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Title: Closed scrimmages
Post by: tower912 on September 03, 2025, 02:29:38 PM
Missouri on October 9
@Colorado on October 16.

Obligatory Michael Beasley costing MU a seed line snark here.


Thoughts, Spackler?
Title: Re: Closed scrimmages
Post by: Uncle Rico on September 03, 2025, 02:54:19 PM
Quote from: tower912 on September 03, 2025, 02:29:38 PMMissouri on October 9
@Colorado on October 16.

Obligatory Michael Beasley costing MU a seed line snark here.


Thoughts, Spackler?

Missouri is 29th to start the year in T-Rank.  Good scrimmage choice.  Colorado is 99th.  Not as good but Marquette is 53.

Title: Re: Closed scrimmages
Post by: ATL MU Warrior on September 03, 2025, 04:04:03 PM
53???

Willie is right.  He knows ball
Title: Re: Closed scrimmages
Post by: JakeBarnes on September 04, 2025, 09:30:32 AM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 03, 2025, 02:54:19 PMMissouri is 29th to start the year in T-Rank.  Good scrimmage choice.  Colorado is 99th.  Not as good but Marquette is 53.



Scrimmages will help/hurt. Might have to cancel the season if we lose to Colorado though
Title: Re: Closed scrimmages
Post by: Jay Bee on September 04, 2025, 10:54:11 AM
Colorado vs. Marquette aka The-Hang-a-Banner Classic.
Title: Re: Closed scrimmages
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on September 04, 2025, 12:50:32 PM
Two years ago, beating Colorado was the highlight of the season.

And since Shaka refuses to use the portal, beating Colorado will also be the highlight of this season.
Title: Re: Closed scrimmages
Post by: The Sultan on September 04, 2025, 12:53:51 PM
Quote from: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on September 04, 2025, 12:50:32 PMTwo years ago, beating Colorado was the highlight of the season.

And since Shaka refuses to use the portal, beating Colorado will also be the highlight of this season.

Mile High Gap
Title: Re: Closed scrimmages
Post by: Johnny B on September 04, 2025, 09:12:25 PM
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on September 03, 2025, 04:04:03 PM53???

Willie is right.  He knows ball
Pretty reasonable imo, hopefully the team ends up being much better
Title: Re: Closed scrimmages
Post by: Stretchdeltsig on September 07, 2025, 10:02:46 AM
How is the team looking in practice? Has anyone seen them?
Title: Re: Closed scrimmages
Post by: ATL MU Warrior on September 07, 2025, 10:07:18 AM
I've heard they've all put on a couple of inches.
Title: Re: Closed scrimmages
Post by: Uncle Rico on September 07, 2025, 10:11:24 AM
Quote from: Stretchdeltsig on September 07, 2025, 10:02:46 AMHow is the team looking in practice? Has anyone seen them?

Sean Jones down to 5' 3"
Title: Re: Closed scrimmages
Post by: wadesworld on September 07, 2025, 10:20:48 AM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 07, 2025, 10:11:24 AMSean Jones down to 5' 3"

Heard he is playing for Ohio State this year.
Title: Re: Closed scrimmages
Post by: tower912 on September 07, 2025, 10:55:15 AM
Quote from: Stretchdeltsig on September 07, 2025, 10:02:46 AMHow is the team looking in practice? Has anyone seen them?
I think the best, most up to date info is from the scrimmage.
Title: Re: Closed scrimmages
Post by: DefinitelyNotPorterMoser on September 08, 2025, 08:37:50 AM
The guys are never going to recover from the altitude in Boulder.
Title: Re: Closed scrimmages
Post by: pbiflyer on October 11, 2025, 08:16:40 AM
Quote from: DefinitelyNotPorterMoser on September 08, 2025, 08:37:50 AMThe guys are never going to recover from the altitude in Boulder.
I did hear it's really high there.
Title: Re: Closed scrimmages
Post by: MuMark on October 11, 2025, 01:04:41 PM
Trilly confirms that they won.......1 seed still in play!

