Brian Troyer must be a Scoop reader!
https://marquettewire.org/4135409/news/with-increasing-new-student-population-mu-seeks-to-expand-geographic-student-diversity-use-alumni-network-to-market-the-university/ (https://marquettewire.org/4135409/news/with-increasing-new-student-population-mu-seeks-to-expand-geographic-student-diversity-use-alumni-network-to-market-the-university/)
QuoteExpanding geographic diversity
One of the biggest initiatives outlined in the new enrollment plan is an effort to significantly expand the geographic diversity of students on campus. Currently, 70% of Marquette students originate from three U.S. states: Wisconsin, Illinois and Minnesota.
Troyer highlighted the success of a fly-in program that provides opportunities for prospective students from around the country to visit Marquette. He explained the program and the impact that it has on prospective students.
"The team in Undergraduate Admissions has done a wonderful job making a campus visit a reality for a large number of students," Troyer said in an email. Troyer highlighted the fact that campus visits often increase likelihood of students enrolling who would not have enrolled without visiting campus.
For students like Tyler Hegdahl, a sophomore in the College of Business Administration, the efforts to expand geographic representation on campus are a welcome sign.
Originally from Portland, Oregon, Hegdahl first heard about Marquette when he saw a table representing the university at a Jesuit college fair near his home. However, he struggled to find his community when he first came to campus in 2023.
"Being from Portland, I came here not knowing really anybody," Hegdahl said. "When you have more people from all across the country... it definitely brings a more welcoming and more diverse community."
Quote from: Macallan 18 on April 15, 2025, 11:54:49 AMBrian Troyer must be a Scoop reader!
https://marquettewire.org/4135409/news/with-increasing-new-student-population-mu-seeks-to-expand-geographic-student-diversity-use-alumni-network-to-market-the-university/ (https://marquettewire.org/4135409/news/with-increasing-new-student-population-mu-seeks-to-expand-geographic-student-diversity-use-alumni-network-to-market-the-university/)
This would have been even cooler 6 years ago. I have had a geographic diversity with Brian in the past.
Neither my roommate nor I did a campus visit. He was from CA and I was from NJ. We both had a family member who attended MU, but I am not sure a campus visit would have influenced us either way. After all in our day there was no "campus", just downtown Milwaukee.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on April 15, 2025, 02:19:22 PMNeither my roommate nor I did a campus visit. He was from CA and I was from NJ. We both had a family member who attended MU, but I am not sure a campus visit would have influenced us either way. After all in our day there was no "campus", just downtown Milwaukee.
This are a little different than they were 60 years ago.
Quote from: The Sultan on April 15, 2025, 02:21:01 PMThis are a little different than they were 60 years ago.
This should be pinned at the top of the board, lol. Relevant to most threads these days. When did Scoop get so old??
We should diversify the sources of our basketball talent
Diversity? Gross.
Quote from: GB Warrior on April 15, 2025, 03:02:03 PMWe should diversify the sources of our basketball talent
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The geographic diversity of MU's roster is spectacular.
Quote from: tower912 on April 15, 2025, 03:27:04 PMThe geographic diversity of MU's roster is spectacular.
Yeah but we should consider people from different walks of life. Like people who have walked life at another college basketball program
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Quote from: The Sultan on April 15, 2025, 02:21:01 PMThis are a little different than they were 60 years ago.
as for campus a lot better.
Quote from: The Sultan on April 15, 2025, 02:21:01 PMThis are a little different than they were 60 years ago.
Bring back DDT
This year is my 50year reunion from MU - no one ran around visiting campuses back then, people I think today put more effort into choosing kindergartens for their kids than we did for college and grad school lol.
What about the fact that only 14% of kids accepted actually enroll? I'd like to see attention paid to that.
Quote from: Warriors4ever on April 16, 2025, 07:43:14 AMThis year is my 50year reunion from MU - no one ran around visiting campuses back then, people I think today put more effort into choosing kindergartens for their kids than we did for college and grad school lol.
What about the fact that only 14% of kids accepted actually enroll? I'd like to see attention paid to that.
Very common across higher ed. The common app makes applications easy and hardly anyone charges a fee.
Quote from: Warriors4ever on April 16, 2025, 07:43:14 AMThis year is my 50year reunion from MU - no one ran around visiting campuses back then, people I think today put more effort into choosing kindergartens for their kids than we did for college and grad school lol.
What about the fact that only 14% of kids accepted actually enroll? I'd like to see attention paid to that.
are you really being critical of people who do campus visits? Considering the cost of attending a school like MU, parents who are paying the bill would like to see where there kid will be attending, especially the facilities, amenities, and general environment. My niece eliminated Northwestern because when she visited, she did not like the vibe she got from the students there. My parents were not fully on board with me going to MU (out-of-state and much more expensive than the state schools I got into) until we visited and they heard about the service component of the MU and Jesuit education, and then they were all in. Kids and parents knowing what they're getting into before enrolling is going to be important for both initial enrollment yield and retention rates.
