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Preseason Player of the Year
Zuby Ejiofor, St. John's, F, Sr., 6-9, 245, Garland, Texas
Preseason Freshman of the Year
Braylon Mullins, UConn, G, Fr., 6-6, 196, Greenfield, Ind.
Preseason All-BIG EAST First Team
Solo Ball, UConn, G, Jr., 6-4, 200, Leesburg, Va.
Alex Karaban, UConn, F, R-Sr., 6-8, 230, Southborough, Mass.
Tarris Reed Jr., UConn, C, Sr., 6-11, 265, St. Louis, Mo.
Owen Freeman, Creighton, F, Jr., 6-10, 240, Moline, Ill.
Chase Ross, Marquette, G, Sr., 6-5, 210, Dallas, Texas
Bryce Hopkins, St. John's, G-F, Sr., 6-7, 220, Oak Park, Ill.
Preseason All-BIG EAST Second Team
Silas Demary, UConn, G, Jr., 6-4, 195, Raleigh, N.C.
Josh Dix, Creighton, G, Sr., 6-6, 205, Council Bluffs, Iowa
KJ Lewis, Georgetown, G, Jr., 6-4, 210, El Paso, Texas
Jason Edwards, Providence, Gr., G, 6-1, 180, Atlanta, Ga.
Ian Jackson, St. John's, G, So., 6-5, 195, Bronx, N.Y.
Preseason All-BIG EAST Third Team
Nik Graves, Creighton, G, Sr., 6-2, 190, Durham, N.C.
Jackson McAndrew, Creighton, So., F, 6-10, 225, Wayzata, Minn.
CJ Gunn, DePaul, Sr., G, 6-7, 200, Indianapolis, Ind.
Malik Mack, Georgetown, G, Jr., 6-2, 175, Oxon Hill, Md.
Oswin Erhunmwunse, Providence, F, So., 6-10, 235, Benin City, Nigeria
Dillon Mitchell, St. John's, F, Sr. 6-8, 210, Tampa, Fla.
Joson Sanon, St. John's, G, So., 6-5, 200, Fall River, Mass
Weird not to include the player of the year on the All-Big East team, but whatevs.
Nice to see Chase getting a lot of respect. I look forward to seeing another Marquette player or two outperform some of the guys named to the second and third All-BE teams.
https://x.com/DalyDoseOfHoops/status/1980637310778765708?t=sfP21csDeg9cycHidb9rnQ&s=19
https://x.com/DalyDoseOfHoops/status/1980637889135538349?t=DSxelBfKrj0BBbjnKH4Ktw&s=19
https://x.com/DalyDoseOfHoops/status/1980638302568083829?t=B_ey5GdG02LRbK6eC8LyoA&s=19
https://x.com/DalyDoseOfHoops/status/1980638508604883295?t=Do_fo6PrnELAOHFb7oyjdw&s=19
https://x.com/ByJohnLeuzzi/status/1980646733689524426?t=k9DzCxGebPzyuJpQ2H7rAg&s=19
The legend of Fetch Hamilton is growing.
Quote from: MU82 on October 21, 2025, 09:32:06 AMWeird not to include the player of the year on the All-Big East team, but whatevs.
Nice to see Chase getting a lot of respect. I look forward to seeing another Marquette player or two outperform some of the guys named to the second and third All-BE teams.
no it isn't good players play for good teams, and good players win. It is weird to include providence players however
Quote from: MU82 on October 21, 2025, 09:32:06 AMWeird not to include the player of the year on the All-Big East team, but whatevs.
Also confused with the first team having six players, the second team having five, and the third team having seven.
If Ross turns out to be that good we probably a fringe top 25 team
Quote from: TallTitan34 on October 21, 2025, 12:38:13 PMAlso confused with the first team having six players, the second team having five, and the third team having seven.
Ties in voting?
The cynic in me says Danny Hurley had a role.
Quote from: Johnny B on October 21, 2025, 12:42:50 PMIf Ross turns out to be that good we probably a fringe top 25 team
If Shaka isn't just blowing smoke about the improvement of Hamilton and Zaide, possibly more.
https://x.com/MarquetteMBB/status/1980706643248873881?t=OsGmiD1cjsXA6z9rLOXV6A&s=19
https://youtu.be/rt5IdhD3SRQ?si=V59OTgU9vXUiXp1v
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Quote from: tower912 on October 21, 2025, 01:32:08 PMIf Shaka isn't just blowing smoke about the improvement of Hamilton and Zaide, possibly more.
Doubt Shaka plays that game.
Quote from: brewcity77 on October 21, 2025, 09:54:46 AMThe legend of Fetch Hamilton is growing.