https://x.com/trillydonovan/status/1977071345952555086?s=61&t=6XPB8f4sAKmJIzxgMcsCjw
Title: Re: Closed scrimmages
Post by: JakeBarnes on October 11, 2025, 01:18:58 PM
Quote from: MuMark on October 11, 2025, 01:04:41 PMTrilly confirms that they won.......1 seed still in play!

https://x.com/trillydonovan/status/1977071345952555086?s=61&t=6XPB8f4sAKmJIzxgMcsCjw

How much though? Need to know the impact on our kenpom rank
Title: Re: Closed scrimmages
Post by: jfp61 on October 11, 2025, 04:00:46 PM
Quote from: JakeBarnes on October 11, 2025, 01:18:58 PMHow much though? Need to know the impact on our kenpom rank

Seeing how they played a 50-60 minute game..
Title: Re: Closed scrimmages
Post by: tower912 on October 16, 2025, 06:57:56 AM
Colorado is an opponent and must be defeated in a scrimmage.
Title: Re: Closed scrimmages
Post by: Shooter McGavin on October 26, 2025, 03:55:31 PM
Did MU have a closed practice this weekend?  Wades, are you worried?  Just checking in. 
Title: Re: Closed scrimmages
Post by: wadesworld on October 26, 2025, 05:51:43 PM
Quote from: Shooter McGavin on October 26, 2025, 03:55:31 PMDid MU have a closed practice this weekend?  Wades, are you worried?  Just checking in. 

Haven't heard anything concerning from GE so not worried.
Title: Re: Closed scrimmages
Post by: pbiflyer on October 26, 2025, 09:34:51 PM
Was it


Or

Title: Re: Closed scrimmages
Post by: The Sultan on October 27, 2025, 07:59:06 AM
https://x.com/themuuncle/status/1982550181636902962?s=46&t=IFyqCfn_q4QhoPlEHbGRSg
Title: Re: Closed scrimmages
Post by: Shooter McGavin on October 27, 2025, 08:03:47 AM
Love the 40 fouls comment in the next post.
Title: Re: Closed scrimmages
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on October 27, 2025, 08:55:13 AM
Without knowing the details, we can't glean much from this result.

As long as the starters played well, that's all that matters.  The backups and redshirts get some valuable reps for the future, see how they stack up to D1 competition, and learn what they need to work on.
Title: Re: Closed scrimmages
Post by: Shooter McGavin on October 27, 2025, 09:08:29 AM
Agreed JAM.  And if there is any truth to the 40 fouls, they are trying to work the kinks out on pressuring the crap out of teams.  Can't wait for the season to start.  Need to see these guys play before I can come to any conclusions.
Title: Re: Closed scrimmages
Post by: TallTitan34 on October 27, 2025, 09:21:06 AM
I would wait until a more reputable source reports some information instead of a random, newly created twitter account following known troll accounts.
Title: Re: Closed scrimmages
Post by: brewcity77 on October 27, 2025, 09:37:30 AM
Yeah, account created in October 2025, 6 followers, that's the definition of a BS post.
Title: Re: Closed scrimmages
Post by: wadesworld on October 27, 2025, 10:50:48 AM
But, if they had said MU won by 12 I'd be all in on it.
Title: Re: Closed scrimmages
Post by: MUbiz on October 27, 2025, 12:14:47 PM
I have heard we lost from my cousin who knows some of the players on the team. I have zero clue about the 40 fouls however. Either way, does not matter. They run a bunch of stuff in scrimmages like 2 min drills in the middle of the scrimmage, have rotations that we will not see during reg season and also coaches will not run certain sets as they want to save them for reg season.
Title: Re: Closed scrimmages
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on October 27, 2025, 12:26:42 PM
Quote from: MUbiz on October 27, 2025, 12:14:47 PMI have heard we lost from my cousin who knows some of the players on the team. I have zero clue about the 40 fouls however. Either way, does not matter. They run a bunch of stuff in scrimmages like 2 min drills in the middle of the scrimmage, have rotations that we will not see during reg season and also coaches will not run certain sets as they want to save them for reg season.

That wouldn't surprise me.