Quote from: The Sultan on April 16, 2025, 07:45:34 AMVery common across higher ed. The common app makes applications easy and hardly anyone charges a fee.
This. When I was applying pre-Common App, I had to pay a fee for each school and write essays for each college I was applying to, which is rather time consuming. My dad only let me apply to schools I would actually consider attending (and could afford to attend) if I were admitted. With the Common App, kids can apply to up to 20 schools at one time with the click of a button and not pay an application fee for each school.
It isn't uncommon for kids to just apply to schools just to say (and for their parents to brag about) how many they got admitted to, thus the low yield on admitted students colleges are seeing.
I am not surprised by MU's push to increase geographic diversity, and it's a smart move, especially as the pool of applicants in the three states that make up 70% of our student body shrinks. As someone not from WI, IL or MN, I definitely felt like a bit of an outsider and saw more of my classmates from outside of those states transfer at a higher rate. As an RA on my floor I had students from California, Kentucky, Texas, Washington State and Louisiana not return for their sophomore years.
^^^RAs are dorks
Quote from: Jay Bee on April 16, 2025, 10:32:41 AM^^^RAs are dorks
free R/B and single room. I only lasted one year because I was doing it "for the wrong reasons" and "abused my privileges." Apparently, giving out "get out of a beer bust free" cards went against the rules of the job and weren't accepted by other RAs. ;D ;D
Quote from: Warriors4ever on April 16, 2025, 07:43:14 AMThis year is my 50year reunion from MU - no one ran around visiting campuses back then, people I think today put more effort into choosing kindergartens for their kids than we did for college and grad school lol.
What about the fact that only 14% of kids accepted actually enroll? I'd like to see attention paid to that.
I think you answer your own concern with your post. More kids that were accepted to Marquette used to enroll because they never visited Marquette. Nowadays most kids are visiting campus before deciding on college. The 14% that enroll are the kids who didn't visit the campus. The 86% that did visit are all dead. Nobody makes it out of downtown Milwaukee alive.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on April 16, 2025, 10:39:30 AMfree R/B and single room. I only lasted one year because I was doing it "for the wrong reasons" and "abused my privileges." Apparently, giving out "get out of a beer bust free" cards went against the rules of the job and weren't accepted by other RAs. ;D ;D
Musta been a lot easier to be an RA back when the drinking age was 18 and Marquette put up signs near elevators at McCormick encouraging us to throw floor parties.
Quote from: MU82 on April 16, 2025, 12:11:12 PMMusta been a lot easier to be an RA back when the drinking age was 18 and Marquette put up signs near elevators at McCormick encouraging us to throw floor parties.
I'm sure it was. Hall Directors in the 90s were all about catching any drinking going on. My advice to underage residents who wanted to drink was "don't be stupid and keep it quiet." Some of my fellow RAs and I would slip in some brews and quietly have a few.
Thought this article might be of interest:
https://biztimes.com/marquette-university-president-kimo-ah-yun-vision-growth-affordability-research/
Quote from: GOO on April 16, 2025, 01:06:32 PMThought this article might be of interest:
https://biztimes.com/marquette-university-president-kimo-ah-yun-vision-growth-affordability-research/
A Two-year residency requirement for freshman and sophomores? Did I read that right. Locals can't live at home? Am I missing something?
Of course, MU needs to expand their geographic footprint. Any map-reading census analyst knows that!
Brother and Sister Scoopers have noted that 70 percent of MU's student population comes from Illinois, Wisconsin and Minnesota. Those that don't tend to come from Roman Catholic High Schools in Michigan, Ohio and the Northeast.
All of Marquette's traditional markets have seen population increases at or below the national average. The country has increased in population since 1970 from 200 million to 330 million. A disproportionate share of that growth has been in states like Tennessee, Florida, Texas, Arizona, the Carolinas, Georgia and California. These are not places where Marquette does well.
I grew up in Nashville and went to a Catholic High School there. I was one of two in my class of 227 that went to Marquette. Both of us had strong family ties to Wisconsin -- and, for that matter, to Marquette. That's the kind of place that Marquette will have to do much better if they intend to grow outside Wisconsin.
Marquette also is fighting a battle in that folks aren't as focused on organized religion as they used to be. Church attendance is down everywhere and with most denominations. That begs the question of why someone from the South, Southwest or West would spend the money to send their students far from home when, in many cases, each of the growth states have fine state and private universities.
