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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: tower912 on April 11, 2025, 06:22:07 AM

Title: Banquet gossip
Post by: tower912 on April 11, 2025, 06:22:07 AM
Who went?   I recommend going to the scout site.
DO had surgery to repair the groin injury from last fall.  I hope his recovery is speedy and full.   
Title: Re: Banquet gossip
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 11, 2025, 07:12:27 AM
Quote from: tower912 on April 11, 2025, 06:22:07 AMWho went?   I recommend going to the scout site.
DO had surgery to repair the groin injury from last fall.  I hope his recovery is speedy and full.   

Let us know what Herm says since I'm sure he was there
Title: Re: Banquet gossip
Post by: tower912 on April 11, 2025, 07:15:48 AM
I thought he was with you at Augusta.
Title: Re: Banquet gossip
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 11, 2025, 07:20:25 AM
Quote from: tower912 on April 11, 2025, 07:15:48 AMI thought he was with you at Augusta.

He's everywhere
Title: Re: Banquet gossip
Post by: cheebs09 on April 11, 2025, 08:17:41 AM
I'm just waiting for what's been whispered to MarquetteMike1977.
Title: Re: Banquet gossip
Post by: StillAWarrior on April 11, 2025, 09:59:59 AM
I saw that Sean Jones received the Dwyane Wade Legacy of Leadership Award. This speaks highly of him to receive this award despite being sidelined the entire season due to injury. I'm looking forward to seeing him on the floor again next year.


https://x.com/Aries_Sherrie/status/1910671014666641853
Title: Re: Banquet gossip
Post by: PointWarrior on April 11, 2025, 10:05:21 AM
I am assuming the table reserved for aircraft carriers and 3pt sharp shooters was empty? 
Title: Re: Banquet gossip
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on April 11, 2025, 11:19:15 AM
Quote from: StillAWarrior on April 11, 2025, 09:59:59 AMI saw that Sean Jones received the Dwyane Wade Legacy of Leadership Award. This speaks highly of him to receive this award despite being sidelined the entire season due to injury. I'm looking forward to seeing him on the floor again next year.


https://x.com/Aries_Sherrie/status/1910671014666641853

Heard Sean was going to enter the portal unless he was given this award. 
Title: Re: Banquet gossip
Post by: wadesworld on April 11, 2025, 11:24:14 AM
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on April 11, 2025, 11:19:15 AMHeard Sean was going to enter the portal unless he was given this award. 

Bruh.  He was IN the portal.  Before it even opened.  Things were so bad the NCAA made an exception for him.
Title: Re: Banquet gossip
Post by: MU82 on April 11, 2025, 02:01:16 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on April 11, 2025, 11:24:14 AMBruh.  He was IN the portal.  Before it even opened.  Things were so bad the NCAA made an exception for him.

stay tuned
Title: Re: Banquet gossip
Post by: PointWarrior on April 11, 2025, 02:25:32 PM
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on April 11, 2025, 11:19:15 AMHeard Sean was going to enter the portal unless he was given this award. 

This is almost as bad as Crean giving his son the MVP trophy of his camp...
Title: Re: Banquet gossip
Post by: muwarrior69 on April 11, 2025, 02:47:48 PM
I heard the college basketball season was in doubt for next season. The 145% tariff on Chinese basketball imports might be cost prohibitive.
Title: Re: Banquet gossip
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 11, 2025, 03:15:02 PM
Quote from: muwarrior69 on April 11, 2025, 02:47:48 PMI heard the college basketball season was in doubt for next season. The 145% tariff on Chinese basketball imports might be cost prohibitive.

Won't be a problem.  All those factories are back in America. 
Title: Re: Banquet gossip
Post by: Scoop Snoop on April 11, 2025, 03:48:52 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 11, 2025, 03:15:02 PMWon't be a problem.  All those factories are back in America. 

Where they belong.
Title: Re: Banquet gossip
Post by: panda2.0 on April 11, 2025, 06:46:40 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on April 11, 2025, 11:24:14 AMBruh.  He was IN the portal.  Before it even opened.  Things were so bad the NCAA made an exception for him.

