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Title: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: MuggsyB on March 16, 2025, 05:09:20 PM
LFG!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: MU/New Mex Game Thread
Post by: MUEng92 on March 16, 2025, 05:18:11 PM
C'mon guys, it's been at least 10 minutes.  Where is the NM scouting report?
Title: Re: MU/New Mex Game Thread
Post by: Pakuni on March 16, 2025, 05:28:00 PM
Quote from: MUEng92 on March 16, 2025, 05:18:11 PMC'mon guys, it's been at least 10 minutes.  Where is the NM scouting report?

Nonconference:
Beat UCLA, USC and VCU.
Lost to St. John's, Arizona State
Title: Re: MU/New Mex Game Thread
Post by: Tums Festival on March 16, 2025, 05:28:50 PM
New Mexico's center is a beast.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/stats/_/id/4703015/nelly-junior-joseph (https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/stats/_/id/4703015/nelly-junior-joseph)
Title: Re: MU/New Mex Game Thread
Post by: MUEng92 on March 16, 2025, 05:30:50 PM
He AVERAGES 11 rebounds a game? Oh crap
Title: Re: MU/New Mex Game Thread
Post by: panda2.0 on March 16, 2025, 05:31:57 PM
Posted in another thread -


Nelly junior Joseph may grab 25 boards. Donovan dent is the PG we should go all out for in the portal this off season.

Otherwise, it's a bunch of mid major guys. We should win.
Title: Re: MU/New Mex Game Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on March 16, 2025, 05:33:50 PM
Always getting the Friday/Sunday draw smh
Title: Re: MU/New Mex Game Thread
Post by: MUEng92 on March 16, 2025, 05:34:25 PM
How many fouls to we have to give for this center?
Title: Re: MU/New Mex Game Thread
Post by: willie warrior on March 16, 2025, 05:39:02 PM
Quote from: panda2.0 on March 16, 2025, 05:31:57 PMPosted in another thread -


Nelly junior Joseph may grab 25 boards. Donovan dent is the PG we should go all out for in the portal this off season.

Otherwise, it's a bunch of mid major guys. We should win.
he wont grab 25 rebounds. Predict that the Kiwi KlanKer will seal him off and hold him to 25 points and 18 rebounds.
Title: Re: MU/New Mex Game Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on March 16, 2025, 05:39:17 PM
Quote from: Tums Festival on March 16, 2025, 05:28:50 PMNew Mexico's center is a beast.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/stats/_/id/4703015/nelly-junior-joseph (https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/stats/_/id/4703015/nelly-junior-joseph)

Uh-Oh. 
Title: Re: MU/New Mex Game Thread
Post by: GoldenWarrior11 on March 16, 2025, 05:39:30 PM
We simply cannot go 0-4 against Pitinos this year.
Title: Re: MU/New Mex Game Thread
Post by: panda2.0 on March 16, 2025, 05:42:49 PM
Quote from: willie warrior on March 16, 2025, 05:39:02 PMhe wont grab 25 rebounds. Predict that the Kiwi KlanKer will seal him off and hold him to 25 points and 18 rebounds.

lol nice nickname
Title: Re: MU/New Mex Game Thread
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 16, 2025, 06:07:05 PM
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on March 16, 2025, 05:33:50 PMAlways getting the Friday/Sunday draw smh

I love the Friday draw. I hope we don't play until the late session Friday night.  Nothing worse than playing Thursday right away, losing, and then losing most of my interest in the best weekend of the year.
Title: Re: MU/New Mex Game Thread
Post by: IrwinFletcher on March 16, 2025, 06:11:53 PM
Doesn't help that Pitino can give his son a detailed scouting report.
Title: Re: MU/New Mex Game Thread
Post by: tower912 on March 16, 2025, 06:12:49 PM
They have their own Kam Jones and a menacing big.
Title: Re: MU/New Mex Game Thread
Post by: Mr. Nielsen on March 16, 2025, 06:15:44 PM
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on March 16, 2025, 05:33:50 PMAlways getting the Friday/Sunday draw smh
I guess the rule is gone that a host school (games at Fiserv) wouldn't play on the same day.
Title: Re: MU/New Mex Game Thread
Post by: 5DollarPitcher on March 16, 2025, 06:20:08 PM
When are game times released?  Any educated guesses?
Title: Re: MU/New Mex Game Thread
Post by: JakeBarnes on March 16, 2025, 06:25:27 PM
Quote from: tower912 on March 16, 2025, 06:12:49 PMThey have their own Kam Jones and a menacing big.

But we have a Hulk (Stevie)
Title: Re: MU/New Mex Game Thread
Post by: JakeBarnes on March 16, 2025, 06:26:37 PM
Quote from: IrwinFletcher on March 16, 2025, 06:11:53 PMDoesn't help that Pitino can give his son a detailed scouting report.

First, pay Kadary a lot of money

Then have an Ejifor.

Surround them with shooters.  ;D
Title: Re: MU/New Mex Game Thread
Post by: tower912 on March 16, 2025, 06:27:03 PM
A healthy, harassing Stevie would certainly be useful.
Title: Re: MU/New Mex Game Thread
Post by: Viper on March 16, 2025, 06:33:58 PM
Quote from: tower912 on March 16, 2025, 06:12:49 PMThey have their own Kam Jones and a menacing big.
we have Ben Gold, and Tower and MU82 are optimistic 🤣
Title: Re: MU/New Mex Game Thread
Post by: tower912 on March 16, 2025, 06:42:52 PM
I am always optimistic.
Title: Re: MU/New Mex Game Thread
Post by: 5DollarPitcher on March 16, 2025, 06:44:05 PM
Ben Gold will sack up
Title: Re: MU/New Mex Game Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on March 16, 2025, 06:44:36 PM
UNM is a very tough opponent.  But we can do this guys. 
Title: Re: MU/New Mex Game Thread
Post by: Scoop Snoop on March 16, 2025, 06:47:26 PM
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 16, 2025, 06:44:36 PMUNM is a very tough opponent.  But we can do this guys. 

Judging from many of the posts in this thread, we already lost this game.
Title: Re: MU/New Mex Game Thread
Post by: Miss Katie’s on March 16, 2025, 06:52:43 PM
Anyone know the team hotel in Cleveland?
Title: Re: MU/New Mex Game Thread
Post by: cheebs09 on March 16, 2025, 06:53:50 PM
Quote from: Miss Katie's on March 16, 2025, 06:52:43 PMAnyone know the team hotel in Cleveland?

A true fan would be looking for the New Mexico hotel to pull fire alarms.
Title: Re: MU/New Mex Game Thread
Post by: tower912 on March 16, 2025, 06:55:00 PM
Looks like a similar rotation, depth wise.  34.7% 3 pt shooting.  68.7% foul shooting.  Beat UCLA, lost to St. John's.  Lost in the conference semifinal.
Title: Re: MU/New Mex Game Thread
Post by: Dish on March 16, 2025, 07:08:01 PM
6:25 pm Central tip
Title: Re: MU/New Mex Game Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on March 16, 2025, 07:11:07 PM
Quote from: Dish on March 16, 2025, 07:08:01 PM6:25 pm Central tip

Sweet!!!!
Title: Re: MU/New Mex Game Thread
Post by: MUEng92 on March 16, 2025, 07:12:42 PM
Quote from: tower912 on March 16, 2025, 06:12:49 PMThey have their own Kam Jones and a menacing big.
So a mirror image of MU
Title: Re: MU/New Mex Game Thread
Post by: mix it up on March 16, 2025, 07:41:40 PM
Quote from: Tums Festival on March 16, 2025, 05:28:50 PMNew Mexico's center is a beast.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/stats/_/id/4703015/nelly-junior-joseph (https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/stats/_/id/4703015/nelly-junior-joseph)

Interesting that he played three years at Iona before transferring to UNM. Pitino the elder coached him for all 3 of his yrs at Iona.
Title: Re: MU/New Mex Game Thread
Post by: PointWarrior on March 16, 2025, 07:50:54 PM
Quote from: IrwinFletcher on March 16, 2025, 06:11:53 PMDoesn't help that Pitino can give his son a detailed scouting report.

Wow, we are really screwed then.
Title: Re: MU/New Mex Game Thread
Post by: wisblue on March 16, 2025, 08:22:39 PM
Quote from: PointWarrior on March 16, 2025, 07:50:54 PMWow, we are really screwed then.

