This popped up last night
Real or April Fools?
https://x.com/buckscrewmu/status/1906938117577187511?s=46&t=uSnZlSLOtzvp-jqg6eHG4Q
BREAKING:
Marquette G Tre Norman has entered the transfer portal. The former 4⭐️ averaged 1.9ppg across 2 seasons with the Golden Eagles.
No
Today is April 1. View any such announcement with skepticism. Until it is verified by the player or the university.
Quote from: tower912 on April 01, 2025, 06:43:05 AMToday is April 1. View any such announcement with skepticism. Until it is verified by the player or the university.
Thank you for this reminder early in the day...
Break a 9 month hiatus for this? Maybe it's just because he's set the click-bait bar so high, but I expect better from Heisey
This is the best site I've found with a searchable list. Type "Marquette" into the filter box:
https://www.verbalcommits.com/transfers
Quote from: rocky_warrior on April 01, 2025, 08:07:33 AMThis is the best site I've found with a searchable list. Type "Marquette" into the filter box:
https://www.verbalcommits.com/transfers
I refuse to not have scoop break Marquette news to me
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 01, 2025, 08:30:11 AMI refuse to not have scoop break Marquette news to me
That's a better strategy than following X.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on April 01, 2025, 08:34:30 AMThat's a better strategy than following X.
You can say that about most things.
I'm entering the portal as well.
Quote from: JakeBarnes on April 01, 2025, 09:08:40 AMI'm entering the portal as well.
Let us know if you get a bag drop.
Quote from: tower912 on April 01, 2025, 09:11:42 AMLet us know if you get a bag drop.
if he's a banger, no doubt he will.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 01, 2025, 08:30:11 AMI refuse to not have scoop break Marquette news to me
I need it direct from the source's camp. Herman Cain is the only source I trust.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on April 01, 2025, 09:20:25 AMif he's a banger, no doubt he will.
Coincidentally, Pitino messaged me about that and something about Porcini's
If I read one more post about another man's spurtability....
Quote from: JakeBarnes on April 01, 2025, 10:05:48 AMCoincidentally, Pitino messaged me about that and something about Porcini's
You know what to expect. BOHICA.
Quote from: JakeBarnes on April 01, 2025, 09:08:40 AMI'm entering the portal as well.
I'd rather that you stay and we send Heisy to the portal.
If we can't trust a random X post reposted by Herm on April Fool's Day, who can we trust?
Quote from: JakeBarnes on April 01, 2025, 09:08:40 AMI'm entering the portal as well.
While scoop maintains their retain and develop philosophy, we wish you the best.
Quote from: wadesworld on April 01, 2025, 09:51:20 AMI need it direct from the source's camp. Herman Cain is the only source I trust.
That's the NYpost
Michigan State's Tre Holloman and Gehrig Normand are in the portal.
Is Ramsey in the portal?
What's wrong with this picture
In the portal:
- Tre Norman
- Sean Jones
Not in the Portal:
- Shaka's pet project players, useless, not improving
- Shaka Smart, clearly not looking for better talent
At this rate, Marquette should just transfer portal to the Horizon League.
I appreciate how you have raised your sarcasm game these last couple of months. You are really good at doing it in such a way that people have to double and triple check whether you are serious.
Quote from: tower912 on April 02, 2025, 09:19:13 AMI appreciate how you have raised your sarcasm game these last couple of months. You are really good at doing it in such a way that people have to double and triple check whether you are serious.
I agree with this analysis
With 15 player squads and with his lack of improvement he will get his 5 minutes of playing time next year because he can not be put on the court....His +/- had to be the worst on the team....And there are too many of players competing for playing time....He will bail for sure after next year because of the lack of playing time....For sure....
Quote from: burger on April 05, 2025, 02:54:29 AMWith 15 player squads and with his lack of improvement he will get his 5 minutes of playing time next year because he can not be put on the court....His +/- had to be the worst on the team....And there are too many of players competing for playing time....He will bail for sure after next year because of the lack of playing time....For sure....
I'm pretty confident Tre is going to be in the rotation and play more than 5 MPG.
I'll give Tre this, during his Jen Lada interview he said "you haven't seen the best Tre Norman" so he's aware of himself right now. My guess is he gets the start early next year and if he doesn't show he's taking it to a next level then he'll get benched for Parham or Owens.
Quote from: Galway Eagle on April 05, 2025, 12:21:27 PMI'll give Tre this, during his Jen Lada interview he said "you haven't seen the best Tre Norman" so he's aware of himself right now. My guess is he gets the start early next year and if he doesn't show he's taking it to a next level then he'll get benched for Parham or Owens.
Parham and Owens currently play different positions than Tre. Though DO could get looks at PG. Tre and Sean are competing to be the starting PG.
