https://x.com/draftexpress/status/1915867569296490698?s=61&t=6XPB8f4sAKmJIzxgMcsCjw
Thanks for sharing - great interview.
Excited for what comes next for Kam. Hopefully he can sneak into the 1st round but if not he'll be a 2nd round gem for some team.
Great interview, thanks for posting.
His shot looked great, with a very repeatable form and nice consistent arc.
Looking forward to seeing Kam play in the NBA. He'll always be a fave!
Tomorrow I've got my first ever pickleball singles tournament. It's a diff game and I may be in trouble. Will carry Kam's favorite quote via Shaka via Shaka's wife with me. "IN THE ABSENCE OF CONFIDENCE, FIGHT!!!"
Lucky for Kam there was no Josh Clark there to completely destroy his mid range and lay up attempts.
Quote from: Jay Bee on April 25, 2025, 05:41:26 PMTomorrow I've got my first ever pickleball singles tournament. It's a diff game and I may be in trouble. Will carry Kam's favorite quote via Shaka via Shaka's wife with me. "IN THE ABSENCE OF CONFIDENCE, FIGHT!!!"
Stay strong
Quote from: tower912 on April 26, 2025, 06:40:38 AMLucky for Kam there was no Josh Clark there to completely destroy his mid range and lay up attempts.
Clark is a bust we've been told.
If I read it on Scoop, it has to be true.
Quote from: Spotcheck Billy on April 26, 2025, 06:30:45 PMStay strong
Lost my first three matches, but fought and learned. Wound up medaling which was the goal. GROWTH was off the charts. Thank you to the Smart Family.
Question: From the interview, it sounds like Kam is currently based in NYC. How does that work with his enrollment at MU? Has he simply dropped out, with less than a semester to graduation? Does the Athletic Department support him to continue his courses this spring in order to graduate? Of course, I'm presuming he's on track to graduate, and I don't know if that's the case.
I totally get why and that his priority right now should be preparing for the draft, and so my questions are about the 'logistics' of academic work, and if he is or chooses to keep up with it.
Quote from: mug644 on April 27, 2025, 06:16:37 AMQuestion: From the interview, it sounds like Kam is currently based in NYC. How does that work with his enrollment at MU? Has he simply dropped out, with less than a semester to graduation? Does the Athletic Department support him to continue his courses this spring in order to graduate? Of course, I'm presuming he's on track to graduate, and I don't know if that's the case.
I totally get why and that his priority right now should be preparing for the draft, and so my questions are about the 'logistics' of academic work, and if he is or chooses to keep up with it.
Virtual.
Quote from: mug644 on April 27, 2025, 06:16:37 AMQuestion: From the interview, it sounds like Kam is currently based in NYC. How does that work with his enrollment at MU? Has he simply dropped out, with less than a semester to graduation? Does the Athletic Department support him to continue his courses this spring in order to graduate? Of course, I'm presuming he's on track to graduate, and I don't know if that's the case.
I totally get why and that his priority right now should be preparing for the draft, and so my questions are about the 'logistics' of academic work, and if he is or chooses to keep up with it.
With summer courses every year it's possible he's already finished his coursework.
Quote from: #UnleashSean on April 27, 2025, 07:21:15 AMWith summer courses every year it's possible he's already finished his coursework.
No. He played during the spring semester. He wasn't not enrolled in classes, bruh
#APRnightmare
Quote from: tower912 on April 26, 2025, 06:42:05 PMIf I read it on Scoop, it has to be true.
Which is why Sean is transferring.
Kam invited to the combine as expected
https://x.com/draftexpress/status/1918436702894596418?s=61&t=6XPB8f4sAKmJIzxgMcsCjw
NBADRAFT.NET Today has Kam Jones going #42 to Sacramento*
Quote from: Spotcheck Billy on April 26, 2025, 06:30:45 PMStay strong
Quote from: Jay Bee on April 25, 2025, 05:41:26 PMTomorrow I've got my first ever pickleball singles tournament. It's a diff game and I may be in trouble. Will carry Kam's favorite quote via Shaka via Shaka's wife with me. "IN THE ABSENCE OF CONFIDENCE, FIGHT!!!"
Singles Pickleball is more like tennis. Play more baseline and the player who moves their opponent has the advantage. Only charge the net when you have a sure put away shot.
Quote from: Class71 on May 09, 2025, 06:23:26 PMSingles Pickleball is more like tennis. Play more baseline and the player who moves their opponent has the advantage. Only charge the net when you have a sure put away shot.
Thanks for telling me NOW! lol
It was another humbling experience. First game I got rocked. Learned a TON during the tourney and somehow cane away with a medal (bronze). Very fun and I hope to play more singles. I think I can get fairly good, especially if I'm in 50+ divisions.
Nobody cared about pickleball in your look at me pickleball thread. Certainly nobody cares about pickleball in the Kam Jones update thread.
Quote from: Class71 on May 09, 2025, 06:23:26 PMSingles Pickleball is more like tennis. Play more baseline and the player who moves their opponent has the advantage. Only charge the net when you have a sure put away shot.
