https://nypost.com/2025/08/27/us-news/minneapolis-shooting-live-updates-latest-on-catholic-school-active-scene/
Quote from: muwarrior69 on August 27, 2025, 11:11:55 AMhttps://nypost.com/2025/08/27/us-news/minneapolis-shooting-live-updates-latest-on-catholic-school-active-scene/
Were they able to save the gun?
thoughts and prayers
Quote from: Uncle Rico on August 27, 2025, 11:13:27 AMWere they able to save the gun?
Amazing how a group so focused on defending the Second Amendment has no problem ignoring most other Amendments.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on August 27, 2025, 11:21:32 AMAmazing how a group so focused on defending the Second Amendment has no problem ignoring most other Amendments.
Sure is something but I get it, you have to keep the federal government from invading your cities and using the armed forces against those they don't like
Quote from: Skatastrophy on August 27, 2025, 11:13:52 AMthoughts and prayers
The shooting took place while the kids literally were thinking and praying.
But it wouldn't have happened if all of the kids had been armed.
#1800gunz4kidz
How evil and mentally ill must the shooter have been? Gotta imagine there were warning signs.
Just awful. This school/parish is less than 2.5 south of my K-8/parish. Unimaginable.
Not directly related, but our city has had a rash of shootings over the last 24 hours. Minneapolis is done; past the point of no return. Heartbreaking, but it's reality.
Trey Gowdy really puts things into perspective:
https://bsky.app/profile/justinbaragona.bsky.social/post/3lxfgmc77i22o
Quote from: Jay Bee on August 27, 2025, 11:39:18 AMHow evil and mentally ill must the shooter have been? Gotta imagine there were warning signs.
How evil and mentally ill must some people be to see kids gunned down for the 70,000th time and refuse to do anything to stop it from happening again? Gotta imagine there are warning signs.
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on August 27, 2025, 12:37:08 PMHow evil and mentally ill must some people be to see kids gunned down for the 70,000th time and refuse to do anything to stop it from happening again? Gotta imagine there are warning signs.
Nothing you can do but pray. The constitution is quite clear. And we can't afford to help people with mental health issues. Money just isn't there in America right now. A real conundrum.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on August 27, 2025, 12:50:21 PMNothing you can do but pray. The constitution is quite clear. And we can't afford to help people with mental health issues. Money just isn't there in America right now. A real conundrum.
Well, we could stop getting vaccinated. And do more push ups.
Quote from: The Sultan on August 27, 2025, 12:54:24 PMWell, we could stop getting vaccinated. And do more push ups.
Probably time to use the national guard at all schools
Quote from: Uncle Rico on August 27, 2025, 01:03:05 PMProbably time to use the national guard at all schools
Someone needs to spread the mulch.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on August 27, 2025, 11:59:49 AMTrey Gowdy really puts things into perspective:
https://bsky.app/profile/justinbaragona.bsky.social/post/3lxfgmc77i22o
Join Jesus, alongside children of color and immigrant children? Sounds woke.
Quote from: MU82 on August 27, 2025, 01:06:06 PMJoin Jesus, alongside children of color and immigrant children? Sounds woke.
I'm sure he'd clarify to mean white Jesus
Quote from: Jay Bee on August 27, 2025, 11:39:18 AMHow evil and mentally ill must the shooter have been? Gotta imagine there were warning signs.
Just awful. This school/parish is
Those may not get mentioned...
https://x.com/nypost/status/1960755850496098807?t=5RvpJhISuj4cwb4L6hBmXg&s=19
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on August 27, 2025, 01:28:14 PMThose may not get mentioned...
https://x.com/nypost/status/1960755850496098807?t=5RvpJhISuj4cwb4L6hBmXg&s=19
Those won't get mentioned? lol
https://bsky.app/profile/msnbc.com/post/3lxfm7szawk2o
Victor should have had a gun tbh.
Quote from: The Sultan on August 27, 2025, 02:04:15 PMhttps://bsky.app/profile/msnbc.com/post/3lxfm7szawk2o
Victor should have had a gun tbh.
His parents failed him terribly
Gosh, imagine being 10 years old, surviving that, and having a bunch of news cameras in your face.
I believe Victor was not one of the two that passed.
Quote from: cheebs09 on August 27, 2025, 02:08:14 PMGosh, imagine being 10 years old, surviving that, and having a bunch of news cameras in your face.
I believe Victor was not one of the two that passed.
If he does, he'll be with his biggest fan, Jesus
As a society, the USA has forsaken the biblical exhortation to 'have no gods before Me'. A significant part of the USA has made guns their god and gun culture their religion. This trickles down. Obsessed with mass killings, thinking guns are the answer to your pain. We reap what we sow.
Thoughts and prayers. (To which god?)
Quote from: cheebs09 on August 27, 2025, 02:08:14 PMGosh, imagine being 10 years old, surviving that, and having a bunch of news cameras in your face.
