Let's do this...
Best time of the year let's go
LFG!!!!!!!!!!
Is that tonight. I hope everyone has fun and exhibits sportsmanship and fair play.
WTF? Aren't we on TBS?
That sucks for a jump ball
Gotta stay on your feet Chase
Also, NJJ was on perimiter and we had multiple chances to take him. Gotta go for it.
Can't get a rebound
Good Ben
Thatta boy Ben.
That pick on Stevie was weaker than about 6 I can think of in BE games. Good sign
Gold will be the X factor in every game the 'Quette plays in this tournament.
WTH was that Kam?
Cmon Ben.
Overhelping
Chase has to stay on his feet.
Kam needs to see a shot go in..and so do I
Our 💩 offense travels well.
Poor shot by Stevie
I miss the beautiful offense of last 2 years. They make it look so hard this year.
Half court offense looking...not great
Just the same one on one offense. not gonna score inside mcuh when the opponent starts 4 6 10 guys.
Quote from: DavidBoone2inchesTaller on March 21, 2025, 06:31:03 PMGold will be the X factor in every game the 'Quette plays in this tournament.
DB2!!! How ya doing???
We need to play with more focus and force.
Little discombobulated early on offense. Think this tv timeout hit at a good time, get some nerves out of the way.
Looking a little tight. I feel like we've been elbowed in the face twice already. But I'm biased.
D is fine, obviously have to rebound that gave them their first bucket and a Stevie foul
Offense is a disaster. Ben hit the great look from Kam which was good. Kam had a solid look but rushed floated it poorly.
Everything else woooooooof.
So far, not one MU player has beaten a NM player off the dribble. Bad sign.
Quote from: NickelDimer on March 21, 2025, 06:32:36 PMOverhelping
Totally overhelping. NM putting us in rotation. We look tight.
MU playing too tentatively. Need to bring more violence as Shaka says.
Offense looks rough. Need some paint touches to get the ball moving.
Ross needs to score tonight. And play in full attack mode.
Ben has to make that wide open layup on the feed from Jop.
We also have left shooters wide open to start. That's never a good formula for us.
So far, not so good. A poor start - what else is new?
Damn. Finish that Jop. Good set though.
Cmon Jop let's hit those free throws.
Not sure what we're trying to do offensively, but it's not there.
23 was dancing without dribbling
Jop playing well so far. 8-)
Sweet Jesus.
Kam giving the ball up way too easily
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 21, 2025, 06:33:55 PMDB2!!! How ya doing???
We need to play with more focus and force.
Very well! You Muggs?
Guy walked twice
Yup we got the I wanna ruin seasons Jop tonight it appears
I just don't understand why a Marquette coach can't tell David Joplin to stop taking multiple dribbles. It never ends well.
Big shot from Jop. Let's go now.
Quote from: #UnleashSean on March 21, 2025, 06:38:19 PMJop playing well so far. 8-)
Hey if I whine about him... he does better.
Excellent Kam!!!
The defense is not good early.
Gold!!!
Stevie isn't keeping Dent in front. See if Zaide can here.
Just grab that ball Jop.
What is there weakness.
10 seed?
Elete size
Elete offense
Elete defense
Elete shooting?
wtf am I missing they look like a one seed
Refs are letting them play. Should help us.
Also NW is a streaky team.
Just continue overhelping. It's so unnecessary
Well we've established that they can hit unguarded 3 pointers
Sure glad to see Jones still shooting bricks from 3
Two wide open bricks from Kam. Their initial dribble penetration is killing us. Stop the fking ball.
Nvm on the D being fine
Same thing we've seen for ever
Wide open 3s for them. Cash.
Kam. The shot ain't returning bud. Do everything else you do
Dent looks like the best player in the court early on.
Why would we expect this team to play any better in the tourney. Good lord it's the same crap every start of every game.
Quote from: Johnny B on March 21, 2025, 06:41:23 PMWhat is there weakness.
10 seed?
Elete size
Elete offense
Elete defense
Elete shooting?
wtf am I missing they look like a one seed
Your weakness is spelling.
Quote from: NickelDimer on March 21, 2025, 06:41:41 PMJust continue overhelping. It's so unnecessary
This is what is gonna kill us today. We are horrible at correcting this.
This over. They are so much better it's laughable.
Quote from: Johnny B on March 21, 2025, 06:41:23 PMWhat is there weakness.
10 seed?
Elete size
Elete offense
Elete defense
Elete shooting?
wtf am I missing they look like a one seed
They are playing us
Some very poor MU D to start again. Seniors need to step up. It's their show.
NM isn't a good 3pt shooting team but if we are gonna keep giving them wide open 3's from the corner, they'll shoot well above their season average.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 21, 2025, 06:42:58 PMThis is what is gonna kill us today. We are horrible at correcting this.
It's clearly what they're being told to do and I just don't get it
3/6 from 3. Not bad, but we shouldn't have to settle for outside shots.
Feel like MSU is an easier match up than this. This may be the worst match up in the country for Marquette
Same issue popping up and some new ones.
Give up offensive boards. Check
Same old 1 on 1 offense. Check
Jop turning the ball over on the dribble. Check.
Our defense is horrendous.
Lobos are 8-12, 3-4 from distance. STOP THE BALL!
Ben looked like a pulling guard blocking for Dent on one drive.
Z with the D
Playing poorly period. Need to settle fien and take the best shots and Defend!
Pass the ball Jop.
Joplin will be the end of this team
What the Fu ck is Joplin doing??
You cant get any more incompetently selfish then this guy
Our half court offense would be helped so much if Ross decided to play on that end
Ben!!!
Gold!!!!
The Ben game? I'm begging
Just as we expected, Gold leading the offense
Zaide also doing a lot of good things. Badly need him to get back to pitching in open 3s. But good D
Quote from: NickelDimer on March 21, 2025, 06:47:18 PMOur half court offense would be helped so much if Ross decided to play on that end
We need Chase. Badly.
I hate it when Jop drives.
Chase!!!
LFG!!
Gold, keep it going!
Playing better no. Maybe butterflies are gone.
NM is streaky. Thy will go from cant miss, to cant make. Just a matter of time.
Nee$ z Ross to start playing again
Might wanna guard guys driving to the basket
Stop throwing up wild lay ups
That's it Kam. Drive the ball.
Something up with Stevie?
Edit: nvm
Kam needs to calm down a bit.
Zaide needs to play as much as possible tonight.
JFC. How hard is it for us to inbound the ball.
"Marquette already with 4 fouls"..."Only the third foul on New Mexico". Huh?
Why can't we in bound the freakibg ball?
Nice we still suck at inbounding
Literally handing the rebounds to NM. C'mon guys
Hitting 3's is nice, but we need to figure out something inside or we're gonna have a rough time if the 3's dry up
Inexcusable not to get either of those rebs.
Lowery needs minutes over Mitchell. MU got back in the game with Mitchell out, he immediately comes in with an awful turnover. He's also getting beaten badly on defense.
Quote from: DJO's Jaw on March 21, 2025, 06:53:22 PMHitting 3's is nice, but we need to figure out something inside or we're gonna have a rough time if the 3's dry up
1000% this
The 3s are fun, but they will dry up. Have to get to the basket. How are we smaller and less athletic than a mid-major?
5 turns so far for MU is way, way, too many. All unforced by my count.
We are playing a bit timid/scared
NM with bully ball.
Awful turnovers on our part.
Only saving grace is Ben 3s and some how we are only down 3.
If we don't turn this around soon it will be lights out.
This team is a mess, either a crazy layup attempt or a three, never gets easy baskets.
And Nelly travels on almost every one of his post moves.