Quote from: Galway Eagle on April 05, 2025, 12:21:27 PMI'll give Tre this, during his Jen Lada interview he said "you haven't seen the best Tre Norman" so he's aware of himself right now. My guess is he gets the start early next year and if he doesn't show he's taking it to a next level then he'll get benched for Parham or Owens.
I don't think he'll start unless he has an outstanding offseason.
Parham will absolutely be starting at the 4 to start the season.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on April 05, 2025, 12:23:37 PMI don't think he'll start unless he has an outstanding offseason.
Parham will absolutely be starting at the 4 to start the season.
I'm guessing we'll go Sean/Tre, Chase, Zaide, Parham, Gold as starters. I think we could see Royce more as an undersized 5 who plays in and out on offense while Gold gets to move more into a 4 role.
Ben will probably still have to defend 5s.
Parham in the Joplin role is a no-brainer. I had said that Owens starting was written in ink. OK, erasable ink. Zaide played better and will probably replace Stevie. DO replaces both Zaide and Chase and plays a lot of minutes. If Sean starts and plays 30 mpg, Shaka will have to make some adjustments on defense. Ben on the perimeter with Sean guarding the post simply will not work. Defensive switching is the reason I think Tre has a chance at starting.
Quote from: tower912 on April 05, 2025, 12:23:23 PMParham and Owens currently play different positions than Trey. Though DO could get looks at PG. Try and Sean are competing to be the starting PG.
Right but given who else is more switchable I don't see why tre falling out couldn't push say Zaide to a wing opening up a Forward role. I also think Tre is competing for starting 2.
If we're going off of what Shakas "get old stay old" theory would've looked like it would've been:
Sean
Tre
Chase
Zaide
Ben
So if Tre doesn't develop I could see it as:
Sean
Chase
Zaide
Owens/Parham
Ben/Parham
Quote from: BM1090 on April 05, 2025, 12:29:39 PMI'm guessing we'll go Sean/Tre, Chase, Zaide, Parham, Gold as starters. I think we could see Royce more as an undersized 5 who plays in and out on offense while Gold gets to move more into a 4 role.
Ben will probably still have to defend 5s.
If Owens can pick up his defensive abilities, I wouldn't rule out a lineup of:
Owens, Chase, Zaide, Parham, Gold.
If you watch all season long, Owens was often bringing up the ball and initiating the offense, and was a solid passer. I wouldn't rule out, him playing a facilitator/lead role, if he can up his defensive game and build some strength.
Quote from: Galway Eagle on April 05, 2025, 12:47:09 PMRight but given who else is more switchable I don't see why tre falling out couldn't push say Zaide to a wing opening up a Forward role. I also think Tre is competing for starting 2.
If we're going off of what Shakas "get old stay old" theory would've looked like it would've been:
Sean
Tre
Chase
Zaide
Ben
So if Tre doesn't develop I could see it as:
Sean
Chase
Zaide
Owens/Parham
Ben/Parham
If healthy I don't see any way Royce doesn't start.
Quote from: forgetful on April 05, 2025, 12:56:02 PMIf Owens can pick up his defensive abilities, I wouldn't rule out a lineup of:
Owens, Chase, Zaide, Parham, Gold.
If you watch all season long, Owens was often bringing up the ball and initiating the offense, and was a solid passer. I wouldn't rule out, him playing a facilitator/lead role, if he can up his defensive game and build some strength.
I could see that if Owens improves enough defensively. But I think they are really going to need Sean's ability to dribble penetrate this season. And I'd love Owens to keep developing so he could be a secondary creator. Having only one creator killed them this season. If Tre or Owens can develop into that or one of the freshmen is ready to assume that role, I could see them surprising this year.
Quote from: forgetful on April 05, 2025, 12:56:02 PMIf Owens can pick up his defensive abilities, I wouldn't rule out a lineup of:
Owens, Chase, Zaide, Parham, Gold.
If you watch all season long, Owens was often bringing up the ball and initiating the offense, and was a solid passer. I wouldn't rule out, him playing a facilitator/lead role, if he can up his defensive game and build some strength.
I mentioned that starting a few times. That would be a line up with all kinds of offensive and defensive flexibility. Length and athleticism.
My concern about it is balance and wow the bench rotation plays out. Can Sean and Tre sub in at the same time?
(https://i.ibb.co/LGdnfjR/photo-stat.jpg)
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/stats/_/id/4895745/tre-norman
Quote from: Galway Eagle on April 05, 2025, 12:47:09 PMRight but given who else is more switchable I don't see why tre falling out couldn't push say Zaide to a wing opening up a Forward role. I also think Tre is competing for starting 2.
If we're going off of what Shakas "get old stay old" theory would've looked like it would've been:
Sean
Tre
Chase
Zaide
Ben
So if Tre doesn't develop I could see it as:
Sean
Chase
Zaide
Owens/Parham
Ben/Parham
Don't see us going with 4 guys 6'5 or smaller and Ben to start games.
