One vote for Royce already in the recruiting thread. It is only 5+ months away.
It is never too soon to pick your hill to die on.
Heck, go with no one because they all stink and Shaka should have used the portal.
I think Royce, Chase, Sean, Ben, and Damarius all average double digits. I don't think any one player comes close to Kam's 19.2. I think five between 10 and 15 and I can't decide who averages 15 and who averages 13.
Quote from: tower912 on May 30, 2025, 01:22:44 PMI think Royce, Chase, Sean, and Ben, and Damarius all average double digits. I don't think any one player comes close to Kam's 19.2. I think five between 10 and 15 and I can't decide who averages 15 and who averages 13.
The last time we had 5 average double digits I think was 2016-17.
I will go with Chase Ross outta Dallas, TX for my May 2025 pick.
I'll add my vote or Royce here as well. If not him, I'd expect it to be Chase.
Nobody. We all know next year's team will be shut out since Shaka refuses to take transfers.
I think Ross at around 13ppg
Quote from: tower912 on May 30, 2025, 01:22:44 PMI think Royce, Chase, Sean, Ben, and Damarius all average double digits. I don't think any one player comes close to Kam's 19.2. I think five between 10 and 15 and I can't decide who averages 15 and who averages 13.
Royce, Chase & Zaide would be my top 3 - all in the 11-15 ppg range. Sean, Owens & Gold would be next at 7-10 ppg.
I agree no one comes close to 19.2. I would be surprised if anyone is over 16.
Chase will lead the team and score at least 16ppg. He will be the most consistent and still have some very high scoring games.
I expect a lot of up and down with Zaide,Owens and Parham. All 3 trading places between being the number 2 scorer and throwing up a stinker.
I believe Gold will be close to double digits and be consistent with his scoring.
Quote from: Jockey on May 30, 2025, 03:15:04 PMRoyce, Chase & Zaide would be my top 3 - all in the 11-15 ppg range. Sean, Owens & Gold would be next at 7-10 ppg.
I agree no one comes close to 19.2. I would be surprised if anyone is over 16.
Should be close to not scoring in the 50's this year....
67% Chase Ross
32.5% Ben Gold
11.3% Stevie mitchell
Chase. He's going to have a Wes like senior season with his shooting hand healthy now.
Chase.
Parham but hope it's Chase. Chase being an all big East type player will help immensely.
I just don't see Parham taking the leap from 5 a game to leading scorer. If it happens, probably not a great sign.
I see a seamless transition from Joplin to Parham.
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on May 30, 2025, 08:32:38 PMI just don't see Parham taking the leap from 5 a game to leading scorer. If it happens, probably not a great sign.
I guess you've never heard of Justin Lewis?
That was terrible when he increased his average by 9 PPG from his freshman to sophomore year.
I'd be pretty surprised if it wasn't Chase Ross, health permitting.
If nothing else, Chase could play 33-34+ minutes per game next season.
He will almost surely lead the team in minutes played
Nobody
Quote from: DoctorV on May 30, 2025, 08:50:37 PMI'd be pretty surprised if it wasn't Chase Ross, health permitting.
If nothing else, Chase could play 33-34+ minutes per game next season.
He will almost surely lead the team in minutes played
Barring injuries to Zaide or DO, I just don't see Chase averaging that many minutes.
Quote from: #UnleashSean on May 30, 2025, 06:33:13 PM67% Chase Ross
32.5% Ben Gold
11.3% Stevie mitchell
I'd put Otule at 3%.
Quote from: tower912 on May 30, 2025, 08:55:51 PMBarring injuries to Zaide or DO, I just don't see Chase averaging that many minutes.
How come?
He averaged 30 last season with Kam and Stevie on the roster.
-He will be the best defensive player on the roster and he is one of the most experienced.
-He will dominate the 2/3 positions in terms of minutes. He can slide to the 4 in a pinch if needed- hopefully not because we don't really have that kind of guard depth this season and the team has plenty of taller guys, albeit not bigger bodies.
-He handled the ball a lot last season and can facilitate when needed, so he can technically play the 1.
Very versatile, elite defender with experience that's an athletic freak and has ability to score.
I wouldn't be completely surprised if he avg 35+mpg tbh, but I'd expect 33+
I also don't think that what the others do will affect Chase minutes because he can play so many different roles. Zaide is great? Cool slide Chase to the 3. DO is great? OK move Chase to the 2. Both are great? Ok play Royce at the 5, DO at the 4, Chase at the 3, Zaide at the 2 and so on and so forth.
