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Title: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on September 29, 2025, 05:35:15 PM
Brad Davison is back in Madison, joining Greg Gard's staff.  He replaces Kirk Penney who was the Badgers lead offensive coach.
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: Jay Bee on September 29, 2025, 05:42:51 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 29, 2025, 05:35:15 PMBrad Davison is back in Madison, joining Greg Gard's staff.  He replaces Kirk Penney who was the Badgers lead offensive coach.

Major loss for professional basketball.
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: MU82 on September 29, 2025, 05:53:15 PM
The bio calling Davison the Lead Assistant in Charge of Nut-Punching was a great exercise in honesty.
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on September 29, 2025, 06:05:46 PM
I received an email from Be The Difference. They said instead of sending money for the NIL fund, they are asking donors to send athletic cups for the Wisconsin game.
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: Scoop Snoop on September 29, 2025, 07:21:31 PM
Quote from: MU82 on September 29, 2025, 05:53:15 PMThe bio calling Davison the Lead Assistant in Charge of Nut-Punching and Flopping was a great exercise in honesty.

FIFY

Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on September 29, 2025, 07:48:33 PM
Quote from: brewcity77 on September 29, 2025, 06:05:46 PMI received an email from Be The Difference. They said instead of sending money for the NIL fund, they are asking donors to send athletic cups for the Wisconsin game.

It's the least our athletic supporters can do.
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: Big Papi on September 29, 2025, 08:34:16 PM
Its a big kick in the nuts, I mean loss for the Badgers.  Penney was a big reason why the rodents were able to attract good offensive talent.
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: JWags85 on September 30, 2025, 12:20:18 PM
Replacing the very experienced guy in charge of the offense, when for the first time in a century the Badgers had a high scoring potent offense, with a brand new assistant who was a thoroughly average offensive player is very on brand for Greg Gard.
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: The Sultan on September 30, 2025, 12:41:07 PM
Quote from: JWags85 on September 30, 2025, 12:20:18 PMReplacing the very experienced guy in charge of the offense, when for the first time in a century the Badgers had a high scoring potent offense, with a brand new assistant who was a thoroughly average offensive player is very on brand for Greg Gard.


It really is bizarre. Did Penney get pushed out? For Brad Davison?
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: Scoop Snoop on September 30, 2025, 01:39:19 PM
Quote from: JWags85 on September 30, 2025, 12:20:18 PMReplacing the very experienced guy in charge of the offense, when for the first time in a century the Badgers had a high scoring potent offense, with a brand new assistant who was a thoroughly average offensive player is very on brand for Greg Gard.

Yep. Gard hired a guy who is sure to be a flop.
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on September 30, 2025, 02:08:48 PM
Quote from: The Sultan on September 30, 2025, 12:41:07 PMIt really is bizarre. Did Penney get pushed out? For Brad Davison?

Penney's family was still in New Zealand
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: The Sultan on September 30, 2025, 02:11:42 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 30, 2025, 02:08:48 PMPenney's family was still in New Zealand

OK, so he was leaving anyway and they just made the announcement simultaneously.
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: jfp61 on September 30, 2025, 02:17:53 PM
All this is true. Penney was decent at the job. And buzzcut brad is just a former player
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: muwarrior69 on September 30, 2025, 06:35:14 PM
Syracuse all-time scorer dead at 53.

https://nypost.com/2025/09/30/sports/lawrence-moten-syracuse-basketball-legend-dead-at-53/
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: tower912 on September 30, 2025, 06:40:44 PM
Syracuse hung the jersey of their all-time scorer in the rafters.
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: jfp61 on September 30, 2025, 08:51:59 PM
Morten had 3 NCAA tournment appearences, 4 NCAA tournment wins, and a Big East tournement win. His jersey was retired in 2018. 23 years after playing.
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: MU82 on September 30, 2025, 09:29:24 PM
When I think of all the great players Syracuse has had over the years, I wouldn't have guessed Moten was their all-time scoring leader.
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on October 01, 2025, 08:48:50 AM
Before Markus Howard came along, Lawrence Moten was also the all-time leading scorer in Big East play. He came to Marquette in February 2020 to present Howard with a ball celebrating his record being broken. Real class act.

https://marquettewire.org/4027963/sports/howard-passes-lawrence-moten-as-big-east-all-time-scoring-leader/
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: The Sultan on October 01, 2025, 08:52:27 AM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 30, 2025, 02:08:48 PMPenney's family was still in New Zealand

Partially. Their home is on the market in the Cambridge area.
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: The Sultan on October 01, 2025, 08:52:58 AM
Quote from: jfp61 on September 30, 2025, 08:51:59 PMMorten had 3 NCAA tournment appearences, 4 NCAA tournment wins, and a Big East tournement win. His jersey was retired in 2018. 23 years after playing.


Are we really doing this again?
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: JWags85 on October 01, 2025, 11:13:10 AM
Quote from: The Sultan on October 01, 2025, 08:52:27 AMPartially. Their home is on the market in the Cambridge area.

I found it kind of curious when he took the job in the first place.  Getting into coaching made a ton of sense, but other than his brief foray with Tony Bennett at UVA, he'd been out of the US game for 20 years and is more or less a lesser legend in the NBL world.  Coaching there made a lot of sense and probably a quicker path to the big chair.  I know his wife is from Wisconsin but its not like they had any roots here beyond that.
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: jfp61 on October 01, 2025, 11:33:45 AM
Quote from: The Sultan on October 01, 2025, 08:52:58 AMAre we really doing this again?
I didn't start it. just a big syracuse fan from 1991-1995
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: Billy Hoyle on October 01, 2025, 06:50:34 PM
Quote from: MU82 on September 30, 2025, 09:29:24 PMWhen I think of all the great players Syracuse has had over the years, I wouldn't have guessed Moten was their all-time scoring leader.