Any chance Caedin starts at the 5, with Ben at the 4 or is Ben the 5 and Royce the 4?
Prior to media day, I was positive Ben was the 5. I still lean that way but am no lo ger 100%. I believed Josh and Caedin would combine for maybe 20 minutes per game. I now think that number is higher. There are 80 minutes at the 4/5. 27 each for Royce and Ben, 26 for Josh/Caedin.
Quote from: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on October 21, 2025, 07:48:47 PMAny chance Caedin starts at the 5, with Ben at the 4 or is Ben the 5 and Royce the 4?
Until I see it, I'm chalking it up to coach speak, but if Caedin can be starter level at the 5, that changes us radically. Ben's skillset probably makes him a better offensive fit at the 4 and he could really be a defensive boon with that length on the perimeter and help side shot blocking. Not to mention how Royce would be a perfect 2-5 backup (not that he'd play the 2 but he could replace Chase or Zaide & the other would slide to the 2).
Hamilton, Gold, Parham, Ross, Owens.
get that short stuff off my court
Don't forget Wemby and Chet!
Thanks for the response Brew.
I'm guessing Caedin has improved enough to be a decent backup, as opposed to the limited version we had last year.
After media day, I'm sensing these 9 players are the main rotation:
PG Sean Jones
SG Chase Ross
SF Zaide Lowery
PF Royce Parham
C Ben Gold
Bench
PG Nigel James
SG Adrien Stevens
SF Damarius Owens
C Caedin Hamilton
Josh Clark might be used situationally as the 3rd C, but I'm expecting his minutes to be sparse just as Caedin's were last year. The rest of the players are deep on the bench.
My guess:
1: Sean Jones
2: Chase Ross
3: Zaide Lowery
4: Ben Gold
5: Caedin Hamilton
First guys off the bench:
Royce Parham
Nigel James
Tre Norman
Damarius Owens
Occasional subs:
Adrien Stevens
Joshua Clark
Garbage Minutes/Possible Redshirt:
Ian Miletic
Michael Phillips II
Redshirt:
Sheek Pearson
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 21, 2025, 11:48:02 PMMy guess:
1: Sean Jones
2: Chase Ross
3: Zaide Lowery
4: Ben Gold
5: Caedin Hamilton
First guys off the bench:
Royce Parham
Nigel James
Tre Norman
Damarius Owens
Occasional subs:
Adrien Stevens
Joshua Clark
Garbage Minutes/Possible Redshirt:
Ian Miletic
Michael Phillips II
Redshirt:
Sheek Pearson
Adrien will quickly take up Tre's minutes if Tre can't make open shots. Shaka referred to Adrien as a physically tough guard and good shooter today at media day.
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 21, 2025, 11:48:02 PMMy guess:
1: Sean Jones
2: Chase Ross
3: Zaide Lowery
4: Ben Gold
5: Caedin Hamilton
First guys off the bench:
Royce Parham
Nigel James
Tre Norman
Damarius Owens
Occasional subs:
Adrien Stevens
Joshua Clark
Garbage Minutes/Possible Redshirt:
Ian Miletic
Michael Phillips II
Redshirt:
Sheek Pearson
I'll be very surprised if Parham doesn't start and if Stevens only gets occasional minutes off the bench.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on October 22, 2025, 12:25:37 AMAdrien will quickly take up Tre's minutes if Tre can't make open shots. Shaka referred to Adrien as a physically tough guard and good shooter today at media day.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on October 22, 2025, 12:28:58 AMI'll be very surprised if Parham doesn't start and if Stevens only gets occasional minutes off the bench.
I'm very high on Adrien. I've been very high on him since we started recruiting him. I don't think it's often that true freshman are ready to play the way Shaka wants them to. I'll bet on the third year guy at this point.
Royce, it's not a knock on him at all. I believe in the Zaide hype and I think that gets him a starting spot. I think Chase and Ben are locks to start. You need a PG so that leaves only one starting spot. I don't believe in Caedin yet. I'm gonna need to see to believe. But Shaka has been consistently pushing the Caedin train. I'm translating that as "Caedin starts with Ben at the 4." Could definitely be wrong, but that's my guess. I also think that Royce can thrive in a "sophomore Joplin BE6MOY" type role.
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 21, 2025, 11:48:02 PMMy guess:
1: Sean Jones
2: Chase Ross
3: Zaide Lowery
4: Ben Gold
5: Caedin Hamilton
First guys off the bench:
Royce Parham
Nigel James
Tre Norman
Damarius Owens
Occasional subs:
Adrien Stevens
Joshua Clark
Garbage Minutes/Possible Redshirt:
Ian Miletic
Michael Phillips II
Redshirt:
Sheek Pearson
Agree with this based on the comments from media day. Only change I'd make is bumping Stevens into the "first guys off the bench" group. Think he'll be a more of a regular rotation player for us, but we'll see if they truly go 10 deep.
