Will it even be competitive?
Quote from: tower912 on September 02, 2025, 07:07:12 PMWill it even be competitive?
Sure hope to see a Team Europe rout
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 02, 2025, 07:21:34 PMSure hope to see a Team Europe rout
I like Keegan. Big East! I just think Europe romps.
I stopped rooting for team USA during the Tiger era. I haven't gotten back into the habit. Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't. Usually I don't know who I am rooting for until I start watching. Kind of where I am right now.
Quote from: MU1in77 on September 02, 2025, 07:36:17 PMWhy?
Because they don't have Patrick Cantlay or Bryson Dechambeau.
Quote from: tower912 on September 02, 2025, 07:30:28 PMI like Keegan. Big East! I just think Europe romps.
Keegan wouldn't be captain if Tiger actually cared about the Ryder Cup or FIGJAM didn't continually piss on the tour and its players. I know the PGA of America runs this, but there ain't any tour players that wanted to play for him.
Keegan was also handpicked by the players, not the PGA of America. The good ol' boy system. Not saying he can't be a good captain, he very well could be, but I'm curious how much he'll be a captain or how much he'll kowtow to the players.
The American approach to captains has always been bizarre. The European team picks guys like Stephen Gallacher, Thomas Bjorn or Luke Donald and do fine. America treats the captaincy around majors and being part of the cabal.
Quote from: MU1in77 on September 02, 2025, 07:36:17 PMWhy?
Generally, they play with more spirit and style and camaraderie.
They also seem more like regular guys - I'd like to have a beer with them.
Quote from: MU82 on September 02, 2025, 09:15:44 PMGenerally, they play with more spirit and style and camaraderie.
They also seem more like regular guys - I'd like to have a beer with them.
Bryson ordering a beer: "One human beer, please"
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 03, 2025, 06:51:20 AMBryson ordering a beer: "One human beer, please"
Dude will test the pH and tell the brewer it's not actually the right level for a true lager.
Quote from: cheebs09 on September 03, 2025, 09:39:37 AMDude will test the pH and tell the brewer it's not actually the right level for a true lager.
Golf announcers proclaiming him a "professor" and "mad genius" need to take a lot of the blame for High Noon bros elevating Bryson into being popular
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 03, 2025, 10:11:03 AMGolf announcers proclaiming him a "professor" and "mad genius" need to take a lot of the blame for High Noon bros elevating Bryson into being popular
I don't like Bryson, but he knows how to work an angle. He's got some pro wrestler in him.
Golf announcers are a pretty dumb group, so not the hardest group to work, but he knew the right buttons to push. Same goes with the golf bros he works on YouTube.
Quote from: RJax55 on September 03, 2025, 10:51:31 AMI don't like Bryson, but he knows how to work an angle. He's got some pro wrestler in him.
Golf announcers are a pretty dumb group, so not the hardest group to work, but he knew the right buttons to push. Same goes with the golf bros he works on YouTube.
Watching Paul Azinger the last decade was quite enlightening about how dumb they are. And how out of touch they are with golf outside the professional level.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 03, 2025, 10:11:03 AMGolf announcers proclaiming him a "professor" and "mad genius" need to take a lot of the blame for High Noon bros elevating Bryson into being popular
Quote from: RJax55 on September 03, 2025, 10:51:31 AMI don't like Bryson, but he knows how to work an angle. He's got some pro wrestler in him.
Golf announcers are a pretty dumb group, so not the hardest group to work, but he knew the right buttons to push. Same goes with the golf bros he works on YouTube.
Its like "athlete funny". Some athletes are genuinely hilarious in any context (Blake Griffin comes to mind) but you have other guys who are funny or clever, but they wouldn't stand out as anything but pretty funny in a normal group of people, but among other dim or weirdo athletes, they seem f-ing hysterical.
Bryson is a smart dude by any realistic measure (physics major at very good college, extremely high spatial recognition, unique and thoughtful/reasoned approach to the "science of golf" regardless how much you buy into what he thinks or does), but among the dull and flat realm of professional golf, he seems profoundly special and brilliant for a shallow and snapshot view of a player. So its super easy to latch onto for lazy commentators.
But as for the angles, totally agree. The self awareness he's seemingly developed over the last few years, plus the credibility winning a major got him, has allowed him to not only build brand and identity over what he's interested in, but also pull all the right levers to make golf media fawn over it.
I think the most impressive thing to me is that he's absolutely not just a nerd, but a dork, but he's been able to shape everything around that so it comes off as the aforementioned cool genius mad scientist, and not a total doofus like a number of other dorks on tour.
My BIL once said, after a few drinks when he got venting over some of the pros he's dealt with, "with a few obvious exceptions, the coolest guys on tour aren't some impressive aura athletes like the NBA or NFL, they are normal dudes you'd have a beer with...but the rest of them are awkward 30 going on 50 year old guys who seem like the type who would have had a rolling backpack in HS and melt down if their routine or worldview is disrupted"
Quote from: JWags85 on September 03, 2025, 11:24:44 AMIts like "athlete funny". Some athletes are genuinely hilarious in any context (Blake Griffin comes to mind) but you have other guys who are funny or clever, but they wouldn't stand out as anything but pretty funny in a normal group of people, but among other dim or weirdo athletes, they seem f-ing hysterical.
Bryson is a smart dude by any realistic measure (physics major at very good college, extremely high spatial recognition, unique and thoughtful/reasoned approach to the "science of golf" regardless how much you buy into what he thinks or does), but among the dull and flat realm of professional golf, he seems profoundly special and brilliant for a shallow and snapshot view of a player. So its super easy to latch onto for lazy commentators.
But as for the angles, totally agree. The self awareness he's seemingly developed over the last few years, plus the credibility winning a major got him, has allowed him to not only build brand and identity over what he's interested in, but also pull all the right levers to make golf media fawn over it.
I think the most impressive thing to me is that he's absolutely not just a nerd, but a dork, but he's been able to shape everything around that so it comes off as the aforementioned cool genius mad scientist, and not a total doofus like a number of other dorks on tour.
My BIL once said, after a few drinks when he got venting over some of the pros he's dealt with, "with a few obvious exceptions, the coolest guys on tour aren't some impressive aura athletes like the NBA or NFL, they are normal dudes you'd have a beer with...but the rest of them are awkward 30 going on 50 year old guys who seem like the type who would have had a rolling backpack in HS and melt down if their routine or worldview is disrupted"
Golfers are the most insular athletes in the world, well, on the American side of the sport. Shane Ryan's "Slaying the Tiger" was a real eye-opener in this regard. These guys are insulated by their teams and the tour.
Always second hand but the stories about Jerry Kelly in Wisconsin golf circles paint the picture of a total douchebag. Then you read Gary D'Amato write about him and you get a different picture. I tend to believe the people inside Wisconsin golf because they get the real Jerry Kelly, not the polished media Jerry Kelly.
OTOH, I have had very nice interactions with Andy North, and my understanding is that he is generally a good dude. Same with Steve Stricker - other than he's a bit odd.
Quote from: The Sultan on September 03, 2025, 12:18:14 PMOTOH, I have had very nice interactions with Andy North, and my understanding is that he is generally a good dude. Same with Steve Stricker - other than he's a bit odd.
Far less accomplished, but my neighbors growing up went to Nicolet with Skip Kendall (husband played golf with him) and were still friends with them to the extent that they would stay with them in Florida occasionally, and they couldn't say nicer things about him. Maybe cause he no longer lived in Wisconsin and wasn't a big fish in a little pond golf wise.
Quote from: The Sultan on September 03, 2025, 12:18:14 PMOTOH, I have had very nice interactions with Andy North, and my understanding is that he is generally a good dude. Same with Steve Stricker - other than he's a bit odd.
Andy North was also Bo Ryan's wingman for picking up road beef on recruiting trips
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 03, 2025, 12:58:26 PMAndy North was also Bo Ryan's wingman for picking up road beef on recruiting trips
Ive always found it interesting that Andy North is a venerated and integral part of the greater UW athletic department despite being a UF grad and being in their HOF (but other than that having no real connection to UF). But I guess other than two frankly very flukey US Open wins (only 1 other major top 10 in 50+ tournaments, nearly 50% major missed cut rate, 1 other PGA tour win), he had a pretty middling/unmemorable career. Enough to be an exceptional Wisconsin sports figure, but not down there.
Quote from: JWags85 on September 03, 2025, 03:32:21 PMIve always found it interesting that Andy North is a venerated and integral part of the greater UW athletic department despite being a UF grad and being in their HOF (but other than that having no real connection to UF). But I guess other than two frankly very flukey US Open wins (only 1 other major top 10 in 50+ tournaments, nearly 50% major missed cut rate, 1 other PGA tour win), he had a pretty middling/unmemorable career. Enough to be an exceptional Wisconsin sports figure, but not down there.
Wisconsin doesn't produce great volumes of golfers for a reason. Steve Stricker is a big Badger presence now and he freaking went to Illinois.
Say this about Andy North, Trappers Turn sucks
Quote from: JWags85 on September 03, 2025, 03:32:21 PMIve always found it interesting that Andy North is a venerated and integral part of the greater UW athletic department despite being a UF grad and being in their HOF (but other than that having no real connection to UF). But I guess other than two frankly very flukey US Open wins (only 1 other major top 10 in 50+ tournaments, nearly 50% major missed cut rate, 1 other PGA tour win), he had a pretty middling/unmemorable career. Enough to be an exceptional Wisconsin sports figure, but not down there.
He grew up in Madison (Monona actually) as a Badger fan, went to UF because its a good golf school, but came back to Madison soon afterwards.
He actually was a volunteer coach for the UW football team under Dave McClain back when they had those roles.
Quote from: The Sultan on September 03, 2025, 03:50:58 PMHe grew up in Madison (Monona actually) as a Badger fan, went to UF because its a good golf school, but came back to Madison soon afterwards.
He actually was a volunteer coach for the UW football team under Dave McClain back when they had those roles.
He was born in Thorp. Wonder how many meals he had at the Thorpedo Restaurant
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 03, 2025, 03:44:26 PMWisconsin doesn't produce great volumes of golfers for a reason. Steve Stricker is a big Badger presence now and he freaking went to Illinois.
Yeah, you'd think that trend would probably continue too. I don't think there has been a PGA regular since the guys we were talking about above. Jordan Niebrugge from Mequon seemed like he was gonna break the streak. Monster HS golfer, youngest State Open winner, probably the best amateur in state history, went to Ok State when they were churning out top pros and had a really good college career, couple Walker Cup teams, broke Bobby Jones record for low Amateur at The Open Championship, finished 6th, top 30 at the US Open a few years later at Erin Hills...then just faded out of nowhere. Now he's an assistant coach at Marquette.
Knew Stricker a little bit. Always felt he's a good guy.
Ryder Cup week. And I am unlikely to watch a moment, as I will be on a 3 day Northern Michigan color tour with my bride to celebrate being empty nesters.
