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Title: 2027 Maui
Post by: PBRme on October 09, 2025, 03:35:31 PM
https://www.wholehogsports.com/news/2024/feb/22/arkansas-basketball-2027-maui-invitational/

Looks like invites are out

Arkansas last went in 2022

Title: Re: 2027 Maui
Post by: Galway Eagle on October 09, 2025, 03:44:09 PM
I'm confused, are we playing there in 2027?
Title: Re: 2027 Maui
Post by: Its DJOver on October 09, 2025, 03:47:46 PM
Article from February of 2024 featuring a picture of Eric Mussleman.


QuoteArkansas' involvement in the tournament was discovered through a Freedom of Information Act request. Neither the program nor the Maui Invitational have officially announced the team's involvement. The contract was finalized earlier this month.

Seems flimsy at best.  Just let the chips fall as they may.  I'm sure we will be back at some point.
Title: Re: 2027 Maui
Post by: The Sultan on October 09, 2025, 04:02:36 PM
I'm not sure how interested we really are in these tournaments any longer.
Title: Re: 2027 Maui
Post by: Johnny B on October 09, 2025, 05:20:36 PM
Quote from: The Sultan on October 09, 2025, 04:02:36 PMI'm not sure how interested we really are in these tournaments any longer.
It's been the premier early season tournament for a long time and it's usally been a blast. Dan Hurley didn't enjoy it last year and now the "feel" is a ton teams and coaches aren't interested anymore?
Title: Re: 2027 Maui
Post by: Uncle Rico on October 09, 2025, 05:41:44 PM
Quote from: Johnny B on October 09, 2025, 05:20:36 PMIt's been the premier early season tournament for a long time and it's usally been a blast. Dan Hurley didn't enjoy it last year and now the "feel" is a ton teams and coaches aren't interested anymore?

It's a money loser for schools
Title: Re: 2027 Maui
Post by: brewcity77 on October 09, 2025, 06:07:54 PM
Quote from: Johnny B on October 09, 2025, 05:20:36 PMIt's been the premier early season tournament for a long time and it's usally been a blast. Dan Hurley didn't enjoy it last year and now the "feel" is a ton teams and coaches aren't interested anymore?

What Rico said, but also in the past while you lost money going out there the thought was the exposure was worth it. This year, Marquette is prioritizing neutral court games because they come out ahead financially and have more control over timing and location.

Further, with the advent of NIL we're seeing events like the Players' Era with money for the teams involved attached to it. How sustainable that is long-term remains to be seen, but they're clearly trying to turn it into a veritable college basketball Champions' League.

I expect the destination type MTEs to wither over time. It's unfortunate, because it's a great part of the sport, but at this point feels inevitable because of NIL and the constant profit mindset pervading collegiate sports.
Title: Re: 2027 Maui
Post by: muwarrior69 on October 09, 2025, 06:37:20 PM
Quote from: brewcity77 on October 09, 2025, 06:07:54 PMWhat Rico said, but also in the past while you lost money going out there the thought was the exposure was worth it. This year, Marquette is prioritizing neutral court games because they come out ahead financially and have more control over timing and location.

Further, with the advent of NIL we're seeing events like the Players' Era with money for the teams involved attached to it. How sustainable that is long-term remains to be seen, but they're clearly trying to turn it into a veritable college basketball Champions' League.

I expect the destination type MTEs to wither over time. It's unfortunate, because it's a great part of the sport, but at this point feels inevitable because of NIL and the constant profit mindset pervading collegiate sports.

I missed the Great Alaska Shootout. Some great games.
Title: Re: 2027 Maui
Post by: 79Warrior on October 09, 2025, 06:39:17 PM
Quote from: Johnny B on October 09, 2025, 05:20:36 PMIt's been the premier early season tournament for a long time and it's usally been a blast. Dan Hurley didn't enjoy it last year and now the "feel" is a ton teams and coaches aren't interested anymore?

If we get an invite we will go.Great trip for team and fans.
Title: Re: 2027 Maui
Post by: MU82 on October 09, 2025, 07:39:45 PM
I thought folks were saying Marquette would still be open to going to the big ones, such as Maui. But I certainly could be mistaken.
Title: Re: 2027 Maui
Post by: Shaka Shart on October 10, 2025, 12:05:02 AM
They won't even travel across to street to play our rival UWM. Why would they go to Maui
Title: Re: 2027 Maui
Post by: #UnleashJosh on October 10, 2025, 12:37:43 AM
Quote from: Shaka Shart on October 10, 2025, 12:05:02 AMThey won't even travel across to street to play our rival UWM. Why would they go to Maui
Jesus christ, im pretty sure I've doxxed who you are based on this very specific statement.
Title: Re: 2027 Maui
Post by: Shaka Shart on October 10, 2025, 10:42:53 AM
Quote from: #UnleashSean on October 10, 2025, 12:37:43 AMJesus christ, im pretty sure I've doxxed who you are based on this very specific statement.

