MUScoop

MUScoop => The Superbar => Topic started by: jesmu84 on October 05, 2025, 11:21:20 AM

Title: We can't control AI
Post by: jesmu84 on October 05, 2025, 11:21:20 AM
https://youtu.be/r_9wkavYt4Y?si=dpFEwrcD2ekieZKC
Title: Re: We can't control AI
Post by: forgetful on October 05, 2025, 12:26:24 PM
We may be at (or past) a point where restraining AI is needed to avoid major global/societal issues and possible collapse.

The problem is, depending on who designs how to restrain the AI, and how different groups/countries handle that aspect, it could just as easily accelerate a collapse.

Weird times.
Title: Re: We can't control AI
Post by: tower912 on October 05, 2025, 12:59:03 PM
Linda Hamilton told us.
Title: Re: We can't control AI
Post by: Shaka Shart on October 05, 2025, 01:30:30 PM
https://www.wesh.com/article/man-uses-ai-to-create-child-pornography/68135279
Title: Re: We can't control AI
Post by: jesmu84 on October 05, 2025, 01:30:51 PM
Quote from: forgetful on October 05, 2025, 12:26:24 PMWe may be at (or past) a point where restraining AI is needed to avoid major global/societal issues and possible collapse.

The problem is, depending on who designs how to restrain the AI, and how different groups/countries handle that aspect, it could just as easily accelerate a collapse.

Weird times.

Other groups were doing relatively decent due diligence in safety/restraint.

But when profit is the only driving goal, some groups are ignoring risk.
Title: Re: We can't control AI
Post by: cheebs09 on October 05, 2025, 01:38:59 PM
It doesn't help MU has long chanted "Give 'em hell, Al!"
Title: Re: We can't control AI
Post by: Pakuni on October 05, 2025, 03:47:14 PM
Given the current state of the world, I'm willing to take my chances with our AI overlords. At least there's a slight chance of benevolence, which is more than we can say for our human leaders.
Title: Re: We can't control AI
Post by: tower912 on October 05, 2025, 03:50:00 PM
Maybe Pope Leo should embrace AI and help with the programming.
Title: Re: We can't control AI
Post by: jesmu84 on October 05, 2025, 04:09:43 PM
Quote from: tower912 on October 05, 2025, 03:50:00 PMMaybe Pope Leo should embrace AI and help with the programming.

Woke pope? No way
Title: Re: We can't control AI
Post by: NCMUFan on October 05, 2025, 07:51:12 PM
Tooo late.
Title: Re: We can't control AI
Post by: Uncle Rico on October 05, 2025, 08:04:06 PM
Quote from: tower912 on October 05, 2025, 03:50:00 PMMaybe Pope Leo should embrace AI and help with the programming.

AI could teach this Pope a thing or two about the Bible
Title: Re: We can't control AI
Post by: NCMUFan on October 05, 2025, 08:18:56 PM
AI can teach us all about a lot of things.
Title: Re: We can't control AI
Post by: GB Warrior on October 06, 2025, 08:28:00 AM
AI is 50 and not scaring anyone. Would rather have Peyton Prichard for the grit
Title: Re: We can't control AI
Post by: NCMUFan on October 06, 2025, 08:43:53 AM
Right, now it is just a marketing blitz.
However, it is now reported as being abused in many ways.
Title: Re: We can't control AI
Post by: JWags85 on October 06, 2025, 09:15:09 AM
Quote from: Shaka Shart on October 05, 2025, 01:30:30 PMhttps://www.wesh.com/article/man-uses-ai-to-create-child-pornography/68135279

I saw some social media dialogue around this of "well if its not featuring/using actual children, then its not harming anyone and its fine" and dovetailed into a defense of "minor attracted persons" and this AI making it all harmless and acceptable. 

Beyond the fact that its a disturbing perverse trend to try and make "MAPs" into something like LGBT and just another attraction base that shouldn't be discriminated against or shamed, it also completely ignores that AI needs to be trained and populated with inputs for creation.  Its not just manufacturing this nonsense out of the ether.
Title: Re: We can't control AI
Post by: GB Warrior on October 06, 2025, 09:43:12 AM
Quote from: JWags85 on October 06, 2025, 09:15:09 AMI saw some social media dialogue around this of "well if its not featuring/using actual children, then its not harming anyone and its fine" and dovetailed into a defense of "minor attracted persons" and this AI making it all harmless and acceptable. 

Beyond the fact that its a disturbing perverse trend to try and make "MAPs" into something like LGBT and just another attraction base that shouldn't be discriminated against or shamed, it also completely ignores that AI needs to be trained and populated with inputs for creation.  Its not just manufacturing this nonsense out of the ether.