Moton, like Malik Sealy, seemed to be in playing in college for more than four years.
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: Hards Alumni on October 02, 2025, 08:55:44 AM
Quote from: JWags85 on October 01, 2025, 11:13:10 AMI found it kind of curious when he took the job in the first place.  Getting into coaching made a ton of sense, but other than his brief foray with Tony Bennett at UVA, he'd been out of the US game for 20 years and is more or less a lesser legend in the NBL world.  Coaching there made a lot of sense and probably a quicker path to the big chair.  I know his wife is from Wisconsin but its not like they had any roots here beyond that.

He went to school at UW, and his wife is from here... I'm not sure what more you'd need for roots.
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: MuMark on October 02, 2025, 11:18:31 AM
https://x.com/jeffborzello/status/1973783803517911306?s=61&t=6XPB8f4sAKmJIzxgMcsCjw
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on October 02, 2025, 11:28:46 AM
Quote from: MuMark on October 02, 2025, 11:18:31 AMhttps://x.com/jeffborzello/status/1973783803517911306?s=61&t=6XPB8f4sAKmJIzxgMcsCjw

Well-deserved
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: Billy Hoyle on October 02, 2025, 01:07:43 PM
we should probably have a separate Big East discussion thread, but since we don't, big get for UConn and the conference:

https://www.espn.com/recruiting/basketball/story/_/id/46465574/junior-county-commits-uconn-part-2026-recruiting-class

Fast-rising four-star senior guard Junior County told ESPN that he has committed to UConn.

County, one of the top-five shooting guards in the 2026 class, chose the Huskies over a final list that also included Arizona, Indiana, Maryland and Purdue.
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: MU82 on October 02, 2025, 05:53:01 PM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on October 02, 2025, 01:07:43 PMwe should probably have a separate Big East discussion thread, but since we don't, big get for UConn and the conference:

https://www.espn.com/recruiting/basketball/story/_/id/46465574/junior-county-commits-uconn-part-2026-recruiting-class

Fast-rising four-star senior guard Junior County told ESPN that he has committed to UConn.

County, one of the top-five shooting guards in the 2026 class, chose the Huskies over a final list that also included Arizona, Indiana, Maryland and Purdue.


I don't know much about how stars are determined, but the 4th-best shooting guard in the entire class isn't a 5-star recruit?
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: MuMark on October 02, 2025, 06:24:43 PM
Quote from: MU82 on October 02, 2025, 05:53:01 PMI don't know much about how stars are determined, but the 4th-best shooting guard in the entire class isn't a 5-star recruit?

Just depends on the class.....there were only 15 total 5 stars according to 247 in 2025 and as of now the same number in 2026.
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: #UnleashSean on October 02, 2025, 06:35:43 PM
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on September 30, 2025, 01:39:19 PMYep. Gard hired a guy who is sure to be a flop.

This is the best one.
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: tower912 on October 02, 2025, 06:36:50 PM
Dude was a baller.
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: Jay Bee on October 03, 2025, 09:40:34 AM
Quote from: MU82 on October 02, 2025, 05:53:01 PMI don't know much about how stars are determined, but the 4th-best shooting guard in the entire class isn't a 5-star recruit?

It's largely nonsense. Each 'service' is difference. For ESPN, I believe they still go with guys who are 90+ graded are 5 stars. So, one year could be a lot.. theoretically another year there could be zero. I guess the point is - and it makes sense - the stars relate to the individual, not their ranking in their class.

County grades out at 86, good for 43rd in ESPN's 2026 rankings, but well below the 90 needed for their 5-star status. Of the 19 5-stars, I think only 2 are listed as SG.. lots of SF designations, who might actually be SGs to others.

#SmokeNmirrors
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on October 03, 2025, 03:13:20 PM
Quote from: MU82 on October 02, 2025, 05:53:01 PMI don't know much about how stars are determined, but the 4th-best shooting guard in the entire class isn't a 5-star recruit?

He lost a star for being named Junior County.   If he wants that 5th star, he needs to change his name to Senior Country.
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on October 03, 2025, 04:32:02 PM
Quote from: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on October 03, 2025, 03:13:20 PMHe lost a star for being named Junior County   If he wants that 5th star, he needs to change his name to Senior Country.

Either is probably better than his given first name.  :-X
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: Hards Alumni on October 03, 2025, 05:19:40 PM
Quote from: brewcity77 on October 03, 2025, 04:32:02 PMEither is probably better than his given first name.  :-X

(https://c.tenor.com/wN2irO31XqwAAAAC/tenor.gif)
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: MU82 on October 16, 2025, 10:17:43 AM
From Yahoo Sports:

There have always been imbalances in men's college basketball — from the power conference and high-major programs down to the mid- and low-major teams. But the gap between the "haves" and "have nots" widened significantly during the NIL/transfer portal era, which saw the best talent matriculate to the top in unprecedented fashion.

The growing divide: "The disparity between the high majors and the rest of college basketball has never felt bigger," writes analytics expert Evan Miyakawa alongside his preseason rankings, noting that the conference strength drop off from the fifth-best league (Big East) to the sixth-best league (A-10) is larger than the gap between sixth and 17th (Sun Belt).