Now if all of SJ22 or Nigel and Zaide/DO take a huge step forward and earn 25mpg then it would affect Chase minutes.
All in all though Chase Ross seems pretty locked in as team leader in minutes played in 2025/26
Quote from: tower912 on May 30, 2025, 08:55:51 PMBarring injuries to Zaide or DO, I just don't see Chase averaging that many minutes.
Pretty much agree with all of your comments in this thread.
I see Chase, Zaide, DO splitting the minutes at the 2-3 relatively evenly. Plus, three of the 4 freshman are 2's or 3's. Depth at his position keeps him fresh.
DO is not a 4.
My PPG by end of season prediction
1. Zaide
2. Chase
3. Gold
4. DO
5. Royce
All over 9 ppg. I might be low on Royce but think the team is better if the young wings make the bigger scoring jump.
Quote from: Jockey on May 30, 2025, 09:11:21 PMPretty much agree with all of your comments in this thread.
#KissOfDeath
Quote from: tower912 on May 30, 2025, 01:22:44 PMOne vote for Royce already in the recruiting thread. It is only 5+ months away.
It is never too soon to pick your hill to die on.
Heck, go with no one because they all stink and Shaka should have used the portal.
I think Royce, Chase, Sean, Ben, and Damarius all average double digits. I don't think any one player comes close to Kam's 19.2. I think five between 10 and 15 and I can't decide who averages 15 and who averages 13.
Sean with double digit average without starting?
Quote from: We R Final Four on May 31, 2025, 08:08:51 AMSean with double digit average without starting?
Even if he starts, and I think he will be a season long starter presuming his knee is good again, do not at all see him being a double digit average scorer. That's not the type of player he is, and his primary roles will be setup offense, distribute, and harass on defense.
Quote from: tower912 on May 30, 2025, 09:12:55 PMI see Chase, Zaide, DO splitting the minutes at the 2-3 relatively evenly. Plus, three of the 4 freshman are 2's or 3's. Depth at his position keeps him fresh.
DO is not a 4.
There isn't really a backup 4 on the roster. Maybe Gold can play it sometimes but that depends on Hamilton and Clark being able to man the 5 for stretches.
But it will also depend on matchups against teams with two bigs. Against smaller, quicker 4s, I expect to see three switchables when Royce needs a rest. Royce might also play some minutes at the 5, meaning more 3 switchable lineups.
Ramsey
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on May 31, 2025, 08:13:21 AMEven if he starts, and I think he will be a season long starter presuming his knee is good again, do not at all see him being a double digit average scorer. That's not the type of player he is, and his primary roles will be setup offense, distribute, and harass on defense.
If you take Sean's sophomore scoring average and extrapolate it over 28 minutes per game, he would average 10.02 PPG.
Not saying that it's a guarantee, but Sean averaging double figures is within the realm of possibility.
Quote from: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on May 31, 2025, 08:58:59 AMIf you take Sean's sophomore scoring average and extrapolate it over 28 minutes per game, he would average 10.02 PPG.
Not saying that it's a guarantee, but Sean averaging double figures is within the realm of possibility.
You could extrapolate minutes for any player and create the illusion they're capable of something that defies their skill set and logic.
I feel that way about posters.
Quote from: tower912 on May 31, 2025, 09:32:11 AMI feel that way about posters.
Why are you attacking me?
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on May 31, 2025, 08:13:21 AMEven if he starts, and I think he will be a season long starter presuming his knee is good again, do not at all see him being a double digit average scorer. That's not the type of player he is, and his primary roles will be setup offense, distribute, and harass on defense.
LOL
I'm going to guess you don't really remember Sean Jones very well, then.
First, if he is fully healthy, he's going to start and play 25+ minutes per game.
Second, not only does he have the highest historical usage season of any player on the team, but Sean isn't just a passing point. His highest assist rate was 20.2%. For comparison, our last three starting PGs had assist rates of 39.8% (TKO while also averaging 12.9 ppg), 42.1% (TKO while also averaging 15.3 ppg), and 38.2% (Kam while also averaging 19.2 ppg). So the idea that Sean would not be able to create for others and average double-digits is simply incorrect.
