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Title: Two Marquette Students Die in Auto Crash
Post by: brewcity77 on September 05, 2025, 09:55:02 PM
Dr. Ah Yung released the following statement.

Dear Marquette community,

I am writing to you with deep sadness to share the news that two Marquette University students died this evening in a near-campus vehicular accident. Two other Marquette students were injured in the accident — they are being treated at a local hospital. Out of respect for the students' families, no additional information is being shared at this time.

We grieve with the students' families and friends, as well as faculty, staff and fellow students here on campus who were touched by these students during their time in our community. I ask that you keep the families in your prayers. Such a loss is difficult to comprehend, and I know that the coming days will be difficult for our community.

A Mass will be held Saturday, Sept. 6, at 1 p.m. in the Chapel of the Holy Family for our Marquette community to gather. The Lunda Room and Henke Lounge in the AMU will be available from noon to 3 p.m. for Marquette community members to come together.

Counseling services and pastoral support are available on campus for all faculty, staff and students.

Members of the university's Counseling Center and Campus Ministry are available to provide support services to students for coping with grief and loss. Counseling Center staff are available 24/7 by calling (414) 288-7172.
The Marquette Employee Assistance Program is available 24/7 for all employees and members of their households. You may reach LifeMatters by calling 1-800-634-6433 or through their website. Use Password: MU1.
Grief affects each of us differently. As a university community, the connections and bonds we share are important in these difficult times. Please check in with your classmates, friends, colleagues and family members as we navigate this time of sorrow together. May God bless you and the entire Marquette community.   

Sincerely,

Dr. Kimo Ah Yun
President


https://today.marquette.edu/2025/09/mourning-the-loss-of-two-marquette-students/
Title: Re: Two Marquette Students Die in Auto Crash
Post by: Jay Bee on September 06, 2025, 06:12:36 AM
That is awful and sad. What do we know about the arrested driver?
Title: Re: Two Marquette Students Die in Auto Crash
Post by: brewcity77 on September 06, 2025, 07:54:35 AM
It's been released that both players were on the men's lacrosse team. Sophomores Noah Snyder and Scott Michaud.

As far as the other driver, she left the scene in handcuffs.
Title: Re: Two Marquette Students Die in Auto Crash
Post by: wadesworld on September 06, 2025, 08:20:58 AM
Awful. Thoughts and prayers for the victims, their family and friends, and others involved.
Title: Re: Two Marquette Students Die in Auto Crash
Post by: Jay Bee on September 06, 2025, 08:31:32 AM
Quote from: brewcity77 on September 06, 2025, 07:54:35 AMIt's been released that both players were on the men's lacrosse team. Sophomores Noah Snyder and Scott Michaud.

As far as the other driver, she left the scene in handcuffs.

Wow. I think I found her on the Milwaukee County jail roster. Has some abrasions on side of face. OWI for now, I'm sure more charges coming. Not going to name her because I'm not certain it's the one.

Rest in peace, Noah and Scott. 
Title: Re: Two Marquette Students Die in Auto Crash
Post by: Billy Hoyle on September 06, 2025, 09:07:01 AM
Quote from: brewcity77 on September 06, 2025, 07:54:35 AMIt's been released that both players were on the men's lacrosse team. Sophomores Noah Snyder and Scott Michaud.

As far as the other driver, she left the scene in handcuffs.

all home athletic events are cancelled for the weekend. A very sad situation.

https://x.com/muathletics/status/1964312754929471818
Title: Re: Two Marquette Students Die in Auto Crash
Post by: MuggsyB on September 06, 2025, 10:50:10 AM
Quote from: brewcity77 on September 06, 2025, 07:54:35 AMIt's been released that both players were on the men's lacrosse team. Sophomores Noah Snyder and Scott Michaud.

As far as the other driver, she left the scene in handcuffs.

Freaking awful. 
Title: Re: Two Marquette Students Die in Auto Crash
Post by: muwarrior69 on September 06, 2025, 03:22:08 PM
I lost my 17 year old son in car accident 25 years ago. Hearing this just brings it all back. There are no words, but a hug would be nice.
Title: Re: Two Marquette Students Die in Auto Crash
Post by: MuggsyB on September 06, 2025, 03:46:16 PM
Quote from: muwarrior69 on September 06, 2025, 03:22:08 PMI lost my 17 year old son in car accident 25 years ago. Hearing this just brings it all back. There are no words, but a hug would be nice.