What they're saying: "This was always going to be a cost of the NIL/portal era (with other benefits)," writes journalist Eamonn Brennan, "but the acceleration you're seeing in 2025-26 preseason ranks is starting to get a little freaky."
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: CountryRoads on October 16, 2025, 11:37:03 AM
I've switched my stance on the NIL/portal era and now think it has largely been a huge positive for the game. Players at the mid majors are now able to move up and make life changing money on the big stage. As a result, the playing field has been leveled somewhat in the high major conferences and I think it's much more competitive now where a few dozen teams have the talent to make a final four in a given year. No longer do the same 6 schools have their pick of the litter leaving everyone else with the remaining scraps. Lot of good ball players out there that are more accessible to get on your roster in less than a year now.
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: MU82 on October 16, 2025, 12:01:35 PM
Quote from: CountryRoads on October 16, 2025, 11:37:03 AMI've switched my stance on the NIL/portal era and now think it has largely been a huge positive for the game. Players at the mid majors are now able to move up and make life changing money on the big stage. As a result, the playing field has been leveled somewhat in the high major conferences and I think it's much more competitive now where a few dozen teams have the talent to make a final four in a given year. No longer do the same 6 schools have their pick of the litter leaving everyone else with the remaining scraps. Lot of good ball players out there that are more accessible to get on your roster in less than a year now.

All good points.

It also allows players who aren't quite P5 material to easily move down a level without having to sit out a year, while also still getting a little NIL.

I support scenarios that give athletes more freedom of movement and the opportunity to legally earn money - in other words, the same things coaches have always enjoyed.
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: WhiteTrash on October 16, 2025, 12:10:09 PM
Quote from: MU82 on October 16, 2025, 10:17:43 AMFrom Yahoo Sports:

There have always been imbalances in men's college basketball — from the power conference and high-major programs down to the mid- and low-major teams. But the gap between the "haves" and "have nots" widened significantly during the NIL/transfer portal era, which saw the best talent matriculate to the top in unprecedented fashion.

The growing divide: "The disparity between the high majors and the rest of college basketball has never felt bigger," writes analytics expert Evan Miyakawa alongside his preseason rankings, noting that the conference strength drop off from the fifth-best league (Big East) to the sixth-best league (A-10) is larger than the gap between sixth and 17th (Sun Belt).

What they're saying: "This was always going to be a cost of the NIL/portal era (with other benefits)," writes journalist Eamonn Brennan, "but the acceleration you're seeing in 2025-26 preseason ranks is starting to get a little freaky."
I'm a little freaked out myself, that the BE is behind the ACC in rankings? The BE was #4 last year in NET. 
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on October 16, 2025, 12:15:11 PM
Quote from: WhiteTrash on October 16, 2025, 12:10:09 PMI'm a little freaked out myself, that the BE is behind the ACC in rankings? The BE was #4 last year in NET. 

ACC is better this year than it has been in recent years.  All of them are top-100 KenPom to begin the season whereas last year, you had 8 teams sub-100, with BC 181 and Miami 193.  KenPom still has the BE ahead of the ACC.

I'd wager that a few ACC schools crash and burn and drag down the league but I don't think the league is as bad as it has been.  Having a good Louisville team helps them quite a bit.
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: Billy Hoyle on October 16, 2025, 12:18:26 PM
Quote from: MU82 on October 16, 2025, 12:01:35 PMAll good points.

It also allows players who aren't quite P5 material to easily move down a level without having to sit out a year, while also still getting a little NIL.

I support scenarios that give athletes more freedom of movement and the opportunity to legally earn money - in other words, the same things coaches have always enjoyed.

I agree with the benefits for student-athletes, but I see two negatives:

1 - it's easier to run off student-athletes. If a coach misses on an evaluation, it shouldn't be the student-athlete who is punished by being broomed out the door even if they want to stay at the school. Finding a new home isn't as easy as you'd think; in 2023, 55% of kids who entered the portal don't end up at another school.

2 - it hurts the mid-majors. The roster turnover coaches at those programs deal with when high majors use mid-majors as a farm system harms their ability to build continuity and establish a foundation for success. Coach friends at low and mid-major schools who are replacing their entire rosters every year, and not all of those kids are moving up and being successful at a higher level.
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: MU82 on October 16, 2025, 01:25:38 PM
Quote from: WhiteTrash on October 16, 2025, 12:10:09 PMI'm a little freaked out myself, that the BE is behind the ACC in rankings? The BE was #4 last year in NET. 

The Big East is basically even with the ACC. I couldn't include an image of the chart, but here's the top 6:

SEC ... 15.7
Big 18 ... 15.1
Big 12 ... 13.9
ACC ... 11.2
Big East ... 11.0
A-10 ... 3.5

So we're talking a fraction between the BEast and the ACC ... and miles between the BEast and the Daytonites.
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: MU82 on October 16, 2025, 01:28:10 PM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on October 16, 2025, 12:18:26 PMI agree with the benefits for student-athletes, but I see two negatives:

1 - it's easier to run off student-athletes. If a coach misses on an evaluation, it shouldn't be the student-athlete who is punished by being broomed out the door even if they want to stay at the school. Finding a new home isn't as easy as you'd think; in 2023, 55% of kids who entered the portal don't end up at another school.

2 - it hurts the mid-majors. The roster turnover coaches at those programs deal with when high majors use mid-majors as a farm system harms their ability to build continuity and establish a foundation for success. Coach friends at low and mid-major schools who are replacing their entire rosters every year, and not all of those kids are moving up and being successful at a higher level.

All that is reasonable.