Vanderbilt has recognized some of this trend and is building a new graduate school in West Palm Beach, FL. That amazes me because Vanderbilt's campus is beautiful and located in one of the nation's "it" cities. Yet, they're going to WPB because tha's where the people are!
I doubt a sunbelt campus is the right idea for Marquette but the administration has a huge challenge ahead of them!
Quote from: muwarrior69 on April 16, 2025, 02:44:17 PMA Two-year residency requirement for freshman and sophomores? Did I read that right. Locals can't live at home? Am I missing something?
It's been that way since at least 2007. I think you can get a waiver if you live within 40 miles.
Quote from: cheebs09 on April 16, 2025, 04:06:20 PMIt's been that way since at least 2007. I think you can get a waiver if you live within 40 miles.
Pretty sure that was the case as far back as the 90s.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on April 16, 2025, 02:44:17 PMA Two-year residency requirement for freshman and sophomores? Did I read that right. Locals can't live at home? Am I missing something?
You can get an exception to live at home if you reside with a parent or legal guardian within a 35-mile radius of campus.
https://www.marquette.edu/residence-life/policies.php#residency (https://www.marquette.edu/residence-life/policies.php#residency)
Last I looked the cheapest co-ed dorm option is a triple in Abbottsford for $12,980 for the year. Some old timers could have probably gotten their Bachelor's, Master's and Doctorate from Marquette for that price.
https://www.marquette.edu/central/bursar/tuition-housing-fees-2023-24.php#Rm_Bd_rates (https://www.marquette.edu/central/bursar/tuition-housing-fees-2023-24.php#Rm_Bd_rates)
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on April 16, 2025, 09:29:30 AMWith the Common App, kids can apply to up to 20 schools at one time with the click of a button and not pay an application fee for each school.
It isn't uncommon for kids to just apply to schools just to say (and for their parents to brag about) how many they got admitted to, thus the low yield on admitted students colleges are seeing.
That's not exactly accurate. My son is a HS senior and yeah, used the common app. Every school he applied to had an application fee, and every school had 1-2-3 extra essays that required significant time.
He applied to 7 schools, 4 public, 3 private, none of them were just a click.
(There is a process called Questbridge that have app fees waived, but that's for low-income families.)
Marquette needs to quit admitting women
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 16, 2025, 06:38:24 PMMarquette needs to quit admitting women
What is a woman?
Quote from: The Sultan on April 16, 2025, 04:12:03 PMPretty sure that was the case as far back as the 90s.
That is correct, and common across the country (some have three year requirements). My nephew at MSU has as two year requirement. The exception when I was there during the 90s was if the family lived within a 30 mile radius and I had classmates who would attempt to use the addresses of uncles, grandparents, etc and often were denied that waiver. Room and Board are a revenue generator for schools.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on April 17, 2025, 08:28:11 AMThat is correct, and common across the country (some have three year requirements). My nephew at MSU has as two year requirement. The exception when I was there during the 90s was if the family lived within a 30 mile radius and I had classmates who would attempt to use the addresses of uncles, grandparents, etc and often were denied that waiver. Room and Board are a revenue generator for schools.
It's also better for student outcomes.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on April 17, 2025, 08:28:11 AMThat is correct, and common across the country (some have three year requirements). My nephew at MSU has as two year requirement. The exception when I was there during the 90s was if the family lived within a 30 mile radius and I had classmates who would attempt to use the addresses of uncles, grandparents, etc and often were denied that waiver. Room and Board are a revenue generator for schools.
I wouldn't call two years common. One year is common. Marquette is definitely in the minority with a two year requirement.
I'm just getting back to this thread now.firstly, I wasn't criticizing doing campus visits, was commenting as another prior poster had mentioned not visiting campuses.
Some good points have been made regarding not only the geographic area MU attracts people from, but also how the decline in organized religion has led to a decline in the number of Catholic high schools, which certainly were a traditional feeder back in the day. And how the common application means a lot of kids apply to many more schools than we did when each application was separate and cost money.
I know statistically the success and visibility of our basketball team has in the past led to an increase in applications and hopefully retention of those applicants.
Quote from: Warriors4ever on April 17, 2025, 09:07:04 AMI know statistically the success and visibility of our basketball team has in the past led to an increase in applications and hopefully retention of those applicants.
Fortunately the bball squad takes its annual nose dive in the second half of the season, after most kids have already selected their college destination.
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 17, 2025, 08:32:54 AMI wouldn't call two years common. One year is common. Marquette is definitely in the minority with a two year requirement.