Yeah, because there is no other way to get good information on opponents. Like if every game was televised and filmed or something like that.
Title: Re: MU/New Mex Game Thread
Post by: tower912 on March 16, 2025, 08:29:05 PM
Pitino the younger said as much in his press conference.   Isaac Chew is on his staff.
Title: Re: MU/New Mex Game Thread
Post by: The Sultan on March 16, 2025, 08:35:15 PM
Quote from: tower912 on March 16, 2025, 08:29:05 PMPitino the younger said as much in his press conference.   Isaac Chew is on his staff.

There's a blast from the past.
Title: Re: MU/New Mex Game Thread
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 16, 2025, 08:42:17 PM
Quote from: tower912 on March 16, 2025, 08:29:05 PMPitino the younger said as much in his press conference.   Isaac Chew is on his staff.

Can you share the link?
Title: Re: MU/New Mex Game Thread
Post by: Newsdreams on March 16, 2025, 08:45:14 PM
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 16, 2025, 07:11:07 PMSweet!!!!
Yup plenty of time to get wasted
Title: Re: MU/New Mex Game Thread
Post by: tower912 on March 16, 2025, 08:55:13 PM
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 16, 2025, 08:42:17 PMCan you share the link?
https://www.abqjournal.com/video_cb7274a8-02bf-11f0-88ac-6bb124aab4b5.html

Shaka's press conference, too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bn2DOcyANKM
Title: Re: MU/New Mex Game Thread
Post by: MU82 on March 16, 2025, 09:00:07 PM
Quote from: Viper on March 16, 2025, 06:33:58 PMwe have Ben Gold, and Tower and MU82 are optimistic 🤣

Yeah, what a couple of rubes we are. You'd think that after Marquette went 0-32 to this point, we'd have lost all of our optimism.

Given all you've said since the bracket came out, if I didn't know you were a Marquette fan, I'd think you rooted for anybody else. You are a Marquette fan, right?
Title: Re: MU/New Mex Game Thread
Post by: Newsdreams on March 16, 2025, 09:05:16 PM
Quote from: MU82 on March 16, 2025, 09:00:07 PMYeah, what a couple of rubes we are. You'd think that after Marquette went 0-32 to this point, we'd have lost all of our optimism.

Given all you've said since the bracket came out, if I didn't know you were a Marquette fan, I'd think you rooted for anybody else. You are a Marquette fan, right?
Nope, he isn't
Title: Re: MU/New Mex Game Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on March 16, 2025, 09:13:21 PM
How do we eliminate Donovan Dent?  He's very efficient.  41.5% from downtown.  Can we turn him over?  I have some concen about tempo because they like to run.  We need Benny to step out and drain some threes.
Title: Re: MU/New Mex Game Thread
Post by: tower912 on March 16, 2025, 09:20:00 PM
Sic Stevie on him.  No help.  As a team, the Lobos shoot 34.7% from 3.   Could be a brick fest.  On the other hand, their front line is long.
Title: Re: MU/New Mex Game Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on March 16, 2025, 09:24:03 PM
Quote from: tower912 on March 16, 2025, 09:20:00 PMSic Stevie on him.  No help.  As a team, the Lobos shoot 34.7% from 3.   Could be a brick fest.  On the other hand, their front line is long.

They do play similarly to us.  He sort of reminds me of a smaller SGA.  Really good player Tower.  That said he won't go off like Conwell. 
Title: Re: MU/New Mex Game Thread
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 16, 2025, 09:33:28 PM
Quote from: tower912 on March 16, 2025, 08:55:13 PMhttps://www.abqjournal.com/video_cb7274a8-02bf-11f0-88ac-6bb124aab4b5.html

Shaka's press conference, too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bn2DOcyANKM

Thank you!!
Title: Re: MU/New Mex Game Thread
Post by: RushmoreAcademy on March 16, 2025, 09:45:21 PM
Early line is MU -3.5.
Should be a close one.
Title: Re: MU/New Mex Game Thread
Post by: panda2.0 on March 16, 2025, 09:48:37 PM
Quote from: RushmoreAcademy on March 16, 2025, 09:45:21 PMEarly line is MU -3.5.
Should be a close one.

O 152.5 is a mortgage bet. Close game and both teams like to put it up quick.
Title: Re: MU/New Mex Game Thread
Post by: #UnleashSean on March 16, 2025, 09:59:13 PM
Guys I'm finally bringing this up. Since we've been doing these games threads days in advance, Marquette has sucked and lost.


We need to go back to making game threads 10 minutes beforehand and fighting over two of them to see which one wins.

It's the least we can do for the team!
Title: Re: MU/New Mex Game Thread
Post by: Shaka Shart on March 16, 2025, 10:01:57 PM
Wait there's a NEW Mexico?!
Title: Re: MU/New Mex Game Thread
Post by: Pakuni on March 16, 2025, 10:10:46 PM
Spero Dedes, Jim Spanarkel and Jon Rothstein on the call.
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: MuggsyB on March 16, 2025, 10:21:25 PM
Quote from: #UnleashSean on March 16, 2025, 09:59:13 PMGuys I'm finally bringing this up. Since we've been doing these games threads days in advance, Marquette has sucked and lost.


We need to go back to making game threads 10 minutes beforehand and fighting over two of them to see which one wins.

It's the least we can do for the team!

I changed it. 
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: JakeBarnes on March 16, 2025, 10:46:16 PM
Quote from: #UnleashSean on March 16, 2025, 09:59:13 PMGuys I'm finally bringing this up. Since we've been doing these games threads days in advance, Marquette has sucked and lost.


We need to go back to making game threads 10 minutes beforehand and fighting over two of them to see which one wins.

It's the least we can do for the team!

I thought the same.
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: Newsdreams on March 16, 2025, 11:20:42 PM
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 16, 2025, 10:21:25 PMI changed it. 
TY
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: MU82 on March 17, 2025, 12:37:23 AM
Quote from: Shaka Shart on March 16, 2025, 10:01:57 PMWait there's a NEW Mexico?!

Nope. New America now.
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: willie warrior on March 17, 2025, 03:37:54 AM
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 16, 2025, 09:13:21 PMHow do we eliminate Donovan Dent?  He's very efficient.  41.5% from downtown.  Can we turn him over?  I have some concen about tempo because they like to run.  We need Benny to step out and drain some threes.
Yeah. How often does that happen?
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: muwarrior69 on March 17, 2025, 04:21:10 AM
Quote from: Shaka Shart on March 16, 2025, 10:01:57 PMWait there's a NEW Mexico?!

For now!
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 17, 2025, 08:50:29 AM
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 16, 2025, 09:13:21 PMHow do we eliminate Donovan Dent?  He's very efficient.  41.5% from downtown.  Can we turn him over?  I have some concen about tempo because they like to run.  We need Benny to step out and drain some threes.

Context,  he averages 0.8 threes a game. He's much more dangerous in the arc than out of it
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 17, 2025, 09:07:05 AM
Quote from: MUEng92 on March 16, 2025, 05:30:50 PMHe AVERAGES 11 rebounds a game? Oh crap

He's an elite defensive rebounder, 10th best in the nation. He's a very good offensive rebounder, 163rd in the nation
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: StillAWarrior on March 17, 2025, 09:11:27 AM
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 17, 2025, 09:07:05 AMHe's an elite defensive rebounder, 10th best in the nation. He's a very good offensive rebounder, 163rd in the nation

Well then, the strategy is simple - Marquette needs to not miss shots.
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: JakeBarnes on March 17, 2025, 09:13:29 AM
Quote from: StillAWarrior on March 17, 2025, 09:11:27 AMWell then, the strategy is simple - Marquette needs to not miss shots.

Scoop needs to write a letter to Shaka now.
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: MUbiz on March 17, 2025, 09:23:56 AM
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 17, 2025, 08:50:29 AMContext,  he averages 0.8 threes a game. He's much more dangerous in the arc than out of it

In the 4 or so New Mexico games I have seen, Dent shoots a ton of mid range. (which I am sure will excite some of the scoopers)  I think of Dent as a smaller, faster Kadary Richmond.
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: Newsdreams on March 17, 2025, 09:37:55 AM
Quote from: JakeBarnes on March 17, 2025, 09:13:29 AMScoop needs to write a letter to Shaka now.
More mid range!! Or cowbell??
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: StillAWarrior on March 17, 2025, 11:17:31 AM
Quote from: JakeBarnes on March 17, 2025, 09:13:29 AMScoop needs to write a letter to Shaka now.