But the old rules didn't stop Buzz - and lots of other coaches - from running off numerous kids. And although it has become more prevalent, mid-majors lost plenty of athletes to majors over the years; Creighton, for example, practically operated a farm system for a while there. 
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: 21Jumpstreet on October 16, 2025, 01:29:50 PM
Quote from: muwarrior69 on September 30, 2025, 06:35:14 PMSyracuse all-time scorer dead at 53.

https://nypost.com/2025/09/30/sports/lawrence-moten-syracuse-basketball-legend-dead-at-53/

Lawrence "Poetry In" Moten
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: WhiteTrash on October 16, 2025, 02:11:54 PM
Quote from: MU82 on October 16, 2025, 01:28:10 PMAll that is reasonable.

But the old rules didn't stop Buzz - and lots of other coaches - from running off numerous kids. And although it has become more prevalent, mid-majors lost plenty of athletes to majors over the years; Creighton, for example, practically operated a farm system for a while there. 
Agreed. I don't see how NIL and transfer rules made it easier to run off players. If anything it has made the situation better by not having to sit for a year.

I don't think there is a way to both give the players freedom of movement and guaranty spots for everyone. 
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: MuMark on October 16, 2025, 03:01:13 PM
https://x.com/johncanzanobft/status/1978901503860408375?s=61&t=6XPB8f4sAKmJIzxgMcsCjw
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: Hards Alumni on October 16, 2025, 03:18:00 PM
Quote from: MuMark on October 16, 2025, 03:01:13 PMhttps://x.com/johncanzanobft/status/1978901503860408375?s=61&t=6XPB8f4sAKmJIzxgMcsCjw

Wow.
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: tower912 on October 16, 2025, 03:26:58 PM
Thoughts and prayers to his family.
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: DoctorV on October 16, 2025, 10:09:13 PM
Finding a new home isn't as easy as you'd think; in 2023, 55% of kids who entered the portal don't end up at another school.

Where do they go?
Surprised the number is so high
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 16, 2025, 11:47:29 PM
Quote from: DoctorV on October 16, 2025, 10:09:13 PMFinding a new home isn't as easy as you'd think; in 2023, 55% of kids who entered the portal don't end up at another school.

Where do they go?
Surprised the number is so high

IIRC, that number is misleading. My recollection is that that is the number for every sport from men's basketball to women's bowling, at every level, includes walk ons, counts players who transfer to non-NCAA schools (like NAIA) as not finding a new school, and counts players who don't find a new school because they decided to graduate and move on instead of using their covid year, and even counted players who didn't find a school because they got drafted.

I saw another article recently that had the number at 31% of Division 1 players who entered the portal not ending up at an NCAA school.
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: muwarrior69 on October 22, 2025, 03:51:22 PM
Izzo upset.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/46680426/michigan-state-coach-tom-izzo-sounds-ncaa-louisville-signs-former-g-league-player
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: The Sultan on October 22, 2025, 03:56:53 PM
Tom has one or two "old man yells at cloud" moments every year. Probably best for him to move on...or coach D3 or something.
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: Nukem2 on October 22, 2025, 03:59:36 PM
Quote from: muwarrior69 on October 22, 2025, 03:51:22 PMIzzo upset.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/46680426/michigan-state-coach-tom-izzo-sounds-ncaa-louisville-signs-former-g-league-player
Far bigger issue is the sudden rise in foreign players being admitted using similar rationale to admitting the former Ignite players. At least there is a small finite number of those former Ignite players while the new foreign influx is ongoing.
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: Shooter McGavin on October 22, 2025, 04:05:38 PM
Could a three way player like J Lewis come back even if they have had NBA minutes?  Could NBA veterans on the down side of their careers who never got a degree do that?  Maybe a Wade or someone like him as he finishes up his degree?  Or is there a certain time frame and pro level reached that disqualifies them?
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on October 22, 2025, 04:06:10 PM
Quote from: muwarrior69 on October 22, 2025, 03:51:22 PMIzzo upset.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/46680426/michigan-state-coach-tom-izzo-sounds-ncaa-louisville-signs-former-g-league-player

I'd love to see how 66-year-old Magic Johnson fared playing in college today.
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: The Sultan on October 22, 2025, 04:15:22 PM
Quote from: Shooter McGavin on October 22, 2025, 04:05:38 PMCould a three way player like J Lewis come back even if they have had NBA minutes?  Could NBA veterans on the down side of their careers who never got a degree do that?  Maybe a Wade or someone like him as he finishes up his degree?  Or is there a certain time frame and pro level reached that disqualifies them?

No because all of the above examples include players who either used up their eligibility and/or willingly gave it up when they entered the NBA draft.

The issue here is that a player like London Johnson got $1 million when he joined the G-League ignite. Some incoming freshmen are literally getting that right off the bat. So why should Johnson not be able to play college ball?

I get why Izzo is upset by this, but logically there is no reason to keep Johnson from enrolling and playing.
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on October 22, 2025, 04:19:42 PM
Quote from: The Sultan on October 22, 2025, 04:15:22 PMNo because all of the above examples include players who either used up their eligibility and/or willingly gave it up when they entered the NBA draft.

The issue here is that a player like London Johnson got $1 million when he joined the G-League ignite. Some incoming freshmen are literally getting that right off the bat. So why should Johnson not be able to play college ball?

I get why Izzo is upset by this, but logically there is no reason to keep Johnson from enrolling and playing.

What about the tax issues?
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: Shooter McGavin on October 22, 2025, 04:36:52 PM
Quote from: The Sultan on October 22, 2025, 04:15:22 PMNo because all of the above examples include players who either used up their eligibility and/or willingly gave it up when they entered the NBA draft.