Among private schools it is. Among BE schools:
Butler - 3 years
Creighton - 2 years
DePaul - none (not enough space)
Georgetown - 3 years
MU - 2 years
Providence - 3 years
Seton Hall - none
St. John's - 1 year (not enough space)
UConn - 1 year
Nova - 2 years and guaranteed for a third year
Xavier - 2 years
St. Thomas (future BE school) - 2 years
Looking at the private schools in the A10:
SLU - 2 years
Dayton - 2 years
Fordham - 4 years guaranteed
St. Bonaventure - 3 years
Duquense - 2 years
Richmond - 2 years
Loyola - 2 years
Davidson - 4 years
St. Joe's - 2 years
GW - 2 years
Some random others:
Duke - 3 years
Drake - 2 years
Gonzaga - 2 years
Northwestern - 2 years
Santa Clara - 2 years
LMU - All FT students under 21
ND - 3 years
Evansville - 2 years
And I agree with Sultan - living on campus, especially for the first two years, is better for student outcomes
Quote from: dgies9156 on April 16, 2025, 03:02:40 PMOf course, MU needs to expand their geographic footprint. Any map-reading census analyst knows that!
Brother and Sister Scoopers have noted that 70 percent of MU's student population comes from Illinois, Wisconsin and Minnesota. Those that don't tend to come from Roman Catholic High Schools in Michigan, Ohio and the Northeast.
All of Marquette's traditional markets have seen population increases at or below the national average. The country has increased in population since 1970 from 200 million to 330 million. A disproportionate share of that growth has been in states like Tennessee, Florida, Texas, Arizona, the Carolinas, Georgia and California. These are not places where Marquette does well.
I grew up in Nashville and went to a Catholic High School there. I was one of two in my class of 227 that went to Marquette. Both of us had strong family ties to Wisconsin -- and, for that matter, to Marquette. That's the kind of place that Marquette will have to do much better if they intend to grow outside Wisconsin.
Marquette also is fighting a battle in that folks aren't as focused on organized religion as they used to be. Church attendance is down everywhere and with most denominations. That begs the question of why someone from the South, Southwest or West would spend the money to send their students far from home when, in many cases, each of the growth states have fine state and private universities.
Vanderbilt has recognized some of this trend and is building a new graduate school in West Palm Beach, FL. That amazes me because Vanderbilt's campus is beautiful and located in one of the nation's "it" cities. Yet, they're going to WPB because tha's where the people are!
I doubt a sunbelt campus is the right idea for Marquette but the administration has a huge challenge ahead of them!
Overall the pool of Catholics shrinks every year, as does it's importance to Marquette.
Hard truth for the believers in the man in the sky, but that's just the way society is trending. Religion is on the decline worldwide
Quote from: Hards Alumni on April 17, 2025, 09:42:51 AMOverall the pool of Catholics shrinks every year, as does it's importance to Marquette.
Hard truth for the believers in the man in the sky, but that's just the way society is trending. Religion is on the decline worldwide
Thank God
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on April 17, 2025, 08:28:11 AMThat is correct, and common across the country (some have three year requirements). My nephew at MSU has as two year requirement. The exception when I was there during the 90s was if the family lived within a 30 mile radius and I had classmates who would attempt to use the addresses of uncles, grandparents, etc and often were denied that waiver. Room and Board are a revenue generator for schools.
MSU does not have a 2 year requirement. Maybe your nephew is on a scholarship or something that requires it but for the average student, there isn't one
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 17, 2025, 08:32:54 AMI wouldn't call two years common. One year is common. Marquette is definitely in the minority with a two year requirement.
Among private schools it is very common. Among public schools it is uncommon.
Quote from: swoopem on April 17, 2025, 10:44:08 AMMSU does not have a 2 year requirement. Maybe your nephew is on a scholarship or something that requires it but for the average student, there isn't one
They switched to two years post-COVID.
https://msutoday.msu.edu/news/2020/reinstate-second-year-on-campus-living-requirement
My niece is at Michigan and will be able to move off-campus as a sophomore.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on April 15, 2025, 02:19:22 PMNeither my roommate nor I did a campus visit. He was from CA and I was from NJ. We both had a family member who attended MU, but I am not sure a campus visit would have influenced us either way. After all in our day there was no "campus", just downtown Milwaukee.
On our floor my roommate was from Boston , next door the two were from Connecticut and California. Others on my floor were from Hawaii, Florida, Virginia ,Mass., Indiana and West Virginia. That's the breadth of my memory
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on April 17, 2025, 04:35:30 PMOn our floor my roommate was from Boston , next door the two were from Connecticut and California. Others on my floor were from Hawaii, Florida, Virginia ,Mass., Indiana and West Virginia. That's the breadth of my memory
On my floor they were from all over: New York, Texas, Arizona, Maryland, DC, Puerto Rico and Sparta Wisconsin and more. Quite a few of my classmates were from Wauwatosa, West Allis, Brown Deer and Mequon. The "townies" had cars. Those of us who lived on "campus" could not have a car, no parking was available.