Go, Golf!
I see the home team winning streak and how the course is being set up to the American specs... and I still think the Euros win.
But I don't care enough to actually watch.
Quote from: tower912 on September 22, 2025, 12:11:03 PMRyder Cup week. And I am unlikely to watch a moment, as I will be on a 3 day Northern Michigan color tour with my bride to celebrate being empty nesters.
Go, Golf!
I see the home team winning streak and how the course is being set up to the American specs... and I still think the Euros win.
But I don't care enough to actually watch.
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Busy sports weekend coming up, with Ryder Cup, full slate of NFL and college football, and final days of MLB regular season.
I'm looking forward to the Ryder Cup. I think Europe is the slight favorite. Perhaps some of our guys will step up?
Quote from: MuggsyB on September 22, 2025, 06:56:37 PMI'm looking forward to the Ryder Cup. I think Europe is the slight favorite. Perhaps some of our guys will step up?
I'm counting on some of my guys stepping up. Rory, Fairway Jesus, Rose, etc.
EDIT:
The United States are currently -145 favorites at BetMGM. The majority of bets (58%) and dollars wagered (68%) are on America to win.
Halvor Egeland, a BetMGM trader manager, told Yahoo Sports. "I'd love to be patriotic, but it looks like the book will be cheering for Europe. Scottie Scheffler and Rory McIlroy are taking the most action on top points scorer, to no surprise."
https://sports.yahoo.com/golf/breaking-news/article/ryder-cup-luke-donald-said-this-isnt-a-week-to-get-paid-as-us-team-receives-stipend-at-bethpage-black-002744964.html
I applaud beer prices of $15-19. Don't get drunk.
Sadly, those prices aren't that bad. And there's no way that'll stop people from enjoying themselves
I'm super pumped for this to start. I think the US wins but it's close
Quote from: swoopem on September 24, 2025, 07:58:25 AMSadly, those prices aren't that bad. And there's no way that'll stop people from enjoying themselves
I'm super pumped for this to start. I think the US wins but it's close
Yeah that's what the Honda classic or whatever it is called now here charged when I went 5 years ago.
Quote from: swoopem on September 24, 2025, 07:58:25 AMSadly, those prices aren't that bad. And there's no way that'll stop people from enjoying themselves
I'm super pumped for this to start. I think the US wins but it's close
Who comes through for us that no one is talking about? Spaun?
Quote from: MuggsyB on September 24, 2025, 09:22:12 PMWho comes through for us that no one is talking about? Spaun?
Tiger
Nobody. One team is playing for pride and each other. One team is playing for money.
Quote from: tower912 on September 25, 2025, 06:13:39 AMNobody. One team is playing for pride and each other. One team is playing for money.
This is such horse sh!t
Every one of the guys that was asked (that I saw) said they were donating the extra $200k to charity. Are they suppose to say, no we don't want it? The PGA of America or whoever it is basically said they hadn't updated the original $200k amount since 1999 and now they've caught up to the times. People are exaggerating this so much
Also, I expect JT to have a huge week and for the rookies I'd say Henley cuz he'll be playing with Scottie a lot
I thought it was (poor form) when Woods and Duval were whining about it 20 + years ago. One of the thing that made me a team Europe fan decades ago.
Quote from: swoopem on September 25, 2025, 07:28:02 AMThis is such horse sh!t
Every one of the guys that was asked (that I saw) said they were donating the extra $200k to charity. Are they suppose to say, no we don't want it? People are exaggerating this so much
Also, I expect JT to have a huge week and for the rookies I'd say Henley cus he'll be playing with Scottie a lot
They brought it on themselves. No sympathy for them. Collectively, the last 30+ years of American golfers have been a bunch of out-of-touch, spoiled rich kids who think they're bigger than the game. Very few are bigger than the game and worst yet, very few actually care about the game outside their narrow world.
I'm all for them making every $ they can and holding the PGA of America accountable but spare me they've been unfairly treated.
A lot of people talk about the red, white and blue (not you) and representing their country for free. Very few actually do it. And most of these American players expect OUR patriotism to be free and loud
Quote from: tower912 on September 25, 2025, 07:29:52 AMI thought it was horseshit when Woods and Duval were doing it whining about it 20 + years ago. One of the thing that made me a team Europe fan decades ago.
Sergio says hi. He made me a fan.....of the USA team. ;D
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 25, 2025, 07:34:34 AMThey brought it on themselves. No sympathy for them. Collectively, the last 30+ years of American golfers have been a bunch of out-of-touch, spoiled rich kids who think they're bigger than the game. Very few are bigger than the game and worst yet, very few actually care about the game outside their narrow world.
I'm all for them making every $ they can and holding the PGA of America accountable but spare me they've been unfairly treated.
A lot of people talk about the red, white and blue (not you) and representing their country for free. Very few actually do it. And most of these American players expect OUR patriotism to be free and loud
No no no...they expect us to BUY our patriotism.
And really the only reason they are donating the extra to charity is because of the backlash.
Quote from: tower912 on September 25, 2025, 07:29:52 AMI thought it was (poor form) when Woods and Duval were whining about it 20 + years ago. One of the thing that made me a team Europe fan decades ago.
You should be rooting for your country. All of these guys whine except Spaun.
Quote from: MuggsyB on September 25, 2025, 09:46:09 AMYou should be rooting for your country.
Ah yes. Blind patriotism. What could go wrong?
Quote from: MuggsyB on September 25, 2025, 09:46:09 AMYou should be rooting for your country. All of these guys whine except Spaun.
Why? Just following orders?
Quote from: MuggsyB on September 25, 2025, 09:46:09 AMYou should be rooting for your country.
You rooted extremely enthusiastically for Rafa Nadal for nearly two decades, Comrade.
Quote from: MU82 on September 25, 2025, 12:47:36 PMYou rooted extremely enthusiastically for Rafa Nadal for nearly two decades, Comrade.
I know this, if the American team loses, everyone one of them should be sent to Guatemala and put in prison
Sergio is an ass. However, 'hit the ball Sergio' also ticked me off and mitigated slightly my dislike of Garcia. IJP was a favorite.
Quote from: MU82 on September 25, 2025, 12:47:36 PMYou rooted extremely enthusiastically for Rafa Nadal for nearly two decades, Comrade.
Comrade? Pinko Commie sleeper agent is more like it!
Match one tomorrow is must see TV
I wish match two and three were flipped and Scottie/Russ were playing Rory but whatever
I also thought Burns would be with Morkikawa cuz of his putting but Harris is solid also
Overall, I'm pumped. Gonna be an awesome weekend
Extremely disappointed Spaun isn't going out in the morning.
Quote from: MU82 on September 25, 2025, 12:47:36 PMYou rooted extremely enthusiastically for Rafa Nadal for nearly two decades, Comrade.
Not in Davis Cup vs the USA. Big difference here....there were no American men challenging Rafa at all.
Quote from: MuggsyB on September 25, 2025, 07:04:15 PMExtremely disappointed Spaun isn't going out in the morning.
Not really, I'm pretty sure he plays a Sirxon ball which I don't think anyone else on the team does. That doesn't work in alternate shot. As Keegan said earlier this week, the ball is the one thing we use on every swing, playing with a ball you don't normally use is a huge deal. Makes total sense
Quote from: swoopem on September 25, 2025, 07:18:44 PMNot really, I'm pretty sure he plays a Sirxon ball which I don't think anyone else on the team does. That doesn't work in alternate shot. As Keegan said earlier this week, the ball is one thing we use on every swing, playing with a ball you don't normally use is a huge deal. Makes total sense
And he's not any good
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 25, 2025, 07:25:35 PMAnd he's not any good
Or he's an outstanding player who's eared the right to be there.
Quote from: MuggsyB on September 25, 2025, 07:50:53 PMOr he's an outstanding player who's eared the right to be there.
He's terrible
Captains choose.
Bryson with a solid drive on 1.
Thomas mucked that pitch. Ughhh. Gotta focus.
Bryson's going to have the Greg Jennings this American team.
These greens are crazy soft. Bad decision by Scottie on 1. And Henley fked up his drive.
Quote from: CreightonWarrior on September 26, 2025, 06:36:40 AMBryson's going to have the Greg Jennings this American team.
Huh?
Is it too much to ask for live shots? With 6 people on the course? Completely inexcusable. Very disappointing shot by Morikawa on 1.
Quote from: MuggsyB on September 26, 2025, 06:52:27 AMIs it too much to ask for live shots? With 6 people on the course? Completely inexcusable. Very disappointing shot by Morikawa on 1.
It's too bad America's best golfer is too busy eradicating autism and can't play.
Not good early. Xander, Hemley, Morikawa all need to wake up.
We should be up in all 4 matches. Putting has been abysmal. Smh.
Quote from: MuggsyB on September 26, 2025, 07:14:31 AMNot good early. Xander, Hemley, Morikawa all need to wake up.
If I were running sports in this country, I'd hold the players wives and families hostage and only release them if they win. These guys can't embarrass us on home soil.
Incredible shot by Rahm on 6.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 26, 2025, 07:16:27 AMIf I were running sports in this country, I'd hold the players wives and families hostage and only release them if they win. These guys can't embarrass us on home soil.
Let's just calm down. No one is advocating kidnapping families.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 26, 2025, 07:16:27 AMIf I were running sports in this country, I'd hold the players wives and families hostage and only release them if they win. These guys can't embarrass us on home soil.
I believe this is what they did in the Russian/North Korea version and then Kim Jong-Il went out and set the course record.
Quote from: MuggsyB on September 26, 2025, 07:25:11 AMIncredible shot by Rahm on 6.
pretty anti-American complimenting a euro.
Quote from: CreightonWarrior on September 26, 2025, 07:28:31 AMI believe this is what they did in the Russian/North Korea version and then Kim Jong-Il went out and set the course record.
We're so soft in this country. I bet if we made Brian Kilmeade czar of Sports, we'd get rid of woke in sports and never lose again. Instead, we embarrass ourselves in everything and worse yet, make our dear leader look bad. Very upsetting.
Quote from: CreightonWarrior on September 26, 2025, 07:29:43 AMpretty anti-American complimenting a euro.
People like Muggsy need to go to re-education camps. Rahm is our enemy and we punish our enemies with unrelenting fury in America.
Morikawa/English is a puzzling pairing.
Quote from: MuggsyB on September 26, 2025, 07:34:37 AMMorikawa/English is a puzzling pairing.
Morikawa isn't even a pure blooded American
Fitzpatrick has been stellar. Scottie better figure it out quickly or this match is over.
My goodness. No idea what that was from JT.
Severe probs for team USA. Perfect conditions and they're all over the place. The putting had been down right brutal.
Quote from: MuggsyB on September 26, 2025, 07:46:06 AMSevere probs for team USA. Perfect conditions and they're all over the place. The putting had been down right brutal.