Colorado has 8 guys over 6'8" and three 7 footers. A team like that will always give us problems. Elijah Malone was a guy Shaka looked at in the portal and he is like 6'10" 300 pounds. Just a scrimmage and a tough matchup for us.

So long as we made it out of there healthy that's all that matters.
Title: Re: Closed scrimmages
Post by: wadesworld on October 27, 2025, 12:29:24 PM
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on October 27, 2025, 12:26:42 PMThat wouldn't surprise me.

Colorado has 8 guys over 6'8" and three 7 footers. A team like that will always give us problems. Elijah Malone was a guy Shaka looked at in the portal and he is like 6'10" 300 pounds. Just a scrimmage and a tough matchup for us.

So long as we made it out of there healthy that's all that matters.

Why?  Mizzou has 8 guys over 6'8", a 7'5" player, a 7' player, and two 6'11" players and we apparently just beat them in a scrimmage.

Marquette has two 6'11" guys and a 7'1" guy.
Title: Re: Closed scrimmages
Post by: Uncle Rico on October 27, 2025, 12:30:11 PM
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on October 27, 2025, 12:26:42 PMThat wouldn't surprise me.

Colorado has 8 guys over 6'8" and three 7 footers. A team like that will always give us problems. Elijah Malone was a guy Shaka looked at in the portal and he is like 6'10" 300 pounds. Just a scrimmage and a tough matchup for us.

So long as we made it out of there healthy that's all that matters.

Disagree.  Losing is contagious and accepting scrimmage losses is the path to more losing. 
Title: Re: Closed scrimmages
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on October 27, 2025, 12:35:34 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on October 27, 2025, 12:29:24 PMWhy?  Mizzou has 8 guys over 6'8", a 7'5" player, a 7' player, and two 6'11" players and we apparently just beat them in a scrimmage.

Marquette has two 6'11" guys and a 7'1" guy.

It's not really a secret that we struggle against the bigs that operate in the post and use their size well. We don't even know what the scrimmage setting was. Was it set up like a standard game? Was it set up in different little mini games? Did they play normal rotations.

Either way. No big deal. Just a scrimmage. Health is priority number 1.
Title: Re: Closed scrimmages
Post by: TedBaxter on October 27, 2025, 01:46:44 PM
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on October 27, 2025, 12:26:42 PMElijah Malone was a guy Shaka looked at in the portal and he is like 6'10" 300 pounds.

Malone played 4 years at the NAIA level for 139 career games.  He played 34 games for Colorado last year, so his career total going into his 6th year is 173 games.  I'm going out on a limb to say Malone will be the all time leader in total college games played after the year, provided he doesn't have an injury.  Could be up to 205 plus game at the end of 2025-26.  David Joplin holds the MU record with 139 games played.
Title: Re: Closed scrimmages
Post by: wadesworld on October 27, 2025, 01:49:02 PM
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on October 27, 2025, 12:35:34 PMIt's not really a secret that we struggle against the bigs that operate in the post and use their size well. We don't even know what the scrimmage setting was. Was it set up like a standard game? Was it set up in different little mini games? Did they play normal rotations.

Either way. No big deal. Just a scrimmage. Health is priority number 1.

Do we "struggle against the bigs that operate in the post and use their size well," or do we struggle against some of the better players in college basketball, like most team will struggle against?
Title: Re: Closed scrimmages
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on October 27, 2025, 02:08:32 PM
Quote from: TedBaxter on October 27, 2025, 01:46:44 PMMalone played 4 years at the NAIA level for 139 career games.  He played 34 games for Colorado last year, so his career total going into his 6th year is 173 games.  I'm going out on a limb to say Malone will be the all time leader in total college games played after the year, provided he doesn't have an injury.  Could be up to 205 plus game at the end of 2025-26.  David Joplin holds the MU record with 139 games played.

Fun little fact.

Wonder how many years of eligibility after this one the NCAA will give him.
Title: Re: Closed scrimmages
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on October 27, 2025, 02:09:42 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on October 27, 2025, 01:49:02 PMDo we "struggle against the bigs that operate in the post and use their size well," or do we struggle against some of the better players in college basketball, like most team will struggle against?