Yea for all the whining about Jop.....Stevie has been terrible, bad turnover and getting killed on d. Him being a spark plug is so key to some of our big wins
Not playing well on either end but only down three
Quote from: Dish on March 21, 2025, 06:53:57 PMLowery needs minutes over Mitchell. MU got back in the game with Mitchell out, he immediately comes in with an awful turnover. He's also getting beaten badly on defense.
Stevie is the heartbeat of the team, but so far he's been off his game. Need him to find his mojo. Team overall is tight and overhelping.
Right now we look like 5 carp in Lake Michigan fightin' over the same piece of corn. Our offense needs to fix itself. We need some structure.
Cut it to 19-18 with momentum. Force a TO.
Get the ball,
Kam wild lay up.
Bad d lets them drive to score.
Chase wild lay up.
Cant inbound under hoop again.
Allow multiple O boards.
Now they are up 3 shooting 2 like 3 possessions later.
Our offense is pray we actually hit 3s we don't 90% of the year
Kam has to figure it out. IMMEDIATELY! 1-5 early.
That would not have been a Big East game foul
Lobos make free throw MU misses
Why is Owens playing
Wow. Make a FT! Especially when we got a call.
Quote from: Elonsmusk on March 21, 2025, 06:52:12 PMJFC. How hard is it for us to inbound the ball.
A senior at that
They make 2 free throws
We miss 2 free throws
Just doesn't stop.
Our FT shooting is so f'n gross
Good thing free throws don't matter.
Under 50 percent from the line again this game?
Miss more fucking free throws - you can practice them all you want watching the rest of the tourney.
It's time to wake the F up.
Quote from: Markusquette on March 21, 2025, 06:57:40 PMWhy is Owens playing
Its his birthday
Same reason why Jop is allowed to kamikazee big games. Culture
Quote from: MUEng92 on March 21, 2025, 06:57:26 PMThat would not have been a Big East game foul
Does anyone remember the days when the Big East had a 6 foul limit because it was so physical? Amazing days.
Man, we are playing so frantic. I don't even think it's anything New Mexico is doing, we're just so messed up mentally right now.
Need a time-out.
Back down 8
Kam is awful trying to score. Has to quickly decide how limp he wants to go out.
Just a pathetic performance from the team so far
Bad free throw shooting. Check.
We may be toast. Stevie, Kam, and Jop are still at the hotel room.
Quote from: DJO's Jaw on March 21, 2025, 06:59:10 PMMan, we are playing so frantic. I don't even think it's anything New Mexico is doing, we're just so messed up mentally right now.
Just broken in the half court
Zero movement on offense.
Not fixing issues that have been here since January is a massive problem.
Quote from: DJO's Jaw on March 21, 2025, 06:59:10 PMMan, we are playing so frantic. I don't even think it's anything New Mexico is doing, we're just so messed up mentally right now.
Right now?
Its been 3 months of this
Delusional blowhards just don't wanna call it how it is
The offense is just pitiful in all facets except Ben's 3-point shooting
This is so easy for New Mexico there just laughing
2nd on Joseph.
1/5 at the line. comical
It would be nice to take advantage of these fouls we don't normally get
Will we ever make a FT?
Missing FTs.
Stagnant offense.
So far we deserve to lose this game
Tom of turnovers and missed free throws. Wash, Rinse, Repeat.
FREE THROWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Very similar to the home uconn game except Ben has hit some 3s.
Make these 2 Kam.
Wtf was the scout for this game?
Soooo our offense can't be Gold 3's lmao
Here comes a Kam FT miss.
Quote from: Johnny B on March 21, 2025, 07:00:45 PMThis is so easy for New Mexico there just laughing
I'm not even sure New Mexico should be in the Union and they are beating the great 'Quette? WTF?
Wow. Blatant forearm shove and just a 1 and 1?
Let's go Warriors!!!!
Let's go now!! Good D there.
We are incompetent on the inbound
Refocus Ben.
I love Kam, but I miss Tyler
Quote from: NickelDimer on March 21, 2025, 07:02:45 PMSoooo our offense can't be Gold 3's lmao
Or maybe it is
The offense cannot just be dribble drive and kick to Gold for 3s.
New Mexico is very streaky. Relax and take a deep breath everyone. Positive Energy!
Unbelievable, multiple turnovers on inbounds passes.
Can't even fucking inbound to scared
We can't even fucking inbound in the ncaa tourney.
Nice inbounding. lol lol lol
Shaka has the worst inbound plays in the country
Quote from: CountryRoads on March 21, 2025, 07:04:09 PMWe are incompetent on the inbound
I guess Im on a delay. That fking can't happen. Inexcusable.
Another OOB turnover
Do we practice Fu CKING inbounding at all?!?!
Holy sh it.
Any momentum we get we do something goddamn dumb.
Gold is finding instant law of wide open average too
Our inbounding problems is on Shaka. Terrible inbound play designs. Can't have 2 TOs on inbounds in 1 half. So frustrating.
Some decent Norman minutes.
What happened to our inbounding? Didn't we just used to toss it up to Ben?
Getting outcoached by Rick Pitino is one thing ...
Why are all of our shots at the rim from impossible angles ?
Another missed lay up
Just not a single guy wants it.
Tired of seeing scoring drought timer.
This is the same squad playing the same way that struggled through the conference
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 21, 2025, 07:05:31 PMI guess Im on a delay. That fking can't happen. Inexcusable.
I'm at the game so no delay hah. You can see them coming before they happen.
They are so much better at most positions am I crazy?
I love how the announcers were drooling over Dent while Chase was shutting him down.
New Mexico is doing exactly what they want in this one. I'm sure they'd like to convert more, but they are controlling this whole half.
Not a good sign at all.
This team is really predictable in all the worst ways
The seniors are picking a bad night to have bad games. They need to get their minds right at the half.
"Joplin chisels his way to the cup". WTF!!!! This announcer guy!
Quote from: Pakuni on March 21, 2025, 07:06:06 PMGetting outcoached by Rick Pitino is one thing ...
Why is it out coached? you expect them to beat better faster bigger players at every position shut up
Quote from: forgetful on March 21, 2025, 07:05:56 PMOur inbounding problems is on Shaka. Terrible inbound play designs. Can't have 2 TOs on inbounds in 1 half. So frustrating.
Well said. It simply cannot happen. Ever.
Quote from: MUEng92 on March 21, 2025, 07:07:18 PMI love how the announcers were drooling over Dent while Chase was shutting him down.
He's forcing shots sure, but he's setting up everyone else perfectly.
This is the bad half
I am SO fing sick of our pathetic BoOB plays. Shaka is AWOL on this issue.
Watching this team on offense is so damn painful.
I don't even thing New Mexico has played that well so far, we're just playing awful
Positive thoughts, they've scored more than 14 points in the half
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 21, 2025, 07:07:31 PMNew Mexico is doing exactly what they want in this one. I'm sure they'd like to convert more, but they are controlling this whole half.
Not a good sign at all.
Streaky team my friend and they have an offense that is not the most effiecient (80-something). It is just a matter of time before they crash. The 'Quette just needs to keep up the pressure without overplaying the strong side. The game will come to us.
Not to pile on but yeah our inbounding woes are squarely on SS and inexcusable
Quote from: Johnny B on March 21, 2025, 07:07:50 PMWhy is it out coached? you expect them to beat better faster bigger players at every position shut up
Who is in charge of building the roster?
This is how we played the last 2 plus months.
Why did anyone expect anything different.
Kam has to get going.
Grab the ball!!! Fk.