The issue here is that a player like London Johnson got $1 million when he joined the G-League ignite. Some incoming freshmen are literally getting that right off the bat. So why should Johnson not be able to play college ball?

I get why Izzo is upset by this, but logically there is no reason to keep Johnson from enrolling and playing.

So the act of declaring for the NBA disqualifies them because they willingly went pro. And G league and European pro league players are eligible because they unwillingly went pro?   

Also plenty of NBA players have 3 years of eligibility left. 

Declaring for the NBA draft must be the only rule now but that seems like it could change with a lawsuit, especially with players who miscalculated their value. 
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: The Sultan on October 23, 2025, 11:29:44 AM
Quote from: Shooter McGavin on October 22, 2025, 04:36:52 PMSo the act of declaring for the NBA disqualifies them because they willingly went pro. And G league and European pro league players are eligible because they unwillingly went pro?

You don't really "go pro" in European basketball in the same sense as here. You work with a club as a youth and are offered a contract at some point.

That being said, reading about this last night and they said the NCAA may only do this for the G-League Ignite since that was a team set up for taking kids right out of high school and is now going away.
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: Shooter McGavin on October 23, 2025, 12:20:09 PM
Quote from: The Sultan on October 23, 2025, 11:29:44 AMYou don't really "go pro" in European basketball in the same sense as here. You work with a club as a youth and are offered a contract at some point.

That being said, reading about this last night and they said the NCAA may only do this for the G-League Ignite since that was a team set up for taking kids right out of high school and is now going away.

That makes more sense to me.  Thanks Sultan.
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: The Sultan on October 23, 2025, 12:37:35 PM
Well, I have no idea if it is accurate or not. I am just trying to understand the NCAA's thinking, which may be a fool's errand I know. But really I am just tired of Tom Izzo complaining about how things have changed. Every industry changes Tom. You either adapt or move on. Or since you are 70, perhaps you should retire.
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on October 23, 2025, 12:41:27 PM
Quote from: The Sultan on October 23, 2025, 12:37:35 PMWell, I have no idea if it is accurate or not. I am just trying to understand the NCAA's thinking, which may be a fool's errand I know. But really I am just tired of Tom Izzo complaining about how things have changed. Every industry changes Tom. You either adapt or move on. Or since you are 70, perhaps you should retire.

For his sake, it looks like rape is ok nowadays
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: MU82 on October 23, 2025, 12:41:37 PM
Quote from: The Sultan on October 23, 2025, 12:37:35 PMWell, I have no idea if it is accurate or not. I am just trying to understand the NCAA's thinking, which may be a fool's errand I know. But really I am just tired of Tom Izzo complaining about how things have changed. Every industry changes Tom. You either adapt or move on. Or since you are 70, perhaps you should retire.

Yup. Izzo had absolutely no problem making $10M a year while his players were unpaid and had very limited freedom of movement. Thankfully, those times are over, at least as far as the players are concerned.
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: MuMark on October 23, 2025, 12:50:07 PM
I think Izzo's complaints are valid in this case.........and from what I understand many other coaches who are not 70 agree with him........I would bet money( ok maybe not the right joke today lol) that Shaka agrees with him.

Things change.......that doesn't mean every change is good or done for the right reason.

Lots of people have issues with the ncaa.......shouldn't be surprising that coaches have issues too.

I also don't think it's fair to say to any coach that voices displeasure with one policy change or another....." you should just retire"

Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: tower912 on October 23, 2025, 12:58:27 PM
Quote from: MuMark on October 23, 2025, 12:50:07 PMI think Izzo's complaints are valid in this case.........and from what I understand many other coaches who are not 70 agree with him........I would bet money( ok maybe not the right joke today lol) that Shaka agrees with him.

Things change.......that doesn't mean every change is good or done for the right reason.

Lots of people have issues with the ncaa.......shouldn't be surprising that coaches have issues too.

I also don't think it's fair to say to any coach that voices displeasure with one policy change or another....." you should just retire"



Izzo's words match Shaka's actions.  He recalled being asked for a million dollars for a transfer during g media day.  He hasn't taken a D1 transfer since.

Basically, what he is saying is....I understand the system.  It isn't how I am going to do it.
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: The Sultan on October 23, 2025, 01:01:05 PM
Quote from: MuMark on October 23, 2025, 12:50:07 PMI think Izzo's complaints are valid in this case.........and from what I understand many other coaches who are not 70 agree with him........I would bet money( ok maybe not the right joke today lol) that Shaka agrees with him.

Things change.......that doesn't mean every change is good or done for the right reason.

Lots of people have issues with the ncaa.......shouldn't be surprising that coaches have issues too.

I also don't think it's fair to say to any coach that voices displeasure with one policy change or another....." you should just retire"

I'm saying that because Tom repeated complains about changes. Not just in this case.

Regardless, I really don't care what the coaches like or dislike - including Shaka. This is the job you are paid a lot to do. Deal with it.

And I don't think it is valid in this case. Why should anyone care that players who made money are coming to the NCAA...only to be able to make money playing college ball? It logically doesn't make sense.
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: muwarrior69 on October 23, 2025, 01:42:39 PM
Quote from: The Sultan on October 23, 2025, 11:29:44 AMYou don't really "go pro" in European basketball in the same sense as here. You work with a club as a youth and are offered a contract at some point.

That being said, reading about this last night and they said the NCAA may only do this for the G-League Ignite since that was a team set up for taking kids right out of high school and is now going away.

Can kids go to the G-league right out of high school? If so, would kids coming right out of high school going to the G-league be ineligible to play college ball?
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: WhiteTrash on October 23, 2025, 01:44:11 PM
Quote from: The Sultan on October 23, 2025, 01:01:05 PMRegardless, I really don't care what the coaches like or dislike - including Shaka. This is the job you are paid a lot to do. Deal with it.


