Interested in seeing the reaction of getting booted from the Big East...but the landing spot isn't too bad I guess? ::)
Butler,
Creighton,
Dayton,
DePaul,
Loyola Chicago,
Marquette,
Memphis,
Nebraska ,
Notre Dame ,
Northwestern ,
Saint Louis
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6521319/2025/08/01/college-basketball-conference-realignment/ (https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6521319/2025/08/01/college-basketball-conference-realignment/)
Absolutely NOT.
The worst
ND sucks.
We already were in the Great Midwest. Not going back.
This will cost us a seed line or two. >:(
I am completely in favor, as it would make scoop interesting.
I already stopped watching Marquette basketball. But this would make me watch it less.
I didn't read the article, is st Thomas replacing us
Yuck.
Quote from: Shaka Shart on August 02, 2025, 11:56:15 PMI didn't read the article, is st Thomas replacing us
I could not read the article as it is behind a pay wall.
My subscription is running out soon.......after reading this I feel better and better about my decision to let it expire.
Quote from: MuMark on August 03, 2025, 11:52:49 AMMy subscription is running out soon.......after reading this I feel better and better about my decision to let it expire.
I cancelled the other day and they offered me a year for $10. More than happy to pay that.
And while I hate that realignment, I get it from the author. Jim Root wants to see more sensible leagues rather than super leagues like the SEC, B10, & B12 have become. Any mass realignment that does that is going to leave a number of the 79 current high majors outside the new power structure.
Looking at it, there are a few tweaks that could make it more palatable. Replace LUC & SLU with Cincy and Xavier, I'm suddenly a lot more interested. Shades of the old C-USA when it didn't suck.
Quote from: MuMark on August 03, 2025, 11:52:49 AMMy subscription is running out soon.......after reading this I feel better and better about my decision to let it expire.
Sorta had the feel of "I need a click bait story in 5 minuets Chat GPT, what do you got?".
Athletic is decent for local sports coverage but it's more volume that quality these days
The guy had to spend a fair amount of time on it, but...yecch.
BS idea.
We are a Power 5 team.
Period.
Even the Athletic realizes the return of Mike Deane level success is close at hand.
I like the OP's headline, which aims to help us all remember Stuart Scott.
few things get me as outraged as an article about things that will never happen and is only written for clicks.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on August 04, 2025, 02:40:10 PMfew things get me as outraged as an article about things that will never happen and is only written for clicks.
The irony of this post after complaining about a Marquette football tshirt having an unoriginal phrase on it...
This article single-handedly made me lose faith in journalism as a profession
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on August 04, 2025, 02:40:10 PMfew things get me as outraged as an article about things that will never happen and is only written for clicks.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on August 04, 2025, 02:40:10 PMfew things get me as outraged as an article about things that will never happen and is only written for clicks.
Yeah, it's a goofy article.
Quote from: GB Warrior on August 04, 2025, 03:02:36 PMThis article single-handedly made me lose faith in journalism as a profession
The New York Times has that effect on people. ;D
You guys are letting your pro-Marquette mentality blind you from the point of the article. It's about trimming the fat from bloated power conferences. The point is more about 16-18 team leagues abutting both coasts. Condensing them with geographic sense, natural rivalries, and round robin potential across the board.
A Big 10 that has 10 relatively close state schools makes more sense than what we have now. An SEC with teams in the Southeast, an ACC generally along the Atlantic Coast, and yes, a Big East with schools in the northeast. From natural historic rivals and regional proximity, Syracuse & Pitt make more sense there than we do.
Just because the article mentions Marquette doesn't mean it's about Marquette. It's about a realignment that makes sense broadly to college basketball fans.
And frankly, replace Loyola & SLU with Xavier & Cincy and that league would be a hell of a lot of fun, and like the old CUSA & Metro, able to compete on a national level with anyone.
Quote from: brewcity77 on August 04, 2025, 06:54:45 PMYou guys are letting your pro-Marquette mentality blind you from the point of the article. It's about trimming the fat from bloated power conferences. The point is more about 16-18 team leagues abutting both coasts. Condensing them with geographic sense, natural rivalries, and round robin potential across the board.