I believe Victor was not one of the two that passed.
Yeah. I was thinking the same thing. Interviewing a kid shortly after the most traumatic event of their lives is absurd.
Quote from: tower912 on August 27, 2025, 02:26:26 PMAs a society, the USA has forsaken the biblical exhortation to 'have no gods before Me'. A significant part of the USA has made guns their god and gun culture their religion. This trickles down. Obsessed with mass killings, thinking guns are the answer to your pain. We reap what we sow.
Thoughts and prayers. (To which god?)
Politicians with AK-47's in their Christmas cards surely respect the teachings of Jesus
Quote from: Uncle Rico on August 27, 2025, 02:54:44 PMPoliticians with AK-47's in their Christmas cards surely respect the teachings of Jesus
Had they been invented at the time, it clearly would have been one of the gifts of the Magi. Myrrh is pretty much a beta-male thing anyway.
Minneapolis mayor gets it
Quote from: Skatastrophy on August 27, 2025, 03:09:57 PMMinneapolis mayor gets it
He does, but...
We've seen passionate speeches from politicians after school shootings before yet...
Frey is a pandering tool. This city is a cesspool.
Quote from: Jay Bee on August 27, 2025, 03:45:33 PMFrey is a pandering tool. This city is a cesspool.
No it's not. It has isolated violence here and there like every other city / metwro plex / small town / village in America.
My family was in the Twin Cities this summer for volleyball and college visits. It was sensational. Didn't feel an ounce unsafe.
The tough guys with big guns are complete wusses when they talk about bigger cities, homelessness, etc. Scared of everything.
Quote from: The Lens on August 27, 2025, 03:48:19 PMNo it's not. It has isolated violence here and there like every other city / metwro plex / small town / village in America.
My family was in the Twin Cities this summer for volleyball and college visits. It was sensational. Didn't feel an ounce unsafe.
False. Nice that you had some pleasant visits, but the city is done. I've been here.
Quote from: wadesworld on August 27, 2025, 03:50:04 PMThe tough guys with big guns are complete wusses when they talk about bigger cities, homelessness, etc. Scared of everything.
No one softer than the big babies afraid of cities
Meh. I was more worried about being attacked by bears in Alaska than I was worried about crime walking the streets of DC, Baltimore, NYC, Chicago, Detroit over the last 18 months.
#sackupbuttercup
Shooter Robin Westman. Formerly Robert Westman. Information provided by Chat GPT.
Here's what is known so far about Robin M. Westman (formerly Robert Paul Westman), the individual responsible for the tragic shooting at Annunciation Catholic School in Minneapolis on August 27, 2025:
Personal Background
Name & Identity
Born Robert Paul Westman on June 17, 2002, in Richfield, Minnesota.
Wikipedia
The Washington Post
ABC News
Changed name to Robin M. Westman in January 2020 (application filed at age 17) to reflect her female gender identity.
The Washington Post
Wikipedia
ABC News
Family & Community Ties
Grew up in Richfield, Minn.
https://www.kttc.com
Wikipedia
Attended Annunciation Catholic School, graduating in 2017.
New York Post
Wikipedia
Her mother, Mary (or Mary Grace) Westman, worked as a parish secretary at Annunciation from around 2016 until her retirement in 2021.
New York Post
The Times
Wikipedia
https://www.kttc.com
Criminal History
Authorities report no significant prior criminal history for Westman.
The Washington Post
New York Post
Wikipedia
The Shooting & Preceding Manifesto
Incident Summary
On August 27, 2025, around 8:30 a.m. CDT, Westman attacked during a school-wide Mass at Annunciation Catholic School—firing through stained-glass windows with a rifle, shotgun, and pistol.
The Guardian
People.com
Wikipedia
Victims: Two children (ages 8 and 10) were killed. Seventeen others—including students and elderly parishioners—were wounded. Westman died by a self-inflicted gunshot at the scene.
The Guardian
People.com
Wikipedia
Manifesto & Online Activity
Westman posted disturbing videos to YouTube hours before the attack, including:
A narrated walkthrough of a handwritten notebook (some pages in Cyrillic) containing violent fantasies, plans, and schematics.
A second video showcasing her weapons, with magazines labeled phrases like "for the children" and "kill Donald Trump."
New York Post
+1
People.com
Wikipedia
The notebook entries revealed:
Deep admiration for past mass shooters (e.g., Adam Lanza of Sandy Hook) and explicit fantasies about terrorism and violence.
New York Post
+1
Hate-filled, antisemitic content—referencing "Zionist Jews," stating desires to kill Jewish people, along with broader extremist and political themes.
New York Post
+1
The FBI is investigating the shooting as a domestic terrorism incident and potential hate crime, particularly given the anti-Catholic tone and extremist content of the manifesto.
Is it the same people that said people were welcome to move out of the country if they don't like the results of an election the same people that are calling for the National Guard to be called in to clean up their cities that are "done?"