How do you make a great defensive play and not get the ball
Quote from: Johnny B on March 21, 2025, 07:07:50 PMWhy is it out coached? you expect them to beat better faster bigger players at every position shut up
Can't execute an inbounds play.
Can't get an open look.
Come out slow/tight yet again.
Overhelping leading to open looks.
Who's responsible for this?
Still time to adjust, but New Mexico pretty clearly better prepped for this one. They're playing their game better than we're playing ours.
Zaide!!
Sure miss the days when they use to drive on the floor for loose balls
Shaka, push the tempo. Run these pricks. We play into their hands.
Quote from: DJO's Jaw on March 21, 2025, 07:09:42 PMI don't even thing New Mexico has played that well so far, we're just playing awful
They aren't but they don't have to with how easy it is to score and defend
Well we're clearly playing about our D+ game but hanging around so there's that
Every single time with this team.
Momentume down 3.
Give up a bucket. Parham stuffed at the rim. Run out. Down 7.
We cant even ask to have our balls tickled for a like a nice 14-4 run or something.
Quote from: Pakuni on March 21, 2025, 07:11:11 PMCan't execute an inbounds play.
Can't get an open look.
Come out slow/tight yet again.
Overhelping leading to open looks.
Who's responsible for this?
Still time to adjust, but New Mexico pretty clearly better prepped for this one.
wojo
Quote from: Pakuni on March 21, 2025, 07:11:11 PMCan't execute an inbounds play.
Can't get an open look.
Come out slow/tight yet again.
Overhelping leading to open looks.
Who's responsible for this?
Still time to adjust, but New Mexico pretty clearly better prepped for this one.
I don't understand the overpressuring 35 feet from the rim as well.
Quote from: Johnny B on March 21, 2025, 07:07:50 PMWhy is it out coached? you expect them to beat better faster bigger players at every position shut up
Why is New Mexico able to build a better roster at every position with our resources?
Quote from: Big Papi on March 21, 2025, 07:10:21 PMThis is how we played the last 2 plus months.
Why did anyone expect anything different.
The Bog East hasn't looked too shabby and I was one who kinda thought getting out of conference would help, but yea so far this is disappointing
Quote from: GB Warrior on March 21, 2025, 07:13:48 PMWhy is New Mexico able to build a better roster at every position with our resources?
sometimes u get lucky
I'm at a loss for words.
Quote from: Big Papi on March 21, 2025, 07:10:21 PMThis is how we played the last 2 plus months.
Why did anyone expect anything different.
Nailed it
Offense is standing around watching each other. Not good. Need need some motion guys! Move it! Move the ball and bodies! Let's Go Marquette!
Welp, looking for positives, and just about the only I can come up with is we cannot play much worse and we're still in the game. What a brutal first 18 mins.
Quote from: GB Warrior on March 21, 2025, 07:13:48 PMWhy is New Mexico able to build a better roster at every position with our resources?
Yup...And they lost Tonje to WI or they'd be stacked
Kam will get it going.
Love this team
Jop. Thank you!!!
Big shot there from Jop.
Nice TO, Richard.
New Mexico, horrendous TO out of a time out.
Do we make them pay?
No. Ross who is a catch and shoot guy, pump fakes and bricks. They go down and drill a 3.
So now we call time out with 30 seconds left in the half??? Shaka's use of timeouts is mind boggling.
Game is over you can just feel New Mexico is gonna shoot 55% from 3. Thought they were bad
Hamilton appears
Quote from: Johnny B on March 21, 2025, 07:14:20 PMsometimes u get lucky
Quote from: GB Warrior on March 21, 2025, 07:13:48 PMWhy is New Mexico able to build a better roster at every position with our resources?
Are you somehow equating New Mexico's roster to the US border crisis? Are you saying NM basically gets a recruiting advantage because of the open border? WOW!
Quote from: Johnny B on March 21, 2025, 07:18:30 PMGame is over you can just feel New Mexico is gonna shoot 55% from 3. Thought they were bad
They are streaky. They do not have an efficient offense. Be patient.
Amazing down only 3 at the half.
Hey look, Kam's here
Quote from: DavidBoone2inchesTaller on March 21, 2025, 07:19:19 PMAre you somehow equating New Mexico's roster to the US border crisis? Are you saying NM basically gets a recruiting advantage because of the open border? WOW!
cartel money, bro
Should've been an and 1
Huge 5 pts to close the half.
All things considered, we're in decent shape.
Played poorly. Go into the half down 3. We got this.
Big bucket.
Seniors are gonna have to want it a hell of a lot more in the 2nd half.
Pretty awesome we were able to play that bad and only be down 3 at half. Need to get our heads out of our butts in the 2nd half, and we might just be able to get out of here with a win.
Time for those halftime adjustments.
20 mins away from either "most disappointing team in Marquette history" or "well, at least they won a tourney game."
Down 3 at half. Could have been 30. Let's ago Marquette! My feed just froze
2nd half is the good half. I hope the same can't be said for NM
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Yea nice to be only down 3, but man this team doesn't inspire a lot of confidence
Not sure if it's encouraging or depressing that we are only down 3 when it feels like it should be 20
Those 3's really helped us tread water. Now we need to get some easy buckets in the half court
About as good as you can hope for as bad as we played.
Hopefully, we figure out our offense.
We forced Dent into 5 turnovers.
Have to continue ratcheting the pressure and get Kam going.
Need to continue to hit some threes.
Quote from: MUEng92 on March 21, 2025, 07:18:59 PMHamilton appears
Shaka gets all the bench players feet wet playing and still within 3.
NM
Quote from: tower912 on March 21, 2025, 07:21:55 PMTime for those halftime adjustments.
Yep. That's what separates the boys from the men... see Bo Ryan vs. Mike Krzyzewski
Quote from: MU24 on March 21, 2025, 07:23:55 PMNot sure if it's encouraging or depressing that we are only down 3 when it feels like it should be 20
Maybe both
For us only to be down 3 is a mitzvah - let's get 'er done!
Their bigs have taken our game in the paint away. Shaka needs to recruit some offensive tackles.
I think Ross's refusal to drive the basketball makes me crazier than anything with our half court offense and it's why Joplin is forced to do it as much as he does
Quote from: NickelDimer on March 21, 2025, 07:28:39 PMI think Ross's refusal to drive the basketball makes me crazier than anything with our half court offense and it's why Joplin is forced to do it as much as he does
He just doesn't have the confidence or the moves seemingly: he has the body that's for sure
Quote from: DavidBoone2inchesTaller on March 21, 2025, 07:25:15 PMYep. That's what separates the boys from the men... see Bo Ryan vs. Mike Krzyzewski
And Shaka this season.
Why are we not getting the outstanding NCAA analysis of Charles Barkley and Kenny "Marshmallow in Quarters" Smith? I am very disappointed.
Quote from: Johnny B on March 21, 2025, 07:29:49 PMHe just doesn't have the confidence or the moves seemingly: he has the body that's for sure
Yeah he's not a great finisher but so many good things can happen from simply attacking and he's our second most capable after Kam
Quote from: NickelDimer on March 21, 2025, 07:28:39 PMI think Ross's refusal to drive the basketball makes me crazier than anything with our half court offense and it's why Joplin is forced to do it as much as he does
Don't complain - Chase is invariably OOC on drives and throws up shots that don't have a prayer.
We need to attack the basket and draw fouls..... of course have to hit free throws. Turn up the heat in D in half two - Must leave it all on the floor - We want to play again this weekend! Let's Gooooooo Marquette!
I'm sure I will totally regret saying this, but the refs have been great so far. Can the Big East hire them?
Think we need more Zaide this half.