Pickleball is like tennis the same way half court basketball with 8 foot rims is like basketball.
It is nothing like it.
Quote from: wadesworld on May 09, 2025, 08:21:57 PMNobody cared about pickleball in your look at me pickleball thread. Certainly nobody cares about pickleball in the Kam Jones update thread.
You're a cuck.
Quote from: Class71 on May 09, 2025, 06:23:26 PMSingles Pickleball is more like tennis. Play more baseline and the player who moves their opponent has the advantage. Only charge the net when you have a sure put away shot.
Except 1/50th of the cardio
Quote from: Shaka Shart on May 11, 2025, 05:45:31 PMExcept 1/50th of the cardio
Patently false.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/toddboss/2024/07/22/the-workout-value-of-pickleball-compared-to-other-racquet-sports/
(subtle redirect)
Hollinger has Kam #10 in his top prospects under "Time to get Weird" category. Discouraged by his "eye test in warm-ups" which seems a bit odd.
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6344540/2025/05/12/nba-draft-2025-prospects-cooper-flagg-dylan-harper/
Quote from: Spaniel with a Short Tail on May 12, 2025, 07:57:00 AM(subtle redirect)
Hollinger has Kam #10 in his top prospects under "Time to get Weird" category. Discouraged by his "eye test in warm-ups" which seems a bit odd.
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6344540/2025/05/12/nba-draft-2025-prospects-cooper-flagg-dylan-harper/
Just to provide a little more context ...
Hollinger was over-the-top praising just about every facet of Kam's game and says he sees Kam as a first-round talent. But he ended his report with this paragraph:
I'd be even more bullish on Jones were it not for his questionable shooting. He slumped to 31.1 percent from 3 this year and made just 67.1 percent from the line in his four-year career. The eye test in warm-ups when I saw Marquette was similarly discouraging. He did make 40.6 percent from 3 a year earlier playing next to the Knicks' Tyler Kolek and had to take tougher 3s off the dribble this season, but players of his size need to make 3s off the dribble consistently.Yes, the eye-test part was a little bizarre, but maybe that's really a thing for scouts (which is what Hollinger used to be)? Otherwise, everything in that paragraph should ring true to those of us who saw every game Kam played the last 4 years.
Quote from: MU82 on May 12, 2025, 10:13:25 AMYes, the eye-test part was a little bizarre, but maybe that's really a thing for scouts (which is what Hollinger used to be)? Otherwise, everything in that paragraph should ring true to those of us who saw every game Kam played the last 4 years.
Hollinger saw him smiling and laughing after he missed a three in warmups.
The death knell to his draft prospects.
So is Hollinger predicting that Kam will go 10th or is this just who he personally likes?
I don't see him going anywhere near that high based on anything I've read.
I'm hoping he sneaks into the first round.
His high-fives were lackluster as well.
Kam was a 1st round pick in early January, and a mid 2nd round pick by the time the Lobos finished us off. Just hoping that he has a long, lucrative career and gives generously to our NIL fund.
Quote from: MuMark on May 12, 2025, 11:43:36 AMSo is Hollinger predicting that Kam will go 10th
Definitely not. Hollinger had a bunch of categories, and Kam was #10 in his "Time To Get Weird" category.
Hollinger did say he thought Kam was a first-round talent. But as you and others have noted, Kam has fallen into the second round of most mock drafts.
Quote from: Jay Bee on May 12, 2025, 06:58:43 AMPatently false.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/toddboss/2024/07/22/the-workout-value-of-pickleball-compared-to-other-racquet-sports/
The difference between 3.5 to 4.5 in tennis is absolutely enormous. The guy using his admittedly much lower tennis ability then only the highest end of that spectrum of pickleball to compare is disingenuous at best.
I barely break a sweat at 4.0 pickleball bruh. Over three times as large a space to cover and much more body to use to generate power!
That is like comparing Kam's stats vs Stonehill and Kam's stats vs Wisconsin.
How is Kam's pickleball game? Maybe we'll find out on the Superbar.
Quote from: MU82 on May 12, 2025, 02:53:31 PMHow is Kam's pickleball game? Maybe we'll find out on the Superbar.
With his length he could basically stop moving all together in doubles.
Updated Yesterday Bleacher Report Has Kam Jones going in the 1ST ROUND
27. Atlanta Hawks (via Lakers): Kam Jones (Marquette, PG/SG)
Quote from: Shaka Shart on May 12, 2025, 02:55:53 PMWith his length he could basically stop moving all together in doubles.
Pawz
I could make you sweat playing pickleball. (Pawz)
Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on May 12, 2025, 03:22:48 PMUpdated Yesterday Bleacher Report Has Kam Jones going in the 1ST ROUND
27. Atlanta Hawks (via Lakers): Kam Jones (Marquette, PG/SG)
Would love this. Might actually make the long trek to a few games
Quote from: Jay Bee on May 12, 2025, 05:50:54 PMPawz
I could make you sweat playing pickleball. (Pawz)
😏😉😏
Quote from: Jay Bee on May 12, 2025, 05:50:54 PMPawz
I could make you sweat playing pickleball. (Pawz)
To reiterate, no one cares.
https://x.com/jonchep/status/1922103579818553390?s=46
Really good measurements for him
Hollinger has Kam #10 overall prospect. Specifically highlighted his role last year as a PG, to put him more as a combo guard and up his value.