Third, of returning players, here are the ten highest rates of Shot Percentage in a season, which is what percent of the team's shots a player took while on the floor:
1. 20.9% - Royce Parham, 2025
2. 19.9% - Sean Jones, 2024
3. 19.8% - Ben Gold, 2023
4. 17.2% - Sean Jones, 2023
5. 16.0% - Damarius Owens, 2025
6. 15.9% - Ben Gold, 2024
7. 15.9% - Tre Norman, 2024
8. 15.7% - Chase Ross, 2025
9. 15.3% - Caedin Hamilton, 2025
10. 15.1% - Chase Ross, 2023
FWIW, Ben's percentage of shots taken has gone down every year and Zaide's highest percent is 13.5%. But simply, the two guys most likely to take shots when given the opportunity are Royce and Sean. They are also both clear successors to Jop and Kam, who were the two highest volume shooters last year.
If Sean is back to being Sean, he's going to be a guy who drives, gets downhill and goes into contact at a higher rate than Kam ever did, takes the open three (but only hits in clutch moments, historically), and is as much a scoring guard as a creating one. If you're expecting him to turn into a game-managing Derrick Wilson or Junior Cadougan, you got the wrong guy.
Quote from: brewcity77 on May 31, 2025, 10:19:49 AMLOL
I'm going to guess you don't really remember Sean Jones very well, then.
First, if he is fully healthy, he's going to start and play 25+ minutes per game.
Second, not only does he have the highest historical usage season of any player on the team, but Sean isn't just a passing point. His highest assist rate was 20.2%. For comparison, our last three starting PGs had assist rates of 39.8% (TKO while also averaging 12.9 ppg), 42.1% (TKO while also averaging 15.3 ppg), and 38.2% (Kam while also averaging 19.2 ppg). So the idea that Sean would not be able to create for others and average double-digits is simply incorrect.
Third, of returning players, here are the ten highest rates of Shot Percentage in a season, which is what percent of the team's shots a player took while on the floor:
1. 20.9% - Royce Parham, 2025
2. 19.9% - Sean Jones, 2024
3. 19.8% - Ben Gold, 2023
4. 17.2% - Sean Jones, 2023
5. 16.0% - Damarius Owens, 2025
6. 15.9% - Ben Gold, 2024
7. 15.9% - Tre Norman, 2024
8. 15.7% - Chase Ross, 2025
9. 15.3% - Caedin Hamilton, 2025
10. 15.1% - Chase Ross, 2023
FWIW, Ben's percentage of shots taken has gone down every year and Zaide's highest percent is 13.5%. But simply, the two guys most likely to take shots when given the opportunity are Royce and Sean. They are also both clear successors to Jop and Kam, who were the two highest volume shooters last year.
If Sean is back to being Sean, he's going to be a guy who drives, gets downhill and goes into contact at a higher rate than Kam ever did, takes the open three (but only hits in clutch moments, historically), and is as much a scoring guard as a creating one. If you're expecting him to turn into a game-managing Derrick Wilson or Junior Cadougan, you got the wrong guy.
Last time he played, he finished at 25% from distance. Before the ACL injury, he could blow by guys, but had no go to move to finish or even get to the line much. Now he's coming back from major injury and over a year and a half off of rust on top of these pre injury limitations.
^^^ yes, and someone has to make a mark in usage. We don't have many candidates for high usage guys, but Sean is up there on the list just behind Royce.
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on May 31, 2025, 10:31:48 AMLast time he played, he finished at 25% from distance. Before the ACL injury, he could blow by guys, but had no go to move to finish or even get to the line much. Now he's coming back from major injury and over a year and a half off of rust on top of these pre injury limitations.
You could extrapolate minutes for any player and create the illusion they're capable of something that defies their skill set and logic.
What we've seen from Royce and Sean is that they are capable and willing of taking those shots. What we've seen from Ben, Chase, and Zaide is that they will defer to other players, sometimes to the team's detriment, who will take those shots.
Personally, I'm going to extrapolate based on historical logic, which indicates Royce and Sean are the two most likely to get enough shots to be among those scoring leaders. But you do you, I guess.
Quote from: brewcity77 on May 31, 2025, 10:46:40 AMWhat we've seen from Royce and Sean is that they are capable and willing of taking those shots. What we've seen from Ben, Chase, and Zaide is that they will defer to other players, sometimes to the team's detriment, who will take those shots.
Personally, I'm going to extrapolate based on historical logic, which indicates Royce and Sean are the two most likely to get enough shots to be among those scoring leaders. But you do you, I guess.
Well, the team is going to need Chase, Ben, and Zaire to be much more assertive this year. None of them should be deferring to Sean. Sean should be the 5th option on the floor with those guys and Royce.
You also keep going back to usage. The shots need to go in consistently or that will be destined to drop. So far, he hasn't shown he can do that.