Certainly possible to see a lineup like that at times but more of a change up.
Tre is going to have to become an offensive player to get significant minutes.......i just don't see him and Sean playing together providing enough offense to make it work.
It will be interesting to see who wins the spots.......unlike other years we should have spirited competition for 2 or 3 spots.
Quote from: tower912 on April 05, 2025, 01:01:40 PMI mentioned that starting a few times. That would be a line up with all kinds of offensive and defensive flexibility. Length and athleticism.
My concern about it is balance and wow the bench rotation plays out. Can Sean and Tre sub in at the same time?
Very good point on the bench issues, especially given that no one really knows where Sean after such a major injury.
Quote from: lalumiere's architect on April 05, 2025, 01:24:08 PM(https://i.ibb.co/LGdnfjR/photo-stat.jpg)
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/stats/_/id/4895745/tre-norman
Woof.
Quote from: BM1090 on April 05, 2025, 12:59:35 PMI could see that if Owens improves enough defensively. But I think they are really going to need Sean's ability to dribble penetrate this season. And I'd love Owens to keep developing so he could be a secondary creator. Having only one creator killed them this season. If Tre or Owens can develop into that or one of the freshmen is ready to assume that role, I could see them surprising this year.
You can really see how much natural talent Owen's has. I do not know about his defense. I thought he was more limited by his offensive mistakes. His dribbling was not tight enough. He more than once got the ball stolen from behind. He also made poor decisions on driving to the basket. I can see him starting at point, if he improves his ball handling and decision making.
As far as the starting lineup, I do not see any player averaging 30 minutes of playing time per game.
Quote from: bilsu on April 05, 2025, 02:43:27 PMAs far as the starting lineup, I do not see any player averaging 30 minutes of playing time per game.
I'd be shocked if Chase's minutes decreased after playing through injury and losing our other 2 starting backcourt players.
I respect poster's opinions, but this "If Tre develops" is sort of confusing. He enrolled right out of high school, so he has been in the program for 2 1/2 years. After that time, he still shoots 19% from three and is barely above 50% on his free throws. In the next six months, he is going to develop? To a 35% from three and maybe 75% from the line? OK...
There is no way he will see time with his current stats, especially in Shaka's offensive system shooting the three. Heck, you could not even put him on the floor in a close game at the end, it would be a "Hack a Tre" by the other team. Those reasons kept him on the bench except for spelling Mitchell after four minutes and that even stopped in last few games with Lowery spelling Mitchell instead. He then sat rest of the game.
I believed Norman would enter the portal and maybe he just likes it here, who knows. Remember, there is a reason Shaka did a full court press on recruiting Nigel James and Nyk Lewis. Sean Jones coming off ACL and Norman with his liabilities.
Still early for starting lineups next year, portal still open even though I believe Shaka only BE coach not to take a player so far.
By the 10th game.....He will be relegated to 5th guy off the bench....
By mid-season in the Big East.....He will be doing filler minutes when we have foul trouble....
Call me wrong then.....
Tre is not in the portal, simple who would want to pay him, sure MU is paying him more then any other school in America. Nigel James is the backup and Norman a distant 3 And if Owens has improved he is 4th. I see his time as mope up time. Has a nice attitude and good smile!
Quote from: BCHoopster on April 05, 2025, 08:11:46 PMTre is not in the portal, simple who would want to pay him, sure MU is paying him more then any other school in America. Nigel James is the backup and Norman a distant 3 And if Owens has improved he is 4th. I see his time as mope up time. Has a nice attitude and good smile!
Mope up time is ironically funny.
I hope I'm not being uber-negative, but Sean or Tre getting major minutes at the 1 is going to be severely detrimental to our season
Quote from: jesmu84 on April 05, 2025, 09:27:31 PMI hope I'm not being uber-negative, but Sean or Tre getting major minutes at the 1 is going to be severely detrimental to our season
Why Sean necessarily?
Quote from: Johnny B on April 05, 2025, 09:51:10 PMWhy Sean necessarily?
What has Sean shown on the offensive side of the ball?
Quote from: jesmu84 on April 05, 2025, 09:55:54 PMWhat has Sean shown on the offensive side of the ball?
Can get by his man off dribble. Create for others. Showed some scoring around rim. He's a wildcard tho obviously in November it will be nearly two years since his injury
Quote from: Johnny B on April 05, 2025, 10:00:55 PMCan get by his man off dribble. Create for others. Showed some scoring around rim. He's a wildcard tho obviously in November it will be nearly two years since his injury
Has had 2 years to work on his shot, Shaka believes in development so he should be much better. If you remember 2 years ago, teams backed off him to let him shoot!
Quote from: Johnny B on April 05, 2025, 10:00:55 PMCan get by his man off dribble. Create for others. Showed some scoring around rim. He's a wildcard tho obviously in November it will be nearly two years since his injury
I'm getting older, so my memory is probably going.