Doxxing Jesus Christ? Did you figure out the address for Heaven?
Title: Re: 2027 Maui
Post by: MU82 on October 10, 2025, 10:44:14 AM
Quote from: Shaka Shart on October 10, 2025, 10:42:53 AMDoxxing Jesus Christ? Did you figure out the address for Heaven?

keefe called Heaven's HR department.
Title: Re: 2027 Maui
Post by: tower912 on October 10, 2025, 11:39:13 AM
Heaven
Is a place
Where nothing ever happens
Title: Re: 2027 Maui
Post by: MuMark on October 10, 2025, 03:37:36 PM
Quote from: tower912 on October 10, 2025, 11:39:13 AMHeaven
Is a place
Where nothing ever happens

That was before Sister Jean arrived...........
Title: Re: 2027 Maui
Post by: Johnny B on October 10, 2025, 04:41:48 PM
Bring back the yearly uwm showdown
Title: Re: 2027 Maui
Post by: mug644 on October 10, 2025, 05:17:35 PM
Quote from: Johnny B on October 10, 2025, 04:41:48 PMBring back the yearly uwm showdown shutdown

Fixed it for you. What fun it would be to extend the unbeaten streak for many more years!
Title: Re: 2027 Maui
Post by: brewcity77 on October 10, 2025, 08:20:48 PM
Rothstein just tweeted they have 6 teams committed to the 2027 Maui field:

Georgetown
SMU
Utah
Saint Mary's
Saint Louis
Chaminade

Last two teams are TBD, but that is a massive yikes. Pretty sure the destination MTEs are going the way of the dodo.
Title: Re: 2027 Maui
Post by: The Sultan on October 10, 2025, 09:35:45 PM
Quote from: brewcity77 on October 10, 2025, 08:20:48 PMRothstein just tweeted they have 6 teams committed to the 2027 Maui field:

Georgetown
SMU
Utah
Saint Mary's
Saint Louis
Chaminade

Last two teams are TBD, but that is a massive yikes. Pretty sure the destination MTEs are going the way of the dodo.

Yup.
Title: Re: 2027 Maui
Post by: MU82 on October 11, 2025, 01:23:22 AM
Quote from: brewcity77 on October 10, 2025, 08:20:48 PMRothstein just tweeted they have 6 teams committed to the 2027 Maui field:

Georgetown
SMU
Utah
Saint Mary's
Saint Louis
Chaminade

Last two teams are TBD, but that is a massive yikes. Pretty sure the destination MTEs are going the way of the dodo.

Wow. Too bad. Was a great, fun event for a long time.
Title: Re: 2027 Maui
Post by: Uncle Rico on October 11, 2025, 07:18:39 AM
Quote from: brewcity77 on October 10, 2025, 08:20:48 PMRothstein just tweeted they have 6 teams committed to the 2027 Maui field:

Georgetown
SMU
Utah
Saint Mary's
Saint Louis
Chaminade

Last two teams are TBD, but that is a massive yikes. Pretty sure the destination MTEs are going the way of the dodo.

St. Louis proving it belongs in the Big East.  Shorthoops vindicated
Title: Re: 2027 Maui
Post by: cheebs09 on October 11, 2025, 12:36:13 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 11, 2025, 07:18:39 AMSt. Louis proving it belongs in the Big East.  Shorthoops vindicated

Probably negotiating with St Thomas as one the TBDs.
Title: Re: 2027 Maui
Post by: jfp61 on October 11, 2025, 02:53:38 PM
Quote from: brewcity77 on October 10, 2025, 08:20:48 PMRothstein just tweeted they have 6 teams committed to the 2027 Maui field:

Georgetown
SMU
Utah
Saint Mary's
Saint Louis
Chaminade

Last two teams are TBD, but that is a massive yikes. Pretty sure the destination MTEs are going the way of the dodo.

No one except Vegas pays... so the costs don't make sense.
Title: Re: 2027 Maui
Post by: The Sultan on October 11, 2025, 03:42:16 PM
Quote from: cheebs09 on October 11, 2025, 12:36:13 PMProbably negotiating with St Thomas as one the TBDs.

I bet Marquette gets booted for those two. Thanks Shaka!
Title: Re: 2027 Maui
Post by: MU82 on October 11, 2025, 04:55:44 PM
Quote from: jfp61 on October 11, 2025, 02:53:38 PMNo one except Vegas pays... so the costs don't make sense.

The Nike event in Oregon is no more?
Title: Re: 2027 Maui
Post by: jfp61 on October 11, 2025, 06:24:15 PM
Quote from: MU82 on October 11, 2025, 04:55:44 PMThe Nike event in Oregon is no more?

Oregon is in the vegas tourney
Title: Re: 2027 Maui
Post by: MU82 on October 11, 2025, 06:55:20 PM
Quote from: jfp61 on October 11, 2025, 06:24:15 PMOregon is in the vegas tourney

Ah, thanks.
Title: Re: 2027 Maui
Post by: brewcity77 on October 11, 2025, 08:32:30 PM
Quote from: MU82 on October 11, 2025, 04:55:44 PMThe Nike event in Oregon is no more?