Ignoring data in favor of the eye test is certainly a choice. Not the best way to predict future outcomes though.
My analysis was meant to be a simple one. Just one outcome out of all the possible outcomes. That demonstrated a reasonable way Sean could average 10 PPG.
Compare that to Tre Norman, who would average 5.98 PPG in a 28 minute per game extrapolation. That's an example of a player that is highly unlikely to average double figures in scoring.
While my analysis was pretty surface level, but Brew did a great job of using indepth data to further demonstrate how Sean averaging 10 PPG is possible.
This isn't to say anything is guaranteed, just that it is a reasonable possibility.
Sean has played 49 career games. He's been double figures in 3 of them- games of 15 and twice with 11. He's 29% from 3 in his career. He doesn't get to the line much.
He brings other things to the table but has not been and pretty unlikely to be anything resembling a reliable scorer. What I appreciate most about him offensively is he'll take and make clutch shots.
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on May 31, 2025, 11:33:40 AMWell, the team is going to need Chase, Ben, and Zaire to be much more assertive this year. None of them should be deferring to Sean. Sean should be the 5th option on the floor with those guys and Royce.
You also keep going back to usage. The shots need to go in consistently or that will be destined to drop. So far, he hasn't shown he can do that.
I keep going back to usage because that's not a number subject to wild swings. How do we know Chase is a supplementary scorer? Because we have 102 games in three years of data that proves it. How do we know Ben and Zaide pass on shots in favor of other players? Years of data.
Going back, how did we know Justin was going to break out in 2022, or Kam was going to lead the team in scoring in 2023, or Markus was going to be a monster scorer after his freshman year? Usage! Justin's 23.9% usage indicated someone who would take the lion's share of scoring over guys like Greg Elliott, Darryl Morsell, and Tyler Kolek who had more historic scoring but lower usage pedigrees that indicated they wouldn't match Justin's overall production (and they didn't). For Kam, his freshman year 22.9% of shots taken while on the court is a large part of why I predicted he'd lead us in scoring in 2023 (which he did). For Markus, his 25.4% usage as a freshman (and leading the team in scoring despite being sixth in minutes) made it obvious he was going to be a scoring monster.
I keep going back to this stuff because year after year, class after class, decade after decade, it proves to be the most reliable predictor of future production. And while Sean's past usage is an important indicator, the usage rates of Gold, Chase, and Zaide are just as important because historically players like that don't make huge scoring jumps. Do outliers happen? Sure. But if we're predicting future results, it's wholly nonsensical to predict outliers.
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on May 31, 2025, 11:46:49 AMSean has played 49 career games. He's been double figures in 3 of them- games of 15 and twice with 11. He's 29% from 3 in his career. He doesn't get to the line much.
He brings other things to the table but has not been and pretty unlikely to be anything resembling a reliable scorer. What I appreciate most about him offensively is he'll take and make clutch shots.
And Sean averaged 13.5 MPG for those 49 games. There's a decent chance his minutes double.
I don't think anyone's arguing that he needs to be more efficient. But he's going to have the ball in his hands a lot, and right now we don't have a sure thing as a go-to scorer.
I think that ends up being Royce (or Chase) but it wouldn't shock me to see Sean average low double-digits.
Additionally, in regard to his injury, I would have shared more of those concerns if he did try to come back last season. But with another offseason to get healthy and work on his game, I'm not as worried about him taking a long time to get acclimated.
And while it's certainly not the same as game intensity, it doesn't sound like he's lost his athleticism.
What's being ignored and what usage doesn't measure is Sean's a little guy- 5'10 listing is generous, who hasn't shown an ability to shoot from 3 well, finish at the rim, nor get to the line much. He's a little guy with an ineffective jump shot and can't get his shot off in the paint.
Unless his shot improves dramatically, which it might, this is why I'm not optimistic he's going to average 10 or more/ game. Here's hoping I'm wrong.
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on May 31, 2025, 01:41:46 PMWhat's being ignored and what usage doesn't measure is Sean's a little guy- 5'10 listing is generous, who hasn't shown an ability to shoot from 3 well, finish at the rim, nor get to the line much. He's a little guy with an ineffective jump shot and can't get his shot off in the paint.
Unless his shot improves dramatically, which it might, this is why I'm not optimistic he's going to average 10 or more/ game. Here's hoping I'm wrong.
Pretty confident you will be wrong. He has worked his ass off and will be a significant factor for us this season. Staff very high on him. Prepare to be surprised.