Circle jerk for the mope squad begins in 45 minutes.
Title: Re: Banquet gossip
Post by: wadesworld on April 11, 2025, 07:05:55 PM
Quote from: panda2.0 on April 11, 2025, 06:46:40 PMCircle jerk for the mope squad begins in 45 minutes.

Mope squad is checking in on Sean Jones transfer destinations.
Title: Re: Banquet gossip
Post by: Jay Bee on April 11, 2025, 08:43:22 PM
Quote from: panda2.0 on April 11, 2025, 06:46:40 PMCircle jerk for the mope squad begins in 45 minutes.

Wuz ur source there, bro?
Title: Re: Banquet gossip
Post by: tower912 on April 12, 2025, 11:36:53 AM
Ben won a defense award, as he held the player he was guarding to 35% shooting for the season, the best on the team.  Coach's goal is 40%


That matches my eye test.
Title: Re: Banquet gossip
Post by: PointWarrior on April 12, 2025, 12:32:41 PM
My favorite Dodd's banquet moment.  I used attend them regularly - during the Buzz's year with  allegations against the team, a prominent walk-on was not present, mentioned, or listed in the banquet team roster.  I posted on the Dodd's board that it looks like they dismissed the walk-on from the team.   Dodd's went in full crazy protect Buzz mode and claimed he was at the banquet cause Dodd's saw him in the bathroom. A day or two later it was announced he was not returning to the team.
Title: Re: Banquet gossip
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on April 14, 2025, 12:37:03 PM
Quote from: cheebs09 on April 11, 2025, 08:17:41 AMI'm just waiting for what's been whispered to MarquetteMike1977.

Unfortunately this is the first Banquet we have missed in years as we had Bucks tickets.
Hopefully for the players we are not heading into a basketball Gun fight with knives talent wise. But I trust in Coach and the program is strong yet. 
Title: Re: Banquet gossip
Post by: Shooter McGavin on April 14, 2025, 01:02:23 PM
Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on April 14, 2025, 12:37:03 PMUnfortunately this is the first Banquet we have missed in years as we had Bucks tickets.
Hopefully for the players we are not heading into a basketball Gun fight with knives talent wise. But I trust in Coach and the program is strong yet. 

Your last two sentences sum it up well.  No one on this board of super fans, even the most optimistic, can be ultra confident in next year's team before they see it for themselves.  Just have to hope for the best because if it works again (I would say a tournament appearance with upside would be working again) then the system has proven itself even with top 75-150 talent.  If Shaka can then start to sprinkle in a few top 50 guys, second and maybe  third weekend success will be shortly behind. 
Title: Re: Banquet gossip
Post by: MU82 on April 14, 2025, 02:06:15 PM
Quote from: Shooter McGavin on April 14, 2025, 01:02:23 PMYour last two sentences sum it up well.  No one on this board of super fans, even the most optimistic, can be ultra confident in next year's team before they see it for themselves.  Just have to hope for the best because if it works again (I would say a tournament appearance with upside would be working again) then the system has proven itself even with top 75-150 talent.  If Shaka can then start to sprinkle in a few top 50 guys, second and maybe  third weekend success will be shortly behind. 

I'm not saying we will take a step backward, because I don't know. But IF we took a step backward and missed the tournament but looked superbly positioned for 2026-27, with two good seniors (Zaide, Sean), two really good juniors (Royce, D.O.), and five good sophomores (2025 recruiting class plus Clark), to go with some outstanding recruits, I'd feel pretty darn good about our situation.

Very good programs often have take-a-step-back years. So I'm not gonna automatically say that missing the tourney next season "proves" recruit/develop/retain doesn't work.

I am aware that plenty of Scoopers would be losing their minds, though.
Title: Re: Banquet gossip
Post by: Scoop Snoop on April 14, 2025, 02:28:50 PM
Quote from: MU82 on April 14, 2025, 02:06:15 PMI'm not saying we will take a step backward, because I don't know. But IF we took a step backward and missed the tournament but looked superbly positioned for 2026-27, with two good seniors (Zaide, Sean), two really good juniors (Royce, D.O.), and five good sophomores (2025 recruiting class plus Clark), to go with some outstanding recruits, I'd feel pretty darn good about our situation.

