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Title: KenPom Coaching Factor
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on October 10, 2025, 04:41:52 PM
A new addition to the KenPom formula this year.  Shaka checks in at 14.

https://x.com/CamLemons_/status/1976724412805067048?t=QMmmhWpyJdMYBMBTtFzpLw&s=19
Title: Re: KenPom Coaching Factor
Post by: MU82 on October 10, 2025, 04:45:16 PM
Nice. Guaranteed top-4 seed!
Title: Re: KenPom Coaching Factor
Post by: PointWarrior on October 10, 2025, 04:52:22 PM
Great - another Kenpom bias for Wisconsin
Title: Re: KenPom Coaching Factor
Post by: cheebs09 on October 11, 2025, 12:33:58 PM
Clearly Greg Gard is off the charts.
Title: Re: KenPom Coaching Factor
Post by: mileskishnish72 on October 12, 2025, 09:48:13 AM
No love for Izzo.
Title: Re: KenPom Coaching Factor
Post by: MuMark on October 12, 2025, 12:49:56 PM
New pomeroy rankings out for 2025

Plenty of room for Shaka to overachieve his preseason ranking again

https://kenpom.com/index.php
Title: Re: KenPom Coaching Factor
Post by: mileskishnish72 on October 12, 2025, 12:59:27 PM
Quote from: MuMark on October 12, 2025, 12:49:56 PMNew pomeroy rankings out for 2025

Plenty of room for Shaka to overachieve his preseason ranking again

https://kenpom.com/index.php
The gaping gap.
Title: Re: KenPom Coaching Factor
Post by: wadesworld on October 12, 2025, 01:54:49 PM
Quote from: MuMark on October 12, 2025, 12:49:56 PMNew pomeroy rankings out for 2025

Plenty of room for Shaka to overachieve his preseason ranking again

https://kenpom.com/index.php

Scrimmage win over Mizzou seems to have been ignored. Unacceptable.
Title: Re: KenPom Coaching Factor
Post by: willie warrior on October 12, 2025, 06:35:12 PM
Quote from: mileskishnish72 on October 12, 2025, 12:59:27 PMThe gaping gap.
Hmmmm...
The gap has widened. Cue up some smart ass comments in 2..1..
Title: Re: KenPom Coaching Factor
Post by: wadesworld on October 12, 2025, 06:42:12 PM
Quote from: willie warrior on October 12, 2025, 06:35:12 PMHmmmm...
The gap has widened. Cue up some smart ass comments in 2..1..

He says, following the smartass comment that went right over his head.
Title: Re: KenPom Coaching Factor
Post by: Uncle Rico on October 12, 2025, 07:05:53 PM
Quote from: willie warrior on October 12, 2025, 06:35:12 PMHmmmm...
The gap has widened. Cue up some smart ass comments in 2..1..

Thanks, Warren
Title: Re: KenPom Coaching Factor
Post by: burger on October 12, 2025, 09:02:44 PM
I have no problem us being 47.....I have big problem Providence being 48.....

That's a joke.....
Title: Re: KenPom Coaching Factor
Post by: brewcity77 on October 13, 2025, 06:08:16 AM
Quote from: burger on October 12, 2025, 09:02:44 PMI have no problem us being 47.....I have big problem Providence being 48.....

That's a joke.....

I think it's about right for Providence. While I have questions about Kim, they have a solid roster. No excuses in Friartown this year.
Title: Re: KenPom Coaching Factor
Post by: Uncle Rico on October 13, 2025, 07:59:32 AM
Quote from: burger on October 12, 2025, 09:02:44 PMI have no problem us being 47.....I have big problem Providence being 48.....

That's a joke.....

Why?
Title: Re: KenPom Coaching Factor
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on October 13, 2025, 08:13:49 AM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 13, 2025, 07:59:32 AMWhy?

No G-A-P.
Title: Re: KenPom Coaching Factor
Post by: Uncle Rico on October 13, 2025, 08:23:03 AM
Quote from: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on October 13, 2025, 08:13:49 AMNo G-A-P.

If we can't outgap Providence, why field a team?!?

Seriously, I'm curious to why Burger feels that way.  He could be right but I kind of like to know how he got to that conclusion.  I admit, I haven't given Providence much thought as we near the season, so some thoughts on them would be interesting since I don't google
Title: Re: KenPom Coaching Factor
Post by: tower912 on October 13, 2025, 08:37:21 AM
Brew will provide.
Title: Re: KenPom Coaching Factor
Post by: Uncle Rico on October 13, 2025, 12:05:28 PM
Quote from: tower912 on October 13, 2025, 08:37:21 AMBrew will provide.

I don't read links. Thank you
Title: Re: KenPom Coaching Factor
Post by: The Sultan on October 13, 2025, 12:06:08 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 13, 2025, 12:05:28 PMI don't read links. Thank you

Unless they are to the New York Post of course.
Title: Re: KenPom Coaching Factor
Post by: hawk on October 16, 2025, 12:10:07 PM
I have no problem seeing MU at 47.  Evrythinh I see is pretty well in line with realistic expectations.  U Conn  St. John and Creighton as BE 1-3 MU  Nova and Providence aasthe next 3.  ESPN has MU as a 10 seed.  I think it is a good place to begin.  Play some games and see how it shakes out.
Title: Re: KenPom Coaching Factor
Post by: MU82 on October 16, 2025, 01:29:16 PM
Quote from: hawk on October 16, 2025, 12:10:07 PMI have no problem seeing MU at 47.  Evrythinh I see is pretty well in line with realistic expectations.  U Conn  St. John and Creighton as BE 1-3 MU  Nova and Providence aasthe next 3.  ESPN has MU as a 10 seed.  I think it is a good place to begin.  Play some games and see how it shakes out.

I think we will overachieve and Creighton will underachieve ... but I acknowledge that bias and hope might be going into that thinking a little bit!
Title: Re: KenPom Coaching Factor
Post by: Uncle Rico on October 16, 2025, 01:50:25 PM
Quote from: MU82 on October 16, 2025, 01:29:16 PMI think we will overachieve and Creighton will underachieve ... but I acknowledge that bias and hope might be going into that thinking a little bit!

Creighton will be interesting to watch. Without Kalk in the middle, I'm thinking they revert to Creighton defense of old which was pedestrian at best.  No doubt the offense will have an opportunity to be quite good, but I won't be surprised if they end up being the most overrated team to start the season from the Big East
Title: Re: KenPom Coaching Factor
Post by: hawk on October 16, 2025, 09:19:36 PM
The key is to win the games against the teams you are better than.  Given that, if MU goes 0-6 vs the top three and 2-2 against the teams around them (Nova and Providence) and sweep the bottome 5 thats 12-8.  I'd take that at the strt of the season.  The qustion is what team(s) above them do they beat and what if any teams bellow them do they lose to?  Creighton at home seems doable and It would not entirely surprise me if MU beats St.Johns or U Conn at home.  Must be careful with the bottom 5 could be a lose down there spmeplace.
Title: Re: KenPom Coaching Factor
Post by: LloydsLegs on October 20, 2025, 12:21:45 PM
Quote from: hawk on October 16, 2025, 09:19:36 PMThe key is to win the games against the teams you are better than.  Given that, if MU goes 0-6 vs the top three and 2-2 against the teams around them (Nova and Providence) and sweep the bottome 5 thats 12-8.  I'd take that at the strt of the season.  The qustion is what team(s) above them do they beat and what if any teams bellow them do they lose to?  Creighton at home seems doable and It would not entirely surprise me if MU beats St.Johns or U Conn at home.  Must be careful with the bottom 5 could be a lose down there spmeplace.

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