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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: tower912 on March 17, 2025, 02:41:04 PM

Title: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: tower912 on March 17, 2025, 02:41:04 PM
Our moderator says we have some new guests.  I respect you keeping a low profile and trying to get a lay of the land.   A helpful hint:  don't bother.  Too much dysfunction, too many inside jokes.   So, go to the blank space below this post, grip and rip.   Hit 'post' when you are done.   Be prepared for sarcasm and attacks.  Don't take it personally.
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: Shaka Shart on March 17, 2025, 02:44:59 PM
How many of your alums from The University Of New Mexico Department Of Dental Medicine have contacted other poster's HR departments?
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: #UnleashSean on March 17, 2025, 02:47:33 PM
Quote from: Shaka Shart on March 17, 2025, 02:44:59 PMHow many of your alums from The University Of New Mexico Department Of Dental Medicine have contacted other poster's HR departments?

My god  ;D
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: tower912 on March 17, 2025, 02:48:42 PM
...as I was saying about the dysfunction...
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 17, 2025, 02:56:43 PM
Quote from: tower912 on March 17, 2025, 02:48:42 PM...as I was saying about the dysfunction...

Scoop is a well oiled machine.  Bad timing chain, but plenty of lube.
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: The Sultan on March 17, 2025, 02:59:50 PM
Wait. I thought we were playing New Mexico State?
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: fjm on March 17, 2025, 03:00:28 PM
How many Arby's are there in Lobos, New Mexico?
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: Scoop Snoop on March 17, 2025, 03:02:01 PM
Just wait until Rico shows up here.
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: Jay Bee on March 17, 2025, 03:35:19 PM
Crazy how time flies, but I think this is Pitino's 13th season as a HC. I think over those years he has a single NCAA tourney win (but only 32 losses!)
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: Lobofan505 on March 17, 2025, 03:39:36 PM
Hey all. Lobo fan here, heading out to Cleveland for the game.

Looking forward to this matchup.

The Lobos returned to NCAA postseason last year after winning 4 games in 4 days to win the Mountain West Championship, lead by a trio of guards and JT Toppin. During the offseason, guard Mashburn JR. hit the portal, and star guard House graduated. There was a point where the Lobos had John Tonje, JT toppin, and Donovan Dent signed up to play for Richard Pitino in the offseason, before Tonje flipped his recruitment to Wisconsin and Toppin hit the portal. Almost 3 all americans for the Lobos.

Donavan Dent has been terrific for the Lobos this year, the only player in D1 to average 20+ points and 6+ assists, and only the 14th player to ever accomplish that feat. He doesnt shoot a lot of 3s, though he does hit them at a high rate, but is prolific at finishing around the rim. Nelly Jr Joseph played for Rick Pitino at Iona and then transferred to UNM. He is a beast on the Defensive glass, and is a strong two way player. He is elite at hedging ball screens and has not fouled out of a game this year. As those two go, so do the Lobos.

The Lobos returned Tru Washington, lockdown 2 guard, and Mustapha Amzil from last years squad. Amzil has missed some time, very streaky stretch 4. The Lobos are 18-1 on the year when Washington scored 10+ points. 6'9 guard Borovicanin, grad transfer CJ Noland, and freshman Milicivic found out the usual 7 man rotation.

The Lobos play fast (top 10 in pace) and force a high level of turnovers and points off of them. They do not make or shoot a lot of 3s, mainly spamming high pick and rolls with Dent and Jr. Joseph. 

Should be a great matchup and excited to watch the game. Go Lobos!
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: tower912 on March 17, 2025, 03:41:06 PM
Thank you.
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: Pakuni on March 17, 2025, 03:42:51 PM
Thanks.
Unfortunately, your team is evil and must be destroyed.
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: K1 Lover on March 17, 2025, 03:51:42 PM
Knowing that MU fans are doing the same thing over there, I posted on New Mexico's discussion board and gave them a synopsis of MU.

Here's what the admin of that board said in reply to my post:

Well, I will make a quick attempt at this since nobody else is. We are a big team. Starting 6'10"; 6'10"; 6'9"; 6'4" and 6'2". We can be a tenacious defense when everything is clicking. Our 5 is an excellent rim protector and imposing physical specimen. Our 4 has some nice European inside moves but tends to gravitate towards the outside for 3-point attempts too often. Our 3 is often a great defensive player but brings little to the offensive table.

Our 2 is overall our best defensive player. He is really a ball hawk and totally relentless. When he gets on a roll offensively, he can be dangerous. Unfortunately, we cannot always rely on that. Still - whenever he scores in double figures, we are almost unbeatable. Our point is our best player overall and an All-American candidate. He is the real deal and will cause you problems. Not so much from the outside, but from the inside. He and our center thrive on the pick and roll and that is the offense that you will see us try most often.

I would say that our Achilles Heel is the bench. We have the bodies, just not the contributions that I would like. Still, expect one or two to help us out.

What scares me the most about your team is your ability to shoot 3's. That has not always gone well for us and is an area that I am sure the coach is working on. Too much 'hedging' on defense and not enough sticking to the chest of your man. All in all, it should be an interesting game. Once again, welcome to our site!
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: marqfan22 on March 17, 2025, 03:52:51 PM
Thanks Lobofan505.

Look forward to the game.