Ben's first 4 attempts had nice arc on them; afterwards a little more line drive-ish. Also,
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I don't care for Blake Griffin or that idiotic ad.
Quote from: Spaniel with a Short Tail on March 21, 2025, 07:36:00 PMBen's first 4 attempts had nice arc on them; afterwards a little more line drive-ish. Also,
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Lost focus.
Faster closeouts
Take the lead by the under 12 at the latest and do what this team is capable of
Quote from: MUEng92 on March 21, 2025, 07:18:59 PMHamilton appears
he's being sent down to N Ky. He'll be recalled in '27.
Quote from: JWags85 on March 21, 2025, 07:37:55 PMTake the lead by the under 12 at the latest and do what this team is capable of
Sir, this is the game thread. We don't do calm, optimistic posts.
Quote from: NickelDimer on March 21, 2025, 07:28:39 PMI think Ross's refusal to drive the basketball makes me crazier than anything with our half court offense and it's why Joplin is forced to do it as much as he does
For a freak athlete like Ross, slashing and finishing should be a much more facile achievement. It's stupefying.
Kam, Chase, and Stevie all have to ball this half. It's that simple. These are guys with plenty of experience. Play with zero hesitation and trust your games.
Lotta experience/age on the NM side as well
Gold and Jop with combined 18.
Kam and Stevie a combined 7.
Need our stars to get it going.
Jop!
Jop's never seen a shot he didn't like lol
Man this Max channel is stinking -freezing all the time
Jop came to play!!!!!
Good D. Let's go now!
Dammit Kam.
Coulda had the lead. Nope! Down 5.
2 turnovers and run outs the other way
Gross
Last minute = no bueno
Stupid passes
Back to back possessions where we passed up shots to make bad passes. Ugh.
Quote from: jesmu84 on March 21, 2025, 07:46:17 PM2 turnovers and run outs the other way
Gross
2 horrific turnovers. Why??
Kam better get his act together or his last game is going to be a memorable one for the wrong reasons
Ridiculous turnovers.
Quote from: Pakuni on March 21, 2025, 07:46:40 PMBack to back possessions where we passed up shots to make bad passes. Ugh.
Exactly right.
EVERY SINGLE TIME.
Down 2.
Jop to the line. Misses 1. so still down.
Get a stop. Wild turnover by Kam. Bucket.
CHase wild turnover. Free throws.
Back down 5.
We literally have a forcefield of inept when down 1-2
Maybe that gets Kam going.
Kam, wtf?
Great D.
We just can't make that play to take lead. Get close and just can quite break through.
Missed FTs drive me nuts
We need the basketball gods to smile down on us for 5 minutes
Important mins for RP. I expect them to feed their big man.
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Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on March 21, 2025, 07:47:22 PMEVERY SINGLE TIME.
Down 2.
Jop to the line. Misses 1. so still down.
Get a stop. Wild turnover by Kam. Bucket.
CHase wild turnover. Free throws.
Back down 5.
We literally have a forcefield of inept when down 1-2
Well those particular turns were off the charts bad. Shoot the fking ball.
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on March 21, 2025, 07:47:22 PMEVERY SINGLE TIME.
Down 2.
Jop to the line. Misses 1. so still down.
Get a stop. Wild turnover by Kam. Bucket.
CHase wild turnover. Free throws.
Back down 5.
We literally have a forcefield of inept when down 1-2
Could be the sequence of the game at end. With ball down one. Two really bad turnovers, leads to 4 points and Gold's third foul also. Long way to go but Kam needs to prove he is second team AA.
Great move by Jop.
23 always seems to be on the edge of being spastic
Ben off the floor is a problem.
Love it Jop. Keep shooting.
Cut it to 1.
INstant and 1.
Jop!!
They pulled on Jop on the break
How are so much less athletic than this team?
Time to get over the hump.
Stevie just doesn't have it anymore
Great job making Joseph put it on the floor. Let's get it
LFG!
What is Gold doing there?
THeir bigs are killing us.
That's too easy. Joseph is hurting us a lot.
I'm quaking in my boots.
Jop again!!!
Jop!
What!! Isn't that our ball?
That's Marquette basketball!!!!
Lfg Zaide!!!!!
Zaide!!!! What a move on that basket!
ZZZZZ!!!! LFG!!!
Gas pedal time
Here we go finally some momentum!
Lowery is gonna be special by the time he's done
LFG!!!!
Keep attacking
Jop...use the force of all the negative Scoop posts of the last 4 years (many, many of mine) and shove it back in our faces
Good time out by NM. Need to keep the momentum nevertheless
Great anticipation by Kam on that lob attempt.
Now is the time to grab control of this game.
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on March 21, 2025, 07:55:01 PMHow are so much less athletic than this team?
Apologies to Zaide for this comment
Do college kids today know what a long distance call is?
51 50 this game is crazy.
Damn. Get a reb.
Jesus. We desperately need Kam.
Quote from: MUEng92 on March 21, 2025, 08:02:02 PMDo college kids today know what a long distance call is?
haha...maybe when they call their agent?
Rebound the goddamn ball and stop forcing wild lay ups
Really need Kam to show up for the last 12 minutes.
Is that really a shooting foul
C'mon Jones you gotta start finishing
The officiating sucks. Our guys get mauled...no call. The. They call that ticky tack stuff.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 21, 2025, 08:03:16 PMDamn. Get a reb.
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Hope Shaka saw how Pitino Jr used the time out to stall our momentum.
We are the worst air-ball defending team in the nation
Quote from: Dish on March 21, 2025, 07:59:22 PMGas pedal time
Yes, Dish. Time to push down on the gas!!!
It's so deflating to force a bad shot with a second left on the shot clock and fail to secure the rebound. I don't get it.
Kam not truating his shot is driving me crazy. Just plant, rise, and fire. Whether it be inside or outside the paint. This off balanced, one foot crap, is killing me.
That's now how you grab control of the game. Gave it right back to them.
On a stupid offensive rebound. They do all the work to force the miss and then just can't grab the basketball.
Quote from: GB Warrior on March 21, 2025, 08:05:15 PMWe are the worst air-ball defending team in the nation
Don't tell me there is a stat for that too
Quote from: BLWarrior91 on March 21, 2025, 08:04:59 PMThe officiating sucks. Our guys get mauled...no call. The. They call that ticky tack stuff.
Paging Sultan...
One of these NM possessions, Dent's due to get called for a push off. He's done it a lot tonight.
Quote from: mugrad_89 on March 21, 2025, 08:04:24 PMReally need Kam to show up for the last 12 minutes.
Absolutely imperative.
Quote from: BLWarrior91 on March 21, 2025, 08:04:59 PMThe officiating sucks. Our guys get mauled...no call. The. They call that ticky tack stuff.
I'd like a few more calls to go our way, but can't complain about the officiating right now. Seems reasonably balanced. They've missed some on their end and on our end.
Not a good time for tre minutes
Cooked by Richard out of time out jesus
WTF. Again, Kam passes up a shot.
Norman subs in and immediately gives up a bucket
And inability to get rebounds loses momentum so deflating
I call a time out right now.
Get up 3. Momentum?
Nope,. 2 o boards to let them score. Empty possesions. Now NM is back shooting to go up 3 at the line
Like cmon.
Quote from: forgetful on March 21, 2025, 08:07:23 PMI'd like a few more calls to go our way, but can't complain about the officiating right now. Seems reasonably balanced. They've missed some on their end and on our end.
Right after I say this, a couple no calls on the MU end and same thing called on the UNM end.
Game went to dog $hit ever since the time out!
Rebounding is our Achillies heel.
Is wojo coaching these OOB plays?