Quote from: MUDPT on May 13, 2025, 05:59:55 AMHollinger has Kam #10 overall prospect. Specifically highlighted his role last year as a PG, to put him more as a combo guard and up his value.
He has Collin Murray-Boyles at #10. He has Kam Jones at #34 and Kam is #10 in the "its time to get weird" category.
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6344540/2025/05/12/nba-draft-2025-prospects-cooper-flagg-dylan-harper/?source=twitterhq
https://x.com/TheAthletic/status/1921973788847309202
Quote from: MUbiz on May 13, 2025, 09:44:14 AMHe has Collin Murray-Boyles at #10. He has Kam Jones at #34 and Kam is #10 in the "its time to get weird" category.
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6344540/2025/05/12/nba-draft-2025-prospects-cooper-flagg-dylan-harper/?source=twitterhq
https://x.com/TheAthletic/status/1921973788847309202
No.
Vecenie had Murray- Boyles at 10 and Kam at 34. Hollinger literally has him as #10 in his top 20ish prospects.
Quote from: MUDPT on May 13, 2025, 11:57:33 AMNo.
Vecenie had Murray- Boyles at 10 and Kam at 34. Hollinger literally has him as #10 in his top 20ish prospects.
Kam is in the "Tier 3 time to get weird" category at #10. Hollinger is smoking something good with that. Not a chance Kam goes #10 overall. I can believe Kam going #34 overall.
Kam just had to pull himself out of the scrimmage with some sort of injury.......i didn't see what it was.
https://x.com/draftexpress/status/1922770707248803854?s=61&t=6XPB8f4sAKmJIzxgMcsCjw
Damn....was hoping for an OMax effort today. Hopefully it's nothing serious.
Quote from: MuMark on May 14, 2025, 04:38:16 PMKam just had to pull himself out of the scrimmage with some sort of injury.......i didn't see what it was.
https://x.com/draftexpress/status/1922770707248803854?s=61&t=6XPB8f4sAKmJIzxgMcsCjw
Fk. Very upsetting.
Hate that Raynaud had a big game. Was hoping he'd fall to late 2nd for the Bucks.
https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/college/marquette/2025/05/15/marquettes-kam-jones-became-nba-prospect-under-shaka-smart/83620769007/
Quote from: Shaka Shart on May 11, 2025, 05:45:31 PMExcept 1/50th of the cardio
And 3 times the knee injuries.
Quote from: We R Final Four on May 14, 2025, 07:16:25 PMDamn....was hoping for an OMax effort today. Hopefully it's nothing serious.
Kam said it's a very minor hamstring tweak.
DNP?
Hollinger's final notes from the NBA Combine weren't grand for Kam:
I'm a huge fan of Marquette's Kam Jones, but this wasn't his week. He had just seven points in 18 minutes in his one scrimmage before pulling out with a hamstring injury. Measuring at 6-3 1/4 in socks with a meh 6-6 wingspan, and pulling off a meager 24 1/2-inch no-step vertical, Jones had to shine on the court to offset his iffy measurables, and it didn't happen.
Quote from: MU82 on May 20, 2025, 08:46:16 AMHollinger's final notes from the NBA Combine weren't grand for Kam:
I'm a huge fan of Marquette's Kam Jones, but this wasn't his week. He had just seven points in 18 minutes in his one scrimmage before pulling out with a hamstring injury. Measuring at 6-3 1/4 in socks with a meh 6-6 wingspan, and pulling off a meager 24 1/2-inch no-step vertical, Jones had to shine on the court to offset his iffy measurables, and it didn't happen.
Sounds like a guard version of Kyle Anderson.
Kam Jones is the #47 Prospect in ESPN's new draft rankings.
33. Ryan Kalkbrenner, C, Creighton | Age:
34. Yanic Konan Niederhauser, C, Penn St |
35. Hansen Yang, C, Qingdao | Age: 19.9
36. Alex Toohey, SF/PF, Sydney | Age: 21
37. Chaz Lanier, SG, Tennessee | Age: 23.4
38. Bogoljub Markovic, PF/C, Mega Superbet |
39. Jamir Watkins, SG/SF, Florida St | Age:
40. Johni Broome, C, Auburn | Age: 22.8
41. Rocco Zikarsky, C, Brisbane | Age: 18.8
42. John Tonje, SF, Wisconsin Age: 24
43. Tyrese Proctor, PG, Duke | Age: 21.1
44. Michael Ruzic, PF/C, Joventut | Age: 18.6
45. Eric Dixon, PF, Villanova | Age: 24.3
46. Sion James, SF, Duke | Age: 22.4
47. Kam Jones, PG/SG, Marquette | Age: 23.2
48. Koby Brea, SG/SF, Kentucky | Age: 22.5
49. Javon Small, PG, West Virginia | Age: 22
50. Vladislav Goldin, C, Michigan | Age: 24
51. Neoklis Avdalas, SE, Peristeri | Age: 19
52. Lachlan Olbrich, PF/C, Illawarra | Age:
53. Viktor Lakhin, C, Clemson | Age: 23.8
54. Mouhamed Faye, C, Reggio Emilia | Age:
55. Kobe Sanders, SG/SF, Nevada | Age: 22.9
56. Dink Pate, SG/SF, Mexico City | Age: 19.2
57. Micah Peavy, SG/SF, Georgetown | Age: 23
58. Hunter Sallis, SG, Wake Forest | Age: 22
59. RJ Luis, SF/PF, St. John's | Age: 22.5
NBADRAFT.NET
AS OF June 1st
Has Kam Jones going #49 to the Cleveland Cavaliers
Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on June 02, 2025, 12:51:11 AMKam Jones is the #47 Prospect in ESPN's new draft rankings.