Always appreciate Universities that care about Hoops the most and I think that is New Mexico. Hope to make it to game at the Pit someday. It looks amazing!
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 17, 2025, 03:55:30 PM
Quote from: K1 Lover on March 17, 2025, 03:51:42 PMWe are a big team. Starting 6'10"; 6'10"; 6'9"; 6'4" and 6'2".

Yeah, I didn't realize it, but they've got 5 guys 6'9"+ that get minutes. 
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: MU82 on March 17, 2025, 04:28:19 PM
Our "ability" to shoot 3's scares all of us!
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: Jockey on March 17, 2025, 04:40:28 PM
Quote from: Jay Bee on March 17, 2025, 03:35:19 PMCrazy how time flies, but I think this is Pitino's 13th season as a HC. I think over those years he has a single NCAA tourney win (but only 32 losses!)

He should be coaching at Carolina. That record would get him a free pass to the Dance for the next 5 years.
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: TucsonLobo on March 17, 2025, 05:13:35 PM
Another Lobo fan here, been lurking this sub today. This is my first day on the Internet so please don't make any death threats.

The scouting report posted here on Paint Touches is pretty accurate and covers the objective measurements pretty well, so I won't touch on that aspect. Also, I don't know what any of those things mean so I don't worry about them.

This team is all about Donovan Dent, but it rises and falls with Nelly and Tru Washington. Before the loss to Boise last week, we were 10-0 in games that Tru scored 10 or more points. And Nelly is capable of a 20/20 game.

But neither are consistent. Nelly disappears for some games. He also dominates average and below average competition, but struggles against good teams fairly often. It's like he forgets he's 6-10" / 260 lbs and plays like a little kid that's afraid of getting pushed around.

When Tru isn't on, he tries to do too much, and will take a lot of stupid shots, instead of just giving the ball to Dent. But he's our best defender and will likely be guarding Kam.

So for us to win, we need at least an average game from Nelly, and a good game from Tru. Or at least not a bad game from Tru, and one of the other players to step up.

My money would be on our 6th man, guard CJ Noland being the one to do so. He can shoot it from 3 and drive to the basket, and doesn't do many stupid things. Plus he's built like a bulldog.

The other two starters, Amzil and Filip, have been not good recently. They're capable of putting up good numbers, but typically don't. That said, they're solid defenders and add good length. They can both shoot the 3, but are streaky and will take too many when they're off. They also seem to have a possession or two where they try to drive to the hoop and dribble the ball off their knee or something. But overall they're solid and a net positive.



Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: tower912 on March 17, 2025, 05:23:02 PM
Much of that feels familiar.
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: NickelDimer on March 17, 2025, 05:40:06 PM
Quote from: Lobofan505 on March 17, 2025, 03:39:36 PMAmzil has missed some time, very streaky stretch 4. 
Did anyone else immediately think this is who will inevitably get hot against us? Cole
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: #UnleashSean on March 17, 2025, 06:42:09 PM
Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 17, 2025, 02:56:43 PMScoop is a well oiled machine.  Bad timing chain, but plenty of lube.

Well of course we need lots of lube.
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: MuggsyB on March 17, 2025, 07:11:45 PM
Quote from: TucsonLobo on March 17, 2025, 05:13:35 PMAnother Lobo fan here, been lurking this sub today. This is my first day on the Internet so please don't make any death threats.

The scouting report posted here on Paint Touches is pretty accurate and covers the objective measurements pretty well, so I won't touch on that aspect. Also, I don't know what any of those things mean so I don't worry about them.

This team is all about Donovan Dent, but it rises and falls with Nelly and Tru Washington. Before the loss to Boise last week, we were 10-0 in games that Tru scored 10 or more points. And Nelly is capable of a 20/20 game.

But neither are consistent. Nelly disappears for some games. He also dominates average and below average competition, but struggles against good teams fairly often. It's like he forgets he's 6-10" / 260 lbs and plays like a little kid that's afraid of getting pushed around.

When Tru isn't on, he tries to do too much, and will take a lot of stupid shots, instead of just giving the ball to Dent. But he's our best defender and will likely be guarding Kam.

So for us to win, we need at least an average game from Nelly, and a good game from Tru. Or at least not a bad game from Tru, and one of the other players to step up.

My money would be on our 6th man, guard CJ Noland being the one to do so. He can shoot it from 3 and drive to the basket, and doesn't do many stupid things. Plus he's built like a bulldog.

The other two starters, Amzil and Filip, have been not good recently. They're capable of putting up good numbers, but typically don't. That said, they're solid defenders and add good length. They can both shoot the 3, but are streaky and will take too many when they're off. They also seem to have a possession or two where they try to drive to the hoop and dribble the ball off their knee or something. But overall they're solid and a net positive.





Ty and good luck to your team. 
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: wadesworld on March 17, 2025, 07:36:23 PM
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 17, 2025, 07:11:45 PMTy and good luck to your team. 

Why good luck? Not to be a jerk to our guest, but I hope his team loses. Just being honest.
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: GB Warrior on March 17, 2025, 07:40:40 PM
What is Richard Pitino's favorite type of fare?

Is it true his favorite Billy Joel song is 'Scenes from an Italian Restaurant"?
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: MuggsyB on March 17, 2025, 07:58:15 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on March 17, 2025, 07:36:23 PMWhy good luck? Not to be a jerk to our guest, but I hope his team loses. Just being honest.