We should have named the president captain. He's won more tournaments than all these clowns combined
Getting completely outplayed. Fleetwood/Mac have been lights out but frankly other than a few moments from Bryson, Team USA has been down right crappy. These are perfect condition and we're playing our D game at best. Very, very, disappointing. We need to swing momentum. I don't expect to see JT or Morikawa until the singles frankly after this morning.
Cantlay can be infuriating. Wow.
Quote from: cheebs09 on September 26, 2025, 08:10:42 AMOh man. Google Greg Jennings Madden immediately.
Muggsy doesn't google. Everything he knows, he learns on scoop
I don't play video games.
It took over a hour for Team USA to win a single hole. That cannot happen.
Quote from: MuggsyB on September 26, 2025, 08:36:57 AMIt took over a hour for Team USA to win a single hole. That cannot happen.
If they got paid more, they'd play better. Or we can be a serious country and punish them severely for embarrassing the troops and President
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Henley has to sit. So does JT and probably Morikawa. Although....no one has been good. Play the 4 guys sitting, Scottie, Bryson, and Xander/Cantlay? Xander/Cantlay has to win the 4th foursome.
NBC's idea to show limited golf coverage for the Ryder Cup is an interesting idea.
Quote from: Dish on September 26, 2025, 08:59:30 AMNBC's idea to show limited golf coverage for the Ryder Cup is an interesting idea.
I have Peacock on and only seeing the first match. Too lazy to check if I selected the wrong option.
Quote from: MuggsyB on September 26, 2025, 08:36:57 AMIt took over a hour for Team USA to win a single hole. That cannot happen.
The good news is the college football slate is loaded tomorrow so you'll have something to watch.
Quote from: cheebs09 on September 26, 2025, 09:03:07 AMI have Peacock on and only seeing the first match. Too lazy to check if I selected the wrong option.
NBC is awful at golf coverage. They actually have some good on-course guys in Bones and John Wood but the rest of that team is tough. Faxon is occasionally pretty good but his gaffes are brutal.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 26, 2025, 09:04:49 AMNBC is awful at golf coverage. They actually have some good on-course guys in Bones and John Wood but the rest of that team is tough. Faxon is occasionally pretty good but his gaffes are brutal.
They are absolutely awful.
Have a good day Scoopers.
Some of these shoe choices. :o :P
Luke Donald struggling with which hot player he has to sit this afternoon. Keegan Bradley struggling with which cold player he has to send out this afternoon. (Thomas, English, Morikawa need to spend some time at the range.)
The Ryder isn't really the competition that it's made out to be. For the last 30 years, it has been one-sided. I don't see that changing soon.
Quote from: Jockey on September 26, 2025, 09:55:42 AMThe Ryder isn't really the competition that it's made out to be. For the last 30 years, it has been one-sided. I don't see that changing soon.
We haven't had a dramatic Sunday since 2012. And that's the only one this century since 2010 finished on a Monday and while that one got close, the Euros had 13 points through 6 singles matches concluding.
Lotta ball game left here, though. Fourball more of an American game
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 26, 2025, 10:01:20 AMWe haven't had a dramatic Sunday since 2012. And that's the only one this century since 2010 finished on a Monday and while that one got close, the Euros had 13 points through 6 singles matches concluding.
Lotta ball game left here, though. Fourball more of an American game
I heard a comment on the telecast that Euros play more alternate shot. Is that true? Is this due to tournaments while growing up?
The US really needs to win this last match. After the disaster of Rome, to not get an American flag on the board in the first session would be pretty demoralizing.
What a bunch of wankers
don't worry, these Euros will have their visas revoked by the end of the day. USA! USA!
Will say, both sides pairings in the afternoon are
Interesting
Nice job by the good guys to take a solid 3-1 lead in the morning, including three routs.
I have to admit, without Poulter and Sergio, the Euro team is pretty likable.
Quote from: cheebs09 on September 26, 2025, 12:42:02 PMI have to admit, without Poulter and Sergio, the Euro team is pretty likable.
What team would you like to have a post round beer with?
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 26, 2025, 12:42:37 PMWhat team would you like to have a post round beer with?
Rory and Lowry would definitely be throwing back pints of Guinness.
Say what you will about Cantlay, but the dude always shows up for this event. He's been the best US player today.
Quote from: Dish on September 26, 2025, 03:35:07 PMSay what you will about Cantlay, but the dude always shows up for this event. He's been the best US player today.
Well, it takes half an hour to play a hole with him, so I get it
Good grief!!!! It looks like the 2nd session was an utter disaster as well. Smh.
Quote from: MuggsyB on September 26, 2025, 05:11:42 PMGood grief!!!! It looks like the 2nd session was an utter disaster as well. Smh.
It went really well, imo
Quote from: Dish on September 26, 2025, 03:35:07 PMSay what you will about Cantlay, but the dude always shows up for this event. He's been the best US player today.
Except on 18. Bunker City!
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 26, 2025, 12:42:37 PMWhat team would you like to have a post round beer with?
The one that's up 5 1/2 to 2 1/2, despite the dipsh!t U.S. fans. Easy to like, easy to root for.
I didn't get to see 1/2 of the morning or any of the afternoon sessions. However, could someone please explain why Bradley would send out English and Morikawa again as well as Henley with Scheffy? Doesn't make a scintilla of sense to me.
Quote from: MuggsyB on September 26, 2025, 06:47:00 PMI didn't get to see 1/2 of the morning or any of the afternoon sessions. However, could someone please explain why Bradley would send out English and Morikawa again as well as Henley with Scheffy? Doesn't make a scintilla of sense to me.
I wonder if the American players were overwhelmed with joy when the president arrived and it hurt their concentration being around such a macho and sexy man?
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 26, 2025, 07:11:51 PMI wonder if the American players were overwhelmed with joy when the president arrived and it hurt their concentration being around such a macho and sexy man?
This is why I discuss focus on a regular basis. I've only been starstruck once in my life.
Quote from: MuggsyB on September 26, 2025, 05:11:42 PMGood grief!!!! It looks like the 2nd session was an utter disaster as well. Smh.
Would have been even worse for your losers if Rory hadn't missed two putts by a total of about a half-inch. The U.S. actually is fortunate to not be down 6-2.
Quote from: MuggsyB on September 26, 2025, 07:31:51 PMThis is why I discuss focus on a regular basis. I've only been starstruck once in my life.
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Quote from: MuggsyB on September 26, 2025, 07:31:51 PMThis is why I discuss focus on a regular basis. I've only been starstruck once in my life.
Plus, they know if the President was playing, he'd win the Ryder Cup by himself. He has like a thousand club championships because of how strong he is
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 26, 2025, 08:12:56 PMPlus, they know if the President was playing, he'd win the Ryder Cup by himself. He has like a thousand club championships because of how strong he is
He's a good golfer for his age. But that's it. You're being off the charts hyperbolic.
Quote from: MuggsyB on September 26, 2025, 08:42:02 PMHe's a good golfer for his age. But that's it. You're being off th4 charts hyperbolic.
Bro's set numerous course records and wins club championships regularly. Good for his age? The guy could easily win a Major if he wasn't busy being the best President in the history of our once great country.
Quote from: wadesworld on September 26, 2025, 08:43:18 PMBro's set numerous course records and wins club championships regularly. Good for his age? The guy could easily win a Major if he wasn't busy being the best President in the history of our once great country.
He's lying here. This is obvious. He may be top 3 among president golfers. I don't know. What we do know is Ford was the best athlete among presidents.
Quote from: MuggsyB on September 26, 2025, 08:48:41 PMHe's lying here. This is obvious. He may be top 3 among president golfers. I don't know. What we do know is Ford was the best athlete among presidents.
He certainly plays enough that he should be at the top of presidents.
Quote from: MuggsyB on September 26, 2025, 08:48:41 PMHe's lying here. This is obvious. He may be top 3 among president golfers. I don't know. What we do know is Ford was the best athlete among presidents.
Ford couldn't pull sweet tail like the current guy and if the current guy wanted to, he could have been Joe Montana
Quote from: MuggsyB on September 25, 2025, 07:50:53 PMOr he's an outstanding player who's eared the right to be there.
#Fetish
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 26, 2025, 08:58:51 PMFord couldn't pull sweet tail like the current guy and if the current guy wanted to, he could have been Joe Montana
Ford played football at Michigan for two national championship teams. That pretty much slams the door on best athlete among US presidents. Trump obviously can talk out of his ass about his abilities. Obama did as well. Neither of them could hoop at all.
Quote from: Jay Bee on September 26, 2025, 09:01:28 PM#Fetish
Stop attacking diminutive citizens. He has a lot of game.
I hope this ages poorly...
Keegan is the most meatball Ryder Cup captain ever. All the pomp & circumstance that goes into the lead up to this event, he didn't just eat it up, he threw kerosene on it. It's his "home" course, he's more emotional than analytical thus far. The Saturday morning foursome pairing of Morikawa/English and Scheffler /Henley again? Why? Spaun is maybe the most ideal foursomes player on the squad, and he won't play foursomes once.
I'll hang up and listen for my answer.
Quote from: Dish on September 26, 2025, 11:54:58 PMI hope this ages poorly...
Keegan is the most meatball Ryder Cup captain ever. All the pomp & circumstance that goes into the lead up to this event, he didn't just eat it up, he threw kerosene on it. It's his "home" course, he's more emotional than analytical thus far. The Saturday morning foursome pairing of Morikawa/English and Scheffler /Henley again? Why? Spaun is maybe the most ideal foursomes player on the squad, and he won't play foursomes once.
I'll hang up and listen for my answer.
Dish,
I don't get it. Bradley says it's "part of the plan" whatever that means. The Morikawa/English pairing in particular is dumbfounding. They were brutal yesterday. Why in the world you pair them together just from a pure statistical standpoint? And you're right, Henley was terrible as well.
That all said, Europe's top 3 has been dominant and we can't win if that continues.
Aberg/Fitz being -8 through 16 played holes hasn't helped us either.
Absolutely horrid approach shot by Bryson on 2. He was set up perfectly. Wake the F up and focus.
Quote from: Dish on September 26, 2025, 11:54:58 PMI hope this ages poorly...
Keegan is the most meatball Ryder Cup captain ever. All the pomp & circumstance that goes into the lead up to this event, he didn't just eat it up, he threw kerosene on it. It's his "home" course, he's more emotional than analytical thus far. The Saturday morning foursome pairing of Morikawa/English and Scheffler /Henley again? Why? Spaun is maybe the most ideal foursomes player on the squad, and he won't play foursomes once.
I'll hang up and listen for my answer.
it's almost as if picking your captain based on feeling bad about them being embarrassed on Netflix isn't a great strategy.
Great opportunity for English. Has to make this even though it's early.
Quote from: MuggsyB on September 26, 2025, 09:03:30 PMFord played football at Michigan for two national championship teams. That pretty much slams the door on best athlete among US presidents. Trump obviously can talk out of his ass about his abilities. Obama did as well. Neither of them could hoop at all.