Quote from: NCMUFan on August 27, 2025, 04:04:57 PMShooter Robin Westman. Formerly Robert Westman. Information provided by Chat GPT.
Here's what is known so far about Robin M. Westman (formerly Robert Paul Westman), the individual responsible for the tragic shooting at Annunciation Catholic School in Minneapolis on August 27, 2025:
Personal Background
Name & Identity
Born Robert Paul Westman on June 17, 2002, in Richfield, Minnesota.
Wikipedia
The Washington Post
ABC News
Changed name to Robin M. Westman in January 2020 (application filed at age 17) to reflect her female gender identity.
The Washington Post
Wikipedia
ABC News
Family & Community Ties
Grew up in Richfield, Minn.
https://www.kttc.com
Wikipedia
Attended Annunciation Catholic School, graduating in 2017.
New York Post
Wikipedia
Her mother, Mary (or Mary Grace) Westman, worked as a parish secretary at Annunciation from around 2016 until her retirement in 2021.
New York Post
The Times
Wikipedia
https://www.kttc.com
Criminal History
Authorities report no significant prior criminal history for Westman.
The Washington Post
New York Post
Wikipedia
The Shooting & Preceding Manifesto
Incident Summary
On August 27, 2025, around 8:30 a.m. CDT, Westman attacked during a school-wide Mass at Annunciation Catholic School—firing through stained-glass windows with a rifle, shotgun, and pistol.
The Guardian
People.com
Wikipedia
Victims: Two children (ages 8 and 10) were killed. Seventeen others—including students and elderly parishioners—were wounded. Westman died by a self-inflicted gunshot at the scene.
The Guardian
People.com
Wikipedia
Manifesto & Online Activity
Westman posted disturbing videos to YouTube hours before the attack, including:
A narrated walkthrough of a handwritten notebook (some pages in Cyrillic) containing violent fantasies, plans, and schematics.
A second video showcasing her weapons, with magazines labeled phrases like "for the children" and "kill Donald Trump."
New York Post
+1
People.com
Wikipedia
The notebook entries revealed:
Deep admiration for past mass shooters (e.g., Adam Lanza of Sandy Hook) and explicit fantasies about terrorism and violence.
New York Post
+1
Hate-filled, antisemitic content—referencing "Zionist Jews," stating desires to kill Jewish people, along with broader extremist and political themes.
New York Post
+1
The FBI is investigating the shooting as a domestic terrorism incident and potential hate crime, particularly given the anti-Catholic tone and extremist content of the manifesto.
Yep. A deeply troubled soul who acted out their pain and alienation with guns. Same old story.
Quote from: tower912 on August 27, 2025, 04:11:40 PMYep. A deeply troubled soul who acted out their pain and alienation with guns. Same old story.
Do thoughts and prayers stop gun violence
ChatGPT said:
"Thoughts and prayers" alone do not stop gun violence.
They may offer emotional support and show solidarity with victims, but they do not address the root causes or change the conditions that lead to gun violence. Meaningful reduction in gun violence generally requires:
Policy changes (e.g. background checks, safe storage laws, red flag laws)
Community-based programs
Mental health support
Improved law enforcement practices
Addressing systemic inequality and poverty
The phrase "thoughts and prayers" is often criticized when it's used in place of concrete action, especially after mass shootings. Many see it as a symbolic gesture that lacks follow-through.
Shooter isn't a thug or low-IQ or violent. He's white, so it was a mental-health thing.
But don't ask why we're cutting mental-health funding by billions of dollars.
Quote from: MU82 on August 27, 2025, 04:29:05 PMShooter isn't a thug or low-IQ or violent. He's white, so it was a mental-health thing.
But don't ask why we're cutting mental-health funding by billions of dollars.
Stop misgendering her
Quote from: Jay Bee on August 27, 2025, 04:37:12 PMStop misgendering her
She went to a Catholic school, so she was probably abused by a priest. It's a pretty sick cult.
Probably traumatized by super-annuated sexually confused 12 year olds who still make gay jokes and think they are funny.
Quote from: wadesworld on August 27, 2025, 03:50:04 PMThe tough guys with big guns are complete wusses when they talk about bigger cities, homelessness, etc. Scared of everything.
https://x.com/3YearLetterman/status/1958708036660293869
We've got a white guy who flirted with transitioning, who was also an antisemitic Nazi sympathizer, who was also obsessed with mass shooters, who also somehow got a hold of an arsenal of guns despite all the above.
Everybody wins!*
*Except for the dead kids, who are secondary to the issue
Wasn't a criminal until the first trigger was pulled.
Quote from: Pakuni on August 27, 2025, 05:02:32 PMWe've got a white guy who flirted with transitioning, who was also an antisemitic Nazi sympathizer, who was also obsessed with mass shooters, who also somehow got a hold of an arsenal of guns despite all the above.