My therapist says I should try and be more polite.   :)
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: Shaka Shart on March 17, 2025, 08:06:41 PM
None of them answered my question â˜šī¸
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: dgies9156 on March 17, 2025, 08:08:52 PM
To our Lobos guests, thank you for the scouting report. You have a good team and we're looking forward to a good game.

We hope you enjoy your one-night stand in Cleveland. It will be quick and painless!
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: #UnleashSean on March 17, 2025, 08:39:03 PM
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 17, 2025, 07:58:15 PMMy therapist says I should try and be more polite.   :)
Your therapist clearly isn't a dedicated marquette hoops fan.
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: Newsdreams on March 17, 2025, 08:51:40 PM
Quote from: TucsonLobo on March 17, 2025, 05:13:35 PMAnother Lobo fan here, been lurking this sub today. This is my first day on the Internet so please don't make any death threats.

The scouting report posted here on Paint Touches is pretty accurate and covers the objective measurements pretty well, so I won't touch on that aspect. Also, I don't know what any of those things mean so I don't worry about them.

This team is all about Donovan Dent, but it rises and falls with Nelly and Tru Washington. Before the loss to Boise last week, we were 10-0 in games that Tru scored 10 or more points. And Nelly is capable of a 20/20 game.

But neither are consistent. Nelly disappears for some games. He also dominates average and below average competition, but struggles against good teams fairly often. It's like he forgets he's 6-10" / 260 lbs and plays like a little kid that's afraid of getting pushed around.

When Tru isn't on, he tries to do too much, and will take a lot of stupid shots, instead of just giving the ball to Dent. But he's our best defender and will likely be guarding Kam.

So for us to win, we need at least an average game from Nelly, and a good game from Tru. Or at least not a bad game from Tru, and one of the other players to step up.

My money would be on our 6th man, guard CJ Noland being the one to do so. He can shoot it from 3 and drive to the basket, and doesn't do many stupid things. Plus he's built like a bulldog.

The other two starters, Amzil and Filip, have been not good recently. They're capable of putting up good numbers, but typically don't. That said, they're solid defenders and add good length. They can both shoot the 3, but are streaky and will take too many when they're off. They also seem to have a possession or two where they try to drive to the hoop and dribble the ball off their knee or something. But overall they're solid and a net positive.




No death threats as long as you don't run into any MU dentists or visit the wasteland that is Milwaukee, welcome
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: mu_hilltopper on March 17, 2025, 09:16:05 PM
Quote from: fjm on March 17, 2025, 03:00:28 PMHow many Arby's are there in Lobos, New Mexico?

This is important.  We were in Boston on a college tour .. and I asked the google machine where the nearest Arby's was.  46 miles!!!
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: TucsonLobo on March 17, 2025, 09:26:29 PM
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on March 17, 2025, 09:16:05 PMThis is important.  We were in Boston on a college tour .. and I asked the google machine where the nearest Arby's was.  46 miles!!!

I can't answer this question since I haven't lived in ABQ in 20 some odd years.

But if you're ever in Tucson, check out the Arby's in 22ns St. The Jack in the Box on Mission and Ajo is also worth the trip.
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: MU82 on March 17, 2025, 09:32:15 PM
Dent doesn't scare me ... unless we let Mike Torrez pitch to him!
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: Lobofan505 on March 17, 2025, 09:38:10 PM
Quote from: fjm on March 17, 2025, 03:00:28 PMHow many Arby's are there in Lobos, New Mexico?

I think we have 7 here in ABQ !
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: Viper on March 17, 2025, 10:19:22 PM
Quote from: MU82 on March 17, 2025, 09:32:15 PMDent doesn't scare me ... unless we let Mike Torrez pitch to him!
ugh...Bucky f'in Dent
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: DoctorV on March 17, 2025, 10:44:25 PM
I can already feel my frustration with Marquettes bigs, aka Benny G, stepping way too far out on Dent on the pick and roll while the big man runs straight down the middle for an easy flush...

Please Shaka, for the love of God, do not have the bigs overcommit on that P&R and let Nelly dunk all over our dudes heads.

I'm sure Dent is capable of going off for several 3s, but it seems like staying at home and making them take more outside Js might be the wiser play here in the HC.

How have the Lobos done against a zone this season?
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: Lobofan505 on March 17, 2025, 10:58:21 PM
Quote from: DoctorV on March 17, 2025, 10:44:25 PMI can already feel my frustration with Marquettes bigs, aka Benny G, stepping way too far out on Dent on the pick and roll while the big man runs straight down the middle for an easy flush...

Please Shaka, for the love of God, do not have the bigs overcommit on that P&R and let Nelly dunk all over our dudes heads.

I'm sure Dent is capable of going off for several 3s, but it seems like staying at home and making them take more outside Js might be the wiser play here in the HC.

How have the Lobos done against a zone this season?

We haven't run into a zone that has given them any trouble, but most teams in the MWC don't play much zone. Utah State runs an obscure matchup zone that gave everyone fits. UNM exposed it and beat them by 19 at their place and set the blueprint on how to beat their zone, by basically just treating it as a Man to Man. San Diego State gave them trouble on the road with high pressure and length all across the board and legit shot blockers. If you can pressure and then pack the paint, it will slow down Dent and Nelly and force the role players to hit shots. That's what a lot of teams have done- some successfully some unsuccessfully.
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: MuggsyB on March 17, 2025, 11:00:02 PM
Y
Quote from: DoctorV on March 17, 2025, 10:44:25 PMI can already feel my frustration with Marquettes bigs, aka Benny G, stepping way too far out on Dent on the pick and roll while the big man runs straight down the middle for an easy flush...