President Trump would win the dunk contest and 3-point contest easy
Bam! Maybe Keegan is a genius? :)
Quote from: MuggsyB on September 27, 2025, 06:39:36 AMBam! Maybe Keegan is a genius? :)
I'm pretty sure he got advice from POTUS about how to be a great leader
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 27, 2025, 06:39:20 AMPresident Trump would win the dunk contest and 3-point contest easy
You're obsessed and it's unhealthy. Focus on the Ryder Cup, not some 80 yr old with questionable athletic skills.
BOOM! Cam Young!
Quote from: MuggsyB on September 27, 2025, 06:42:14 AMYou're obsessed and it's unhealthy. Focus on the Ryder Cup, not some 80 yr old with questionable athletic skills.
I'm reporting you for dishonor
Not a good slice off the tee by Xander. Total brain fart. Smh.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 27, 2025, 06:46:22 AMI'm reporting you for dishonor
Dishonor? He can't hoop. This is a fact.
Quote from: Dish on September 26, 2025, 11:54:58 PMI hope this ages poorly...
Keegan is the most meatball Ryder Cup captain ever. All the pomp & circumstance that goes into the lead up to this event, he didn't just eat it up, he threw kerosene on it. It's his "home" course, he's more emotional than analytical thus far. The Saturday morning foursome pairing of Morikawa/English and Scheffler /Henley again? Why? Spaun is maybe the most ideal foursomes player on the squad, and he won't play foursomes once.
I'll hang up and listen for my answer.
They got pounded in Rome at least partially due to the way Europe embraced analytics. To basically do the opposite of the analytics so far is malpractice. Golf blogs have access to the analytics.
Bryson has not been good thus far. Has been set up perfectly by Young twice, mucked both approaches. Can't happen. He needs to figure it out immediately.
Quote from: MuggsyB on September 27, 2025, 06:51:45 AMBryson has not been good thus far. Has been set up perfectly by Young twice, mucked both approaches. Can't happen. He needs to figure it out immediately.
He will. He's a great patriot and American who is very loyal.
Good freaking grief. What happened to Xander's putting?
Quote from: MuggsyB on September 27, 2025, 07:08:28 AMGood freaking grief. What happened to Xander's putting?
He's not being paid enough
We should be keenly aware of the tight fairways and greens on this course. The fact that many of our players are over spinning, constantly, is a bit troubling imo.
Fleetwood has been lights out. But there's no way to justify the Morikawa/English pairing, let alone twice. Keegan will be hammered about this after the round. He said "they wanted to go back out there". I'm sorry but that's not a reason. I want to be a combination of Giannis and Steph Curry.
I'm starting to come around to the idea Keegan saw the fleetwood Rory pairing and punted the matchup.
Quote from: CreightonWarrior on September 27, 2025, 07:59:36 AMI'm starting to come around to the idea Keegan saw the fleetwood Rory pairing and punted the matchup.
4 down through 8.....wow.
I get sitting JT. I didn't see Spaun or Burns play yesterday but they have been good putters, especially Burns. Neither of them being used at all in Foursomes is a mystery to me.
Griffin has good putting stats too. I guess I was wrong about Spaun, but he seems to make clutch putts.
Omg. Rahm with a ridiculous shot.
Every American that isn't Bryson must be shot like dogs
I don't trust anyone that doesn't love dogs.
We can't make any putts. It's absurd. These greens are not difficult at all.
Quote from: CreightonWarrior on September 27, 2025, 07:59:36 AMI'm starting to come around to the idea Keegan saw the fleetwood Rory pairing and punted the matchup.
I'm not sure you can be punting points down 3.
Scheffy has to find a way to win that Final match with Henley or it's pretty much over.
Not sure Scottie needed to try and match Tiger's legacy in Ryder Cup too.
Morikawa and Xander's putting has quite frankly been an unmitigated disaster. Absolutely killing us!
Wrong club choice for Henley on 14. Simply can't happen.
Guys just aren't getting it done. Tremendous opportunities all morning.
Stunning conplete gag on 18 by Scheffy. This has been beyond BRUTAL.
"Hey guys, I know it didn't work out well at all in foursomes yesterday. Let's run it out there again though!"
The best thing I saw on Twitter was someone saying Keegan looks like a chain restaurant manager working a Friday night with an understaffed crew.
Quote from: Dish on September 27, 2025, 11:09:53 AM"Hey guys, I know it didn't work out well at all in foursomes yesterday. Let's run it out there again though!"
The best thing I saw on Twitter was someone saying Keegan looks like a chain restaurant manager working a Friday night with an understaffed crew.
I think that's fair. Now, it's not all his fault. Other than Young, none of our guys have played well. But there is honestly no explanation for several of his decisions.
The scary thing is Rahm, Fleetwood, and Rory aren't going anywhere. Aberg is an up and comer. Where do we go from here? Especially with Morikawa/Xander hemorrhaging game wise?
Quote from: MuggsyB on September 27, 2025, 07:41:41 AMWe should be keenly aware of the tight fairways and greens on this course. The fact that many of our players are over spinning, constantly, is a bit troubling imo.
Do you not realize that Keegan produced the course conditions as the home team captain.
There are no tight fairways except for 18. Keegan increased the fairway widths a lot and reduced the primary rough. Bethpage's greens are mostly flat, therefore making the tournament a putting contest, which it has been. During yesterday's afternoon matches, the US missed 9 putts within 10 feet for either a win or a tie. All on the back 9.
Keegan going to get slaughtered with his pairings, especially Harris/Morikowa today, no Spann or Burns this morning, etc. They have to sweep this afternoon to do it, but again no tight fairways. Enjoy pm matches.
Quote from: nyg on September 27, 2025, 11:36:04 AMDo you not realize that Keegan produced the course conditions as the home team captain.
There are no tight fairways except for 18. Keegan increased the fairway widths a lot and reduced the primary rough. Bethpage's greens are mostly flat, therefore making the tournament a putting contest, which it has been. During yesterday's afternoon matches, the US missed 9 putts within 10 feet for either a win or a tie. All on the back 9.
Keegan going to get slaughtered with his pairings, especially Harris/Morikowa today, no Spann or Burns this morning, etc. They have to sweep this afternoon to do it, but again no tight fairways. Enjoy pm matches.
The commentators said that the fairways were tight. Maybe that was just one hole. Why have we been over spinning approach shots with mostly flat and soft greens? Ty.
Quote from: MuggsyB on September 27, 2025, 11:48:49 AMThe commentators said that the fairways were tight. Maybe that was just one hole. Why have we been over spinning approach shots with mostly flat and soft greens? Ty.
Shoot every American player like dogs except Bryson
Quote from: MuggsyB on September 27, 2025, 10:53:35 AMStunning conplete gag on 18 by Scheffy. This has been beyond BRUTAL.
Come on now. It's difficult to hit a wedge when you've got both hands wrapped around your throat.
Quote from: MuggsyB on September 27, 2025, 09:02:50 AMWe can't make any putts.
WE made lots of putts - right in the faces of all the boorish dipsh!ts so cleverly counting. Especially nice work by Hovland down the stretch.
Quote from: MU82 on September 27, 2025, 11:58:58 AMCome on now. It's difficult to hit a wedge when you've got both hands wrapped around your throat.
WE made lots of putts - right in the faces of all the boorish dipsh!ts so cleverly counting. Especially nice work by Hovland down the stretch.
Most of these Euros live primarily in the USA.
Quote from: MuggsyB on September 27, 2025, 12:02:28 PMMost of these Euros live primarily in the USA.
Exactly. WE.
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Quote from: MU82 on September 27, 2025, 12:09:54 PMExactly. WE.
[/Quote from: MU82 on September 27, 2025, 12:09:54 PMExactly. WE.
McIntyre is the only one who lives primarily in his native country.
Quote from: MuggsyB on September 27, 2025, 12:13:57 PMThere's o
McIntyre is the only one who lives primarily in his native country.
Quote from: MuggsyB on September 27, 2025, 12:13:57 PMThere's o
McIntyre is the only one who lives primarily in his native country.
No, he lives in Jupiter full time.
Again, putting. Cam Young just missed 7 footer for win.
Maybe it's me but Bethpage with the changes isn't playing like a championship or Ryder Cup course.
Quote from: nyg on September 27, 2025, 12:16:51 PMNo, he lives in Jupiter full time.
Again, putting. Cam Young just missed 7 footer for win.
Oh...really? My mistake.
Another missed putt. And Burns is a great putter. Very upsetting.
These are better pairings by Keegan. That was some shot (and follow through) by Bryson.
Quote from: Spaniel with a Short Tail on September 27, 2025, 12:44:15 PMThese are better pairings by Keegan. That was some shot (and follow through) by Bryson.
-5 through 5.
And they're only one up.
Sounds like some of the patrons have had a few or a 12-pack.
Well, that's an awful break for Scottie.
Can we get tower on the US team
Quote from: MuggsyB on September 27, 2025, 01:02:23 PMSounds like some of the patrons have had a few or a 12-pack.
Good to know at least some Americans brought their 'A' games.
Quote from: BM1090 on September 27, 2025, 02:36:01 PMCan we get tower on the US team
Tower doesn't even care enough to watch.
(Written from a deck overlooking Little Traverse Bay with my feet up)
Americans should really consider doing what Europeans are doing and make a putt outside of 3 feet.
Even with how easy the course is playing, what Rose and Fleetwood are doing is seriously ridiculous. -11 through 14???
-12 through 15.
Whoa....slight overreaction by Bryson. Jeesh.
I feel like Zach Johnson is at home and enjoying a nice glass of milk knowing he may no longer be the worst Ryder Cup captain.
The American team is a bunch of front running Jessie's. They exemplify the rot of this nation. Soft. Country club kids that need things easy without a lot of obstacles.
Quote from: cheebs09 on September 27, 2025, 04:34:43 PMI feel like Zach Johnson is at home and enjoying a nice glass of milk knowing he may no longer be the worst Ryder Cup captain.
even though this is all his fault
US were huge underdogs and lived up to it. I don't know a single person who thought they would win.
Quote from: Jockey on September 27, 2025, 04:41:48 PMUS were huge underdogs and lived up to it. I don't know a single person who thought they would win.
They're a bunch of losers. They represent the elite of the country.
Spaun has been excellent on the back 9.
Quote from: MuggsyB on September 27, 2025, 05:17:50 PMSpaun has been excellent on the back 9.
And he's barely an American.
No group of individuals better represents modern America than this Ryder Cup team. No notes. Losers. The lot of them. 47 loving losers.
If you thought the Noeth Korean soccer team had it rough in after the 2010 World Cup just wait until Dear Leader gets done with Keegan, Bryson, and Scottie.
It's amazing. If Zach Johnson wasn't such an idiot Keegan's legacy wouldn't be getting destroyed this weekend, granted he's done himself no favors.