Not necessary...Shaka reads Scoop.
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: MU82 on March 17, 2025, 11:22:48 AM
The Athletic picked Kam Jones as one of the tournament's 13 "most intriguing players," saying:

This only has a little to do with the part-time boxing, the podcasting, the flair for fashion and the fact that one of his best friends is the team chaplain. At one point, the 6-4 senior looked like a first-team All-America lock. He finished the regular season fifth in KenPom.com's player of the year ratings. But ... it didn't feel like that by the end? Because the Golden Eagles went 4-6 from Feb. 1 to the start of the Big East tournament, probably? And yet: Is there not some Kemba Walker-esque potential here, for a guy who posted career-highs in player efficiency rating (24.8) and assist percentage (38.5) going into the NCAA Tournament? Jones shot 40.6 percent from 3-point range as a junior and has dropped to 31.2 percent this season. The former was certainly a function of Tyler Kolek providing open looks; the latter still feels like a number that could aggress to a mean. In the regular-season finale against St. John's, Jones posted 32 points, nine rebounds and seven assists, taking 30 shots to get there and mixing in a couple head-scratching moments. That's a decent measure of the volatility here.
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: #UnleashSean on March 17, 2025, 11:30:54 AM
Yes, yes I like this thread better
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: Scoop Snoop on March 17, 2025, 12:54:26 PM
Quote from: StillAWarrior on March 17, 2025, 11:17:31 AMNot necessary...Shaka reads Scoop for laughs.

FIFY
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: willie warrior on March 17, 2025, 03:14:27 PM
Quote from: Viper on March 16, 2025, 06:33:58 PMwe have Ben Gold, and Tower and MU82 are optimistic 🤣
Gold will be the difference maker in the game
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: willie warrior on March 17, 2025, 03:15:55 PM
Quote from: JakeBarnes on March 16, 2025, 06:25:27 PMBut we have a Hulk (Stevie)
We also have the green weiner
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: FairWeatherEagle on March 17, 2025, 03:22:23 PM
Lot of people picking UNM. Certainly no one picking MU to go to S16.

if we go to S16 then real successful season.
If we win 1 then ok season
If we lose, ugh. See you next year
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: JakeBarnes on March 17, 2025, 03:25:09 PM
Quote from: willie warrior on March 17, 2025, 03:15:55 PMWe also have the green weiner

I think we celebrate St. Paddy's a bit differently
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: MU82 on March 17, 2025, 04:22:29 PM
Quote from: FairWeatherEagle on March 17, 2025, 03:22:23 PMLot of people picking UNM. Certainly no one picking MU to go to S16.

if we go to S16 then real successful season.
If we win 1 then ok season
If we lose, ugh. See you next year

I'm picking MU to go to the Elite Eight.
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 17, 2025, 06:50:07 PM
Quote from: MUbiz on March 17, 2025, 09:23:56 AMIn the 4 or so New Mexico games I have seen, Dent shoots a ton of mid range. (which I am sure will excite some of the scoopers)  I think of Dent as a smaller, faster Kadary Richmond.

Funny enough,  Dent has taken exactly 100 midrange shots this season.  He has made 33 of them. It's even worse if you include shots between the FT line and at the rim where he's 8/26 on the season.

So yes,  I would be very excited if Dent takes a lot of mid range jumpers against us. If hes getting to the rim that Ill get worried, particularly in transition.
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 17, 2025, 07:00:17 PM
Double post
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: ATL MU Warrior on March 17, 2025, 07:03:44 PM
I feel like we have a lot of bodies to throw at Dent to try to wear him down and neutralize him (Stevie, Chase, Zaide, Tre, Kam). I'm more worried about the big guy and the other randos that we will likely leave wide open. Can almost guarantee that one of them will go off from 3. 
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: MuggsyB on March 17, 2025, 07:10:22 PM
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on March 17, 2025, 07:03:44 PMI feel like we have a lot of bodies to throw at Dent to try to war him down and neutralize him (Stevie, Chase, Zaide, Tre, Kam). I'm more worried about the big guy and the other randos that we will likely leave wide open. Can almost guarantee that one of them will go off from 3. 

They're good.  This isn't breaking news.  It's essentially a pick 'em game.  But we can absolutely do this.  I believe in our guys despite our struggles.  I also believe in Shaka and his preparation for this game.
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: MU82 on March 17, 2025, 09:25:24 PM
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 17, 2025, 06:50:07 PMFunny enough,  Dent has taken exactly 100 midrange shots this season.  He has made 33 of them. It's even worse if you include shots between the FT line and at the rim where he's 8/26 on the season.

So yes,  I would be very excited if Dent takes a lot of mid range jumpers against us. If hes getting to the rim that Ill get worried, particularly in transition.

Great info. Thanks for posting.
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: TucsonLobo on March 17, 2025, 09:30:43 PM
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 16, 2025, 09:13:21 PMHow do we eliminate Donovan Dent?  He's very efficient.  41.5% from downtown.  Can we turn him over?  I have some concen about tempo because they like to run.  We need Benny to step out and drain some threes.

Lobo fan here. He's going to get 20 and at least 10 assists/balls bounced off the head of a wide open teammate.

You just hope that Nelly doesn't score more than 15, Tru doesn't get hit, and we miss our 3's.

But even if nobody else steps up Dent is still capable of going for 40 and carrying the team himself. I don't think you can stop that either. Maybe voodoo?
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: Newsdreams on March 17, 2025, 09:34:39 PM
Quote from: TucsonLobo on March 17, 2025, 09:30:43 PMLobo fan here. He's going to get 20 and at least 10 assists/balls bounced off the head of a wide open teammate.

You just hope that Nelly doesn't score more than 15, Tru doesn't get hit, and we miss our 3's.

But even if nobody else steps up Dent is still capable of going for 40 and carrying the team himself. I don't think you can stop that either. Maybe voodoo?
Nope, Stevie Mitchell
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: JakeBarnes on March 17, 2025, 10:14:33 PM
Quote from: TucsonLobo on March 17, 2025, 09:30:43 PMLobo fan here. He's going to get 20 and at least 10 assists/balls bounced off the head of a wide open teammate.

You just hope that Nelly doesn't score more than 15, Tru doesn't get hit, and we miss our 3's.

But even if nobody else steps up Dent is still capable of going for 40 and carrying the team himself. I don't think you can stop that either. Maybe voodoo?

To the note in the last paragraph: this fanbase has a lot of ghosts related to Ja Morant.

However, we didn't have Shaka's defense and a DPOY candidate in Stevie Mitchell. I think Dent v Mitchell/Ross is gonna be fun to watch. Mitchell is someone you NM fans might enjoy watching highlights of. He's a fun dude to watch play defense.
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: PointWarrior on March 17, 2025, 10:25:37 PM
Quote from: MU82 on March 17, 2025, 04:22:29 PMI'm picking MU to go to the Elite Eight.

Double or nothing on our beer - I will give you 10-1 odds. 
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 17, 2025, 11:01:32 PM
Quote from: TucsonLobo on March 17, 2025, 09:30:43 PMLobo fan here. He's going to get 20 and at least 10 assists/balls bounced off the head of a wide open teammate.

You just hope that Nelly doesn't score more than 15, Tru doesn't get hit, and we miss our 3's.

But even if nobody else steps up Dent is still capable of going for 40 and carrying the team himself. I don't think you can stop that either. Maybe voodoo?

You sir have not met Stevie "Off Night" Mitchell

Hopefully his achilles hasnt fallen off by then
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: MU82 on March 18, 2025, 12:35:45 AM
Quote from: PointWarrior on March 17, 2025, 10:25:37 PMDouble or nothing on our beer - I will give you 10-1 odds. 

Nah. A beer in the hand ...
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: tower912 on March 18, 2025, 05:35:19 AM
Quote from: TucsonLobo on March 17, 2025, 09:30:43 PMLobo fan here. He's going to get 20 and at least 10 assists/balls bounced off the head of a wide open teammate.

You just hope that Nelly doesn't score more than 15, Tru doesn't get hit, and we miss our 3's.

But even if nobody else steps up Dent is still capable of going for 40 and carrying the team himself. I don't think you can stop that either. Maybe voodoo?
MU went through that a few seasons ago.   You guys are legit.  And it could end up being Dent and Jam Jones going for 30 each.
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: MUEng92 on March 18, 2025, 05:54:47 AM
Most importantly, who is the Lobo who only made 27 3 ptrs during the regular season but will make 11 on Friday night?
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: tower912 on March 18, 2025, 06:00:38 AM
That knows no boundaries as far as coaches or seasons.   For Lobo fans, MU fans still have nightmares about Jean Felix, an Alabama forward, who had a career game against MU in the NCAA tournament 20 years ago.   Since then, it is a punchline that someone from the opposing team no one has ever considered will make it rain from 3. 