Please Shaka, for the love of God, do not have the bigs overcommit on that P&R and let Nelly dunk all over our dudes heads.

I'm sure Dent is capable of going off for several 3s, but it seems like staying at home and making them take more outside Js might be the wiser play here in the HC.

How have the Lobos done against a zone this season?

This is a concern of mine as well Dr.V. The overhedge drives me a little crazy. 
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: Newsdreams on March 17, 2025, 11:20:54 PM
I'm concerned
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: MuggsyB on March 17, 2025, 11:32:16 PM
Quote from: Newsdreams on March 17, 2025, 11:20:54 PMI'm concerned


There's nothing wrong with worrying a little bit. 
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: forgetful on March 17, 2025, 11:54:32 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on March 17, 2025, 07:36:23 PMWhy good luck? Not to be a jerk to our guest, but I hope his team loses. Just being honest.

It's just part of his 5-point plan. Step 1, lure them in and make them feel comfortable....Step 4: Employ Medieval weapons. Step 5: Profit.
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 18, 2025, 12:11:45 AM
Quote from: DoctorV on March 17, 2025, 10:44:25 PMHow have the Lobos done against a zone this season?

I'd be asking how well they've played zone defense.  Their offense doesn't scare me, unless their defense forces the "guardians"  into bad decisions.
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: Newsdreams on March 18, 2025, 06:46:43 AM
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 17, 2025, 11:32:16 PMThere's nothing wrong with worrying a little bit. 
But I'm very concerned
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: Newsdreams on March 18, 2025, 06:48:11 AM
Quote from: forgetful on March 17, 2025, 11:54:32 PMIt's just part of his 5-point plan. Step 1, lure them in and make them feel comfortable....Step 4: Employ Medieval weapons. Step 5: Profit.
What is 2 & 3?
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: UWW2MU on March 18, 2025, 07:50:31 AM
So the way I'm reading this, the Lobos scouting report is essentially a Marquette scouting report except for the 3 pt strategy.

Also, God bless the soul of any opposing fan trying to decipher the dysfunction of Scoop...
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: tower912 on March 18, 2025, 07:51:48 AM
Quote from: Lobofan505 on March 17, 2025, 10:58:21 PMWe haven't run into a zone that has given them any trouble, but most teams in the MWC don't play much zone. Utah State runs an obscure matchup zone that gave everyone fits. UNM exposed it and beat them by 19 at their place and set the blueprint on how to beat their zone, by basically just treating it as a Man to Man. San Diego State gave them trouble on the road with high pressure and length all across the board and legit shot blockers. If you can pressure and then pack the paint, it will slow down Dent and Nelly and force the role players to hit shots. That's what a lot of teams have done- some successfully some unsuccessfully.
MU doesn't full out zone very often.  MU will start out showing a 3-2 and then shift into man after the first ball reversal and/or zone cut by the offense. 
MU started the season switching 1-5 defensively.  Then teams started playing for it and forcing it.  Think Gold, MU's 5, matched up against Creighton's Ashworth while Kalkbrenner is posting up a guard.  MU has started hedging, helping, recovering more on the screen and roll.
  MU is susceptible to teams that aggressively offensive rebound.  Papa Pitino exploited that very well.  MU'S guards are quick and disruptive, but lack the bulk to keep Richmond or Luis Jr. from getting to their spots. Then, when they forced help, the weakside defenders were late to prevent the easy dump offs to Ejiofor.  (Using SJU as they are a common opponent)

MU gets steals from their quick, disruptive guards as well as random traps almost anywhere.  Not called from the bench, all player initiated. Trap the offensive player when he is not expecting it or turns his back.  Jump passing lanes.  9 steals per game in a tough conference that knows they are coming.
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: 1SE on March 18, 2025, 08:05:21 AM
Quote from: tower912 on March 18, 2025, 07:51:48 AMMU doesn't full out zone very often.  MU will start out showing a 3-2 and then shift into man after the first ball reversal and/or zone cut by the offense. 
MU started the season switching 1-5 defensively.  Then teams started playing for it and forcing it.  Think Gold, MU's 5, matched up against Creighton's Ashworth while Kalkbrenner is posting up a guard.  MU has started hedging, helping, recovering more on the screen and roll.
  MU is susceptible to teams that aggressively offensive rebound.  Papa Pitino exploited that very well.  MU'S guards are quick and disruptive, but lack the bulk to keep Richmond or Luis Jr. from getting to their spots. Then, when they forced help, the weakside defenders were late to prevent the easy dump offs to Ejiofor.  (Using SJU as they are a common opponent)

MU gets steals from their quick, disruptive guards as well as random traps almost anywhere.  Not called from the bench, all player initiated. Trap the offensive player when he is not expecting it or turns his back.  Jump passing lanes.  9 steals per game in a tough conference that knows they are coming.