Good question. We'll see, it's every 5 years for Phil Knight's birthday (hence PK80, PK85). Last one was 2022; not hearing about it makes me think it's done.
Title: Re: 2027 Maui
Post by: Billy Hoyle on October 14, 2025, 09:54:35 AM
Quote from: brewcity77 on October 11, 2025, 08:32:30 PMGood question. We'll see, it's every 5 years for Phil Knight's birthday (hence PK80, PK85). Last one was 2022; not hearing about it makes me think it's done.

It may depend on whether PK is still alive next year. The 2022 one wasn't announced until 2021, so it's possible PK90 could be announced for 2027.

I asked a friend who runs the Players Era why MU hasn't been invited. He said they have reached out and want us, but MU is booked for MTEs for the next few years.
Title: Re: 2027 Maui
Post by: brewcity77 on October 14, 2025, 10:54:54 AM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on October 14, 2025, 09:54:35 AMIt may depend on whether PK is still alive next year. The 2022 one wasn't announced until 2021, so it's possible PK90 could be announced for 2027.

I asked a friend who runs the Players Era why MU hasn't been invited. He said they have reached out and want us, but MU is booked for MTEs for the next few years.

Marquette was invited but thus far isn't interested, from what I'm told.
Title: Re: 2027 Maui
Post by: Billy Hoyle on October 14, 2025, 11:13:01 AM
Quote from: brewcity77 on October 14, 2025, 10:54:54 AMMarquette was invited but thus far isn't interested, from what I'm told.

because they are committed to other tournaments for the next few years.
Title: Re: 2027 Maui
Post by: brewcity77 on October 14, 2025, 11:41:54 AM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on October 14, 2025, 11:13:01 AMbecause they are committed to other tournaments for the next few years.

This isn't accurate. Maybe someone was told this, but Marquette isn't committed to any future MTEs.

At this point, Marquette isn't interested in Players' Era period.
Title: Re: 2027 Maui
Post by: Jay Bee on October 14, 2025, 12:05:29 PM
Understanding is that the reluctance stems from university administration's concern about the ability of the MU fanbase to behave in Nevada.
Title: Re: 2027 Maui
Post by: MU82 on October 14, 2025, 12:11:07 PM
Quote from: brewcity77 on October 14, 2025, 11:41:54 AMThis isn't accurate. Maybe someone was told this, but Marquette isn't committed to any future MTEs.

At this point, Marquette isn't interested in Players' Era period.

Seriously, why?
Title: Re: 2027 Maui
Post by: mug644 on October 14, 2025, 12:42:15 PM
Quote from: Jay Bee on October 14, 2025, 12:05:29 PMUnderstanding is that the reluctance stems from university administration's concern about the ability of the MU fanbase to behave in Nevada.

It's why I won't go to Vegas.
Title: Re: 2027 Maui
Post by: DienerTime34 on October 14, 2025, 01:55:58 PM
I'll be happy to not play in Maui just to avoid weeks of Dodds explaining why Marquette isn't playing well due to timezone adjustment.
Title: Re: 2027 Maui
Post by: wadesworld on October 14, 2025, 02:52:51 PM
Quote from: DienerTime34 on October 14, 2025, 01:55:58 PMI'll be happy to not play in Maui just to avoid weeks of Dodds explaining why Marquette isn't playing well due to timezone adjustment.

Timezone adjustment?  I thought he'd be way more about the shooting background adjustment going from a smaller than a high school gym to an NBA arena.
Title: Re: 2027 Maui
Post by: mu_eyeballs on October 14, 2025, 07:43:01 PM
If Maui is on the ropes...I guess it is likely a NIL cash strapped issue...It is sad and what a quick drop from prominence.  The event 2 years ago had what 6 top 25 teams and 4 top 8?  It was also an incredible event that was a lot of fun to go to.
Title: Re: 2027 Maui
Post by: Nukem2 on October 14, 2025, 09:25:42 PM
Quote from: mu_eyeballs on October 14, 2025, 07:43:01 PMIf Maui is on the ropes...I guess it is likely a NIL cash strapped issue...It is sad and what a quick drop from prominence.  The event 2 years ago had what 6 top 25 teams and 4 top 8?  It was also an incredible event that was a lot of fun to go to.
NIL really isn't that much of a thing anymore following the House settlement. It's more controlled now for reasonableness. Money needs to get directly to the schools now. Problem is the schools are not making any money on these events and likely  actually lose money due to travel costs.
Title: Re: 2027 Maui
Post by: Jay Bee on October 14, 2025, 09:31:25 PM
Quote from: Nukem2 on October 14, 2025, 09:25:42 PMNIL really isn't that much of a thing anymore following the House settlement.


#FakeNews #Lies

Bro, what? People get so confused re: $$$ in college sports.
Title: Re: 2027 Maui
Post by: Uncle Rico on October 14, 2025, 10:16:26 PM
Quote from: Jay Bee on October 14, 2025, 09:31:25 PM#FakeNews #Lies

Bro, what? People get so confused re: $$$ in college sports.

You sure got that right.  Worried about the tax implications myself.
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