Many of you look ridiculous attacking and rooting against our country. And basically all of the Euro players have their primary residence in the United States. They're as a rule not less "spoiled" than the American players. And guess what? Spaun was not a spoiled country club kid at all. If you root against that guy you have severe bias towards the USA and terrible hatred in your hearts. Not to mention EDCP. Extreme Diminutive Citizen Prejudice.
It's fine that you hate the President of the United States. I loathe a lot of politicians. Don't take your hatred out on our country. Do you root against Sydney McLaughlin Levronne as well? Get a grip.
Quote from: MuggsyB on September 27, 2025, 06:02:33 PMMany of you look ridiculous attacking and rooting against our country. And basically all of the Euro players have their primary residence in the United States. They're as a rule not less "spoiled" than the American players. And guess what? Spaun was not a spoiled country club kid at all. If you root against that guy you have severe bias towards the USA and terrible hatred in your hearts. Not to mention EDCP. Extreme Diminutive Citizen Prejudice.
It's fine that you hate the President of the United States. I loathe a lot of politicians. Don't take your hatred out on our country. Do you root against Sydney McLaughlin Levronne as well? Get a grip.
Rooting against a bunch of golfers does not mean one is "rooting against our country." Stop being so jingoistic.
Quote from: MuggsyB on September 27, 2025, 06:02:33 PMMany of you look ridiculous attacking and rooting against our country. And basically all of the Euro players have their primary residence in the United States. They're as a rule not less "spoiled" than the American players. And guess what? Spaun was not a spoiled country club kid at all. If you root against that guy you have severe bias towards the USA and terrible hatred in your hearts. Not to mention EDCP. Extreme Diminutive Citizen Prejudice.
It's fine that you hate the President of the United States. I loathe a lot of politicians. Don't take your hatred out on our country. Do you root against Sydney McLaughlin Levronne as well? Get a grip.
Every single one of these American golfers would join ICE if they could. It's fantastic watching these money-grubbing fake patriots get their tails kicked.
Also, Muggsy loves facists
Quote from: The Sultan on September 27, 2025, 06:09:41 PMRooting against a bunch of golfers does not mean one is "rooting against our country." Stop being so jingoistic.
Okay, Mao. If you think this world will be better, once we collapse as a country, think again.
Quote from: MuggsyB on September 27, 2025, 06:16:30 PMOkay, Mao. If you think this world will be better, once we collapse as a country, think again.
The good news is that if the country does actually collapse, these soft-a$$ golfers will be the first to go.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 27, 2025, 06:12:20 PMEvery single one of these American golfers would join ICE if they could. It's fantastic watching these money-grubbing fake patriots get their tails kicked.
Also, Muggsy loves facists
Right. Anyone who didn't vote for Biden, I mean Harris, is a fascist. That's a reality compelling argument and great for the polarization of our county.
Quote from: The Sultan on September 27, 2025, 06:17:55 PMThe good news is that if the country does actually collapse, these soft-a$$ golfers will be the first to go.
Hallelujah. A bunch of right wing losers
It's also a a total embarrassment that you make everything political.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 27, 2025, 06:19:12 PMHallelujah. A bunch of right wing losers
They'd be cryin' five minutes after the power goes out.
Quote from: MuggsyB on September 27, 2025, 06:18:45 PMRight. Anyone who didn't vote for Biden, I mean Harris, is a fascist. That's a reality compelling argument and great for the polarization of our county.
The compelling argument I see is, all 12 of these clowns are soft losers who want poor people to suffer. But at least they're getting checks this week to represent the flag. Great patriots, the lot of them.
Quote from: The Sultan on September 27, 2025, 06:20:20 PMThey'd be cryin' five minutes after the power goes out.
Bryson and Scottie think hard times are waiting an extra second for their coffees.
If the fate of this country rested on any of these dudes making a clutch putt we'd be eff'd.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 27, 2025, 06:22:01 PMBryson and Scottie think hard times are waiting an extra second for their coffees.
this is patently false. Scottie has seen some things. He still keeps his shank in his bag to stay humble.
Quote from: CreightonWarrior on September 27, 2025, 06:22:48 PMIf the fate of this country rested on any of these dudes making a clutch putt we'd be eff'd.
They were not good to put it mildly. And these are not difficult greens.
Quote from: CreightonWarrior on September 27, 2025, 06:22:48 PMIf the fate of this country rested on any of these dudes making a clutch putt we'd be eff'd.
They're softer than Gin Diesel. Losers, the lot of them.
Quote from: MuggsyB on September 27, 2025, 06:02:33 PMMany of you look ridiculous attacking and rooting against our country. And basically all of the Euro players have their primary residence in the United States. They're as a rule not less "spoiled" than the American players. And guess what? Spaun was not a spoiled country club kid at all. If you root against that guy you have severe bias towards the USA and terrible hatred in your hearts. Not to mention EDCP. Extreme Diminutive Citizen Prejudice.
It's fine that you hate the President of the United States. I loathe a lot of politicians. Don't take your hatred out on our country. Do you root against Sydney McLaughlin Levronne as well? Get a grip.
Simpleminded.
Quote from: Jockey on September 27, 2025, 06:26:47 PMSimpleminded.
Muggsy thinks we should cheer for these clowns who just want tax breaks
Quote from: CreightonWarrior on September 27, 2025, 06:23:41 PMthis is patently false. Scottie has seen some things. He still keeps his shank in his bag to stay humble.
Unlike Bryson, I do believe Scottie would give a nickel to a poor person
American golf fans are simply embarrassing. Hearing the stories tonight is just disgusting. We simply embarrass ourselves everytime we can on the world stage.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 27, 2025, 06:40:17 PMAmerican golf fans are simply embarrassing. Hearing the stories tonight is just disgusting. We simply embarrass ourselves everytime we can on the world stage.
Yup. I told my wife that I wasn't sure who was more embarrassing - the dipsh!t American fans or the NBC announcing crew.
Muggs believing that rooting for class acts like Rory and Rose makes one less American is also pretty embarrassing.
Quote from: MU82 on September 27, 2025, 07:03:16 PMYup. I told my wife that I wasn't sure who was more embarrassing - the dipsh!t American fans or the NBC announcing crew.
Muggs believing that rooting for class acts like Rory and Rose makes one less American is also pretty embarrassing.
America is an embarrassment right now and this Ryder Cup team captures it quite well.
The Euros were nothing short of sensational. Great shot-making, putting, teamwork and, mostly, focus.
Anyone who likes witnessing excellence in competition has to appreciate what they've done in this tournament.
Quote from: tower912 on September 02, 2025, 07:30:28 PMI like Keegan. Big East! I just think Europe romps.
Double bump
Thanks to the US delusion betters that enabled me to cover my other losses this weekend with a simple beton the Europeans.
Really UCF? Not able to score 21 points against one of the worst defenses in the nation?????
Is it too late to introduce the euro hotel to darkness?
Quote from: tower912 on September 27, 2025, 07:33:42 PMDouble bump
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F the US team.
F the US crowd.
F Keegan Bradley. I couldn't think of a worse loser if I tried.
Quote from: MuggsyB on September 27, 2025, 06:18:45 PMRight. Anyone who didn't vote for Biden, I mean Harris, is a fascist. That's a reality compelling argument and great for the polarization of our county.
Not anyone who didn't vote for her. But anyone who is anything other than staunchly against the current admin now is either a fascist or woefully undereducated.
Quote from: Jockey on September 27, 2025, 10:12:05 PMF the US team.
F the US crowd.
F Keegan Bradley. I couldn't think of a worse loser if I tried.
F the Mets.
MuggsyB is one of my favorite posters and seems like a decent guy. He's just a little naive politically.
From what I read, the predominant chant against the euros is "eff you Rory." Man, what a lame crowd. Talk about embarrassing your country.
The last hole from the last match yesterday perfectly sums up this Ryder Cup.
Quote from: Spaniel with a Short Tail on September 28, 2025, 08:10:41 AMFrom what I read, the predominant chant against the euros is "eff you Rory." Man, what a lame crowd. Talk about embarrassing your country.
The last hole from the last match yesterday perfectly sums up this Ryder Cup.
Boors and bores.
Quote from: CreightonWarrior on September 27, 2025, 09:19:07 PMIs it too late to introduce the euro hotel to darkness?
BY GAWD THAT'S FIGJAM'S MUSIC!! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeZ-KTx3Mts)
Quote from: MUBurrow on September 28, 2025, 08:33:15 AMBY GAWD THAT'S FIGJAM'S MUSIC!! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeZ-KTx3Mts)
Jim Ross tribute. Nice.
Quote from: Spaniel with a Short Tail on September 28, 2025, 08:10:41 AMFrom what I read, the predominant chant against the euros is "eff you Rory." Man, what a lame crowd. Talk about embarrassing your country.
The last hole from the last match yesterday perfectly sums up this Ryder Cup.
I mean, it's New York. Not a crowd known for its wit and creativity.
Quote from: Spaniel with a Short Tail on September 28, 2025, 08:10:41 AMFrom what I read, the predominant chant against the euros is "eff you Rory." Man, what a lame crowd. Talk about embarrassing your country.
And the first tee MC participated in it!
Quote from: MuggsyB on September 27, 2025, 06:18:45 PMRight. Anyone who didn't vote for Biden, I mean Harris, is a fascist. That's a reality compelling argument and great for the polarization of our county.
Nope, but the content of your posts on numerous socio-political issues very clearly identifies you as a fascist in my opinion. And it is just flat-out laughable that you deem yourself qualified to lecture about polarization. ;D ;D
Quote from: The Sultan on September 28, 2025, 09:06:21 AMAnd the first tee MC participated in it!
Former first tee MC*
Keegan Bradley stated in his presser yesterday that he didn't know the protocol if a player was injured??? And he seemed upset about this?? I don't know if Hovland is playing, but how on God's Green Earth could Keegan not know the rules??? This alone should result in never captaining a RC Team again.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on September 28, 2025, 09:31:59 AMNope, but the content of your posts on numerous socio-political issues very clearly identifies you as a fascist in my opinion. And it is just flat-out laughable that you deem yourself qualified to lecture about polarization. ;D ;D
Lecturing? Please. And I only give about 1/10 of my geopolitical and domestic strategies that would be infinitely better for world peace.
Quote from: MuggsyB on September 28, 2025, 10:05:44 AMLecturing? Please. And I only give about 1/10 of my geopolitical and domestic strategies that would infinitely be better for world peace.
Thank God! ;D ;D
Quote from: MuggsyB on September 28, 2025, 10:05:44 AMLecturing? Please. And I only give about 1/10 of my geopolitical and domestic strategies that would be infinitely better for world peace.
Yeah we aren't terribly impressed by the 10% you do share.
Quote from: The Sultan on September 28, 2025, 10:19:19 AMYeah we aren't terribly impressed by the 10% you do share.
I'm not trying to impress you at all. It's about solving problems.
