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Title: Latest NIL discussion for BC Hoopster
Post by: tower912 on September 23, 2025, 08:18:03 PM
MU has landed players during the NIL era.  MU has retained players in the NIL era.  MU has paid players during the NIL era.  I have little doubt that MU, under Shaka, will continue to get quality recruits.

What you haven't seen is MU engage in a bidding war.  What you haven't seen is MU engage in negotiations to make one incoming freshman get a better deal than another.  You will not see MU dropping a $1.5 million bag on a recruit.

The NIL world is evolving.  It is different this season than last.  Schools and conferences are working to adapt to the new rules and will continue to do so.

Pearl played the game extremely well last season under the old rules, getting an extremely old and experienced team.  Those rules have changed, and the pool of players has changed.   

Shaka has remained rock solid.  The recruits and their families appreciate his commitment and his eschewing the portal.   With the constantly evolving rules, it may turn out that he is far ahead of the curve.

Title: Re: Latest NIL discussion for BC Hoopster
Post by: tower912 on September 23, 2025, 08:32:32 PM
There: a place you point at and many other things.
They're:  they are
Their: belonging to them.
Title: Re: Latest NIL discussion for BC Hoopster
Post by: Jay Bee on September 23, 2025, 09:12:57 PM
Quote from: tower912 on September 23, 2025, 08:32:32 PMThere: a place you point at and many other things.
They're:  they are
Their: belonging to them.

It didn't work for BC in third grade or in any of the last several decades. Good try, teach, but some students are just flat out dumb.
Title: Re: Latest NIL discussion for BC Hoopster
Post by: BCHoopster on September 23, 2025, 09:36:19 PM
I might be dumb but hope you idiots we're as successful in your life as I am!
Title: Re: Latest NIL discussion for BC Hoopster
Post by: wadesworld on September 23, 2025, 09:39:20 PM
Quote from: BCHoopster on September 23, 2025, 09:36:19 PMI might be dumb but hope you idiots we're as successful in your life as I am!

I just hope Shaka has the cash requires to land you're grandson.
Title: Re: Latest NIL discussion for BC Hoopster
Post by: BCHoopster on September 23, 2025, 09:45:00 PM
I hope he is good enough to start in high school, then worry about college 4 or 5 years from now.  All about height!  Right now he is very good, had a great summer.
Title: Re: Latest NIL discussion for BC Hoopster
Post by: #UnleashNigel on September 23, 2025, 11:37:16 PM
I really hope this formula works.
Title: Re: Latest NIL discussion for BC Hoopster
Post by: MU82 on September 24, 2025, 01:00:16 AM
It's good to see that Eeyore #1 is still around.
Title: Re: Latest NIL discussion for BC Hoopster
Post by: avid1010 on September 24, 2025, 04:46:04 AM
Quote from: BCHoopster on September 23, 2025, 09:36:19 PMI might be dumb but hope you idiots we're as successful in your life as I am!
If people have to tell you how good they are...
Title: Re: Latest NIL discussion for BC Hoopster
Post by: tower912 on September 24, 2025, 05:17:56 AM
Quote from: #UnleashSean on September 23, 2025, 11:37:16 PMI really hope this formula works.
We all do. 
Title: Re: Latest NIL discussion for BC Hoopster
Post by: tower912 on September 24, 2025, 05:37:50 AM
Quote from: BCHoopster on September 23, 2025, 09:36:19 PMI might be dumb but hope you idiots we're as successful in your life as I am!

That is a very kind sentiment.  I think most of us share it.   Why are you so concerned about the condition of MU basketball?   What troubles you?  Recruiting?  Culture?  Coaching?  Finances?
Title: Re: Latest NIL discussion for BC Hoopster
Post by: We R Final Four on September 24, 2025, 07:45:51 AM
Quote from: BCHoopster on September 23, 2025, 09:36:19 PMI might be dumb but hope you idiots we're as successful in your life as I am!
Oh the irony.
*were, not we are.
Title: Re: Latest NIL discussion for BC Hoopster
Post by: Pepe Sylvia on September 24, 2025, 12:48:48 PM
Quote from: We R Final Four on September 24, 2025, 07:45:51 AMOh the irony.
*were, not we are.

I'm willing to grant that he may have done that one on purpose for the funnies. Or he's using a phone. My phone seems to think i want to type he'll at about 200x the rate i actually want to. I want to say hell, phone.
Title: Re: Latest NIL discussion for BC Hoopster
Post by: DFW HOYA on September 24, 2025, 01:55:26 PM
It's going to get more difficult, not less, to sell NIL at teams which are not performing in the Big East.
Title: Re: Latest NIL discussion for BC Hoopster
Post by: Uncle Rico on September 24, 2025, 02:00:32 PM
Quote from: DFW HOYA on September 24, 2025, 01:55:26 PMIt's going to get more difficult, not less, to sell NIL at places like Georgetown and Seton Hall.