Kam HAS to get going.
We make our FT's we are up 5. But no matta.
Kam can get that shot anytime he wants.
Fk. 4th on Benny.
Would gold just fricken box out?
Cmon Ben cant two arm push him
More Kam back downs please
We just can't finish defensive possessions with a clean rebound
Let's go now!
Jeez Stevie is bad on offense
Thatta boy Jop!
Wait
Out on NM and no foul?!?!?
Haha cmon
Has Stevie made a shot at the basket in his last 20 attempts?
Oh....cmon.
Why the fu ck are we having Kam stand in the corner as we turn it over?!?!?!
Absolute trash call right there to put them in the bonus.
My goodness.
Well there's jop playing point easy turnover
Has Stevie really done anything in this one?
It like we are actively trying not to win.
Put the ball in Kams hands and go from there. Its really goddamn simple
NJJ winding up to hit Parham on the elbow. No foul. Meanwhile NM going to the line in the bonus. Lol okay.
I go and compliment the refs and they turn to complete trash.
Big issue right now is that only Jop and Kam have scored for us. Chase not involved at all. They looking for that spin from Kam.
Quote from: warriors141 on March 21, 2025, 08:14:20 PMHas Stevie really done anything in this one?
Nothing.
He needs to have his moment and it's gotta be leading stops on D or we are in a tough spot.
Quote from: warriors141 on March 21, 2025, 08:14:20 PMHas Stevie really done anything in this one?
I can think of three individual defensive plays but nothing on offense
This game will come down to FT's. Oh boy
The fact the refs called that ball where Parhman was SMACKED on the arm out on new mexico when they only thing new Mexico hit was his arm. Is hilarious
Wtf is that shot
We are we not letting Kam go
Ughhh.
64% FT shooting team of course shots 92% today
Jolp
Gotta play some D!! Dang.
Jop da man!!!
Sure do miss our offense from last season and the season before. This looks so forced. No interior passing
Good grief Kam. Just go straight downhill
Zaide>mitchell
Kam needs to step up bad
Fk.
F
Meh, this one's looking like it's over. Nobody can do anything except Joplin. Refs giving Lobos enough calls and swallowing whistles when MU drives
We give the lead back up every single time.
This team does not have the killer insticnt
Then Jop randomly drops the ball to his ankles??
Down 5
Embarrassing. The mid major is mentally tougher
MU had so many good chances at 51-48.
Dammit
We look like the mid major team.
Starting to piss it away
The fat lady is warming up...
We are not even trying to have Kam shoot
Fucking embarrassing strategy
Joplin got smashed. How no call? Crazy
It be a blow out if we weren't hitting tough threes.
They are weirdly better than us by a lot. Wouldn't surprise me if they made the Elete 8 good luck to them vs msu
Either score now or go home.
Yikes. Really seems like this one is over. Lobos put the lid on every time.
Shaka saying guarding the ball over and over again but nothing changes.
They have better players
This team has the killer instinct of a new born kitten.
RP can't be out there. If Ben fouls out move Hop to the 5.
Jop hasn't gotten any help. Period.
At least Jop gives a sh!t, warts and all. Don't let the door hit you in the ass, Stevie
Jones misses again
Quote from: warriors141 on March 21, 2025, 08:14:20 PMHas Stevie really done anything in this one?
Stevie is 1 for 7
Kam is 4 for 10
That's 5 for 17 with 5 turnovers between them.
MU starting to jack the threes now. Better start falling.
Bring back Lowery, Mitchell beat up or something, getting smoked by Dent and bring back Gold.
Dent stepping up, Kam stepping down.
Omg. Unreal miss from Kam.
I cannot believe that Shaka is making the decision to have the 2nd all time leading scorers in team history go out with 3 shots this half
Fu cking mental
Game over
God that hurt. Twice.
You have gotta be shitting me!!
The offensive flow to this team is awful. Perimeter passing and heaving a 3. Such a departure from the last few years, and way worse.
That's game
This one is over
lol
Embarrassing way to go out and a massive let down season.
Team quit months ago
Total meltdown.
Kam was awful tonight.
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on March 21, 2025, 08:23:53 PMEmbarrassing way to go out and a massive let down season.
Team quit months ago
They never quit.
Are you fucking kidding me right now?
Holy Fuk - 10-0 run it matters the most. This sums his team up. Disappointing but puts the cap on a most disappointing season.
Almost unimaginable thinking this was a top 3 ranked team at one point.
Shooting themselves in the foot constantly
Sigh. Oh well.
yes, game over, next NCAA tourney game is in 3 years
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This wasn't even a game. Took a Joplin miracle to keep it close. New Mexico laughed at how easy this was,
Still plenty of time. But that last triple from Kam begs the question what the h he's been doing the last 3 mins.
Jop went out like a complete stud. Happy for him
Trade Kam
Joplin's defense vs Joplin's offense
Dent is the best guy on the court. Credit to Pitino for getting him to and keeping him at NM.
Hopefully Shaka has a plan for '25-26. First weekend outs suck.
Shaka needs to do some introspection. Team quit on him, and he was content to roll out the same crap game after game. Maybe agents can help him find some guys that fit better.
What a terrible performance from a team with this much experience. Pitiful.
Jop played well, but had brutal TOs. Kam and Stevie just played poorly.
Turnovers killing us. Still time to pull this out. Need some legs .... Go D. Then let's score Marquette?
Quote from: Viper on March 21, 2025, 08:25:53 PMDent is the best guy on the court. Credit to Pitino for getting him to and keeping him at NM.
Hopefully Shaka has a plan for '25-26. First weekend outs suck.
Yeah...how many turnovers???
Overhyped imo
Ain't over till it's over!
Retention is pointless when it doesn't show up in March.
Quote from: GB Warrior on March 21, 2025, 08:25:59 PMShaka needs to do some introspection. Team quit on him, and he was content to roll out the same crap game after game. Maybe agents can help him find some guys that fit better.
Team never quit. That's nonsense. They were scouted well and didn't have a change up.
Yeah shoutout keeping massive holes in our team because you're scared of the portal. Culture.
Quote from: BLWarrior91 on March 21, 2025, 08:26:30 PMWhat a terrible performance from a team with this much experience. Pitiful.
And a coach with this much experience
Lets just have the all American hang out possession after possession
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 21, 2025, 08:25:29 PMStill plenty of time. But that last triple from Kam begs the question what the h he's been doing the last 3 mins.
Kam is so much better on the catch and shoot. Unfortunately, he hasn't been able to do that enough tonight.
Quote from: The Sultan on March 21, 2025, 08:27:18 PMTeam never quit. That's nonsense. They were scouted well and didn't have a change up.
Whose job is that
This is the most disappointing season in my years of being a fan. From top 10 to going down to mid-major in 1st round.
That missed foul call on the Joplin drive took 2 points out of our hands and gave them 2 the other way.
Should be a 2 point game. Total game alterer.
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on March 21, 2025, 08:23:53 PMEmbarrassing way to go out and a massive let down season.
Team quit months ago
They didn't quit. They just aren't that good. The team has been subpar for over two months. That's a big enough sample size to draw the following conclusion - Marquette is an average bb team this season.
Only down 6. We can still do this.
Quote from: MurphysTillClose on March 21, 2025, 08:27:22 PMYeah shoutout keeping massive holes in our team because you're scared of the portal. Culture.
No one is scared of the portal.
Quote from: BLWarrior91 on March 21, 2025, 08:26:30 PMWhat a terrible performance from a team with this much experience. Pitiful.
what happened to November/December MU?
what I miss?