33. Ryan Kalkbrenner, C, Creighton | Age:
34. Yanic Konan Niederhauser, C, Penn St |
35. Hansen Yang, C, Qingdao | Age: 19.9
36. Alex Toohey, SF/PF, Sydney | Age: 21
37. Chaz Lanier, SG, Tennessee | Age: 23.4
38. Bogoljub Markovic, PF/C, Mega Superbet |
39. Jamir Watkins, SG/SF, Florida St | Age:
40. Johni Broome, C, Auburn | Age: 22.8
41. Rocco Zikarsky, C, Brisbane | Age: 18.8
42. John Tonje, SF, Wisconsin Age: 24
43. Tyrese Proctor, PG, Duke | Age: 21.1
44. Michael Ruzic, PF/C, Joventut | Age: 18.6
45. Eric Dixon, PF, Villanova | Age: 24.3
46. Sion James, SF, Duke | Age: 22.4
47. Kam Jones, PG/SG, Marquette | Age: 23.2
48. Koby Brea, SG/SF, Kentucky | Age: 22.5
49. Javon Small, PG, West Virginia | Age: 22
50. Vladislav Goldin, C, Michigan | Age: 24
51. Neoklis Avdalas, SE, Peristeri | Age: 19
52. Lachlan Olbrich, PF/C, Illawarra | Age:
53. Viktor Lakhin, C, Clemson | Age: 23.8
54. Mouhamed Faye, C, Reggio Emilia | Age:
55. Kobe Sanders, SG/SF, Nevada | Age: 22.9
56. Dink Pate, SG/SF, Mexico City | Age: 19.2
57. Micah Peavy, SG/SF, Georgetown | Age: 23
58. Hunter Sallis, SG, Wake Forest | Age: 22
59. RJ Luis, SF/PF, St. John's | Age: 22.5
Behind Tonje. Gard gets it done
Quote from: Uncle Rico on June 02, 2025, 06:52:18 AMBehind Tonje. Gard gets it done
I'm shocked Kam was rated higher in Mocks all year. Tonje is bigger (1.5"), stronger, better wingspan and standing reach, better leaper, more athletic, and a better 3-point shooter.
I expect he will continue to rise. Kam has to show teams in visits that he is a knockdown 3 point shooter to maintain his status as early to mid 2nd.
Quote from: Jockey on June 02, 2025, 12:24:12 PMI'm shocked Kam was rated higher in Mocks all year. Tonje is bigger (1.5"), stronger, better wingspan and standing reach, better leaper, more athletic, and a better 3-point shooter.
I expect he will continue to rise. Kam has to show teams in visits that he is a knockdown 3 point shooter to maintain his status as early to mid 2nd.
The Gard Factor matters, too
Quote from: Jockey on June 02, 2025, 12:24:12 PMTonje is bigger (1.5")
pawz, but Tonje sucks
Undersized 24 yo bowling ball who only has a good offensive season once he was playing kids 5 years younger than him.
Quote from: Jay Bee on June 02, 2025, 01:19:50 PMpawz, but Tonje sucks
Undersized 24 yo bowling ball who only has a good offensive season once he was playing kids 5 years younger than him.
We'll see in a couple weeks. If he was 20, he'd be a 1st. I expect early 2nd.
Quote from: Jockey on June 02, 2025, 02:59:19 PMWe'll see in a couple weeks. If he was 20, he'd be a 1st. I expect early 2nd.
When he was 20.....he wasnt good enough to be in the draft.
Quote from: We R Final Four on June 02, 2025, 03:50:52 PMWhen he was 20.....he wasnt good enough to be in the deadt.
True, but neither was Kam.
Quote from: Jockey on June 02, 2025, 12:24:12 PMI'm shocked Kam was rated higher in Mocks all year. Tonje is bigger (1.5"), stronger, better wingspan and standing reach, better leaper, more athletic, and a better 3-point shooter.
I expect he will continue to rise. Kam has to show teams in visits that he is a knockdown 3 point shooter to maintain his status as early to mid 2nd.