Yeah, I think TOs are almost certainly the key to this game - we're not going to keep that big off the glass - I doubt NM has faced much ball pressure like we bring/have in the BE. We're 13-1 when we have 10+ steals - and 8-7 when we have less than 10. If we can bring the violence and get steals I don't think NM has much shot. But if it's a touchy whistle and we get early fouls which forces a dialing back of the pressure if could be a tough game. Dent has a bit of a sloppy handle (3 tos per game- but given high usage). We can get at it
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: TallTitan34 on March 18, 2025, 08:24:34 AM
These New Mexico fans are way too level headed for Scoop.

Ban them immediately!
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: Frenns Liquor Depot on March 18, 2025, 08:28:24 AM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on March 18, 2025, 08:24:34 AMThese New Mexico fans are way too level headed for Scoop.

Ban them immediately!

Especially in the long arc of Scoop history of other teams fans visiting....

Dayton, SMU during annual Buzz Coaching Carousel, K-State during the Wojo search, Badger trolls..... 
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: tower912 on March 18, 2025, 08:43:40 AM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on March 18, 2025, 08:24:34 AMThese New Mexico fans are way too level headed for Scoop.

Ban them immediately!
They don't hate MU.
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: The Sultan on March 18, 2025, 08:52:52 AM
Quote from: tower912 on March 18, 2025, 08:43:40 AMThey don't hate MU.

If you're not for us, you're against us!
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: Big Papi on March 18, 2025, 08:53:19 AM
The main concern I have with the way NM plays is that it seems like they are very good at driving into the paint and the one thing that bugs me about the way we defend is that we foul a lot.

If we get into foul trouble, I can see that being a huge issue for us.
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: jutaw22mu on March 18, 2025, 08:57:11 AM
Quote from: TucsonLobo on March 17, 2025, 09:26:29 PMI can't answer this question since I haven't lived in ABQ in 20 some odd years.

But if you're ever in Tucson, check out the Arby's in 22ns St. The Jack in the Box on Mission and Ajo is also worth the trip.

How's the golf in Tucson?
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: Jay Bee on March 18, 2025, 09:04:30 AM
Quote from: 1SE on March 18, 2025, 08:05:21 AMWe're 13-1 when we have 10+ steals - and 8-7 when we have less than 10.

#FakeNews #Lies
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: 1SE on March 18, 2025, 09:40:16 AM
Quote from: Jay Bee on March 18, 2025, 09:04:30 AM#FakeNews #Lies

Receipts homie.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/marquette/men/2025-gamelogs.html
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: BM1090 on March 18, 2025, 09:45:19 AM
Quote from: Jay Bee on March 18, 2025, 09:04:30 AM#FakeNews #Lies
Quote from: 1SE on March 18, 2025, 09:40:16 AMReceipts homie.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/marquette/men/2025-gamelogs.html

We're 23-10, so the numbers don't add up. But point taken.
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: 1SE on March 18, 2025, 09:45:49 AM
Quote from: BM1090 on March 18, 2025, 09:45:19 AMWe're 23-10, so the numbers don't add up. But point taken.

Sorry - 10-9 when <10 - last rows chopped by excel.
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: TucsonLobo on March 18, 2025, 09:53:58 AM
Quote from: 1SE on March 18, 2025, 08:05:21 AMYeah, I think TOs are almost certainly the key to this game - we're not going to keep that big off the glass - I doubt NM has faced much ball pressure like we bring/have in the BE. We're 13-1 when we have 10+ steals - and 8-7 when we have less than 10. If we can bring the violence and get steals I don't think NM has much shot. But if it's a touchy whistle and we get early fouls which forces a dialing back of the pressure if could be a tough game. Dent has a bit of a sloppy handle (3 tos per game- but given high usage). We can get at it

Agree; who ever forces more steals will likely win the game. New Mexico is pretty good at it too.

SDSU plays tough, high pressure defense. We beat them easily in the Pit, and lost by 8(?) at SDSU.

Dent's turnovers are a bit misleading. A lot of them come from great passes that the player isn't expecting. And a lot are from almost great passes that get picked off. I don't recall seeing too many turnovers from just dribbling.
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: willie warrior on March 18, 2025, 10:10:53 AM
Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 17, 2025, 03:55:30 PMYeah, I didn't realize it, but they've got 5 guys 6'9"+ that get minutes. 
Not too worry. Our guards will box out beautifully, leaving Ben to dominate the boards, while still draining 8 3 pointers
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: Jay Bee on March 18, 2025, 10:35:53 AM
Quote from: 1SE on March 18, 2025, 09:45:49 AMSorry - 10-9 when <10 - last rows chopped by excel.

You're forgiven.
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: Newsdreams on March 18, 2025, 11:23:08 AM
Quote from: TucsonLobo on March 18, 2025, 09:53:58 AMAgree; who ever forces more steals will likely win the game. New Mexico is pretty good at it too.

SDSU plays tough, high pressure defense. We beat them easily in the Pit, and lost by 8(?) at SDSU.

Dent's turnovers are a bit misleading. A lot of them come from great passes that the player isn't expecting. And a lot are from almost great passes that get picked off. I don't recall seeing too many turnovers from just dribbling.
Sorry, but neither I would consider great or almost great passes
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: Newsdreams on March 18, 2025, 11:28:15 AM
Quote from: UWW2MU on March 18, 2025, 07:50:31 AMSo the way I'm reading this, the Lobos scouting report is essentially a Marquette scouting report except for the 3 pt strategy.