It happened to MU multiple times this season in conference.   Rivera from DePaul.  DuMont from Villanova.   A season ago, Bizjack from Butler.
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: tower912 on March 18, 2025, 06:44:40 AM
I have to believe that Sean is running the scout team and throwing lobs to Clark to simulate UNM's pick and roll offense.
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: barfolomew on March 18, 2025, 08:03:57 AM
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 17, 2025, 07:00:17 PMDouble post

Disagree, our offensive flow and spacing would be disrupted with two camped out in the blocks.
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: Newsdreams on March 18, 2025, 08:07:42 AM
Quote from: barfolomew on March 18, 2025, 08:03:57 AMDisagree, our offensive flow and spacing would be disrupted with two camped out in the blocks.
No bangers
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: Galway Eagle on March 18, 2025, 08:18:02 AM
Quote from: tower912 on March 18, 2025, 06:00:38 AMThat knows no boundaries as far as coaches or seasons.   For Lobo fans, MU fans still have nightmares about Jean Felix, an Alabama forward, who had a career game against MU in the NCAA tournament 20 years ago.   Since then, it is a punchline that someone from the opposing team no one has ever considered will make it rain from 3. 

It happened to MU multiple times this season in conference.   Rivera from DePaul.  DuMont from Villanova.   A season ago, Bizjack from Butler.

Wasn't Austin croshare the OG version?
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: The Sultan on March 18, 2025, 08:19:40 AM
New Mexico is one of a handful of states I have never been to. Therefore I don't believe it actually exists.
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on March 18, 2025, 08:32:53 AM
Quote from: Galway Eagle on March 18, 2025, 08:18:02 AMWasn't Austin croshare the OG version?

God Shammgod
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 18, 2025, 09:57:10 AM
Quote from: TucsonLobo on March 17, 2025, 09:30:43 PM10 assists/balls bounced off the head of a wide open teammate.

Now, I want the story.  Or at least video.
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: #UnleashSean on March 18, 2025, 10:33:35 AM
Quote from: TucsonLobo on March 17, 2025, 09:30:43 PMLobo fan here. He's going to get 20 and at least 10 assists/balls bounced off the head of a wide open teammate.

You just hope that Nelly doesn't score more than 15, Tru doesn't get hit, and we miss our 3's.

But even if nobody else steps up Dent is still capable of going for 40 and carrying the team himself. I don't think you can stop that either. Maybe voodoo?

Here's why stats don't matter when we're talking about mid majors.


Dent went 5-12 against the most comparable defensive team to Marquette. Marquette also has better guard defense then SJU. Dent will not go for 40. It'll be an impressive game for him if he hits 20 while shooting 43%.

Also to all the comps. Dent is NOT Ja Morant. Ja was a very clear top 5 pick in the NBA when MU faced him. Dent is predicted on some draft boards to go 59

If you're taking bets to see who plays the best guard game in this, look no further to the much more talented Kam Jones.


Boys let's stop fear mongering over someone who was beating up on the mountain west for half the year. Kam would have torched that league. Outside of St.Johns, the best teams they played are Utah state and Boise.
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: Pakuni on March 18, 2025, 10:55:01 AM
Quote from: #UnleashSean on March 18, 2025, 10:33:35 AMBoys let's stop fear mongering over someone who was beating up on the mountain west for half the year. Kam would have torched that league. Outside of St.Johns, the best teams they played are Utah state and Boise.

UCLA, Colorado State and VCU would like a word.
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: MU82 on March 18, 2025, 10:58:12 AM
Quote from: #UnleashSean on March 18, 2025, 10:33:35 AMHere's why stats don't matter when we're talking about mid majors.


Dent went 5-12 against the most comparable defensive team to Marquette. Marquette also has better guard defense then SJU. Dent will not go for 40. It'll be an impressive game for him if he hits 20 while shooting 43%.

Also to all the comps. Dent is NOT Ja Morant. Ja was a very clear top 5 pick in the NBA when MU faced him. Dent is predicted on some draft boards to go 59

If you're taking bets to see who plays the best guard game in this, look no further to the much more talented Kam Jones.


Boys let's stop fear mongering over someone who was beating up on the mountain west for half the year. Kam would have torched that league. Outside of St.Johns, the best teams they played are Utah state and Boise.

Put a lid on the MU optimism, pal. We ain't got no chance. New America went 33-0 because they're unbeatable!
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: The Sultan on March 18, 2025, 11:05:53 AM
Quote from: #UnleashSean on March 18, 2025, 10:33:35 AMHere's why stats don't matter when we're talking about mid majors.


Dent went 5-12 against the most comparable defensive team to Marquette. Marquette also has better guard defense then SJU. Dent will not go for 40. It'll be an impressive game for him if he hits 20 while shooting 43%.

Also to all the comps. Dent is NOT Ja Morant. Ja was a very clear top 5 pick in the NBA when MU faced him. Dent is predicted on some draft boards to go 59

If you're taking bets to see who plays the best guard game in this, look no further to the much more talented Kam Jones.


Boys let's stop fear mongering over someone who was beating up on the mountain west for half the year. Kam would have torched that league. Outside of St.Johns, the best teams they played are Utah state and Boise.


The Mountain West gets numerous teams in the tournament each year, but they largely perform to seed. The biggest exception was SDSU getting to the Final Four, but they did so as a 5-seed.
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: cheebs09 on March 18, 2025, 11:11:10 AM
Is anyone else getting Ja Morant type of vibes where we take away the scoring but leave everyone else open?
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: 1971muhs on March 18, 2025, 11:14:02 AM
I don't believe Wojo is coaching. I remember being at the game when he doubled Morant who got 150 assists and then ended the night dunking on Joey Hauser.

We did not impose our will.
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: NCMUFan on March 18, 2025, 11:16:49 AM
Could Scoop take another Murray State type of game?
Might be the end of Scoop as we know it.
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: The Sultan on March 18, 2025, 11:21:35 AM
Quote from: NCMUFan on March 18, 2025, 11:16:49 AMCould Scoop take another Murray State type of game?
Might be the end of Scoop as we know it.

So you're saying we should root for a Murray State type of game?
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: NCMUFan on March 18, 2025, 11:23:30 AM
Only if we are the Murray State.
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: Newsdreams on March 18, 2025, 11:30:51 AM
Quote from: NCMUFan on March 18, 2025, 11:16:49 AMCould Scoop take another Murray State type of game?
Might be the end of Scoop as we know it.
REM?
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 18, 2025, 11:31:01 AM
Quote from: NCMUFan on March 18, 2025, 11:16:49 AMCould Scoop take another Murray State type of game?
Might be the end of Scoop as we know it.

Wow, I'll start preparing the Dissolution paperwork. 
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: MU82 on March 18, 2025, 11:32:26 AM
Quote from: cheebs09 on March 18, 2025, 11:11:10 AMIs anyone else getting Ja Morant type of vibes where we take away the scoring but leave everyone else open?

Anyone? Certainly.

Intelligent Marquette fans who know the difference between this UNM team and that Murray State team, and the difference between the guards (and coaching) on this Marquette team and that Marquette team? No.
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 18, 2025, 11:56:26 AM
Quote from: MU82 on March 18, 2025, 11:32:26 AMIntelligent Marquette fans

Way to play the high ground with "I'm smarter than you"!
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: Newsdreams on March 18, 2025, 12:06:04 PM
Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 18, 2025, 11:56:26 AMWay to play the high ground with "I'm smarter than you"!
Ban yourself
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: MU82 on March 18, 2025, 01:09:35 PM
Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 18, 2025, 11:56:26 AMWay to play the high ground with "I'm smarter than you"!

Everyone here thinks he or she is the most intelligent Marquette fan.
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: tower912 on March 18, 2025, 01:22:37 PM
Not me.  I am an optimistic shlub on the internet.
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: JakeBarnes on March 18, 2025, 01:43:24 PM
I just find myself funny. Even though I'm not.
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: tower912 on March 18, 2025, 01:52:18 PM
Quote from: JakeBarnes on March 18, 2025, 01:43:24 PMI just find myself funny. Even though I'm not.