The stats and measurables for Tonje are solid to good. I think the problem is that he doesn't really do anything on the court at an NBA level. I don't see anything that translates.
Quote from: BM1090 on June 03, 2025, 02:02:10 AMThe stats and measurables for Tonje are solid to good. I think the problem is that he doesn't really do anything on the court at an NBA level. I don't see anything that translates.
Agree. Meanwhile, Kam is seen as a combo guard who mostly excelled when playing PG for an NCAA tournament team. Unfortunately, his poor shooting in the BE season dropped him out of the first round.
Quote from: BM1090 on June 03, 2025, 02:02:10 AMThe stats and measurables for Tonje are solid to good. I think the problem is that he doesn't really do anything on the court at an NBA level. I don't see anything that translates.
Johnny Davis: "Hold my beer."
Quote from: BM1090 on June 03, 2025, 02:02:10 AMThe stats and measurables for Tonje are solid to good. I think the problem is that he doesn't really do anything on the court at an NBA level. I don't see anything that translates.
Well, he shoots free throws well. But that's about it.
With the draft approaching, The Athletic's Sam Vecenie has come out with his final top-100 ratings and guide.
He has Kam ranked #32 overall, in his 6th Tier that he labels, "Second round guarantee swings." Vecenie raves about Kam's all-around offensive game, footwork, and improvement every year at Marquette. He said Kam's 3-point decline as a senior shouldn't be viewed too negatively because his on-ball responsibilities affected him, he still made 37% of his catch-and-shoot 3s, and his 4-year record showed "he should still be relied on to make shots." Vecenie also called him "one of the best guard finishers" in college hoops.
Vecenie's main concern is that Kam is not a great athlete and could have trouble getting to his most advantageous spots in the NBA. He also said Kam was only an OK defender.
All in all, I thought it was a fair assessment.
Others of note: Knueppel is #3; Queen is #11; Sorber is #14 (top-rated Big East player); McNeeley is #21; Kalkbrenner is #26; Tonje is #35; Broome is #40; Hepburn is #56; Luis is #58; Dixon is #67; Richmond is #80; Patrick McCaffrey is #100.
Quote from: MU82 on June 11, 2025, 04:56:02 PMWith the draft a week away, The Athletic's Sam Vecenie has come out with his final top-100 ratings and guide.
He has Kam ranked #32 overall, in his 6th Tier that he labels, "Second round guarantee swings." Vecenie raves about Kam's all-around offensive game, footwork, and improvement every year at Marquette. He said Kam's 3-point decline as a senior shouldn't be viewed too negatively because his on-ball responsibilities affected him, he still made 37% of his catch-and-shoot 3s, and his 4-year record showed "he should still be relied on to make shots." Vecenie also called him "one of the best guard finishers" in college hoops.
Vecenie's main concern is that Kam is not a great athlete and could have trouble getting to his most advantageous spots in the NBA. He also said Kam was only an OK defender.
All in all, I thought it was a fair assessment.
Others of note: Knueppel is #3; Queen is #11; Sorber is #14 (top-rated Big East player); McNeeley is #21; Kalkbrenner is #26; Tonje is #35; Broome is #40; Hepburn is #56; Luis is #58; Dixon is #67; Richmond is #80; Patrick McCaffrey is #100.
*Two weeks away
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on June 11, 2025, 06:38:57 PM*Two weeks away
Perhaps you haven't noticed, but MU82 lives on a different planet.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on June 11, 2025, 06:38:57 PM*Two weeks away
Thanks. I made an error. Which means I live on a different planet.
Vecenie also has come out with a mock draft, and he has Kam going #32 (second pick in the second round) to Boston.
Yahoo Sports' NBA guy Kevin O'Connor has Kam going 42nd overall to the Kings. His assessment:
Jones offers crafty combo guard skills with advanced shot creation and a blossoming playmaking feel. But his so-so athleticism and streaky shooting paint him as just a cog rather than the rare star upperclassmen set to enter the league.
His NBA comp is Donte DiVincenzo. Hmm.
Quote from: MU82 on June 13, 2025, 11:47:21 AMYahoo Sports' NBA guy Kevin O'Connor has Kam going 42nd overall to the Kings. His assessment:
Jones offers crafty combo guard skills with advanced shot creation and a blossoming playmaking feel. But his so-so athleticism and streaky shooting paint him as just a cog rather than the rare star upperclassmen set to enter the league.
His NBA comp is Donte DiVincenzo. Hmm.
That seems like an odd comp, seeing how DiVincenzo's athleticism is his greatest asset.
Quote from: BrewCity83 on June 13, 2025, 03:00:36 PMThat seems like an odd comp, seeing how DiVincenzo's athleticism is his greatest asset.
Exactly what I was going to post.
ESPN 2025 Mock Draft Today has Kam Jones going to the Orlando Magic with pick #46.
Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on June 18, 2025, 04:43:32 PMESPN 2025 Mock Draft Today has Kam Jones going to the Orlando Magic with pick #46.