Very good programs often have take-a-step-back years. So I'm not gonna automatically say that missing the tourney next season "proves" recruit/develop/retain doesn't work.

I am aware that plenty of Scoopers would be losing their minds, though.

Agree with almost everything you said here- "IF".. possible step back '25''26, with a very solid '26-'27 season being the potential reward, and plenty of Scoopers losing their minds (minor disagreement-put that in the past tense) sums it up pretty well.

There are so many unknowns, but at this point my guess is that next season will be about the same (W/L) as this past one. If Willie does not have a defibrillator in his home, he should get one by November.

 

 
Title: Re: Banquet gossip
Post by: MU82 on April 14, 2025, 02:37:19 PM
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on April 14, 2025, 02:28:50 PMAgree with almost everything you said here- "IF".. possible step back '25''26, with a very solid '26-'27 season being the potential reward, and plenty of Scoopers losing their minds (minor disagreement-put that in the past tense) sums it up pretty well.

There are so many unknowns, but at this point my guess is that next season will be about the same (W/L) as this past one. if Willie does not have a defibrillator in his home, he should get one by November.
 

Sitting here today and trying to be as objective as possible, I'm thinking that for Marquette to be a top-3 BEast team next season, a couple/few players will need to improve the way Kolek, Oso, OMax and Kam did after their sophomore years. It would also help if a couple of the freshmen are real contributors for most of the season.

Is that asking too much? Maybe, maybe not. We'll get to see in the fall.
Title: Re: Banquet gossip
Post by: MuMark on April 14, 2025, 04:32:38 PM
Quote from: MU82 on April 14, 2025, 02:37:19 PMSitting here today and trying to be as objective as possible, I'm thinking that for Marquette to be a top-3 BEast team next season, a couple/few players will need to improve the way Kolek, Oso, OMax and Kam did after their sophomore years. It would also help if a couple of the freshmen are real contributors for most of the season.

Is that asking too much? Maybe, maybe not. We'll get to see in the fall.

Improvement you say

https://x.com/painttouches/status/1911888192183091332?s=61&t=6XPB8f4sAKmJIzxgMcsCjw
Title: Re: Banquet gossip
Post by: tower912 on April 14, 2025, 04:40:37 PM
So, under Shaka, year to year improvement is better than any other school's 10 year average, based on that formula.  Nice.
Title: Re: Banquet gossip
Post by: Class71 on April 14, 2025, 07:49:35 PM
It depends on ones expectations if we should be looking forward to next season or not. If we compare Shaka's success to Wojo them things look very bright.

If we compare to Al then you will surely be disappointed. With NIL and the portal system our best days may have passed in the 70's. If you are looking forward to another national championship, I suggest you look at the top talent demonstrated in the Big Dance this year. We simply are not recruiting at that level. We need strong talented bigs that can rebound and play D. We need shooters that can hit threes and yes foul shoots and mid range jumpers over tall bigs. We need ball handlers and passers. We need it all to be the best.

Title: Re: Banquet gossip
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on April 14, 2025, 08:12:28 PM
Quote from: Class71 on April 14, 2025, 07:49:35 PMIt depends on ones expectations if we should be looking forward to next season or not. If we compare Shaka's success to Wojo them things look very bright.

If we compare to Al then you will surely be disappointed. With NIL and the portal system our best days may have passed in the 70's. If you are looking forward to another national championship, I suggest you look at the top talent demonstrated in the Big Dance this year. We simply are not recruiting at that level. We need strong talented bigs that can rebound and play D. We need shooters that can hit threes and yes foul shoots and mid range jumpers over tall bigs. We need ball handlers and passers. We need it all to be the best.



Not shooting midrange jumpers over tall bigs was definitely a big disappointment last season.
Title: Re: Banquet gossip
Post by: Jay Bee on April 14, 2025, 08:21:55 PM
Wojo recruits develop.
Title: Re: Banquet gossip
Post by: Galway Eagle on April 14, 2025, 09:37:09 PM
Quote from: Class71 on April 14, 2025, 07:49:35 PMIf we compare to Al then you will surely be disappointed.