I don't remember much floor general or drive and kick or scoring with the ball in his hand from Sean. Definitely no outside shooting
Quote from: jesmu84 on April 05, 2025, 10:06:24 PMI'm getting older, so my memory is probably going.
I don't remember much floor general or drive and kick or scoring with the ball in his hand from Sean. Definitely no outside shooting
Maybe I was dreaming
Quote from: jesmu84 on April 05, 2025, 10:06:24 PMI'm getting older, so my memory is probably going.
I don't remember much floor general or drive and kick or scoring with the ball in his hand from Sean. Definitely no outside shooting
Sean could almost get in the lane at will, which is a huge asset and metric for a PG/program in general - i.e. paint touches. His passing after collapsing the defense could have been better. I think he will be a better 3 point shooter than what we've seen so far too.
Proctor choosing a really bad game to miss every single wide open shots he takes
Quote from: jesmu84 on April 05, 2025, 10:06:24 PMI'm getting older, so my memory is probably going.
I don't remember much floor general or drive and kick or scoring with the ball in his hand from Sean. Definitely no outside shooting
Listen none of us know what we will get next season but before he got hurt he was making some improvements over his freshman year......not a leap but a step forward in a few areas.
Offensive rating improved from 94 to 101
Assist rate up ....turnover rate a little lower.....
2 point fg pct went from 48 to 54%
His 3 point shooting was still bad overall but was much better in a small sample in conference play.
Don't think it's unreasonable to think he will continue to get better next season.......but yes....we won't know until he plays.
Edit wrong thread
Why are people talking Tre Norman on final 4 saturday
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on April 05, 2025, 10:21:56 PMEdit wrong thread
Why are people talking Tre Norman on final 4 saturday
Because we can multitask?
Quote from: MuMark on April 05, 2025, 10:27:03 PMBecause we can multitask?
Or we could just talk about relevancy
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on April 05, 2025, 10:53:25 PMOr we could just talk about relevancy
The great thing about message boards is you can actually skip conversations that don't interest you.......its really a neat feature.
Forgive him. He can't focus on anything but his wagers, and anything anyone posts about Marquette basketball while a game he has money on is going on is just a distraction.
Quote from: bilsu on April 05, 2025, 02:43:27 PMYou can really see how much natural talent Owen's has. I do not know about his defense. I thought he was more limited by his offensive mistakes. His dribbling was not tight enough. He more than once got the ball stolen from behind. He also made poor decisions on driving to the basket. I can see him starting at point, if he improves his ball handling and decision making.
As far as the starting lineup, I do not see any player averaging 30 minutes of playing time per game.
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Due to work demands, I missed a ton of MU games this year. Just watching the highlights, one would wonder how Damarius Owens is not an absolute star very soon. Then when you go back and watch the entire game and you see a lot of freshman mistakes and unforced turnovers. Couldn't agree more with your post. Clean up his decision making and ball handling and he could be any kind.
Quote from: Elonsmusk on April 05, 2025, 10:16:02 PMSean could almost get in the lane at will, which is a huge asset and metric for a PG/program in general - i.e. paint touches. His passing after collapsing the defense could have been better. I think he will be a better 3 point shooter than what we've seen so far too.
He needs a go to shot, floater or something when he gets in the lane. Because that to was a big problem for him. Yes his quickness got him in the paint, but then he would be in no man's land without a play. Hopefully he's developed something while rehabbing.
He wasn't a good shooter, however was clutch. He hit huge threes in the wins at Illinois and against UCLA in Maui. He's a tough kid.
Quote from: BCHoopster on April 05, 2025, 10:05:08 PMHas had 2 years to work on his shot, Shaka believes in development so he should be much better. If you remember 2 years ago, teams backed off him to let him shoot!
He shot a lower percentage in Year 2 vs Year 1.....Yep....
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on April 06, 2025, 07:24:24 AMHe needs a go to shot, floater or something when he gets in the lane. Because that to was a big problem for him. Yes his quickness got him in the paint, but then he would be in no man's land without a play. Hopefully he's developed something while rehabbing.
He wasn't a good shooter, however was clutch. He hit huge threes in the wins at Illinois and against UCLA in Maui. He's a tough kid.
And 3 in a row against Creighton to help seal a win at Fiserv shortly before he was injured.
Sean had become a valuable, clutch part of the rotation before he got hurt. Shaka was playing him at "winning time," and he delivered. His 3 against UCLA was arguably the most important shot of the 2023-24 non-conference season for Marquette.
I agree with others that he needed work on several facets of his offensive game to be our 30 mpg floor leader. Needs to shoot better from 3, needs to develop a floater, needs to make better decisions more consistently, needs to hit his layups, needs to shoot FTs better.