Should have come back another year
NBADRAFT.NET Today has Kam Jones going to the Chicago Bulls with pick #45
Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on June 18, 2025, 05:56:04 PMNBADRAFT.NET Today has Kam Jones going to the Chicago Bulls with pick #45
As a Bulls fan, I hope Kam has the good fortune to go elsewhere.
The Athletic has a scouting report where they combine voices of a number of coaches
32. Marquette wing Kam Jones
He's transitioning into being a true point guard. His passing really improved this past year. His shotmaking really did not. I think he's an elite-level finisher. He has a great touch, and obviously a lot of it is left-hand-dominant, but I believe in his finishing. His two-point scoring improved a lot as his career went on. Obviously he won't be able to get as deep as he was able to in college in the NBA because of the size, but he also can pass.
I'm concerned about his overall shooting. I think he'll be an off-the-bench guy, and his ceiling, if his shooting can come around, could be better than that. He's not very big. He has to get stronger just to compete against the size that exists in that league. So he's going to have to guard points and he's gonna have to continue to develop his playmaking and his shooting has to improve.
Quote from: MuMark on June 20, 2025, 11:43:03 AMThe Athletic has a scouting report where they combine voices of a number of coaches
He's not very big. He has to get stronger just to compete against the size that exists in that league. So he's going to have to guard points and he's gonna have to continue to develop his playmaking and his shooting has to improve.
I think he is stronger than people think. As for his size, I had an earlier post comparing his size (very similar) to some of the top '2' guards in the League. He is taller than the majority of PGs in the NBA. Listed heights are generally useless.
Of course I got a lot of criticism because people don't read well - they thought I was actually comparing Kam's game to these guys when I was ONLY pointing out that his size will not be the reason he makes it or not in the NBA.
His athleticism may be a problem - his size will not be.
Good luck, young man. Thank you for all you did at and for MU. May you hear your name called on Wednesday night.
NBADRAFTNET Has Kam Jones going to the Chicago Bulls with pick #45 Again Today
NBADRAFT.NET
https://x.com/marquettembb/status/1937515708188897689?s=61&t=6XPB8f4sAKmJIzxgMcsCjw
Quote from: tower912 on June 24, 2025, 05:52:31 AMGood luck, young man. Thank you for all you did at and for MU. May you hear your name called on Wednesday night.
I think he will also be a great ambassador for MU - similar to DWade.
Hopefully he goes to the right place for him! Better to go late and get a chance to actually impact the game.
Great representative of MU. Rooting for him.
Quote from: MuMark on June 24, 2025, 10:47:57 AMhttps://x.com/marquettembb/status/1937515708188897689?s=61&t=6XPB8f4sAKmJIzxgMcsCjw
Gotta start using caps for "The AL". This Al AI crap is misleading :)
From John Hollinger (he has Kam at #17 overall).
I've had Jones rated as a first-rounder for the last three years and have just been waiting for him to declare, which he finally did after his senior year at Marquette. Jones will be 23 on draft night, making him four years older than most of the one-and-dones on this list, but he was also massively more productive in college than all of them except Flagg.
That said, I did move down Jones from 10th in my orginial board to 17th on my final one, after he measured small at the combine (6-3 in socks with a 6-6 wingspan), posted just a 24-inch standing vertical and underwhelmed in the on-court portion before departing with a hamstring injury.
Jones combines plus finishing in the basket area with elite passing, making him either a tricky secondary scorer or a plus bench creator. His career 59.3 percent mark on 2s is exceptional for a small guard, and he moved to point guard this season and handed out more than three assists for every turnover.
Those numbers came even in a shooting-starved lineup that deprived him of both spacing and assists, and his work on the ball provides encouragement for scouts worried that he's too small to play shooting guard full-time and too left-handed to play point guard. Instead, the opposite appears true: He's a pure combo who can slot in at either spot (exactly what I have said).
I'd be more bullish on Jones were it not for his questionable shooting. He slumped to 31.1 percent from 3 this year and made just 67.1 percent from the line in his four-year career. The eye test in warm-ups when I saw Marquette was similarly discouraging. He did make 40.6 percent from 3 a year earlier playing next to the Knicks' Tyler Kolek and had to take tougher 3s off the dribble this season, but players of his size need to make 3s off the dribble consistently.
My opinion is that Kam goes in the 35-45 range. I hope I am wrong.
Where do others think he will fall?
I'll go with 25-35 range, end of 1sr rd or early 2nd
NBADRAFT.NET Today has Kam Jones going to the Memphis Grizzlies with pick #48
NBADRAFT.NET
If Kam falls, the Bucks will trade up for him.
When the last time the Bucks have drafted a MU player?
Another Wojo recruit to the Association
CBS and ESPN both mocking Kam #46 to Orlando.
The Athletic has him going to Indy at #38.
Quote from: marqfan22 on June 26, 2025, 09:07:42 AMWhen the last time the Bucks have drafted a MU player?
I believe they drafted Lloyd Walton, but I do not know if that was the most recent instance.
The Dream: TWolves trade down a bit and draft Killa Kam
I'm hoping the Pistons get him at 37 (I think).