Everybody wins!*
*Except for the dead kids, who are secondary to the issue
Dead kids have always been secondary to the issue. That's been resolved for decades
The nihilism irony-meme driven violence culture is pretty concerning right now. I'm not sure many on here are familiar with it but it's irony poisoning to a terminal level where nihilistic violence based on "nothing matters anyway" furthers the meme. It's self perpetuating and each iteration adds another layer of copycat potential.
There's been multiple incidents in the past year driven by this insular hyperviolence fixated youth culture.
As you continue to dry up community and recreational opportunities along with continuing downward trending economic disparity, this is just gonna keep exponentially spreading. Social/economic Isolation is a big f***ing problem in the current young generation.
Quote from: Shaka Shart on August 27, 2025, 05:34:40 PMThe nihilism irony-meme driven violence culture is pretty concerning right now. I'm not sure many on here are familiar with it but it's irony poisoning to a terminal level where nihilistic violence based on "nothing matters anyway" furthers the meme. It's self perpetuating and each iteration adds another layer of copycat potential.
There's been multiple incidents in the past year driven by this insular hyperviolence fixated youth culture.
As you continue to dry up community and recreational opportunities along with continuing downward trending economic disparity, this is just gonna keep exponentially spreading. Social/economic Isolation is a big f***ing problem in the current young generation.
Factory jobs and coal mining are coming back bigly, so that will help poors
Quote from: Shaka Shart on August 27, 2025, 05:34:40 PMThe nihilism irony-meme driven violence culture is pretty concerning right now. I'm not sure many on here are familiar with it but it's irony poisoning to a terminal level where nihilistic violence based on "nothing matters anyway" furthers the meme. It's self perpetuating and each iteration adds another layer of copycat potential.
There's been multiple incidents in the past year driven by this insular hyperviolence fixated youth culture.
As you continue to dry up community and recreational opportunities along with continuing downward trending economic disparity, this is just gonna keep exponentially spreading. Social/economic Isolation is a big f***ing problem in the current young generation.
Fear not, Mark Zuckerberg is going to fix this problem he helped perpetuate by giving isolated kids AI friends.
https://bsky.app/profile/dieworkwear.bsky.social/post/3lxg3mpiqek2q
How old was reeko when ze was allowed to "switch" ze's sex?
Quote from: Jay Bee on August 27, 2025, 06:26:40 PMHow old was reeko when ze was allowed to "switch" ze's sex?
Why do you care? Does it scare you like cities and hashtags scare you?
Listen, I get it. Years of failure by society to police guns and gun violence is hard to talk about, so you'd rather distract with talk of gender and pronouns. It's red meat for the feeble minded. Just like Cracker Barrel logo was red meat for the feeble minded.
Quote from: Jay Bee on August 27, 2025, 04:37:12 PMStop misgendering her
Woman ... man ... "ze" ... straight ... gay ... trans ... sane ... insane ... depressed ... evil ... whatever. The one thing we can all agree on is it's good that the person had unlimited access to unlimited guns.
#1-800-gunz4kidz
Nah. Gotta stop encouraging minors to make huge decisions based on delusion and ignorance.
Service, respect, common decency.
Quote from: Jay Bee on August 27, 2025, 07:34:46 PMNah. Gotta stop encouraging minors to make huge decisions based on delusion and ignorance.
Service, respect, common decency.
This "minor" in Minneapolis was old enough to join the military when her mother changed her gender.
I'm in a bad place. I hope you all have great lives and whatnot. This country is eff'd and the city of Minneapolis is absolutely dunzo. #BlessUp
We agree the country is fd up. We disagree on the root cause.
Quote from: Jay Bee on August 27, 2025, 07:57:06 PMI'm in a bad place. I hope you all have great lives and whatnot. This country is eff'd and the city of Minneapolis is absolutely dunzo. #BlessUp
Move then
Quote from: Jay Bee on August 27, 2025, 07:57:06 PMI'm in a bad place. I hope you all have great lives and whatnot. This country is eff'd and the city of Minneapolis is absolutely dunzo. #BlessUp
Go play some pickleball while you're still among us.
You're fine, snowflake.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on August 27, 2025, 04:42:43 PMShe went to a Catholic school, so she was probably abused by a priest. It's a pretty sick cult.
Just stop!
Quote from: Shaka Shart on August 27, 2025, 05:34:40 PMAs you continue to dry up community and recreational opportunities along with continuing downward trending economic disparity, this is just gonna keep exponentially spreading. Social/economic Isolation is a big f***ing problem in the current young generation.
My son is still a few years away from me even having to worry about social media, the internet, etc... But I'm already preparing for incessant and repeated lessons/chats about how its not real life. We talk about it plenty here, and sometimes are probably guilty of it a bit tribally on some points in various threads, but the opportunity for isolation combined with false community online is just a powderkeg doused in rocket fuel. And you don't even have to be an extreme incel antisocial loser to fall victim. A kid has a bad month at school (which happens all the time to perfectly normal kids), they retreat to some corner of the internet, harmlessly at first, and then its touch and go.