Many of the exact same things were being said (and correctly so) about Tyler Kolek after his sophomore season. Especially about 3-point shooting, a float game and finishing. Some players can improve significantly through hard work and good coaching - TK proved that. Some players, no matter how hard they work, are never gonna improve some parts of their game. Hopefully, Sean falls into the former category.
Kolek had incredible PG instincts. Even when he was turning the ball over a little too often or getting upset with himself for not making shots, his court vision and awareness already were exemplary. What little we've seen of Sean, that hasn't been on display, so we'll see.
From TV appearances and highlight videos, Nigel James seems to possess many of the traits that outstanding PGs need, so I feel pretty good about the position going forward.
MU82, we agree on Nigel, playing against the best kids in high school makes him ready to play right away, the court being longer will help his speed as well.
Quote from: MU82 on April 06, 2025, 09:54:12 AMI agree with others that he needed work on several facets of his offensive game to be our 30 mpg floor leader.
Many of the exact same things were being said (and correctly so) about Tyler Kolek after his sophomore season. Especially about 3-point shooting, a float game and finishing. Some players can improve significantly through hard work and good coaching - TK proved that. Some players, no matter how hard they work, are never gonna improve some parts of their game. Hopefully, Sean falls into the former category.
From TV appearances and highlight videos, Nigel James seems to possess many of the traits that outstanding PGs need, so I feel pretty good about the position going forward.
Very fair appraisal.
Quote from: BCHoopster on April 06, 2025, 10:00:15 AMMU82, we agree on Nigel, playing against the best kids in high school makes him ready to play right away, the court being longer will help his speed as well.
Where did MU82 say that? Seems to imply that he is ready to be a starter if needed. You didn't actually say that, but...
Clarification please.
Tre can carve out a role as a tough, defensive-minded player that will more than likely come off the bench and guard the other team's best offensive guard/wing. Nothing wrong with that. Mix in a few drives the hoop and grab some rebounds (things he's already shown he can do pretty well) and you have a solid contributor.
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on April 06, 2025, 10:13:48 AMTre can carve out a role as a tough, defensive-minded player that will more than likely come off the bench and guard the other team's best offensive guard/wing. Nothing wrong with that. Mix in a few drives the hoop and grab some rebounds (things he's already shown he can do pretty well) and you have a solid contributor.
Yep, this is what to hope for and I don't think it's unrealistic.
If he can even hit 30% from 3 that would be huge but seems like he'd have to rework his shot over the summer for that to even be a possibility.
Tre knows what he needs to do to see the floor. Big summer of work coming up for him.
Quote from: MU82 on April 06, 2025, 09:54:12 AMSean had become a valuable, clutch part of the rotation before he got hurt. Shaka was playing him at "winning time," and he delivered. His 3 against UCLA was arguably the most important shot of the 2023-24 non-conference season for Marquette.
I agree with others that he needed work on several facets of his offensive game to be our 30 mpg floor leader. Needs to shoot better from 3, needs to develop a floater, needs to make better decisions more consistently, needs to hit his layups, needs to shoot FTs better.
Many of the exact same things were being said (and correctly so) about Tyler Kolek after his sophomore season. Especially about 3-point shooting, a float game and finishing. Some players can improve significantly through hard work and good coaching - TK proved that. Some players, no matter how hard they work, are never gonna improve some parts of their game. Hopefully, Sean falls into the former category.
Kolek had incredible PG instincts. Even when he was turning the ball over a little too often or getting upset with himself for not making shots, his court vision and awareness already were exemplary. What little we've seen of Sean, that hasn't been on display, so we'll see.
From TV appearances and highlight videos, Nigel James seems to possess many of the traits that outstanding PGs need, so I feel pretty good about the position going forward.
It sounds like we need Kolek and Howard to come back and put Sean in a blender.
Quote from: forgetful on April 06, 2025, 10:58:19 AMIt sounds like we need Kolek and Howard to come back and put Sean in a blender.
I don't want that to happen, but I would love to put Muggsy in a blender.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on April 06, 2025, 10:57:41 AMYep, this is what to hope for and I don't think it's unrealistic.
If he can even hit 30% from 3 that would be huge but seems like he'd have to rework his shot over the summer for that to even be a possibility.
Tre knows what he needs to do to see the floor. Big summer of work coming up for him.
Tre Norman has been at Marquette for nearly 2 years. Why is Norman's shooting form still not fundamentally sound?
Why did Norman's 3 point percentage and field goal percentage decrease from his freshman season to his sophomore season?
Also, Norman's minutes per game and points per game decreased from his freshman season to his sophomore season.
- In Norman's freshman season, Norman averaged 9.1 minutes per game, 3-point percentage of 18.9%, field goal percentage of 37.8% and 2.0 points per game.
- In Norman's freshman season, Norman averaged 8.9 minutes per game, 3-point percentage of 18.8%, field goal percentage of 34.4% and 1.9 points per game.
Quote from: lalumiere's architect on April 06, 2025, 12:08:16 PMTre Norman has been at Marquette for nearly 2 years. Why is Norman's shooting form still not fundamentally sound?