He'd actually be a great fit as a backup to Cade and/or combo scoring guard with Cade
Quote from: Zog from Margo on June 26, 2025, 10:17:01 AMI believe they drafted Lloyd Walton, but I do not know if that was the most recent instance.
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Quote from: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on June 26, 2025, 09:36:51 AMCBS and ESPN both mocking Kam #46 to Orlando.
Not sure why they'd mock him. That's a very respectable draft position.
He's one of my personal favorites ever to wear an MU uniform, as were Kolek and Oso. Don't pretend to know much about the NBA or where he might fit, just hope he goes to a team where he can stick and eventually get some PT.
Quote from: Jay Bee on June 26, 2025, 10:20:20 AMThe Dream: TWolves trade down a bit and draft Killa Kam
We traded down to 36. Now, let's go get Kam.
Is Kam there?
Quote from: MuggsyB on June 26, 2025, 07:33:34 PMIs Kam there?
https://x.com/NBADraft/status/1938387757510132151?t=bAGtKDDrQ9lRaJYxZuYQBw&s=19
He's not getting drafted. Should have come back another year. SMDH
Kam to Wemby!
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Traded to Pacers
https://x.com/marquettembb/status/1938400844447191172?s=61&t=6XPB8f4sAKmJIzxgMcsCjw
Kam + Sophie = item by end of 2025
Great for Kam , and Marquette!
Quote from: MuMark on June 26, 2025, 07:57:41 PMTraded to Pacers
https://x.com/marquettembb/status/1938400844447191172?s=61&t=6XPB8f4sAKmJIzxgMcsCjw
Oh....wow. TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITY!
Kudos to Kam! Also great to see Shaka there to share the moment.
Congratulations Awesome Kam!!
Bummer. The utter dislike I've developed for the Pacers over the last month or so was starting to feel natural.
Oh well, happy for Kam
Congrats to Wojo getting another player to the NBA
Congrats Kam!
4 picks in 3 years....Congrats Shaka!
Quote from: Uncle Rico on June 26, 2025, 08:12:48 PMCongrats to Wojo getting another player to the NBA
More in spite of Wojo? ;)
Quote from: MUEng92 on June 26, 2025, 08:12:32 PMBummer. The utter dislike I've developed for the Pacers over the last month or so was starting to feel natural.
Oh well, happy for Kam
He should get some mins with Hali out.
Congratulations, Kam.
Awesome to see. Any other MU teams have 4 players drafted?
Quote from: CountryRoads on June 26, 2025, 09:18:18 PMAwesome to see. Any other MU teams have 4 players drafted?
National championship team had 8 players drafted
Talked with Kam at the Banquet a year ago told him he would be the star this year. He started dancing and spun around. Happy it worked out for Kam.
Quote from: romey on June 26, 2025, 09:39:06 PMNational championship team had 8 players drafted
Just for perspective and not to compare teams, but the NBA draft did have 10 rounds back then and no international players. The 77 team had 4 players taken in the first two rounds.
I think that Kam had so much pressure on him this season that playing off the ball more and with much better players could help him. He'll have WAY more space to operate, and the kid can get buckets. He obviously has to find his spot triple again, but maybe that Kam we saw at Maryland breaks out?
Being healthy, not having an injured shooting wrist, a healed hamstring, will probably help, too.
Quote from: tower912 on June 27, 2025, 07:23:41 AMBeing healthy, not having an injured shooting wrist, a healed hamstring, will probably help, too.
Can he finish in the paint? Guard flamethrowing 2's?
You watched the same 4 years I did.
Quote from: tower912 on June 27, 2025, 07:35:02 AMYou watched the same 4 years I did.
Muggsy doesn't believe in TVs
Quote from: tower912 on June 27, 2025, 07:23:41 AMBeing healthy, not having an injured shooting wrist, a healed hamstring, will probably help, too.
Maybe. If you think getting through an MU or Big East season is a challenge just wait for NBA. The ability for these athletes to play at a high level despite injuries is important.
Quote from: tower912 on June 27, 2025, 07:35:02 AMYou watched the same 4 years I did.
NBA is going to be a lot different, and why I am skeptical his game will translate.
I think he will be a role player. I doubt he will be a starter.
It will come down to shooting for Kam.
Quote from: tower912 on June 27, 2025, 07:52:50 AMI think he will be a role player. I doubt he will be a starter.
It will come down to shooting for Kam.
Which is exactly why I don't think its going to work.
The Athletic likes the fit with the Pacers. Concern about his shooting the biggest X factor. Hollinger thinks there's a chance for him to be in the guard rotation with Halliburton injury.
I do not think that health will be an issue for Kam. He will no longer have Todd Smith mismanaging his training.
Quote from: PJDunn on June 27, 2025, 10:12:39 AMI do not think that health will be an issue for Kam. He will no longer have Todd Smith mismanaging his training.
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Quote from: The Sultan on June 27, 2025, 10:13:54 AM::) ::) ::)
Todd should have injected Cam's wrists with that stuff that got into Peter Parker.
Trolling sarcasm.