Quote from: MuggsyB on September 28, 2025, 10:20:56 AMI'm not trying to impress you at all.
You've succeeded.
Popular sports personality weighs in -
https://x.com/njtank99/status/1972080917910114406?s=46
Quote from: The Sultan on September 28, 2025, 10:30:45 AMYou've succeeded.
Clearly I haven't because you constantly reply to my posts.
Quote from: MuggsyB on September 28, 2025, 10:42:53 AMClearly I haven't because you constantly reply to my posts.
To mock you.
Quote from: MuggsyB on September 28, 2025, 10:03:32 AMKeegan Bradley stated in his presser yesterday that he didn't know the protocol if a player was injured??? And he seemed upset about this?? I don't know if Hovland is playing, but how on God's Green Earth could Keegan not know the rules??? This alone should result in never captaining a RC Team again.
I do think that rule needs tweaking. Injuries shouldn't take points off the board that would otherwise be available. The captain of the non-injured player's side should have the option to select a match that is worth two points.
reportedly the crowd will be very pro-Euro today as US fans are selling off their tickets to Euro fans who have made the trip over. ICE will be dispersed to Bethpage Black by 3 pm today.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on September 28, 2025, 12:01:15 PMreportedly the crowd will be very pro-Euro today as US fans are selling off their tickets to Euro fans who have made the trip over. ICE will be dispersed to Bethpage Black by 3 pm today.
Not surprised.
American sports fans are front runners, just like American golfers
https://www.thefriedegg.com/articles/2025-ryder-cup-bethpage-crowd-saturday
Quote from: Spaniel with a Short Tail on September 28, 2025, 08:10:41 AMFrom what I read, the predominant chant against the euros is "eff you Rory." Man, what a lame crowd. Talk about embarrassing your country.
The last hole from the last match yesterday perfectly sums up this Ryder Cup.
one would expect much better behaviour from the people who elected George Santos as their Congressional representative.
Too bad Scheffler couldn't get the half point in the Hovland match to help salvage his Ryder Cup.
Quote from: Mutaman on September 28, 2025, 12:51:20 AMMuggsyB is one of my favorite posters and seems like a decent guy. He's just a little naive politically.
I agree he seems like a decent guy, which makes his lack of education around history and fascism even more frustrating.
Anyways. The US sucks at golf.
Props to Cameron Young.
The greens are playing completely different today. Significantly faster. B
WTH was that ftom Scheffy???? Way short with that 8i. Fk.
Too little too late, but 2 clutch putts on 18 from Young and Thomas.
Not a good decision going high on 18 from Bryson.
The closeness of this really makes Bradley's pairing choices infuriating.
Quote from: cheebs09 on September 28, 2025, 03:43:06 PMThe closeness of this really makes Bradley's pairing choices infuriating.
All about making putts.
Also highlights how stupid it is to give a guy a half point for being hurt.
I can't believe Henley left that short.
How do you leave that putt short!?! (No offense Muggsy)
Gutsy effort by the Americans but the better representatives of the game retain the cup
Quote from: Spaniel with a Short Tail on September 28, 2025, 04:17:01 PMHow do you leave that putt short!?! (No offense Muggsy)
Not offended, I'm just completely dumbfounded. Wow.
Lowry's reaction sums up why they are so good at this. They live for this thing and their teammates. Ole, ole, ole, ole!
I'd throw a few back with Lowry.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 28, 2025, 04:20:59 PMLowry's reaction sums up why they are so good at this. They live for this thing and their teammates. Ole, ole, ole, ole!
That celebration was so fun to watch. Glad the good guys won.
Quote from: MU82 on September 28, 2025, 04:54:28 PMThat celebration was so fun to watch. Glad the good guys won.
Give the Americans credit for making some drama but the good guys won
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 28, 2025, 04:56:54 PMGive the Americans credit for making some drama
Banner time!
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2025/sep/28/usa-fans-ryder-cup-rory-mcilroy
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 28, 2025, 04:56:54 PMGive the Americans credit for making some drama
We've been elite at this lately.
Good news, we'll get our revenge on these fuzzy foreigners at next year's World Cup.
Quote from: Pakuni on September 28, 2025, 05:37:31 PMWe've been elite at this lately.
Good news, we'll get our revenge on these fuzzy foreigners at next year's World Cup.
It won't be hard when every other country's team is denied visas to enter the US.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 28, 2025, 05:08:45 PMhttps://www.theguardian.com/sport/2025/sep/28/usa-fans-ryder-cup-rory-mcilroy
Great read about the coarsening of America. This resonates:
But treating Bethpage as a one-off misses the larger point. What happened here didn't invent the tone of American life so much as reflect what's been an incremental breakdown in public behavior. The country now lives in all-caps, from school-board meetings that sound like street rallies and comment sections that have spilled into the street. The algorithm bankrolls outrage, the put-down is political vernacular and the culture applauds "saying the quiet part out loud". In 2025 you can say almost anything in public and be cheered for it (unless you're Jimmy Kimmel). ... Some might argue golf, in the US particularly, has always been a sport for white conservatives, but it's hard to remember galleries calling opposing players "faggots" and openly deriding their wives until recently. What could have changed?
Quote from: MU82 on September 28, 2025, 05:43:01 PMGreat read about the coarsening of America. This resonates:
But treating Bethpage as a one-off misses the larger point. What happened here didn't invent the tone of American life so much as reflect what's been an incremental breakdown in public behavior. The country now lives in all-caps, from school-board meetings that sound like street rallies and comment sections that have spilled into the street. The algorithm bankrolls outrage, the put-down is political vernacular and the culture applauds "saying the quiet part out loud". In 2025 you can say almost anything in public and be cheered for it (unless you're Jimmy Kimmel). ... Some might argue golf, in the US particularly, has always been a sport for white conservatives, but it's hard to remember galleries calling opposing players "faggots" and openly deriding their wives until recently. What could have changed?
American fans showed themselves to be a perfect encapsulation of modern America. Loud, ignorant and proud of it
https://www.si.com/golf/2025-ryder-cup-grades-report-card-every-player-bethpage-black
Quote from: Spaniel with a Short Tail on September 28, 2025, 08:26:42 PMhttps://www.si.com/golf/2025-ryder-cup-grades-report-card-every-player-bethpage-black
Spaun was ridiculed unfairly by a Scooper.
Quote from: MuggsyB on September 28, 2025, 08:54:01 PMSpaun was ridiculed unfairly by a Scooper.
A lot of golfers were treated unfairly over the weekend. Mostly European golfers by bigoted imbeciles.
Quote from: MU82 on September 29, 2025, 12:19:39 AMA lot of golfers were treated unfairly over the weekend. Mostly European golfers by bigoted imbeciles.
Besides the good guys winning, the thing that will be remembered most about this weekend is the disgraceful behavior of the American fans and the people that were unbothered by it. It was a very telling weekend beyond golf.
Bryson celebrated as if he had accomplished something.
If he hadn't fallen hopelessly behind in his match, he might have actually accomplished something by the end of it. Instead, he celebrated an effen tie as if he had just won the Masters, when in fact all he had done was cost his team half a point with his horrendous early play.
But hey, at least he won 1 of his 4 matches on Fri and Sat ... meaning that of 5 possible points, he brought home 1.5.
Yay, Bryson!
Quote from: MU82 on September 29, 2025, 10:22:06 AMBryson celebrated as if he had accomplished something.
If he hadn't fallen hopelessly behind in his match, he might have actually accomplished something by the end of it. Instead, he celebrated an effen tie as if he had just won the Masters, when in fact all he had done was cost his team half a point with his horrendous early play.
But hey, at least he won 1 of his 4 matches on Fri and Sat ... meaning that of 10 possible points, he brought home 3.
Yay, Bryson!
To be nitpicky, he got 1.5 out of 5.
Quote from: cheebs09 on September 29, 2025, 10:51:14 AMTo be nitpicky, he got 1.5 out of 5.
Of course you are right. Correction made. Point still stands.
Quote from: MU82 on September 29, 2025, 11:11:43 AMOf course you are right. Correction made. Point still stands.
Good week for Bryson. He got paid. He exposed his brand to more people to grow the Bryson brand, his biggest goal of the weekend.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 29, 2025, 12:05:00 PMGood week for Bryson. He got paid. He exposed his brand to more people to grow the Bryson brand, his biggest goal of the weekend.
Also got an imperial fist bump to promote on his socials.
as if we couldn't like the Euro team more!
https://x.com/WUTangKids/status/1972490567344066699
and some awesome responses, including this one:
"US can still win the Cup if the electoral college does the right thing."
More grades.
https://golf.com/news/ryder-cup-grades-players-captains-fans-bethpage/
Keegan getting Team USA.
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Tom Watson on the former Twits:
"I'd like to congratulate @RyderCupEurope on their victory. Your team play the first few days was sensational. More importantly, I'd like to apologize for the rude and mean-spirited behavior from our American crowd at Bethpage. As a former player, Captain and as an American, I am ashamed of what happened."
Quote from: Spaniel with a Short Tail on September 29, 2025, 01:57:51 PMMore grades.
https://golf.com/news/ryder-cup-grades-players-captains-fans-bethpage/
Keegan getting Team USA.
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It is interesting to see venue setup be ripped across the board.
At Hazletine and Whistling Straits, the setup was benign like this week and worst yet, with super easy pin placements on Sunday at both.
I'm not sure I understand the call for toughening it up when American players have gone into the fetal position playing tougher setups in Europe (narrow fairways, holes with driver taken out of their hands).
The argument has been America's best hit it long and they'd have an advantage out of the rough but that also plays into Rory and Rahm's hand and they dominated anyway.
Bethpage is supposed to be hard and I guess they neutered it but I don't think they were wrong in doing so. I just think the Euros knew it was coming and paired their players the best way they could to take advantage of it. If they had set it up to US Open standards, I just don't see any advantage being gained by a home team that is usually the loudest in complaining about USGA setups
Justin Rose.....'the badge and the boys'....
A couple of final Ryder Cup points:
1) The course set up was stupid and a major error.
2) Going out both sessions with Foursomes in lieu of 4-Ball was another mistake.
3) Sending out Morikawa/English once, let alone twice, was moronic.
4) The fan behavior among some was totally inexcusable.
Lastly, this "paying" only US players narrative is actually patently false. I didn't know that until this morning. The Euro players are getting paid because the money goes into their purses on their Tour. So while I do like Luke Donald, he was being magnanimous with his comments before the tournament.
Quote from: MuggsyB on September 29, 2025, 07:32:18 PMA couple of final Ryder Cup points:
1) The course set up was stupid and a major error.
2) Going out both sessions with Foursomes in lieu of 4-Ball was another mistake.
3) Sending out Morikawa/English once, let alone twice, was moronic.
4) The fan behavior among some was totally inexcusable.
Lastly, this "paying" only US players narrative is actually patently false. I didn't know that until this morning. The Euro players are getting paid because the money goes into their purses on their Tour. So while I do like Luke Donald, he was being magnanimous with his comments before the tournament.