Why did Norman's 3 point percentage and field goal percentage decrease from his freshman season to his sophomore season?
Also, Norman's minutes per game and points per game decreased from his freshman season to his sophomore season.
- In Norman's freshman season, Norman averaged 9.1 minutes per game, 3-point percentage of 18.9%, field goal percentage of 37.8% and 2.0 points per game.
- In Norman's freshman season, Norman averaged 8.9 minutes per game, 3-point percentage of 18.8%, field goal percentage of 34.4% and 1.9 points per game.
Thank you for sharing information that everyone was already aware of.
Quote from: lalumiere's architect on April 06, 2025, 12:08:16 PMTre Norman has been at Marquette for nearly 2 years. Why is Norman's shooting form still not fundamentally sound?
Why did Norman's 3 point percentage and field goal percentage decrease from his freshman season to his sophomore season?
Also, Norman's minutes per game and points per game decreased from his freshman season to his sophomore season.
- In Norman's freshman season, Norman averaged 9.1 minutes per game, 3-point percentage of 18.9%, field goal percentage of 37.8% and 2.0 points per game.
- In Norman's freshman season, Norman averaged 8.9 minutes per game, 3-point percentage of 18.8%, field goal percentage of 34.4% and 1.9 points per game.
So he played 12 seconds less per game on average? What a difference!
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on April 06, 2025, 12:24:22 PMSo he played 12 seconds less per game on average? What a difference!
And shot 0.1% worse from 3.
Quote from: BCHoopster on April 06, 2025, 10:00:15 AMMU82, we agree on Nigel, playing against the best kids in high school makes him ready to play right away, the court being longer will help his speed as well.
I didn't say that. What I said is that he has looked good the little bit I've seen of him, so I'm hopeful that we have a good PG of the future.
Except for the very few special players, I've learned not to expect too much from freshmen based on some HS clips.
I leave it to Shaka, who starts working with players in August and who then sees them every single day in the gym, to know who is ready to contribute at a Power 5 level.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on April 06, 2025, 11:11:08 AMI don't want that to happen, but I would love to put Muggsy in a blender.
Wtf?
It seems eerie that we haven't heard much from Shaka.
Quote from: Stretchdeltsig on April 07, 2025, 12:07:54 PMIt seems eerie that we haven't heard much from Shaka.
Does it really? Have people not been around the last few years?
Quote from: Stretchdeltsig on April 07, 2025, 12:07:54 PMIt seems eerie that we haven't heard much from Shaka.
He's been interviewing for jobs
WHERE IS SHAKA?
Recruiting high schoolers. Re-recruiting returning players, planning off season work out regimens and skill building drills, enjoying some family time.
No news is good news.
...talking to all the great aircraft carriers and mid-range snipers in the portal...
Quote from: tower912 on April 07, 2025, 01:16:59 PMRecruiting high schoolers. Re-recruiting returning players, planning off season work out regiment and skill building drills, enjoying some family time.
No news is good news.
Watched both Oso and Tyler play against the Bucks.........do people expect a weekly press conference?
Quote from: lalumiere's architect on April 06, 2025, 12:08:16 PMTre Norman has been at Marquette for nearly 2 years. Why is Norman's shooting form still not fundamentally sound?
Why did Norman's 3 point percentage and field goal percentage decrease from his freshman season to his sophomore season?
Also, Norman's minutes per game and points per game decreased from his freshman season to his sophomore season.
- In Norman's freshman season, Norman averaged 9.1 minutes per game, 3-point percentage of 18.9%, field goal percentage of 37.8% and 2.0 points per game.
- In Norman's freshman season, Norman averaged 8.9 minutes per game, 3-point percentage of 18.8%, field goal percentage of 34.4% and 1.9 points per game.
Needs more to develop.
Happy bday Tre.
Quote from: MuMark on April 07, 2025, 03:06:33 PMWatched both Oso and Tyler play against the Bucks.........do people expect a weekly press conference?
Apparently.
Quote from: BCHoopster on April 05, 2025, 10:05:08 PMHas had 2 years to work on his shot, Shaka believes in development so he should be much better. If you remember 2 years ago, teams backed off him to let him shoot!
Lol now do Tre.
Quote from: Stretchdeltsig on April 07, 2025, 12:07:54 PMIt seems eerie that we haven't heard much from Shaka.
He has been busy sniffing around the Portal and talking to agents.
I see scoop summer is starting strong. Favorite time of year
Tre Norman played Portal 2 on steambox today
They talked about Gold having the best opponent defensive scoring percentage....AKA....Best on the team....(35%). I would love to see everyone's on the team.....I guarantee you that Norman's is about as pathetic as it gets.....I can remember him being in for 5 processions and his guy scoring 3 or 4 times.....And he got immediately pulled....Love to see the whole team numbers on that stat.....