A Big 10 that has 10 relatively close state schools makes more sense than what we have now. An SEC with teams in the Southeast, an ACC generally along the Atlantic Coast, and yes, a Big East with schools in the northeast. From natural historic rivals and regional proximity, Syracuse & Pitt make more sense there than we do.
Just because the article mentions Marquette doesn't mean it's about Marquette. It's about a realignment that makes sense broadly to college basketball fans.
And frankly, replace Loyola & SLU with Xavier & Cincy and that league would be a hell of a lot of fun, and like the old CUSA & Metro, able to compete on a national level with anyone.
Yah, but it's just summer pablum. Would never happen now....$$$$. Why bother?
Quote from: Nukem2 on August 04, 2025, 07:01:59 PMYah, but it's just summer pablum. Would never happen now....$$$$. Why bother?
Why discuss college basketball? I mean, you logged on to Scoop. Isn't this basically what we do here?
Quote from: brewcity77 on August 04, 2025, 07:09:20 PMWhy discuss college basketball? I mean, you logged on to Scoop. Isn't this basically what we do here?
Just a silly article wishfully thinking about going to geographically centered conferences based largely on bygone history and FB relationships. Hardly, a basketball discussion?
Quote from: Nukem2 on August 04, 2025, 09:00:46 PMJust a silly article wishfully thinking about going to geographically centered conferences based largely on bygone history and FB relationships. Hardly, a basketball discussion?
Yet here you are discussing if offseason "pablum" is worth reading. Sounds like a larger waste of time than simply ignoring the entire subject actually.
Quote from: The Sultan on August 05, 2025, 07:48:13 AMYet here you are discussing if offseason "pablum" is worth reading. Sounds like a larger waste of time than simply ignoring the entire subject actually.
Mirror..mirror.... ;)
I think the conference would be fine. Lots of easy road trips. Losing MSG would suck as I love going to that tournament.
Conference schedules are too long and stale for me.
So, while on the topic of radical changes, my preference for a schedule structure would be:
-5 buy games
-10 conference games (5 home, 5 away)
-8 home&home/neutral site games
-3 game holiday tournament
-4 flex games scheduled by NCAA near end of year (ie: against similarly ranked teams from different conferences)
Quote from: CountryRoads on August 05, 2025, 11:22:42 AMI think the conference would be fine. Lots of easy road trips. Losing MSG would suck as I love going to that tournament.
Conference schedules are too long and stale for me.
So, while on the topic of radical changes, my preference for a schedule structure would be:
-5 buy games
-10 conference games (5 home, 5 away)
-8 home&home/neutral site games
-3 game holiday tournament
-4 flex games scheduled by NCAA near end of year (ie: against similarly ranked teams from different conferences)
So basically back to the GMC days. Count me in!
I think people may have missed the criteria the author used. He limited conferences to 11 or smaller and was focusing on geography. He also gave preference to original members of comferences. So for example, the B1G in his article were all original B1G teams... which removes 10 of the best programs from the midwest. Given the criteria, where he placed us makes complete sense. Only quibble would be putting X, Cincy, and maybe Louisville in our conference instead of Memphis, SLU, and one of Dayton/LUC/Nebraska. Would require some shifts in other conferences but I think it could be done
None of this is happening....
Quote from: MU86NC on August 06, 2025, 04:27:34 PMNone of this is happening....
They wouldn't write an article about something that wasn't true or happening
Quote from: MU86NC on August 06, 2025, 04:27:34 PMNone of this is happening....
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Quote from: brewcity77 on August 03, 2025, 01:28:36 PMI cancelled the other day and they offered me a year for $10. More than happy to pay that.
And while I hate that realignment, I get it from the author. Jim Root wants to see more sensible leagues rather than super leagues like the SEC, B10, & B12 have become. Any mass realignment that does that is going to leave a number of the 79 current high majors outside the new power structure.
Looking at it, there are a few tweaks that could make it more palatable. Replace LUC & SLU with Cincy and Xavier, I'm suddenly a lot more interested. Shades of the old C-USA when it didn't suck.
You're thinking too much. It's rage bait to drive engagement and cheat you out of your $10. 8-)