I think it is foolish to not allow the coaches a seat at the table for all this. I'm not saying their opinions should carry the day, but they could prove valuable in the process.

I include employees at all levels in decisions that they have knowledge of and could directly impact them and their work. JMHO
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on October 23, 2025, 01:45:59 PM
Quote from: WhiteTrash on October 23, 2025, 01:44:11 PMI think it is foolish to not allow the coaches a seat at the table for all this. I'm not saying their opinions should carry the day, but they could prove valuable in the process.

I include employees at all levels in decisions that they have knowledge of and could directly impact them and their work. JMHO


This is the NCAA you're talking about. 
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: The Sultan on October 23, 2025, 01:46:45 PM
Quote from: WhiteTrash on October 23, 2025, 01:44:11 PMI think it is foolish to not allow the coaches a seat at the table for all this. I'm not saying their opinions should carry the day, but they could prove valuable in the process.

I include employees at all levels in decisions that they have knowledge of and could directly impact them and their work. JMHO


The NCAA is making most of the decisions it does due to not wanting to lose lawsuits.
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: WhiteTrash on October 23, 2025, 01:58:36 PM
Quote from: The Sultan on October 23, 2025, 01:46:45 PMThe NCAA is making most of the decisions it does due to not wanting to lose lawsuits.
I can accept the reality that the NCAA does not want the coaches involved. I was simply taking an opposing position to your opinion that "I really don't care what the coaches like or dislike"
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: MU82 on October 23, 2025, 03:07:44 PM
Quote from: muwarrior69 on October 23, 2025, 01:42:39 PMCan kids go to the G-league right out of high school? If so, would kids coming right out of high school going to the G-league be ineligible to play college ball?

Can, and often do.

To date, they had been ineligible to play college ball, but that has changed with this case we're all discussing here.
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: MuMark on October 23, 2025, 06:34:39 PM
https://x.com/cbbonfox/status/1981482390330777816?s=61&t=6XPB8f4sAKmJIzxgMcsCjw
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on October 23, 2025, 07:18:02 PM
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/46661719/ranking-top-100-mens-college-basketball-players-2025-2026

No one from Marquette listed in the Top 100 to start the season.
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: wadesworld on October 23, 2025, 07:18:59 PM
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on October 23, 2025, 07:18:02 PMhttps://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/46661719/ranking-top-100-mens-college-basketball-players-2025-2026

No one from Marquette listed in the Top 100 to start the season.

I'm worried.
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: MU82 on October 23, 2025, 08:00:41 PM
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on October 23, 2025, 07:18:02 PMhttps://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/46661719/ranking-top-100-mens-college-basketball-players-2025-2026

No one from Marquette listed in the Top 100 to start the season.

If he stays healthy, Chase Ross will be better than lots of those guys.
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: WhiteTrash on October 23, 2025, 08:02:46 PM
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on October 23, 2025, 07:18:02 PMhttps://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/46661719/ranking-top-100-mens-college-basketball-players-2025-2026

No one from Marquette listed in the Top 100 to start the season.
This is why we are picked below St. Thomas in the preseason BE poll.
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on October 23, 2025, 08:07:25 PM
Quote from: MU82 on October 23, 2025, 08:00:41 PMIf he stays healthy, Chase Ross will be better than lots of those guys.

I think he already is.
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on October 24, 2025, 10:28:59 AM
Major respect from Norlander!

https://x.com/MattNorlander/status/1981742521265869197?t=5dS0ydQ9NP5QAW9FryOuuw&s=19
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: MU82 on October 24, 2025, 12:37:37 PM
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on October 24, 2025, 10:28:59 AMMajor respect from Norlander!

https://x.com/MattNorlander/status/1981742521265869197?t=5dS0ydQ9NP5QAW9FryOuuw&s=19

The media hates Marquette ... except for Norlander.
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on October 24, 2025, 09:12:52 PM
Oklahoma with an 84-83 win over UW-Madison at the Fiserv.

That Oklahoma team has some athletes. Really strong roster.
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: CountryRoads on October 24, 2025, 09:23:42 PM
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on October 24, 2025, 09:12:52 PMOklahoma with an 84-83 win over UW-Madison at the Fiserv.

That Oklahoma team has some athletes. Really strong roster.

Slipped by me that they got Nijel Pack. That will be a tough game in Chicago.
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: Jay Bee on October 24, 2025, 09:26:19 PM
Quote from: MU82 on October 24, 2025, 12:37:37 PMThe media hates Marquette ... except for Norlander.

Didn't she have MU as 9th when we won x2?
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on October 24, 2025, 09:29:43 PM
Quote from: CountryRoads on October 24, 2025, 09:23:42 PMSlipped by me that they got Nijel Pack. That will be a tough game in Chicago.

Thankfully our backcourt is our calling card but ya that could be a fun one and a tough one.
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on October 24, 2025, 09:31:23 PM
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on October 24, 2025, 09:12:52 PMOklahoma with an 84-83 win over UW-Madison at the Fiserv.

That Oklahoma team has some athletes. Really strong roster.

Kinda strange that Oklahoma is playing one game against Marquette and one game at Fiserv, but they're two different games.
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on October 24, 2025, 09:32:25 PM
Quote from: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on October 24, 2025, 09:31:23 PMKinda strange that Oklahoma is playing one game against Marquette and one game at Fiserv, but they're two different games.