You are funny adjacent.   
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: #UnleashSean on March 18, 2025, 02:05:56 PM
Quote from: cheebs09 on March 18, 2025, 11:11:10 AMIs anyone else getting Ja Morant type of vibes where we take away the scoring but leave everyone else open?

The closest person on the court to Ja is Kam. Stop with these comps lol.
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: MU82 on March 18, 2025, 02:16:40 PM
Quote from: JakeBarnes on March 18, 2025, 01:43:24 PMI just find myself funny. Even though I'm not.

You're funny how? I mean, funny like you're a clown, you amuse yourself? You make yourself laugh, you're here to f&#king amuse yourself? What do you mean funny, funny how? How are you funny?
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: tower912 on March 18, 2025, 02:19:24 PM
Nice.
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: #UnleashSean on March 18, 2025, 02:22:17 PM
Quote from: MU82 on March 18, 2025, 02:16:40 PMYou're funny how? I mean, funny like you're a clown, you amuse yourself? You make yourself laugh, you're here to f&#king amuse yourself? What do you mean funny, funny how? How are you funny?

yes?

I've seen this scene so many times, I don't think I've ever actually seen Goodfellas.
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: JakeBarnes on March 18, 2025, 02:25:01 PM
Quote from: tower912 on March 18, 2025, 01:52:18 PMYou are funny adjacent. 

That's the nicest thing anyone's ever said to me.
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: forgetful on March 18, 2025, 02:39:53 PM
Quote from: The Sultan on March 18, 2025, 08:19:40 AMNew Mexico is one of a handful of states I have never been to. Therefore I don't believe it actually exists.


New Mexico is one of the states I had to file state income taxes in this year, so I'm certain they exist.
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: The Sultan on March 18, 2025, 02:42:10 PM
Quote from: forgetful on March 18, 2025, 02:39:53 PMNew Mexico is one of the states I had to file state income taxes in this year, so I'm certain they exist.

I think this makes you a financial supporter of the University of New Mexico... smh
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: BrewCity83 on March 18, 2025, 02:48:34 PM
Quote from: MU82 on March 18, 2025, 01:09:35 PMEveryone here thinks he or she is the most intelligent Marquette fan.
Not me.  I know MU82 and the Sultan are surely the smartest.
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: tower912 on March 18, 2025, 03:01:47 PM
Quote from: BrewCity83 on March 18, 2025, 02:48:34 PMNot me.  I know MU82 and the Sultan are surely the smartest.
I would agree with that.   I think Rico is stealthily a genius.  You can't make that many people that mad  by adopting their posting style and using it against them without having some serious gray cells.
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: #UnleashSean on March 18, 2025, 03:31:05 PM
Quote from: forgetful on March 18, 2025, 02:39:53 PMNew Mexico is one of the states I had to file state income taxes in this year, so I'm certain they exist.

You mean New America?
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: ATL MU Warrior on March 18, 2025, 04:25:37 PM
Quote from: The Sultan on March 18, 2025, 08:19:40 AMNew Mexico is one of a handful of states I have never been to. Therefore I don't believe it actually exists.

You should go, it's beautiful there.
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: Pakuni on March 18, 2025, 04:31:18 PM
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on March 18, 2025, 04:25:37 PMYou should go, it's beautiful there.

And I've heard the meth is out of this world.
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: willie warrior on March 18, 2025, 04:57:02 PM
Quote from: tower912 on March 18, 2025, 03:01:47 PMI would agree with that.   I think Rico is stealthily a genius.  You can't make that many people that mad  by adopting their posting style and using it against them without having some serious gray cells.
you are one gullible person.
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: TucsonLobo on March 20, 2025, 11:49:04 AM
Quote from: #UnleashSean on March 18, 2025, 10:33:35 AMHere's why stats don't matter when we're talking about mid majors.

Dent went 5-12 against the most comparable defensive team to Marquette. Marquette also has better guard defense then SJU. Dent will not go for 40. It'll be an impressive game for him if he hits 20 while shooting 43%.



Marquette is 26 in Kenpom DRtg. Against the no. 24 defensive team, VCU, Dent had 40.

At St. Johns, Dent played better than Kam, with 6 assists to Kam's 1, and only 3 fewer points. Where the Lobos struggled against St. John's most was in rebounding (Nelly had just 4), but still did better than Marquette (-17 to -22). And I think we'll have the rebounding advantage over Marquette.

Who's comparing Dent to Ja Morant? I've never heard that comparison made. He's by no means an exceptional athlete like Ja. I'd say he's more like old-man Andre Miller.

If the refs let them play, the game's a toss-up. With a tight whistle, Marquette will be impacted more and the Lobos win by 7-12.
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: MU82 on March 20, 2025, 11:56:13 AM
With Dent pretty much guaranteed 50 points against Marquette's lousy defense, I wonder if it's too late for Shaka to reject the NCAA bid and go to the NIT.

If he does that, and also punches one of his players in the face, it will make him a Marquette legend!
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: #UnleashSean on March 20, 2025, 12:01:47 PM
Quote from: TucsonLobo on March 20, 2025, 11:49:04 AMMarquette is 26 in Kenpom DRtg. Against the no. 24 defensive team, VCU, Dent had 40.

At St. Johns, Dent played better than Kam, with 6 assists to Kam's 1, and only 3 fewer points. Where the Lobos struggled against St. John's most was in rebounding (Nelly had just 4), but still did better than Marquette (-17 to -22). And I think we'll have the rebounding advantage over Marquette.

Who's comparing Dent to Ja Morant? I've never heard that comparison made. He's by no means an exceptional athlete like Ja. I'd say he's more like old-man Andre Miller.

If the refs let them play, the game's a toss-up. With a tight whistle, Marquette will be impacted more and the Lobos win by 7-12.

Saying Dent is better then a 2nd team all american is crazy lol. Enjoy watching your borderline nba talent get harassed.
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: DoctorV on March 20, 2025, 12:22:21 PM
Quote from: TucsonLobo on March 20, 2025, 11:49:04 AMIf the refs let them play, the game's a toss-up. With a tight whistle, Marquette will be impacted more and the Lobos win by 7-12.

This is flat out wrong!!!
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: Hards Alumni on March 20, 2025, 12:36:01 PM
Quote from: MU82 on March 20, 2025, 11:56:13 AMWith Dent pretty much guaranteed 50 points against Marquette's lousy defense, I wonder if it's too late for Shaka to reject the NCAA bid and go to the NIT.

If he does that, and also punches one of his players in the face, it will make him a Marquette legend!

Rumor is Shaka is already back in Austin begging for his old job back.
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: Markusquette on March 20, 2025, 12:43:29 PM
Hope the Lobos get absolutely crushed
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: tower912 on March 20, 2025, 12:45:36 PM
The other team from there is much more calming.  NaMaSTe.
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: Miss Katie’s on March 20, 2025, 12:52:08 PM
Quote from: TucsonLobo on March 20, 2025, 11:49:04 AMWho's comparing Dent to Ja Morant? I've never heard that comparison made. He's by no means an exceptional athlete like Ja. I'd say he's more like old-man Andre Miller.


It's MU fans mentioning Ja Morant and worrying if this could turn out the same way  as playing Murray State in the tourney did several years ago. There is some definite PTSD. 
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: muwarrior69 on March 20, 2025, 02:09:43 PM
Quote from: Miss Katie's on March 20, 2025, 12:52:08 PMIt's MU fans mentioning Ja Morant and worrying if this could turn out the same way  as playing Murray State in the tourney did several years ago. There is some definite PTSD. 

Ah Miss Katie, I see your sessions with Tower are going well as he is optimistic.
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: cheebs09 on March 20, 2025, 02:18:55 PM
Quote from: Miss Katie's on March 20, 2025, 12:52:08 PMIt's MU fans mentioning Ja Morant and worrying if this could turn out the same way  as playing Murray State in the tourney did several years ago. There is some definite PTSD. 

Yeah, I think it's me that started the Ja Morant line of thought. More just that Wojo's strategy was to collapse on him so he wouldn't score, but he killed us with his passing. It sounded like Dent had the potential to do the same.

Obviously he's not as good as Morant, but more along the lines on if he could have a similar impact.
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: MU82 on March 20, 2025, 02:31:19 PM
Quote from: cheebs09 on March 20, 2025, 02:18:55 PMYeah, I think it's me that started the Ja Morant line of thought. More just that Wojo's strategy was to collapse on him so he wouldn't score, but he killed us with his passing. It sounded like Dent had the potential to do the same.