Fair question, though there have been a handful of bigs nowhere close to the best or better college players in the game that have given us problems at times.
Title: Re: Closed scrimmages
Post by: MU82 on October 27, 2025, 02:28:24 PM
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on October 27, 2025, 12:35:34 PMIt's not really a secret that we struggle against the bigs that operate in the post and use their size well. We don't even know what the scrimmage setting was. Was it set up like a standard game? Was it set up in different little mini games? Did they play normal rotations.


It's also not really a secret that we can't beat Big Ten teams or that Shaka can't beat Gard, except both happened last year. New team, new year. Who knows what this season's team can or can't do yet? Maybe opposing centers will have problems against this Marquette team.
Title: Re: Closed scrimmages
Post by: WhiteTrash on October 27, 2025, 02:35:42 PM
I like playing CU. Tad Boyle is a good coach so I can see real value of facing his team. I thought Boyle would be a solid coach for MU if Shaka didn't come.
Title: Re: Closed scrimmages
Post by: rocky_warrior on October 27, 2025, 03:25:35 PM
Quote from: WhiteTrash on October 27, 2025, 02:35:42 PMI like playing CU. Tad Boyle is a good coach so I can see real value of facing his team. I thought Boyle would be a solid coach for MU if Shaka didn't come.

WTF!!!  Tad has had Wojo like results in his tenure.
Title: Re: Closed scrimmages
Post by: The Sultan on October 27, 2025, 03:37:55 PM
Tad Boyle would have been fired years ago if he were coaching at a place that was actually serious about basketball.
Title: Re: Closed scrimmages
Post by: barfolomew on October 28, 2025, 08:18:18 AM
We shouldn't still be talking about Colorado.
Everyone knows the next closed scrimmage is the most important.
Set your sights on 2026, people.
Title: Re: Closed scrimmages
Post by: WhiteTrash on October 28, 2025, 08:22:30 AM
Quote from: The Sultan on October 27, 2025, 03:37:55 PMTad Boyle would have been fired years ago if he were coaching at a place that was actually serious about basketball.
I think Tad would be better at a place like MU, that cares about basketball. I just look at CU's commitment to basketball and the relative success he has had, and I think he is a good coach.  I could be wrong and this is not a hill I'd die on.
Title: Re: Closed scrimmages
Post by: Uncle Rico on October 28, 2025, 08:30:37 AM
Quote from: WhiteTrash on October 28, 2025, 08:22:30 AMI think Tad would be better at a place like MU, that cares about basketball. I just look at CU's commitment to basketball and the relative success he has had, and I think he is a good coach.  I could be wrong and this is not a hill I'd die on.

He's a good coach
Title: Re: Closed scrimmages
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on October 28, 2025, 09:46:35 AM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 28, 2025, 08:30:37 AMHe's a good coach


A Tad bit overrated.
Title: Re: Closed scrimmages
Post by: The Sultan on October 28, 2025, 09:51:01 AM
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on October 28, 2025, 09:46:35 AMA Tad bit overrated.

This type of joke makes my blood boyle.
Title: Re: Closed scrimmages
Post by: WhiteTrash on October 28, 2025, 10:31:46 AM
Quote from: The Sultan on October 28, 2025, 09:51:01 AMThis type of joke makes my blood boyle.
I've had enough dad jokes, I'll CU later.
Title: Re: Closed scrimmages
Post by: rocky_warrior on October 28, 2025, 10:35:18 AM
Quote from: The Sultan on October 28, 2025, 09:51:01 AMThis type of joke makes my blood boyle.

I mean, he called your Buff
Title: Re: Closed scrimmages
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on October 28, 2025, 10:39:17 AM
Quote from: rocky_warrior on October 28, 2025, 10:35:18 AMI mean, he called your Buff

This thread has reached alo point.
Title: Re: Closed scrimmages
Post by: Galway Eagle on October 28, 2025, 11:33:55 AM
I thought these puns would be boulder
Title: Re: Closed scrimmages
Post by: wadesworld on October 28, 2025, 12:07:00 PM
You guys are nerds.
Title: Re: Closed scrimmages
Post by: MU82 on October 28, 2025, 12:57:28 PM
This has been much (Color)ado about nothing.
Title: Re: Closed scrimmages
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on October 28, 2025, 01:28:35 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on October 28, 2025, 12:07:00 PMYou guys are nerds.