Also, God bless the soul of any opposing fan trying to decipher the dysfunction of Scoop...
Scoop dysfunction?? WTF you have very low internet acumen.
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: muwarrior69 on March 18, 2025, 11:35:30 AM
Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 17, 2025, 03:55:30 PMYeah, I didn't realize it, but they've got 5 guys 6'9"+ that get minutes. 

It's only fair as we'll have 2 guys under 6' that will get minutes next year.
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: Newsdreams on March 18, 2025, 12:03:48 PM
Quote from: willie warrior on March 18, 2025, 10:10:53 AMNot too worry. Our guards will box out beautifully, leaving Ben to dominate the boards, while still draining 8 3 pointers
Meet Willie the ever whining, complaining poster who insults our players. Do NM board has an equivalent?
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: DoctorV on March 18, 2025, 12:31:53 PM
Quote from: TucsonLobo on March 18, 2025, 09:53:58 AMAgree; who ever forces more steals will likely win the game. New Mexico is pretty good at it too.

SDSU plays tough, high pressure defense. We beat them easily in the Pit, and lost by 8(?) at SDSU.

Dent's turnovers are a bit misleading. A lot of them come from great passes that the player isn't expecting. And a lot are from almost great passes that get picked off. I don't recall seeing too many turnovers from just dribbling.

One of our main contributors posted a link of Dent making a zip pass to Joseph after a pick and roll as he dove to the hoop for the slam.

My immediate thoughts were "well that's a great look, could cause MU a lot of trouble" and "that pass had a ton of zing on it, I can't believe the big man was ready for it and caught it"

Those two seem to have a great rapport, and Dent has excellent vision and ability, but he seems pretty cavalier and daring with his passes.
Morant used to be that way, just at another level. Our own Tyler Kolek was a wizard, but Tyler seemed to have a better ability to deliver it in the perfect spot and with a less excitable pace on the pass

I'll say though that Marquettes defense is very pesky, and long, and quick, and excellent at deflections.
This could and should give Dent a lot of problems if Marquette is to win.
I can see him having 5+ TOs if things go well for Marquette because he will start to force the issue.
MU can be bullied though, StJ did just that.

At the end of the day I think whoever has a better day from the outside shooting the 3 wins the game. I'm confident that'll be Marquette on Friday
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: BrewCity83 on March 18, 2025, 12:33:25 PM
Quote from: tower912 on March 18, 2025, 08:43:40 AMThey don't hate MU.
....yet!
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: LoboMan59 on March 18, 2025, 01:11:34 PM
Hi Marquette Fans! Please feel free to come over to my site to interact with Lobos fans back here in Albuquerque! We're looking forward to chatting about our upcoming game. Free to sign up!

https://foreverlobos.freeforums.net/
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 18, 2025, 01:15:52 PM
Quote from: LoboMan59 on March 18, 2025, 01:11:34 PMhttps://foreverlobos.freeforums.net/

WTF!  Can't even read without logging in!?!
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: Frenns Liquor Depot on March 18, 2025, 01:17:17 PM
Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 18, 2025, 01:15:52 PMWTF!  Can't even read without logging in!?!

Send them the angry mob from Scoop-prison Rocky.
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: LoboMan59 on March 18, 2025, 01:20:04 PM
Quote from: DoctorV on March 18, 2025, 12:31:53 PMOne of our main contributors posted a link of Dent making a zip pass to Joseph after a pick and roll as he dove to the hoop for the slam.

My immediate thoughts were "well that's a great look, could cause MU a lot of trouble" and "that pass had a ton of zing on it, I can't believe the big man was ready for it and caught it"

Those two seem to have a great rapport, and Dent has excellent vision and ability, but he seems pretty cavalier and daring with his passes.
Morant used to be that way, just at another level. Our own Tyler Kolek was a wizard, but Tyler seemed to have a better ability to deliver it in the perfect spot and with a less excitable pace on the pass

I'll say though that Marquettes defense is very pesky, and long, and quick, and excellent at deflections.
This could and should give Dent a lot of problems if Marquette is to win.
I can see him having 5+ TOs if things go well for Marquette because he will start to force the issue.
MU can be bullied though, StJ did just that.

At the end of the day I think whoever has a better day from the outside shooting the 3 wins the game. I'm confident that'll be Marquette on Friday
And that's the concern for Lobos fans. We are NOt a great shooting 3point team. Well hit a few here and there, but it's not our game at all. Coach Pitino wants our offense to run thru the middle and at the post. Priority 1 is to get the ball to the post  to Nelly Junior Joseph. He'll either take it to the rim, or kick in out if the defense collapses on him. That's where the problem is, we don't have a reliable consistent shooter from the 3pt line. Inside and the mid range game is where we line it.
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: LoboMan59 on March 18, 2025, 01:25:57 PM
Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 18, 2025, 01:15:52 PMWTF!  Can't even read without logging in!?!
Sorry no, I was getting inundated with tons of inappropriate spam ads/links, so I had to make it sign up. But it's just one time, you'll probably be deleting or never return after the game anyway, unless you want to comment on our 2nd round matchup with MSU!🤣 Come on over buddy, we want to welcome you there!
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: Shaka Shart on March 18, 2025, 01:29:02 PM
Quote from: Newsdreams on March 18, 2025, 11:28:15 AMScoop dysfunction?? WTF you have very low internet acumen.