Why
Title: Re: Latest NIL discussion for BC Hoopster
Post by: swoopem on September 24, 2025, 02:11:31 PM
Quote from: DFW HOYA on September 24, 2025, 01:55:26 PMIt's going to get more difficult, not less, to sell NIL at places like Georgetown and Seton Hall.

I get Seton Hall is in trouble (probably big time trouble) but what G'town? You guys are supposed to have deep pockets
Title: Re: Latest NIL discussion for BC Hoopster
Post by: Jay Bee on September 24, 2025, 02:14:10 PM
Crack rock taste testing at a Hoyas game might draw
Title: Re: Latest NIL discussion for BC Hoopster
Post by: MU82 on September 24, 2025, 02:38:46 PM
Now that D.C. is the safest, most crime-free city in the history of America, one would think Georgetown hoops would be an easy draw for big-time NIL $$$.
Title: Re: Latest NIL discussion for BC Hoopster
Post by: Jay Bee on September 24, 2025, 02:43:07 PM
Quote from: MU82 on September 24, 2025, 02:38:46 PMNow that D.C. is the safest, most crime-free city in the history of America, one would think Georgetown hoops would be an easy draw for big-time NIL $$$.

p o l i t i c s

She can't stop.
Title: Re: Latest NIL discussion for BC Hoopster
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on September 24, 2025, 03:22:02 PM
Quote from: Jay Bee on September 24, 2025, 02:43:07 PMp o l i t i c s

She can't stop.

Being an assh0le. Some people can't stop.
Title: Re: Latest NIL discussion for BC Hoopster
Post by: MU82 on September 24, 2025, 03:27:47 PM
Quote from: Jay Bee on September 24, 2025, 02:14:10 PMCrack rock taste testing at a Hoyas game might draw

p o l i t i c s

It can't stop.
Title: Re: Latest NIL discussion for BC Hoopster
Post by: brewcity77 on September 25, 2025, 03:43:50 PM
https://x.com/On3sports/status/1971262435727192428

Somewhere, a group of dentists is trying to figure out how to create "Warriors LLC" to license on the Marquette jerseys.
Title: Re: Latest NIL discussion for BC Hoopster
Post by: tower912 on September 25, 2025, 05:59:56 PM
Any idea what the RGV collection is going to look like?   
Title: Re: Latest NIL discussion for BC Hoopster
Post by: Scoop Snoop on September 25, 2025, 06:26:51 PM
Quote from: MU82 on September 24, 2025, 02:38:46 PMNow that D.C. is the safest, most crime-free city in the history of America, one would think Georgetown hoops would be an easy draw for big-time NIL $$$.

Scary thought-not just in DC, but anywhere in the country-imagine NIL $ for political endorsements.  :o

I can see it now-the Auburn team in a Bruce Pearl for Senator ad and patches on their unis...BRUCE!
Title: Re: Latest NIL discussion for BC Hoopster
Post by: dgies9156 on September 25, 2025, 07:00:49 PM
Quote from: brewcity77 on September 25, 2025, 03:43:50 PMhttps://x.com/On3sports/status/1971262435727192428

Somewhere, a group of dentists is trying to figure out how to create "Warriors LLC" to license on the Marquette jerseys.

Or "One call, that's all" patches.
Title: Re: Latest NIL discussion for BC Hoopster
Post by: DoctorV on September 25, 2025, 08:44:22 PM
Quote from: dgies9156 on September 25, 2025, 07:00:49 PMOr "One call, that's all" patches.

And a patch of freeway on the other side
Title: Re: Latest NIL discussion for BC Hoopster
Post by: tower912 on September 25, 2025, 08:47:51 PM
Who supplies the walking boots?
Title: Re: Latest NIL discussion for BC Hoopster
Post by: MU82 on September 25, 2025, 09:17:39 PM
Looking forward to the big MU Scoop patch that our annual fees can pay for.
Title: Re: Latest NIL discussion for BC Hoopster
Post by: barfolomew on September 26, 2025, 11:44:52 AM
Quote from: tower912 on September 25, 2025, 05:59:56 PMAny idea what the RGV collection is going to look like?   

It will probably be a plate or basket of some sort, maybe on a long pole that the ushers will stick down the rows during timeouts and halftime.
Title: Re: Latest NIL discussion for BC Hoopster
Post by: cheebs09 on September 26, 2025, 12:57:07 PM
Nice of them to do it the day after Taylor Swift's album release to not overshadow it.
Title: Re: Latest NIL discussion for BC Hoopster
Post by: muwarrior69 on September 26, 2025, 03:01:03 PM
Quote from: tower912 on September 23, 2025, 08:18:03 PMMU has landed players during the NIL era.  MU has retained players in the NIL era.  MU has paid players during the NIL era.  I have little doubt that MU, under Shaka, will continue to get quality recruits.