Obviously he's not as good as Morant, but more along the lines on if he could have a similar impact.

Again, Wojo didn't have Stevie, Chase and Zaide at his disposal. And even if he did, Wojo wouldn't have known how to deploy them.

I am NOT saying Dent won't give us trouble. He seems to be a very good player capable of giving any opponent trouble. Just saying the personnel suggests different defensive strategy than the one Wojo used against Ja.
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 20, 2025, 03:49:34 PM
Quote from: TucsonLobo on March 20, 2025, 11:49:04 AMMarquette is 26 in Kenpom DRtg. Against the no. 24 defensive team, VCU, Dent had 40.

At St. Johns, Dent played better than Kam, with 6 assists to Kam's 1, and only 3 fewer points. Where the Lobos struggled against St. John's most was in rebounding (Nelly had just 4), but still did better than Marquette (-17 to -22). And I think we'll have the rebounding advantage over Marquette.

Who's comparing Dent to Ja Morant? I've never heard that comparison made. He's by no means an exceptional athlete like Ja. I'd say he's more like old-man Andre Miller.

If the refs let them play, the game's a toss-up. With a tight whistle, Marquette will be impacted more and the Lobos win by 7-12.

I don't think adjD is where you should be looking.  Check out offensive TO%. Dent murders teams in transition and is average in the halfcourt. MU is elite at protecting the ball, 8th in the country.  Yall havent played a team even close to that.  Your best is your season opener against Nicholls state (48th). Next two are against Nevada (63rd). In 85 minutes against Nevada yall only forced 21 turnovers and barely won both games. 16 of your opponets rank in the bottom third of offensive TO%.

Basketball isn't played on paper, but I think you might have a harder time getting in transition than you usually do. If thats the case, I'm not sure if Dent will have the big game you're hoping for.
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: Class71 on March 20, 2025, 04:06:02 PM
Seriously, NM is not a good match-up for us. Their front court is 6'9", 6'9" and 6'10". Their center Nelly Joseph is ranked #9 in the NCAA for defensive rebounding comparable to Tarris Reed at #13.

Donovan Dent at 6'2" is #23 in the nation in assists and shoots 40% from 3.

Tru Washingtion is ranked #35 in stl % and shoots 35% from 3.

Mustapha Amzil at 6'9" is another decent rebounder who shoots too many 3's given his 29% shooting percent.

Filip Borovicanin is their power forward/backup center at 6'9" who is ranked 431 nationally in Defensive Rebounding.

Bench also has size and some shooting skills.

We should win by 3 according to KenPom

Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 20, 2025, 04:08:31 PM
Counterpoint, they are a great matchup for us. Their offense relies heavily on transition and we are top 10 in the nation at not turning the ball over.
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: MU82 on March 20, 2025, 04:14:28 PM
Quote from: TucsonLobo on March 20, 2025, 11:49:04 AMMarquette is 26 in Kenpom DRtg. Against the no. 24 defensive team, VCU, Dent had 40.

Great. Also ...

Against the no. 61 defensive team, Boise State, on Feb. 19,  Dent had 17 on 4-for-13 shooting, with 4 TOs as his team lost.

Ipso fatso, he's doomed against the #26 defensive team.

BTW, I actually don't believe that. Just showing that maybe it's kinda silly to make the kind of projection you did.
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: The Sultan on March 20, 2025, 04:19:47 PM
Quote from: Class71 on March 20, 2025, 04:06:02 PMSeriously, NM is not a good match-up for us. Their front court is 6'9", 6'9" and 6'10". Their center Nelly Joseph is ranked #9 in the NCAA for defensive rebounding comparable to Tarris Reed at #13.

Donovan Dent at 6'2" is #23 in the nation in assists and shoots 40% from 3.

Tru Washingtion is ranked #35 in stl % and shoots 35% from 3.

Mustapha Amzil at 6'9" is another decent rebounder who shoots too many 3's given his 29% shooting percent.

Filip Borovicanin is their power forward/backup center at 6'9" who is ranked 431 nationally in Defensive Rebounding.

Bench also has size and some shooting skills.

We should win by 3 according to KenPom

I, for one, am scared.
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: Scoop Snoop on March 20, 2025, 04:22:33 PM
Quote from: MU82 on March 20, 2025, 04:14:28 PMGreat. Also ...

Against the no. 61 defensive team, Boise State, on Feb. 19,  Dent had 17 on 4-for-13 shooting, with 4 TOs as his team lost.

Ipso fatso, he's doomed against the #26 defensive team.

BTW, I actually don't believe that. Just showing that maybe it's kinda silly to make the kind of projection you did.


The gravitationally challenged scoopers deserve to be respected, Baldy.
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on March 20, 2025, 04:29:52 PM
Quote from: TucsonLobo on March 20, 2025, 11:49:04 AMMarquette is 26 in Kenpom DRtg. Against the no. 24 defensive team, VCU, Dent had 40.

At St. Johns, Dent played better than Kam, with 6 assists to Kam's 1, and only 3 fewer points. Where the Lobos struggled against St. John's most was in rebounding (Nelly had just 4), but still did better than Marquette (-17 to -22). And I think we'll have the rebounding advantage over Marquette.

Who's comparing Dent to Ja Morant? I've never heard that comparison made. He's by no means an exceptional athlete like Ja. I'd say he's more like old-man Andre Miller.

If the refs let them play, the game's a toss-up. With a tight whistle, Marquette will be impacted more and the Lobos win by 7-12.


LOL.

New Mexico May certainly win but this "analysis" is something else.
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: MU82 on March 20, 2025, 04:40:29 PM
The 7/10 and 8/9 matchups are supposed to be tough. I'd have been surprised if Marquette (or UNM) was a big favorite.

I'm a big-time optimist but I'm also realistic enough to know we could lose the same way we've lost several other games - by shooting poorly and by failing to secure defensive rebounds. But I also think if we shoot decently, take care of the ball the way we usually do and defend the way we can, we're good enough to beat UNM (and many other NCAAT teams).
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on March 20, 2025, 04:47:33 PM
Was looking at some pics from today's practice.  I assume it has something to do with the angle but look at the size of Clark in this picture, even compared to Ben.

(https://www.jsonline.com/gcdn/authoring/authoring-images/2025/03/20/PMJS/82573327007-gan-20250320-szo-om-2-0029.JPG?width=660&height=441&fit=crop&format=pjpg&auto=webp)
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: tower912 on March 20, 2025, 04:48:54 PM
Clark is long.
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: muwarrior69 on March 20, 2025, 05:02:00 PM
Quote from: cheebs09 on March 20, 2025, 02:18:55 PMYeah, I think it's me that started the Ja Morant line of thought. More just that Wojo's strategy was to collapse on him so he wouldn't score, but he killed us with his passing. It sounded like Dent had the potential to do the same.

Obviously he's not as good as Morant, but more along the lines on if he could have a similar impact.

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on March 20, 2025, 04:47:33 PMWas looking at some pics from today's practice.  I assume it has something to do with the angle but look at the size of Clark in this picture, even compared to Ben.

(https://www.jsonline.com/gcdn/authoring/authoring-images/2025/03/20/PMJS/82573327007-gan-20250320-szo-om-2-0029.JPG?width=660&height=441&fit=crop&format=pjpg&auto=webp)

Who is 42 there on the left. He looks almost as tall. Ben looks further back. This picture is very deceiving.
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: Class71 on March 20, 2025, 05:22:58 PM
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on March 20, 2025, 04:47:33 PMWas looking at some pics from today's practice.  I assume it has something to do with the angle but look at the size of Clark in this picture, even compared to Ben.

(https://www.jsonline.com/gcdn/authoring/authoring-images/2025/03/20/PMJS/82573327007-gan-20250320-szo-om-2-0029.JPG?width=660&height=441&fit=crop&format=pjpg&auto=webp)

If you are closer to the camera and the photo is shot from the floor you will appear taller than those further away.
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: Hards Alumni on March 20, 2025, 05:24:27 PM
Quote from: Class71 on March 20, 2025, 05:22:58 PMIf you are closer to the camera and the photo is shot from the floor you will appear taller than those further away.

That's an interesting way to look at it.  Good perspective.

@tower912 I'm on fire today (pun intended), I thought you'd be proud
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: #UnleashSean on March 20, 2025, 05:57:08 PM
Quote from: TucsonLobo on March 20, 2025, 11:49:04 AMMarquette is 26 in Kenpom DRtg. Against the no. 24 defensive team, VCU, Dent had 40.