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on May 31, 2025, 01:41:46 PMWhat's being ignored and what usage doesn't measure is Sean's a little guy- 5'10 listing is generous, who hasn't shown an ability to shoot from 3 well, finish at the rim, nor get to the line much. He's a little guy with an ineffective jump shot and can't get his shot off in the paint.
Unless his shot improves dramatically, which it might, this is why I'm not optimistic he's going to average 10 or more/ game. Here's hoping I'm wrong.
Inside the arc, Sean is over 50% inside the arc and shot 57.5% at the rim. Not elite, but certainly adequate. As far as from three, he's at 28.9% for his career, but has historically shot better against quality competition (31.7% vs Tier A+B per kenpom) and in league play (40.6%). Certainly better than you're making him out to be. As far as getting to the line, only O-Max had a higher FT Rate in Sean's freshman year and only Oso and Chase had higher rates in Sean's sophomore year, so I'm really not sure where you get that he doesn't get to the line much.
Listen, I get that your feelings don't like these takes, but facts are at odds with pretty much every thing you've said here.
Quote from: brewcity77 on May 31, 2025, 02:15:31 PMInside the arc, Sean is over 50% inside the arc and shot 57.5% at the rim. Not elite, but certainly adequate. As far as from three, he's at 28.9% for his career, but has historically shot better against quality competition (31.7% vs Tier A+B per kenpom) and in league play (40.6%). Certainly better than you're making him out to be. As far as getting to the line, only O-Max had a higher FT Rate in Sean's freshman year and only Oso and Chase had higher rates in Sean's sophomore year, so I'm really not sure where you get that he doesn't get to the line much.
Listen, I get that your feelings don't like these takes, but facts are at odds with pretty much every thing you've said here.
Ok Brew. I guess we'll have to wait until March 2026 because this difference of opinions won't be settled today. I know what I've seen and there's data backing my opinion too. It's far from a lock he'll become this double digit per game weapon. But if he does, fantastic. It will likely mean more team success overall.
In the meantime, agree to disagree. I didn't expect my original post would generate such vehement disagreement. I didn't think it was all that bold of a projection.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on May 31, 2025, 08:54:12 AMRamsey
Who is this and why are they called this. You've said this so many times im taking the bait :(
Quote from: Johnny B on May 31, 2025, 03:21:27 PMWho is this and why are they called this. You've said this so many times im taking the bait :(
It's Ramsey.
I watched Sean shooting the ball this summer with my Grandson, just did look natural more of a set shot. Before you jump on what I saw, he has a year and a half to improve his shooting
Quote from: Johnny B on May 31, 2025, 03:21:27 PMWho is this and why are they called this. You've said this so many times im taking the bait :(
Willie hates Ramsey. Ask him
Ugh fml...
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on May 31, 2025, 03:12:07 PMOk Brew. I guess we'll have to wait until March 2026 because this difference of opinions won't be settled today. I know what I've seen and there's data backing my opinion too. It's far from a lock he'll become this double digit per game weapon. But if he does, fantastic. It will likely mean more team success overall.
In the meantime, agree to disagree. I didn't expect my original post would generate such vehement disagreement. I didn't think it was all that bold of a projection.
Again, I don't think anyone is expecting him to be a scoring "weapon".
Stevie averaged 10.7 PPG last season on a team with Kam, Jop, and Chase. Was he a scoring "weapon"?
Kam and Jop are gone. So it's just odd not to think there's a solid to good chance Sean will average low double figures based on team composition and expected usage, assuming he's healthy.
I'm just glad that Sean stuck around to tackle Nigel in the 1 role battle for the season.
Partly joking, from rumors
That said, I love Sean Jones. He quickly became one of my favorites. I also said that Zaide would be a fan favorite when I saw what he would bring.
However, favorites aren't what runs the show. I think Nigel will be the real deal and the 1 spot will be in great hands with SJ22 and Nigel, going about 25 and 15mpg a piece for the season as a whole, give or take.
Can't wait to see them in the same backcourt at the same time, Ala Markus and Rowsey.
All things considered though, Shaka's got his work cut out for him in keeping those two happy if the talent plays out as it should.
As for Parhams usage, make some shots young man
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on May 30, 2025, 08:47:05 PMI guess you've never heard of Justin Lewis?
That was terrible when he increased his average by 9 PPG from his freshman to sophomore year.
Or Markus. Or Sam. Or the second year at Marquette for JFB and TK.
