Not exactly surprising, but interesting nonetheless ...
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/09/health/gun-deaths-children.html
Firearm deaths of children and teenagers rose significantly in states that enacted more permissive gun laws after the Supreme Court in 2010 limited local governments' ability to restrict gun ownership, a new study has found.
In states that maintained stricter laws, firearm deaths were stable after the ruling, the researchers reported, and in some, they even declined.
Guns are the leading cause of death in the United States for people ages 1 through 17, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Dr. Jeremy Faust, an emergency room doctor at Massachusetts General Brigham Hospital in Boston, who was the study's lead author, said he was dismayed to find that most of the children's deaths were homicides and suicides.
"It's surprising how few of these are accidents," Dr. Faust said. "I always thought that a lot of pediatric mortality from guns is that somebody got into the wrong place, and I still think safe storage is important, but it's mostly homicides and suicides."
John Commerford, executive director of the NRA Institute for Legislative Action, called the study "political propaganda masquerading as scientific research."
The study, published Monday in JAMA Pediatrics, examined the 13-year period after the June 2010 Supreme Court ruling that the Second Amendment, which protects the right to bear arms, applies to state and local gun-control laws. The decision effectively limited the ability of state and local governments to regulate firearms.
The researchers classified states into three categories based on their gun laws: most permissive, permissive and strict. They used a Centers for Disease Control and Prevention database to analyze firearm mortality trends from 1999 to 2010 — before the Supreme Court ruling — and compared them with the 13-year period afterward.
Nationally, they found that the number of people under 18 who died from firearm injuries in the period after the ruling exceeded the projected figure for that time by about 7,400, with a total of about 23,000 fatalities.
But in the nine states with the strictest gun laws, youth firearm deaths did not increase. In four — California, Maryland, New York and Rhode Island — they dropped significantly.
The average age of those killed was 14, according to the study, which was coauthored by researchers from Yale New Haven Hospital, the University of California San Francisco School of Medicine and the schools of public health at University of Pittsburgh and Brown University.
Advocates for stricter gun laws praised the study, saying it expanded the evidence that gun safety laws save lives.
"We have shown in the past that states that have the strongest laws when it comes to gun policy have a gun violence rate that's 2.5 times less than the states with the weakest," said Nick Suplina, senior vice president for law and policy at Everytown for Gun Safety. "Lawmakers that refuse to take action or further loosen laws are putting kids' lives at risk.
He also said that gun safety laws had multiple benefits, reducing accidental shootings, while also preventing youth suicides and school shootings. "Three of four school shootings are committed with a weapon taken from the home of the family or a close relative," Mr. Suplina said.
Black children and teenagers had the highest firearm death rates before the 2010 ruling, as well as the largest increases in death rates in permissive states after the ruling. In states with strict gun laws, however, the pediatric firearm mortality rates in the Black population did not increase after the ruling.
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What are we doing here...
Buncha nonsense b.s.
https://crimeresearch.org/2025/06/jama-pediatrics-publishes-extremely-flawed-studied-titled-firearm-laws-and-pediatric-mortality-in-the-us/
Quote from: The Sultan on June 10, 2025, 12:18:20 PMWhat are we doing here...
Well he's having knee surgery so maybe he can blame it on the hydro
Quote from: Jay Bee on June 10, 2025, 12:38:45 PMBuncha nonsense b.s.
https://crimeresearch.org/2025/06/jama-pediatrics-publishes-extremely-flawed-studied-titled-firearm-laws-and-pediatric-mortality-in-the-us/
uh huh
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/crime-prevention-research-center/
"Lott is a prolific author for both academic and popular publications. He has published over 100 articles in peer-reviewed academic journals and written ten books, including "More Guns, Less Crime," "The Bias Against Guns," and "Freedomnomics." His most recent books are "Dumbing Down the Courts: How politics keeps the smartest judges off the bench" and "Gun Control Myths.""
Your fact checking source might be a tad biased JB
Quote from: Jay Bee on June 10, 2025, 12:38:45 PMBuncha nonsense b.s.
https://crimeresearch.org/2025/06/jama-pediatrics-publishes-extremely-flawed-studied-titled-firearm-laws-and-pediatric-mortality-in-the-us/
Speaking of nonsense bs - you take the ramblings of a gun nut organization to make your point.
I wonder if it was Ted Nugent or maybe David Clarke that came up with that nonsense.
Shame on you.
It is an important non-sports issue IMHO, and this is the Superbar. I don't think Scoop has a rule that a mass murder must have taken place to share items related to gun safety.
Quote from: MU82 on June 10, 2025, 02:12:41 PMIt is an important non-sports issue IMHO, and this is the Superbar. I don't think Scoop has a rule that a mass murder must have taken place to share items related to gun safety.
It's clearly political. You have done the same thing, on the same topic before, and it was shut down.
Quote from: The Sultan on June 10, 2025, 02:46:10 PMIt's clearly political. You have done the same thing, on the same topic before, and it was shut down.
Numerous gun-related threads have not been shut down, including the only two started since October: https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=67141.0 and https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=66661.0 (Neither of which I started.)
If you don't care to participate, you don't have to. If nobody participates, the thread will simply fade away. If you think the thread shouldn't be allowed on Scoop, report it to the moderators.
Quote from: Jay Bee on June 10, 2025, 12:38:45 PMBuncha nonsense b.s.
https://crimeresearch.org/2025/06/jama-pediatrics-publishes-extremely-flawed-studied-titled-firearm-laws-and-pediatric-mortality-in-the-us/
Lott has no credibility left on gun-related topics.
