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Title: APR Updates
Post by: Jay Bee on May 06, 2025, 12:27:19 PM
Database was updated (through 2023-24). A few of the BEast's bottom feeders are in rough shape.

DePaul is under the 930 cutline for multi-year APR and is subject to practice reductions and postseason ineligibility.  Ooops

Butler and Georgetown just above at 931. Georgetown was at 911 last year, so they may be in PICKLE for awhile. Yikes.

#mubb's multi-year at 989 - great. In 2023-24 it was 1k, meaning Oso, Tyler and gang all finished up their spring studies adequately (no surprise).
Title: Re: APR Updates
Post by: barfolomew on May 06, 2025, 12:34:42 PM
The NCAA recently announced that is now known as the Philip and Penny Knight APRTM.

Really good to see that Oregon got the highest score possible; congrats to those Student Athletes.
Title: Re: APR Updates
Post by: Billy Hoyle on May 06, 2025, 01:14:00 PM
Quote from: Jay Bee on May 06, 2025, 12:27:19 PMDatabase was updated (through 2023-24). A few of the BEast's bottom feeders are in rough shape.

DePaul is under the 930 cutline for multi-year APR and is subject to practice reductions and postseason ineligibility.  Ooops

Butler and Georgetown just above at 931. Georgetown was at 911 last year, so they may be in PICKLE for awhile. Yikes.

#mubb's multi-year at 989 - great. In 2023-24 it was 1k, meaning Oso, Tyler and gang all finished up their spring studies adequately (no surprise).

DePaul is going to be hurting for a while due to the 792 APR from 2022-23 which is going to be an anchor for two more years. They are banned from post-season play (which is like banning me from playing in the NBA next season) with practice hour limitations (usually that means a 2-4 hours a week reduction).
Title: Re: APR Updates
Post by: MU82 on May 06, 2025, 01:27:17 PM
Practice? You talkin' 'bout practice?

DePaul don't need no stinkin' practice!
Title: Re: APR Updates
Post by: #UnleashSean on May 06, 2025, 05:23:40 PM
I'm sure the apr is going to remain for a very long time  ;D
Title: Re: APR Updates
Post by: mu_hilltopper on May 06, 2025, 08:48:57 PM
I find it odd the NCAA cares about academics in the NIL era.
Title: Re: APR Updates
Post by: PointWarrior on May 06, 2025, 09:51:43 PM
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on May 06, 2025, 08:48:57 PMI find it odd the NCAA cares about academics in the NIL era.

How does the NCAA track APR for a player likes Storrs - 4 schools in 4 years?

Title: Re: APR Updates
Post by: Jay Bee on May 06, 2025, 09:54:30 PM
Quote from: PointWarrior on May 06, 2025, 09:51:43 PMHow does the NCAA track APR for a player likes Storrs - 4 schools in 4 years?



Easily. Each academic period (eg, semester) has a result.
Title: Re: APR Updates
Post by: PointWarrior on May 06, 2025, 11:33:02 PM
Quote from: Jay Bee on May 06, 2025, 09:54:30 PMEasily. Each academic period (eg, semester) has a result.

Store Storrs provides a 0 for each of 4 schools for a single year to be averaged in?
Title: Re: APR Updates
Post by: Billy Hoyle on May 07, 2025, 08:51:54 AM
Quote from: PointWarrior on May 06, 2025, 09:51:43 PMHow does the NCAA track APR for a player likes Storrs - 4 schools in 4 years?



Each athlete can earn up to 4 "points" per semester. An eligibility point (did they finish the semester eligible) and a retention point (did they return to school). If they transfer as long as they enroll immediately at another school does not lose a point (so they'd be a 3 for 3). There used to be a GPA requirement for transfers (did they have a 3.3 if they transferred to a JUCO, 2.6 if they enrolled at another four year school) but because that was suspended during COVID and HBCUs sued it was permanently thrown out.

So, in Storr's case, as long as he was eligible for the following semester, he'd get 2 points. If he returned for the second semester, he gets one, and when he transferred to another school the school does not lose a point, so he counts as a 3 for 3. Had he returned to Kansas he'd be a 4 for 4.
Title: Re: APR Updates
Post by: Jay Bee on May 07, 2025, 09:05:48 AM
Quote from: PointWarrior on May 06, 2025, 11:33:02 PMStore Storrs provides a 0 for each of 4 schools for a single year to be averaged in?

Billy covered it — but, put another way, it's possible he batted 1000 for each of the schools he was at.
Title: Re: APR Updates
Post by: MU82 on May 07, 2025, 10:40:53 AM
Akron football is banned from the postseason in 2025 after posting consecutive APR below the NCAA's minimum threshold.

Akron hasn't been to a bowl game since 2017, so few tears were likely shed.
Title: Re: APR Updates
Post by: Jay Bee on May 07, 2025, 10:58:44 AM
Quote from: MU82 on May 07, 2025, 10:40:53 AMAkron football is banned from the postseason in 2025 after posting consecutive APR below the NCAA's minimum threshold.

Akron hasn't been to a bowl game since 2017, so few tears were likely shed.

Not even a few tears. Zip.
Title: Re: APR Updates
Post by: LloydsLegs on May 07, 2025, 11:25:57 AM
Quote from: Jay Bee on May 07, 2025, 10:58:44 AMNot even a few tears. Zip.

Ugh.  ::)
Title: Re: APR Updates
Post by: Billy Hoyle on May 07, 2025, 11:44:04 AM
Quote from: Jay Bee on May 07, 2025, 09:05:48 AMBilly covered it — but, put another way, it's possible he batted 1000 for each of the schools he was at.

he would have had to, as if he left his previous school ineligible, he wouldn't be eligible for the first semester as his new one (until the inevitable lawsuit when a kid leaves Middle Tennessee State ineligible having only passed 6 credits with a 1.7 GPA for Kansas and says those awful eligibility standards are preventing his constitutional right to NIL).
Title: Re: APR Updates
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on May 07, 2025, 12:39:47 PM
Quote from: MU82 on May 07, 2025, 10:40:53 AMAkron football is banned from the postseason in 2025 after posting consecutive APR below the NCAA's minimum threshold.

Akron hasn't been to a bowl game since 2017, so few tears were likely shed.

Is this the NCAA's way for punishing The Ohio State?
Title: Re: APR Updates
Post by: Jay Bee on May 07, 2025, 01:28:00 PM
Looks like DePaul won't make the postseason the old fashioned way — sucking. Apparent errors in the reporting and likely no postseason ineligibility (except due to weak performance on the court).
Title: Re: APR Updates
Post by: brewcity77 on May 07, 2025, 07:21:06 PM
DePaul has been removed from the sub-930 category on the NCAA site. Coppin State is the only team listed. According to DePaul Twitter, there were adjustments not yet made that bring them back to eligible.
Title: Re: APR Updates
Post by: GB Warrior on May 07, 2025, 07:49:25 PM
Quote from: brewcity77 on May 07, 2025, 07:21:06 PMDePaul has been removed from the sub-930 category on the NCAA site. Coppin State is the only team listed. According to DePaul Twitter, there were adjustments not yet made that bring them back to eligible.

Who's doing the math over there, dentists?
Title: Re: APR Updates
Post by: brewcity77 on May 07, 2025, 07:58:55 PM
Quote from: GB Warrior on May 07, 2025, 07:49:25 PMWho's doing the math over there, dentists?

If that's who's running the NCAA, it explains a lot.
Title: Re: APR Updates
Post by: Jay Bee on May 07, 2025, 10:26:24 PM
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