1. Americans are largely stupid and proud of it, so that matches.
2. See point 1.
3. See point 1.
4. The European Tour has been largely funded by the Ryder Cup for decades. This has been widely known by people that follow golf. American golfers care about money before country. They represent this nation quite well.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 29, 2025, 07:43:54 PM1. Americans are largely stupid and proud of it, so that matches.
2. See point 1.
3. See point 1.
4. The European Tour has been largely funded by the Ryder Cup for decades. This has been widely known by people that follow golf. American golfers care about money before country. They represent this nation quite well.
You realize that most of the Euros live in the United States? At least 1/2 of them also went to college and owe their success to their coaches and pros in the United States. These are multi, multi, millionaires that coukd live anywhere in the world but they choose the United States. And if the Ryder Cup is what funds their Tour? That reiterates all of my points.
Quote from: MuggsyB on September 29, 2025, 08:12:09 PMYou realize that most of the Euros live in the United States? At least 1/2 of them also went to college and owe their success to their coaches and pros in the United States. These are multi, multi, millionaires that coukd live anywhere in the world but they choose the United States. And if the Ryder Cup is what funds their Tour? That reiterates all of my points.
Do you think Tiger Woods "owed his success" to the Stanford coach?
Why can't you just be glad the better team of better guys won the Ryder Cup?
Quote from: MuggsyB on September 29, 2025, 08:12:09 PMYou realize that most of the Euros live in the United States? At least 1/2 of them also went to college and owe their success to their coaches and pros in the United States. These are multi, multi, millionaires that coukd live anywhere in the world but they choose the United States. And if the Ryder Cup is what funds their Tour? That reiterates all of my points.
The European players are true gentleman who play for one another and respect the game of golf.
The American players are true capitalists who play for greed and individual glory and could care less about the game of golf.
The two bodies that run the Ryder Cup are the PGA of America and The European Tour. Has been that way forever. Of course the European Tour makes money on it. They freaking run it.
Of course, it's why the PGA Tour created the President's Cup, so the whiny American players could have a team event they can stuff their pockets with the money it makes.
Thank God for Team Europe, true sporting heroes.
Quote from: MU82 on September 29, 2025, 08:22:06 PMDo you think Tiger Woods "owed his success" to the Stanford coach?
Why can't you just be glad the better team of better guys won the Ryder Cup?
I don't know for sure that they're better guys. Lowry, Fleetwood, and Rose? They're good dudes. Scheffy, Spaun, and Young? They're good dudes. I suppose we can do some thorough research on the rest of the players.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 29, 2025, 08:24:33 PMThe European players are true gentleman who play for one another and respect the game of golf.
The American players are true capitalists who play for greed and individual glory and could care less about the game of golf.
The two bodies that run the Ryder Cup are the PGA of America and The European Tour. Has been that way forever. Of course the European Tour makes money on it. They freaking run it.
Of course, it's why the PGA Tour created the President's Cup, so the whiny American players could have a team event they can stuff their pockets with the money it makes.
Thank God for Team Europe, true sporting heroes.
Team Europe is essentially American. They have no interest in living in Europe at all.
Quote from: MuggsyB on September 29, 2025, 08:29:12 PMTeam Europe is essentially American. They have no interest in living in Europe at all.
Rory and Shane moved back. Wisely. Team Europe outclassed the American team because they're respectful of the game and their teammates unlike the Americans who are front runners looking for their next fat check.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 29, 2025, 08:31:22 PMRory and Shane moved back. Wisely. Team Europe outclassed the American team because they're respectful of the game and their teammates unlike the Americans who are front runners looking for their next fat check.
Perhaps you are over generalizing.
Quote from: MuggsyB on September 29, 2025, 08:33:59 PMPerhaps you are over generalizing.
For 25 years, American golfers have whined about money while the European team has been focused on representing their teammates and the game of golf.
The good guys won Sunday, a victory over greed, avarice, sloth and narcissism
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 29, 2025, 08:36:33 PMFor 25 years, American golfers have whined about money while the European team has been focused on representing their teammates and the game of golf.
The good guys won Sunday, a victory over greed, avarice, sloth and narcissism
Sloth is an unfair term to another tremendous member of the animal kingdom. It's a false characterization that sloths are lazy.
Reading accounts of the behavior of the American mobs has guaranteed I will be rooting for Europe for at least the next two Ryder Cups. Just like I do with posters on this site, I will judge the fans with the same energy they brought to the players.
Clearly, the Ryder Cup shouldn't be near NYC.
Quote from: MuggsyB on September 29, 2025, 08:29:12 PMTeam Europe is essentially American. They have no interest in living in Europe at all.
Speaking of over-generalizations.
Sepp, Ludvig and Viktor are the only players living in the US.
Joe Biden never lost a home Ryder Cup, just saying.
Quote from: 🏀 on September 30, 2025, 09:38:18 AMSpeaking of over-generalizations.
Sepp, Ludvig and Viktor are the only players living in the US.
And regardless, they don't suddenly stop being European because they live here.
Quote from: 🏀 on September 30, 2025, 09:38:18 AMSpeaking of over-generalizations.
Sepp, Ludvig and Viktor are the only players living in the US.
Muggsy isn't a believer in facts
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 30, 2025, 09:52:09 AMMuggsy isn't a believer in facts
He is a believer in alternative facts.
Quote from: 🏀 on September 30, 2025, 09:38:18 AMSepp, Ludvig and Viktor are the only players living in the US.
ICE already has been alerted.
Quote from: MU82 on September 30, 2025, 10:26:28 AMICE already has been alerted.
Good! Next stop- El Salvador. That's what these foreigners deserve for embarrassing the USA in our country.
Phil Mickelson thinks Lou Holtz is the key to future Ryder Cup success.
https://x.com/PhilMickelson/status/1973051607966527580
Quote from: The Sultan on September 30, 2025, 12:12:02 PMPhil Mickelson thinks Lou Holtz is the key to future Ryder Cup success.
https://x.com/PhilMickelson/status/1973051607966527580
Phil Mickelson is an idiot
Quote from: MU82 on September 29, 2025, 02:18:11 PMTom Watson on the former Twits:
"I'd like to congratulate @RyderCupEurope on their victory. Your team play the first few days was sensational. More importantly, I'd like to apologize for the rude and mean-spirited behavior from our American crowd at Bethpage. As a former player, Captain and as an American, I am ashamed of what happened."
My favorite golfer of all time, maybe a bit much here, but still my favorite.
Loved Rory's answer to how it felt sticking the iron after telling the fan to stfu. Might have liked Fleetwood's response to Rory even more. Good stuff from the Euros.
Well, I can't say Phil's judgement has been shown to be good, but he seems always willing to take a gamble.
Lou Holtz hasn't even won an SEC championship. I say we go big and go after Saban. Also, you at least have to call Billy Donovan.
Quote from: cheebs09 on September 30, 2025, 12:59:34 PMWell, I can't say Phil's judgement has been shown to be good, but he seems always willing to take a gamble.
Lou Holtz hasn't even won an SEC championship. I say we go big and go after Saban. Also, you at least have to call Billy Donovan.
One of the better posts Scoop has seen since the dentists formed their own forum.
Wardle 2 Team USA
Well, Lou Holtz did a heck of a job managing pros in the NFL.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 30, 2025, 12:20:47 PMPhil Mickelson is an idiot
I'm glad Phil is offering his take.
It is a good reminder that it was Phil and his generation that started US Ryder Cup malaise. His opinion is very valuable.
Quote from: tower912 on September 30, 2025, 05:30:34 AMReading accounts of the behavior of the American mobs has guaranteed I will be rooting for Europe for at least the next two Ryder Cups. Just like I do with posters on this site, I will judge the fans with the same energy they brought to the players.
I feel the same.
But we need to clarify that is wasn't all fans. It was the Bros. Toxic maggots that destroy everything in sight.
Quote from: Jockey on September 30, 2025, 06:29:38 PMI feel the same.
But we need to clarify that is wasn't all fans. It was the Bros. Toxic maggots that destroy everything in sight.
Yes. Bro-anything is annoying as hell.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 30, 2025, 09:52:09 AMMuggsy isn't a believer in facts
They have multiple homes and most of them have their primary residence in the USA.
Quote from: The Sultan on September 30, 2025, 12:12:02 PMPhil Mickelson thinks Lou Holtz is the key to future Ryder Cup success.
https://x.com/PhilMickelson/status/1973051607966527580
This is obviously absurd. I think he was probably seeking attention.
Quote from: MuggsyB on September 30, 2025, 06:44:09 PMThey have multiple homes and most of them have their primary residence in the USA.
Not after the American Gestapo boots them
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 30, 2025, 07:01:36 PMNot after the American Gestapo boots them
Eaxh one of them is more capitalistic than the entire Scooper community combined, so it's odd you portray them as something they're not. Their opulent lifestyles are because of the United States, and their Euro tour doesn't exist without the United States. They epitomize the things you seemingly hate about our country.
Why do you think "BuT tHeY lIvE iN tHe UsA!!11!!" is such a flex? It's where a lot of them work.
Quote from: The Sultan on September 30, 2025, 07:20:18 PMWhy do you think "BuT tHeY lIvE iN tHe UsA!!11!!" is such a flex? It's where a lot of them work.
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Yes. And it's where many of them spent their formative years honing their skills. My point is that a lot of them are culturally similar to the American born players.
Quote from: MuggsyB on September 30, 2025, 07:17:15 PMEaxh one of them is more capitalistic than the entire Scooper community combined, so it's odd you portray them as something they're not. Their opulent lifestyles are because of the United States, and their Euro tour doesn't exist without the United States. They epitomize the things you seemingly hate about our country.
They're great teammates that play for one another and are true sportsmen unlike the American team you worship because of jingoistic small mindedness.
You can cheer for losers, I'll cheer for champions.
Quote from: MuggsyB on September 30, 2025, 07:26:33 PM..
Yes. And it's where many of them spent their formative years honing their skills. My point is that many of them are culturally similar the American born players.
Culturally similar to American born players? I don't think they're fascists.
Quote from: tower912 on September 30, 2025, 06:38:48 PMYes. Bro-anything is annoying as hell.
What about "bruh," doh?
Quote from: MuggsyB on September 30, 2025, 06:44:09 PMThey have multiple homes and most of them have their primary residence in the USA.
Wrong again.
Quote from: MuggsyB on September 30, 2025, 07:26:33 PM..
Yes. And it's where many of them spent their formative years honing their skills. My point is that a lot of them are culturally similar to the American born players.
"Formative years" and the culture that people identify with is where they were raised as children and young adults. THINK about what you have written
before hitting the post button and maybe, just maybe, you will avoid making an ass out of yourself.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on September 30, 2025, 10:09:25 PM"Formative years" and the culture that people identify with is where they were raised as children and young adults. THINK about what you have written before hitting the post button and maybe, just maybe, you will avoid making an ass out of yourself.