Suddenly you think that the insanely combative tribal all or nothing nature of internet groups and trends is real life. Leftist, alt-right, anti-woke, everyone I disagree with is a facist, "I wont talk/date/befriend anyone who isn't outspoken on (insert issue of the season)"...Its very easy to think thats super common cause algorithms LOVE pumping that type of divisive sentiment. When it reality a minute fraction of people in your normal life act as such.
I don't have an answer on how to fix it, all I can speak to is how to try and curb it in your own sphere of influence, but its an issue that spans demographic, economic, and racial groups, that's for sure.
Quote from: JWags85 on August 27, 2025, 09:37:14 PMMy son is still a few years away from me even having to worry about social media, the internet, etc... But I'm already preparing for incessant and repeated lessons/chats about how its not real life. We talk about it plenty here, and sometimes are probably guilty of it a bit tribally on some points in various threads, but the opportunity for isolation combined with false community online is just a powderkeg doused in rocket fuel. And you don't even have to be an extreme incel antisocial loser to fall victim. A kid has a bad month at school (which happens all the time to perfectly normal kids), they retreat to some corner of the internet, harmlessly at first, and then its touch and go.
Suddenly you think that the insanely combative tribal all or nothing nature of internet groups and trends is real life. Leftist, alt-right, anti-woke, everyone I disagree with is a facist, "I wont talk/date/befriend anyone who isn't outspoken on (insert issue of the season)"...Its very easy to think thats super common cause algorithms LOVE pumping that type of divisive sentiment. When it reality a minute fraction of people in your normal life act as such.
I don't have an answer on how to fix it, all I can speak to is how to try and curb it in your own sphere of influence, but its an issue that spans demographic, economic, and racial groups, that's for sure.
Mark Zuckerberg will go down as one of the great villains of the 2000s
Trey Gowdy calling for more gun laws tonite?
Pigs must be flyin' everywhere.
Quote from: Jockey on August 27, 2025, 10:16:24 PMTrey Gowdy calling for more gun laws tonite?
Pigs must be flyin' everywhere.
Methinks Trey saw the backlash to his comments from yesterday morning and was throwing his critics a bone.
There will not be more gun laws. Yesterday was a great day for the NRA and NRA bought politicians when it comes to fundraising.
Quote from: JWags85 on August 27, 2025, 09:37:14 PMSuddenly you think that the insanely combative tribal all or nothing nature of internet groups and trends is real life.
I don't have an answer on how to fix it, all I can speak to is how to try and curb it in your own sphere of influence, but it's an issue that spans demographic, economic, and racial groups,
Great post Jwags. People of all ages can latch onto any ism and feel secure and completely confident that they have found the
TRUTH, but young people seem especially vulnerable. I'm not sure how/if mental illness comes into play here. One could argue the old "chicken or the egg" cliche'. Tribalism has been around for thousands of years, but social media supercharges it.
Quote from: Shaka Shart on August 27, 2025, 10:00:08 PMMark Zuckerberg will go down as one of the great villains of the 2000s
Of the 21st century, really, but it will depend on who writes history
Quote from: Shaka Shart on August 27, 2025, 10:00:08 PMMark Zuckerberg will go down as one of the great villains of the 2000s
Alexis Ohanian skates on criticism an awful lot cause I'd argue that Reddit has become a far more negative and impactful influence over the last decade, and spawn copycat formats that relentlessly feed what we're talking about,
this guy was definitely mentally ill:
https://nypost.com/2025/08/28/us-news/minneapolis-school-shooter-robin-westman-confessed-he-was-tired-of-being-trans/
https://nypost.com/2025/08/27/us-news/minneapolis-catholic-school-gunman-idd-as-robin-westman-while-possible-manifesto-shows-psychotic-obsession-with-mass-shooters/
Quote from: Uncle Rico on August 27, 2025, 04:42:43 PMShe went to a Catholic school, so she was probably abused by a priest. It's a pretty sick cult.
Or a former Boy Scout
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on August 28, 2025, 11:11:45 AMthis guy was definitely mentally ill:
https://nypost.com/2025/08/28/us-news/minneapolis-school-shooter-robin-westman-confessed-he-was-tired-of-being-trans/
https://nypost.com/2025/08/27/us-news/minneapolis-catholic-school-gunman-idd-as-robin-westman-while-possible-manifesto-shows-psychotic-obsession-with-mass-shooters/
Thank you for keeping the focus on the important stuff here.
I'll go out on a limb and say anyone who is murdering innocent children is mentally ill.
Quote from: wadesworld on August 28, 2025, 11:19:17 AMThank you for keeping the focus on the important stuff here.
I'll go out on a limb and say anyone who is murdering innocent children is mentally ill.