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 21, 2025, 11:48:02 PMMy guess:
1: Sean Jones
2: Chase Ross
3: Zaide Lowery
4: Ben Gold
5: Caedin Hamilton
First guys off the bench:
Royce Parham
Nigel James
Tre Norman
Damarius Owens
Occasional subs:
Adrien Stevens
Joshua Clark
Garbage Minutes/Possible Redshirt:
Ian Miletic
Michael Phillips II
Redshirt:
Sheek Pearson
I'm holding out skepticism on Fetch until I see it happen, but this feels about right. The two interchangeable bits are likely Hamilton/Parham if Fetch isn't ready and Norman/Stevens if the freshman can take Tre's minutes (which Shaka was happy to give away down the stretch last year).
Quote from: brewcity77 on October 22, 2025, 08:15:10 AMI'm holding out skepticism on Fetch until I see it happen, but this feels about right. The two interchangeable bits are likely Hamilton/Parham if Fetch isn't ready and Norman/Stevens if the freshman can take Tre's minutes (which Shaka was happy to give away down the stretch last year).
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Opened one of those clickbait articles (forgive me, Pope Leo)about worst fan bases across the sport spectrum. MU did not make the top 25. I have to believe they were in the 'others receiving votes' section.
I think Adrien is already ahead of Tre. Adrien has played well in the two public scrimmages. He has a college ready body, defends well, and shoots well enough.
Tre looks like more of the same that we've seen for the past two years. His shot and all around offensive game are still lacking.
Plus, Shaka has consistently mentioned Adrien along side Nigel as freshman ready to play. We haven't heard anything about Tre. Shaka's praised Zaide, Caedin, Nigel, and Adrien but no mention of Tre. If Tre was in the guard rotation, I would think Shaka would say something, like "Hey, Tre Norman has improved. He can give us minutes."
I expect Tre to be in the 10/11 range with Josh Clark. Guys who play spot minutes. Tre can at least provide solid defense in a limited role, but I just am not a believer in his offense.
It would be truly remarkable if the Caedin we saw last year has morphed into a starting BE center. Gotta think Royce is a starter. If CH has truly made a remarkable jump then in the words of the peasant witnessing Lady Godiva's ride (she rode sidesaddle), "Bully for our side!"
Unless Tre has zero desire to leave/play I have a tough time imagining he wouldn't see the writing on the wall for minutes if Adrien was ahead of him right now. Not saying it won't happen eventually but I imagine he's talked with Shaka and was basically told "floor time is yours to lose" so to start the year I'm agreeing with TAMU's rotation. As the year goes on it may change.
Trilly mentioned Miletic is a possible redshirt. Which makes sense as he needs to get stronger to compete in Big East.
Personally, I doubt Shaka told Tre minutes were "his to lose". I think the only guys that were 100% guaranteed starting spots were Chase and Ben.
It's also possible Tre really values being a part of the program regardless of his minutes.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on October 22, 2025, 10:47:48 AMPersonally, I doubt Shaka told Tre minutes were "his to lose". I think the only guys that were 100% guaranteed starting spots were Chase and Ben.
It's also possible Tre really values being a part of the program regardless of his minutes.
Tre also values his NIL along with being part of the program I would bet.
Quote from: MUbiz on October 22, 2025, 10:46:37 AMTrilly mentioned Miletic is a possible redshirt. Which makes sense as he needs to get stronger to compete in Big East.
Wouldn't surprise me. His defense in HS was nowhere near BE ready.
I think I missed something. Where did "Fetch" come from? Is that what Hamilton's teammates call him for whatever reason?
And where was Hamilto on all of those minutes projections? Along with Ramsey, he'll be the key to our season.
Quote from: MU82 on October 22, 2025, 11:59:53 AMI think I missed something. Where did "Fetch" come from? Is that what Hamilton's teammates call him for whatever reason?
In the movie Mean Girls, a character tries to make the word "fetch" popular as a substitute for "cool" or "awesome". Another character tells her to stop because it's never going to happen (see GIF above).
I may be mistaken, but I believe Brew is referring to MU's promotion of Caedin as them "trying to make fetch happen".
Thanks for the explanation. I had no idea where that reference came from.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on October 22, 2025, 12:14:21 PMIn the movie Mean Girls, a character tries to make the word "fetch" popular as a substitute for "cool" or "awesome". Another character tells her to stop because it's never going to happen (see GIF above).
