when people are forced close out on him.  Sengun shoots under 30% from deep.  He can develop it, look at Brook Lopez, but he's not there.

I've seen a couple of killer dunks by Sengun, so I'm thinking he's more athletic than some give him credit for.
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Post by: JWags85 on October 22, 2025, 07:10:34 PM
Quote from: MU82 on October 22, 2025, 04:56:05 PMI've seen a couple of killer dunks by Sengun, so I'm thinking he's more athletic than some give him credit for.

I don't think he's entirely unathletic, but he's also 6'10 so he can have an 18" vertical and still throw down.  I mean I've seen Jokic catch an alley oop and dunk over people. I just mean he's 23, as young and spry as he'll ever be, and his game is not explosive or quick, even though he plays inside out.
Title: Re: '25-26 NBA Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on October 22, 2025, 08:46:52 PM
Wemby vs Flagg right now. 
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Post by: MuggsyB on October 22, 2025, 09:01:52 PM
Wemby just schooled Flagg and Davis with a hard dribble and then a tomahawk flush.  He's gotten a little stronger.   
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Post by: MuggsyB on October 22, 2025, 09:29:46 PM
Strong debut for Edegecombe. 
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Post by: wadesworld on October 22, 2025, 09:31:28 PM
Bucks might not be a ton better this year, but they'll be more fun to watch.  The ball will actually move and they won't dribble the ball for 20 of 24 seconds on the shot clock.  I'd imagine the locker room will be better with Turner in and Dame, who never wanted to be in Milwaukee and always seemed like he was pouting, out.  And Doc even has a starting lineup that makes sense!

In other Eastern Conference news, I need Embiid to stay healthy.  I said a couple years ago when it was clear Maxey was a stud that the 76ers should trade Embiid and build around Maxey.  They should be getting out and flying as a team, but I need Embiid to stay healthy and slow them down.  A backcourt of Maxey, McCain, and Edgecomb would be awesome in a year or two.
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Post by: wadesworld on October 22, 2025, 09:51:13 PM
Anybody else remember when the dentists proclaimed that Jalen Johnson had ruined his own life because he quit on Duke?
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Post by: MuggsyB on October 22, 2025, 09:55:10 PM
Uhhhhh.....Wemby is making an early statement. 
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Post by: MuggsyB on October 22, 2025, 10:29:34 PM
Wemby is literally making Anthony Davis look like me guarding Davante in the post.  The only thing stopping the young man is cheap fouls.  I'm also wondering why guys would bite on his shot fake?  There is a 0.0% chance you're blocking his shot unless it's from behind before he gets to his release point. 
Title: Re: '25-26 NBA Thread
Post by: CountryRoads on October 22, 2025, 10:35:47 PM
Really good night for the MU guys tonight. Oso looks like he's going to be a major contributor this year.
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Post by: MuggsyB on October 22, 2025, 10:40:05 PM
Quote from: CountryRoads on October 22, 2025, 10:35:47 PMReally good night for the MU guys tonight. Oso looks like he's going to be a major contributor this year.

Nice. 
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Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 23, 2025, 12:46:50 AM
Quote from: CountryRoads on October 22, 2025, 10:35:47 PMReally good night for the MU guys tonight. Oso looks like he's going to be a major contributor this year.

He got the start though he played less minutes than Mark Williams. Way more minutes than Richards. Was surprised that Malauch didn't get off the bench.

Also didn't realize that former Badger Nigel Hayes is finally breaking into the NBA this season. I think he may have had a few 10 day contracts in the past but this is his first "real" NBA contract. Not something that happens to many 30 year olds.
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