8-18

14-12

21-9 NIT runner up

23-6 Sweet 16

Vs

19-13

29-7 swept conference championships

27-10 sweet 16

23-11

I doubt Shaka beats out Al but if we're not picking and choosing what Al years we get to compare Shaka's start to and actually compare to Al's start then even it's ridiculous to be upset.

Yes I get were a bigger program now, but not big enough where we deserve to walk out and expect them to hand us a 2 seed in years 2 & 3.
Title: Re: Banquet gossip
Post by: Scoop Snoop on April 14, 2025, 10:31:23 PM
Quote from: Class71 on April 14, 2025, 07:49:35 PMIf we compare to Al then you will surely be disappointed. Our best days may have passed in the 70's.

This class of '70 alum is looking forward to next season without needing to make any comparisons to Al. I refuse to live in the past, but I love to visit it via memories sometimes. I think you are the one who will be disappointed, along with plenty of scoopers who seem to naively believe that if we just do all the things you listed in your original post that I edited, we will soon have our second natty very soon. Shaka needs to understand that he is not doing enough.
Title: Re: Banquet gossip
Post by: avid1010 on April 15, 2025, 05:21:21 AM
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on April 14, 2025, 10:31:23 PMShaka needs to understand that he is not doing enough.

If Shaka only understood this the same way you do.  Championships would fall on MU like a January snow storm.  Please Shaka, understand you are not doing enough. 
Title: Re: Banquet gossip
Post by: Superfan on April 15, 2025, 08:24:40 AM
FL won a NATTY last year and not one of their starters was a top 100 HS player.  If you look back over the last couple years many of the AAs were players that were largely unknown and came up through mid-major conferences (TKO).  I don't like the new landscape where everyone has the opportunity to become a free agent at the end of the year.  If guys like Shaka, Izzo and Painter can successfully buck the trend, they'll be heros to me.
Title: Re: Banquet gossip
Post by: Scoop Snoop on April 15, 2025, 08:54:27 AM
Quote from: avid1010 on April 15, 2025, 05:21:21 AMIf Shaka only understood this the same way you do.  Championships would fall on MU like a January snow storm.  Please Shaka, understand you are not doing enough. 

Umm...it was satire.  ::)

Didn't think I needed teal. You may want to reread Class '71's post and then my reply.

I like your January snowstorm analogy though.
Title: Re: Banquet gossip
Post by: MU82 on April 15, 2025, 12:41:52 PM
Quote from: Superfan on April 15, 2025, 08:24:40 AMFL won a NATTY last year and not one of their starters was a top 100 HS player.  If you look back over the last couple years many of the AAs were players that were largely unknown and came up through mid-major conferences (TKO).  I don't like the new landscape where everyone has the opportunity to become a free agent at the end of the year.  If guys like Shaka, Izzo and Painter can successfully buck the trend, they'll be heros to me.

I have no problem with athletes having the same freedom of movement rights as coaches and fellow students, but otherwise I agree with your post.

Golden built a championship team around 3-star and low-4-star recruits, a couple of mid-major transfers and retention of his good players. In the process, he beat teams that were loaded with transfers, NBA-lottery-level recruits or both.
Title: Re: Banquet gossip
Post by: augoman on April 15, 2025, 04:00:30 PM
lest we forget, coaches have contracts with monetary penalties for leaving.  Unlike players, who may have monetary rewards for leaving.
Title: Re: Banquet gossip
Post by: Scoop Snoop on April 15, 2025, 04:20:38 PM
Quote from: augoman on April 15, 2025, 04:00:30 PMlest we forget, coaches have contracts with monetary penalties for leaving.  Unlike players, who may have monetary rewards for leaving.

When has a coach ever paid a penalty out of his own pocket? His new school covers that little detail.
Title: Re: Banquet gossip
Post by: MU82 on April 15, 2025, 04:37:12 PM
Quote from: augoman on April 15, 2025, 04:00:30 PMlest we forget, coaches have contracts with monetary penalties for leaving.  Unlike players, who may have monetary rewards for leaving.

First sentence: Not really. Those contracts certainly don't penalize the coaches themselves.

Second sentence: You don't think coaches reap "monetary rewards" for changing schools?
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