I may be mistaken, but I believe Brew is referring to MU's promotion of Caedin as them "trying to make fetch happen".
This is entirely it. After last year, the idea of Caedin starting alongside Ben seems nuts, but so far Fetch has been named Domino of the Week three times and is one of the first names out of Shaka's mouth whenever he talks about this team.
Last year, we heard he would be a bit part of the rotation and that never really came to be. I think him being a Big East starting level center could be transformational for this squad, but remain skeptical. So I'm reserving judgment until I see Fetch happen.
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Yeah, an absolutely HUUUUGE transformation would be required for him to play significant minutes, let alone start. He was so hesitant and played further under the rim than Muggsy last year.
Quote from: brewcity77 on October 22, 2025, 04:17:48 PMThis is entirely it. After last year, the idea of Caedin starting alongside Ben seems nuts, but so far Fetch has been named Domino of the Week three times and is one of the first names out of Shaka's mouth whenever he talks about this team.
Last year, we heard he would be a bit part of the rotation and that never really came to be. I think him being a Big East starting level center could be transformational for this squad, but remain skeptical. So I'm reserving judgment until I see Fetch happen.
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Thanks for the info, brew (and for the explanation, Titan), but Fetch ain't gonna happen except in your mind!
Quote from: MU82 on October 22, 2025, 05:05:46 PMThanks for the info, brew (and for the explanation, Titan), but Fetch ain't gonna happen except in your mind!
I hear Caeden has been eating these new bars from Sweden or something
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on October 22, 2025, 04:22:38 PMYeah, an absolutely HUUUUGE transformation would be required for him to play significant minutes, let alone start. He was so hesitant and played further under the rim than Muggsy last year.
Agreed. Huge transformation needed.
Shaka said his improved handle and passing could replicate what Oso gave them from the 5. I can see glimpses of why Shaka would say his passing could get to Oso's level. But even with an improved handle, he doesn't appear to have the quick first step that Oso had to blow by defenders with the bounce or to get quick lobs at the rim when defenders sagged off.
He flashed some potential for sure. Hopefully he is much improved.
I dont know that Id say Caedin is a Big East starting 5 yet, but he did look ALOT better than last year in the open scrimmage a couple weeks ago. I didnt buy the hype last year and was hesitant again this year, but I thought he was pretty noticeably better.
I don't remember all that much hype about Caedin this time last year. I remember talk that he could provide depth, a little toughness and fouls at the 5. Certainly nothing close to what Shaka is saying about him now.
Quote from: MU82 on October 22, 2025, 11:59:53 AMI think I missed something. Where did "Fetch" come from? Is that what Hamilton's teammates call him for whatever reason?
And where was Hamilto on all of those minutes projections? Along with Ramsey, he'll be the key to our season.
Nicely done, I'm impressed with the bites you managed with this one.
Quote from: MU82 on October 22, 2025, 11:59:53 AMI think I missed something. Where did "Fetch" come from? Is that what Hamilton's teammates call him for whatever reason?
And where was Hamilto on all of those minutes projections? Along with Ramsey, he'll be the key to our season.
Nicely done, I'm impressed with the bites you managed with this one.
Quote from: 1318WWells on October 22, 2025, 07:45:26 PMAgreed. Huge transformation needed.
Shaka said his improved handle and passing could replicate what Oso gave them from the 5. I can see glimpses of why Shaka would say his passing could get to Oso's level. But even with an improved handle, he doesn't appear to have the quick first step that Oso had to blow by defenders with the bounce or to get quick lobs at the rim when defenders sagged off.
Yeah for sure. Oso is also outrageously athletic. Caedin is not that guy.
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 21, 2025, 11:48:02 PMMy guess:
1: Sean Jones
2: Chase Ross
3: Zaide Lowery
4: Ben Gold
5: Caedin Hamilton
First guys off the bench:
Royce Parham
Nigel James
Tre Norman
Damarius Owens
Occasional subs:
Adrien Stevens
Joshua Clark
Garbage Minutes/Possible Redshirt:
Ian Miletic
Michael Phillips II
Redshirt:
Sheek Pearson
After open practice today, I think I'm upgrading Clark to the main rotation. Might need to go ten deep this season.
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 23, 2025, 09:24:03 PMAfter open practice today, I think I'm upgrading Clark to the main rotation. Might need to go ten deep this season.
What did you see today to make you say that, TAMU?
Quote from: MU82 on October 23, 2025, 10:29:25 PMWhat did you see today to make you say that, TAMU?
Caeden wasn't fetch
Quote from: MU82 on October 23, 2025, 10:29:25 PMWhat did you see today to make you say that, TAMU?
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