The study appears to have cherry picked data and it lacks controls. JAMA has been burned not a few times and had to retract papers.
Read Makary's book "Blind Spots"
Many of these papers presented have included victims up to 25 yrs as children and most of these deaths were gang related
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on June 11, 2025, 07:35:49 PMThe study appears to have cherry picked data and it lacks controls. JAMA has been burned not a few times and had to retract papers.
Read Makary's book "Blind Spots"
Many of these papers presented have included victims up to 25 yrs as children and most of these deaths were gang related
Litter boxes are a greater threat to our children than guns
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on June 11, 2025, 07:35:49 PMThe study appears to have cherry picked data and it lacks controls.
Show your work on this then. This isn't Dental School
Quote from: The Sultan on June 10, 2025, 02:46:10 PMIt's clearly political. You have done the same thing, on the same topic before, and it was shut down.
The MODS are on summer vacation.
Thoughts and prayers to Minnesota.
Quote from: tower912 on June 14, 2025, 09:49:33 AMThoughts and prayers to Minnesota.
I know we make light of these situations out of frustration and helplessness, but today is not the time.
This is not random.
Allowing law enforcement to hide face and identification while executing arrests was probably going to end up with something like this happening sooner rather than later.
Quote from: tower912 on June 14, 2025, 09:49:33 AMThoughts and prayers to Minnesota.
Welcome to America, led by a hate-filled man who regularly calls his rivals "scum," "enemies," "evil," etc.
My brother lives in Champlin. He said that golf course is where they always use the driving range.
I'm shocked but I'm not.
Quote from: tower912 on June 14, 2025, 09:49:33 AMThoughts and prayers to Minnesota.
It was a political assassination
Quote from: Shaka Shart on June 14, 2025, 10:58:02 AMAllowing law enforcement to hide face and identification while executing arrests was probably going to end up with something like this happening sooner rather than later.
Not the first. Won't be the last
https://www.fox29.com/news/victim-zip-tied-robbed-man-impersonating-law-enforcement-officer-philadelphia
Quote from: MU82 on June 14, 2025, 11:07:02 AMWelcome to America, led by a hate-filled man who regularly calls his rivals "scum," "enemies," "evil," etc.
This week:
The speaker of the house suggested tarring and feathering a member of the opposite party. That same member was assaulted by jackboot thugs at a speech where the Homeland Security head called for a liberation of a city and state where right wing talk radio and media have been lying about for two weeks.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on June 14, 2025, 12:48:14 PMThis week:
The speaker of the house suggested tarring and feathering a member of the opposite party. That same member was assaulted by jackboot thugs at a speech where the Homeland Security head called for a liberation of a city and state where right wing talk radio and media have been lying about for two weeks.
Truth is optional. As are rule of law, the Constitution and Jesus' teachings of compassion and kindness.
But at least evil scum is getting assassinated.
Right by me. Was in a pickleball tourney in Brooklyn Park using 4 of a lot of courts and they kicked everyone out except the tourney folks and locked the doors. Fun times.
That said, the shameful political posts some of you aholes do are ridiculous. MU82, you need a time out (permaban).
Quote from: Jay Bee on June 14, 2025, 03:57:57 PMRight by me. Was in a pickleball tourney in Brooklyn Park using 4 of a lot of courts and they kicked everyone out except the tourney folks and locked the doors. Fun times.
That said, the shameful political posts some of you aholes do are ridiculous. MU82, you need a time out (permaban).
What would Simone Biles say?
Quote from: Uncle Rico on June 14, 2025, 04:19:29 PMWhat would Simone Biles say?
"fuk whities like reeko"
Quote from: Jay Bee on June 14, 2025, 04:35:46 PM"fuk whities like reeko"
I doubt it, but it speaks way more about you thinking that's what she'd say.
Quote from: Jay Bee on June 14, 2025, 03:57:57 PMRight by me. Was in a pickleball tourney in Brooklyn Park using 4 of a lot of courts and they kicked everyone out except the tourney folks and locked the doors. Fun times.
That said, the shameful political posts some of you aholes do are ridiculous. MU82, you need a time out (permaban).
The link you posted is ridiculous and the info MU82 posted is credible. But yeah, it's a clear political post and topic.
Quote from: BM1090 on June 14, 2025, 05:31:34 PMThe link you posted is ridiculous and the info MU82 posted is credible. But yeah, it's a clear political post and topic.
tu madre
https://x.com/blueatlgeorgia/status/1934012591195500985?s=46&t=lNpN7iXqtrMrr3jfOK2gbA
#GunLaws
Quote from: Jay Bee on June 14, 2025, 06:03:55 PMhttps://x.com/blueatlgeorgia/status/1934012591195500985?s=46&t=lNpN7iXqtrMrr3jfOK2gbA
#GunLaws
Typical evangelical
Quote from: Jay Bee on June 14, 2025, 06:03:55 PMhttps://x.com/blueatlgeorgia/status/1934012591195500985?s=46&t=lNpN7iXqtrMrr3jfOK2gbA
#GunLaws
"Despite serving under Dems, Boelter last registered to vote in 2022 as a Republican."
Quote from: jesmu84 on June 14, 2025, 10:42:21 PM"Despite serving under Dems, Boelter last registered to vote in 2022 as a Republican."
I didn't think that Minnesota had political party registration.
Complaining about political posts then trying to post gotchas on what political affiliation an assassin has kinda gives away the game that you don't operate in good faith bud.
I'd be watching your line calls like a hawk on the pickleball court
Suspect in custody