Quote from: burger on April 13, 2025, 04:19:49 PMThey talked about Gold having the best opponent defensive scoring percentage....AKA....Best on the team....(35%). I would love to see everyone's on the team.....I guarantee you that Norman's is about as pathetic as it gets.....I can remember him being in for 5 processions and his guy scoring 3 or 4 times.....And he got immediately pulled....Love to see the whole team numbers on that stat.....
What is your deal? 4 or your last 6 posts have just been taking digs at the player who finished eighth on the team in minutes. Did he kill your dog or something?
We got some real sensitive dudes on X MU group, just got booted out cuz I expressed my opinion. Unreal
Quote from: MUWarrior4Life on April 15, 2025, 07:11:22 PMWe got some real sensitive dudes on X MU group, just got booted out cuz I expressed my opinion. Unreal
Got
Perma banned on boneyard for saying Liam mcneely isn't Nba ready. Bunch of clowns
Quote from: MUWarrior4Life on April 15, 2025, 07:11:22 PMWe got some real sensitive dudes on X MU group, just got booted out cuz I expressed my opinion. Unreal
Quote from: Johnny B on April 15, 2025, 07:20:52 PMGot
Perma banned on boneyard for saying Liam mcneely isn't Nba ready. Bunch of clowns
No one cares.
Quote from: The Sultan on April 15, 2025, 09:26:16 PMNo one cares.
You cared so little you decided to quote and respond. just move on then. You don't need to let us know.
Quote from: MUWarrior4Life on April 15, 2025, 07:11:22 PMWe got some real sensitive dudes on X MU group, just got booted out cuz I expressed my opinion. Unreal
Thanks for posting. I went back and looked at your old posts. I discovered a post in a 2010 thread. In that thread, I am calling out cranky guys, Willie is complaining about Bizz's recruiting, and someone else is claiming they shouldn't be criticized for being negative. I laughed out loud at how some things are eternal.
Quote from: tower912 on April 16, 2025, 05:34:39 AMThanks for posting. I went back and looked at your old posts. I discovered a post in a 2010 thread. In that thread, I am calling out cranky guys, Willie is complaining about Bizz's recruiting, and someone else is claiming they shouldn't be criticized for being negative. I laughed out loud at how some things are eternal.
Gambling!? In THIS establishment!?
Quote from: JakeBarnes on April 16, 2025, 08:10:11 AMGambling!? In THIS establishment!?
Yes eternally I want MY to get the best guys and compete for Championships.BTW, did you notice that I recognized Butler as a stud back then while others denigrate him
But I fo want MU to recruit the best. What is wrong with tha?
Quote from: willie warrior on April 16, 2025, 10:19:10 AMYes eternally I want MY to get the best guys and compete for Championships.BTW, did you notice that I recognized Butler as a stud back then while others denigrate him
But I fo want MU to recruit the best. What is wrong with tha?
Do not dwell in the past, do not dream of the future, concentrate the mind on the burning sensation in your nether regions, Dung Willie. It might be time to call a doctor.
Quote from: willie warrior on April 16, 2025, 10:19:10 AMYes eternally I want MY to get the best guys and compete for Championships.BTW, did you notice that I recognized Butler as a stud back then while others denigrate him
But I fo want MU to recruit the best. What is wrong with tha?
What language is this?
One of the fascinating "portal" issues that has played out during the past two weeks has been Nico Iamaleava's decision to leave the University of Tennessee. The reported reason was an alleged increase in his NIL compensation from $2.0 million annually to $4.0 million annually.
The good news is UT said "good riddance." The bad news is it happened at all. The reported catalyst was Mr. Iamaleava's "hanger's on", notably his father. While I get that parents need to be involved in their children's future, this strikes me as being much more like Hollywood parents who destroyed their children -- and their future -- over production money.
Can you imagine Tim Maymon, the Hausers or the Ellensons if there were bag drops involved? The thought sends shudders up my spine. Ick!
Maybe college sports needs a salary cap! I fear for schools that aren't at the top of their game with NIL, market presence and alumni support.
Quote from: dgies9156 on April 17, 2025, 08:57:29 AMOne of the fascinating "portal" issues that has played out during the past two weeks has been Nico Iamaleava's decision to leave the University of Tennessee. The reported reason was an alleged increase in his NIL compensation from $2.0 million annually to $4.0 million annually.
The good news is UT said "good riddance." The bad news is it happened at all. The reported catalyst was Mr. Iamaleava's "hanger's on", notably his father. While I get that parents need to be involved in their children's future, this strikes me as being much more like Hollywood parents who destroyed their children -- and their future -- over production money.
Can you imagine Tim Maymon, the Hausers or the Ellensons if there were bag drops involved? The thought sends shudders up my spine. Ick!
Maybe college sports needs a salary cap! I fear for schools that aren't at the top of their game with NIL, market presence and alumni support.