Referring to Willie's erectile
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: LoboMan59 on March 18, 2025, 01:29:37 PM
Quote from: Newsdreams on March 18, 2025, 12:03:48 PMMeet Willie the ever whining, complaining poster who insults our players. Do NM board has an equivalent?
Yes his handle is 'angrylobo'. We've had to put him in timeout several times! 🤣
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 18, 2025, 01:29:58 PM
Quote from: LoboMan59 on March 18, 2025, 01:25:57 PMSorry no, I was getting inundated with tons of inappropriate spam ads/links, so I had to make it sign up

I'm just talking for guests to read (not post).  But whatever.
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: Shaka Shart on March 18, 2025, 01:30:48 PM
Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on March 18, 2025, 01:17:17 PMSend them the angry mob from Scoop-prison Rocky.

Mequon family dental clinic got renamed?
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: TucsonLobo on March 18, 2025, 01:32:23 PM
Quote from: DoctorV on March 18, 2025, 12:31:53 PMAt the end of the day I think whoever has a better day from the outside shooting the 3 wins the game. I'm confident that'll be Marquette on Friday

I don't think 3's will be deciding, unless Marquette shoots something ridiculous, like 18/30. It seems like the Lobos regularly made fewer 3s and shot a lower percentage in most their games this year but still won.

Turnovers and transition points will be the key for the Lobos.
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: #UnleashSean on March 18, 2025, 01:34:12 PM
Quote from: TucsonLobo on March 18, 2025, 01:32:23 PMTurnovers and transition points will be the key for the Lobos.

Should we tell em?
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: tower912 on March 18, 2025, 01:34:57 PM
What has been successful for MU opponents is to crash the offensive boards.  That is the achilles heel of the MU defense.
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: #UnleashSean on March 18, 2025, 01:40:56 PM
Quote from: tower912 on March 18, 2025, 01:34:57 PMWhat has been successful for MU opponents is to crash the offensive boards.  That is the achilles heel of the MU defense.

Having our best rebounder be Jop with 5.5 per game is pretty rough.
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: JakeBarnes on March 18, 2025, 01:41:29 PM
Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 18, 2025, 01:15:52 PMWTF!  Can't even read without logging in!?!

We got moderator beef. You should tell them about the scoop fee structure.
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: cheebs09 on March 18, 2025, 01:49:19 PM
Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 18, 2025, 01:15:52 PMWTF!  Can't even read without logging in!?!

They beefed up security once they saw we had a dental school.
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: TallTitan34 on March 18, 2025, 02:58:49 PM
Maybe the overinflated ball will cure our shooting woes from deep!
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: muwarrior69 on March 18, 2025, 03:40:29 PM
Quote from: LoboMan59 on March 18, 2025, 01:20:04 PMAnd that's the concern for Lobos fans. We are NOt a great shooting 3point team. Well hit a few here and there, but it's not our game at all. Coach Pitino wants our offense to run thru the middle and at the post. Priority 1 is to get the ball to the post  to Nelly Junior Joseph. He'll either take it to the rim, or kick in out if the defense collapses on him. That's where the problem is, we don't have a reliable consistent shooter from the 3pt line. Inside and the mid range game is where we line it.

I can see Marquette getting into foul trouble if the zebras have a tight whistle. Rebounding is our achilles heel and we certainly don't have the size to muscle our way in to defend and keep your guys off the boards. If the refs call the game consistenly on both ends we should prevail.
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: #UnleashSean on March 18, 2025, 03:44:07 PM
Quote from: muwarrior69 on March 18, 2025, 03:40:29 PMI can see Marquette getting into foul trouble if the zebras have a tight whistle. Rebounding is our achilles heel and we certainly don't have the size to muscle our way in to defend and keep your guys off the boards. If the refs call the game consistenly on both ends we should prevail.

Dont curse Kam into picking up 3 cheap stupid fouls 7 minutes into the game. That can only happen like..... 6 times per year.
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: K1 Lover on March 18, 2025, 03:53:37 PM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on March 18, 2025, 02:58:49 PMMaybe the overinflated ball will cure our shooting woes from deep!

Thank you for reminding me of last year's coping mechanism. Bring back deflategate!
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: AnotherLobo on March 18, 2025, 05:22:11 PM
Quote from: muwarrior69 on March 18, 2025, 03:40:29 PMI can see Marquette getting into foul trouble if the zebras have a tight whistle. Rebounding is our achilles heel and we certainly don't have the size to muscle our way in to defend and keep your guys off the boards. If the refs call the game consistenly on both ends we should prevail.

Getting your 1rst team in foul trouble may be our best hope to steal a win.  Even though our FT % is not great, a tightly called game probably favors us.  And we are pretty good on the glass.  I don't feel good about this match-up though.  From the limited footage that I've seen, your defense is no joke.
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 18, 2025, 05:26:53 PM
Quote from: AnotherLobo on March 18, 2025, 05:22:11 PMGetting your 1rst team in foul trouble may be our best hope to steal a win.  Even though our FT % is not great, a tightly called game probably favors us.  And we are pretty good on the glass.  I don't feel good about this match-up though.  From the limited footage that I've seen, your defense is no joke.