Yeah, I think there's more than one issue that needs to be solved. Unfortunately we seem to not be addressing or cutting the resources of helping solve those issues.
I think we definitely need to help support mental health. Although, it sure would be easier to stop people with weapons that aren't guns. Either way, something more needs to be done than just praying about it each time one of these comes up.
Quote from: cheebs09 on August 28, 2025, 12:00:53 PMYeah, I think there's more than one issue that needs to be solved. Unfortunately we seem to not be addressing or cutting the resources of helping solve those issues.
I think we definitely need to help support mental health. Although, it sure would be easier to stop people with weapons that aren't guns. Either way, something more needs to be done than just praying about it each time one of these comes up.
Stop with the common sense.
Quote from: JWags85 on August 28, 2025, 10:54:11 AMAlexis Ohanian skates on criticism an awful lot cause I'd argue that Reddit has become a far more negative and impactful influence over the last decade, and spawn copycat formats that relentlessly feed what we're talking about,
Reddit's ad blitz to drive revenue wasn't as prominent until a little pre Covid. fairly recently. Facebook has been named as a key enabler of ethnic cleansing. I'll respectfully disagree
Groyper, far right, esoteric Nazi
Mentally ill individual who was driven to an insane act by toxic online brainworms
Quote from: JWags85 on August 28, 2025, 10:54:11 AMAlexis Ohanian skates on criticism an awful lot cause I'd argue that Reddit has become a far more negative and impactful influence over the last decade, and spawn copycat formats that relentlessly feed what we're talking about,
Except for the fact that Facebook is used by 3-4x more people than Reddit.
Quote from: JWags85 on August 28, 2025, 10:54:11 AMAlexis Ohanian skates on criticism an awful lot cause I'd argue that Reddit has become a far more negative and impactful influence over the last decade, and spawn copycat formats that relentlessly feed what we're talking about,
I'm not as familiar with how Reddit operates.
Does it too work off an algorithm designed to fuel extremism and polarization?
Quote from: Pakuni on August 28, 2025, 06:57:36 PMI'm not as familiar with how Reddit operates.
Does it too work off an algorithm designed to fuel extremism and polarization?
It's a platform full of reposting of content for likes and groupthink. But monetized misinformation not nearly as much
Quote from: Pakuni on August 28, 2025, 06:57:36 PMI'm not as familiar with how Reddit operates.
Does it too work off an algorithm designed to fuel extremism and polarization?
Quote from: Shaka Shart on August 28, 2025, 07:31:45 PMIt's a platform full of reposting of content for likes and groupthink. But monetized misinformation not nearly as much
Yea, Facebook has a broader range, but I feel like Reddit is jet fuel for driving the mentally ill groupthink and distorted reality even further. Its 4Chan's cleaner, prettier, and more "acceptable" derivative. And its also self-moderated, which is even worse for crafting cavernous echo chambers and making people completely and utterly lose grasp on reality outside of their bubble.
Quote from: JWags85 on August 28, 2025, 08:52:03 PMYea, Facebook has a broader range, but I feel like Reddit is jet fuel for driving the mentally ill groupthink and distorted reality even further. Its 4Chan's cleaner, prettier, and more "acceptable" derivative. And its also self-moderated, which is even worse for crafting cavernous echo chambers and making people completely and utterly lose grasp on reality outside of their bubble.
Yeah, every once in a while you come across a subreddit that's completely off the rails.
Quote from: Skatastrophy on August 28, 2025, 08:55:08 PMYeah, every once in a while you come across a subreddit that's completely off the rails.
r/dentist
Quote from: Skatastrophy on August 28, 2025, 08:55:08 PMYeah, every once in a while you come across a subreddit that's completely off the rails.
I saw excerpts from a Trans subreddit yesterday that was treating the shooting like a 10/7 style event and instead of insane people cheering Hamas as heroic liberators, it was cheering Westman as a badass martyr for the Trans cause and boasting how more religious children can and should die if they and their families don't fall in line. It was an absolute freakshow.
Quote from: JWags85 on August 28, 2025, 09:05:30 PMI saw excerpts from a Trans subreddit yesterday that was treating the shooting like a 10/7 style event and instead of insane people cheering Hamas as heroic liberators, it was cheering Westman as a badass martyr for the Trans cause and boasting how more religious children can and should die if they and their families don't fall in line. It was an absolute freakshow.
Yeah there's extremists in any community. Can't be surprised that they find each other on the Internet. Look at all the people that are into feet that found each other.
Quote from: JWags85 on August 28, 2025, 09:05:30 PMI saw excerpts from a Trans subreddit yesterday that was treating the shooting like a 10/7 style event and instead of insane people cheering Hamas as heroic liberators, it was cheering Westman as a badass martyr for the Trans cause and boasting how more religious children can and should die if they and their families don't fall in line. It was an absolute freakshow.