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that aged like milk.
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: Newsdreams on March 20, 2025, 07:10:17 PM
Quote from: TucsonLobo on March 20, 2025, 11:49:04 AMMarquette is 26 in Kenpom DRtg. Against the no. 24 defensive team, VCU, Dent had 40.

At St. Johns, Dent played better than Kam, with 6 assists to Kam's 1, and only 3 fewer points. Where the Lobos struggled against St. John's most was in rebounding (Nelly had just 4), but still did better than Marquette (-17 to -22). And I think we'll have the rebounding advantage over Marquette.

Who's comparing Dent to Ja Morant? I've never heard that comparison made. He's by no means an exceptional athlete like Ja. I'd say he's more like old-man Andre Miller.

If the refs let them play, the game's a toss-up. With a tight whistle, Marquette will be impacted more and the Lobos win by 7-12.
More important how is your mid range shooting?
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: FairWeatherEagle on March 20, 2025, 07:31:41 PM
All I have to say is "we got this".

Never seen Dent except for clips but I know Kam is better.

sure, if they play a couple standard deviations above who they are, we might lose. But if we do too, they get beat. We are better, we will win.

We win, I'm going to quote this post and "Told you so"

We lose, say whatever you want cause I'll brood for two weeks and not read anything on scoop till November. ;)
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: 1SE on March 21, 2025, 02:17:00 AM
Quote from: Class71 on March 20, 2025, 05:22:58 PMIf you are closer to the camera and the photo is shot from the floor you will appear taller than those further
Quote from: Class71 on March 20, 2025, 05:22:58 PMIf you are closer to the camera and the photo is shot from the floor you will appear taller than those further away.

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Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: MUEng92 on March 21, 2025, 06:46:48 AM
Quote from: Hards Alumni on March 20, 2025, 05:24:27 PMThat's an interesting way to look at it.  Good perspective.
I feel like you have to be over 50 and have offspring to appreciate this comment.  I smashed the like!
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: Shooter McGavin on March 21, 2025, 07:01:52 AM
Quote from: tower912 on March 18, 2025, 03:01:47 PMI would agree with that.   I think Rico is stealthily a genius.  You can't make that many people that mad  by adopting their posting style and using it against them without having some serious gray cells.

I do t know about all that but the stamina is impressive.
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: The Sultan on March 21, 2025, 08:19:45 AM
Quote from: tower912 on March 18, 2025, 03:01:47 PMI would agree with that.   I think Rico is stealthily a genius.  You can't make that many people that mad  by adopting their posting style and using it against them without having some serious gray cells.

As for me, I'm just really smart.
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: tower912 on March 21, 2025, 08:29:07 AM
Quote from: The Sultan on March 21, 2025, 08:19:45 AMAs for me, I'm just really smart.
Yes, you are. 
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: TucsonLobo on March 21, 2025, 09:54:10 AM
Quote from: MU82 on March 20, 2025, 04:14:28 PMGreat. Also ...

Against the no. 61 defensive team, Boise State, on Feb. 19,  Dent had 17 on 4-for-13 shooting, with 4 TOs as his team lost.

Ipso fatso, he's doomed against the #26 defensive team.

BTW, I actually don't believe that. Just showing that maybe it's kinda silly to make the kind of projection you did.


I don't disagree with this. I was just responding to the argument that NM isn't good because we've been playing against "mid majors." I think a lot of the results yesterday once again showed that mid majors have athletes that can go toe to toe with majors (Drake, McNeese, UC San Diego, UNCW).

Thinking that Marquette is head and shoulders better than UNM, and that Dent isn't an All American caliber player (he was an honorable mention) who doesn't compare to Kam is just silly.

I guarantee you Shaka doesn't hold that view. I really expect it to be a close game, with Dent and Kam going back on forth putting on displays that will make great TV if nothing else.
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: Galway Eagle on March 21, 2025, 10:17:49 AM
My hope is Dent gets shut down like Tu Holloway. I'm not overly confident because of the other size matchups but I do think we have the defensive bodies to shut down Dent. Something we didn't have for Ja (was sacar his matchup? I can't recall).

If we lose, a very real possibility, it won't be Dent that beats us it'll be because a bunch of lanky guys turned Jop over a million times, blocked Stevie & Kam's layups, and we aren't hot from outside.
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: TucsonLobo on March 21, 2025, 10:31:48 AM
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 20, 2025, 03:49:34 PMI don't think adjD is where you should be looking.  Check out offensive TO%. Dent murders teams in transition and is average in the halfcourt. MU is elite at protecting the ball, 8th in the country.  Yall havent played a team even close to that.  Your best is your season opener against Nicholls state (48th). Next two are against Nevada (63rd). In 85 minutes against Nevada yall only forced 21 turnovers and barely won both games. 16 of your opponets rank in the bottom third of offensive TO%.
 

St. John's, at #35, was the highest offensive TO% team they played. St. John's had 16 turnovers against NM.

St. John's, at #8 is also the highest ranked defensive TO% both teams have played. NM had 11 against them. Marquette had 14, 17, and 14. New Mexico is #11 in defensive TO%

My point is they're closely matched and it will be an entertaining game.
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: Hards Alumni on March 21, 2025, 10:33:13 AM
Quote from: TucsonLobo on March 21, 2025, 10:31:48 AMSt. John's, at #35, was the highest offensive TO% team they played. St. John's had 16 turnovers against NM.

St. John's, at #8 is also the highest ranked defensive TO% both teams have played. NM had 11 against them. Marquette had 14, 17, and 14. New Mexico is #11 in defensive TO%

My point is they're closely matched and it will be an entertaining game.

I agree, anyone who is overconfident about this game should not be.
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: Scoop Snoop on March 21, 2025, 10:33:50 AM
Quote from: Galway Eagle on March 21, 2025, 10:17:49 AMMy hope is Dent gets shut down like Tu Holloway. I'm not overly confident because of the other size matchups but I do think we have the defensive bodies to shut down Dent. Something we didn't have for Ja (was sacar his matchup? I can't recall).

If we lose, a very real possibility, it won't be Dent that beats us it'll be because a bunch of lanky guys turned Jop over a million times, blocked Stevie & Kam's layups, and we aren't hot from outside.

While it is a bit of an exaggeration, an announcer in Murray State's next game obviously was referring to Marquette when she came up with a zinger. "Notice how (the opponent) is guarding Murray State? They're NOT just collapsing 5 players on Morant." Ouch!

Wojo called a T.O. early in the 2nd half and obviously told the team something like "damn the torpedoes! Full speed ahead." 
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on March 21, 2025, 11:17:21 AM
This one is setting up to be the game of the weekend.

A lot of people picked UNM to win, now they've seen how the Mountain West has performed and are changing tune a bit.

None of it matters. It's gonna be a battle. Gotta show up, or go home!
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: MU82 on March 21, 2025, 11:48:12 AM
Quote from: TucsonLobo on March 21, 2025, 09:54:10 AMI don't disagree with this. I was just responding to the argument that NM isn't good because we've been playing against "mid majors." I think a lot of the results yesterday once again showed that mid majors have athletes that can go toe to toe with majors (Drake, McNeese, UC San Diego, UNCW).

Thinking that Marquette is head and shoulders better than UNM, and that Dent isn't an All American caliber player (he was an honorable mention) who doesn't compare to Kam is just silly.

I guarantee you Shaka doesn't hold that view. I really expect it to be a close game, with Dent and Kam going back on forth putting on displays that will make great TV if nothing else.

That's all fair.

I expect a close game, and I'm not sure who here has said "Marquette is head and shoulders better than UNM," but maybe someone has.
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: Jay Bee on March 21, 2025, 12:27:17 PM
If Josh has really grown to 10'4" as it appears, let's play him tonight. It'll be worth a full year of eligibility
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: barfolomew on March 21, 2025, 12:33:46 PM
MU wins, covers, bangs, shoots, carries aircraft, and is unstoppable from midrange.

Also, Donovan Dent sounds like some DC villain's alter ego.
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: forgetful on March 21, 2025, 12:57:44 PM
Quote from: Class71 on March 20, 2025, 04:06:02 PMSeriously, NM is not a good match-up for us. Their front court is 6'9", 6'9" and 6'10". Their center Nelly Joseph is ranked #9 in the NCAA for defensive rebounding comparable to Tarris Reed at #13.

Donovan Dent at 6'2" is #23 in the nation in assists and shoots 40% from 3.