Tough not to be when your leaders last name is Smart.
Title: Re: Closed scrimmages
Post by: tower912 on October 28, 2025, 01:48:35 PM
From a Colorado Buffalo coaching pun rating standpoint, I have to give you all a Deion these.
Title: Re: Closed scrimmages
Post by: Billy Hoyle on October 29, 2025, 08:34:29 AM
does anyone know why MU is continuing with closed scrimmages instead of the exhibition games open to fans like Purdue @ Kentucky, MSU @ Uconn, Michigan @ St. John's (in MSG), etc? Not a criticism, just curious what the philosophy is.
Title: Re: Closed scrimmages
Post by: Nukem2 on October 29, 2025, 08:58:01 AM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on October 29, 2025, 08:34:29 AMdoes anyone know why MU is continuing with closed scrimmages instead of the exhibition games open to fans like Purdue @ Kentucky, MSU @ Uconn, Michigan @ St. John's (in MSG), etc? Not a criticism, just curious what the philosophy is.
Shaka has said he likes the scrimmages better so that there is more coach control over what is happening..ie, coaches from both teams can set up action within the scrimmage to work on specific parts of the team game.
Title: Re: Closed scrimmages
Post by: Shooter McGavin on October 29, 2025, 09:03:57 AM
Do the open scrimmage proceeds have to go to charity anymore?  I thought they did at one point.  If that is no longer the case and players can be paid from that extra source of revenue, I would expect that to change for MU in the near future.
Title: Re: Closed scrimmages
Post by: Billy Hoyle on October 29, 2025, 09:29:38 AM
Quote from: Shooter McGavin on October 29, 2025, 09:03:57 AMDo the open scrimmage proceeds have to go to charity anymore?  I thought they did at one point.  If that is no longer the case and players can be paid from that extra source of revenue, I would expect that to change for MU in the near future.

Not anymore. That requirement was eliminated during the off-season and schools can decide how to allocate the revenue generated from these games.

Additionally, the requirement that preseason practice scrimmages had to be conducted in private and without official scoring was eliminated, so no more "secret" scrimmages.

One thing I did find interesting about the "secret" scrimmages were how coaches would play a full"game" then set up scenarios, like "Marquette down six with two minutes left," then do the same for the other team.
Title: Re: Closed scrimmages
Post by: MU82 on October 29, 2025, 01:26:53 PM
When I assistant coached for a highly competitive high school team in NC, my head coach loved controlled scrimmages. He thought they were the single best way to work on game situations in preparation for the season, while also fine-tuning both offensive and defensive game plans. So I would think many college coaches would value them similarly.
Title: Re: Closed scrimmages
Post by: CountryRoads on October 29, 2025, 01:43:27 PM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on October 29, 2025, 08:34:29 AMdoes anyone know why MU is continuing with closed scrimmages instead of the exhibition games open to fans like Purdue @ Kentucky, MSU @ Uconn, Michigan @ St. John's (in MSG), etc? Not a criticism, just curious what the philosophy is.

Anyone know if these are baked into the season ticket packages for those schools? If so, I'm a little surprised they would let Shaka do the closed ones if there was potential revenue left on the table for an extra game or two. When I had ST back in the day, I could have sworn they were but I could also easily be mistaken.
Title: Re: Closed scrimmages
Post by: The Sultan on October 29, 2025, 01:44:56 PM
Quote from: CountryRoads on October 29, 2025, 01:43:27 PMAnyone know if these are baked into the season ticket packages for those schools? If so, I'm a little surprised they would let Shaka do the closed ones if there was potential revenue left on the table for an extra game or two. When I had ST back in the day, I could have sworn they were but I could also easily be mistaken.

I think they let Shaka manage these things how he wants them managed.
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