I find this hard to believe. Would like to see a link.
Quote from: Skatastrophy on August 28, 2025, 09:30:36 PMYeah there's extremists in any community. Can't be surprised that they find each other on the Internet. Look at all the people that are into feet that found each other.
Quote from: JWags85 on August 28, 2025, 08:52:03 PMYea, Facebook has a broader range, but I feel like Reddit is jet fuel for driving the mentally ill groupthink and distorted reality even further. Its 4Chan's cleaner, prettier, and more "acceptable" derivative. And its also self-moderated, which is even worse for crafting cavernous echo chambers and making people completely and utterly lose grasp on reality outside of their bubble.
I don't doubt that there's plenty of crazy on Reddit. But my impression has been - and correct me if I'm wrong - that you have to go looking for and choose to engage with the crazy. That seems different from Facebook, where the crazy finds you.
Quote from: Pakuni on August 28, 2025, 10:46:25 PMI don't doubt that there's plenty of crazy on Reddit. But my impression has been - and correct me if I'm wrong - that you have to go looking for and choose to engage with the crazy. That seems different from Facebook, where the crazy finds you.
I find Reddit comes up in Google searches when I'm trying to fix something or decipher a problem. Someone always seems to have asked a question already and there's already a Reddit thread on it.
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The principal is a creighton grad who I knew, a couple years older than me. If he's anything like he was at Creighton he will be a great rock for the community as they try to return to some semblance of normalcy again.
From the family of 10-year-old shooting victim Harper Moyski:
"While our immediate focus is on Harper and our family's healing, we also believe it is important that her memory fuels action. No family should ever have to endure this kind of pain. We urge our leaders and communities to take meaningful steps to address gun violence and the mental health crisis in this country. Change is possible, and it is necessary—so that Harper's story does not become yet another in a long line of tragedies."
It's heartbreaking that her family suffered this pain. It's also sad that their hope of this tragedy bringing about changes in gun-safety laws will go unfulfilled.
Suggestions of common-sense legislation backed by 80%+ of Americans - including a majority of those who strongly support Second Amendment rights - get laughed at by the corrupt congresspeople who have been bribed by the NRA.
But at least they'll keep offering thoughts and prayers, as well as fairy tales about dead kids ending up with Jesus.
Quote from: MU82 on August 29, 2025, 09:26:04 AMFrom the family of 10-year-old shooting victim Harper Moyski:
"While our immediate focus is on Harper and our family's healing, we also believe it is important that her memory fuels action. No family should ever have to endure this kind of pain. We urge our leaders and communities to take meaningful steps to address gun violence and the mental health crisis in this country. Change is possible, and it is necessary—so that Harper's story does not become yet another in a long line of tragedies."
It's heartbreaking that her family suffered this pain. It's also sad that their hope of this tragedy bringing about changes in gun-safety laws will go unfulfilled.
Suggestions of common-sense legislation backed by 80%+ of Americans - including a majority of those who strongly support Second Amendment rights - get laughed at by the corrupt congresspeople who have been bribed by the NRA.
But at least they'll keep offering thoughts and prayers, as well as fairy tales about dead kids ending up with Jesus.
Thoughts and prayers are a copout and for the feeble minded.
Quote from: MU82 on August 29, 2025, 09:26:04 AMSuggestions of common-sense legislation backed by 80%+ of Americans - including a majority of those who strongly support Second Amendment rights - get laughed at by the corrupt congresspeople who have been bribed by the NRA.
But at least they'll keep offering thoughts and prayers, as well as fairy tales about dead kids ending up with Jesus.
I've said it here before. People are liars and hustlers. I guarantee that 80% of people do NOT support any kind of gun control. They will say they do so they can feel like decent people - that's all.
They have PROVEN election after election that their "belief" is simply a lie.
Powers-that-be naturally say now isn't the right time to talk about gun-safety legislation. But they are talking a big game about mental health ... even as they defund mental-health programs.
Lather, rinse, repeat.
Quote from: MU82 on August 29, 2025, 10:28:02 AMPowers-that-be naturally say now isn't the right time to talk about gun-safety legislation. But they are talking a big game about mental health ... even as they defund mental-health programs.
Lather, rinse, repeat.
They'll blame autism, mental health drugs and vaccines
Quote from: Uncle Rico on August 29, 2025, 10:30:11 AMThey'll blame autism, mental health drugs and vaccines
You forgot trans people.
Statistics by new administration officials prove that trans people commit 49.5% of crimes in the United States, matching the percentage of crimes committed by undocumented immigrants.
I see the new MAGA talking point is "how dare the left attacking praying".
Quote from: Uncle Rico on August 29, 2025, 09:29:05 AMThoughts and prayers are a copout and for the feeble minded.
More accurate words have never been typed.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on August 29, 2025, 10:45:45 AMI see the new MAGA talking point is "how dare the left attacking praying".