Weak a$$ team and weak a$$ roster construction. Thank God we are not taking transfers and we have this roster coming back. Upset.
no inside game-no balance, a waste of good guard play
what I miss?
Sweet Jesus.
Stevie and Chase on the court together provide no threat offensively. Need to improve the perimeter shooting ASAP for 25-26.
Boo
Ben is a nightmare.....
Quote from: Viper on March 21, 2025, 08:25:53 PMDent is the best guy on the court. Credit to Pitino for getting him to and keeping him at NM.
Hopefully Shaka has a plan for '25-26. First weekend outs suck.
He wasn't that great tonight. 8 turnovers. NJJ was the biggest impact. MU's bigs just can't hang
Missed travel there on Dent. Foul called with 2.2 on the shot clock.
Just brutal stuff.
Reach in foul outside the 3 point line with 2 seconds on the shot clock. Smart.
no transfers= less attractive program for regular HS recruiting
Gold is absolutely not who should be taking that shot. Idc if it's an open corner 3. We all knew he wasn't making that
Ball game...season. Next year I guess
Quote from: GB Warrior on March 21, 2025, 08:25:59 PMShaka needs to do some introspection. Team quit on him, and he was content to roll out the same crap game after game. Maybe agents can help him find some guys that fit better.
Sounds spoiled.
Yeah he is. Quit being a dumbass.
Quote from: Warrior of Law on March 21, 2025, 08:29:34 PMStevie and Chase on the court together provide no threat offensively. Need to improve the perimeter shooting ASAP for 25-26.
Ross was great last year vs Colorado. Way too inconsistent.
Dudes are playing like a fucking joke.
Looks like we are going home.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 21, 2025, 08:31:27 PMRoss was great last year vs Colorado. Way too inconsistent.
He's been the biggest disappointment for me this year. I thought he would be much more consistent.
Hmmmm....Weakest team since year 1. No doubt, no question, no excuse, however the silver lining is There is always next year to do better. Shaka has the program poised for huge things.
Benny brick shot don't make clutch shots. Not that many on this team do.
We have sent this script for months now
Delusional contrarians have tried to say its negativity. But sometimes its just reality.
Terrible offense all year, Nevada Smith has to go
Quote from: AlienWarrior on March 21, 2025, 08:30:38 PMno transfers= less attractive program for regular HS recruiting
Uh...what?
Team sucked in
Quote from: bradforster on March 21, 2025, 08:27:52 PMThey didn't quit. They just aren't that good. The team has been subpar for over two months. That's a big enough sample size to draw the following conclusion - Marquette is an average bb team this season.
the s
Quote from: bradforster on March 21, 2025, 08:27:52 PMThey didn't quit. They just aren't that good. The team has been subpar for over two months. That's a big enough sample size to draw the following conclusion - Marquette is an average bb team this season.
Team sucked in the second half of the year this is no surprise. New Mexico has an easy blow out if jop doesn't go ofd
Brutal. And extremely disappointing.
I thought Shaka and Nevada had the offense figured out. But I'm afraid that it was TKO and Oso that had it figured out and they're gone. If you don't have a low post game and you don't have reliable shooters and you aren't a good passing team I don't know how you score enough to won.
Quote from: mugrad_89 on March 21, 2025, 08:32:20 PMHe's been the biggest disappointment for me this year. I thought he would be much more consistent.
For some reason he's decided he's a shooter.
Unless the freshman are immediate impact, this team is going to suck next year.
Quote from: willie warrior on March 21, 2025, 08:32:29 PMHmmmm....Weakest team since year 1. No doubt, no question, no excuse, however the silver lining is There is always next year to do better. Shaka has the program poised for huge things.
I agree with this. I don't think its next year
I guess we shouldn't be too surprised by this loss. Not a very good team. Great game by Jop
Joplin was the only one who came to play.
Quote from: willie warrior on March 21, 2025, 08:32:29 PMHmmmm....Weakest team since year 1. No doubt, no question, no excuse, however the silver lining is There is always next year to do better. Shaka has the program poised for huge things.
Very poorly coached team.
Gold hit his first three shots in like 5 minutes. Missed his next six and didn't score again. Thought in beginning might be breakout game, but not.
Shaka's offense, live or die by the three, didn't work again, but not as bad as 4 for 31 last year.
team is unbalanced-no threat down low.
Imagine wasting Kam Jones cause you don't want to use the portal. Hilarious.
It's weird that I felt no confidence going into this game. The big east showing really deflated the optimism about a March run.
Game not over.
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on March 21, 2025, 08:33:12 PMUnless the freshman are immediate impact, this team is going to suck next year.
Tre is starting why u say that
Quote from: The Sultan on March 21, 2025, 08:27:18 PMTeam never quit. That's nonsense. They were scouted well and didn't have a change up.
I think this was always a pretty flawed team that had Kam playing at his peak for the non-conference. He's not playing at that level and the rest of the team isn't able to make up.
The bottom line is Kam losing his confidence in his J was essentially the death of this season. It changes everything for us and he never found his J after Dec.
I was quietly on Shaka's side of the no transfer thing because it was noble and it was working. I've quietly moved to he other side now
Fire Wojo
Quote from: Johnny B on March 21, 2025, 08:34:30 PMTre is starting why u say that
Watch what you say. Tre might be better than the 5'8" guy.
Joke of a team that quit in January.
No that is matters, but how had NMU only been called for 4 fouls this half with a minute to go?
Now it is
Quote from: MU24 on March 21, 2025, 08:34:08 PMIt's weird that I felt no confidence going into this game. The big east showing really deflated the optimism about a March run.
Poor Joplin. Nobody else showed up. This game is a perfect example of how poorly MU played over the last few months.
Quote from: cheebs09 on March 21, 2025, 08:35:00 PMI think this was always a pretty flawed team that had Kam playing at his peak for the non-conference. He's not playing at that level and the rest of the team isn't able to make up.
Wow. A reasonable, logical take.
We got manhandled the whole game. Tough to see
Is it better to have a clean program or a winning one?
st Johns hired slick Rick and is poised for a deep run.
" We are family" doesen't work anymore. No transfers mean less quality HS recruits. this program is in trouble
Quote from: cheebs09 on March 21, 2025, 08:35:00 PMI think this was always a pretty flawed team that had Kam playing at his peak for the non-conference. He's not playing at that level and the rest of the team isn't able to make up.
He's nowhere close to that level. If he shot 35% from 3 we'd be okay.
Time for Fairweathereagle to fly away until November....Being a fair weather eagle.
I'll brood for a few days but there's the bucks and the brewers who I can tolerate losing in the post season much better.
The Marquette players have been great and likable and Shaka as well
Bye Scoop, I'm out ...
Shakas teams continue to underperform in the tourney
Stevie with one of the worst ends to an MU career maybe ever.
Oso was bad in his final game, really bad
Stevie was a bust for weeks.
Quote from: AlienWarrior on March 21, 2025, 08:37:19 PM" We are family" doesen't work anymore. No transfers mean less quality HS recruits. this program is in trouble
This makes no sense.
With the season reaching a disappointing conclusion, I would like to shout out Jop as the one guy that played extremely well tonight. He's received a ton of abuse here, but he showed up tonight. Well done.
Maybe Shaka will wake up and hit the portal.
Bob Dukiet was a master at bringing Marquette teams back from down big.
MU has now lost to a lower seeded team 3 NCAAs in a row.
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on March 21, 2025, 08:38:17 PMStevie with one of the worst ends to an MU career maybe ever.
Oso was bad in his final game, really bad
Stevie was a bust for weeks.
Stevie wasted 4 years of goodwill in 2 months. I would rather he had a good excuse for how he failed down the stretch.