Quote from: MU82 on June 01, 2025, 12:03:58 AMOr Markus. Or Sam. Or the second year at Marquette for JFB and TK.
I don't think that's true. Players historically don't get better while they're in college
Quote from: Uncle Rico on June 01, 2025, 08:05:29 AMI don't think that's true. Players historically don't get better while they're in college
As Al famously said, "The best thing about freshmen is that I get to recruit over them if they suck."
When Tre starts at PG day one, will scoop implode?
The only guy on the team with the attitude of a leading scorer is Parham. He's confident shooting from anywhere, and with the shot clock running down, I'd rather it's in his hands than anyone else. (due to his size and confidence)
That being said, he will probably only average 11-12, same as Chase.
Sean Jones will be around 10. Gold and the rest will follow.
The problem with this team will be that there's really no "go to" scorer.
Quote from: WarriorFan on June 01, 2025, 12:23:35 PMThe only guy on the team with the attitude of a leading scorer is Parham. He's confident shooting from anywhere, and with the shot clock running down, I'd rather it's in his hands than anyone else. (due to his size and confidence)
That being said, he will probably only average 11-12, same as Chase.
Sean Jones will be around 10. Gold and the rest will follow.
The problem with this team will be that there's really no "go to" scorer.
Still like Royce for that. A healthy Owens might surprise as he certainly can hunt shots as well.
Quote from: Jay Bee on June 01, 2025, 10:56:36 AMWhen Tre starts at PG day one, will scoop implode?
You see this happening JB? I don't but willing to listen to a compelling argument.
I have thought it possible all along. Sometimes, size matters. And Tre has also had a number of injuries that he played through. I am not saying Tre WILL start. I can see scenarios where he COULD start.
Quote from: tower912 on June 01, 2025, 06:04:37 PMI have thought it possible all along. Sometimes, size matters. And Tre has also had a number of injuries that he played through. I am not saying Tre WILL start. I can see scenarios where he COULD start.
The only reason I think it could happen is if James isn't ready to give us minutes. If James earns minutes (and we're pretty sure Sean will play a lot), I don't see any way Shaka is gonna want to have to sub-6 footers on the floor together.
But, practices will decide the issue.
Quote from: tower912 on June 01, 2025, 06:04:37 PMI have thought it possible all along. Sometimes, size matters. And Tre has also had a number of injuries that he played through. I am not saying Tre WILL start. I can see scenarios where he COULD start.
I may be giving up on him to soon. If he is a productive offensive player this year I will be pleasantly surprised and it will be great for the team. Love his size and his defense.
What will be interesting this season is that for the first time there will be open spots and competition for starting positions.
Quote from: Nukem2 on June 01, 2025, 01:35:00 PMStill like Royce for that. A healthy Owens might surprise as he certainly can hunt shots as well.
I'm not sold on Royce taking that leap next year. His shot selection was awful. Definitely hasn't seen a shot he doesn't like. If he doesn't figure that out, the leash will be short.
Quote from: Big Papi on June 01, 2025, 06:49:25 PMI'm not sold on Royce taking that leap next year. His shot selection was awful. Definitely hasn't seen a shot he doesn't like. If he doesn't figure that out, the leash will be short.
Royce will not have a short leash.
Other than Caedin, who had a short leash last season?
Quote from: Jay Bee on June 01, 2025, 10:56:36 AMWhen Tre starts at PG day one, will scoop implode?
If Tre starts I will assume it's because he is playing well......not that everyone else is so bad they can't beat out a guy who sucks.
Quote from: MuMark on June 01, 2025, 07:33:05 PMIf Tre starts I will assume it's because he is playing well......not that everyone else is so bad they can't beat out a guy who sucks.
Trusting the coach's judgment?!?!?! We will have none of that around here. Harumph.
Quote from: tower912 on June 01, 2025, 07:19:20 PMOther than Caedin, who had a short leash last season?
Tre, Zaide, Royce, Owens, Caedin all had short leashes from time to time throughout the season.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on June 01, 2025, 07:16:17 PMRoyce will not have a short leash.
Well lets hope that his shot selection improves along with his game. 3 starters gone so lots of minutes available. I think it is all a work in progress.
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on May 30, 2025, 07:07:01 PMChase. He's going to have a Wes like senior season with his shooting hand healthy now.
Only if he learns to go right.
Quote from: 79Warrior on May 31, 2025, 02:14:49 PMPretty confident you will be wrong. He has worked his ass off and will be a significant factor for us this season. Staff very high on him. Prepare to be surprised.
The staff at Ohio State?