I like to think even God would roll His eyes wen someone says their quick prayer and do nothing about it.
1. Prayers clearly don't work. Let's hope the thoughts pick up the slack.
2. If nothing changed after sandy hook, nothing will ever change.
Quote from: jesmu84 on August 29, 2025, 11:18:54 AM2. If nothing changed after sandy hook, nothing will ever change.
Sadly, this.
Quote from: jesmu84 on August 29, 2025, 11:18:54 AM1. Prayers clearly don't work. Let's hope the thoughts pick up the slack.
2. If nothing changed after sandy hook, nothing will ever change.
Correct. Anyone that wants real change get caught in the thoughts and prayers argument because it's a distraction argument. While the people offering thoughts and prayers that are elected officials should be mocked relentlessly for doing nothing and betraying their constituents, don't let up at what it's important. What is important? Tackling the issue at hand, gun violence and mental health.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on August 29, 2025, 11:31:05 AMCorrect. Anyone that wants real change get caught in the thoughts and prayers argument because it's a distraction argument. While the people offering thoughts and prayers that are elected officials should be mocked relentlessly for doing nothing and betraying their constituents, don't let up at what it's important. What is important? Tackling the issue at hand, gun violence and mental health.
Any discussion other than guns is just a distraction.
Start with the variable that causes the most death and destruction.
Then move on to the other variables that the rest of the modern world is also working on.
I happen to think that mental health is equally important as guns. Possibly more so. So let's end the stigma of mental health issues, require mental health coverage in even the most basic insurance plans, make sure that everyone has prescription access to the drugs that can be the final barrier between functional and non, and build enough facilities to handle the struggling. Seems the logical thing if we are going to continue to worship guns.
Quote from: tower912 on August 29, 2025, 12:26:59 PMI happen to think that mental health is equally important as guns. Possibly more so. So let's end the stigma of mental health issues, require mental health coverage in even the most basic insurance plans, make sure that everyone has prescription access to the drugs that can be the final barrier between functional and non, and build enough facilities to handle the struggling. Seems the logical thing if we are going to continue to worship guns.
Mental health is important. I didn't mean to imply it wasn't important to our society.
But in regards to stopping school/mass shootings and the resulting deaths, guns first.
Quote from: jesmu84 on August 29, 2025, 12:37:09 PMMental health is important. I didn't mean to imply it wasn't important to our society.
But in regards to stopping school/mass shootings and the resulting deaths, guns first.
Sadly, it's the only amendment to the constitution we can't ignore
Quote from: jesmu84 on August 29, 2025, 12:37:09 PMMental health is important. I didn't mean to imply it wasn't important to our society.
But in regards to stopping school/mass shootings and the resulting deaths, guns first.
Not mutually exclusive. The brilliant people we put in charge should be able to do both.
Every country deals with mental health issues. Only one deals with school shootings.
Quote from: wadesworld on August 29, 2025, 03:15:08 PMEvery country deals with mental health issues. Only one deals with school shootings.
All the time. There are rare instances of mass shootings elsewhere.
Quote from: wadesworld on August 29, 2025, 03:15:08 PMEvery country deals with mental health issues. Only one deals with school shootings.
The Onion runs the same headline after every shooting.
'No Way To Prevent This,' Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens
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Arm all children.
Problem solved!
Quote from: MU82 on August 29, 2025, 11:28:21 PMArm all children.
Problem solved!
If you asked me to pick which is more likely, arming kids or sensible gun reform and mental health assistance, I'll take arming kids as the most likely outcome
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Prayers aren't inherently bad as sympathy and empathy are good but in this country they are utilized as a complete replacement for even the slightest bit of action to make changes and to avoid any remote shred of guilt or accountability on preventable tragedies
Quote from: Shaka Shart on August 30, 2025, 03:30:30 PMPrayers aren't inherently bad as sympathy and empathy are good but in this country they are utilized as a complete replacement for even the slightest bit of action to make changes and to avoid any remote shred of guilt or accountability on preventable tragedies
Don't forget, right now there are some Christians claiming the real problem with America is too much empathy.
Quote from: tower912 on August 30, 2025, 03:39:30 PMDon't forget, right now there are some Christians claiming the real problem with America is too much empathy.
I just read a couple of articles about this. Probably the most f&cked-up thing I've read this month.
But it tracks, given the political climate in the U.S.
Quote from: tower912 on August 30, 2025, 03:39:30 PMDon't forget, right now there are some Christians claiming the real problem with America is too much empathy.
Except that most people who call themselves Christians, aren't.
Quote from: Jockey on August 30, 2025, 10:25:12 PMExcept that most people who call themselves Christians, aren't.
As an evangelical Christian myself, I take offense to this post.
Found out today that the young girl killed was baptized at my parish in Chicago, her parents were married there.
Pope Leo prays for Minnesota shooting victims and calls for the end of the "pandemic of arms."
Ugh. How woke can you get?