What you haven't seen is MU engage in a bidding war.  What you haven't seen is MU engage in negotiations to make one incoming freshman get a better deal than another.  You will not see MU dropping a $1.5 million bag on a recruit.

The NIL world is evolving.  It is different this season than last.  Schools and conferences are working to adapt to the new rules and will continue to do so.

Pearl played the game extremely well last season under the old rules, getting an extremely old and experienced team.  Those rules have changed, and the pool of players has changed.   

Shaka has remained rock solid.  The recruits and their families appreciate his commitment and his eschewing the portal.   With the constantly evolving rules, it may turn out that he is far ahead of the curve.



Question: How may players (football too) who entered the transfer portal did not wind up anywhere? There is a cautionary tale there somewhere.
Title: Re: Latest NIL discussion for BC Hoopster
Post by: Jay Bee on September 26, 2025, 04:46:33 PM
Quote from: muwarrior69 on September 26, 2025, 03:01:03 PMQuestion: How may players (football too) who entered the transfer portal did not wind up anywhere? There is a cautionary tale there somewhere.

Tons, but a lot who go into the portal know they may not find another home for various reasons
Title: Re: Latest NIL discussion for BC Hoopster
Post by: Mutaman on September 28, 2025, 12:33:16 AM
Quote from: BCHoopster on September 23, 2025, 09:36:19 PMI might be dumb but hope you idiots we're as successful in your life as I am!

Is this Chicos or Keefe posting under an assumed name?
Title: Re: Latest NIL discussion for BC Hoopster
Post by: brewcity77 on September 28, 2025, 05:56:38 AM
Quote from: Jay Bee on September 26, 2025, 04:46:33 PMTons, but a lot who go into the portal know they may not find another home for various reasons

And many aren't choosing to go in the portal, they're being told there's no spot for them anymore so their only choice to continue playing is to transfer.
Title: Re: Latest NIL discussion for BC Hoopster
Post by: Jay Bee on September 28, 2025, 07:22:22 AM
Quote from: brewcity77 on September 28, 2025, 05:56:38 AMAnd many aren't choosing to go in the portal, they're being told there's no spot for them anymore so their only choice to continue playing is to transfer.

And some of them spend a year at Dayton, praying for a way out after a week at that dump, and can't wait to hop in the portal

Also, most portal stats cited included division transfers and walk ons. One of our AAU guys started D3, transfers to D1 as a walk on for two years, then back in the portal to go D3 for nice PT. Multiple portal years, but not really who the casual fan is talking about re: transfer dislike in college sports.
Title: Re: Latest NIL discussion for BC Hoopster
Post by: UWW2MU on September 29, 2025, 12:42:10 PM
Quote from: brewcity77 on September 28, 2025, 05:56:38 AMAnd many aren't choosing to go in the portal, they're being told there's no spot for them anymore so their only choice to continue playing is to transfer.

The focus is always at the top tier of players and schools, but most people don't think about the vast numbers below them.  You look at the biggest schools and all the $$ they make or the best names and how much they should get paid, yet the average and lower tiers of actual student athletes get screwed in the new processes and systems.  The portal is great for the most talented, but now it's a lot easier for schools to quietly dump their players and potentially end their college athletic career.
Title: Re: Latest NIL discussion for BC Hoopster
Post by: MU82 on September 29, 2025, 01:07:34 PM
Quote from: UWW2MU on September 29, 2025, 12:42:10 PMThe focus is always at the top tier of players and schools, but most people don't think about the vast numbers below them.  You look at the biggest schools and all the $$ they make or the best names and how much they should get paid, yet the average and lower tiers of actual student athletes get screwed in the new processes and systems.  The portal is great for the most talented, but now it's a lot easier for schools to quietly dump their players and potentially end their college athletic career.

I hear what you're saying. But athletes like, say, Jamal Cain also benefit from not having to sit out a year if they transfer to a program more befitting their level.

Non-P5 athletes don't get the big bucks, but they do get the freedom of movement. And that's pretty much always a good thing.

Plus, "Buzz cuts" were taking place a decade before NIL and the portal existed. It's easy to romanticize the previous way things were done, but plenty of athletes were getting screwed by the process back then, too.
Title: Re: Latest NIL discussion for BC Hoopster
Post by: Galway Eagle on September 29, 2025, 03:29:56 PM
Quote from: MU82 on September 29, 2025, 01:07:34 PMI hear what you're saying. But athletes like, say, Jamal Cain also benefit from not having to sit out a year if they transfer to a program more befitting their level.

Non-P5 athletes don't get the big bucks, but they do get the freedom of movement. And that's pretty much always a good thing.

Plus, "Buzz cuts" were taking place a decade before NIL and the portal existed. It's easy to romanticize the previous way things were done, but plenty of athletes were getting screwed by the process back then, too.

I think Cain grad transferred using his Covid year so it's slightly different but agree overall.
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