And that it was UW's first of 2 games this season at Fiserv and neither against Marquette.
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on October 25, 2025, 08:30:55 AM
Quote from: Jay Bee on October 24, 2025, 09:26:19 PMDidn't she have MU as 9th when we won x2?

Hahahaha, calling Norlander she.  What a sick burn!
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: wadesworld on October 25, 2025, 12:43:48 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 25, 2025, 08:30:55 AMHahahaha, calling Norlander she.  What a sick burn!

There's an obvious explanation for JayBee's discomfort with sexual identities and preferences.
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: MuMark on October 25, 2025, 01:11:15 PM
Apparently the crowd at Fiserv was...........sparse.......
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on October 25, 2025, 01:44:45 PM
Quote from: MuMark on October 25, 2025, 01:11:15 PMApparently the crowd at Fiserv was...........sparse.......

Willie been telling everyone about the gap
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on October 26, 2025, 03:20:22 PM
Indiana beat Baylor by 2 in a scrimmage today.

https://x.com/JonRothstein/status/1982526137315041502?t=blSQcj3yDouD37gMHEgxlg&s=19
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: wadesworld on October 26, 2025, 05:51:00 PM
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on October 26, 2025, 03:20:22 PMIndiana beat Baylor by 2 in a scrimmage today.

https://x.com/JonRothstein/status/1982526137315041502?t=blSQcj3yDouD37gMHEgxlg&s=19

I'm worried.
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on October 26, 2025, 07:00:02 PM
https://x.com/DaytonMBB/status/1982583032185029052?t=-YZmU6bVuEGcVwZ5NOQYzA&s=19

Feel like this could put quite the twist on Brew's Dayton preview. Pretty massive news.
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: The Sultan on October 26, 2025, 07:04:23 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on October 26, 2025, 05:51:00 PMI'm worried.

They're no Radford.
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: Shaka Shart on October 26, 2025, 09:01:39 PM
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on October 26, 2025, 07:00:02 PMhttps://x.com/DaytonMBB/status/1982583032185029052?t=-YZmU6bVuEGcVwZ5NOQYzA&s=19

Feel like this could put quite the twist on Brew's Dayton preview. Pretty massive news.

Fieldhouse Flyer come on down!
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on October 26, 2025, 09:18:48 PM
OOF. I sure hope Shaka adds a chapter to his culture doc if he hasn't already. This will be a modern sports issue that will never go away.

https://x.com/CBB_Central/status/1982626254122897808?t=LZb2emwxYjr2Noka6Hwe5Q&s=19
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: wadesworld on October 26, 2025, 10:01:05 PM
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on October 26, 2025, 09:18:48 PMOOF. I sure hope Shaka adds a chapter to his culture doc if he hasn't already. This will be a modern sports issue that will never go away.

https://x.com/CBB_Central/status/1982626254122897808?t=LZb2emwxYjr2Noka6Hwe5Q&s=19

I'm worried about it.
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on October 27, 2025, 11:10:37 AM
This is so stupid. He played 3 years in the NBA G League.

https://x.com/TiptonEdits/status/1982833593048010876?t=Jd8FQWmP8eHYuH6aCetukg&s=19
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: Billy Hoyle on October 27, 2025, 11:26:11 AM
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on October 27, 2025, 11:10:37 AMThis is so stupid. He played 3 years in the NBA G League.

https://x.com/TiptonEdits/status/1982833593048010876?t=Jd8FQWmP8eHYuH6aCetukg&s=19

he will probably make at least 10x in NIL than he would in the G League.
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: JWags85 on October 27, 2025, 12:33:25 PM
Quote from: CountryRoads on October 24, 2025, 09:23:42 PMSlipped by me that they got Nijel Pack. That will be a tough game in Chicago.

How the hell does he still have eligibility left.
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: WhiteTrash on October 27, 2025, 02:23:06 PM
I think the migrations from amateur to pro college sports has to allow for the movement of players from different leagues. I'm not an attorney, but access to work places to earn a living should not be restricted, least it should be discriminatory.

A compelling and successful argument was made that college sports was in all respects a high revenue sports enterprise that should function like all pro sports and compensate players justly, but also not unjustly restrict access to participate.
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 27, 2025, 02:53:52 PM
Quote from: JWags85 on October 27, 2025, 12:33:25 PMHow the hell does he still have eligibility left.

Four normal years
COVID year was cut short by injury
Medical redshirt gets him a 6th year
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on October 27, 2025, 03:23:36 PM
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 27, 2025, 02:53:52 PMFour normal years
COVID year was cut short by injury
Medical redshirt gets him a 6th year
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: Shooter McGavin on October 27, 2025, 03:42:26 PM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on October 27, 2025, 11:26:11 AMhe will probably make at least 10x in NIL than he would in the G League.

Does he get four years of eligibility? 
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: Shooter McGavin on October 27, 2025, 03:43:54 PM
Can pro players from any sport (tennis, gymnastics, baseball, football) go back to college and play their respective sports?
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: The Sultan on October 27, 2025, 03:56:31 PM
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on October 27, 2025, 11:10:37 AMThis is so stupid. He played 3 years in the NBA G League.

https://x.com/TiptonEdits/status/1982833593048010876?t=Jd8FQWmP8eHYuH6aCetukg&s=19


What would be more stupid was insisting that players are amateurs coming into the NCAA when they can now make money as a NCAA student-athlete.
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: Billy Hoyle on October 27, 2025, 04:15:32 PM
Quote from: Shooter McGavin on October 27, 2025, 03:43:54 PMCan pro players from any sport (tennis, gymnastics, baseball, football) go back to college and play their respective sports?
Quote from: Shooter McGavin on October 27, 2025, 03:42:26 PMDoes he get four years of eligibility? 