Tru Washingtion is ranked #35 in stl % and shoots 35% from 3.

Mustapha Amzil at 6'9" is another decent rebounder who shoots too many 3's given his 29% shooting percent.

Filip Borovicanin is their power forward/backup center at 6'9" who is ranked 431 nationally in Defensive Rebounding.

Bench also has size and some shooting skills.

We should win by 3 according to KenPom


Who would you rather have, Kam or Dent. Experts would say Kam.

Who would you rather have, Stevie or Tru. Experts would say Stevie. Stevie is the better defender, and on paper the better 3 pt shooter 36.3% to 35.3% (Tru shoots ~ 1 more 3 per game).

On paper we should win. Game is decided on the floor.

But the claiming this is a bad/good draw doesn't matter. You will have to beat good teams in March, period.
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 21, 2025, 05:00:20 PM
Quote from: TucsonLobo on March 21, 2025, 10:31:48 AMSt. John's, at #35, was the highest offensive TO% team they played. St. John's had 16 turnovers against NM.

St. John's, at #8 is also the highest ranked defensive TO% both teams have played. NM had 11 against them. Marquette had 14, 17, and 14. New Mexico is #11 in defensive TO%

My point is they're closely matched and it will be an entertaining game.

I'm not sure where youre getting your numbers.SJU is currently 61st in offensive TO%, they were 65th when I originally posted.

But I agree with your last sentence
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: AnotherLobo on March 21, 2025, 05:42:54 PM
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 21, 2025, 11:17:21 AMThis one is setting up to be the game of the weekend.

A lot of people picked UNM to win, now they've seen how the Mountain West has performed and are changing tune a bit.

None of it matters. It's gonna be a battle. Gotta show up, or go home!

I'm not sure who's picking UNM but I'm getting the same feeling as last year where a lot of people picked us to beat a struggling Clemson.  They beat us by 21 on their way to the f^&*ing elite 8. I Wouldn't be surprised at all the see you guys take a similar trajectory. 
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: MUEng92 on March 21, 2025, 05:46:32 PM
Quote from: AnotherLobo on March 21, 2025, 05:42:54 PMI'm not sure who's picking UNM but I'm getting the same feeling as last year where a lot of people picked us to beat a struggling Clemson.  They beat us by 21 on their way to the f^&*ing elite 8. I Wouldn't be surprised at all the see you guys take a similar trajectory. 
Oh no you don't, low expectations is our shtick.  We even have an acronym for it...COLE
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: AnotherLobo on March 21, 2025, 05:48:34 PM
Quote from: MUEng92 on March 21, 2025, 05:46:32 PMOh no you don't, low expectations is our shtick.  We even have an acronym for it...COLE

I'm expecting to lose by double digits.  You guys probably make the championship game.
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: MUEng92 on March 21, 2025, 05:49:48 PM
I don't know how you lose by double digits when your point guard is obviously going to outscore our whole team.
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: Newsdreams on March 21, 2025, 05:50:01 PM
Quote from: AnotherLobo on March 21, 2025, 05:42:54 PMI'm not sure who's picking UNM but I'm getting the same feeling as last year where a lot of people picked us to beat a struggling Clemson.  They beat us by 21 on their way to the f^&*ing elite 8. I Wouldn't be surprised at all the see you guys take a similar trajectory. 
I was told angrycowboy is the Willie over there. Guess there could be 2?
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: NickelDimer on March 21, 2025, 05:54:35 PM
Quote from: MUEng92 on March 21, 2025, 05:46:32 PMOh no you don't, low expectations is our shtick.  We even have an acronym for it...COLE
😆😆😆
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: AnotherLobo on March 21, 2025, 05:59:06 PM
Quote from: MUEng92 on March 21, 2025, 05:49:48 PMI don't know how you lose by double digits when your point guard is obviously going to outscore our whole team.
Well sure, he's very good.  For a mid-major pg.  He's never seen a defense like Marquettes. He probably won't score.
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on March 21, 2025, 05:59:29 PM
Quote from: AnotherLobo on March 21, 2025, 05:48:34 PMI'm expecting to lose by double digits.  You guys probably make the championship game.

This dude's trying to jinx us. 
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: tower912 on March 21, 2025, 05:59:48 PM
Quote from: AnotherLobo on March 21, 2025, 05:42:54 PMI'm not sure who's picking UNM but I'm getting the same feeling as last year where a lot of people picked us to beat a struggling Clemson.  They beat us by 21 on their way to the f^&*ing elite 8. I Wouldn't be surprised at all the see you guys take a similar trajectory. 
Using scoop energy against us.  Well played, sir.
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: MU82 on March 21, 2025, 06:18:12 PM
I just hope we can hold Dent under 50. If we only lose by 30, it'll be a moral victory.
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: #UnleashSean on March 21, 2025, 06:22:23 PM
ITS TIME. MAKE THE THREAD!
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on March 21, 2025, 06:34:06 PM
Not good, not good!
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: jfp61 on March 21, 2025, 06:42:59 PM
That 4 minutes of Joplin defense is a form of water boarding
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: Fred Garvin on March 21, 2025, 06:52:31 PM
Wtf
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: TucsonLobo on March 21, 2025, 09:20:23 PM
Quote from: FairWeatherEagle on March 20, 2025, 07:31:41 PMWe win, I'm going to quote this post and "Told you so"



I'm not going to say it. I'm going to be the bigger man here and let you say, "You told me so; I should have listened. Dent deserves the 2nd Team AA selection;  Cam should have been the honorable mention. You were right; I was wrong. You're good looking; I'm not attractive. New Mexico is beautiful, Wisconsin has cheese."

Yes, I'm going to be the bigger man and not say any of that.
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: The Sultan on March 21, 2025, 09:23:31 PM
Quote from: TucsonLobo on March 21, 2025, 09:20:23 PMI'm not going to say it. I'm going to be the bigger man here and let you say, "You told me so; I should have listened. Dent deserves the 2nd Team AA selection;  Cam should have been the honorable mention. You were right; I was wrong. You're good looking; I'm not attractive. New Mexico is beautiful, Wisconsin has cheese."

Yes, I'm going to be the bigger man and not say any of that.

You can leave now. Hope you lose Sunday.
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: Hards Alumni on March 21, 2025, 09:58:48 PM
Quote from: TucsonLobo on March 21, 2025, 09:20:23 PMI'm not going to say it. I'm going to be the bigger man here and let you say, "You told me so; I should have listened. Dent deserves the 2nd Team AA selection;  Cam should have been the honorable mention. You were right; I was wrong. You're good looking; I'm not attractive. New Mexico is beautiful, Wisconsin has cheese."

Yes, I'm going to be the bigger man and not say any of that.

First, it's Kam, and no.  You're wrong there. 

Also, I think your win killed George Foreman, so you've got that on your conscience!

But for real.  You guys should gloat.  Our team played bad ball, and you guys won.

Congrats.  Go win the whole thing.  Despite what some others around here will say, you guys are easy to root for.
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: AnotherLobo on March 21, 2025, 10:17:20 PM
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on March 21, 2025, 05:59:29 PMThis dude's trying to jinx us. 

My work is done here.  Time to visit the Mich St message board.  I mean lets be real, we have no shot against them.
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: MUEng92 on March 21, 2025, 10:18:49 PM
Quote from: AnotherLobo on March 21, 2025, 10:17:20 PMMy work is done here.  Time to visit the Mich St message board.  I mean lets be real, we have no shot against them.
Dammit, it's bad enough your team beat my team, don't go making me laugh this soon
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: AnotherLobo on March 21, 2025, 10:47:59 PM
Quote from: AnotherLobo on March 21, 2025, 10:17:20 PMMy work is done here.  Time to visit the Mich St message board.  I mean lets be real, we have no shot against them.
Scratch that.  I'm going to have to hope for the bad karma of charging for a message board and the cold hard truth that they are soooo much better than a "mid major" team from a state that doesn't sound like they are members of the union. 
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: TucsonLobo on March 21, 2025, 11:18:56 PM
Quote from: AnotherLobo on March 21, 2025, 10:47:59 PMScratch that.  I'm going to have to hope for the bad karma of charging for a message board and the cold hard truth that they are soooo much better than a "mid major" team from a state that doesn't sound like they are members of the union. 

Beautiful
Title: Re: MU/UNM thoughts
Post by: Hards Alumni on March 21, 2025, 11:44:56 PM
don't make me change my mind.
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