How horrible.  I'm very sorry for you loss and pain. 
Title: Re: Two Marquette Students Die in Auto Crash
Post by: tower912 on September 06, 2025, 03:56:04 PM
That is a nightmare.  That never goes away.
Title: Re: Two Marquette Students Die in Auto Crash
Post by: Jay Bee on September 06, 2025, 04:08:23 PM
Quote from: muwarrior69 on September 06, 2025, 03:22:08 PMI lost my 17 year old son in car accident 25 years ago. Hearing this just brings it all back. There are no words, but a hug would be nice.

Sorry, brother. I can't imagine. Life is precious. We are lucky to be here imo.

Title: Re: Two Marquette Students Die in Auto Crash
Post by: Scoop Snoop on September 06, 2025, 04:38:35 PM
Quote from: muwarrior69 on September 06, 2025, 03:22:08 PMI lost my 17 year old son in car accident 25 years ago. Hearing this just brings it all back. There are no words, but a hug would be nice.

My wife's son died in a house fire at the age of 17. Although she never expects more than a brief conversation from them, she finds some comfort when she is in the presence of teen boys and is able to chat briefly with them about any subject.
Title: Re: Two Marquette Students Die in Auto Crash
Post by: MU82 on September 06, 2025, 06:01:25 PM
Quote from: muwarrior69 on September 06, 2025, 03:22:08 PMI lost my 17 year old son in car accident 25 years ago. Hearing this just brings it all back. There are no words, but a hug would be nice.

Very sad - any parent's nightmare. I feel for you, my friend.
Title: Re: Two Marquette Students Die in Auto Crash
Post by: jutaw22mu on September 06, 2025, 09:27:57 PM
Devasting loss for their families and the Marquette community.  May they rest in peace.
Title: Re: Two Marquette Students Die in Auto Crash
Post by: Jables1604 on September 07, 2025, 10:24:31 AM
https://x.com/sophia_tiedge/status/1964520969021886718?s=42
Title: Re: Two Marquette Students Die in Auto Crash
Post by: forgetful on September 07, 2025, 11:47:14 AM
Saw a couple classy posts from UW social media regarding this. Maybe there is still some good in the world that we can all recognize tragedy and support each other in difficult times.
Title: Re: Two Marquette Students Die in Auto Crash
Post by: Avenue Commons on September 09, 2025, 01:37:27 PM
Quote from: muwarrior69 on September 06, 2025, 03:22:08 PMI lost my 17 year old son in car accident 25 years ago. Hearing this just brings it all back. There are no words, but a hug would be nice.

I am deeply sorry for your loss. I can only imagine your pain. Here's a digital hug as much as there is such a thing. I'd give you the biggest bear hug if I could.
Title: Re: Two Marquette Students Die in Auto Crash
Post by: Jables1604 on September 10, 2025, 05:51:33 PM
https://www.wisn.com/article/driver-charged-in-crash-that-killed-2-marquette-lacrosse-players/66038853
Title: Re: Two Marquette Students Die in Auto Crash
Post by: CountryRoads on September 10, 2025, 07:32:45 PM
Devastating for the 2 MU kids. Sounds like it was a dangerous but common traffic scenario. The jeep w/ the MU players was traveling at an extremely high rate of speed for the location which can impact the decision making of other drivers, especially impaired ones.
Title: Re: Two Marquette Students Die in Auto Crash
Post by: wadesworld on September 10, 2025, 07:39:04 PM
Quote from: CountryRoads on September 10, 2025, 07:32:45 PMDevastating for the 2 MU kids. Sounds like it was a dangerous but common traffic scenario. The jeep w/ the MU players was traveling at an extremely high rate of speed for the location which can impact the decision making of other drivers, especially impaired ones.

Maybe impaired people should simply not operate a vehicle.
Title: Re: Two Marquette Students Die in Auto Crash
Post by: CountryRoads on September 10, 2025, 08:01:52 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on September 10, 2025, 07:39:04 PMMaybe impaired people should simply not operate a vehicle.

Can't argue with that.
Title: Re: Two Marquette Students Die in Auto Crash
Post by: mu_hilltopper on September 10, 2025, 08:52:54 PM
So if I'm reading that article correctly .. the kids were trying to make the yellow light, and the lady took a left in front of them?

Also curious of the kids in the Jeep, the seatbelt usage. 

I remember while I was at MU, a friend of mine's sister was killed, 5 kids in the car, 4 wearing seatbelts survived.

This is all heartbreaking .. just trying to make sense of the sadness.
Title: Re: Two Marquette Students Die in Auto Crash
Post by: lostpassword on September 11, 2025, 12:45:54 AM
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on September 10, 2025, 08:52:54 PMSo if I'm reading that article correctly .. the kids were trying to make the yellow light, and the lady took a left in front of them?