Don't worry.  Marquette doesn't have enough talent to compete in the Big East, much less the tournament.
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: #UnleashSean on March 18, 2025, 06:45:00 PM
Quote from: AnotherLobo on March 18, 2025, 05:22:11 PMGetting your 1rst team in foul trouble may be our best hope to steal a win.  Even though our FT % is not great, a tightly called game probably favors us.  And we are pretty good on the glass.  I don't feel good about this match-up though.  From the limited footage that I've seen, your defense is no joke.

The most accurate view of the situation imo.
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: Hards Alumni on March 19, 2025, 11:07:29 AM
Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 17, 2025, 02:56:43 PMScoop is a well oiled machine.  Bad timing chain, but plenty of lube.

Especially after 7pm
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: Newsdreams on March 19, 2025, 02:41:40 PM
Quote from: AnotherLobo on March 18, 2025, 05:22:11 PMGetting your 1rst team in foul trouble may be our best hope to steal a win.  Even though our FT % is not great, a tightly called game probably favors us.  And we are pretty good on the glass.  I don't feel good about this match-up though.  From the limited footage that I've seen, your defense is no joke.
Per Willie MU suxs, don't worry
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: MuMark on March 19, 2025, 05:56:40 PM
 >:(

https://x.com/evanmiya/status/1902490871511285896?s=61&t=6XPB8f4sAKmJIzxgMcsCjw
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: JakeBarnes on March 19, 2025, 06:09:22 PM
Quote from: MuMark on March 19, 2025, 05:56:40 PM>:(

https://x.com/evanmiya/status/1902490871511285896?s=61&t=6XPB8f4sAKmJIzxgMcsCjw


Well then I guess we win this as Marquette is terrible.
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: MuggsyB on March 19, 2025, 06:34:47 PM
Who on God's green earth is Evan Miyakawa??   
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 19, 2025, 06:38:09 PM
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 19, 2025, 06:34:47 PMWho on God's green earth is Evan Miyakawa??   

https://gprivate.com/6g3dj
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 19, 2025, 07:12:00 PM
Quote from: 1SE on March 18, 2025, 08:05:21 AMYeah, I think TOs are almost certainly the key to this game - we're not going to keep that big off the glass - I doubt NM has faced much ball pressure like we bring/have in the BE. We're 13-1 when we have 10+ steals - and 8-7 when we have less than 10. If we can bring the violence and get steals I don't think NM has much shot. But if it's a touchy whistle and we get early fouls which forces a dialing back of the pressure if could be a tough game. Dent has a bit of a sloppy handle (3 tos per game- but given high usage). We can get at it

I think its almost certainly going to be a quicker whistle that we've been used to seeing.  But quite honestly, I am very excited to play a non Big East team with non Big East refs. 
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: lostpassword on March 19, 2025, 07:59:42 PM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on March 18, 2025, 02:58:49 PMMaybe the overinflated ball will cure our shooting woes from deep!

OMG. I forgot about this.
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: TucsonLobo on March 19, 2025, 09:13:26 PM
For those of you haven't seen much of the Lobos, this video is a pretty good breakdown, with lots of Dent highlights. Though y'all might appreciate it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPMAuDbQVd8

And here's one from the same guy for Marquette:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRwlIwqP4z0
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 19, 2025, 09:18:09 PM
Quote from: TucsonLobo on March 19, 2025, 09:13:26 PMFor those of you haven't seen much of the Lobos, this video is a pretty good breakdown, with lots of Dent highlights. Though y'all might appreciate it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPMAuDbQVd8

And here's one from the same guy for Marquette:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRwlIwqP4z0

I stole gas in Tucumcari once
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: brewcity77 on March 19, 2025, 10:49:12 PM
Quote from: LoboMan59 on March 18, 2025, 01:11:34 PMHi Marquette Fans! Please feel free to come over to my site to interact with Lobos fans back here in Albuquerque! We're looking forward to chatting about our upcoming game. Free to sign up!

https://foreverlobos.freeforums.net/

Already there (as I'm guessing you've noticed  ;) ).
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: Hards Alumni on March 20, 2025, 06:14:38 AM
Quote from: MuMark on March 19, 2025, 05:56:40 PM>:(

https://x.com/evanmiya/status/1902490871511285896?s=61&t=6XPB8f4sAKmJIzxgMcsCjw

Well they won't be playing up to elite competition on Friday!

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Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: Jay Bee on March 20, 2025, 07:27:28 AM
Hope they struggle against free-falling dumpster fires!
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: Newsdreams on March 20, 2025, 08:43:24 AM
Quote from: Jay Bee on March 20, 2025, 07:27:28 AMHope they struggle against free-falling dumpster fires!
No early Thursday PB??
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: Jay Bee on March 20, 2025, 08:45:04 AM
Quote from: Newsdreams on March 20, 2025, 08:43:24 AMNo early Thursday PB??

No; played last night — resting for league tonight. #TopCourt
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: Newsdreams on March 20, 2025, 08:49:24 AM
Quote from: Jay Bee on March 20, 2025, 08:45:04 AMNo; played last night — resting for league tonight. #TopCourt
On Flowsports? Time?
Title: Re: LOBO guests, tell us about your team
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on March 20, 2025, 09:53:55 AM
Quote from: Newsdreams on March 18, 2025, 06:48:11 AMWhat is 2 & 3?

Step 2: ?
Step 3: ?

It's a flawless plan, similar to that of the underwear gnomes.

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