Quote from: MU90620 on June 27, 2025, 04:23:15 AMJust for perspective and not to compare teams, but the NBA draft did have 10 rounds back then and no international players. The 77 team had 4 players taken in the first two rounds.
Correct. Fewer teams also (22) but there was a lot of talent on that roster nonetheless.
Pelton at ESPN gave the Pacers an A grade for drafting Kam.
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/45585239/2025-nba-draft-grades-winners-losers-sleepers-best-picks-value-reaches-all-30-teams-classes
Quote from: Uncle Rico on June 27, 2025, 07:36:25 AMMuggsy doesn't believe in TVs
TV's aren't part of his 5 point plan.
Quote from: MuggsyB on June 27, 2025, 07:32:35 AMCan he finish in the paint? Guard flamethrowing 2's?
Nobody in the NBA can guard flamethrowing 2 guards.
Quote from: Jockey on June 29, 2025, 10:44:28 AMNobody in the NBA can guard flamethrowing 2 guards.
Especially because, yanno, the fire.
Jop gets a summer league spot with the Bucks
https://x.com/bensteelemjs/status/1939350068252803077?s=61&t=6XPB8f4sAKmJIzxgMcsCjw
Good luck to Joplin.
I'd like to see Jop get a 2-way.
Really worked hard at MU.
Quote from: Jockey on June 29, 2025, 12:30:31 PMI'd like to see Jop get a 2-way.
Really worked hard at MU.
Most of my life I hoped for a 3 way. But more power to Jop
Quote from: JakeBarnes on June 29, 2025, 11:45:49 PMMost of my life I hoped for a 3 way. But more power to Jop
Last day of pride month, get out there and make your dream a reality
https://x.com/mikeascotto/status/1942985680331903106?s=61&t=6XPB8f4sAKmJIzxgMcsCjw
Good for Kam.
He could have made more money in a fifth year at MU.
(Pure sarcasm, because some won't get it otherwise))
Quote from: tower912 on July 09, 2025, 12:46:27 PMHe could have made more money in a fifth year at MU.
(Pure sarcasm, because some won't get it otherwise))
You can't put a price on playing for the glory of your alma matter bub.
Quote from: The Sultan on July 09, 2025, 12:54:45 PMYou can't put a price on playing for the glory of your alma matter bub.
I know, I know. It isn't about the name on the back of the jersey, it is about the face on the front of the green paper.
The Pacers are paying the guy who was smiling on the bench while his team was losing guaranteed money? No wonder they're not a serious organization.
KABOOM!!!
How did Kam look? He only took 4 shots?
He looked like a platypus out there.
Quote from: MuggsyB on July 10, 2025, 06:38:25 PMHow did Kam look? He only took 4 shots?
Summer league games are sometimes difficult to watch........everybody trying to make an impression.
Kam gave the ball up and rarely got it back........he didn't take a jump shot that I saw.....had a few assists and rebounds but wasn't a big factor in the game.
Quote from: MuMark on July 10, 2025, 06:47:07 PMSummer league games are sometimes difficult to watch........everybody trying to make an impression.
Kam gave the ball up and rarely got it back........he didn't take a jump shot that I saw.....had a few assists and rebounds but wasn't a big factor in the game.
Ty. Ya...sometimes you can't glean much from SL.
Like a freshman.
Quote from: We R Final Four on July 10, 2025, 06:40:43 PMHe looked like a platypus out there.
Platypuses are unique and special animals. And much smarter than people realize. Their abilities are vast including their overall sensory system. Their adaptability to a difficult environment and world should be respected.
Quote from: MuggsyB on July 10, 2025, 07:09:32 PMPlatypuses are unique and special animals. And much smarter than people realize. Their abilities are vast including their overall sensory system. Their adaptability to a difficult environment and world should be respected.
Why?
Watched the whole game. Kam didn't seem 100% and was definitely on a minutes restriction as he didn't play in the 4th quarter. Kind of a frustrating watch seeing him play with all of those wannabe GLeaguers trying to show out.
Quote from: MuggsyB on July 10, 2025, 07:09:32 PMPlatypuses are unique and special animals. And much smarter than people realize. Their abilities are vast including their overall sensory system. Their adaptability to a difficult environment and world should be respected.
I know. I watch Phineas and Ferb.
Quote from: MuggsyB on July 10, 2025, 07:09:32 PMPlatypuses are unique and special animals. And much smarter than people realize. Their abilities are vast including their overall sensory system. Their adaptability to a difficult environment and world should be respected.
Animals never get any respect. They deserve so much more.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on July 10, 2025, 07:11:33 PMWhy?
Because they've prospered for 50+ million years with DNA from an amalgam of animals. Show some respect and acknowledge their badassery.
Quote from: MuggsyB on July 10, 2025, 07:23:02 PMBecause they've prospered for 50+ million years with DNA from an amalgam of animals. Show some respect and acknowledge their badassery.
No, I don't think I will.
Quote from: MuggsyB on July 10, 2025, 07:09:32 PMTheir adaptability to a difficult environment and world should be respected.
To call the state of Indiana "difficult" is a drastic understatement.