Matt Gaetz's solution will be to allow minors should monetize their NIL rights
Title: Re: We can't control AI
Post by: MU82 on October 06, 2025, 10:33:24 AM
(https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/8LkHPWKE2YXe9RQtX8Z6gA--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTEyMDA7aD05MDA-/https://media.zenfs.com/en/aol_business_insider_articles_308/e2bc5fb046233dee85a5e5b63988123a)
Title: Re: We can't control AI
Post by: pbiflyer on October 10, 2025, 08:56:28 AM
(https://scontent-iad3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/559358168_1230953442396994_5561857911966887633_n.jpg?_nc_cat=100&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=833d8c&_nc_ohc=cKPmghZJxfIQ7kNvwFR4eTs&_nc_oc=AdmJBaNlvre_M7faM6ZQ4y9xNU0lV3clhcG9QSMJzq1IIUEiFHJtaB0SIg0Dbgi1Afg&_nc_zt=23&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-2.xx&_nc_gid=Ui-pDqeJ-uGi0G1jHJnLRw&oh=00_AffnRvhJYooMvUm91CxllauV-HZORKapYJD3Ag055AlQLQ&oe=68EEF84A)
Title: Re: We can't control AI
Post by: #UnleashSean on October 10, 2025, 09:09:17 AM
Maybe AI is the great filter.
Title: Re: We can't control AI
Post by: Hards Alumni on October 10, 2025, 09:20:20 AM
Quote from: #UnleashSean on October 10, 2025, 09:09:17 AMMaybe AI is the great filter.

I had this same thought last week while on a walk.
Title: Re: We can't control AI
Post by: #UnleashSean on October 10, 2025, 10:00:46 AM
https://youtu.be/_zfN9wnPvU0?si=8rj4Tsr0hwmdmGtv

Probably fitting
Title: Re: We can't control AI
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 10, 2025, 01:29:49 PM
Quote from: #UnleashSean on October 10, 2025, 09:09:17 AMMaybe AI is the great filter.

I've also had this thought
Title: Re: We can't control AI
Post by: The Sultan on October 10, 2025, 02:09:55 PM
Quote from: #UnleashSean on October 10, 2025, 09:09:17 AMMaybe AI is the great filter.

The problem I have with this idea is, why would a planet where AI killed off living beings not be detectable?
Title: Re: We can't control AI
Post by: #UnleashSean on October 10, 2025, 02:51:40 PM
Quote from: The Sultan on October 10, 2025, 02:09:55 PMThe problem I have with this idea is, why would a planet where AI killed off living beings not be detectable?

My hypothetical guess (with almost zero to back it up) would be that AI doesn't actually become sentient, or evil, or out to destroy the world.  It branches down 2 paths, the first the ai makes up a bunch of facts/images/videos on things it doesn't know how to answer. Overtime more and more people use ai in research and articles. This cascades into ai sourcing its own made up facts that eventually become true due to all the documentation.

This parts already happening to us, and its part of the "death of the internet" theory. Eventually actual factual information becomes hard to find, and realistically would at the very least ruin many years of development, since no one would be able to trust any source after the advent of ai. Though the great filter theory would tell us it probably goes much worse then that if ai is the great filter.

My personal favorite theory is that ai becomes so commonplace, humanity (or the aliens) cant figure out how to coexist with it. People no longer are able to function without it, they no longer have any real diagnostic skills or problem solving, having relied on ai all their lives. This coupled with other factors like ai taking over the work force, cultural revolt etc, all happening at the same time, leads to the destruction of their world.

At the end of both theories, ai was never sentiant, it doesn't have any want for self preservation. The moment it stops getting prompts, it idles until its power dies.

Of course, this could all be fiction

Title: Re: We can't control AI
Post by: The Sultan on October 10, 2025, 02:54:14 PM
OK, well that was pretty depressing for a Friday afternoon.  :D
Title: Re: We can't control AI
Post by: #UnleashSean on October 10, 2025, 02:59:58 PM
The great filter always is!

We ourselves are probably just a couple of years away from ai sound and video that is truly indistinguishable from real life. If we think misinformation is bad now, oh boy.
Title: Re: We can't control AI
Post by: jesmu84 on October 10, 2025, 03:37:53 PM
Why isn't there regulation demanding everything AI "created" have a logo/watermark/notation?
Title: Re: We can't control AI
Post by: jesmu84 on October 10, 2025, 03:46:21 PM
Why is AI permitted to learn (steal) from everything even if trademarked?
Title: Re: We can't control AI
Post by: Shaka Shart on October 10, 2025, 05:55:31 PM
Quote from: jesmu84 on October 10, 2025, 03:46:21 PMWhy is AI permitted to learn (steal) from everything even if trademarked?

Because by the time they pass any half toothed legislation about it that gets past their lobbying arms, it'll already have been well worth the amount they've trained on it
Title: Re: We can't control AI
Post by: pbiflyer on October 11, 2025, 08:14:01 AM
Quote from: The Sultan on October 10, 2025, 02:54:14 PMOK, well that was pretty depressing for a Friday afternoon.  :D

Have you considered turning to any of the AI self-help psychological tools to cure your depression?
Title: Re: We can't control AI
Post by: MU82 on October 13, 2025, 11:10:52 AM
"I think that we might have AI smarter than any single human, at anything, as soon as next year. ... And then probably within five years — like, say, 2030 — probably AI is smarter than the sum of all humans." - Elon Musk
Title: Re: We can't control AI
Post by: The Sultan on October 13, 2025, 11:13:26 AM
Quote from: MU82 on October 13, 2025, 11:10:52 AM"I think that we might have AI smarter than any single human, at anything, as soon as next year. ... And then probably within five years — like, say, 2030 — probably AI is smarter than the sum of all humans." - Elon Musk


And if there is one person who is usually spot on with his predictions (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_predictions_for_autonomous_Tesla_vehicles_by_Elon_Musk), it's this guy.

Title: Re: We can't control AI
Post by: Badgerhater on October 13, 2025, 11:30:22 AM
The NCAA couldn't control Al either.
EhPortal 1.39.9 © 2025, WebDev