Quote from: MUEng92 on March 21, 2025, 08:35:13 PMI was quietly on Shaka's side of the no transfer thing because it was noble and it was working. I've quietly moved to he other side now
Why be quiet about? Oh I forgot, you will be shouted down by the board bullies.
This is. "Mid major " full of "mid major nobodies dominating "power" boys like Stevie gold and Ross.
lol they are mediocre as hell and won't be missed. Shout out to jop going out like a warrior: this team fucking sucks it's weird
And that sums it up.
See y'all in November :)
Maybe we will make one shining moment
I know the normal move here is to congratulate the seniors on a great effort.
But uhhh. Outside of kam.... wow.
Threw ball away on inbounds, classic way to end a disappointing season
Quote from: warriors141 on March 21, 2025, 08:37:44 PMShakas teams continue to underperform in the tourney
Thats three straight outs to lower seed teams.
AS mush as I like Shaka, he has a terrible tournament record, even with the VCU final four run.
Congrats to the Seniors on a special 4 years at the 'Quette. Thank you for bringing the program back to national prominence.
He's overrated.
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on March 21, 2025, 08:38:17 PMStevie with one of the worst ends to an MU career maybe ever.
Oso was bad in his final game, really bad
Stevie was a bust for weeks.
Love
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on March 21, 2025, 08:38:17 PMStevie with one of the worst ends to an MU career maybe ever.
He's overrated.
Love the kid as a person but when your starting 2 guard is zero threat to score it's a huge liability
Oso was bad in his final game, really bad
Stevie was a bust for weeks.
Feel some players started caring about the money and not about us or Marquette. Did not get in the passing lanes like in the beginning of the season. Players stopped grinding Go Marquette next year.
Much love Scoop.
Quote from: muhoops1 on March 21, 2025, 08:40:11 PMMaybe we will make one shining moment
Least nobody got a lottery picks balls to the face
Feel some players started caring about the money and not about us or Marquette. Did not get in the passing lanes like in the beginning of the season. Players stopped grinding Go Marquette next year.
Quote from: GB Warrior on March 21, 2025, 08:39:34 PMStevie wasted 4 years of goodwill in 2 months. I would rather he had a good excuse for how he failed down the stretch.
I bet if we had a deeper team he would have redshirted. Injured all year. Stewie is that dude
Quote from: Skatastrophy on March 21, 2025, 08:45:30 PMI bet if we had a deeper team he would have redshirted. Injured all year. Stewie is that dude
For his sake, I would just say so. Fck the 'no excuses' bullsh!t. The alternative is he blew several games down the stretch, including this one.
Quote from: KolekThrees on March 21, 2025, 08:43:29 PMRemind me never to look at game threads when we lose. There are too many losers in the thread when that happens. Much love Scoop.
how about little patience for season ending painful losses for guys to vent: stay off the board
Quote from: Skatastrophy on March 21, 2025, 08:45:30 PMI bet if we had a deeper team he would have redshirted. Injured all year. Stewie is that dude
Plenty of talent. Very poorly coached team.
Quote from: Markusquette on March 21, 2025, 08:36:19 PMPoor Joplin. Nobody else showed up. This game is a perfect example of how poorly MU played over the last few months.
5-8 in their last 13 games, with Ws over mighty Providence, Seton Hall and Georgetown. This was a bubble team from the start. Next year may be interesting. If Shaka bails, I wouldn't blame him.
Bon voyage to the seniors. I enjoyed watching them play.
Hard to have a team defer so much to seniors and have Kam and Stevie not show up tonight. Oh well, crap happens. MU needs to revisit the offensive and defensive philosophies. The weak rebounding and the weak finishes at the hoop need to end. Some of that is personnel. The offense needs to get more players involved.
On to next year.
I'm with Shaka 100% but this season is on him.
- team got worse as the season went along
- recruiting has been subpar 2 years in a row
- player development is lacking. This was a hallmark of early years but Gold and Chase took steps back as year went along. No one from bench stood up.
- we need a rebounding presence. Shaka needs to change his approach
Next year looks to be a rough one. If we are not going to use transfer portal, need to identify and develop talent. This is the year where Dhaka's ability to do this is being questioned.
EGBs and developing nobodies. It's all good boyz
66 points when we averaged 82 when we won. Shaka is an awesome coach who had a bad game.
Quote from: nyg on March 21, 2025, 08:40:45 PMThats three straight outs to lower seed teams.
Plenty of talent, just very poorly coached on offense.
Quote from: AlumKCof93 on March 21, 2025, 08:51:50 PMI'm with Shaka 100% but this season is on him.
- team got worse as the season went along
- recruiting has been subpar 2 years in a row
- player development is lacking. This was a hallmark of early years but Gold and Chase took steps back as year went along. No one from bench stood up.
- we need a rebounding presence. Shaka needs to change his approach
Next year looks to be a rough one. If we are not going to use transfer portal, need to identify and develop talent. This is the year where Dhaka's ability to do this is being questioned.
Hey look, another reasonable post in a topic full of outlandish nonsense.
I do think they need more size. I don't even think it needs to be someone who brings much offensively. A rim-protector and rebounder would be fine with me.
We don't have to lose to Michigan State again
Crean did not seclude the team when went to the Final Four. Shaka seclude the team in Cleveland. Ugh.
The problem was the offense. And the problem as been the offense since early in January. Deflections good to strive for. EGBs fine too. But you need an offense that can score points. Marquette teams in the past would having gotten the lead would have pushed the advantage. But everything comes so hard and every point is a struggle.
Some things got to change for next year. Just counting on everyone currently on the team improving at little will be enough for a middle of the pack BE finish and a bubble team if we're lucky. The college basketball world has changed. Either adapt or don't expect to be competitive with those that do.
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on March 21, 2025, 08:38:26 PMWith the season reaching a disappointing conclusion, I would like to shout out Jop as the one guy that played extremely well tonight. He's received a ton of abuse here, but he showed up tonight. Well done.
When we lose always one of the players get abused. Gold, tonight Stevie, to some extant Kam. At least we're in the tournament, but Shaka has to get some big strong guys that can rebound and have velcro hands.
These past few season have been fun, way more fun than the Wojo years.
Quote from: TheBlackJerryWest on March 21, 2025, 08:49:56 PMPlenty of talent. Very poorly coached team.
Actually the talent on the team has been somewhat overrated, IMO. Kam is great on offense but he's a poor defender. His FT shooting was poor. Stevie couldn't score and his defense fell off at the end of the season. Jop had a great scoring game tonight but couldn't be relied on to score efficiently more than once every handful of games and he turned the ball over way too much. None of them was very athletic. Gold was not a reliable shooter and couldn't post up and Chase didn't take the step up people were expecting. This was a good team. They met but didn't come close to exceeding expectations.
Quote from: Zog from Margo on March 21, 2025, 08:58:04 PMActually the talent on the team has been somewhat overrated, IMO. Kam is great on offense but he's a poor defender. His FT shooting was poor. Stevie couldn't score and his defense fell off at the end of the season. Jop had a great scoring game tonight but couldn't be relied on to score efficiently more than once every handful of games and he turned the ball over way too much. None of them was very athletic. Gold was not a reliable shooter and couldn't post up and Chase didn't take the step up people were expecting. This was a good team. They met but didn't come close to exceeding expectations.
That unfortunately is the same conclusion I have drawn.
Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on March 21, 2025, 08:55:41 PMCrean did not seclude the team when went to the Final Four. Shaka seclude the team in Cleveland. Ugh.
Why??