Europe has won 11 of 15 Ryder Cups in the last 30 years. Over that time, Team Europe has consistently been ahead of the US team when it comes to preparation, team dynamics, leadership, succession planning, player development, and now, analytics in Ryder Cups.
But, you know, they are basically the same.
Quote from: RJax55 on September 30, 2025, 10:22:28 PMEurope has won 11 of 15 Ryder Cups in the last 30 years. Over that time, Team Europe has consistently been ahead of the US team when it comes to preparation, team dynamics, leadership, succession planning, player development, and now, analytics in Ryder Cups.
But, you know, they are basically the same.
It's simple. American golfers represent the decay of the country.
Nm
Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 01, 2025, 06:23:25 AMIt's simple. American golfers represent the decay of the country.
The fans that were jagoffs don't represent the players or our entire country.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on September 30, 2025, 10:09:25 PM"Formative years" and the culture that people identify with is where they were raised as children and young adults. THINK about what you have written before hitting the post button and maybe, just maybe, you will avoid making an ass out of yourself.
They are basically carbon copies of the American players that are constantly criticized here. Identical lifestyles.
Quote from: MuggsyB on October 01, 2025, 06:59:09 AMThey are basically carbon copies of the American players that are constantly criticized here. Identical lifestyles.
Except they're not fascists
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Quote from: tower912 on October 01, 2025, 07:30:49 AMG---------------A--------------P
Yup. Class, culture, teamwork and human decency are a chasm between Team Europe and the American team.
Quote from: MuggsyB on October 01, 2025, 06:57:09 AMThe fans that were jagoffs don't represent the players or our entire country.
It would blow your mind if you applied this principle to other places in the world.
Quote from: Pakuni on October 01, 2025, 08:13:07 AMIt would blow your mind if you applied this principle to other places in the world.
He's on a roll. Don't stop him.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 01, 2025, 07:36:46 AMYup. Class, culture, teamwork and human decency are a chasm between Team Europe and the American team.
You don't know any of these people. "Human decency" is a complicated subject often masked by all sorts of things and a lot of poltical nonsense these days. There are very good people out there, but many,many,many more who are horrible and another contingent that are asshead/scumbags. It's just a part of our species.
This is why I emphasize the greatness of our wide range of animal species. Obviously, dogs hold a special status with humans, but whether it be cats, 🐘, 🐋, Rhinos, 🦒, Walruses, Emperor Penguins, 🐻 , Manatees,Leopards, Jaguars, Elk, Moose, 🐎, wildebeest, Sea Otters, Gorillas, Orangutans, Zebras, Okapi, Ibexes, bats, squirrels, koalas, kangaroos, 🐙, or platypuses, just to name a few, we need to chill out about our value as a species.
And we absolutely, unequivocally, must respect the tremendous members of the animal kingdom sharing our planet. Always keep this in mind: There are millions and millions of bad and evil humam beings. There are 0.0 in that category among the animals I've mentioned above. 0.0% All are phenomenal. Period. Have a good day.
We also must protect the pangolin population. Terrible injustice to these amazing creatures.
Quote from: MuggsyB on October 01, 2025, 08:40:54 AMYou don't know any of these people. "Human decency" is a complicated subject often masked by all sorts of things and a lot of poltical nonsense these days. There are very good people out there, but many,many,many more who are horrible and another contingent that are asshead/scumbags. It's just a part of our species.
This is why I emphasize the greatness of our wide range of animal species. Obviously, dogs hold a special status with humans, but whether it be cats, 🐘, 🐋, Rhinos, 🦒, Walruses, Emperor Penguins, 🐻 , Manatees,Leopards, Jaguars, Elk, Moose, 🐎, wildebeest, Sea Otters, Gorillas, Orangutans, Zebras, Okapi, Ibexes, bats, squirrels, koalas, kangaroos, 🐙, or platypuses, just to name a few, we need to chill out about our value as a species.
And we absolutely, unequivocally, must respect the tremendous members of the animal kingdom sharing our planet. Always keep this in mind: There are millions and millions of bad and evil humam beings. There are 0.0 in that category among the animals I've mentioned above. 0.0% All are phenomenal. Period. Have a good day.
We also must protect the pangolin population. Terrible injustice to these amazing creatures.
It's not complicated at all. Team Europe is superior to their American counterparts in every way conceivable. Listen, you want to cheer for losers and fascists and that's your right as an American. I'll cheer for a team that embraces playing for one another and a team and a team that doesn't need to be paid to do so.
Reports are now surfacing that the Europeans arrived 10 days early and played multiple practice rounds on the course, while the Americans hardly played at all. If true, that's pretty damning as well.
Quote from: The Sultan on October 01, 2025, 09:16:06 AMReports are now surfacing that the Europeans arrived 10 days early and played multiple practice rounds on the course, while the Americans hardly played at all. If true, that's pretty damning as well.
At the end of the day, the Europeans just take it more seriously. I think the talent of the Americans shows in Singles, but dig too deep a hole in the first two days.
Quote from: The Sultan on October 01, 2025, 09:16:06 AMReports are now surfacing that the Europeans arrived 10 days early and played multiple practice rounds on the course, while the Americans hardly played at all. If true, that's pretty damning as well.
American arrogance. Couple that with American ignorance and you can see why we lose these things. Just perfectly encapsulates modern America. Your English teacher would tell you the symbolism is too obvious and to be more nuanced. But the Euros live here or something.
Quote from: cheebs09 on October 01, 2025, 09:25:56 AMAt the end of the day, the Europeans just take it more seriously. I think the talent of the Americans shows in Singles, but dig too deep a hole in the first two days.
Yes.
Quote from: MuggsyB on October 01, 2025, 06:57:09 AMThe fans that were jagoffs don't represent the players or our entire country.
I mean, they're exactly what is running our country.
Quote from: wadesworld on October 01, 2025, 11:54:22 AMI mean, they're exactly what is running our country.
Muggsy needs to be hit over the head with the symbolism
Quote from: wadesworld on October 01, 2025, 11:54:22 AMI mean, they're exactly what is running our country.
Yes, the jag-offs perfectly represent where America is at currently. Dumber than dirt and yelling obscenities.
The coarsening of America.
Say whatever you want whenever you want to whomever you want. Unless you're a late-night TV comedian or you're criticizing the Israeli government for starving children.
Quote from: wadesworld on October 01, 2025, 11:54:22 AMI mean, they're exactly what is running our country.
The absolute truth.
Quote from: MuggsyB on October 01, 2025, 06:52:48 AMNm
This is
by far your best post in this thread. Kudos Muggsy! I hope this becomes your new MO.
Quote from: MuggsyB on October 01, 2025, 08:40:54 AMYou don't know any of these people. And you do?
poltical nonsense You are accusing other people of nonsense?
and another contingent that are asshead And also calling other people assheads?
Always keep this in mind: Muggsy lecture alert.
Quote from: wadesworld on October 01, 2025, 11:54:22 AMI mean, they're exactly what is running ruining our country.
FIFY
NBC averaged just 3.22 million viewers for Sunday singles, the lowest number since before 2000. Sky Sports, on the other hand, set viewership records across the pond (5 million on Sunday) as Europe retained the Cup.
Fans like winners.
Quote from: MuggsyB on October 01, 2025, 06:59:09 AMThey are basically carbon copies of the American players that are constantly criticized here. Identical lifestyles.
Yeah no they aren't. They might make the same money and have the same opportunities but the mindset is different and that means everything.
Quote from: MuggsyB on October 01, 2025, 08:40:54 AMYou don't know any of these people. "Human decency" is a complicated subject often masked by all sorts of things and a lot of poltical nonsense these days. There are very good people out there, but many,many,many more who are horrible and another contingent that are asshead/scumbags. It's just a part of our species.
This is why I emphasize the greatness of our wide range of animal species. Obviously, dogs hold a special status with humans, but whether it be cats, 🐘, 🐋, Rhinos, 🦒, Walruses, Emperor Penguins, 🐻 , Manatees,Leopards, Jaguars, Elk, Moose, 🐎, wildebeest, Sea Otters, Gorillas, Orangutans, Zebras, Okapi, Ibexes, bats, squirrels, koalas, kangaroos, 🐙, or platypuses, just to name a few, we need to chill out about our value as a species.
And we absolutely, unequivocally, must respect the tremendous members of the animal kingdom sharing our planet. Always keep this in mind: There are millions and millions of bad and evil humam beings. There are 0.0 in that category among the animals I've mentioned above. 0.0% All are phenomenal. Period. Have a good day.
We also must protect the pangolin population. Terrible injustice to these amazing creatures.
Muggsy, honestly I view your perspective on animals as admirable and wholesome. If more people had your view the world would be a much better place.
Unfortunately, you don't extend that perspective to human beings, outside of fascists and Israel.
Quote from: BM1090 on October 02, 2025, 03:13:18 PMMuggsy, honestly I view your perspective on animals as admirable and wholesome. If more people had your view the world would be a much better place.
Unfortunately, you don't extend that perspective to human beings, outside of fascists and Israel.
Yep!
Quote from: 🏀 on September 30, 2025, 09:38:18 AMSpeaking of over-generalizations.
Sepp, Ludvig and Viktor are the only players living in the US.
Today, I learned that Jupiter Fl is located in Europe! Wonder if that means I'm not restricted to 90 days in the Schengen anymore.
https://www.bunkered.co.uk/golf-news/inside-rory-mcilroys-22million-florida-mansion/ (https://www.bunkered.co.uk/golf-news/inside-rory-mcilroys-22million-florida-mansion/)
https://www.rsvplive.ie/news/celebs/shane-lowrys-incredible-wealth-homes-35036166
Or Arizona
https://deluxegolfhomes.com/contemporary-32-million-silverleaf-mansion-in-scottsdale-az/
Quote from: pbiflyer on October 02, 2025, 03:47:09 PMToday, I learned that Jupiter Fl is located in Europe! Wonder if that means I'm not restricted to 90 days in the Schengen anymore.
https://www.bunkered.co.uk/golf-news/inside-rory-mcilroys-22million-florida-mansion/ (https://www.bunkered.co.uk/golf-news/inside-rory-mcilroys-22million-florida-mansion/)
https://www.rsvplive.ie/news/celebs/shane-lowrys-incredible-wealth-homes-35036166
Or Arizona
https://deluxegolfhomes.com/contemporary-32-million-silverleaf-mansion-in-scottsdale-az/
Rico has properties all over the world, doesn't mean he's living at each one.
Quote from: 🏀 on October 02, 2025, 05:37:00 PMRico has properties all over the world, doesn't mean he's living at each one.
I've been to Rory's house while he was living there...
Quote from: pbiflyer on October 03, 2025, 10:18:04 PMI've been to Rory's house while he was living there...
The escargot at his Albany estate is the best I've ever had.