The article doesn't do a great job of describing exactly what happened.  The students were southbound at 53 mph (speed limit 30).  Woman was presumably northbound, was turning left to go west on St. Paul and accelerated "into the intersection from a stopped position while the light was yellow".  Not sure if she was already pulled into the intersection somewhat (as is common when turning left).  Not sure if the students sped up to make the yellow.  Not sure if she thought they were going to stop or if she thought she had time to complete the turn before they arrived or if she thought anything because of intoxication.

Terrible.
Title: Re: Two Marquette Students Die in Auto Crash
Post by: Scoop Snoop on September 11, 2025, 01:11:48 PM
Excerpts from an online story (Men's Journal):

An officer at the scene said Brunner displayed "bloodshot and glassy eyes, slurred speech, and difficulty keeping her balance. Also, officers recovered a grinder with a green leafy substance that tested positive for THC.

Testing revealed Brunner's blood-alcohol content to be 0.133, which is beyond Wisconsin's legal limit to drive of 0.08. CBS affiliate WISC-TV reported that Brunner has four prior convictions for operating a vehicle under the influence."


And yet she apparently still had a valid driver's license. WHY?

Title: Re: Two Marquette Students Die in Auto Crash
Post by: rocky_warrior on September 11, 2025, 01:50:27 PM
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on September 11, 2025, 01:11:48 PMAnd yet she apparently still had a valid driver's license. WHY?

She should not have been driving intoxicated, and certainly not allowed to for the...4th time??

But...absent that info...when two cars collide in an intersection during a yellow light, one traveling 11mph (19mph under the speed limit), and the other traveling 53mph (23mph over the speed limit)...which driver would you blame for the deaths in the accident?
Title: Re: Two Marquette Students Die in Auto Crash
Post by: Scoop Snoop on September 11, 2025, 02:16:36 PM
Quote from: rocky_warrior on September 11, 2025, 01:50:27 PMShe should not have been driving intoxicated, and certainly not allowed to for the...4th time??

But...absent that info...when two cars collide in an intersection during a yellow light, one traveling 11mph (19mph under the speed limit), and the other traveling 53mph (23mph over the speed limit)...which driver would you blame for the deaths in the accident?

No question that speeding places some of the blame on the Jeep driver, but if we are getting technical, failure to yield places the blame (by law) on the driver turning left into oncoming traffic.

A sober driver, seeing the other driver trying to beat a red light, would very likely have stayed and waited to turn.

It reminded me of an accident many years ago when 15-year-old me was in the front passenger seat and my mother was making a turn into a parking lot when a speeding car came right at us. The reason I remember it so well is because the car was heading straight for me. I yelled FLOOR IT! and she did, so we got hit very hard at the rear door rather than the one I was sitting by. The driver was extremely drunk and, after a few minutes drove off but not before I wrote down his tag number. No ticket was issued to either party as he was drunk and left the scene of an accident and, we later learned, a friend of the cop.

So, if your point is that, even with the drunk driving, there may be some blame assigned to the sober driver...fair enough. My point is that I doubt it would ever had happened without the driver being drunk and who should have had her license at least suspended if not permanently revoked due to the previous DUIs.  My scare as a teen when our car was demolished where we were hit is difficult to forget. No drunk, no accident, no close call.
Title: Re: Two Marquette Students Die in Auto Crash
Post by: rocky_warrior on September 11, 2025, 02:20:52 PM
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on September 11, 2025, 02:16:36 PMSo, if your point is that, even with the drunk driving, there may be some blame assigned to the sober driver...fair enough. My point is that I doubt it would ever had happened without the driver being drunk and who should have had her license at least suspended if not permanently revoked due to the previous DUIs.

I'm not exactly certain of my "point" - and as I mentioned it is surprising she was still even allowed to drive.

Certainly failing to yield is the cause of the accident.  Though if the accident were to happen at posted speed limits, I do question whether anyone would have died.

Similar to you, I was a passenger in a car heading one way at about 25-30mph.  We got t-boned on my side by another car that failed to yield (didn't see the stop sign) at 25-30mph.  Fortunately only cars totaled, and I had a stiff neck for a few weeks.
Title: Re: Two Marquette Students Die in Auto Crash
Post by: Scoop Snoop on September 11, 2025, 02:22:12 PM
Quote from: rocky_warrior on September 11, 2025, 02:20:52 PMI'm not exactly certain of my "point" - and as I mentioned it is surprising she was still even allowed to drive.

Certainly failing to yield is the cause of the accident.  Though if the accident were to happen at posted speed limits, I do question whether anyone would have died.

Very fair.
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