Quote from: The Sultan on March 21, 2025, 08:58:56 PMThat unfortunately is the same conclusion I have drawn.
who recruited them
Quote from: The Sultan on March 21, 2025, 08:58:56 PMThat unfortunately is the same conclusion I have drawn.
There's a way to quick way to improve it
Quote from: GB Warrior on March 21, 2025, 08:59:53 PMwho recruited them
I know who recruited them. But I have realized that four straight tournament appearances is a good thing, and I expect to grow from here. If my faith is misplaced, I will change my mind. But there is no reason for me to do so now.
I've seen nothing to indicate that Ross and Gold can be anything other than role players. Need a bench player or freshmen to take over in 25-26.
Quote from: Viper on March 21, 2025, 07:15:28 PMYup...And they lost Tonje to WI or they'd be stacked
Yeah, AND JT Toppin.
Maybe luck doesn't exactly explain it.
Quote from: Warrior of Law on March 21, 2025, 08:50:25 PM5-8 in their last 13 games, with Ws over mighty Providence, Seton Hall and Georgetown. This was a bubble team from the start. Next year may be interesting. If Shaka bails, I wouldn't blame him.
where would Shaka bail to? He recruited the team so assuming he's happy with what's he's got.
Quote from: Viper on March 21, 2025, 09:11:32 PMwhere would Shaka bail to? He recruited the team so assuming he's happy with what's he's got.
Right. I mean, you think he's going to Iowa or Minnesota or something?
Quote from: The Sultan on March 21, 2025, 09:12:19 PMRight. I mean, you think he's going to Iowa or Minnesota or something?
to be fair, Minnesota fans think they can get Shaka or McDermott easily if they wanted them
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on March 21, 2025, 09:13:41 PMto be fair, Minnesota fans think they can get Shaka or McDermott easily if they wanted them
So what?
Quote from: BLWarrior91 on March 21, 2025, 08:33:34 PMJoplin was the Antonine who came to play.
That dude was excruciatingly en fuego. We are so lucky to come away with a win.
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on March 21, 2025, 09:15:46 PMHe may think that's where they are going?
Is Warrior of Law a Minnesota fan?
Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on March 21, 2025, 08:53:14 PM66 points when we averaged 82 when we won. Shaka is an awesome coach who had a bad game.
regular season coach, sure. NCAA tournament record, however, is nothing the Bluebloods even notice. 3 first weekend outs. Gotta win more in March, imo. Next season...lots of Q's...anyone transferring out? Any coming in? Any inside game next year? Better shooting? Bench? Returning guys better? You know StJ's and UConn ain't going anywhere. Maybe it all works out.
Quote from: MUEng92 on March 21, 2025, 08:55:11 PMWe don't have to lose to Michigan State again
I guess we get that honor. Go Bryant!!!!
Quote from: The Sultan on March 21, 2025, 09:17:07 PMIs Warrior of Law a Minnesota fan?
No clue. YOu posed the question as specific places Shaka may go.
I poses the statement that people(definitely delusionally) think he could go there.
Couldn't be any more or less to it.
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on March 21, 2025, 08:38:17 PMStevie with one of the worst ends to an MU career maybe ever.
Oso was bad in his final game, really bad
Stevie was a bust for weeks.
gotta believe nagging injuries hampered Stevie. His shooting the last 10-12 games was just crazy bad.
Quote from: Viper on March 21, 2025, 09:23:37 PMgotta believe nagging injuries hampered Stevie. His shooting the last 10-12 games was just crazy bad.
I had two daughters. Stevie is still who I would want a son to be like if I had one. But, yeah.
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on March 21, 2025, 08:32:35 PMBenny brick shot don't make clutch shots. Not that many on this team do.
We have sent this script for months now
Delusional contrarians have tried to say its negativity. But sometimes its just reality.
be careful or you'll be labeled a curmudgeon 😉
Kansas, North Carolina and Texas all got bumped in the 1st round. It will be interesting to see how they retool their respective rosters. I don't see them being as patient as MU seems to be.
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There have been major mistakes that have crippled our team for the past few months and they were shown again today. There were three sequences in particular that doomed us:
1) Back to back inane turns by Kam and Chase in the 1st H when we finally got some momentum.
2) The for the the love of God get a fking rebound debacle, on two airballs when we were up 3 at the 12 min mark.
3) Back to back missed bunnies by Kam and Chase down 4 under 6 mins.
And to make matters worse when we have made those kind of mistakes, our response has been, and I'm talking all year long, to completely lose focus on tbe defensive end. Especially in transition.
New Mexico shot the last 17 Free Throws of the game.
Marquette shot "0" Free Throws in the last 18:35 of the game.
Maybe we were not being fouled But Is That Fair
Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on March 24, 2025, 02:42:03 PMNew Mexico shot the last 17 Free Throws of the game.
Marquette shot "0" Free Throws in the last 18:35 of the game.
Maybe we were not being fouled But Is That Fair
Marquette was 318th in the nation in free throw attempts.
New Mexico was 24th.
Trends played out.
Quote from: Pakuni on March 24, 2025, 02:45:48 PMMarquette was 318th in the nation in free throw attempts.
New Mexico was 24th.
Trends played out.
So why was that the case?
We are not a mid-range shooting team where you expect less fouling. Shots are from 3-point land, again less fouling, or in the paint. We dribble drive constantly in the paint.
Lack of a physical big and lack physicality in the paint on drives put us at a disadvantage vs everyone else. This talk about not wanting to take mid-range jumpers are great if you are physical in the paint. If you are not, might as well pull up for an open mid-range shot. I know blasphemy around here.
Going forward this team needs a physical big down low or players willing to initiate contact.
For as great as Kam was, he was not one to initiate contact down low. Always looking to contort his body for a shot and thus as the season went on, those shots became more and more difficult to make.
MU'S offense is all about 3's and layups. Other than Omax, MUnplayers going to the rim generally do not seek out or initiate contact at the rim. MSU did that very well yesterday against NM. But MU players consistently avoid contact. To the point that when they do get hit and end up on the ground, it seems they sometimes don't get the call. Stevie, Chase, Kam.
So, if I could make a mindset adjustment for the 25-26 team, it would be to seek contact at the rim.
If I could make a tweak to Nevada's offense, it would be more off ball screening and motion.
Quote from: tower912 on March 24, 2025, 03:37:43 PMMU'S offense is all about 3's and layups. Other than Omax, MUnplayers going to the rim generally do not seek out or initiate contact at the rim. MSU did that very well yesterday against NM. But MU players consistently avoid contact. To the point that when they do get hit and end up on the ground, it seems they sometimes don't get the call. Stevie, Chase, Kam.
So, if I could make a mindset adjustment for the 25-26 team, it would be to seek contact at the rim.
If I could make a tweak to Nevada's offense, it would be more off ball screening and motion.
I definitely agree with those adjustments. Our offense was way too predictable.
Quote from: tower912 on March 24, 2025, 03:37:43 PMMU'S offense is all about 3's and layups. Other than Omax, MUnplayers going to the rim generally do not seek out or initiate contact at the rim. MSU did that very well yesterday against NM. But MU players consistently avoid contact. To the point that when they do get hit and end up on the ground, it seems they sometimes don't get the call. Stevie, Chase, Kam.
So, if I could make a mindset adjustment for the 25-26 team, it would be to seek contact at the rim.
If I could make a tweak to Nevada's offense, it would be more off ball screening and motion.
I agree. I also think they should get Gold trying to score inside. This year Gold was effectively a 6' player on offense because he never took advantage of his height on a switch. He does not strike me as a player who is afraid of contact in the paint and he makes his FTs. He is also plenty quick to execute some solid fake and step through moves. The offense needs to make more diverse use of Gold.