I don't
The hint was in the last name. I am a leava.
Quote from: dgies9156 on April 17, 2025, 08:57:29 AMOne of the fascinating "portal" issues that has played out during the past two weeks has been Nico Iamaleava's decision to leave the University of Tennessee. The reported reason was an alleged increase in his NIL compensation from $2.0 million annually to $4.0 million annually.
The good news is UT said "good riddance." The bad news is it happened at all. The reported catalyst was Mr. Iamaleava's "hanger's on", notably his father. While I get that parents need to be involved in their children's future, this strikes me as being much more like Hollywood parents who destroyed their children -- and their future -- over production money.
Can you imagine Tim Maymon, the Hausers or the Ellensons if there were bag drops involved? The thought sends shudders up my spine. Ick!
Maybe college sports needs a salary cap! I fear for schools that aren't at the top of their game with NIL, market presence and alumni support.
The kid is going to leave college with $6-$10M and be a first round NFL pick. He, despite his parents "destroying" him, will be okay.
To be fair, it was a really dumb decision by Iamaleava to leverage for more money and leave. It looks like he's not going to get a more lucrative deal since most schools have already established their starting QB coming out of spring practice. As has UCLA, who IMO is playing with fire here - and could be why a rumored deal hasn't yet come to fruition.
The time to do this was right after their playoff loss to Ohio State. But my guess is that he thought he had UT over a barrel.
Shaka is recruiting the family as much as the kid at this point.
Marquette won't be immune to something like this happening eventually but I think Shaka is doing all he can to minimize the likelihood that it does.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on April 17, 2025, 03:58:41 PMShaka is recruiting the family as much as the kid at this point.
Marquette won't be immune to something like this happening eventually but I think Shaka is doing all he can to minimize the likelihood that it does.
Shaka has lost no rotation players to the portal since he has been at Marquette........unless you want to count Greg Elliot as a grad transfer after year 1.
That is remarkable and in the current climate almost unprecedented .....I would think.
Quote from: MuMark on April 17, 2025, 04:20:59 PMShaka has lost no rotation players to the portal since he has been at Marquette........unless you want to count Greg Elliot as a grad transfer after year 1.
I want to count Greg ElliotT
Quote from: Jay Bee on April 17, 2025, 04:34:45 PMI want to count Greg ElliotT
Thanks for the spelling correction.......
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on April 17, 2025, 03:58:41 PMShaka is recruiting the family as much as the kid at this point.
Marquette won't be immune to something like this happening eventually but I think Shaka is doing all he can to minimize the likelihood that it does.
This is a very good point. But the question is whether this works and, within this system, how close can we get to a Natty?
I truly hope Coach Shaka is pursuing the right approach but only time will tell.
With the chaos and bag drops in the portal right now, I am not sure he has a choice. How big of a bag would Parham get? Or Gold? Or Owens? How much would it cost to get the equivalent from a mid major?
Quote from: tower912 on April 17, 2025, 09:26:38 AMThe hint was in the last name. I am a leava.
Damn but you're good at this kind of stuff!
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on April 18, 2025, 10:28:38 AMDamn but you're good at this kind of stuff!
That and 80s song lyrics. My curse.
Quote from: dgies9156 on April 18, 2025, 10:19:03 AMThis is a very good point. But the question is whether this works and, within this system, how close can we get to a Natty?
I truly hope Coach Shaka is pursuing the right approach but only time will tell.
I'm not convinced that
is a "right approach". Even if Shaka eventually decides to abandon his system (doubtful, I think), is there enough money to pay the costs to compete with schools like Duke and others? At least you wrote "close.... to a natty". Even when not specifically stated (and it sometimes is), quite a few scoopers seem to insist that not getting a natty = failure of Shaka's system. The fact that he may not do any better-or even
worse-with the portal conveniently gets ignored. This is patently unfair.
Quote from: tower912 on April 18, 2025, 10:27:52 AMWith the chaos and bag drops in the portal right now, I am not sure he has a choice. How big of a bag would Parham get? Or Gold? Or Owens? How much would it cost to get the equivalent from a mid major?
For these kids at MU, you have to believe MU is paying a lot for them to stay, and they are!
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on April 18, 2025, 10:44:42 AMI'm not convinced that is a "right approach". Even if Shaka eventually decides to abandon his system (doubtful, I think), is there enough money to pay the costs to compete with schools like Duke and others? At least you wrote "close.... to a natty". Even when not specifically stated (and it sometimes is), quite a few scoopers seem to insist that not getting a natty = failure of Shaka's system. The fact that he may not do any better-or even worse-with the portal conveniently gets ignored. This is patently unfair.
Dingdingding. The portal doesn't guarantee anything.
Quote from: tower912 on April 18, 2025, 10:31:13 AMThat and 80s song lyrics. My curse.
"Emotion's leaking out her pants all over town"