1 to 2 years.
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: Billy Hoyle on October 27, 2025, 09:35:09 PM
Tyon Grant-Foster gets a sixth year of eligibility, successful arguing hes disabled and his future will be destroyed if he doesn't play for Gonzaga. How fortunate the ruling was from a GU grad

His future will fall apart if he doesn't play," Abrams argued


Judge rules Gonzaga transfer Tyon Grant-Foster can play this season | News | kxly.com https://share.google/n7M7WY0yuzeanLm6i
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: Its DJOver on October 28, 2025, 04:15:08 PM
https://x.com/JonRothstein/status/1983270383706071533?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Gambling, or just didn't have the grades for Harvard of the Midwest?
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: WhiteTrash on October 28, 2025, 04:28:58 PM
Quote from: Its DJOver on October 28, 2025, 04:15:08 PMhttps://x.com/JonRothstein/status/1983270383706071533?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Gambling, or just didn't have the grades for Harvard of the Midwest?
Since he was accepted to Madison, this is most likely a result of CERN requesting his assistance in antimatter research.
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: tower912 on October 28, 2025, 04:39:41 PM
Mortensen and Amoroso.  Two of Crean's finest.  And showing that, once again, MU is cutting edge.
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on October 29, 2025, 05:49:09 AM
Quote from: Its DJOver on October 28, 2025, 04:15:08 PMhttps://x.com/JonRothstein/status/1983270383706071533?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Gambling, or just didn't have the grades for Harvard of the Midwest?

Is there one is supposed to say "Gard gets it done."?
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on October 29, 2025, 07:10:12 AM
Quote from: Its DJOver on October 28, 2025, 04:15:08 PMhttps://x.com/JonRothstein/status/1983270383706071533?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Gambling, or just didn't have the grades for Harvard of the Midwest?

After the Dayton guy, I'd bet on it.
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: muwarrior69 on October 29, 2025, 08:35:20 AM
Quote from: CountryRoads on October 24, 2025, 09:23:42 PMSlipped by me that they got Nijel Pack. That will be a tough game in Chicago.

...but we have Nijel James!
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: JWags85 on October 29, 2025, 09:48:15 AM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on October 27, 2025, 09:35:09 PMTyon Grant-Foster gets a sixth year of eligibility, successful arguing hes disabled and his future will be destroyed if he doesn't play for Gonzaga. How fortunate the ruling was from a GU grad

His future will fall apart if he doesn't play," Abrams argued


Judge rules Gonzaga transfer Tyon Grant-Foster can play this season | News | kxly.com https://share.google/n7M7WY0yuzeanLm6i

I meant to post this the other day and forgot.  He started college the same class as Zion Williamson, and is actually 6 months older than Zion...who just started his 6th NBA season  :o
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: 🏀 on October 29, 2025, 09:49:26 AM
Quote from: brewcity77 on October 29, 2025, 07:10:12 AMAfter the Dayton guy, I'd bet on it.

ABD
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: Billy Hoyle on October 29, 2025, 09:57:34 AM
Quote from: brewcity77 on October 29, 2025, 07:10:12 AMAfter the Dayton guy, I'd bet on it.

Maybe. However, Gray wasn't on the Temple team that was under investigation for gambling; he was playing at Fordham that season.

Just speculation on my part, but it could be a Title IX issue that wasn't disclosed at the time he left Temple. Schools have pushed to require that information to be disclosed or even put on a kid's transcript so they don't get surprised.
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: JWags85 on October 29, 2025, 02:48:09 PM
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 27, 2025, 02:53:52 PMFour normal years
COVID year was cut short by injury
Medical redshirt gets him a 6th year

Yea, I did the math, but that was just my instinctive reaction when I thought of him getting that early big publicized NIL deal 3 years ago and testing the NBA draft the year after if I recall.
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: Billy Hoyle on October 31, 2025, 08:16:51 AM
if there was ever beer that will be the ultimate let down, this is it:

https://depaulbluedemons.com/news/2025/10/30/athletics-depaul-athletics-releases-co-branded-can-with-revolution-brewing
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: Jay Bee on October 31, 2025, 08:33:41 AM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on October 31, 2025, 08:16:51 AMif there was ever beer that will be the ultimate let down, this is it:

https://depaulbluedemons.com/news/2025/10/30/athletics-depaul-athletics-releases-co-branded-can-with-revolution-brewing

DePaul recommending fans drink at least 8 before viewing a game in order to make it enjoyable.
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: Billy Hoyle on October 31, 2025, 09:01:17 AM
Quote from: Jay Bee on October 31, 2025, 08:33:41 AMDePaul recommending fans drink at least 8 before viewing a game in order to make it enjoyable.

"Cold Time" is a perfect name to describe DePaul's shooting ability.
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: MU82 on October 31, 2025, 11:00:34 AM
Next Up:

Twenty Loss Premium Pilsner!
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: tower912 on October 31, 2025, 11:56:52 AM
DePaul BLUE! ribbon.
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: Scoop Snoop on October 31, 2025, 12:11:03 PM
Quote from: tower912 on October 31, 2025, 11:56:52 AMDePaul BLUE! ribbon.

You get an "atta boy!" for this.
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: MU82 on October 31, 2025, 12:40:12 PM
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on October 31, 2025, 12:11:03 PMYou get an "atta boy!" for this.

Not enough BLUEs.
Title: Re: 2025-26 Non-Marquette College Basketball Discussion Thread
Post by: MuMark on November 01, 2025, 05:10:32 PM
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